Please watch my story"TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE". I have documents to prove my innocence yet no one wants to even acknowledge it. My life has been destroyed.
Look up PRISON STOCKS....very lucrative....WHO ARE THE INVESTORS???
I HOPE NOT THE JUDGES AND POLITICIANS.....
Please help me get my story out there. BTW IF THESE JUDGES NEVER GOT BUSTED IT WOULD HAVE CONTINUED.......UNTIL WHEN, THEY RETIRED.
How did this get exposed? Who was the one that noticed? There is so much more to uncover
oh, i posted it on my BoudicaSlade channel and on RisePatriot but u can see the whole casefile via 3w dot osunrise dot com (stands for Operation Sunrise..put the 3w.. in the URL, not google). Solution to problem MUST start with those on the BOTTOM who daily must carry this crap out. They are easily made to Fear by simply exposing their LOCAL activities to whoever their competition is. Simple really.
Look at what wellz fargo did to ME as employee for reporting major fraud to FBI. I obtained the forensics from City of Eugene. You can hear the cops declaring me a crazy jew and then you can hear them pissing in toilet. You can hear the fake 911 call.... I obtained the entire forensic trail because.... i am a crazy jew. it is FAR worse than you ever imagined because the LOCAL POLICE everywhere do the same daily. And..nothing happens to them. It just drops from the news.
Anyone who stood by and allowed this to happen should be behind bars including every single individual who complied with or works for this disgusting slave trade racket.
Wow. So why is this a civil suit? After closing the facilities and moving the prisoners out, the people who paid the bribes should be locked in the same buildings as their former "guests".
Hang them on live tv for the world to see then take everything they own and give it to the victims. Let these judges wives and children sleep naked in a cardboard box. Only a punishment of that magnitude will deter these arrogant bastards called judges.
They want kids they can get before they have kids...and keep them from procreating. It's racism as we are all mixed, and they are all cult members (pure blood masons, illuminatti). Why should their kids be treated soooo different than ours?
We have psychopaths ruling our communities. It's not about money. They don't have feelings empathy or conscience. Their heart doesn't jump when they are suddenly screamed at by infuriating mum, no emotions = no physical feedback to emotions of others either. They are not humans, they are psychopaths. Read Sociopath next door from Martha Stout to understand who psychopaths are and watch Thomas Sheridan's channel. Their only aim is to win and dominate. Without remorse or guilt. Or cure..
you know this is going on on a wider scale too.. it cant be limited to just these aholes.. its like finding one roach in the house; you know theres more....theres so much money to be made in private because of labor...cheap as hell labor....it gives too much motivation and incentive for judges and law enforcement to lock people up.....privatizing prisons as with many public services breeds corruption you see it here...next they will privatize law enforcement itself and were all screwed
@MaggogZ They sent them to private prisons for months, in some cases, for things that they shouldn't have been sent to prison for.
Also the judges were PAID to send them to a specific prison. Do you not realize what that means? It means that justice wasn't the issue in their trials, the judges had a benefit to send these kids to prisons for things that they otherwise would have just gotten a few months of community service or something.
I wish more people would see this. The US would be a better place if this level of corruption was revealed to more than 12,471 people, and more than 147 people actually had something to say about it
I'm starting to look at the info on the site, and the PDF info that is downloadable from there. Right away I saw a visitation policy that says there are weekend visitors. I was allowed two (2) visits a year. This was done on "parent's weekend". If you were being disciplined at that point, they continued to revoke your privileges during your parents' visit. No friends, only immediate family. My brother came once. That was all the contact I had with the world in 18 months.
I can't post the link because it come up as an error, but just do a google search for "george junior republic" in quotes, then click Our Story from the top
). I committed no crime, I was deemed "incorrigible" by a juvenile court on Long Island, and given the status "PINS" (person in need of supervision) and that was all they needed to put me away. They dragged me away from my friends, my school, my home. They worked me like a slave.
Amy Goodman = S.C.U.M. Sociopathic Criminals Under Moloch. Nothin' soapboxy about it. There are many vids showing people asking her about her non-stance on 9/11. Why won't she come out for the truth? What, and who, is she hiding? Did they say her job was at stake? Anyone who allows themselves to be blackmailed/bribed by the NWO *is* the NWO.
DO NOT EVER CONTRACT WITH the court system. There is no common law in the court house any more. Look at your driver's license, birth certificate, etc......your name is in capital letters. They created entities with our names so they have jurisdiction over our bodies. RECLAIM OUR SOVEREIGNITY.....for ourselves and for everybody.
DO NOT EVER CONTRACT WITH the court system. There is no common law in the court house any more. Look at your driver's license, birth certificate, etc......your name is in capital letters. They created entities with our names so they have jurisdiction over our bodies. RECLAIM OUR SOVEREIGNITY.....for ourselves and for everybody.
I blame my mother of alot of this just because as a mother it's your duty to know what going on with your Childs life and at that time she was going threw a bad divorce and she didn't want the state too send her 2nd child off to her father.
I lost my childhood life because of this program! I was never in trouble with the law! They keeled on telling my mother a hole bunch of BS to keep me in this crazy place to get my fathers insurance money!
I was also a victiam of this at the age of 12 when I was put in a program named Straight! They use me to get money from my fathers insurance company. I wad there for 5 years of my life, I'm 36 years old now and I will never forget this experience that I went threw.
@judgewest2000 well its dirty no doubt.... but if they were there, they had done something to face prison time. it's not really a travesty.. just immoral behavior on behalf of judge. find something to plug up that bleeding heart of yours
@judgewest2000 This has nothing to do with capitalism. People in positions of power committed crimes; that's all. These activities were against the law. The tenets of capitalism and privatization do not include breaking the law.
I'm afraid disagree with you. I am fully aware of the benefits of capitalism for modern society, although the last couple of years puts that view under scrutiny.
You are not allowed to break the law, true, but without a specific trail of events would this judge have been in a position to become a beneficiary from the terrible actions he made?
The trail being the privatisation of these programmes and the financial incentives of filling places.
@judgewest2000 Organized crime organizations routinely bribe judges to rule in their favor and oft for the result of financial gain. Examples of such bribery would be a bribe to acquit mob members so they can stay on the streets and continue to make money for the mob by stealing, selling drugs, etc.
Capitalism is not required for a briber to experience financial gain. For generations, non-capitalist dictators held "kangaroo courts" to confiscate wealth from private citizens in their courts.
@billymuscles Those kangaroo courts for dictators are not about money per say but about a grab for power where money is required, not the same. Money is not the ultimate goal, simply an aid to power.
Capitalism / free market, call it what you will was the ultimate cause of the banking crash in 2008 owing to feeding people's greed. Whatever the 'tenets' of capitalism are, it doesn't stop the perversion of making rules to favor greed over morals.
@judgewest2000 The sub-prime housing market was anything but a "free market" because the government guaranteed payment to the banks on the sub-prime loans. The goal of this government policy was to give lower income people the opportunity to buy homes and it didn't go as planned. America doesn't have "real" capitalism either.
@billymuscles The tenets of capitalism are amoral. Violations of the law are just another cost/benefit factor to be weighed before making a business decision. I worked in the medical industry when our sales force estimated we'd make a quick $250k profit and gain market share if we made an unsupportable claim about a new product. The only question our legal team was asked was how much we could be fined if we got caught. The answer: $5k-10k. Guess what decision was made?
OK, folks. What MORE Evidence do U need to understand what many of People of Color have been "implying" about our Court system for DECADES now ?
THIS is an ATROCITY ! This is the result of the deterioration of our juvenile court systems, our public AND PRIVATE school systems, and other related institutions, across the Country.
Money drives GREED. GREED "fuels" Corruption. And Corruption fuels the Passion for MORE Money.
I've heard of this happening. About what we should all expect when we allow for-profit privatization to do the job government HAD and SHOULD be doing.
@captfoster1 I think that government is as equally capable of corruption as private enterprise, since both government and private enterprise are operated by people and since most people are all motivated by self-interest and easily swayed by greed.
I think that the problem here is not the private prison but the corrupt judge. Judicial bribery only requires a corrupt judge and not a private enterprise.
For generations, non-capitalist dictators confiscated wealth from private citizens in courts.
@1983Bantam Fuck the state indeed. Without the corrupting influence of the monopoly of violence (Government), these private business would not be subsidized, and would rise or fall on their merits dictated by the free interaction of individuals, rather than the artificial success created by the use of force and institutionalized violence and their unholy alliance with said evil...
@indefiance24 Without the government, there would be no prisons, no police officers, no courts, no trials. As nature abhors a vacuum, you'd soon have men carving out kingdoms and inventing their own laws and handing down their judgements on the people that living within the borders that they have conquered. Most of our population can't exist without a system that defines their role and gives them a predictable life. Humans have evolved to become too domesticated by civilization.
@Weaseldog2001 Wrong on all counts. We would have all these things, but it would be done through volunteerism, not force or an artificial monopoly. In our current system in a dispute between the government and its tax slaves (citizens), the final arbiter IS THE GOVERNMENT. Of course that means it will always settle disputes in its own favor, guaranteeing the growth of tyranny over time.
@indefiance24 There are human beings that are capable of living in the system you describe. But I would argue that they are a small fraction of the population. You can look to 'The Diggers' for a historical example, that I think fits your theory.
@indefiance24 Most people want to be told how to live their lives, and enjoy the fantastical stories of freedom. They want to be told they are free. And they believe what people in authority tell them. This is the majority of people. And those that are natural predators such as sociopaths and narcissists will step and rule them. If you stand up to them, those self appointed chiefs will have you killed or put in jail, by their serfs, who are happy to have a life with order.
@indefiance24 We have the system we have, not because it's unnatural, but because the individual actions of billions of human beings, statistically move to the mean. This is normal for humans. This system is natural. If you want to change the system, you must change the DNA of humans and make them a different species. and as you do so, you must counter the natural selection forces driving domestication.
this has to be one of the most senseless comments I've ever come across...Collusion with force, institutionalized violence in no way accurately represent "freedom" and therefore your comment amounts to a complete lack of understanding the nature of freedom, Market, Or Capitalism. Your certifiably wrong on all counts. Corporatism isn't capitalism, freedom isn't violence. You have upended the meanings of these words and called it wisdom...
@indefiance24 But seriously, in Free Market Capitalism in the purest sense, there are no laws or regulations. Corporations could legally buy and sell human beings, because nothing they could do would be illegal, so long as they made profits.
@Weaseldog2001 Because my response is necessarily trivialized by artificial brevity, I must content myself with saying please read Rothbard and any and all Austrian Economic theory with an open mind and curiousity to find out why it would work, and precisely why Anarchy is what we have now, with institutionalized violence called government, and in a free society what you propose would be impossible to fund, and far more costly to such a corporation (read uneconomic and therefor impractical)
@Weaseldog2001 if you understand Free Market Capitalism, then you would realize it is the natural behavior of man. Civilization was not built by force or conquest, but by cooperation and freedom. Government is an aberration of this system. Secondly, Your assuming incorrectly that bureaucrats and politicians don't buy and sell services in our current system...I've got news for you, that is their standard operating procedure. Done behind closed doors to the highest bidder
@indefiance24 I disagree strongly with your first point. Civilization evolved through a mix of cooperation and coercion. I think it is highly likely, that until 10,000 years ago, mankind wasn't domesticated (evolutionarily thinking) well enough to be coerced into working for other men, day in and day out. When that evolutionary step was made, civilization began to spread, and the genes that ,made humans obedient workers spread,
Respond to this video... Consider that in the countries with the longest standing civilizations, individuality is frowned upon and being a good worker, is considered a point of honor. I'll argue that this is the result of thousands of years of evolution with the nails that stand out, being hammered down.
Humans with these traits are easy to exploit and conquer, by those with more predatory traits.
@Weaseldog2001 Consider that one of the most resounding and long lived archetypal themes in stories revolves around the quest for human freedom. All men feel this need, and strive for it. This country was founded on 'anti-government' ideals at its core. Besides Your information is flawed as well. Government as we know it, indeed the word and concept of sovereignty didn't exist until the 1600's. Study the origins of government, and you will find it is not as cut and dried as your portray.
@indefiance24 After reading the Federalist Papers, I'm not sure where you get the idea that the founding father's were against government. Their arguments, efforts and ambitions were all directed at producing a better government than what they experienced under a monarchy.
I don't know where you get the idea that the first government appeared in the 1600s. Every tribal society has a government. You typically find a chief, medicine man, and tribal elders comprising the government.
@Weaseldog2001 Brevity makes for inescapable inaccuracies...The revolution was essentially a libertarian revolution...ie. the goal was to severely limit the scope and power of government across the board. These intentions are visible through The articles of confederation which granted virtually no powers at the federal level....the constitution usurped this original document and was the first move in what would become increasingly centralized monopolies of power and tyrannical government.
@indefiance24 Beijing had a feudal government for 5,000 years. China and Japan both had very complex fuedal governments for thousands of years. For governments in other parts of the world, we can look to Babylon, Egypt, the Mayans and Aztecs...
@Weaseldog2001 I think the point your missing is that these were not governments as we know them today. Their 'sovereignty' was necessarily limited in scope, and their remained areas to escape their grasp, giving a limit to how cruel they could become because the populace had the option of leaving. Where is that option today? The whole world has been divided into tax-farms... making escape virtually impossible, and the tyranny unavoidable.
@indefiance24 Our founding fathers based their model of government on Athens in ancient Greece. And in ancient times, say you walked you family hundreds of miles, hungry, thirsty, begging as you went, to escape a tyrant, and now you're in a land where you don't speak the language, and it has it's own tyrant.
I can't think of any good examples of what you're arguing. The main limit to cruelty, was the fear that the people would turn on the king. And still we had many examples of cruel tyrants.
@indefiance24 I'll posit the the argument that the only reason you can even conceive of the things you're writing about is because your genetic mix is a bit different than the mean. This makes it difficult for you to comprehend how most humans in civilized portions of the world actually think. I had the same problem when I was younger, I assumed that everyone was driven to self reliance, independence, and wanted freedom to pursue happiness.
@Weaseldog2001 Your making the fatal and unproven assumption that this is nature, not nurture. What is Human Nature? The very fact that such a persistent archetypal theme of longing and searching for freedom persists, hints at the nature we actually possess vs the nurture you posit. You cynically believe that because we are brought up in slavery, we must be natural slaves...I disagree on every level. Leaving men alone always succeeds, there has yet to be a successful governance.
@indefiance24 You're confusing nature and nurture, but I know what you mean. I'm not saying that men brought as salves are natural slaves. I'm not saying anything of the kind. I'm saying that generation after generation, the best workers and city dwellers thrived and did best in cities. They had the best options for mates, and likely had lower incidence of infant mortality. It's undeniable that they evolved stronger resistances to disease as a result of their close quartering.
@Weaseldog2001 No you misunderstood. Im not confusing it. Your saying it is human nature via evolution to be natural slaves to parasitic masters...Eloi food for the Morlocks. This is not proven, and in fact there is a substantial body of evidence proving just the opposite. Namely that subservience is not bred, but learned behavior via state schooling and indoctrination. Thus I am saying it isn't our nature, merely our nurture which has caused this turn of events in recent history.
@indefiance24 I'm curious as to what controls were used in these experiments. If humans evolved to be better workers, then it would be easier to train them to be better workers. What you describe is the natural result of of what I'm arguing. To disprove my contention that humans have evolved over the last 30,000 years, you would need a sampling of humans that predate these evolutionary steps and show that they can thrive in a dense urban environment as well as the humans that thrive in them now.
@indefiance24 and you're not the first to point out that human evolution is unproven. It's has been documented though in the Jewish societies. In their society, arranging marriages for good breeding has been a longstanding tradition. As a result, they tend to test out in IQ tests higher than the norm.
@Weaseldog2001 I never said anything about evolution. Any position which equates slavery with human nature is wrong, unproven, with mounting evidence of just the opposite. These are learned behaviors, not universal, as there are many examples of societies and organizations with no central authority and spontaneous order emerging naturally. I accept evolution as incontrovertible. You just haven't proven what is human nature. You have equated correlation with causation, a fundamental error.
@indefiance24 We can't easily learn things that go against our nature. We can learn these things because it's in our nature to be social.If we didn't evolve to be comfortable in groups. We wouldn't find it easy to live in groups.
@indefiance24 Are you saying that when there is a correlation, the there is no causation?
It seems clear here that you're arguing that humans are so fundamentally different from animals, that nothing we know about animals applies to humans. For instance, if we study apes, we can't learn anything about ourselves, because that's correlation, not causation.
The strange part though is that I'm arguing causation. Evolution changes us, and evolutionary pressure is still with us. Science accepts this
@Weaseldog2001 Correlation doesn't prove causation, too many factors. Your mistake: Society is currently modeled after institutionalized violence and coercion (Correlation), therefor human kind is predisposed genetically for slavery (Claim of Causation). This is a false assumption with little proof. Societies have followed 2 models historically, central monopoly via force and violence vs emergent spontaneous order via voluntary cooperation. Collectivism vs. Individualism force vs. cooperation
@indefiance24 I don;t agree with your assertions here. Though violence is ever present in human society, the evolutionary drive has been towards people becoming calmer and better workers in crowded urban environments. People who are crappy workers, or can't adjust socially because they are uncomfortable on crowded streets or with bad smells, will select themselves out of the city's breeding population by various means.
@Weaseldog2001 The invisible gun in the room? Its like playing where's waldo. Can you see it? If not, keep looking, for the votes in our society merely argue over who holds it for the next four years. The right points it at the left, who feel the very real fear of being forced, who takeover the gun and point it at the right. We squabble over the institutions of violence and force, when we should dismantle them and bring an end to violence. BTW Government is FORCE, and a monopoly at that.
@indefiance24 Right, but that exists because as a species we're reasonable comfortable with the situation. If a majority of people couldn't stand for it, it would have come this far. It's the Anthropomorphic Principle at work. We're here, because this is where we are. If we weren't here, we'd be somewhere else....
You and I got a different mix of genes that make us misfits. We don't represent the majority.
@indefiance24 The left and right are constructs to keep us distracted. It works well. It's worked for thousands of years. Emmanuel Goldstein has been blessed with eternal life.
@indefiance24 Those means may include moving away, self medicating with dangerous drugs, or getting killed or incarcerated for crimes. In many cultures, even petty crimes have been punishable by death is dismemberment for hundreds or thousands of years. As the Japanese say, "The spike that stands out, is hammered down." In that culture even slight cultural slights could get you executed.
@indefiance24 but let me re-iterate, I disagree with you that violence is the main driver. The main driver is that people who could thrive and work hard in crowded and unpleasant conditions had more opportunities to find mates that admired their work ethic, and more resources to provide for the health and well being of their children.
@Weaseldog2001 . A great deal of research shows a correlation between serotonin levels and a person's comfort level in being near large groups of strangers. Would you agree or disagree that serotonin has a large influence on personality? Would you agree or disagree that natural serotonin levels have both and environmental and genetic basis? In animals, it's been demonstrated that breeding for lower serotonin levels produces friendlier animals that are more comfortable with strange people.
@Weaseldog2001 I believe a flock of birds lacks a leader, yet manages to act in an organic fashion with seeming intelligence, how about a school of fish? This is called emergence, tied directly with the austrian economic theories of spontaneous order. None of what you said disproves this...in fact I believe strongly in the need for social interaction. I contend only that force and violence are obviously counterproductive to all social ends.
@indefiance24 and finally, we know that animals can be bred for desired behavioral and physical traits. There has been success with every animal species tried. It would seem that the burden of proof then, is showing that evolution doesn't work with humans, because we are in some fundamental way, not animals.
@Weaseldog2001 We are animals. With the exceptional ability to perform self-iterative higher brain functions...ie we are aware of ourselves. Like the fractals our minds can think about thinking about thinking about thinking, giving us the ability to perform introspection and change our own course. Chaos theory, free will. No other animal is shown (yet) to have this ability, but it is certainly within the realm of possibility for other organisms to have it as well.
@indefiance24 I've spent my life working with animals as pets and livestock. It seems incomprehensible that someone would assume that they have no free will. Even my chickens can be seen to think up goals, and apply problem solving techniques to achieve them.
@Weaseldog2001 Our definitions differ slighly. I don't think a valid definition of free will would neglect the prerequisite of self-awareness. The mirror test shows that some primates are self-aware. Does this mean they can practice introspection? To a limited degree I would say yes. Self-direction = Free will. Therefore Without introspection self-direction/free will is impossible. Furthermore, the degree to which a human practices introspection, equals the ability to practice free-will.
@indefiance24 I learned over time, that what people really want is stability, and to be told what to do, and how to think, and what they should be. Those of us that aren't happy with this are misfits, troublemakers. you can inspire your fellow man and get them to agree with you. Because that's what they do when you approach them with an air of authority. But when the next person projecting authority comes along, they'll adopt the persona that person wants.
@Weaseldog2001 People couldn't comprehend ending slavery, or giving women rights either. Every large paradigm shift in society is preceded by incomprehension and followed by incomprehension. "Where are all those slaves going to get Jobs!?!" Was the cry which became, "How did we ever think this was Moral or correct!?!" Your arguing for essentially an immoral monopoly of violence on the assumption that people prefer to be slaves...I think humanity has more potential then you give us credit for
@indefiance24 You so completely misunderstand me, that I'm not sure how we can bridge the gap. your previous statement on animals, suggests that we're far enough apart in experience, and educational backgrounds that I'll have trouble laying out my case in a way that you understand in this limited forum. I'm saying you're not smart or well educated, just that our backgrounds seem to very different. If you had practical experience in animal husbandry, I think our discussion would be different.
@Weaseldog2001 I agree...study economics, philosophy, and history with a dash of psychology thrown in for good measure. Without any condescension, I honestly believe all adults in our society are made functionally retarded via state schools and indoctrination. The theories of freedom and individual liberty are at the heart of what made this country great, and those things are best studied through economics, philosophy, and history which are sorely neglected. Its easier to herd the uneducated.
@indefiance24 i think the current study of economics, even both those well educated, is part of the problem. There's a lot of magical thinking involved in it. It even uses magical terms to describe it's mysterious forces. There accepted mainstream theories and notions that lead to conclusions that violate physical laws. i think the root theories of economic is sound. At some point is co-opted by con men though, and warped.
@Weaseldog2001 I agree whole heartedly...which is why I have tried to stress Austrian Economics. For starters, they don't posit you can consume before production, or eat your cake and have it too like the Keynsians (Mainstream) and go a long way towards debunking that magical thinking you put so eloquently . Mises.org is a great place to start. You may find a whole new world of ideas and truth... ;) I have to quit now, I enjoyed the interaction, good luck.
@indefiance24 I agree with you that dumbing down of education in general, is a large part of our problem today. I worry though that William Shockley was correct in that because of the way we've structured our society, we've created evolutionary pressure to evolve us into less intelligent humans. That can only go so far before life gets so hard that evolutionary pressure reverses direction.
@indefiance24 I can think of one instance that would fit you your violence theory though. That's the Cristian crusades during the Middle Ages. In that time, social misfits of various sorts were eliminated from society. Anyone that had a problem with the Church's authority and violent actions were killed. People who had the sort of personality that made it impossible to learn to accept this, were selected out.
Respond to this video... As to your last point, I do realize that point. I'll argue that we have essentially an deregulated market and government, where those with the most money, use their money to rule others, and decide who must obey the law and who doesn't have to obey it. At the top there are no laws and no regulations. Money in the Free Market is the sole arbitrator of our governance and economic systems. In our system, money has infinite value and humans are zeros.
just as much a case of human trafficking as any russian mafioso enslaving sex workers from former communist countries. these two are SCUM, plain and simple, and should serve time in a ukranian jail.
So, this settles any debate there might have been about privatizing prisons. How big ijs the company that owns the pirz in PA? Do they own any in other states?
The usual. What do you think happens in some of the cases in Nassau and Suffolk? What do you think CPS does as a matter of course? (Indicate falsely, send people to croney programs, use power for political purposes, build the CPS/DSS machine/empire and patronage job mill.
THE "LEGAL" SYSTEM IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA IS CLEARLY IN DIRE NEED OF AN ABSOLUTE OVERHAUL.
I HEREBY DECLARE THAT NO COURT IN THE STATE OF PA BE ALLOWED TO PROSECUTE ANY FURTHER CASES, AND THAT ALL CASES FROM THE LAST 5 YEARS BE RE-TRIED.
The FBI needs to step in IMMEDIATELY and halt all court operations, and federal warrants should be IMMEDIATELY ISSUED for everyone affiliated with the private prison company. Everyone in PA needs to grab their guns out NOW, you may have to reclaim govt.
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In the UK Private Co Serco who run Secure Training Centres receive over £170K per child per year funded by the Government using our money as taxpayers. It's time that similar investigations were conduced in the UK. Adam Rickwood (14), the youngest child to allegedly take his own life in UK Custody endured 'unlawful force' by Serco's guards before being found hanged with his own shoe-laces whilst he was meant to be on suicide watch. Continued ...
Judge Ciavarella DID NOT plead guilty. He was convicted by a jury in federal court.
"SCRANTON - A federal jury Friday found former Luzerne County Court Judge Mark A. Ciavarella Jr. guilty of racketeering in one of the nation's worst judicial scandals, guilty of "honest services mail fraud" they found him guilty of conspiring to launder money."
Children are cheap. In this day and age of abortion, people think of children as disposable, kinda like Bic lighters. Face it we can always make more !
7 years is a wrist slap. How about 1 year each for all of the 5,000 counts of miscarriage of justice? And charge the ones who paid the bribes too, for cryin' out loud.
@ahachie Actuyally, this "lady" hasn't anything to do with it. These bastards destroyed the lives of thousands of kids in our small town and people complained for years and years. This happened over decades.
Please watch my story"TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE". I have documents to prove my innocence yet no one wants to even acknowledge it. My life has been destroyed.
Look up PRISON STOCKS....very lucrative....WHO ARE THE INVESTORS???
I HOPE NOT THE JUDGES AND POLITICIANS.....
Please help me get my story out there. BTW IF THESE JUDGES NEVER GOT BUSTED IT WOULD HAVE CONTINUED.......UNTIL WHEN, THEY RETIRED.
How did this get exposed? Who was the one that noticed? There is so much more to uncover
joanarc1111 2 weeks ago
oh, i posted it on my BoudicaSlade channel and on RisePatriot but u can see the whole casefile via 3w dot osunrise dot com (stands for Operation Sunrise..put the 3w.. in the URL, not google). Solution to problem MUST start with those on the BOTTOM who daily must carry this crap out. They are easily made to Fear by simply exposing their LOCAL activities to whoever their competition is. Simple really.
BoudicaSlade 3 weeks ago
Look at what wellz fargo did to ME as employee for reporting major fraud to FBI. I obtained the forensics from City of Eugene. You can hear the cops declaring me a crazy jew and then you can hear them pissing in toilet. You can hear the fake 911 call.... I obtained the entire forensic trail because.... i am a crazy jew. it is FAR worse than you ever imagined because the LOCAL POLICE everywhere do the same daily. And..nothing happens to them. It just drops from the news.
BoudicaSlade 3 weeks ago
Can it get any sicker?
bjmaverick 1 month ago
Anyone who stood by and allowed this to happen should be behind bars including every single individual who complied with or works for this disgusting slave trade racket.
maximumrule 1 month ago
OMG! This crap is going on in Clarion County Corrections from what IM hearing!
TheCreativeThoughts 2 months ago
I think they should look into Dauphin County Court House too.
PerlitaHabanera 3 months ago
I look forward to the 5,000 grown 'youths' getting together one fine day. I want to hear their stories. What a rotten thing to happen to kids!
ArgotMay 4 months ago
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ElTurbinado 5 months ago
Your comments are all funny, but where were you all a year and a half ago when this actually happened?
ElTurbinado 5 months ago
Wow. So why is this a civil suit? After closing the facilities and moving the prisoners out, the people who paid the bribes should be locked in the same buildings as their former "guests".
sfjeff1089 5 months ago
Hang them on live tv for the world to see then take everything they own and give it to the victims. Let these judges wives and children sleep naked in a cardboard box. Only a punishment of that magnitude will deter these arrogant bastards called judges.
ARBuilder1776 5 months ago
I bet this is the tip of an iceberg. Now let's find out how many bodies were robbed of their organs...that died in their custody.
drumheadcircle 6 months ago
@drumheadcircle And also how many old people were forced into nursing homes and had everything taken by the state and these crooked thieving fuckers.
ARBuilder1776 5 months ago
They want kids they can get before they have kids...and keep them from procreating. It's racism as we are all mixed, and they are all cult members (pure blood masons, illuminatti). Why should their kids be treated soooo different than ours?
drumheadcircle 6 months ago
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We have psychopaths ruling our communities. It's not about money. They don't have feelings empathy or conscience. Their heart doesn't jump when they are suddenly screamed at by infuriating mum, no emotions = no physical feedback to emotions of others either. They are not humans, they are psychopaths. Read Sociopath next door from Martha Stout to understand who psychopaths are and watch Thomas Sheridan's channel. Their only aim is to win and dominate. Without remorse or guilt. Or cure..
stromak 8 months ago
Wow, firing squads ready?
Lordoftheflyfilms 8 months ago
you know this is going on on a wider scale too.. it cant be limited to just these aholes.. its like finding one roach in the house; you know theres more....theres so much money to be made in private because of labor...cheap as hell labor....it gives too much motivation and incentive for judges and law enforcement to lock people up.....privatizing prisons as with many public services breeds corruption you see it here...next they will privatize law enforcement itself and were all screwed
kewzee 8 months ago
the judges only get 7 years for their crimes? what about the money they received?
gonzobrains 8 months ago
ok, so what? they sent some youths to private prisons, were they being molested there?
MaggogZ 8 months ago
@MaggogZ
No offense, I mean with no malice at all in this, but please tell me you're joking.
garyel828 8 months ago
@MaggogZ
No offense, I mean this with no malice to you at all, but please tell me you are joking.
garyel828 8 months ago
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@MaggogZ
No offense, I mean this with no malice at all towards you, but please tell me you're joking.
garyel828 8 months ago
@MaggogZ They sent them to private prisons for months, in some cases, for things that they shouldn't have been sent to prison for.
Also the judges were PAID to send them to a specific prison. Do you not realize what that means? It means that justice wasn't the issue in their trials, the judges had a benefit to send these kids to prisons for things that they otherwise would have just gotten a few months of community service or something.
fabifly 8 months ago
This is disgusting. Im thankful i dont live in the US....
evilmonkey14880 8 months ago
I wish more people would see this. The US would be a better place if this level of corruption was revealed to more than 12,471 people, and more than 147 people actually had something to say about it
verd12w 8 months ago
I was in shock for a minute, but then I remembered that this is the same government pushing the copyright laws, among other things.
verd12w 8 months ago
thumbs up if Isohunt broughts you here ;)
malliking 8 months ago 42
when it comes to the green, never trust the gov and never will
chaohlin 8 months ago
this is horrible
you08poophead 8 months ago
wtf !
shaderx666 8 months ago
@NonServiam3 So right, it needed to be posted twice!
Dambrosi 8 months ago
I hope they don't get sent to one of those white-collar country-club prisons. Don't drop the soap, your honor!
hognoxious 8 months ago
Didn't this happen on The Good Wife?
bkheo 8 months ago
They were probably Christians.
pinealglandisthekey 8 months ago
This is not the first time this issue has raised it's ugly head!! Seems to me it was an item last year as well.......
cheena1ca 8 months ago
String 'em up, and let the jailed kids use them as pinatas.
gridsleep 8 months ago
I say they get charged with human trafficking... That is exactly wtf they were doing.
bigdayowzyou 8 months ago 38
Not only are children used for profit....EVERYONE IN AMERICA IS USED FOR PROFIT IN THE COURT SYSTEMS!
The Codes and Statutes the 'law' works under, are bankruptcy terms, and are simply made to extort money from the private citizens.
KellimusMaximus 8 months ago 2
BUSTED! we should blame the mom and dad when children act bad! like the umpa-lumpa's said in the movie.
mrfnk 8 months ago
BUSTED! we should blame the mom and dad when children act bad!
mrfnk 8 months ago
It doesn't have more views because it's not very entertaining. It's still sickening.
OnlyDeity 8 months ago 2
I don't understand why this doesn't have more views?
DanielRemains 8 months ago 2
Savages there's no humanity in them
cfvcfvcfvcfvcfvcfvcf 8 months ago
HABEOUS CRMINALZ!!!
theberean94 8 months ago
I'm starting to look at the info on the site, and the PDF info that is downloadable from there. Right away I saw a visitation policy that says there are weekend visitors. I was allowed two (2) visits a year. This was done on "parent's weekend". If you were being disciplined at that point, they continued to revoke your privileges during your parents' visit. No friends, only immediate family. My brother came once. That was all the contact I had with the world in 18 months.
WolfmanMusic 9 months ago
I can't post the link because it come up as an error, but just do a google search for "george junior republic" in quotes, then click Our Story from the top
WolfmanMusic 9 months ago
@WolfmanMusic as you can see, they paint a pretty picture of it, but it was a horrible place (I was at the NY facility for 18 months).
WolfmanMusic 9 months ago
). I committed no crime, I was deemed "incorrigible" by a juvenile court on Long Island, and given the status "PINS" (person in need of supervision) and that was all they needed to put me away. They dragged me away from my friends, my school, my home. They worked me like a slave.
WolfmanMusic 9 months ago
Amy Goodman = S.C.U.M. Sociopathic Criminals Under Moloch. Nothin' soapboxy about it. There are many vids showing people asking her about her non-stance on 9/11. Why won't she come out for the truth? What, and who, is she hiding? Did they say her job was at stake? Anyone who allows themselves to be blackmailed/bribed by the NWO *is* the NWO.
jockdoubleday 9 months ago
WELCOME THE POLICE STATE SUCKERS! YOU LET THE TSA STICK THEIR HANDS DOWN YOUR PANTS AND THEN YOU WONDER WHY???????
ToolFan68 9 months ago
GJR (George Junior Republic) Freeville, NY. 1977
WolfmanMusic 9 months ago
DO NOT EVER CONTRACT WITH the court system. There is no common law in the court house any more.
cr8luck 9 months ago
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DO NOT EVER CONTRACT WITH the court system. There is no common law in the court house any more. Look at your driver's license, birth certificate, etc......your name is in capital letters. They created entities with our names so they have jurisdiction over our bodies. RECLAIM OUR SOVEREIGNITY.....for ourselves and for everybody.
cr8luck 9 months ago
DO NOT EVER CONTRACT WITH the court system. There is no common law in the court house any more. Look at your driver's license, birth certificate, etc......your name is in capital letters. They created entities with our names so they have jurisdiction over our bodies. RECLAIM OUR SOVEREIGNITY.....for ourselves and for everybody.
cr8luck 9 months ago
@cr8luck you are exactly right...
dogbiteskwik 9 months ago
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WolfmanMusic 9 months ago
@WolfmanMusic What is the name of the prison you were sent to? And how long ago was this?
hobonciv 9 months ago
@hobonciv GJR (George Junior Republic) Freeville, NY. 1977
WolfmanMusic 9 months ago
I blame my mother of alot of this just because as a mother it's your duty to know what going on with your Childs life and at that time she was going threw a bad divorce and she didn't want the state too send her 2nd child off to her father.
SouthLineMusicGroup 9 months ago
I lost my childhood life because of this program! I was never in trouble with the law! They keeled on telling my mother a hole bunch of BS to keep me in this crazy place to get my fathers insurance money!
SouthLineMusicGroup 9 months ago
I was also a victiam of this at the age of 12 when I was put in a program named Straight! They use me to get money from my fathers insurance company. I wad there for 5 years of my life, I'm 36 years old now and I will never forget this experience that I went threw.
SouthLineMusicGroup 9 months ago 9
@SouthLineMusicGroup
My heart felt feelings go out to you. This is a travesty beyond comprehension and I hope these people, including your 'judge' get what they deserve.
judgewest2000 8 months ago
@judgewest2000 well its dirty no doubt.... but if they were there, they had done something to face prison time. it's not really a travesty.. just immoral behavior on behalf of judge. find something to plug up that bleeding heart of yours
b0ssh0gg 8 months ago
@b0ssh0gg
Capitalism at its best. Loop holes always get found and exploited, the US is good at putting them out there. This could constitute fraud also I guess.
Bleeding heart?? I don't follow.
judgewest2000 8 months ago
@judgewest2000 This has nothing to do with capitalism. People in positions of power committed crimes; that's all. These activities were against the law. The tenets of capitalism and privatization do not include breaking the law.
billymuscles 8 months ago
@billymuscles Howdy.
I'm afraid disagree with you. I am fully aware of the benefits of capitalism for modern society, although the last couple of years puts that view under scrutiny.
You are not allowed to break the law, true, but without a specific trail of events would this judge have been in a position to become a beneficiary from the terrible actions he made?
The trail being the privatisation of these programmes and the financial incentives of filling places.
That's capitalism.
judgewest2000 8 months ago
@judgewest2000 Organized crime organizations routinely bribe judges to rule in their favor and oft for the result of financial gain. Examples of such bribery would be a bribe to acquit mob members so they can stay on the streets and continue to make money for the mob by stealing, selling drugs, etc.
Capitalism is not required for a briber to experience financial gain. For generations, non-capitalist dictators held "kangaroo courts" to confiscate wealth from private citizens in their courts.
billymuscles 8 months ago
@billymuscles Those kangaroo courts for dictators are not about money per say but about a grab for power where money is required, not the same. Money is not the ultimate goal, simply an aid to power.
Capitalism / free market, call it what you will was the ultimate cause of the banking crash in 2008 owing to feeding people's greed. Whatever the 'tenets' of capitalism are, it doesn't stop the perversion of making rules to favor greed over morals.
Hell, it's only a word.
judgewest2000 8 months ago
@judgewest2000 The sub-prime housing market was anything but a "free market" because the government guaranteed payment to the banks on the sub-prime loans. The goal of this government policy was to give lower income people the opportunity to buy homes and it didn't go as planned. America doesn't have "real" capitalism either.
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Bigwave2003 6 months ago
@billymuscles The tenets of capitalism are amoral. Violations of the law are just another cost/benefit factor to be weighed before making a business decision. I worked in the medical industry when our sales force estimated we'd make a quick $250k profit and gain market share if we made an unsupportable claim about a new product. The only question our legal team was asked was how much we could be fined if we got caught. The answer: $5k-10k. Guess what decision was made?
Bigwave2003 6 months ago
This has been going on for many years! Even in the state of Texas and in Florida!
SouthLineMusicGroup 9 months ago
OK, folks. What MORE Evidence do U need to understand what many of People of Color have been "implying" about our Court system for DECADES now ?
THIS is an ATROCITY ! This is the result of the deterioration of our juvenile court systems, our public AND PRIVATE school systems, and other related institutions, across the Country.
Money drives GREED. GREED "fuels" Corruption. And Corruption fuels the Passion for MORE Money.
Erionnacirema 9 months ago
wow. Keep in mind : "still waters run deep"
downtowncowtown 9 months ago
whaaaaaat??!!
monsieurdewpoint 9 months ago
My question is this. Which president appointed these crooks? Didn't anyone check these guys?
advanzio1 9 months ago
I've heard of this happening. About what we should all expect when we allow for-profit privatization to do the job government HAD and SHOULD be doing.
captfoster1 9 months ago
@captfoster1 I think that government is as equally capable of corruption as private enterprise, since both government and private enterprise are operated by people and since most people are all motivated by self-interest and easily swayed by greed.
I think that the problem here is not the private prison but the corrupt judge. Judicial bribery only requires a corrupt judge and not a private enterprise.
For generations, non-capitalist dictators confiscated wealth from private citizens in courts.
billymuscles 8 months ago
THE 2 DISLIKES ARE THE JUDGES VOTES I THINK.....
dimiali 9 months ago
AND the taxpayers ALSO PAY for the ( also corrupted?) police officers providing the merchandise...
LiteWaiter 9 months ago
What does it matter that they were paid or that the prisons were private? It was evil shit regardless. Fuck the state.
1983Bantam 9 months ago 2
@1983Bantam Fuck the state indeed. Without the corrupting influence of the monopoly of violence (Government), these private business would not be subsidized, and would rise or fall on their merits dictated by the free interaction of individuals, rather than the artificial success created by the use of force and institutionalized violence and their unholy alliance with said evil...
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 Without the government, there would be no prisons, no police officers, no courts, no trials. As nature abhors a vacuum, you'd soon have men carving out kingdoms and inventing their own laws and handing down their judgements on the people that living within the borders that they have conquered. Most of our population can't exist without a system that defines their role and gives them a predictable life. Humans have evolved to become too domesticated by civilization.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 Wrong on all counts. We would have all these things, but it would be done through volunteerism, not force or an artificial monopoly. In our current system in a dispute between the government and its tax slaves (citizens), the final arbiter IS THE GOVERNMENT. Of course that means it will always settle disputes in its own favor, guaranteeing the growth of tyranny over time.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 There are human beings that are capable of living in the system you describe. But I would argue that they are a small fraction of the population. You can look to 'The Diggers' for a historical example, that I think fits your theory.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 Most people want to be told how to live their lives, and enjoy the fantastical stories of freedom. They want to be told they are free. And they believe what people in authority tell them. This is the majority of people. And those that are natural predators such as sociopaths and narcissists will step and rule them. If you stand up to them, those self appointed chiefs will have you killed or put in jail, by their serfs, who are happy to have a life with order.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 We have the system we have, not because it's unnatural, but because the individual actions of billions of human beings, statistically move to the mean. This is normal for humans. This system is natural. If you want to change the system, you must change the DNA of humans and make them a different species. and as you do so, you must counter the natural selection forces driving domestication.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
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Jailing KIDS for PROFIT
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Incarceration Nation
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techcafe 9 months ago
Free Market Capitalism at work.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001
this has to be one of the most senseless comments I've ever come across...Collusion with force, institutionalized violence in no way accurately represent "freedom" and therefore your comment amounts to a complete lack of understanding the nature of freedom, Market, Or Capitalism. Your certifiably wrong on all counts. Corporatism isn't capitalism, freedom isn't violence. You have upended the meanings of these words and called it wisdom...
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 Wooooshhhh!!!! That's the sound of sarcasm going over your head. :)
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 But seriously, in Free Market Capitalism in the purest sense, there are no laws or regulations. Corporations could legally buy and sell human beings, because nothing they could do would be illegal, so long as they made profits.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 Because my response is necessarily trivialized by artificial brevity, I must content myself with saying please read Rothbard and any and all Austrian Economic theory with an open mind and curiousity to find out why it would work, and precisely why Anarchy is what we have now, with institutionalized violence called government, and in a free society what you propose would be impossible to fund, and far more costly to such a corporation (read uneconomic and therefor impractical)
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 Why wouldn't bureaucrats and politicians in a lawless market system buy and sell services?
I understand the the theory of Free Market Capitalism, I just don't see humans behaving according to the theory.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 if you understand Free Market Capitalism, then you would realize it is the natural behavior of man. Civilization was not built by force or conquest, but by cooperation and freedom. Government is an aberration of this system. Secondly, Your assuming incorrectly that bureaucrats and politicians don't buy and sell services in our current system...I've got news for you, that is their standard operating procedure. Done behind closed doors to the highest bidder
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 I disagree strongly with your first point. Civilization evolved through a mix of cooperation and coercion. I think it is highly likely, that until 10,000 years ago, mankind wasn't domesticated (evolutionarily thinking) well enough to be coerced into working for other men, day in and day out. When that evolutionary step was made, civilization began to spread, and the genes that ,made humans obedient workers spread,
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
Respond to this video... Consider that in the countries with the longest standing civilizations, individuality is frowned upon and being a good worker, is considered a point of honor. I'll argue that this is the result of thousands of years of evolution with the nails that stand out, being hammered down.
Humans with these traits are easy to exploit and conquer, by those with more predatory traits.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 Consider that one of the most resounding and long lived archetypal themes in stories revolves around the quest for human freedom. All men feel this need, and strive for it. This country was founded on 'anti-government' ideals at its core. Besides Your information is flawed as well. Government as we know it, indeed the word and concept of sovereignty didn't exist until the 1600's. Study the origins of government, and you will find it is not as cut and dried as your portray.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 After reading the Federalist Papers, I'm not sure where you get the idea that the founding father's were against government. Their arguments, efforts and ambitions were all directed at producing a better government than what they experienced under a monarchy.
I don't know where you get the idea that the first government appeared in the 1600s. Every tribal society has a government. You typically find a chief, medicine man, and tribal elders comprising the government.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 Brevity makes for inescapable inaccuracies...The revolution was essentially a libertarian revolution...ie. the goal was to severely limit the scope and power of government across the board. These intentions are visible through The articles of confederation which granted virtually no powers at the federal level....the constitution usurped this original document and was the first move in what would become increasingly centralized monopolies of power and tyrannical government.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 You're correct.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 Beijing had a feudal government for 5,000 years. China and Japan both had very complex fuedal governments for thousands of years. For governments in other parts of the world, we can look to Babylon, Egypt, the Mayans and Aztecs...
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 I think the point your missing is that these were not governments as we know them today. Their 'sovereignty' was necessarily limited in scope, and their remained areas to escape their grasp, giving a limit to how cruel they could become because the populace had the option of leaving. Where is that option today? The whole world has been divided into tax-farms... making escape virtually impossible, and the tyranny unavoidable.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 Our founding fathers based their model of government on Athens in ancient Greece. And in ancient times, say you walked you family hundreds of miles, hungry, thirsty, begging as you went, to escape a tyrant, and now you're in a land where you don't speak the language, and it has it's own tyrant.
I can't think of any good examples of what you're arguing. The main limit to cruelty, was the fear that the people would turn on the king. And still we had many examples of cruel tyrants.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 I'll posit the the argument that the only reason you can even conceive of the things you're writing about is because your genetic mix is a bit different than the mean. This makes it difficult for you to comprehend how most humans in civilized portions of the world actually think. I had the same problem when I was younger, I assumed that everyone was driven to self reliance, independence, and wanted freedom to pursue happiness.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 Your making the fatal and unproven assumption that this is nature, not nurture. What is Human Nature? The very fact that such a persistent archetypal theme of longing and searching for freedom persists, hints at the nature we actually possess vs the nurture you posit. You cynically believe that because we are brought up in slavery, we must be natural slaves...I disagree on every level. Leaving men alone always succeeds, there has yet to be a successful governance.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 You're confusing nature and nurture, but I know what you mean. I'm not saying that men brought as salves are natural slaves. I'm not saying anything of the kind. I'm saying that generation after generation, the best workers and city dwellers thrived and did best in cities. They had the best options for mates, and likely had lower incidence of infant mortality. It's undeniable that they evolved stronger resistances to disease as a result of their close quartering.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 No you misunderstood. Im not confusing it. Your saying it is human nature via evolution to be natural slaves to parasitic masters...Eloi food for the Morlocks. This is not proven, and in fact there is a substantial body of evidence proving just the opposite. Namely that subservience is not bred, but learned behavior via state schooling and indoctrination. Thus I am saying it isn't our nature, merely our nurture which has caused this turn of events in recent history.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 I'm curious as to what controls were used in these experiments. If humans evolved to be better workers, then it would be easier to train them to be better workers. What you describe is the natural result of of what I'm arguing. To disprove my contention that humans have evolved over the last 30,000 years, you would need a sampling of humans that predate these evolutionary steps and show that they can thrive in a dense urban environment as well as the humans that thrive in them now.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 and you're not the first to point out that human evolution is unproven. It's has been documented though in the Jewish societies. In their society, arranging marriages for good breeding has been a longstanding tradition. As a result, they tend to test out in IQ tests higher than the norm.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 I never said anything about evolution. Any position which equates slavery with human nature is wrong, unproven, with mounting evidence of just the opposite. These are learned behaviors, not universal, as there are many examples of societies and organizations with no central authority and spontaneous order emerging naturally. I accept evolution as incontrovertible. You just haven't proven what is human nature. You have equated correlation with causation, a fundamental error.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 We can't easily learn things that go against our nature. We can learn these things because it's in our nature to be social.If we didn't evolve to be comfortable in groups. We wouldn't find it easy to live in groups.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 Are you saying that when there is a correlation, the there is no causation?
It seems clear here that you're arguing that humans are so fundamentally different from animals, that nothing we know about animals applies to humans. For instance, if we study apes, we can't learn anything about ourselves, because that's correlation, not causation.
The strange part though is that I'm arguing causation. Evolution changes us, and evolutionary pressure is still with us. Science accepts this
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 Correlation doesn't prove causation, too many factors. Your mistake: Society is currently modeled after institutionalized violence and coercion (Correlation), therefor human kind is predisposed genetically for slavery (Claim of Causation). This is a false assumption with little proof. Societies have followed 2 models historically, central monopoly via force and violence vs emergent spontaneous order via voluntary cooperation. Collectivism vs. Individualism force vs. cooperation
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 I don;t agree with your assertions here. Though violence is ever present in human society, the evolutionary drive has been towards people becoming calmer and better workers in crowded urban environments. People who are crappy workers, or can't adjust socially because they are uncomfortable on crowded streets or with bad smells, will select themselves out of the city's breeding population by various means.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 The invisible gun in the room? Its like playing where's waldo. Can you see it? If not, keep looking, for the votes in our society merely argue over who holds it for the next four years. The right points it at the left, who feel the very real fear of being forced, who takeover the gun and point it at the right. We squabble over the institutions of violence and force, when we should dismantle them and bring an end to violence. BTW Government is FORCE, and a monopoly at that.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 Right, but that exists because as a species we're reasonable comfortable with the situation. If a majority of people couldn't stand for it, it would have come this far. It's the Anthropomorphic Principle at work. We're here, because this is where we are. If we weren't here, we'd be somewhere else....
You and I got a different mix of genes that make us misfits. We don't represent the majority.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 That is democracy at work.
AxiomofDiscord 9 months ago
@indefiance24 The left and right are constructs to keep us distracted. It works well. It's worked for thousands of years. Emmanuel Goldstein has been blessed with eternal life.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 Those means may include moving away, self medicating with dangerous drugs, or getting killed or incarcerated for crimes. In many cultures, even petty crimes have been punishable by death is dismemberment for hundreds or thousands of years. As the Japanese say, "The spike that stands out, is hammered down." In that culture even slight cultural slights could get you executed.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 but let me re-iterate, I disagree with you that violence is the main driver. The main driver is that people who could thrive and work hard in crowded and unpleasant conditions had more opportunities to find mates that admired their work ethic, and more resources to provide for the health and well being of their children.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 . A great deal of research shows a correlation between serotonin levels and a person's comfort level in being near large groups of strangers. Would you agree or disagree that serotonin has a large influence on personality? Would you agree or disagree that natural serotonin levels have both and environmental and genetic basis? In animals, it's been demonstrated that breeding for lower serotonin levels produces friendlier animals that are more comfortable with strange people.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 I believe a flock of birds lacks a leader, yet manages to act in an organic fashion with seeming intelligence, how about a school of fish? This is called emergence, tied directly with the austrian economic theories of spontaneous order. None of what you said disproves this...in fact I believe strongly in the need for social interaction. I contend only that force and violence are obviously counterproductive to all social ends.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 and finally, we know that animals can be bred for desired behavioral and physical traits. There has been success with every animal species tried. It would seem that the burden of proof then, is showing that evolution doesn't work with humans, because we are in some fundamental way, not animals.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 We are animals. With the exceptional ability to perform self-iterative higher brain functions...ie we are aware of ourselves. Like the fractals our minds can think about thinking about thinking about thinking, giving us the ability to perform introspection and change our own course. Chaos theory, free will. No other animal is shown (yet) to have this ability, but it is certainly within the realm of possibility for other organisms to have it as well.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 I've spent my life working with animals as pets and livestock. It seems incomprehensible that someone would assume that they have no free will. Even my chickens can be seen to think up goals, and apply problem solving techniques to achieve them.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 Our definitions differ slighly. I don't think a valid definition of free will would neglect the prerequisite of self-awareness. The mirror test shows that some primates are self-aware. Does this mean they can practice introspection? To a limited degree I would say yes. Self-direction = Free will. Therefore Without introspection self-direction/free will is impossible. Furthermore, the degree to which a human practices introspection, equals the ability to practice free-will.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 I learned over time, that what people really want is stability, and to be told what to do, and how to think, and what they should be. Those of us that aren't happy with this are misfits, troublemakers. you can inspire your fellow man and get them to agree with you. Because that's what they do when you approach them with an air of authority. But when the next person projecting authority comes along, they'll adopt the persona that person wants.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 People couldn't comprehend ending slavery, or giving women rights either. Every large paradigm shift in society is preceded by incomprehension and followed by incomprehension. "Where are all those slaves going to get Jobs!?!" Was the cry which became, "How did we ever think this was Moral or correct!?!" Your arguing for essentially an immoral monopoly of violence on the assumption that people prefer to be slaves...I think humanity has more potential then you give us credit for
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 You so completely misunderstand me, that I'm not sure how we can bridge the gap. your previous statement on animals, suggests that we're far enough apart in experience, and educational backgrounds that I'll have trouble laying out my case in a way that you understand in this limited forum. I'm saying you're not smart or well educated, just that our backgrounds seem to very different. If you had practical experience in animal husbandry, I think our discussion would be different.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 I agree...study economics, philosophy, and history with a dash of psychology thrown in for good measure. Without any condescension, I honestly believe all adults in our society are made functionally retarded via state schools and indoctrination. The theories of freedom and individual liberty are at the heart of what made this country great, and those things are best studied through economics, philosophy, and history which are sorely neglected. Its easier to herd the uneducated.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 i think the current study of economics, even both those well educated, is part of the problem. There's a lot of magical thinking involved in it. It even uses magical terms to describe it's mysterious forces. There accepted mainstream theories and notions that lead to conclusions that violate physical laws. i think the root theories of economic is sound. At some point is co-opted by con men though, and warped.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@Weaseldog2001 I agree whole heartedly...which is why I have tried to stress Austrian Economics. For starters, they don't posit you can consume before production, or eat your cake and have it too like the Keynsians (Mainstream) and go a long way towards debunking that magical thinking you put so eloquently . Mises.org is a great place to start. You may find a whole new world of ideas and truth... ;) I have to quit now, I enjoyed the interaction, good luck.
indefiance24 9 months ago
@indefiance24 I agree with you that dumbing down of education in general, is a large part of our problem today. I worry though that William Shockley was correct in that because of the way we've structured our society, we've created evolutionary pressure to evolve us into less intelligent humans. That can only go so far before life gets so hard that evolutionary pressure reverses direction.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
@indefiance24 I can think of one instance that would fit you your violence theory though. That's the Cristian crusades during the Middle Ages. In that time, social misfits of various sorts were eliminated from society. Anyone that had a problem with the Church's authority and violent actions were killed. People who had the sort of personality that made it impossible to learn to accept this, were selected out.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
Respond to this video... As to your last point, I do realize that point. I'll argue that we have essentially an deregulated market and government, where those with the most money, use their money to rule others, and decide who must obey the law and who doesn't have to obey it. At the top there are no laws and no regulations. Money in the Free Market is the sole arbitrator of our governance and economic systems. In our system, money has infinite value and humans are zeros.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
just as much a case of human trafficking as any russian mafioso enslaving sex workers from former communist countries. these two are SCUM, plain and simple, and should serve time in a ukranian jail.
whammo64 9 months ago
A mick and WOP and what do you expect..?
stoughton1 9 months ago
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USA, you are so fucked up...
AleifrLeifrson 9 months ago
The prisons paying the bribes are not sentenced???????
LiteWaiter 9 months ago
@LiteWaiter Corporations can't go to jail.
Weaseldog2001 9 months ago
Wow.. so there is good news sometimes! Thanks for sharing.
NAUresistance 9 months ago
put the judges head in a vice and slowly
pop thier fking eyes out of the pricks heads then in the oven they will go,head first
specialme2 9 months ago
So, this settles any debate there might have been about privatizing prisons. How big ijs the company that owns the pirz in PA? Do they own any in other states?
larchoye 9 months ago
The usual. What do you think happens in some of the cases in Nassau and Suffolk? What do you think CPS does as a matter of course? (Indicate falsely, send people to croney programs, use power for political purposes, build the CPS/DSS machine/empire and patronage job mill.
GregFischer 9 months ago
The judges, and the people who bribed them, should be jailed for human trafficking.
rhonan 9 months ago
@rhonan: If that were my daughter, there would be a few less people breathing in PA tonight...
larchoye 9 months ago
THE "LEGAL" SYSTEM IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA IS CLEARLY IN DIRE NEED OF AN ABSOLUTE OVERHAUL.
I HEREBY DECLARE THAT NO COURT IN THE STATE OF PA BE ALLOWED TO PROSECUTE ANY FURTHER CASES, AND THAT ALL CASES FROM THE LAST 5 YEARS BE RE-TRIED.
The FBI needs to step in IMMEDIATELY and halt all court operations, and federal warrants should be IMMEDIATELY ISSUED for everyone affiliated with the private prison company. Everyone in PA needs to grab their guns out NOW, you may have to reclaim govt.
larchoye 9 months ago
@larchoye To Hell with reclaiming it. Abolish it, or the problems will only come back and bite you again.
DougKendall 9 months ago
These judges should face the death penalty.
ScrapMetalBomb 9 months ago
Continued: Whilst Adam's family and loved-ones grieve, someone somewhere has outrageously profited from his incarceration and tragic death. People need to wake up, this is why Pie and Mash Films decided to provide our engaging 2hr 38min documentary 'ADAM RICKWOOD & THE MEDOMSLEY HEROES FULL DOCUMENTARY' on youtube for free viewing online
pnmfilms 9 months ago
In the UK Private Co Serco who run Secure Training Centres receive over £170K per child per year funded by the Government using our money as taxpayers. It's time that similar investigations were conduced in the UK. Adam Rickwood (14), the youngest child to allegedly take his own life in UK Custody endured 'unlawful force' by Serco's guards before being found hanged with his own shoe-laces whilst he was meant to be on suicide watch. Continued ...
pnmfilms 9 months ago
They should be going after the arresting officers too. I'm sure they helped themselves to some of the 2.6 million dollars.
gbrachfeld 9 months ago 6
@gbrachfeld They didn't. That's not how this worked.
AWonderVenus 9 months ago
They should be going after the arresting officers too.
gbrachfeld 9 months ago 2
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@gbrachfeld They were in no way involved in this problem.
AWonderVenus 9 months ago
Judge Ciavarella DID NOT plead guilty. He was convicted by a jury in federal court.
"SCRANTON - A federal jury Friday found former Luzerne County Court Judge Mark A. Ciavarella Jr. guilty of racketeering in one of the nation's worst judicial scandals, guilty of "honest services mail fraud" they found him guilty of conspiring to launder money."
mikemat3307 9 months ago 2
Children are cheap. In this day and age of abortion, people think of children as disposable, kinda like Bic lighters. Face it we can always make more !
hobo59 9 months ago
@hobo59 Idiot. One of these kids commited suicide.
AWonderVenus 9 months ago
@AWonderVenus Stupid, ever heard of Sarcasm !
hobo59 9 months ago
7 years is a wrist slap. How about 1 year each for all of the 5,000 counts of miscarriage of justice? And charge the ones who paid the bribes too, for cryin' out loud.
KarlJohanson42 9 months ago 15
ya... we believe you lady....
ahachie 9 months ago
@ahachie Actuyally, this "lady" hasn't anything to do with it. These bastards destroyed the lives of thousands of kids in our small town and people complained for years and years. This happened over decades.
AWonderVenus 9 months ago
The situation is akin what prevails in Québec with the Child Protection Agency, a local mafia link to organized crime
AdamCamille 9 months ago