Cull Or Be Culled - Zimbabwe

[cptmuska]

makes me sick seeing people kill elephants, but I gues its not as bad as whaling lol

[thescarlzzz529]

1.) Its not an elephant that they hunted. It was a buffalo.

2.) All of the villagers in the local area got meat that they would not have otherwise eaten.

3.) This was in no way a trophy, it was meant for the starving villagers who never get to eat meat unless a hunter comes and pays for the right to catch the animal.

[planetary109]

The one is hunting is a white, rich, doctor. What a surprise...

[MsTiberiius]

You disgusting, vile, loathsome creatures. I have no words on this video aside from wishes that the pain you inflicted on those beautiful, innocent creatures are forced upon you.. and give you no mercy. Disgusting. A 'trophy'? I am appalled.

[CatpurrRobertaBobbi]

IF and its a big if the right elephants are killed (they have family units) I think its a good idea. Money to the locals money for the elephants survival. I even understand letting them take home the ivory. Yet the thought of a wanna be cowboy who cant shoot to kill makes me want to say its not worth it.

[saturnfan]

yes. all 'helpful' reasons aside, its just a bunch of bored rich folks that like to dress up in tight khaki shorts and kill something that barked, moo'd, or threw poo at them when they visited the zoo as children.

[subasurf]

I totally get the concept of hunting game parks, the idea behind the conservation and protection of the animals...I understand that it works and it WILL make a big difference and is a positive thing. I'm all for it.

but to be honest...I can't help despise the rich American fucks that fly to Africa to bag an exotic beast, while having almost no hunting skills of their own. Pathetic rich wankers, with too much money, big ego and suffering through a midlife crisis.

[jedirifleman]

We need to cull liberals from the human population.

[frostyh81]

if you kill an animal, it better be because your life depends on it. Not like, you go hunting and the hunt goes wrong and now it's either you or the animal as the animal chargers you mouth wide open ready to tear you apart and your trying to shoot it to save you life. You put your self in that position, if you weren't there, you life wouldn't be at risk and nither would the animals. But like the native indians of america, they hunted and killed animals. But they used every part of the animal.

[frostyh81]

@frostyh81 they didn't kill 20 buffulo, cut of the heads and leave the bodys to rot on the plains. They killed maybe 10 or so and used every single bone, flesh, skin, all of it. they didn't use it for jewlry or luxury items either, they used it for nessesary items. The wool kept them warm in the winter, the meat they cooked and ate, bones they used for tools to better secure their small homes. Now, hunters shoot an animal, mount the head on a wooden panel and hang it on their walls.

[frostyh81]

@frostyh81 the fur they probably sell so peole can wear it. You can stay warm without using fur. not sure if they eat the meat, but there is plenty of other food today that doesn't involve going into the wild. Villages that aren't with todays world, "under" developed shouldn't be helped to much. Meaning, I think they should just better fortify their farms or whatever first. there is more I want to say, but don't know how to say it at this time. Plus, this is youtube. If i'm this passionaiate. ..

[frostyh81]

@frostyh81 . . . about hunting and stuff i should go research it and see what i can do to help directly the issues with hunting/poaching/and "culling"

[guntotinpatriot]

So sad that liberals seem unable to have a reasonable debate but must resort to name calling and emotional outbursts. The FACT is that where legal, regulated hunting exists, the animals flourish. Where it is banned, the animal populations suffer. Deep down humans are hunters- it's far more natural for us to embrace it than for you to deny it.

[Illusive92]

@guntotinpatriot

Nature would sort it self out. It has for millions of years before human interference. So whatever you say is bullshit.

[jedirifleman]

@Illusive92 Humans ARE nature so whatever WE DO IS NATURE so dont be an illogical asshole.

[fontelonga]

@jedirifleman Whatever we do is nature???? Like what??? Atomic bombs? Chemical warfare??? Polution??? Exterminate species??? That's nature??? You are an ass hole and your brain is full of shit.

[jedirifleman]

@fontelonga Radon is nature and has killed more people than any nuclear bomb. The sun is thermonuclear radiation . . . I cant even fathom the number of peoplekilled by melanoma, heat stroke etc. Venom from snakes and frogs and spiders are chemical warfare. Mammals exhale Co2 pollution. T-rex went extinct before man arrived. YES THAT IS NATURE !!! You are a moron.

[finalx01]

@jedirifleman Amen.

[Bullshitbuster1]

Theres is only one solution; let the earth in peace, and we humans should move to the Moon lol

[GabrielZamoraMoreno]

The only reason why this is done is because of lack of money...

In an equal money system this abuse will be stopped forever

Vote for an equal money system - vote for life

[MuslimApostate]

man fuck those inbreds who don't know dick about wild elephant numbers. Fuck everyone who actually believes this bs. And fuck japan for allowing these bastards to prophit such savage butchery of a great animal.

[RAFAEL8022]

vai da o cu fia da puta

[Axgoodofdunemaul]

Legalized hunting is a good thing, it brings money to support conservation and the local people. But what kind of asshole would would think it was fun to shoot an elephant? Furthermore, hunting removes the best specimens from the population, not the ones that should be eliminated.

[pillowby]

@Axgoodofdunemaul clearly we need to adopt the hunting strategies of wild predators and tease the weak ones out of the herd. not being sarcastic here

[Rico8458]

i hear you dude. lol. imagine i get me a 308 weatherby magnum rifle and i go hunt me some taliban and cut their heads and mount them on my living room wall as trophies. now, that makes me a great white hunter.

[LegendxWind]

"Since the ban on international ivory trade, elephant numbers are outgrowing Zimbabwe's human ones."

Bullshit they grew. The numbers of elephants have been steadily decreasing since that ban was passed because selfish poaching fuckheads decided they would go and hunt them anyway.

[roxbird20]

@LegendxWind Bullshit they didn't grow, the African elephant is no longer on the endangered species list.

[LegendxWind]

@roxbird20 This video was taken over 10 years ago,at a time when they were very critically endangered due to the ivory trade and poachers. They might not be endangered as of this second,but they sure were when this was filmed and the elephant was shot.

[TheRadar77]

It strikes me as racist how liberals disregard African peoples side of the story. Wild beasts cause major damage to their way of life and personal safety. So foreign hunters come in, manage the herds and inject capital into the local economy. It's a great system. The animals are less prone to starvation and predation as well.

[rjv1]

a bored guy goes hunting, he doesnt even do it himself, he has a team to search form him... what is this guy doind, to to the gym, go boxing or use your time and money for the good instead of this...

[Rico8458]

go bag a trophy taliban hunt in afghanistan mate.

[TrinketStarFire]

@Rico8458 HAHAHAHAHA good one :)  that was funny :)

[theatwo]

You can tell the disdain in the narrators voice.

[UltraEpicLoser]

This is how you protect some animals. If someone wants to hunt an elephant that is not endangered, and spend money to do that, and that money going to preserve them, what is wrong with that. One elephant saving many others. That hunter spent more money preserving that environment than probable most people reading this message.

[Assassin049]

He killed a buffalo just for a trophy?

Constantin, look at my nick caefully- its all true. And trust me, you are in MY LIST of TROPHYs now. Mather fucker. I know you fucking name.

[alanbstard4]

I'd like to hunt the woman at the start of the vid. She looks good

[Mukiwa89]

when hunters go to Zimbabwe and spend lots of money on killing an elephant the government sees the elephant as a valuble resource and they work hard o keep them around.

[JackKangaroo1]

Rich American can think of nothing better to spend his money on that to shoot an elephant in a bizarre attempt at augmenting his own ego. Way to go, doc. Maybe while you're over there a lion will rip your head off and stick it on a termite mound as a trophy.

[hidethisnine]

Did any of the whiney Liberal fuck nuts bother to read (READ) the intro to this video? And Read from "cultorste" below. he is from Africa.

[sirvagrant]

Moosh moosh.

Hope the trophy bags you.

[cultorste]

The animals were there first, technically, so for us to say that the animals are encroaching on our land is just plain arrogance. the farmer complaining that hs crops are gettin stomped is, truthfully, a fuckwit. why live somewhere where that would happen? animals dont adapt well unlike us humans, we went there and adapted, it hasnt worked out, so now they should leave or move somewhere nearby where they are protected. A fence usually helps in these situations. The human is smarter, so they say.

[mykonos329]

Please tell me you are not as ignorant as you sound....Have you ever been to Africa? If not, STFU!!

[cultorste]

um yes, i'm south african. i know how this place rolls, and most of the time its down to laziness and stupidity. people wont do what they're told, and when the shit hits the fan they complain.

[libed91]

When a bear arrives to deer's land it doesn't ask who was there first he just does that for what he was born, he kills.

[cultorste]

we're not bears. We have higher intelligence and the ability to see problems before they develop. We are therefore responsible for this problem.

[libed91]

We have higher intelligence?

Not from what i have seen.

[cultorste]

Touche'. We don't use it.

[cultorste]

The fact that people,smart people, can create and devise methods for technology, self benefit, economic growth etc etc etc but not be able to think of a simple fucking plan to keep people and animals from pissin each other off is ridiculous.development seems to be the problem here, the money from hunts goes towards these developments, this is the problem, stop developing, the human population increases after development, this fights the population growth of the animals.and then we have a problem

[GeorgHoch1]

As far as i know, the Elephant population has decreased from 1.5 Million in 1977 to 500.000 today. Too many? it needs just one desease like ''Lion Aids'' and that population is gone over night!

Hunters have tiny willies!

[mcantuaria23]

Zimbabwe's politics, and most of the blacks are corrupted by americans, chineses, european... those fuckers should die in hell...

[bebeinpa]

I think Mugabe and his minions are doing a good job all by themselves, thank you.

[hidethisnine]

Zimbabwe has done a pretty damned good job of controling the poachers. They can easily make a good living for the people by having controled, paid hunts, hosted by certified Professional Hunters just like the rest of Africa. Im hoping for the best for them.

[MegaK2z]

This thing makes complete sense... Too many of one thing can lead to a complete collapse of the ecosystem, shown here by the overly large population of elephants...

Such things are necessary. Too bad many of you guys are too stupid to notice it and spam out useless comments based on your emotions.

[LeoCannoli]

Legalized hunting is a good thing. The cost and fees of licensing cover the cost of preserving, caring, and raising the animals.

Tell a person that keeping an animal alive when it is destroying your crops and livelihood, causing your family to starve simply because "It's the right thing to do is stupid." Telling him that keeping an animal alive can feed his whole community, and he's much more likely to preserve it.

[LeoCannoli]

Profitized Preservation is proven succesful. Just look at the Chicken. It'd be extinct now, if it wasn't able to "pay" it's own way by being so damned tasty.

[Rman235]

@LeoCannoli my fucking ass, i agree that u should be able to kill them if their destroying your land, but if u kill them just for the sport? thats just retarded , fuck those rich faggot in their short shorts

[mvubu1234]

@Rman235 - and who is going to fund the culling? It costs massive money, so either the poor government needs to fund it, or they can sell the privilege to a rich man. That way, they not only save the management costs, but also adds money to the conservation of ALL species.

It is a no brainer if you live in the place

[cptmuska]

shot a pests... they are the smartest animal in the Savannah

[Mako561]

@cptmuska If they were so smart they would know not to infringe on human habitat, that way they would not need to be culled.

[cptmuska]

@Mako561 you sir are an example of a troll. you know that killing these creatures is inhumane no matter what they are doing to peoples crops ect... you cannot say other wise there for you re point and any further points are moot.

[ihaterobbie123]

@cptmuska "you know that killing these creatures is inhumane no matter what they are doing to peoples crops"

No, we don't "know" that. Please can you explain why killing another animal for survival is "inhumane".

People like you, who grew up with no shortage of food, no survival instinct, no dose of reality, can say what you like. The rest of the sane world should, can, and will continue to ignore you.

[Stampeds1lent]

@ihaterobbie123

Put is this way my uncle is a ranger in Swaziland and by law he can shoot dead any poacher on who enters the reserve and has a gun even if they don't fire first, using a loophole though any hunter who enters the reserve by accident can also be shot dead, over the past few years he has shot dead 3 Americans just for crossing a boundary, no warning just shot dead, like you I see no difference and will follow in his steps killing people the legal way.

[krrrruptidsoless]

Eating meat is too friggin easy. Humans don't even know where they came from.

Your the last on the planet that makes you a baby.

Your such men why don't you go to a gay bar for your meat.

There are no men.

The word man means you were born from an animal at full size.

You people have no facts.

Shut-up.

[tokyojoband]

elephants a pest? what the fuck? they r amazing.u should respect them

[ChiIIy]

theres no debate - you either believe we are devine beings made by god in his image, or we are animals.... good debate

[capitansplatermuh]

wonder how much someone would pay for the price on your head? man too is an animal. watch your back mate.

[xcottermcx]

We're actually mammals, not animals

[ChiIIy]

mammals are animals .... idiot

[xcottermcx]

Whether or not humans are considered animals is debatable

[mukewa0zw]

trophy fees only help increase the price/value & legalise the shooting of elephant. Barry & his brother Rob Styles are involved in the so called 'legal hunting' in Zim, add value on their heads! It is Corruption & greed that keeps these people so called 'legal' hunting today in Zimbabwe's corrupt state. This so called Pro Hunters are all part of this corruption today and are just as guilty as the poachers that illegally shoot these elephant!? From a disgusted Zimbabwean Professional Hunter/Guide

[dulllifeinkansas18]

this is sad...I don't agree with hunting at all....If the elephant were to die naturally and not by gunshot for money, it's one thing....but seriously? I wish people thought differently rather than "I'm human, I'm better, the elephant can die no biggy" No one thinks about the human population being WAY out of control, we just keep popping out more babies and do nothing to control it at all...we are all pathetic

[mrsmelzbad]

very typical of little politically correct brain-washed Obamaknot yuppy larvae to comment on things that they know NOTHING about... Stay in your moms base-ment and play on your computer,.. its all YOU know. Oh and MTV... now go have a nice warm cup of shut-the-fuck up.

[KingKoodles]

0:20 Leupold  : )

[0DmR0]

this thread is so annoying, why has aids got anything to do with this video.

[Yattutroll]

Because it takes place in Africa.

Niggaz got AIDS.

[orisala]

why dont you go fuck your mothers ass! may be you have it to cuz your wife love nigger dick

[pimple22]

That trophy hunter needs is balls ringed, and the end of is cock touched with a branding iron, a rich useless twat.

[crock703]

What a douchebag that trophy hunter was...

[ratonhorseman]

the animal rights activists try to make any use whether good or bad unacceptable. the fact is the native populations thrive where good hunting practices are in place and gee guess what so do the animals. they try to combine conservation and profit and it works.the antis try and make hunting seem barbaric and wastefull when in point of fact if it wasn't for hunters our species would not have evolved. the addition of animal proteins made humans stronger and smarter.

[Wattdabney77]

Yes it is a sick culture we live in, where everything is reduced to a monetary value. It sickens me to see animals killed for money, yet I can understand their piont of view. There are too many animals and people while not enough land. Either the animals have to be 'culled' or the people must give up the land. At least the money goes to a good cause in theory. So long as Mugabe's jackals could be kept inline.

[GDR352]

"If the elephant didn't have a value, they would all be shot as pests." So says the safari guide here. What a sick culture it is when the only "value" assigned to an elephant is monetary, without which one of nature's most magnificent creations would be considered a mere "pest." [note: all e-mails from people I don't know are deleted unread]

[Fleefles]

So I take it you'd be okay if your house was infested with cockroaches or mice and just let them live there, or be okay if elephants were stomping all over your property?

[GDR352]

Ooops! I accidentally opoened Fleefles e-mail. Oh well, in answer to your question, I'd be perfectly willing to let elephants stop all over you and your property and I'd rather have them as neighbors than to let you move in next door.  Satisfied?

[stephan00769]

but it is a big thing, so please, calm down, its part of life, just as war is part of life, just except the fact that this is what we do in south africa, dont know what the hell you guys do in the US, thats probably you guys are so white, just infront of the computer and do nothing, wat we do is actauly enjoying nature and being like you too just make assuptions and dont know what you ae talking about

[Fleefles]

Umm.. you can't magically become a black person by going out in the sun. I know you're probably kidding (I hope), but if you're going to insult a whole group of people, even when many of those people agree with you, its best not to do it with a moronic statement.

[0DmR0]

good call mate

[stephan00769]

but there was a reason for it, im not a fan of it either, but it has been stopped. So leave the cultural awareness problems out of this matter, and trust me, not everyone in africa does have Aids like you say,

[stephan00769]

hey hey, wha the hell does Aids have to do with all of this, , IM from south africa, and you shoukd show some respect...........

numbers of elephants has to be monitored, use your brain........yeah culling has been stopped,

[StreetsMcGoo]

Humanity is full of fools.

This is what happens when you let a third world country do the thinking.

Way to suck ass Africa. Good thing AIDS is doing something culling too.  LOL

[mitchman35z]

so u must be one of them or are u a dog so u dont count

[StreetsMcGoo]

Actually...I'm free of AIDS because I live in the US, I'm not promiscuous, I don't do drugs and I've never had a blood transfusion.

I'm smart enough to avoid it lol.

[mitchman35z]

so just because you live in the us (so do i) u dont have aids i dont either but dude have a heart you dont always have a chose

[StreetsMcGoo]

I think plenty of people have a choice about AIDS. People could chose not to fuck everything that moves or if they're determined, to at least fuck with protection. A man in Africa could choose not to be a total moron and could abstain from raping women and children. Drug addicts could choose to not do drugs or at the very least use only clean needles. If I go to the hospital with horrible blood loss I can choose not to get a blood transfusion.

[Fleefles]

Not everyone in Africa has AIDs. I think part of the problem is that they push condoms so much, and teaching absistence is seen as stupid and infringing on people's rights or something, that it makes people think that there is no way they can possibly get AIDs if they use a condom.

I'm sure if AIDs wasn't transmitted sexually, they'd be stricter on controlling it, but they're afraid to be seen as "pushing their morals" on people by pushing absitence/monogamy more than condoms.

[crock703]

Um, I think its because parts of Africa are a miserable place to live, where sex is one of a few fleeting 'pleasurable' distractions.

Some African leaders and religious officials still advocate shamanic pseudoscience cures (like sex with a virgin), or promote nonsense, like HIV can being deterrable with an after-sex shower.

Foreign crop subsidies also make farming in Africa not very lucrative, so men travel far from their families to earn money -- where prostitution flourishes.

[StreetsMcGoo]

The only people in this world who get AIDS accidentally are the children who are born with it or those who have been sexually assaulted.

And it has nothing to do with the fact that I live in the US other than the fact that the US is thousands of miles away from the AIDS epidemic and therefore I have a lower chance to get it.

[sutra00]

why do people have this sickly malformed idea that they must control the population of animals by killing?Animals have lived on this planet for hundreds of millions of years just fine without being controlled by people. Today,species of animals,plants and fish are becoming extinct every day. There are enough resources on this planet yet people do not live in harmony with nature,they pollute,produce garbage and kill. As long as they can not create life from inert materials they should not kill it

[sutra00]

if these people were to use their brains and live in harmony with nature, they would not even consider killing the most majestic of all land creatures, the elephant, instead, they would see that there is a problem, that there is a desert and drought, and would design and build an irrigation system, maybe using solar energy to desalinize seawater and water this desert, then there would be more than enough food for the people and the animals. That is what living in harmony with nature means.

[Creazat]

HIPPIE!

[podgeris]

so have you ever seen an area overpopulated by elephants ,dust bowl comes to mind they have to kill a few to preserve the land for the rest it makes sense in the long run yes its terrible but this is necessary

[CAMSHAFT777]

you need the gay tree huggers to say no and you need the gunnies to say yes... this creates an equalibrium where people will not overkill but in fact manage the culling and reap the benifits... I am a shooter and I also love the outdoors and the animals in it... I dont care about what hippies think, nor do i care about what dumb ass uneducated cowboys think...

[fusionstar916]

5:47 Sterotype..

awesome

[adithya13]

what kind of devil would kill an innocent animal. I know this is cleshe, but honestly sit there and think about how much pain u must be causing to that animal, and all for what, a "tropy"? what kind of person thinks that a dead animal that u murdered is something to be proud about?

[RUACHMAN]

Did you watch the movie. The elephants will soon be extinct due to habibat destruction! Not only the elephant but EVERY OTHER SPECIES TOO! You bleeding heart LIBERALS are IDIOTS TO THE REAL WORLD! Animals can't keep their numbers down by their selves. The only alternative is to kill or move ALL the PEOPLE OUT OF AFRICA! IDIOST. DO you think that chicken or beef at the store comes from a factory. Next burger give thanks to a man who killed it, cleaned it & shipped it to...YOU!

[walters222]

How have animals survived then without human 'control' for the millions of years that humans werent around? bad argument

[chavspotter]

What nonsense this video is. Because of Robert Mugawbes' insane policies wildlife is being slaughtered on a huge scale in Zimbabwe. Mugawbe has ruined this country.

[joshsaun]

The elephants need to be controlled. Hunters are part of the solution wether you want to accept that or not.

[adithya13]

Yea u would know wouldnt u? U probably buy ivory

[Boxofscorpions]

and the money from this ivory can be pumped back into the community to help the people who live in close contact with these beasts and see no benefit for the animal. Also money is used from the ivory to better the conservation schemes in the country. Hunting is not a bad thing when the hunter understands the animal he hunts and respects it, hunts it only when it is in abundance; and uses the meat,fur or ivory, so that there is no waste.

[Boxofscorpions]

It is easy for us in the first world to condem the killing of these beasts. We have already plundered our forests and killed or wild animals for our benefit. Our countries would not be so great if we had not. So now we can sit back and condem thrid world countries for trying to use a valuble resource. The fact is the elephant if in too great a number can cause damage to the african ecosystems, so culling is sometimes neccessary. And the meat and ivory from such animals is not wasted but is used

[ENGLEZ1234]

cvfa cowards are people like you who are capable only for buying killed animals in the shop. People like you are joke and nothing better than greedy killers. Hunters are much more than that in positive sense!

[ENGLEZ1234]

Hunters are the most natural people.I don't mean rich sadists but hunters who respect their prey as I do.

Money is good in that bussines and everyone has a benefit from it. Also real hunter tryes to preserve animals too.

[cvfa]

Hunters are the most natural people - ? That's a JOKE !

[fusionstar916]

Hunting is the first real skill humans learned, So yes.. it is natural. Hunters DO MORE to preserve wildlife than any other group of people INCLUDING anti hunting people. Without conservation, animals will over populate, starve. Species will go extinct, and the only thing you can do is selectively cull the overpopulated.

[adithya13]

shut up will u? U probably think u are so smart trying to justify culling dont you. I wouldnt be surprised if u were a hunter, so naturally killing to isnt a sin.

[walters222]

Is that not the natural circle of life?!? the ecosystems have thier on ways of controlling themselves people who think culling is necessary are either very dumb or just plain ignorant.

[Davobeff]

no one ever seems to take into acount the people who have to live the damages that elaphants do.

[cvfa]

I would say who was there first ! The only PEST in this world is the human animal !

All I see here is rich and greedy killers - cowards - and excuse me THE VALUE HERE IS LIFE - NOT DEATH !

[fusionstar916]

then shoot yourself if humans are pest and help the world.

[CodeGeronimo]

When are we going to see humankind as a pest.

[icemaiden06]

hunters think they have courage killing animals but there actually cowards.

[0DmR0]

fuck off, u eat meat? u have no concept of the circle of life stop ignoring your primordial instinct its basic nature of any species today sorry mate but humans are expeditor's we hunt animals. hunt or be hunted. your so washed down with this politically correct nonsense. oh but its an animal it has feelings well yes thats true but it pays not to get on a need to know basis with your food

[fishmarc]

Just another sick ass trophy hunter with a little dick. The elephants are being exterminated. 100 years ago there were 10 million, now there are under 165,000 in Africa.  Its human population that has grown and they have driven the elephants literally crazy. Why don't humans control their urge to replecate in litters and leave the wilderness to the animals?

[Daringa]

why is their no subtitles or voice over for Maines interview