The truth is Jesus has already returned and fullfilled all prophecy and the scripture says so!. The last enemy to be defeated by Jesus appearing is death (Rev). This is what Paul and all the first century believers were looking forward to (1 Corinthians 15). Did Jesus keep his promise to Paul and all the other Christians??.... turn to 2 Timothy 1:8-10 and find the answer!... now who are u going to believe, Gods word the gospel or your lying pastors and ministers??
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Hey DieOrBlink. You will regret those words and kneel to Him. Repent now, as I must also do, or face the Pit of Tears(H311). Jesus loves you, despite your terrible ways.
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Obama and other kings of the earth practice secret combinations, even the same one passed from the ancients, which is to KILL FOR GAIN. Even a follower of the devil, who taught this secret to Cain, who was a murderer from the beginning! we go to iraq,afghanistan, libya in the name of TERROR but we are the guys on THEIR lands with the GUNS! We are MURDERERS, God will not allow the blood of the saints and martyrs to cry upon him without vengeance forever....
"I would that ye should come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel, and partake of his salvation, and the power of his redemption. Yea, come unto him, and offer your whole souls as an offering unto him, and continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end; and as the Lord liveth ye will be saved." Joseph Smith Jr.
Mormoms like the Roman Catholic Church have added to or taking from that which Jesus gave to the world in order that we may prepare for salvation, namely the gospels. Therefore they do not follow Christ but, rather that which they added to or subtracted from, which includes paganistic beliefs/rituals and false doctrines, they are not true Christians.
What do the trinitarians have to offer the world? Their trinitarian God created this world, provided billions of souls to occupy it, and sent a Redeemer to save those souls so they could return to Heaven. However, He made a limited effort to give those billions access to the key of redemption--the chance to know that Redeemer and ACCEPT or REJECT Him. Then He condemns those billions to hell because they didn't accept the Redeemer the majority never even heard of.....cont...
If their God is omnipotent, He could have made a way for ALL to participate. Because of this I REJECT their trinitarian Jesus. I refuse to accept a God who is so uncaring, unloving, and unjust that He ignores the prayers and pleadings of the vast majority of His human creations.
This will send me to their hell, but I do this of my own free will and choice. In their hell, I will be among the billions who were never given a free will and choice.....cont...
While many in their hell are the evil and wicked of the world, many are innocent souls who tried to conduct their lives to the best of their knowledge and abilities. There are hundreds of millions who would have accepted the True Son of God had they been given the chance.
The trinitarian God created more souls to be condemned to hell than will ever be exalted to Heaven.
They have absolutely nothing to offer me. I see no reason to abandon my beliefs for theirs.....end
@GTCism Your statements are not founded on any fact that you offer which is none. You accuse but give no facts. the references you are talking about could only mean the Book the writer is relating to. You may want to check out the name of the church, "THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS" there is a hint for you.
Don't worry, u didn't trip me up. Just keep in mind that just because your beliefs make you feel good and warm inside doesn't mean it's true. I think that's the problem ur having. Please, search the scriptures yourself and believe them whether or not they make u feel good
my friend, Im gonna have to call it quits cause I can make someone to see the truth of the word of God when they dont have the spirit of God in them. My friend, mormonism will bring you damnation, and thats the truth. I say this in love but youre lost. I dont say it, but the word of God makes it clear. Turn to Christ alone. Ill be praying for you
@surfr01 Hell is a real place, thats why preaching the Gospel is so important. If you could answer the questions I asked you earlier. Was your God once a man or is he eternal? could he have sinned? And must i have good works and Keep the commandments to be saved? if so, How many must I keep? (keep means to not break)
@djvdiddy Where is Hell? in the ground?? How do you judge who goes to hell and who heaven? My poor African friend doesn't make it in your books so therefore i'm guessing what? Pitchforks and fire?? Pretty harsh i think, "yeah, you were a great man Gandhi, recognized the world over but unfortunately you didn't say the magic words, (i'm saved) so next stop is that fire pit:". And you mr rapist/murderer/pedo your in coz u said your saved, Come sit next to Abraham and Moses.
@djvdiddy I cannot judge you, i have not stood in your shoes so how can i know what has lead you to where you are now? Nor do i hold any ill feeling towards you. I admit some shameful joy in searching for ways to make you stumble but in essence it will do me no good. Ultimately i do not agree with what you are saying and i have found joy in this church therefore the fruit has been sweet to me. I wish you a happy life, i do not believe u will go to hell as u interpret it.
A man never hears of christ, will he go to Hell?(which baptism isnt necessary but thats another topic). Yes. For those who have not heard the Gospel, God Judges them by the light that they do have. Romans 1 tells us that we all have enough light to KNOW that God exists through creation & our conscience, & if we truly seek the 1 true God he'll FIND US! But ALL who die without Faith in God then they die in their sins. Thats why we are commanded to go to the corners of the earth and preach
@djvdiddy So the poor little Indian man who is born into poverty and has to struggle there whole life, is a good man and loves his family and would die to ensure the survival of his loved ones but has never met a representative of Jesus Christ or never seen the bible will go to Hell?!? Woah, there goes the neighborhood. I can guarantee you there are wonderful people today and millions before our time who have not had the opportunity and you would just confirm them damned. Extremist.
@surfr01 Youre making an emotionl arguement, not a biblical 1. "Oh, thats not fair." So by your view, you need to STOP telling people about Jesus now because by telling them, ur causing them to be damned!! thats an extremist! Either Jesus is the only way or He's not, period! You bellieve he's not! I wish no one would go to hell, but I wont reject truth like you do to make me feel better. But i take comfort in knowing the just judge of the universe will do what is right! Answer my questions
@djvdiddy nope, its called logical, you just don't have the answers. You know that God must be just as well as merciful and your theories should be called swiss cheese, full of holes. Your plan is flawed and not the plan of a perfect God.
@djvdiddy If Baptism isn't required then why do all Christian sect perform it? More importantly why would Jesus do such an act if he was perfect and why would he tell Nicodemus that in order to enter to have eternal life it is necessary (john 3:5)
@surfr01 Cause jesus commands it. So youre saying water is essential for salvation? So if a person lost in a desert begs God to forgive him of his sins & trusts in christ alone, then dies of dehydration a day later without being baptized, r u saying he will go to Hell? Extremest!! lol! if you say he doesnt have to then that means it is NOT essential b/c essential means "without any exceptions;must have;"
@djvdiddy So you said before it wasn't necessary, are you saying that if Jesus commands something we shouldn't do it?? And your right, that would be unfair if that were the case, but that isn't the case. I have the answer because i am part of the restored Gospel of Christ.
@surfr01 Sure you are. look, we should be baptized b/c he told us to and we love him. There should be no other motive. Jesus also said to feed the poor. Does that mean we must feed the poor to be save. Trust Christ ALONE, not Jesus and your baptism! God bless
You all realize this is all complete rubbish, based on the fabrications of a con-man who "saw" treasure in the ground via peep-stones in his hat, proclaimed (wrongly) that Indians were lost Jews, the first human lived in Missouri-also the site of the new Jerusalem, that believers could be Gods, relating to those on other planets, and that an angel brought him a disappearing book of gold plates and magic glasses. He banged other men's wives. Nice. Are you all four years old or just stupid?
The pope is the anti christ that the lord JESUS CHRIST warned us about. Paul who spoke for christ told us that the anti christ would sit in the temple of God and say he is God. Paul said the temple of God is the christian church what man sits in the christian church and says he is God. The pope and no other man does this blasphemous act. REV 17 says the anti christ and the harlot church would sit in power together on the city which lays on seven hills that is the vatican in ROME my friends
Doctrine & Covenants 45: 48 And then shall the Lord set his foot upon this mount (Olivet), and it shall cleave in twain,...
D&C 133: 18 When the Lamb shall stand upon Mount Zion,... 20 For behold, he shall stand upon the mount of Olivet,... 21 And he shall utter his voice out of Zion, and he shall speak from Jerusalem, and his voice shall be heard among all people.
LDS believe That Jesus and Lucifer are brothers in spirit. Bible says, Jesus created all things, by him and for him self. LDS believe that God has a father who has a father who has... Bible says there is no Gods besides me, there was no God before me or after me. LDS believe that God was once man and that they can become Gods too if they do all things right. There are no Crosses on Mormon temple in SLC but there are Pentagrams, why? Bible says glorify Cross! I can go on and on Wake up Mormons!
What do the trinitarians have to offer the world? Their trinitarian God created this world, provided billions of souls to occupy it, and sent a Redeemer to save those souls so they could return to Heaven. However, He made a limited effort to give those billions access to the key of redemption--the chance to know that Redeemer and ACCEPT or REJECT Him. Then He condemns those billions to hell because they didn't accept the Redeemer the majority never even heard of.
@GaryKColeman My brother, you have to read more. You are mistaking. Don't listen to me. Find for yourself. Read as many books as you can? Talk to many ppl as you can and you will find the truth if you honestly want that! I believe that God is Holy Trinity but not that certain amount of ppl gunna go to heaven or that those who never hear of Jesus not gunna go to heaven. Different ppl gunna be judged different ways. If you heard of Jesus and you rejected him Yes i believe you gunna go to hell.
If their God is omnipotent, He could have made a way for ALL to participate. Because of this I REJECT their trinitarian Jesus. I refuse to accept a God who is so uncaring, unloving, and unjust that He ignores the prayers and pleadings of the vast majority of His human creations.
This will send me to their hell, but I do this of my own free will and choice. In their hell, I will be among the billions who were never given a free will and choice.
@GaryKColeman Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgment. (James 3:1)
In other words, those who know the gospel, study it, and teach it will be under stricter judgment, since they have the ability of guide others, or lead them astray. Jesus, in the parable of the Master and the slaves (Luke 12:41-48) talked about the difference in judgment between those who know the will of God vs. those who do not know:
Jesus taught that He was "the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
The people I have talked to, say that a man must accept Jesus as his personal Savior and Redeemer to be saved. Some, but not all, say that the man must be baptised also.
@GaryKColeman No, If you heard about Jesus and read about Jesus and you open minded do not wanna accept him, thats different thing. If you never heard of Jesus, Jesus will deal with you differently, maybe he will ask you in person, idk. But no you don't have to be baptized, thief on the cross next to Jesus wasn't baptized, he just accepted and believed in Jesus, and Lord him self said that he is gunna be with him in heaven.
Are you saying that those who died without knowing of Jesus will be given a chance to accept Him or reject Him? Most Christians I have talked to, say that all must repent and accept Him in this life. Once you are dead there is no repentance and faith would be meaningless, because you would know who He really is.
Do you have any references to support your claim?
(Romans 2:15). These people are not judged for having never heard about Christ, but for the rejection of God of whom they have heard and for the disobedience to the law that is written in their hearts.
“the New Testament makes it clear that people will be judged according to the light (knowledge of God) that they have.
It is good to know that those who never heard of Jesus will not be sent to hell, but that they can obtain Heaven by the Grace of Jesus without confessing Him in this life.
@GaryKColeman Strict Calvinists say that God chooses only some people for salvation, while damning the rest to hell. However, the Bible indicates that God wants all people to be saved and none to perish.
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)
All must freely make the choice to seek after Him or reject Him.
While many in their hell are the evil and wicked of the world, many are innocent souls who tried to conduct their lives to the best of their knowledge and abilities. There are hundreds of millions who would have accepted the True Son of God had they been given the chance.
The trinitarian God created more souls to be condemned to hell than will ever be exalted to Heaven.
They have absolutely nothing to offer me. I see no reason to abandon my beliefs for theirs.
If the Bible is the word of God, why are there so many different versions and translations? Why are there so many different christian churches? Jesus only formed one church, after his name. Why, I will tell you why, because a church can be built up tax free and the preacher provides nothing but his own interpretation of the scriptures and then takes your tithings for his own gain. Its all bogus!
Hell awaits! Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
If the Book of Mormon is true, why do Indians fail to turn white when they become Mormons? (2 Nephi 30:6, prior to the 1981 revision. If Moroni devoutly practiced the Mormon Gospel, why is he an angel now rather than a God?. If Jesus was conceived as a result of a physical union between God and Mary, how was Jesus born of a virgin?. Why did the Nauvoo House not stand forever and ever?. If the original 1830 Book of Mormon was inspired why are there so many changes in recent modern copies.
@Kynophest You're not very cleaver in your response. My point was you're not letting them worship how or what they will. You define the scriptures to fit your view, as do all you christian religions. Regurgitating scriputres without a thoughtful explanatioin means little. Mormons propel the cause of Christianity the same if not better than any ofther christian denomination. They believe in Christ. They proclaim Christ as their savior. It's their religion. Let them worship in peace
@Kynophest I may not be mormon but surley I can defend their religion. In order to be a polytheist, one would have to WORSHIP more than one God. Mormons worship just the Father. But of course, the trinity worships 3 Gods so maybe they're the polytheists ;) Either way, let people worship how and what they will. It doesn't concern you
Please stop using Catholic martyred Saints and Popes in your promotional videos. These people professed the Catholic Church unto death, if you have any doubt read the early Church Fathers and/or Eusebius.
They re not to be falsely used in your sect's recruitment and/or fundraising drives.
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The whole Mormon religion is based on a complete lie perpounded by and man name Joe Smith. Joe was kicked out of six religious grops before he came up with his own view of the mormon thinking.No mormon believes this because they refuse to check out how it all started.Jesus Christ Stated in John 19:30. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost." The mormons say he lied. they are the liars
Jesus christ, I wanted to be telling the truth called i am the jesus christ presence of some miracles called climate changes doing by me six year still and live sport miracle by cricket magic logic it choose me one day life ,test life that help to adjust.so i need to speak truth "when you proclaim good news to poor then it takes with jesus christ to there on poor that's jesus entry then jesus come to proclaim everyone that he is jesus christ
The book of mormon is a book of false teachings, to see that this statement is the truth you only need to look at the end of the Bible, Revelation 22:18-9. So If any man shall add to the words of this book !!!, & so Revelation is the last book of the bible. No other book or words are to be added to it, so the quran is false, the book of mormon is false. Just to add every bit of the story in the book of mormon has been shown to be false, the last was the DNA of Indians, not one was Hebrew ?
@TrickTrolan & where do you get that impression from then ? The Book of Revelation was wrote by John some time after Jesus had died. Now that to me makes it new testament, so it does not make the New Test false at all. What planet are you living on ? Oh sorry its planet mormon, the planet where all good mormons can become Gods of there own worlds, where Jesus has a brother called Satan. By the way if you read the bible ( not the mormon one ) you will see Satan is a created being, Jesus is not
@TrickTrolan Jesus was the one who created all as Jesus is the word that the Bible talks about in Gen. God the father wanted it all done so Jesus the word made it happen, God is not one person he is 3 in one. God the father, God the son, & God the holy spirit, & not added by god the devil satan. Wake up will you read the bible, there are a few to choose KJV, Geneva, ASV these are 3 of the best. Just read any of these you are following a false gospel turn to the truth before its to late.
@cannotfindavoice You are absolutely correct. Mormonism is counterfeit christianity and a cult. Paul warns us in Galations 1:6-7: 6: I marvel that you are soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. He goes on in Galations 1:8-9. Basically they believe in another Jesus, not Jesus that sits at the right hand of God that paid for our sins on the cross.
@beatleman69 Again, I'm not a mormon but I have so much fun exploiting you so called christian's hypocrisy. Why are their so many differennt bibles? Why isn't their just one? Why are there thousands upon thousands of different Christian denominations so who has the authority to say who is and who isn't the true gospel. Mormons have just as much room to move with your own quote to turn that around right on your hypocritical head
@kayaksta There's only one Bible and that's the Holy Bible, the unfalable word of God. There are however many translations like the NKJV, NIV, ASAB etc but I feel to many translations start watering down the text of the original KJV. The true church are those who are truely born again; Romans 10:9 and 10; that have been forgiven of their sins and ask Jesus in their heart and therefore have a peronal relationship with Jesus. Moromon doctrine is contridictory to the Bible, period.
@beatleman69 Does the verse, "anyone who prolaims that Jesus is the Christ is of God" ??? Missed that one didn't you ;) You failed to answer your own conundrum. Who then has the authority to say who is the true gospel because certaintly there are so many divisions in Christianity that you all cancle each other out with claiming you're all right.
If you say that there is one bible, then WHY DON'T YOU ALL AGREE PERFECTLY? again, Mormons have as much claiim as you or any other Christian denom
@kayaksta Mormons believe their Jesus was a created being, and worked his way up to godhood to become "the savior". You can him saviour all you want but is he God? Mormons believe they'll becoms "a god" of their own plant and will be in eternal progression to godhood. They believe Lucifer and Jesus are brothers, which is a lie, Lucifer was a created being, rebelled against God, see Isaiah 14:12-19, was cast into hell. The BIble is God's Word. You can't add to or take away (Rev. 22:18, 19)
@beatleman69 You know and I know what Rev 22:18-19 means. John was on the Isle of Patmos and sent the book of Rev to the seven churches. Remember he was a prisoner? He was speaking about the "book of the revelation" refering to his own book. Plus the book of Revelation wasn't the last book written in the Bible. Research better next time.
Why am I defending the mormon's you may ask? Because they're persecuted by us so called Christians for NO GOOD REASON. They are our brothers in Christ
@kayaksta Im sorry, but what is it about mormonism that makes them our brothers in Christ? They deny the TRUE Jesus of the scriptures and make him the brother of Satan! They believe in the possibility of countless #/s of Gods. They deny the truth of Jesus' eternallity, which is absolutely ESSENTIAL!! They serve not the God of whom true Christians serve. Not trying to be mean, but truth is much more important.. God bless!
@djvdiddy I think its interesting you don't see mormons as your brothers, i believe all are brothers and as such we should treat each other that way. as family. Mormons believe Jesus came to earth and took upon him all of our sins so that if we repent and believe in that atonement we can all be saved, is there not a common belief there? If Hitler, cain and other murderous men can be children of God then why not Satan, do we not all have freedom to choose?
@surfr01 Im sorry, but if im gonna be true to the scriptures then I can't. Its one thing for you to believe they r our brother & another to show me from scripture they are. They Violate essential doctrines of the Christian faith. Even violating just 1 is damnable. They deny salvation by grace through faith alone (believing we r saved by grace AFTER all "WE" can do.) Heresy my friend. They deny the Trinity, saying Father, Son, & HS are 3 Gods. Thats NOT the God of Christianity..cont...
@djvdiddy Well if we are all children of God then surely we are all brothers and sisters, and as such, i'm sure God loves mormons as they are his children. I'm positive you have a common belief to build with Mormons, your whole focus has been on your differences. I do not believe it to be heresy when someone is sincerely trying to follow God. I do not feel Mormons lifestyles are offensive to God particularly when you compare them to others in the world today.
@surfr01 That was what I was showing you. You're making a horrible assumption. We are NOT all Children of God. We're all God's creation, NOT his children! John 1:12 But as many as RECIEVED HIM, to THEM gave he power to BECOME the sons of God, even tothem that BELIEVE on his name." U become his child once you recieve him therefore Satan CANT be a Child of God! cont....
@djvdiddy Your right, we can enjoy all the fruits of being a child of God if you follow his commandments and show your faith in Christ and his atonement. However, do not be mistaken to believe that you are not a child of God unless you say you are. No matter what we do we are his children, he created us right? Therefore he is our creator and Father, We will not enjoy that relationship however if we choose not to be with him.
@surfr01 you said "I do not believe it to be heresy when....follow God". You can b sincerely wrong! Sincerety isnt gonna save anyone. They are serving the WRONG God, thats what the Heresy is! Saying There are 3 Gods puts them out of the camp of Christianity, period! You say" I dont feel Mrmon lifestyle are offensive to God when you compare to others.." Thats such a man-centered way of looking at sin. How does God see it is the question! Does he like them earning their salvation? bible says no
@djvdiddy i'm sure i've said this before but who said anything about sincerity saving people? I said just because Mormons beliefs are different to yours doesn't mean they are heretics. why is saying mormons lifestyle isn't offensive to God man centered? The problem your having is its not djvdiddy centered. No one said anything about earning salvation but you, Don't know how you've managed to twist trying to live the commandments into earning salvation.
@surfr01 Reason I said sincerity(Of trying to follow God) wont save you is because u stated "I do not believe it to be heresy when mormons try to follow God." Sincerity means NOTHING. No, not different from my beliefs, but mormons differ from the BIBLE! They believe that The Father use to be a MAN, There are 3 SEPERATE GODS, & we are saved by grace AFTER ALL WE CAN DO(2 Neph 25:27) That's why Mormonism IS Heretical! One of us is wrong, we both cant be right....You should look at these issues
@djvdiddy Wow, you really are an extremist, your like one step behind a suicide bomber. You do need to relax a little, take a step back, your too emotional. Who are you gonna take a swipe at next, the Jews? You cannot be happy in your current state. Your like a bad football team that focuses to much on what the other team is gonna do. You say you must believe in Christ to be a child of God? Well the devils do believe they just don't follow is my point by using that scripture. u smell.
@surfr01 Well, now im convinced you cant defend your positon biblically cause now you're going for personal attacks. Which you cant defend it, its not Christian. You cant "see" my emotional state but I'll tell ya this, I WILL defend the Word of God & its truth!. I absolutely love everyone & wish all would repent and trust in Jesus alone, even you! Yes, to be a Child of God you MUST believe in Christ(John 1:12 Read it & get back to me). You're not disagreeing with me, you disagree with the bible.
@djvdiddy what personal attacks? You think saying you have an extreme position is a personal attack? or my little joke about you smelling? Then you don't know what an attack is. You said "No, not different from my beliefs, but mormons differ from the BIBLE!" So you believe different to the bible? What are your views on the jews and on muslims and buddhists? Will they go to hell?
@surfr01 Thats what im talking about. Youre ripping that verse(Jm 2:19) out to make it fit your position. Thats called eisogesis & your making a big error. The type of belief that the demons have is ascentia, which is just a mental acknowledgment, NOT SAVING FAITH. The demons don't have saving faith, therefore they are NOT God's children, just His creation who God still loves. And I dont smell, actually just got out of the shower..HAHA!
@djvdiddy well at least you got some humor, I'm not making it fit any position, the verse says that devils believe and tremble and the context of this chapter is that faith requires works and that we are not to be like the devils who know but knowing isn't enough. The point you made is you must believe in Christ to be a son of God, my point is that we all will know at some point that Jesus is the Christ even the devils so we are all children of God.
@surfr01 What? R u saying demons have the kind of faith that John 1:12 speaks of? Lets look at this logically. John 1:12 says "to as many as RECIEVED him"- Have they recieved Christ? no. "to THEM he gave the right to be called sons of God."- From this vs we see God calls the ones who recieve Him, sons of God. So we can conclude that those who HAVENT recieved him ARENT sons(and daughters) of God. Youre wrong about this my friend. Believe what it says.
@djvdiddy no i'm not saying that, are you dyslexic? You just said a whole bunch of confusing verbal dihorrea, your saying no one is created by God? Think before you answer and try to understand what Father actually means. The demons KNOW Christ is the savior, they just do not follow it and therefore are demons. Answer me this, a man grows up in Africa in a remote village, never has the opportunity to hear about God, Jesus and is not baptized, is he a child of God?
@surfr01 Dont see why its so confusing for you. I think the problem is you're stuck in your mormon termonology, believing Gods creation & Gods chrildren r the same which is false. No 1 created by God? yeah you're confused! Use logic. Bible says only those who recieve him BECOME children, so those who reject him or serve a false God are NOT his children. bible makes it clear. Ill answer your question, but you must start using the bible b/c all youre telling me so far is just your opinion....
@surfr01 Oh, and just for clarification and trying to understand you better, what is it that I said that makes you think im an extremest? Is it b/c i believe that there is only 1 God in existence, that we are saved by grace through faith alone, or is it because Im trying to show you that your belief in mormonism is not Christian. If that makes me close minded & an extremest then Im good with that. But if u call me an extremest, then you have to call my Lord Jesus an extremest as well!
@surfr01 Actually, I just proved that you do my friend. If you wouldn't mind, could you please show me 1 verse that states or makes clear that we are all God's CHILDREN. I would also like to ask you another question if thats ok? Was God a human man before he became God? And if so, could he have sinned? Also, what must i do to be saved, from your perspective?
@djvdiddy I know the verse which you are referring and like i said, we cannot enjoy the fruits of being his children if we leave him. However, it still doesn't change the fact that he literally created us and we are his literal spirit children. Yes, if we are to enjoy the blessings of being in the family or his children we must follow him. Your verse proves nothing.
@surfr01 We're his spirit chidren? Are you just making this stuff up?....Also you contradict yourself. You're claiming we are all, right now, Gods Children but after i showed you the bible says only those who believe are his children you say well we all WILL believe(which is false, at least not saving belief). So you would agree since that many DONT believe right now then they are not currently children of God, right?
@surfr01 Im sorry, but NO WHERE in the Word of God does it say anything about Satan (or any fallen angels) being able to recieve forgiveness. Biblically, a child of God is one Adopted(by Grace through faith ALONE Eph. 2 8-9) into the family of Christ. The bible has made the future of Satan CLEAR to us! Or are you saying that Satan can choose to repent making the Word of God a lie! May it never be. I'm sorry to say that those who follow Mormon doctrine are lost! i cant call them my brothers.
@djvdiddy who said anything about Satan receiving forgiveness? I understand what your saying and yes i agree that grace (i assume u mean the atonement) saves us but nonetheless we are all children of God. Satan is the son of the morning and the fallen star but to suggest because Mormons believe Satan is a rebellious son of God and therefore they are sacrilegious is extreme. Many other children of God have chosen the wrong path that doesn't mean they are not Gods children.
@surfr01 "who said anything about Satan recieving forgiveness?" Like I said to be a CHILD OF GOD you must be a believer of the true Christ, & the true triune God of Scriptures! That makes it clear that Satan is CLEARLY not, & never will be, a Child of God! U said " Many children have chosen the wrong path..." What?! Does that mean Muslims are our brothers in Christ? Friend, you need to Get in the scriptures and study this matter. Its so important!
@djvdiddy Yes it does mean Muslims are our brothers in Christ because he created them, they are his children and we are all equal. The devils do believe (james 2:19) Eventually everyone believes and it still doesn't change the fact that we are all his children, those of us who follow his teachings will receive the blessings of that and those of us who reject his message will suffer the consequences of that. He is Father of all, not just you because you feel you've figured it out.
@surfr01 Im gonna have to have you show me scripture for EVERYONE being a Child of God. Thats just NOT in bible!! We BECOME children of God by Trusting in his Son ALONE! How could you rip james 2: 19 out of context like that. Thats talking about a mental ascent(ascentia) of knowledge in God. Thats to show that eventhe demons have a HEAD KNOWLEDGE of God's existance. Doesn't mean they are God's children. My friend, please come out of mormonism and trust in Christ ALONE!
@beatleman69 Lastly, Mormons proclaim that Jesus is their Savior. That he died for their sins. They believe everything we believe beatleman. It's your arrogance that shows through by defining for them what Jesus they're allowed to worship. It's their religion! If you want to highlight doctrinal differences with them by then concluding that they're not christian, then why don't you do the same thing for all the other different Christian denominations that believe differently than you?
@kayaksta Mormons also have this doctrine: "As man is God was as God is man may become." There's only one God, and he is the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end. Lucifer wanted be be God and wanted himself above the throne of God, see Isaiah 14:12-19 and was cast into the lake fire. He deceived Eve in the garden by questioning God's Word. See Genesis 3:1-15. God took a clump of clay made man and breath a living soul into him and He gave man a free will.
@beatleman69 Save you're breath. I want to be like the savior, and I'll have all that the savior has. Does that make me a non-valid Christian. Who cares what the mormons believe in the afterlife. It's all conjecture anyway. For all we know they could be right. Bottom line, you worry yourself about doctrine which is not central to their religion. They believe in Christ and stress the importance of coming unto him to gain salvation. Just like we believe. Check your judgementalness
@kayaksta The Latter Day SAINTS are worshipping the true and biblical Jesus, and not the fake trinitarian Jesus that was thought up by MEN.
Isaiah didn't attend the council of NICEA, and he never said there were no other gods in existence. ISAIAH said JHVH is the ONLY GOD TO WORSHIP and NO OTHER.
@kayaksta LDS follow Jesus Christs Gospel. Faith repentance baptism Holy Ghost priesthood authority ordinances. Seventies missionaries two by two prophets apostles. THe NT apostles knew this too. Its you Constantine Trinitarians who Abide another gospel.
@kayaksta Satan is the only spirit, God is immortal and has a body. Immortals do not have blood. The spirit alone works the flesh, and bone. Resurrection of the dead is the reuniting of the body with the spirit.
Rapture? nowhere
Trinity? nowhere
The words are NEVER mentioned once, and the apostles NEVER taught it. Only after 4 centuries did it evolve into that because the apostles should have continued to be set apart, but they were killed off and foundation was LOST.
@kayaksta What don't you understand? The power of Satan usurped the church, and doctrines of God were changed into doctrines of men. The council of Nicea wasn't God inspired, and Constantine of rome had no authority whatsoever as Peter did. The men around Constantine were wolves, and false teachers, and they fulfilled prophecies of Isaiah by bringing confusion to men. The Greek philosophers of the 4th century completely failed to understand the scriptures for all their prudence.
@LDS4Life71 Im well aware of what your spouting. I've researched it myself. Now, do me a favor and quit replying to me when I wasn't talking to you in the first place
@Veiwyoutwice I'm gonna tell you about the gold plates I found, A small replica of these gold plates can be sent to those who believe. Cure anything from cancer to bankruptcy. You're going to see restoration, you're gonna -a see miracles in your life. The price? It's free, absolutely free! " FREE' but that promise of Godly miracles comes with a earthly request. 750 of MY followers ARE turning over all worldly goods for the privilege of joining. I invite you to do the same
Jesus is not a created being!,"in the beginning was God,and the word was with God,and the word WAS God"- bible clearly states Jesus is the word of God,and is son of God.book of mormon is false teaching which has been added to bible,yet it's teaching cannot be backed up anywhere by the bible!- the books of bible always back up same facts,book of Mormon does not!,it's not from God!
"In the days of Joseph [Smith] it was considered a great privilege to be permitted to speak to a member of Congress, but twenty-six years will not pass away before the Elders of this Church will be as much thought of as the kings on their thrones," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 40).
Gorgeous music on this video. I like the part about the gathering of Israel and missionary work as a final witness of Christ. Best artwork 4:08. This builds my testimony.
I got a question for any latterday saint members I thought that when the millenium is taking place this earth will be a terrestrial glory on the earth and that later the earth will become a Celestial Kingdom after.
So basically the 2nd coming is soon and if I don't repent before then Jesus will come down from heaven and DESTROY me... uhm... can someone like uh... FedEx me a book of mormon like really fast please? ...
@LDS4Life71 I was trying to make a point through sarcasm. How can you expect people to convert at gun point? It's the same as traditional christianity saying you need to convert or burn in hell. Neither makes sense to me.
I cannot accept God or any of his affiliates, because no matter how hard I try, I'll never accept the logic behind it all. If God cannot forgive me for that, then he is not God. Especially if I do my best to work hard, and be ethical... without prodding through fear.
@Lokazra I totally understand your thoughts. It's reasonable that people can feel that way, esp. in this day and age. I can honestly say to you with all heart He does exist, I look at parents who care and sacrifice for their children simply out of great love for their children, Now, take that caring and love and make it hundredfold. And only then you will only begin to understand how he feels for us. I commend you for your hard work and dedication, If I understand that and He def. will )
@tigergreg8 Thank you for being understanding instead of confrontational. But, just because such a thing as parents exist, does not mean that there is a god. Just because everyone says that he loves all of us as his children does not mean that parents are proof of God. For me, logic and religion will never mix, and that's fine. Thank you for the support.
@oldirishladdie That would be like planting a garden, and never tending to it, You can send others to do the work, but in the end, you yourself have to return to check it's progress and make the proper preparations )
See the Miracle of Switzerland, God and his Son on Picture taken from Google StreetView on Wallensee. That is a sin for the Beginning of the End. God living in Switzerland and his Son too. I am Chiren , that one who talk about Nostradamus and Bible. That is for you to see where CHIREN LIVING. Tomorow IN NEWSPAPER WILL everyone know WHERE CHIREN living, BUT GOD LIVING WITH HIS SON IN SWITZERLAND. The Miracle of Switzerland on 19.Oktober 2010 14:17 on Wallenlake
The Pope is the anti Christ, he changed the Sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday, he claimed God gave him this right. Daniel said the anti Christ would think to change Gods times and laws. The pope burned and tortured millions of Christians, Daniel said the anti Christ would kill Gods saints and overpower them. The pope came out of the divided Roman empire and called himself God and the vicar of Christ. Daniel said the anti Christ would exault himself as high as JESUS the anointed one.
There are many all over the world who claim the name of jesus but It is Gods choice who will enter into his kingdom. God chooses whether it is those who have prayed to him and searched him in their hearts or those who only claim him with their mouth and deny him in their lives.
As the word states though those who are fearfull and unbeleiving cannot please God. It is faith that saves you people not doubt. Your doubt is doubt in the power of God.
We will be like jesus. If it were not true Christ would not call us brothers. He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him not simply rewarding like we have from people on earth. The Spirit alone can reveal.
WARNING TO GET OUT OF THE MORMON CULT AIMING TO BECOME GODS there are warnings below in the bible to the mormon cult aiming to become GODS rather than gods children:
Revelation 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. (book of mormon was added)
Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me. (mormons aiming to be gods!) Warning to mormons.
@watchwhenyougethome Revelation 22:18,19 warns not to add or take away from the actual book of revelation. It's not ruling out future prophecy.
Revelation 11 mentions "two witnesses" who are future prophets in Jerusalem.
God set apostles and prophets in the Church:
"And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. " 1 Corinthians 12:28
@watchwhenyougethome The mormons beleive we shall be like the Lord God even as the scripture says. We shall put on the incorruptible. Also in revelation that we will inherit from him just as he inherited from God the Father. If we overcome as he has we will be rewarded just the same with eternal bodies. As well the bible clearly states what God has in store is beyond your comprehension. The spirit clearly states WE WILL BE LIKE HIM.
The Book of Mormon was written for the Lamanites. Try getting President Monson to tell you who the Lamanites are and which the old man squirm. Joseph Smith and God knows, but today's leaders are too afraid to refute DNA and archaeological (lack of) evidence to speak with the same surety. Not good for business, you know?
The Book of Mormon, the most true of any book. Yes, it is truly a book.
I have great love for all who viewed this video. LDS or not, you're all spirit children of the Most High God. Their worth is great. I'm willing to answer the questions of any who sincerely want to know what Latter-day Saints TRULY believe. Not what their friends, or "ex-mormon" sources are feeding them. They don't deserve lies, they deserve the truth. Any who asks or is interested in knowing has the right to KNOW. To come to a knowledge of the truth. He will help us help them home.
You can't really blame these people entirely for persecuting His church. Satan stirs up the hearts of man for his devilish purpose. Anger contention is not of God. Those who contend with one another are succumbing to carnal nature. Please, we are meant to be examples of the Lord Jesus Christ's teachings. These people obviously have not checked the ONLY reliable source. Their Father in Heaven. They must have a sincere heart, a sincere desire to learn for themselves. They must ask Him.
Remember, people: LDS or not, lets not bocme contentious. These people who persecute the saints of the Lord Jesus Christ obviously aren't searching for any sort of truth, they are searching for someone to fight and impose their faulty and incorrect assumptions and falsehoods about the Lord's church. It's best to remember what Christ went through when He was being persecuted. How did He react? With love, patience, long suffering, and firmness. We know the truth. God's kingdom will never fall.
Fictional people? mentioned in a fabricated story made a non-existent journey to some vague geographical area where they formed enormous nations, fought massive wars in undisclosed locations, wrote contradictory records in an unknown language and subsequently disappeared without leaving a? single shred of evidence they ever existed.
Bible:
Real people? in real locations, provable history, comprehensive archaeological support.
We can visit Jerusalem. Mormons can't find Bountiful
Imagine being in Joseph Smiths' shoes, the night a mob of men grab you, and put a gun to your head and tell you that if you don't deny the things you proclaim then a bullet will end your life tonight!
What did Joseph do???? He said HE WOULD NOT DO THAT, and risked being shot that very night, but they let him live alittle longer.
Poor unchristlike people that keep spreading lies on youtube. You are going to be soo sorry. You are not born again, and you have not entered the gate.
Fictional people? mentioned in a fabricated story made a non-existent journey to some vague geographical area where they formed enormous nations, fought massive wars in undisclosed locations, wrote contradictory records in an unknown language and subsequently disappeared without leaving a? single shred of evidence they ever existed.
Bible:
Real people? in real locations, provable history, comprehensive archaeological support.
We can visit Jerusalem. Mormons can't find Bountiful
Fictional people? mentioned in a fabricated story made a non-existent journey to some vague geographical area where they formed enormous nations, fought massive wars in undisclosed locations, wrote contradictory records in an unknown language and subsequently disappeared without leaving a? single shred of evidence they ever existed.
Bible:
Real people? in real locations, provable history, comprehensive archaeological support.
We can visit Jerusalem. Mormons can't find Bountiful
You shall know them by their fruits. A bitter fountain can not bring forth good water. Neither can a good fountain bring forth bitter water. We have been given all sources needed to gain such a know such things. And as for me, a 17 year old boy, and future missionary for the Restored Church, I have learned for myself. He lives. God the Father lives. and You CAN know, if only you have a sincere heart. He loves you, and He will bless you for your efforts to seek His Kingdom. The true Church.
To all those who persecute the saints. You have all been prophesied of. Your feeble accusations and sourceless criticisms of the Prophet Joseph Smith actually strengthen my testimony of the truthfulness and God-given accurate foretelling of the Latter Days in the Bible and the Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ. But, I would exhort you: Read the Book of Mormon and the Bible with a sincere heart and a desire to know of it's truthfulness, and as sure as God liveth, He will witness
@LightGnolaum oh becaus the bible on it's own is so weak we need to read a secOND bible?okay and shwo us 38 "vast" ancient cities...eveidence from sites of massive battles that take placce in your boook..etc etc ..it is obviously a fabrication..even NON religious sources detail events from the bible..did jesus shooot twomen dead witha gun whielin jailawaiting ARSON..your "prophet" was a con artist who wanted an excuse 2 have aharem..why would god command someone to commit adultery?
Harden not your hearts. Ye shall know the saints by their fruits. The Dispensation of the fullness of Times has surely commenced by the Restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on the Earth. The veil is beginning to burst. But remember, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ shall come as a thief in the night, we know not. We know what to watch for, and prophecies of Old are surely being fulfilled. All of you that persecute the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, read the Book of Mormon.
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IAMJESUSmovie 3 days ago
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Jesus has already come. I know.
The other day I was out walking on a deserted road.
Then I felt something wet hitting me on the head.
It was Jesus cum, he was coming from heaven. I opened my mouth hoping to catch some jesus juice but the miracle didnt occur again.
I told this story to a friend and he insists on always using an umbrella when he goes outside out of fear of getting zombie jew juice on his head!
The1VoiceOfReason 5 days ago
The truth is Jesus has already returned and fullfilled all prophecy and the scripture says so!. The last enemy to be defeated by Jesus appearing is death (Rev). This is what Paul and all the first century believers were looking forward to (1 Corinthians 15). Did Jesus keep his promise to Paul and all the other Christians??.... turn to 2 Timothy 1:8-10 and find the answer!... now who are u going to believe, Gods word the gospel or your lying pastors and ministers??
SwordOfTheSpirit25 3 weeks ago
Acts 1:11 - YE MEN OF GALILEE, why stand YE gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus which is taken up from YOU into heaven, so shall come in like manner as YE have seen him go... this verse is talking addressed to the apostles hearing it, not people today. Are Christians today Men of Galilee.
SwordOfTheSpirit25 3 weeks ago
Hey DieOrBlink. You will regret those words and kneel to Him. Repent now, as I must also do, or face the Pit of Tears(H311). Jesus loves you, despite your terrible ways.
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StepsToYHWH 3 months ago
fuck jesus hes not real!!!1!!
DieOrBlink 4 months ago
I cannot wait.
To see him coming down, so gracefully, and being taken up, into heaven.
cybergem10 5 months ago 2
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Obama and other kings of the earth practice secret combinations, even the same one passed from the ancients, which is to KILL FOR GAIN. Even a follower of the devil, who taught this secret to Cain, who was a murderer from the beginning! we go to iraq,afghanistan, libya in the name of TERROR but we are the guys on THEIR lands with the GUNS! We are MURDERERS, God will not allow the blood of the saints and martyrs to cry upon him without vengeance forever....
ConvinceTheWorld 5 months ago
"I would that ye should come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel, and partake of his salvation, and the power of his redemption. Yea, come unto him, and offer your whole souls as an offering unto him, and continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end; and as the Lord liveth ye will be saved." Joseph Smith Jr.
scottwins2 6 months ago
JESUS IS COMING SOON EVERY TOUNGE SHALL CONFESS EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW THAT HE IS LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS!!!
rafyraf100 6 months ago
@rafyraf100
SuperBelloch 2 months ago
@SuperBelloch its scripture !!!
rafyraf100 2 months ago
What song is that?
JWright11794 7 months ago
@JWright11794
Come Thou Font of Every Blessing
kghawkes 2 months ago
Christ will never return. He told me. he said..... NEVER AGAIN.
tallliza 7 months ago
Mormoms like the Roman Catholic Church have added to or taking from that which Jesus gave to the world in order that we may prepare for salvation, namely the gospels. Therefore they do not follow Christ but, rather that which they added to or subtracted from, which includes paganistic beliefs/rituals and false doctrines, they are not true Christians.
GTCism 7 months ago
@GTCism
What do the trinitarians have to offer the world? Their trinitarian God created this world, provided billions of souls to occupy it, and sent a Redeemer to save those souls so they could return to Heaven. However, He made a limited effort to give those billions access to the key of redemption--the chance to know that Redeemer and ACCEPT or REJECT Him. Then He condemns those billions to hell because they didn't accept the Redeemer the majority never even heard of.....cont...
GaryKColeman 7 months ago
@GTCism
If their God is omnipotent, He could have made a way for ALL to participate. Because of this I REJECT their trinitarian Jesus. I refuse to accept a God who is so uncaring, unloving, and unjust that He ignores the prayers and pleadings of the vast majority of His human creations.
This will send me to their hell, but I do this of my own free will and choice. In their hell, I will be among the billions who were never given a free will and choice.....cont...
GaryKColeman 7 months ago
@GTCism
While many in their hell are the evil and wicked of the world, many are innocent souls who tried to conduct their lives to the best of their knowledge and abilities. There are hundreds of millions who would have accepted the True Son of God had they been given the chance.
The trinitarian God created more souls to be condemned to hell than will ever be exalted to Heaven.
They have absolutely nothing to offer me. I see no reason to abandon my beliefs for theirs.....end
GaryKColeman 7 months ago
@GTCism Your statements are not founded on any fact that you offer which is none. You accuse but give no facts. the references you are talking about could only mean the Book the writer is relating to. You may want to check out the name of the church, "THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS" there is a hint for you.
scottwins2 6 months ago 2
what is that music called that is playing in the background?
jack23371 7 months ago
@jack23371 Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing, sung by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.
batterdown 7 months ago
Don't worry, u didn't trip me up. Just keep in mind that just because your beliefs make you feel good and warm inside doesn't mean it's true. I think that's the problem ur having. Please, search the scriptures yourself and believe them whether or not they make u feel good
djvdiddy 8 months ago
my friend, Im gonna have to call it quits cause I can make someone to see the truth of the word of God when they dont have the spirit of God in them. My friend, mormonism will bring you damnation, and thats the truth. I say this in love but youre lost. I dont say it, but the word of God makes it clear. Turn to Christ alone. Ill be praying for you
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@surfr01 Hell is a real place, thats why preaching the Gospel is so important. If you could answer the questions I asked you earlier. Was your God once a man or is he eternal? could he have sinned? And must i have good works and Keep the commandments to be saved? if so, How many must I keep? (keep means to not break)
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy Where is Hell? in the ground?? How do you judge who goes to hell and who heaven? My poor African friend doesn't make it in your books so therefore i'm guessing what? Pitchforks and fire?? Pretty harsh i think, "yeah, you were a great man Gandhi, recognized the world over but unfortunately you didn't say the magic words, (i'm saved) so next stop is that fire pit:". And you mr rapist/murderer/pedo your in coz u said your saved, Come sit next to Abraham and Moses.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 not my books, but Gods. Tell God you think he's unfair, dont complain to me. The God you serve isnt perfectly just and holy! mine is!
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy I cannot judge you, i have not stood in your shoes so how can i know what has lead you to where you are now? Nor do i hold any ill feeling towards you. I admit some shameful joy in searching for ways to make you stumble but in essence it will do me no good. Ultimately i do not agree with what you are saying and i have found joy in this church therefore the fruit has been sweet to me. I wish you a happy life, i do not believe u will go to hell as u interpret it.
surfr01 8 months ago
A man never hears of christ, will he go to Hell?(which baptism isnt necessary but thats another topic). Yes. For those who have not heard the Gospel, God Judges them by the light that they do have. Romans 1 tells us that we all have enough light to KNOW that God exists through creation & our conscience, & if we truly seek the 1 true God he'll FIND US! But ALL who die without Faith in God then they die in their sins. Thats why we are commanded to go to the corners of the earth and preach
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy So the poor little Indian man who is born into poverty and has to struggle there whole life, is a good man and loves his family and would die to ensure the survival of his loved ones but has never met a representative of Jesus Christ or never seen the bible will go to Hell?!? Woah, there goes the neighborhood. I can guarantee you there are wonderful people today and millions before our time who have not had the opportunity and you would just confirm them damned. Extremist.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Youre making an emotionl arguement, not a biblical 1. "Oh, thats not fair." So by your view, you need to STOP telling people about Jesus now because by telling them, ur causing them to be damned!! thats an extremist! Either Jesus is the only way or He's not, period! You bellieve he's not! I wish no one would go to hell, but I wont reject truth like you do to make me feel better. But i take comfort in knowing the just judge of the universe will do what is right! Answer my questions
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy nope, its called logical, you just don't have the answers. You know that God must be just as well as merciful and your theories should be called swiss cheese, full of holes. Your plan is flawed and not the plan of a perfect God.
surfr01 8 months ago
@djvdiddy If Baptism isn't required then why do all Christian sect perform it? More importantly why would Jesus do such an act if he was perfect and why would he tell Nicodemus that in order to enter to have eternal life it is necessary (john 3:5)
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Cause jesus commands it. So youre saying water is essential for salvation? So if a person lost in a desert begs God to forgive him of his sins & trusts in christ alone, then dies of dehydration a day later without being baptized, r u saying he will go to Hell? Extremest!! lol! if you say he doesnt have to then that means it is NOT essential b/c essential means "without any exceptions;must have;"
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy So you said before it wasn't necessary, are you saying that if Jesus commands something we shouldn't do it?? And your right, that would be unfair if that were the case, but that isn't the case. I have the answer because i am part of the restored Gospel of Christ.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Sure you are. look, we should be baptized b/c he told us to and we love him. There should be no other motive. Jesus also said to feed the poor. Does that mean we must feed the poor to be save. Trust Christ ALONE, not Jesus and your baptism! God bless
djvdiddy 8 months ago
You all realize this is all complete rubbish, based on the fabrications of a con-man who "saw" treasure in the ground via peep-stones in his hat, proclaimed (wrongly) that Indians were lost Jews, the first human lived in Missouri-also the site of the new Jerusalem, that believers could be Gods, relating to those on other planets, and that an angel brought him a disappearing book of gold plates and magic glasses. He banged other men's wives. Nice. Are you all four years old or just stupid?
PuddlesMcNiggley 8 months ago
The second coming of jesus already happened 3 days after he died, why do people keep waiting for him to come back a 3rd time?
bw2182 8 months ago
1:38 Money shot
rtardbox 8 months ago
very nice...
rtardbox 8 months ago
The pope is the anti christ that the lord JESUS CHRIST warned us about. Paul who spoke for christ told us that the anti christ would sit in the temple of God and say he is God. Paul said the temple of God is the christian church what man sits in the christian church and says he is God. The pope and no other man does this blasphemous act. REV 17 says the anti christ and the harlot church would sit in power together on the city which lays on seven hills that is the vatican in ROME my friends
vladimirkovalski 8 months ago
Funny Mormons don't believe Jesus will return to jerusleum but in missouri just In case you didn't know that
bobbyraejohnson 8 months ago
@bobbyraejohnson
You need a more accurate source of information.
Doctrine & Covenants 45: 48 And then shall the Lord set his foot upon this mount (Olivet), and it shall cleave in twain,...
D&C 133: 18 When the Lamb shall stand upon Mount Zion,... 20 For behold, he shall stand upon the mount of Olivet,... 21 And he shall utter his voice out of Zion, and he shall speak from Jerusalem, and his voice shall be heard among all people.
GaryKColeman 8 months ago
LDS believe That Jesus and Lucifer are brothers in spirit. Bible says, Jesus created all things, by him and for him self. LDS believe that God has a father who has a father who has... Bible says there is no Gods besides me, there was no God before me or after me. LDS believe that God was once man and that they can become Gods too if they do all things right. There are no Crosses on Mormon temple in SLC but there are Pentagrams, why? Bible says glorify Cross! I can go on and on Wake up Mormons!
sapiigor 9 months ago
@sapiigor
What do the trinitarians have to offer the world? Their trinitarian God created this world, provided billions of souls to occupy it, and sent a Redeemer to save those souls so they could return to Heaven. However, He made a limited effort to give those billions access to the key of redemption--the chance to know that Redeemer and ACCEPT or REJECT Him. Then He condemns those billions to hell because they didn't accept the Redeemer the majority never even heard of.
GaryKColeman 8 months ago
@GaryKColeman My brother, you have to read more. You are mistaking. Don't listen to me. Find for yourself. Read as many books as you can? Talk to many ppl as you can and you will find the truth if you honestly want that! I believe that God is Holy Trinity but not that certain amount of ppl gunna go to heaven or that those who never hear of Jesus not gunna go to heaven. Different ppl gunna be judged different ways. If you heard of Jesus and you rejected him Yes i believe you gunna go to hell.
sapiigor 8 months ago
@sapiigor
If their God is omnipotent, He could have made a way for ALL to participate. Because of this I REJECT their trinitarian Jesus. I refuse to accept a God who is so uncaring, unloving, and unjust that He ignores the prayers and pleadings of the vast majority of His human creations.
This will send me to their hell, but I do this of my own free will and choice. In their hell, I will be among the billions who were never given a free will and choice.
GaryKColeman 8 months ago
@GaryKColeman Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgment. (James 3:1)
In other words, those who know the gospel, study it, and teach it will be under stricter judgment, since they have the ability of guide others, or lead them astray. Jesus, in the parable of the Master and the slaves (Luke 12:41-48) talked about the difference in judgment between those who know the will of God vs. those who do not know:
sapiigor 8 months ago
@sapiigor
Jesus taught that He was "the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
The people I have talked to, say that a man must accept Jesus as his personal Savior and Redeemer to be saved. Some, but not all, say that the man must be baptised also.
Will all be judged according to this standard?
GaryKColeman 8 months ago
@GaryKColeman No, If you heard about Jesus and read about Jesus and you open minded do not wanna accept him, thats different thing. If you never heard of Jesus, Jesus will deal with you differently, maybe he will ask you in person, idk. But no you don't have to be baptized, thief on the cross next to Jesus wasn't baptized, he just accepted and believed in Jesus, and Lord him self said that he is gunna be with him in heaven.
sapiigor 8 months ago
@sapiigor
Are you saying that those who died without knowing of Jesus will be given a chance to accept Him or reject Him? Most Christians I have talked to, say that all must repent and accept Him in this life. Once you are dead there is no repentance and faith would be meaningless, because you would know who He really is.
Do you have any references to support your claim?
GaryKColeman 8 months ago
@GaryKColeman "If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin."
-John 15:22
(Romans 2:15). These people are not judged for having never heard about Christ, but for the rejection of God of whom they have heard and for the disobedience to the law that is written in their hearts.
“the New Testament makes it clear that people will be judged according to the light (knowledge of God) that they have.
sapiigor 8 months ago
@sapiigor
It is good to know that those who never heard of Jesus will not be sent to hell, but that they can obtain Heaven by the Grace of Jesus without confessing Him in this life.
GaryKColeman 8 months ago
@GaryKColeman Strict Calvinists say that God chooses only some people for salvation, while damning the rest to hell. However, the Bible indicates that God wants all people to be saved and none to perish.
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)
All must freely make the choice to seek after Him or reject Him.
sapiigor 8 months ago
@sapiigor
While many in their hell are the evil and wicked of the world, many are innocent souls who tried to conduct their lives to the best of their knowledge and abilities. There are hundreds of millions who would have accepted the True Son of God had they been given the chance.
The trinitarian God created more souls to be condemned to hell than will ever be exalted to Heaven.
They have absolutely nothing to offer me. I see no reason to abandon my beliefs for theirs.
GaryKColeman 8 months ago
Watch the video for "Jesus Christ in Chile (Signs of the Second Coming)"
superleonidas 9 months ago
If the Bible is the word of God, why are there so many different versions and translations? Why are there so many different christian churches? Jesus only formed one church, after his name. Why, I will tell you why, because a church can be built up tax free and the preacher provides nothing but his own interpretation of the scriptures and then takes your tithings for his own gain. Its all bogus!
audrapriscilla 9 months ago
Hell awaits! Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Romans1014Preach 9 months ago
If the Book of Mormon is true, why do Indians fail to turn white when they become Mormons? (2 Nephi 30:6, prior to the 1981 revision. If Moroni devoutly practiced the Mormon Gospel, why is he an angel now rather than a God?. If Jesus was conceived as a result of a physical union between God and Mary, how was Jesus born of a virgin?. Why did the Nauvoo House not stand forever and ever?. If the original 1830 Book of Mormon was inspired why are there so many changes in recent modern copies.
cannotfindavoice 9 months ago
go to JESUSLION2011 to see JESUS & LION of JUDAH Just Appears in USA.this is NO FUCKING AROUND,
JESUSLION2011 9 months ago
Thank you for the moving video
I have been thinking about the fig tree-
inspiring:
The fig plant is yet tender
With buds for its leaves
Promising, summer is nigh, slender
Providing signs everyone sees
retiretoheber 9 months ago
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How we know that god or Jesus had nothing to do with the creation of the bible.
SharedViewsNews 10 months ago
fuck religion
thumbs this motherfucker up if you wanna see how much shit i get for sayin that
Marksman865 10 months ago
@Kynophest You're not very cleaver in your response. My point was you're not letting them worship how or what they will. You define the scriptures to fit your view, as do all you christian religions. Regurgitating scriputres without a thoughtful explanatioin means little. Mormons propel the cause of Christianity the same if not better than any ofther christian denomination. They believe in Christ. They proclaim Christ as their savior. It's their religion. Let them worship in peace
kayaksta 10 months ago
@Kynophest I may not be mormon but surley I can defend their religion. In order to be a polytheist, one would have to WORSHIP more than one God. Mormons worship just the Father. But of course, the trinity worships 3 Gods so maybe they're the polytheists ;) Either way, let people worship how and what they will. It doesn't concern you
kayaksta 10 months ago
Please stop using Catholic martyred Saints and Popes in your promotional videos. These people professed the Catholic Church unto death, if you have any doubt read the early Church Fathers and/or Eusebius.
They re not to be falsely used in your sect's recruitment and/or fundraising drives.
GaryCheevers 1 year ago
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onstageagain 1 year ago
The whole Mormon religion is based on a complete lie perpounded by and man name Joe Smith. Joe was kicked out of six religious grops before he came up with his own view of the mormon thinking.No mormon believes this because they refuse to check out how it all started.Jesus Christ Stated in John 19:30. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost." The mormons say he lied. they are the liars
rebeliron 1 year ago
Jesus christ, I wanted to be telling the truth called i am the jesus christ presence of some miracles called climate changes doing by me six year still and live sport miracle by cricket magic logic it choose me one day life ,test life that help to adjust.so i need to speak truth "when you proclaim good news to poor then it takes with jesus christ to there on poor that's jesus entry then jesus come to proclaim everyone that he is jesus christ
ragurammunikosal81 1 year ago
With the sarcastic overtones in your reply you lose all credibilty in any point you were seemingly trying to share. Take care and God bless
TrickTrolan 1 year ago 3
more like LSD saints lol what are you guys smoking?
Marksman865 1 year ago
@Marksman865 You got that right! Satan has them all deceived...sad.
beatleman69 10 months ago
The book of mormon is a book of false teachings, to see that this statement is the truth you only need to look at the end of the Bible, Revelation 22:18-9. So If any man shall add to the words of this book !!!, & so Revelation is the last book of the bible. No other book or words are to be added to it, so the quran is false, the book of mormon is false. Just to add every bit of the story in the book of mormon has been shown to be false, the last was the DNA of Indians, not one was Hebrew ?
cannotfindavoice 1 year ago
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TrickTrolan 1 year ago
@TrickTrolan & where do you get that impression from then ? The Book of Revelation was wrote by John some time after Jesus had died. Now that to me makes it new testament, so it does not make the New Test false at all. What planet are you living on ? Oh sorry its planet mormon, the planet where all good mormons can become Gods of there own worlds, where Jesus has a brother called Satan. By the way if you read the bible ( not the mormon one ) you will see Satan is a created being, Jesus is not
cannotfindavoice 1 year ago
@TrickTrolan Jesus was the one who created all as Jesus is the word that the Bible talks about in Gen. God the father wanted it all done so Jesus the word made it happen, God is not one person he is 3 in one. God the father, God the son, & God the holy spirit, & not added by god the devil satan. Wake up will you read the bible, there are a few to choose KJV, Geneva, ASV these are 3 of the best. Just read any of these you are following a false gospel turn to the truth before its to late.
cannotfindavoice 1 year ago
@cannotfindavoice You are absolutely correct. Mormonism is counterfeit christianity and a cult. Paul warns us in Galations 1:6-7: 6: I marvel that you are soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. He goes on in Galations 1:8-9. Basically they believe in another Jesus, not Jesus that sits at the right hand of God that paid for our sins on the cross.
beatleman69 1 year ago
@beatleman69 Again, I'm not a mormon but I have so much fun exploiting you so called christian's hypocrisy. Why are their so many differennt bibles? Why isn't their just one? Why are there thousands upon thousands of different Christian denominations so who has the authority to say who is and who isn't the true gospel. Mormons have just as much room to move with your own quote to turn that around right on your hypocritical head
kayaksta 10 months ago
@kayaksta There's only one Bible and that's the Holy Bible, the unfalable word of God. There are however many translations like the NKJV, NIV, ASAB etc but I feel to many translations start watering down the text of the original KJV. The true church are those who are truely born again; Romans 10:9 and 10; that have been forgiven of their sins and ask Jesus in their heart and therefore have a peronal relationship with Jesus. Moromon doctrine is contridictory to the Bible, period.
beatleman69 10 months ago
@beatleman69 Does the verse, "anyone who prolaims that Jesus is the Christ is of God" ??? Missed that one didn't you ;) You failed to answer your own conundrum. Who then has the authority to say who is the true gospel because certaintly there are so many divisions in Christianity that you all cancle each other out with claiming you're all right.
If you say that there is one bible, then WHY DON'T YOU ALL AGREE PERFECTLY? again, Mormons have as much claiim as you or any other Christian denom
kayaksta 10 months ago
@kayaksta Mormons believe their Jesus was a created being, and worked his way up to godhood to become "the savior". You can him saviour all you want but is he God? Mormons believe they'll becoms "a god" of their own plant and will be in eternal progression to godhood. They believe Lucifer and Jesus are brothers, which is a lie, Lucifer was a created being, rebelled against God, see Isaiah 14:12-19, was cast into hell. The BIble is God's Word. You can't add to or take away (Rev. 22:18, 19)
beatleman69 10 months ago
@beatleman69 You know and I know what Rev 22:18-19 means. John was on the Isle of Patmos and sent the book of Rev to the seven churches. Remember he was a prisoner? He was speaking about the "book of the revelation" refering to his own book. Plus the book of Revelation wasn't the last book written in the Bible. Research better next time.
Why am I defending the mormon's you may ask? Because they're persecuted by us so called Christians for NO GOOD REASON. They are our brothers in Christ
kayaksta 10 months ago 6
@kayaksta
Are "brothers in Christ" worshiping a different Jesus?
Certainly they are
They worship a Jesus and a God who was once a man. Their God has sex. Their Jesus is Lucifers brother. Their goal is to become gods themselves.
There is GREAT reason for contending for the faith and speaking out against their doctrine.
Don't persecute the people, but, do expose their false teaching.
I cannot be a sister in Christ with a person who thinks that Satan and Jesus were brothers.
That IS heresy!
angelcollector22 10 months ago
@kayaksta Im sorry, but what is it about mormonism that makes them our brothers in Christ? They deny the TRUE Jesus of the scriptures and make him the brother of Satan! They believe in the possibility of countless #/s of Gods. They deny the truth of Jesus' eternallity, which is absolutely ESSENTIAL!! They serve not the God of whom true Christians serve. Not trying to be mean, but truth is much more important.. God bless!
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy I think its interesting you don't see mormons as your brothers, i believe all are brothers and as such we should treat each other that way. as family. Mormons believe Jesus came to earth and took upon him all of our sins so that if we repent and believe in that atonement we can all be saved, is there not a common belief there? If Hitler, cain and other murderous men can be children of God then why not Satan, do we not all have freedom to choose?
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Im sorry, but if im gonna be true to the scriptures then I can't. Its one thing for you to believe they r our brother & another to show me from scripture they are. They Violate essential doctrines of the Christian faith. Even violating just 1 is damnable. They deny salvation by grace through faith alone (believing we r saved by grace AFTER all "WE" can do.) Heresy my friend. They deny the Trinity, saying Father, Son, & HS are 3 Gods. Thats NOT the God of Christianity..cont...
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy Well if we are all children of God then surely we are all brothers and sisters, and as such, i'm sure God loves mormons as they are his children. I'm positive you have a common belief to build with Mormons, your whole focus has been on your differences. I do not believe it to be heresy when someone is sincerely trying to follow God. I do not feel Mormons lifestyles are offensive to God particularly when you compare them to others in the world today.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 That was what I was showing you. You're making a horrible assumption. We are NOT all Children of God. We're all God's creation, NOT his children! John 1:12 But as many as RECIEVED HIM, to THEM gave he power to BECOME the sons of God, even tothem that BELIEVE on his name." U become his child once you recieve him therefore Satan CANT be a Child of God! cont....
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy Your right, we can enjoy all the fruits of being a child of God if you follow his commandments and show your faith in Christ and his atonement. However, do not be mistaken to believe that you are not a child of God unless you say you are. No matter what we do we are his children, he created us right? Therefore he is our creator and Father, We will not enjoy that relationship however if we choose not to be with him.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 you said "I do not believe it to be heresy when....follow God". You can b sincerely wrong! Sincerety isnt gonna save anyone. They are serving the WRONG God, thats what the Heresy is! Saying There are 3 Gods puts them out of the camp of Christianity, period! You say" I dont feel Mrmon lifestyle are offensive to God when you compare to others.." Thats such a man-centered way of looking at sin. How does God see it is the question! Does he like them earning their salvation? bible says no
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy i'm sure i've said this before but who said anything about sincerity saving people? I said just because Mormons beliefs are different to yours doesn't mean they are heretics. why is saying mormons lifestyle isn't offensive to God man centered? The problem your having is its not djvdiddy centered. No one said anything about earning salvation but you, Don't know how you've managed to twist trying to live the commandments into earning salvation.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Reason I said sincerity(Of trying to follow God) wont save you is because u stated "I do not believe it to be heresy when mormons try to follow God." Sincerity means NOTHING. No, not different from my beliefs, but mormons differ from the BIBLE! They believe that The Father use to be a MAN, There are 3 SEPERATE GODS, & we are saved by grace AFTER ALL WE CAN DO(2 Neph 25:27) That's why Mormonism IS Heretical! One of us is wrong, we both cant be right....You should look at these issues
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy Wow, you really are an extremist, your like one step behind a suicide bomber. You do need to relax a little, take a step back, your too emotional. Who are you gonna take a swipe at next, the Jews? You cannot be happy in your current state. Your like a bad football team that focuses to much on what the other team is gonna do. You say you must believe in Christ to be a child of God? Well the devils do believe they just don't follow is my point by using that scripture. u smell.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Well, now im convinced you cant defend your positon biblically cause now you're going for personal attacks. Which you cant defend it, its not Christian. You cant "see" my emotional state but I'll tell ya this, I WILL defend the Word of God & its truth!. I absolutely love everyone & wish all would repent and trust in Jesus alone, even you! Yes, to be a Child of God you MUST believe in Christ(John 1:12 Read it & get back to me). You're not disagreeing with me, you disagree with the bible.
djvdiddy 8 months ago
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@djvdiddy what personal attacks? You think saying you have an extreme position is a personal attack? or my little joke about you smelling? Then you don't know what an attack is. You said "No, not different from my beliefs, but mormons differ from the BIBLE!" So you believe different to the bible? What are your views on the jews and on muslims and buddhists? Will they go to hell?
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Thats what im talking about. Youre ripping that verse(Jm 2:19) out to make it fit your position. Thats called eisogesis & your making a big error. The type of belief that the demons have is ascentia, which is just a mental acknowledgment, NOT SAVING FAITH. The demons don't have saving faith, therefore they are NOT God's children, just His creation who God still loves. And I dont smell, actually just got out of the shower..HAHA!
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy well at least you got some humor, I'm not making it fit any position, the verse says that devils believe and tremble and the context of this chapter is that faith requires works and that we are not to be like the devils who know but knowing isn't enough. The point you made is you must believe in Christ to be a son of God, my point is that we all will know at some point that Jesus is the Christ even the devils so we are all children of God.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 What? R u saying demons have the kind of faith that John 1:12 speaks of? Lets look at this logically. John 1:12 says "to as many as RECIEVED him"- Have they recieved Christ? no. "to THEM he gave the right to be called sons of God."- From this vs we see God calls the ones who recieve Him, sons of God. So we can conclude that those who HAVENT recieved him ARENT sons(and daughters) of God. Youre wrong about this my friend. Believe what it says.
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy no i'm not saying that, are you dyslexic? You just said a whole bunch of confusing verbal dihorrea, your saying no one is created by God? Think before you answer and try to understand what Father actually means. The demons KNOW Christ is the savior, they just do not follow it and therefore are demons. Answer me this, a man grows up in Africa in a remote village, never has the opportunity to hear about God, Jesus and is not baptized, is he a child of God?
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Dont see why its so confusing for you. I think the problem is you're stuck in your mormon termonology, believing Gods creation & Gods chrildren r the same which is false. No 1 created by God? yeah you're confused! Use logic. Bible says only those who recieve him BECOME children, so those who reject him or serve a false God are NOT his children. bible makes it clear. Ill answer your question, but you must start using the bible b/c all youre telling me so far is just your opinion....
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@surfr01 Oh, and just for clarification and trying to understand you better, what is it that I said that makes you think im an extremest? Is it b/c i believe that there is only 1 God in existence, that we are saved by grace through faith alone, or is it because Im trying to show you that your belief in mormonism is not Christian. If that makes me close minded & an extremest then Im good with that. But if u call me an extremest, then you have to call my Lord Jesus an extremest as well!
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy So your beliefs are different then the Bible?
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Actually, I just proved that you do my friend. If you wouldn't mind, could you please show me 1 verse that states or makes clear that we are all God's CHILDREN. I would also like to ask you another question if thats ok? Was God a human man before he became God? And if so, could he have sinned? Also, what must i do to be saved, from your perspective?
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy I know the verse which you are referring and like i said, we cannot enjoy the fruits of being his children if we leave him. However, it still doesn't change the fact that he literally created us and we are his literal spirit children. Yes, if we are to enjoy the blessings of being in the family or his children we must follow him. Your verse proves nothing.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 We're his spirit chidren? Are you just making this stuff up?....Also you contradict yourself. You're claiming we are all, right now, Gods Children but after i showed you the bible says only those who believe are his children you say well we all WILL believe(which is false, at least not saving belief). So you would agree since that many DONT believe right now then they are not currently children of God, right?
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@surfr01 Im sorry, but NO WHERE in the Word of God does it say anything about Satan (or any fallen angels) being able to recieve forgiveness. Biblically, a child of God is one Adopted(by Grace through faith ALONE Eph. 2 8-9) into the family of Christ. The bible has made the future of Satan CLEAR to us! Or are you saying that Satan can choose to repent making the Word of God a lie! May it never be. I'm sorry to say that those who follow Mormon doctrine are lost! i cant call them my brothers.
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy who said anything about Satan receiving forgiveness? I understand what your saying and yes i agree that grace (i assume u mean the atonement) saves us but nonetheless we are all children of God. Satan is the son of the morning and the fallen star but to suggest because Mormons believe Satan is a rebellious son of God and therefore they are sacrilegious is extreme. Many other children of God have chosen the wrong path that doesn't mean they are not Gods children.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 "who said anything about Satan recieving forgiveness?" Like I said to be a CHILD OF GOD you must be a believer of the true Christ, & the true triune God of Scriptures! That makes it clear that Satan is CLEARLY not, & never will be, a Child of God! U said " Many children have chosen the wrong path..." What?! Does that mean Muslims are our brothers in Christ? Friend, you need to Get in the scriptures and study this matter. Its so important!
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@djvdiddy Yes it does mean Muslims are our brothers in Christ because he created them, they are his children and we are all equal. The devils do believe (james 2:19) Eventually everyone believes and it still doesn't change the fact that we are all his children, those of us who follow his teachings will receive the blessings of that and those of us who reject his message will suffer the consequences of that. He is Father of all, not just you because you feel you've figured it out.
surfr01 8 months ago
@surfr01 Im gonna have to have you show me scripture for EVERYONE being a Child of God. Thats just NOT in bible!! We BECOME children of God by Trusting in his Son ALONE! How could you rip james 2: 19 out of context like that. Thats talking about a mental ascent(ascentia) of knowledge in God. Thats to show that eventhe demons have a HEAD KNOWLEDGE of God's existance. Doesn't mean they are God's children. My friend, please come out of mormonism and trust in Christ ALONE!
djvdiddy 8 months ago
@beatleman69 Lastly, Mormons proclaim that Jesus is their Savior. That he died for their sins. They believe everything we believe beatleman. It's your arrogance that shows through by defining for them what Jesus they're allowed to worship. It's their religion! If you want to highlight doctrinal differences with them by then concluding that they're not christian, then why don't you do the same thing for all the other different Christian denominations that believe differently than you?
kayaksta 10 months ago
@kayaksta Mormons also have this doctrine: "As man is God was as God is man may become." There's only one God, and he is the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end. Lucifer wanted be be God and wanted himself above the throne of God, see Isaiah 14:12-19 and was cast into the lake fire. He deceived Eve in the garden by questioning God's Word. See Genesis 3:1-15. God took a clump of clay made man and breath a living soul into him and He gave man a free will.
beatleman69 10 months ago
@beatleman69 Save you're breath. I want to be like the savior, and I'll have all that the savior has. Does that make me a non-valid Christian. Who cares what the mormons believe in the afterlife. It's all conjecture anyway. For all we know they could be right. Bottom line, you worry yourself about doctrine which is not central to their religion. They believe in Christ and stress the importance of coming unto him to gain salvation. Just like we believe. Check your judgementalness
kayaksta 10 months ago
@kayaksta The Latter Day SAINTS are worshipping the true and biblical Jesus, and not the fake trinitarian Jesus that was thought up by MEN.
Isaiah didn't attend the council of NICEA, and he never said there were no other gods in existence. ISAIAH said JHVH is the ONLY GOD TO WORSHIP and NO OTHER.
big difference. God is NOT a spirit.
LDS4Life71 9 months ago
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@kayaksta LDS follow Jesus Christs Gospel. Faith repentance baptism Holy Ghost priesthood authority ordinances. Seventies missionaries two by two prophets apostles. THe NT apostles knew this too. Its you Constantine Trinitarians who Abide another gospel.
LDS4Life71 9 months ago
@kayaksta Satan is the only spirit, God is immortal and has a body. Immortals do not have blood. The spirit alone works the flesh, and bone. Resurrection of the dead is the reuniting of the body with the spirit.
Rapture? nowhere
Trinity? nowhere
The words are NEVER mentioned once, and the apostles NEVER taught it. Only after 4 centuries did it evolve into that because the apostles should have continued to be set apart, but they were killed off and foundation was LOST.
lds.org
LDS4Life71 9 months ago
@LDS4Life71 You're comment is completely out of context. No idea why you're talking about that. explain
kayaksta 9 months ago
@kayaksta What don't you understand? The power of Satan usurped the church, and doctrines of God were changed into doctrines of men. The council of Nicea wasn't God inspired, and Constantine of rome had no authority whatsoever as Peter did. The men around Constantine were wolves, and false teachers, and they fulfilled prophecies of Isaiah by bringing confusion to men. The Greek philosophers of the 4th century completely failed to understand the scriptures for all their prudence.
LDS4Life71 9 months ago
@LDS4Life71 Im well aware of what your spouting. I've researched it myself. Now, do me a favor and quit replying to me when I wasn't talking to you in the first place
kayaksta 9 months ago
@beatleman69 You really can't be so certain.
FAIRLDS.org
for the truth
LDS4Life71 9 months ago
Why do people feel the need to attack and belittle others beliefs? How does that bring anyone closer to god?
Veiwyoutwice 1 year ago
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onstageagain 1 year ago
Jesus is not a created being!,"in the beginning was God,and the word was with God,and the word WAS God"- bible clearly states Jesus is the word of God,and is son of God.book of mormon is false teaching which has been added to bible,yet it's teaching cannot be backed up anywhere by the bible!- the books of bible always back up same facts,book of Mormon does not!,it's not from God!
andymcq2509 1 year ago
Did Brigham Young make a false prophecy?
"In the days of Joseph [Smith] it was considered a great privilege to be permitted to speak to a member of Congress, but twenty-six years will not pass away before the Elders of this Church will be as much thought of as the kings on their thrones," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 40).
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
How do magnets work?
ChewyLampShade 1 year ago
Gorgeous music on this video. I like the part about the gathering of Israel and missionary work as a final witness of Christ. Best artwork 4:08. This builds my testimony.
MsEndure2end 1 year ago
I got a question for any latterday saint members I thought that when the millenium is taking place this earth will be a terrestrial glory on the earth and that later the earth will become a Celestial Kingdom after.
dominichester77 1 year ago
So basically the 2nd coming is soon and if I don't repent before then Jesus will come down from heaven and DESTROY me... uhm... can someone like uh... FedEx me a book of mormon like really fast please? ...
TherionNLD 1 year ago
@TherionNLD mormondotorg
and you can request a free copy, or just listen to it free online in the windows media player.
LDS4Life71 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 I was trying to make a point through sarcasm. How can you expect people to convert at gun point? It's the same as traditional christianity saying you need to convert or burn in hell. Neither makes sense to me.
TherionNLD 1 year ago
@TherionNLD Just as God's open invitations, so is ours. For it is one and the same.
The door is open. It is really your choice to walk through it.
LDS4Life71 1 year ago
For those who want to know the most comprehensive truth about those who leave the Mormon (LDS) church visit the blog titled: james15
There is as much misconception about those who leave the church as there is about the church itself. take a bite of knowledge.
miljo34 1 year ago
I cannot accept God or any of his affiliates, because no matter how hard I try, I'll never accept the logic behind it all. If God cannot forgive me for that, then he is not God. Especially if I do my best to work hard, and be ethical... without prodding through fear.
Lokazra 1 year ago
@Lokazra I totally understand your thoughts. It's reasonable that people can feel that way, esp. in this day and age. I can honestly say to you with all heart He does exist, I look at parents who care and sacrifice for their children simply out of great love for their children, Now, take that caring and love and make it hundredfold. And only then you will only begin to understand how he feels for us. I commend you for your hard work and dedication, If I understand that and He def. will )
tigergreg8 1 year ago
@tigergreg8 Thank you for being understanding instead of confrontational. But, just because such a thing as parents exist, does not mean that there is a god. Just because everyone says that he loves all of us as his children does not mean that parents are proof of God. For me, logic and religion will never mix, and that's fine. Thank you for the support.
Lokazra 1 year ago
If the guy did it right the first time he would not have to come back !
oldirishladdie 1 year ago
@oldirishladdie That would be like planting a garden, and never tending to it, You can send others to do the work, but in the end, you yourself have to return to check it's progress and make the proper preparations )
tigergreg8 1 year ago
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See the Miracle of Switzerland, God and his Son on Picture taken from Google StreetView on Wallensee. That is a sin for the Beginning of the End. God living in Switzerland and his Son too. I am Chiren , that one who talk about Nostradamus and Bible. That is for you to see where CHIREN LIVING. Tomorow IN NEWSPAPER WILL everyone know WHERE CHIREN living, BUT GOD LIVING WITH HIS SON IN SWITZERLAND. The Miracle of Switzerland on 19.Oktober 2010 14:17 on Wallenlake
TrueChiren 1 year ago
The Second Coming of a man who never came.
GohModley 1 year ago
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MsHamidian 1 year ago
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The Pope is the anti Christ, he changed the Sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday, he claimed God gave him this right. Daniel said the anti Christ would think to change Gods times and laws. The pope burned and tortured millions of Christians, Daniel said the anti Christ would kill Gods saints and overpower them. The pope came out of the divided Roman empire and called himself God and the vicar of Christ. Daniel said the anti Christ would exault himself as high as JESUS the anointed one.
vladimirkovalski 1 year ago
There are many all over the world who claim the name of jesus but It is Gods choice who will enter into his kingdom. God chooses whether it is those who have prayed to him and searched him in their hearts or those who only claim him with their mouth and deny him in their lives.
MRCRAZYMONJOEL 1 year ago
As the word states though those who are fearfull and unbeleiving cannot please God. It is faith that saves you people not doubt. Your doubt is doubt in the power of God.
MRCRAZYMONJOEL 1 year ago
We will be like jesus. If it were not true Christ would not call us brothers. He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him not simply rewarding like we have from people on earth. The Spirit alone can reveal.
MRCRAZYMONJOEL 1 year ago
WARNING TO GET OUT OF THE MORMON CULT AIMING TO BECOME GODS there are warnings below in the bible to the mormon cult aiming to become GODS rather than gods children:
Revelation 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. (book of mormon was added)
Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me. (mormons aiming to be gods!) Warning to mormons.
watchwhenyougethome 1 year ago
@watchwhenyougethome
"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High" Psalm 82:6
"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" - John 10:34
"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:48
ahay321 1 year ago
@watchwhenyougethome Revelation 22:18,19 warns not to add or take away from the actual book of revelation. It's not ruling out future prophecy.
Revelation 11 mentions "two witnesses" who are future prophets in Jerusalem.
God set apostles and prophets in the Church:
"And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. " 1 Corinthians 12:28
ahay321 1 year ago
@watchwhenyougethome The mormons beleive we shall be like the Lord God even as the scripture says. We shall put on the incorruptible. Also in revelation that we will inherit from him just as he inherited from God the Father. If we overcome as he has we will be rewarded just the same with eternal bodies. As well the bible clearly states what God has in store is beyond your comprehension. The spirit clearly states WE WILL BE LIKE HIM.
MRCRAZYMONJOEL 1 year ago
The Book of Mormon was written for the Lamanites. Try getting President Monson to tell you who the Lamanites are and which the old man squirm. Joseph Smith and God knows, but today's leaders are too afraid to refute DNA and archaeological (lack of) evidence to speak with the same surety. Not good for business, you know?
The Book of Mormon, the most true of any book. Yes, it is truly a book.
GohModley 1 year ago
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ahay321 1 year ago
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@GohModley Avoid "profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"
See 1 Timothy 6:20
ahay321 1 year ago
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@GohModley Avoid "profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"
1 Timothy 6:20
ahay321 1 year ago
I have great love for all who viewed this video. LDS or not, you're all spirit children of the Most High God. Their worth is great. I'm willing to answer the questions of any who sincerely want to know what Latter-day Saints TRULY believe. Not what their friends, or "ex-mormon" sources are feeding them. They don't deserve lies, they deserve the truth. Any who asks or is interested in knowing has the right to KNOW. To come to a knowledge of the truth. He will help us help them home.
LightGnolaum 1 year ago
You can't really blame these people entirely for persecuting His church. Satan stirs up the hearts of man for his devilish purpose. Anger contention is not of God. Those who contend with one another are succumbing to carnal nature. Please, we are meant to be examples of the Lord Jesus Christ's teachings. These people obviously have not checked the ONLY reliable source. Their Father in Heaven. They must have a sincere heart, a sincere desire to learn for themselves. They must ask Him.
LightGnolaum 1 year ago
Remember, people: LDS or not, lets not bocme contentious. These people who persecute the saints of the Lord Jesus Christ obviously aren't searching for any sort of truth, they are searching for someone to fight and impose their faulty and incorrect assumptions and falsehoods about the Lord's church. It's best to remember what Christ went through when He was being persecuted. How did He react? With love, patience, long suffering, and firmness. We know the truth. God's kingdom will never fall.
LightGnolaum 1 year ago
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Book of Mormon:
Fictional people? mentioned in a fabricated story made a non-existent journey to some vague geographical area where they formed enormous nations, fought massive wars in undisclosed locations, wrote contradictory records in an unknown language and subsequently disappeared without leaving a? single shred of evidence they ever existed.
Bible:
Real people? in real locations, provable history, comprehensive archaeological support.
We can visit Jerusalem. Mormons can't find Bountiful
martlut 1 year ago
Imagine being in Joseph Smiths' shoes, the night a mob of men grab you, and put a gun to your head and tell you that if you don't deny the things you proclaim then a bullet will end your life tonight!
What did Joseph do???? He said HE WOULD NOT DO THAT, and risked being shot that very night, but they let him live alittle longer.
Poor unchristlike people that keep spreading lies on youtube. You are going to be soo sorry. You are not born again, and you have not entered the gate.
LDS4Life71 1 year ago
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Book of Mormon:
Fictional people? mentioned in a fabricated story made a non-existent journey to some vague geographical area where they formed enormous nations, fought massive wars in undisclosed locations, wrote contradictory records in an unknown language and subsequently disappeared without leaving a? single shred of evidence they ever existed.
Bible:
Real people? in real locations, provable history, comprehensive archaeological support.
We can visit Jerusalem. Mormons can't find Bountiful
martlut 1 year ago
Book of Mormon:
Fictional people? mentioned in a fabricated story made a non-existent journey to some vague geographical area where they formed enormous nations, fought massive wars in undisclosed locations, wrote contradictory records in an unknown language and subsequently disappeared without leaving a? single shred of evidence they ever existed.
Bible:
Real people? in real locations, provable history, comprehensive archaeological support.
We can visit Jerusalem. Mormons can't find Bountiful
martlut 1 year ago
You shall know them by their fruits. A bitter fountain can not bring forth good water. Neither can a good fountain bring forth bitter water. We have been given all sources needed to gain such a know such things. And as for me, a 17 year old boy, and future missionary for the Restored Church, I have learned for myself. He lives. God the Father lives. and You CAN know, if only you have a sincere heart. He loves you, and He will bless you for your efforts to seek His Kingdom. The true Church.
LightGnolaum 1 year ago
To all those who persecute the saints. You have all been prophesied of. Your feeble accusations and sourceless criticisms of the Prophet Joseph Smith actually strengthen my testimony of the truthfulness and God-given accurate foretelling of the Latter Days in the Bible and the Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ. But, I would exhort you: Read the Book of Mormon and the Bible with a sincere heart and a desire to know of it's truthfulness, and as sure as God liveth, He will witness
LightGnolaum 1 year ago
@LightGnolaum oh becaus the bible on it's own is so weak we need to read a secOND bible?okay and shwo us 38 "vast" ancient cities...eveidence from sites of massive battles that take placce in your boook..etc etc ..it is obviously a fabrication..even NON religious sources detail events from the bible..did jesus shooot twomen dead witha gun whielin jailawaiting ARSON..your "prophet" was a con artist who wanted an excuse 2 have aharem..why would god command someone to commit adultery?
DrRocksotheClown 1 year ago
Harden not your hearts. Ye shall know the saints by their fruits. The Dispensation of the fullness of Times has surely commenced by the Restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on the Earth. The veil is beginning to burst. But remember, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ shall come as a thief in the night, we know not. We know what to watch for, and prophecies of Old are surely being fulfilled. All of you that persecute the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, read the Book of Mormon.
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