Guam's Hispanic Dances (4) Spanish "Paloteos" dance...Chamorro Style

[tytania3545]

Yo estoy en SHOCK, que poco sabemos en Puerto Rico de los chamorros y tenemos tanto en comun, que pena!!! Definitivamente voy a estudiarlo mas.

[kuraku3]

@tytania3545 tenemos mucho en comun. los puertoriqueños y los chamorros son hermanos por historia y herencia latina. lo que paso es que los norteamericanos impusieron (por fuerza) su influencia para borrar toda la identidad latina de la gente. tristamente, con algo de exito.

[tytania3545]

@kuraku Que pena realmente, pero tambien depende de ustedes defender su identidad y cultura. Al igual que ustedes nosotros fuimos botin de guerra para los americanos y si han habido algunas discordias,y nos hemos "americanizado" hasta cierto punto, pero si te fijas se ha hecho IMPOSIBLE tocar nuestra cultura. Ustedes necesitan un "renacimiento". He visto mas cosas de la cultura chamorra desde que hice el conmentario anterior. Yo les voy a ustedes, traigan mas a la luz a los chamorros!!!

[03Terrestre]

Sí, defenitivamente Guam es parte del mundo hispano, compartimos similitudes áunque cada region del mundo hispano tiene sus propias aportaciones autóctonas que le agregan a la cultura compartida.

[kuraku3]

@03Terrestre gracias por su comentario. por la influencia 'gringa' la herencia hispana/latina del pueblo Chamorro casi ha sido olvidado. espero que algun dia el mundo latino vaya a reconocer sus hermanos olvidados, los Chamorro de Guam y las islas Marianas.

[03Terrestre]

@kuraku3 , eres chamorro? Si así es,sabes, ustedes son parte de nosotros y nosotros parte de ustedes. Se ve y se siente con el hecho de reconcer nuestros enlaces historicos. Recuerda que ustedes forman parte de la gran familia hispana de arededór del mundo. Me da gusto y orgullo que ustedes sean de los nuestros. Saludos a la isla bonita, Guam!!!

[kuraku3]

@03Terrestre sí, soy Chamorro. yo vivo en la ciudad de mexico. ya llevo casi un año viviendo aqui en el df. durante mi estancia aqui, ya he aprendido mucho de mis raices hispanos/latinos. es triste que los Chamorro de hoy no saben de su herencia latina. yo tambien estaba perdido en la busqueda de mi herencia e identidad. me siento como en casa aqui en mexico. por las similitudes; forma de pensar, forma de ser, comidas, costumbres, religion, etc. soy orgullo decir que soy latino. BIBA CHAMORRO.

[ulisescaable]

@kuraku3 Muy bueno, hay que trabajar para recuperar a todo el mundo Hispano, Saludos desde Argentina. Un pregunta en Chamorro existen trabajos sobre la historia local?

[kuraku3]

@ulisescaable Saludos. Creo que no existen trabajos en Chamorro sobre la historia de Guam. De hecho, la gente Chamorra no sabe mucho de su historia/herencia latina. El sistema de la educacion "American" no nos enseña mucho de esa historia. Los Chamorros han estado perdidos en su busqueda por su identidad. Para mucha gente es dificil describir su cultura. Aunque mucha de la cultura es profudamente latina, no es reconicida asi por la gente. La cultura Chamorra es una cultura LATINA-OCEANICA.

[ulisescaable]

@kuraku3 Que pena que no existan trabajos sobre la historia cultural local!! bueno espero que algún día puedan revindicar todo su andamiaje cultural en Chamorro!! Abrazos desde Argentina

[kuraku3]

@ulisescaable La mayoria de la gente que nacio apartir de los años 1960s no hablan Chamorro. De hecho, muchos Chamorros fueron castigados en escuela por hablar Chamorro. Eso fue una parte del plan para americanizar a la gente. Es muy triste ahora porque las nuevas generaciones no hablan nada de Chamorro. Ni saben de su herencia Chamorra-Latina. Toda la educacion es en ingles. Yo vivo en la Ciudad de Mexico y ahora me siento muy re-conectado con mi herencia latina.

[kuraku3]

@03Terrestre ya he conocido a historeadores y profesores (de cultura latina) aqui en mexico. y todos estan de acuerdo que los Chamorro de Las Islas Marianas son los "latinos olvidados". me dijeron asi. 

[03Terrestre]

@kuraku3 Sí, los Chamorro son los "latinos olvidados," pero ya los estamos recordando y con eso habrá mas oportunidades de renovados intercambios culturales. Inclusive, hay una renovada importancia en el crecimiento de los hispanos en el mundo y ahora tambien recordaré que parte de ese crecimiento es de los Chamorro! BIBA CHAMORRO!, VIVA LOS CHAMORRO, VIVA LAS ISLAS MARIANAS Y VIVA GUAM!

[gn552]

hi, what's the name of this nice music? ?

[jacrews9]

I read on someone's post about our dances being similiar to Chiapas of Mexico. I totally agree. I tried studying a lot of the latin American dances and the movements were very similiar to Chiapas. i wonder what is the history behind that?

[islanchamoru]

@jacrews9 to understan about our CHamorro hispanic dances it is a MUST to study the latin american dances. we refer to our SPANISH heritage, but we are actually referring to NEW SPAIN. Or what is now MEXICO ,(not SPAIN in europe.) That is why our dances look more MEXICAN than SPANISH. nearly all of our HISPANIC heritage comes from MEXICO. The spanish galleons departed from Acapulco which is located in southern mexico. Mexian slaves, laborers, and sailors arrived from that area. Chiapas too.

[kuraku3]

@jacrews9 Southern mexican states including Guerrero, Oaxaca, and Chiapas are the areas that most likely our mexican ancestors (yes, chamorros have some mexican ancestors too) arrived from aboard the spanish ships that departed acapulco. many sailors fathered mixed Chamorro/mexican children. And introduced their foods, customs, and dances also. I hope that one day a CHAMORRO dance group will come to mexico and perform. They would be well recieved.

[jacrews9]

@kuraku3 so do u think its possible for chamorros to have native mexican ancestry to as well, for ie, Aztec and Mayan, or do u think its mosty spaniard blood. and I mean the spaniards who stopped in the those mexican states and then came to guam after that.

[kuraku3]

@jacrews9 Most likely the mexican ancestry would have been Zapotec or Mixtec. The indigenous peoples of the regions closest to Acapulco. Some of their language even arrived in Guam. NANA (mother or grandmother) and TATA (father or grandfather) are native words from the NAHUATL language of Mexico. This was the language of the Aztecs and was widely spoken even amongst other groups.

[Just4Kixs]

I consider Chamorros and Filipinos to be all Hispanics. It's so obvious, even compared to our Hispanic American, Hispanic African, and Spanish brothers.

[kuraku3]

@Just4Kixs Scholars in the universities in latin america also share the same sentiments. HISPANIC is NOT a race. It is a way of being, way of thinking. Taking into consideration the [Spanish] language, which is evident in both Filipino and Chamorro languages, catholic religion, customs, colonial history, among other factors. Filipinos can be considered the Hispanics of Asia. And Chamorros the Hispanics of Oceania.

[Just4Kixs]

@kuraku3

FINALLY I've found someone who knows their shit!

Hispanic [def]: an ethnic culture, NOT a race; therefore, people of many races and colors can be Hispanic. YAY!

Filipinos and East Timorans are what constitutes Latin Asia. Mexico, Cuba, Argentina, Peru, etc... are what constitutes Latin America. Equatorial Guinea, Angola, etc... are what constitutes Latin Africa. Guam, Islas Marianas, and Islas Carolinas are what constitutes Latin Oceania. Must I need to go on? Haha

[Chichiri520]

Interesting how a mix of cultures miles away come together to create a lovely fusion of styles as Spanish culture left its thumb prints on the island's culture.

[vancey1112]

Isnt it "Palito" ?

[kuraku3]

Paloteos refers to the dancers. Palitos refers to the sticks. A paloteo uses palitos when he dances.

[sixtyonehitten]

that dance is similar to the Mexican machete dance instead of stick the use machetes

[rajahadob0]

there's a dance similar to this in the philippines, but it was made as a way of disguising basic stick fighting movements in the form of dance, since native martial arts were banned by the spanish

[kuraku3]

Guam and Philippines share very similar Hispanic colonial histories. And it is evident when you watch Filipino and Chamorro dances and see the Hispanic influences. The Filipino sakuting dances tell the story of the conflicts between Christian and non-Christians. It too can be described as a Hispanic influenced dance, since Christianity was first introduced by the Spanish. Chamorro and Filipino Hispanic dances evolved from many of the same influences. Yet each maintaining its own uniqueness.

[John081590]

@kuraku3 I definitely agree. I was watching a few of the Chamorro dances and I see a lot of similarity in the dances, (even a bit on some of the traditional clothing) but still maintains a character that is distinct from each other.

[guamborn]

i looked at some of the links for the spanish paloteos dances. i was very surprised to see the spanish stick dances. i alway thought that the sticks were the native Chamorro element of this dance. i think we have given the dance a Chamorro flavor. and we can still be proud to call them Chamorro dances. our mixed native and hipanic heritage is evident in this performance. i hope to see more of these dances in youtube. i think they are more representative of Chamorro culture than some others.

[ahot0000]

En España este tipo de danzas se llaman paloteos.

In Spain this dances are called "paloteos".

[islanchamoru]

WOW! I always wanted to know the origins of our stick dance. Guam has been influenced by the outside world for 500 years. Nice to know that our small island can be connected to so many other places because of our dances.

[ahot0000]

También podéis buscar en otros idiomas de España: "Dantza palos" en vasco y "ball de bastons" en catalán o valenciano.

You can look for "dantza palos" or "ball de bastons" in other spanish lenguages too.

Un saludo.

[mistake12345678]

haha im from Guam

im chamorro and its awesome here

<3 it

[jjgnbf]

Soy español y de verdad a mi no me parecen bailes de origen español,si veo un origen español en los instrumentos musicales como las guitarras por ejemplo.

Parece una danza de guerra y si hay danzas de guerra aqui donde vivo en el norte de España de origen celta,se hacen con palos grandes o espadas.

De todas maneras es un espectaculo muy bonito, un saludo a Guam.

[kuraku3]

gracias por su comentario. de verdad, yo no se exactamente de donde los origenes. pero yo se que esta danza es un resultado de muchas influencias que se llegaron en la epoca española. por eso se llaman en idioma Chamorro... "bailan españot"

[jacrews9]

I tried researching stick dances and the majority of it came from Asia and the Pacific Islands. I could not find anything on hispanic culture, but I did find something on Puerto Rico. There is a cultural dance that came from the mountains of Puerto Rico that uses sticks and looks close to this. So can someone explain the history of the chamorro stick dance.

[kuraku3]

check out some of the dances i have linked in my description. although it is only speculation on my part, i think it would be fair to speculate that spanish/mexican sailors arriving in guam may have influenced the stick dance. or perhaps the stick dances of the pacific and asia may have influenced the mexican machete dance. dance can be used as a bridge to connect us with those we share much in common heritage with. both our island neighbors & our colonial brothers and sisters elsewhere.

[L00KER68]

The stick dances or 'bailan palitos' is hispanic in origin. Look up the links that are posted in the description to this video and you will see the Spanish Paloteos dances.

[marielyman23]

Does anyone know what the name of the song they are playing called?

[zohar5150]

YUCATECO

[zohar5150]

MY ADOBO,MY ESCRIMA,,,!!!!!!

[j5bata]

I wud also like 2 ad d clothing worn by the girls, they look very familar to the Christian Philippine female clothing we call "Baro't Saya" or at least a variation of the aforementioned. each variation of the dress here in the Philippines represents da livelihood dat women r in: nobles,farmers,etc. we also hav a sort of Philippine version of that dance, insted of stix, men wer coconut parts on impt joints of the body and hit it with a coconut for every beat. :)"Maglalatik" is d name of d dance

[kuraku3]

Guam and Philippines have many parallels in their histories with Spain. So there are many things in common that we share. Some fashions were introduced here from the Philippines as well as Mexico. Each former Spanish colony had it's own unique Hispanic culture by blending native with Spanish. It is our Hispanic history and culture that connects Guam with the rest of the Hispanic world. Both the Philippines' and Guam's Hispanic culture still thrives despite the absence of the Spanish language.

[cham0rro]

Because of the Acapulco-Manila Galleons, most Hispanic influence on Guam and the Philippines arrived from Mexico. The Hispanic cultures of Guam and the Philippines resembles most closely to that of Mexico than any other former Spanish colonial country. Since all the Galleons stopped on Guam first, the Chamorros were exposed to the influences before they arrived in the Phillippines. Another link that connects Guam to the P.I. and to Mexico.

[j5bata]

i think that regardless of who first got exposure to hispanic culture, both the cultures of Guam and the Philippines were greatly "hispanized" in all cultural aspects, in language, religion, dances, and customs.

[cham0rro]

True. I am just suggesting that maybe there may have been some Hispanic influence that arrived in Philippines with a small hint of Chamorro in it.

[j5bata]

when you mentioned "machete", is it pronounced as "Ma-Che-Te" and not "Ma-Cheat"? Hehehe

-From a cultural geek in the Philippines :)

[kuraku3]

It is pronounced how it is spelled. MA CHE TE.

[cham0rro]

Great performance by our local kids. I watched the Mexican machete dance that you indicated in your description, and I can see similarities. I encourage everyone to check out videos of the Mexican machete dances too. Nice to be connected to the Hispanic world through our dances, even though we never became a fully Spanish speaking island. Groups like this one help keep our Hispanic heritage alive. Biba Chamoru! Viva Chamorro!

[DallasStarsSing]

Very Excellent! It looks like great fun to do and very nice to watch.

(Please watch: Guam for Hillary go go go!)

[Jpablo671]

Wow what a great Video

[carolynn2k10]

oh shxt? wow, i thought the stick dance was originated from the cook islands.

[gadao01]

Yeah nai, all sticks come from the Cook islands (too bad you can't see my scowl)... ai adai... where you find sticks, you'll probably find a stick dance.

[psaluda]

Amazing, great folklore once again fusing all elements into one. The beauty of mestizaje: Blending native and Hispanic. Congratulations again!