END OF GROWTH: RICHARD HEINBERG on the KEISER REPORT (15. March - Episode 129)

[simonsrd100]

I have heard that there is only enough nuclear matter to power nuclear stations for the next twenty years then that power source is gone .

[hyhhy]

@simonsrd100 That's a myth.

[235RB]

@simonsrd100 That is somewhat true, Nuclear energy is not as great as people believe.

[PoetMarinerRay]

@tigerone1970, "You would need a whole new energy infrastructure, requiring vast amounts of resources, many of which are already severely depleted, and of course immense amounts of energy from fossil fuels" Not necessarily. Use the older ,traditional infrastructure like the national passenger railway system , re-emphasize the old "victory garden " and recycling networks we devised during WWII at home to overcome basic needs shortages because of mandatory rationing of oil, gas, rubber, etc

[klondike444]

@tigerone1970 "We switch to renewable energies."

You would need a whole new energy infrastructure, requiring vast amounts of resources, many of which are already severely depleted, and of course immense amounts of energy from fossil fuels -- which you won't have. Add in population growth, a broken economy and climate change, and that "switch" is not going to happen.

The change you are talking about should have commenced 30 or 40 years ago. It didn't, and now it's too late. Sorry.

[toeg1]

Where's Stacey?

I can't find the full episode.

[tigerone1970]

Malthus was wrong because he never took into account the effect of technology on food production.

FilterFeeder,

" Malthus was only? wrong because he didn't? predict the explosion of fossil fuels "

Fossile fuels were never intended to fuel cars - it was believed that vegetable oils and hemp would power the combustion engine - which is what Malthus didn't take into account. He never saw the combine harvester coming, so to speak.

[wix99]

@tigerone1970 And what happens when the fossil fuels start to run out?

[tigerone1970]

@wix99,

" @tigerone1970 And what happens when? the fossil? fuels start to run out? "

Two things will happen: 1) We switch to renewable energies - solar, thermal, biofuel. 2) We become more efficient. Right now the cod or herring on your plate is more of a world traveler than most people are. Herring is caught by the Russians, filleted by the Chinese, and sold to the Dutch.

[tigerone1970]

(Continued...) All that transportation is done by sea shipping and air freight. Most buildings can be energy selfsufficient. Most freight can be avoided through local production resulting in slightly higher prices, but also higher incomes and switching to locally produced goods. Right now, even fuel is shipped in from halfway around the world.

[benandreas369]

@tigerone1970 Geothermal energy.

[tigerone1970]

@benandreas369

" Geothermal energy. "

There already is a Dutch greenhouse that generates more energy than it uses - including through geothermal energy storage. (Google: greenhouse geothermal; or google: "dutch greenhouse" geothermal)

[whiskerchild]

Excellent.

[FilterFeeder]

Malthus was only wrong because he didn't predict the explosion of fossil fuels - Nice observation

[valhala56]

Go to an All you can eat Asian Buffet now. For $7.99 all you can eat. An unlimited Buffet of food at cheap prices the result of Cheap Oil. This is going to be a thing of the past soon. Enjoy now.