For WINE Direct 3d I'm shocked at how terrible ATI drivers are. If you look at the Bugzilla entries for Starcraft 2 every single fucking entry is referencing ATI cards. My 4870X2 is awesome in Windows, but a pain in the ass in Linux.
@DarksideEE7 I got a friend with a Mobility 3450 which plays Heroes of newerth perfectly in Wine, while Heroes of newerth in native Linux is really low fps. So I think it's more of an issue with specific cards like your 4870x2. My 4890 is capable of playing most games on Linux with wine and the Ati driver.
ATi binary blob got thrown from archlinux for lack of ... fitness for the purpose... They don`t even mention its not opensource.
Lol, I remember I had a problem with my sata raid card, that kept corrupting the data on copy ops. It did same thing in Linux and BartPE(Windoze). So guess, what card did I buy? :) Silicon Image, cause they FOSS drivers, yeah for real. No problems since then btw.
So ATi/AMD and its pollitics basically suck even more than Xyaon. I start thinking of NOT buying AMD...
Strange, because it works perfectly with HUGE list of hardware than nvidia/microsoft whatever could even imagine.
Why just point lack of skill of the climber when you can easily say it the mountain made in the wrong way?
If you see something wrong in xorg, anyone with good skill can improve it. If something is wrong in payed work (with the money of the video board's customer), is just because *that* work is a crap.
You don't need to fix it... you need to choice more wisely your HW. What's the propose to buy a Hydrogen Car with the Hydrogen Station 400 miles away from your house?
Buy hardware from taiwanese company which only know windows and you'll how much help get to make *your* stuff whenever you want.
@rasiakwood What's bullshit? Intel X3100 doesn't run any games worth mentioning so I don't know what you're talking about? And yes it has great support from Intel towards linux. Try with Intel 500 poulsbo chipset and you got yourself a crappy driver. Intel X3100 is PURE GOLD compared to Intel 500.
@Mantua64 Great support ? I know how this support looks - it is far from great and at the time i wrote those posts driver was so broken you couldnt watch youtube video on this card!
I dont know if they fixed x3100 because i bought X4500MHD laptop (just for HDMI output). And guess what - driver for this card also sucks. You must force brightness in terminal - it doest work with with any aplet (and this problem is at least year old still no fix). Also hd accelaration doesnt work.
@rasiakwood Intel is a great supporter of Linux except for the Intel GMA500 which was build by PowerVX or something, so that isn't actually Intel. I think you need to look for some workarounds since I have had no problems what so ever already back in 2007 on Ubuntu 7.10 with Dell D630 and X3100 with compiz and everything working like a charm. I played Counter Strike through Steam through Wine back then as well. No problems at all. I had one bug though. If using the VGA port I had to reboot :/
You need to install depencies for DKMS first to which kernel you want to use. I got mandriva linux with x200m radeon on board and with newest kernel. Everything works fine with Ati drivers.Games run a bit better on linux than on windows. Ofcourse only with my specs...
yeah i had that problem on my ubuntu too.... i can't get nvidia cuz i have a mac :D but a tip: get mandriva spring one(not 2008) ;) it is auto-supportet with xgl :-)
For WINE Direct 3d I'm shocked at how terrible ATI drivers are. If you look at the Bugzilla entries for Starcraft 2 every single fucking entry is referencing ATI cards. My 4870X2 is awesome in Windows, but a pain in the ass in Linux.
DarksideEE7 1 year ago
@DarksideEE7 I got a friend with a Mobility 3450 which plays Heroes of newerth perfectly in Wine, while Heroes of newerth in native Linux is really low fps. So I think it's more of an issue with specific cards like your 4870x2. My 4890 is capable of playing most games on Linux with wine and the Ati driver.
Mantua64 8 months ago
ATi binary blob got thrown from archlinux for lack of ... fitness for the purpose... They don`t even mention its not opensource.
Lol, I remember I had a problem with my sata raid card, that kept corrupting the data on copy ops. It did same thing in Linux and BartPE(Windoze). So guess, what card did I buy? :) Silicon Image, cause they FOSS drivers, yeah for real. No problems since then btw.
So ATi/AMD and its pollitics basically suck even more than Xyaon. I start thinking of NOT buying AMD...
lin545 2 years ago
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Linux sucks.
Xyaon 3 years ago
No, only you. Sorry.
lin545 2 years ago 2
It's not drivers problem - its xorg problem. Even Nvidia say that this is total crap.
rasiakwood 3 years ago
Strange, because it works perfectly with HUGE list of hardware than nvidia/microsoft whatever could even imagine.
Why just point lack of skill of the climber when you can easily say it the mountain made in the wrong way?
If you see something wrong in xorg, anyone with good skill can improve it. If something is wrong in payed work (with the money of the video board's customer), is just because *that* work is a crap.
ylonz 2 years ago
yeah you can fix it - we know how it worked for intel drivers haha :)
You use linux for 3 months or what? I used it for 10 years and it was always the same song - fix it yourself,
rasiakwood 2 years ago
You don't need to fix it... you need to choice more wisely your HW. What's the propose to buy a Hydrogen Car with the Hydrogen Station 400 miles away from your house?
Buy hardware from taiwanese company which only know windows and you'll how much help get to make *your* stuff whenever you want.
ylonz 2 years ago
BULLSHIT.
I bought intel x3100 laptop because it was opensource. and what? driver is unusable!
You can sell this crap to someone who uses ubuntu.
rasiakwood 2 years ago
@rasiakwood What's bullshit? Intel X3100 doesn't run any games worth mentioning so I don't know what you're talking about? And yes it has great support from Intel towards linux. Try with Intel 500 poulsbo chipset and you got yourself a crappy driver. Intel X3100 is PURE GOLD compared to Intel 500.
Mantua64 8 months ago
@Mantua64 Great support ? I know how this support looks - it is far from great and at the time i wrote those posts driver was so broken you couldnt watch youtube video on this card!
I dont know if they fixed x3100 because i bought X4500MHD laptop (just for HDMI output). And guess what - driver for this card also sucks. You must force brightness in terminal - it doest work with with any aplet (and this problem is at least year old still no fix). Also hd accelaration doesnt work.
rasiakwood 8 months ago
@rasiakwood Intel is a great supporter of Linux except for the Intel GMA500 which was build by PowerVX or something, so that isn't actually Intel. I think you need to look for some workarounds since I have had no problems what so ever already back in 2007 on Ubuntu 7.10 with Dell D630 and X3100 with compiz and everything working like a charm. I played Counter Strike through Steam through Wine back then as well. No problems at all. I had one bug though. If using the VGA port I had to reboot :/
Mantua64 8 months ago
You need to install depencies for DKMS first to which kernel you want to use. I got mandriva linux with x200m radeon on board and with newest kernel. Everything works fine with Ati drivers.Games run a bit better on linux than on windows. Ofcourse only with my specs...
karlosocoxo 3 years ago
yeah i had that problem on my ubuntu too.... i can't get nvidia cuz i have a mac :D but a tip: get mandriva spring one(not 2008) ;) it is auto-supportet with xgl :-)
kaiomatico 4 years ago
Ok, I solved defining Modeline options directly in xorg.conf file.
I don't know, but fgrlx doesnt autodetect the optima modeline.
beldog2 4 years ago
@beldog2 Probably a cheap display then. Decent screens report this to the OS when probed
ShadowEater120880 6 months ago
too late T,T
martok666 4 years ago
Wow thats odd. I blame ATI and its anti open source ways. Get a Nvidia card. ;)
Tris2006 5 years ago
As far as I know nVidia does not help development of Open source drivers. ATI does!
alexzeratul 3 years ago
Yeah, I admit ATI got better in the open source world... Woah, my comment is a year old... no wonder. lol
Tris2006 3 years ago