US and French Navies friendship: Rafale jets fly from CVN Charles-de-Gaulle to USS Enterprise

[ishangore1]

dassault rocks!!



[zinzin487]

dommage qui y a cette musique de merde!!!

[Ultorif]

lecons de morale à 2 balles ?! et toi tes leçons qui refont l'histoire avec un point de vue ultranationaliste proche de l'extrémisme sans aucune preuve, aucun fondements et surtout sans aucun recul. Les britaniques n'ont pas bombardés les civils francais par plaisir (bon ok les ricains s'en foutaient des civils) mais les anglais faisaient beaucoup plus attention et il faut savoir que dans une guerre il y a toujours des morts et les principaux responsables sont les allemands avant tout

[santanderino91]

@Ultorif PAs du tout, ils ont même essayé des dizaines de fois de bombarder sans succès la statue sur colonne de napoléon à wimille. Cette statue tourne le dos à l'angleterre et il n'y avait pas d'objectif militaire, mais ils l'ont bombardé plusieurs fois pour l'abattre. Les anglais ont effectivement tué des français pour rien. Et les américains ont cru que la France était leur 52eme état jusqu'a leur expulsion par de gaulle.

[Ultorif]

@santanderino91 à propos de la statue elle ne tourne pas le dos à l'Angleterre, et apparement des britanniques auraient, au retour d'une mission, voulu la bombardé, mais il n'y a aucune preuve et ce n'est pas parceque qu'elques anglais ont voulu bombardé une statue que toute la RAF ont bombardé des civils francais. Il ne faut pas oublier que (contrairement aux US) l’Angleterre a elle aussi subit des bombardements civils par les allemands, ils étaient conscient du traumatisme que cela créait.

[santanderino91]

@Ultorif Ah non je ne pense pas que c'était des fous sanguinaires, mais ils ont quand même eu la main lourde. Il y a eu beaucoup de mensonges sur la 2nde guerre mondiale de toutes façons.

[The5admeets3vil]

in the American revolution the french stepped in to fight for our nations freedom against the British empire.

in ww1 and ww2 the US stepped in to fight for the French as German forces furiously tried to take over Europe

9/11/2001 the US is attacked... the french step in to fight alongside American troops in Afghanistan ... we fight for each other

[anasthase100]

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C'est écœurant de lire tous les com' de nigauds qui lèchent le fion des américains et des rosbifs.

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C'est là une preuve incontestable que la servitude volontaire, c'est un vrai concept ! Le statut de Vassal n'est pas le statut qui convient à un pays comme la France ! Nous devons retrouver notre dignité et sortir du rôle de chien des ricains.

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Faites attention les gars, à force de lécher , vous finirez la langue chargée.

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[Trinita13]

@anasthase100 toi ton cerveau par contre il n'est pas trop chargé, tu devrais lui commander une mise à jour rapidement. Les mecs comme toi sont vraiment la honte de notre pays, mémoire courte, aucun respect pour les morts, aucune culture, aucune éducation. Va ouvrir un livre d'histoire, au moins une fois dans ta vie.

[anasthase100]

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@Trinita13 - Va te faire voir et occupe toi de ton cerveau - Tu es un crétin qui vénèrent ses maitres et qui adore sa propre servitude. Bouffon.

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[Trinita13]

@anasthase100

Je vénère personne, espèce de QI de chèvre, je respecte par contre une armée qui a perdu plus d'un demi million de soldats pour notre liberté pendant les deux guerres mondiales, ce que tu ne sais pas faire parceque ça demande trop de réflexion pour un pauvre pommé comme toi.

[anasthase100]

@Trinita13 - Tête de fion. Ils n'ont pas perdu un million d'homme pour notre liberté, mais pour soumettre les nations d'Europe! Les angl-saxons alliés aux sionistes sont les réelles responsables des guerres mondiales. Ce sont eux les vainqueurs. C'est ainsi qu'ils ont soumis l'europe. Quand les ricains sont arrivés en France, ils sont venus avec des banquiers juifs, et une monnaie d'occupation pour nous mettre en servage. Tu connais l'histoire grace aux films d'Holliwood ou quoi ?

[Trinita13]

@anasthase100

Oh pauvre, et pour couronner le tout c'est un gros facho. Un demi million, pas un million. Apprend à lire. Ah les juifs fallait y venir. Les américains sont responsables de la 1ere et de la 2eme guerre mondiale ?? alors toi tu mérites vraiment une grosse médaille, un vrai champion toute catégorie.

[anasthase100]

@Trinita13 - t'es vraiment trop con pour discuter - Je te parle de faits réels et avérés tête de con - sois gentil , va te pendre, t'es une plaie pour l'humanité.

[Ultorif]

@anasthase100 je viens de voir votre discussion premierement j'ai remarque qu'au debut de chaque commentaire il y avait une insulte différente ensuite pour les Us si ils voulaient de l'influence en europe c'etait surtout contre les russes qui eux en voulait aussi mais les américains s'en foutant de la seconde mondiale et de nous c'etait

[Ultorif]

@Ultorif (suite) surtout les japonais qu'ils voulait attaquer d'ailleurs au debut de la guerre ils etaient pret a commercer avec les nazis et ils ne sont pas rentrer d'eux meme en guerre par contre ils nous ont aide economique en armant l'armee libre ce sont plus les britaniques qui se sont sacrifies et qui nous ont aides

[anasthase100]

@Ultorif Je me contrefous de votre avis. Que les choses soient claires entre nous. Les jugements de valeurs sur mon langage n'engage que vous. ( On entend pire à la TV et à la radio à longueur de temps. ) Ensuite, vous dites des aneries. Les anglo-ricains ont systématiquement bombardé les villes pleines de civils. Le Havre a été ENTIREMENT détruit alors qu'il n'y avait plus aucun danger ( les ricains débarqués étaient déjà en Belgique ... et la résitance avait " nettoyé ")

[Ultorif]

@anasthase100 oui je suis totalement d'accord que les américains ont bombardés directement les français donc lorsqu ils sont vu comme vainqueur cela me désole(j'ai de plus en plus à les supporter ces américains) mais il ne faut pas généraliser il y en a qui n'ont pas souhaité tout ces bombardements. Par contre les anglais ont beaucoup moin bombardé la france et ils ont totalement reconnu la France comme pays encore en guerre et vainqueur (d'ailleurs c'est grace à eux qu'ont a eu une partie

[Ultorif]

@Ultorif de l'allemagne de l'autriche et de berlin car les américains ne souhaitent pas que les francais soit présent dans ces endroits la

ps: youtube n'est pas un terrain d'acharnement et "le fait qu'on entende pire à la télé" soit utilisé comme argument peut être vu comme de l'immaturité

[anasthase100]

@Ultorif . Gardez vos leçons de morale a 2 balles voulez vous ? Tenons-nous en aux faits car vous devenez chiant, ( preuve de votre immaturité ?! ). Les rosbifs ont reconnu la France par intérêt, non par "camaraderie ". Ils ont tué nos marins sans défense, en plein port et ils ont activement participé aux bombardements des civils en France, ainsi qu'à la destrucion totale du port du Havre.(1er port de l'Atlantique à l'époque ). Ils sont comme les ricains,: des imperialistes sanguinaires

[LordHannigan]

Okay France I love you to just don't let it go to your head.

[bingofioul]

next year we'll know if french 2nd carrier will by build, and if it will be a nuclear powered or not.

[devastationz12349]

i never knew that french and US planes can land on each others carrier, now at any war french and US carriers can support each others planes........maybe

[joey011582]

@devastationz12349 We built the Carrier for the French at the Newport News shipyard and was completed back in 2000 I believe. I remeber seeing the their carrier back in 2001 aboard the USS enterprise back in 2001 that summer. Their carrier is a scaled down version of ours and they had this capability for years. Pretty soon we're going to be having british and french squadrons deployed on our carriers along with a few other allies.

[heavenpsykodark]

Long life to this cooperation.

[plouni17]

long life to the french-american friendship

[TheIceman567]

@plouni17 OUI!

[garrethackler]

Couldn't be a more appropriate choice of music... lol

Regardless of flag, FLY NAVY! Who else would we leave air defense to, the air force...?

[nmfirepilot]

Our French friends make ugly cars, but beautiful aircraft

[chenoir]

@nmfirepilot

Well, you haven't seen any moderne french car from citroen or Peugeot I think.

The Citroen C5 is classy and beautiful.

[asianiinvasion]

@chenoir yes and us Americans make cars that can sometimes be shitty XD

[Trinita13]

@nmfirepilot

ugly cars, in the past but nowadays it's not true ;=)

[oiseautempete]

Before the Rafale, another french aircraft land and take off from US carriers: the Bréguet BR1050 Alizé (retired in 2000), a sigle propeller anti submarine aircraft: they take off without catapult :this aircraft can take off in only 200m (~600feet)...I see myself , 2 take off whitout catapult on the Foch carrier in 1981...:easy!

[miniclipjunk]

....and without the "Yanks" the "Frogs" would now be doing the facist goose step!!

[miniclipjunk]

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[fastyoup31]

c'est quoi cette musique d'amour à deux balles pour illustrer la vidéo ? La France et les Etats-Unis sont loin de vivre une histoire d'amour...

[oiseautempete]

@fastyoup31

L'aviation de marine Française et Américaine sont très liées, d'ailleurs la majeure partie de la formation des pilotes de l'aviation de Marine embarquée Française se déroule aux USA, seule la formation la plus avancée se déroule en France (en plus de la sélection évidemment)...

Les relations militaires Franco Américaines se déroulent sur le terrain dans une excellente ambiance de respect mutuel , beaucoup mieux que ce que laisse apparaître certaines tensions politiques...

[MrStaxxy]

@oiseautempete

des soldats qui se font la gueule sont des soldats mort, je suppose.

[RichKilla86ers]

Rafales along with Typhoons, Tornados, Mirages, CF-18s, and F-16s are going to hunt and destroy some Libyan fighters

[TheCharlie359]

The carrier at 00:20 is not CDG, it either Foch or Clemenceau.

[oiseautempete]

@TheCharlie359

Yes is exact, but whe don't see the number: Clemenceau= R98, Foch= R99

[asianiinvasion]

I find it fitting that the USS Enterprise (the only one of its class, first nuclear powered carrier in the world, and currently the smallest and oldest carrier in the US navy at 49 years old and 9,800 tons lighter than a Nimitz class) is next to the first and only European nuclear carrier. but the Enterprise is being decommissioned in 2013 :(

[fmoa]

heres why i say u.s n brits did more than russia in ww2..both have fought in jungles in southeast asia n pacific,both also fought desert warfare in north africa n both clash wit german n jap navy in naval warfare..so brits n yanks have engage in every type of war scenario in ww2..russia didnt,never fought in jungle,desert or any major naval battle of ww2..russia only conduct conventional warfare in eastern front n thats it,ruski also use human wave attacks to overrun german position..sucks eh.

[fmoa]

i hate fooking ruski fans that bitch about we should thank russia for victory in ww2..LOL..witout u.s lend lease program that provide russia n allies wit supplies n war materials..russia would have lost,also..russia never fought a world war like the brits n yanks,both brits n yanks fought in pacific,southeast asia,north africa n mediteranean theater of ww2,therefore yanks n brits fought on a worldwide scale while russia didnt,so give thanks to the brits n u.s for victory in ww2 too.

[aknotpsu]

the few last seconds are awesome! WOW!!

[bassmasstaa]

how ironice that the song is from Berlin

[MasterLouisSG]

God bless France and United States of America ! God bless the friendship between us ! God bless freedom !

Greetings from France.

[Wachatoey]

Vive Le France!

[oseas64]

Don't be thankful for what the Russians did in World War II. They only fight along side the good guys because they were attacked by the Germans. Anybody remember what they did to the Polish people together with the Germans? They paid the price for it. I just feel sorry for the Russian soldiers who paid with their lives.

[chenoir]

@oseas64

So did the USA. They wanted to stay out of this conflict but they got in when a german u-boot kapitän mistood and attacked an american ship.

Not to mention that every country in Europe had a non-agression agreement with Germany. France and UK have been the only two to break it and declare war to Germany when Poland got attacked.

[chenoir]

@oseas64

Excuse me, I was wrong about that ship, it was First World War.

Anyway, until Japan attacked the US in Pearl Harbor, the US wanted to stay out of the fightings. Like Russians.

[0Lightbringer]

@chenoir The Russians cooperated with Hitler to conquer Poland. Stalin got the eastern half and Hitler the Western half. It was not until Hitler got short on resources when Hitler attacked Stalin and Russia got involved in WW2 as enemie of Hitler. Before that, Russia was already in the War, but than as ally of the germans.

[iloveairfrance]

Yes, we have only one carrier, and some americans are making fun on "french navy", but we're proud of our navy, we're proud of our planes! I want to become a Navy pilot, and if I achieve, i will receive my french and american wings. I HOPE.

[69Patriote]

Vive la LIBERTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JrGuacamoles]

whats with the gay music?

[jaegerhund]

Vive la France et vive les États-Unis. 

[XKS99]

@jaegerhund

I love France and all it stand for. VIVE LA FRANCE!

[VSHepsilonn]

aaaaah j'aime ! merci pour l'hommage que tu fais aux pilotes et avions français !

[trevizons]

Nice posting, reminds me of the American revolution, Washington, Jefferson and Franklin with Lafayette and Rochembau, thanks to the French the old Americans got their freedom, and thanks to the Americans the French got their freedom in WWII, it's just a beautiful story between two great powers, let's read more History so we can appreciate even more these kind of events ...

[lominho]

@trevizons couldn't find a better way to put it....

[sayagainrogerthat]

@trevizons 100% agree.. perfectly said.. reminds me too.. A lost history of the real story, sad..

[ANigg007]

Too bad that assesment is not quite accrurate.....F-16CJ's were not tasked to look for SAM's - Typhoons & Rafales were on the same team...so how could there be a score ??? hmmm Oh yeah if your "Rafale" is so awesome how come no one wants it??? Typhoon..GB, Germany, Italy, Spain, Austria, the Saudis...Shit even the Itty bitty JAS gripen has more foreign sales than you guys...LOL that's funny The Raptor is in a class by its-self so don'y even GO there!!!!

[alpacks]

@ANigg007 political and diplomatic problems principally ... USA lock the market of fighters by pressure diplomatic every specialist in Geostrategy know that ...

a lot of country and especially the Arab countries : is afraid to being a target of USA in hunt of terrorism : that why rafale in 7.5 tons versions is refused by emirats and other arabs countries ...

they are wedged in the corner in an americano-brittain loyalty : they will not be directed as source for al quaeda

[alpacks]

@alpacks the officials reasons ? rafale 7.5 tons is low versus fighters 9 tons reactors LOL ! (rafale is very more lighter ... it's just a pitiable reasons) france have wins vs eurofighter with rafale 7.5 tons reactors !!! rafale no need 9t :

i think bad information, but especially has the obviousness of diplomatic pressures !

don't forget : it together dictatorships which can be reported at the need if they make things which do not like in USA

[OlderG0ds]

@alpacks

That's not true UAE has bought Mirage 2000 besides F-16 and many more French and European aircraft. They are not in fear of war from us. Neither is Kuwait Saudi Arabia Egypt etc.

Maybe, now just maybe, people buy aircraft such as F-16 F-15 from USA because it's one of the best and affordable.. crazy thought I know.

[jetaddicted]

@ANigg007 it wasn't the rafale's task neither, and the raf's weren't playing as rafales neither,and both were using their equipment without trying to copy another aircraft. i've read the AFM article you're repeating, i believe it's inaccurate,since it doesn't mention the solenzara encounter,where raf's and typhoons were acting as raf's and typhoons...

[tobaritchpingun]

@ANigg007

The Americans and Brits won't let the Rafale export so well, just as they did for the Mirage F-1. The British deal with the Saudis regarding the Typhoon was unclear. They bribed their way into it, and the British government forced the corruption investigations to stop. JAS is a cheap plane sold to the "superpowers" South Africa, Thailand, Hungary, Czechia, big deal!

Americans use political pressures and bribes to sell their equipment, who could blame them, they got the means.

[93NTMSupreme]

wyzarme = lol hihi haha

-Rafale is much better than a typhoon in air to air combat as we saw recently in UAE ( funny for a pure interceptor plane )

4 Rafale vs 4 RAF EF typhoon : 4-0 and 3-1 : 7-1 in 2 rounds. ( both dogfight and BRV )

and as good as a F22 raptor in dogfight as we saw , 1-1 and 4 draw out of 6 dogfights

beeating 2 air superiority fighter when Rafale is still exellent as Strike fighter then he is omnirole in more

[XpCorba]

i undestand why rafale "downgraded weapon" for the score 3-1 in favor of rafale.

I got information, It was a fight between 2 rafale vs 4 eurofighter, yeaah !

It is a nightmare for EF2000

Not bad,

[wyzarme]

I wish the French had kept in the Eurofighter project, the Typhoon is a better aircraft. Good job the French Airforce have damn fine pilots eh.

[OlderG0ds]

In all honesty I believe the Rafale is superior to Typhoon. (And if anything I'd be biased towards Typhoon) but Rafale is far more versatile and from what we've seen in Al Dhafra a few months back they certainly can tango with Typhoons.

[wyzarme]

They have a much poorer thrust to weight and are therefore worse in dogfights, and in testing the Typhoon gets a 4.5:1 ratio against a SU-35, and the Rafale gets 1:1, so I would say the Typhoon is better.

[alpacks]

@wyzarme france never return to typhoon project consortium : you laugh ... lol

many years, your fans on the net of the typhoon, have clubbed bulltshits to make believe typhoon is superior than rafale and is the 2nd best after F22 ... it's pitiable !

it is so difficult to swallow grass snakes that you have developed a lower fighter has that of "froggys" that we are ? Your fighter have loose in dec 2009 on everything plans vs rafale ! and in a very clear manner, a truth spank !

[alpacks]

@alpacks and the most dramatic for you : you don't have a real aircrafts carrier ! typhoon, you don"t even have that to allow the typhoon to attain better one versatility !

rafale is a real omni role aircraft because he can had a real carrier, a real sea's version ... in what typhoon can a real omni role aircraft by take off in UK or germany ? to do what ? things wich anything 3rd generation fighter can made like F16 or mirage 2000

[alpacks]

@alpacks when Uk peoples shall open eyes : they can see typhoon is just an eyes powder ... without carrier : what real potential omni role in world can real have ? nothing ... just a luxury shit wedged in the corner in his national airspace ... yeah what a good fighter ... lol

if I would be British citizen : I would hand in notices has my government, my milirary staff, and has those who developed this fighter ...

he can do anything in the present state ! in real defense

[88ABRAMS88]

both great countrys and armys : )

[vadimo]

anyone knows purpose of this event? surely franc has their navy aircraft carries ships to take off and land?

I did read that dassault did test catapult for the aircraft in US because France did have any such testing facilities.

[bingofioul]

@vadimo that's true, france test it on the cvn foch first then they tested it near las vegas, i don't know how this air force base is called.

Moreover the french navy makes there pilot in usa and french navy pilot have there wings of french army And us navy

[rotorpilot82]

JESUS CHRIST, WHAT'S WITH THE MUSIC!!

[kirkjamestkirk]

During Air Tactical Leadership Course in UAE, Dassault Rafale identified surface to air threats USAF F-16 CJ failed to identifie, defeated Eurofighter Typhoon [4 Rafale vs 4 Eurofighter: Score: 4-0, 3-1], was shot once by F-22 Raptors out of 6 dogfights.

[wollin20]

I am not qualified to rate a military airplane, but this one is really gorgeous, I mean esthetically.

[RomaniaTricolor]

@wollin20

"If it looks good, it flys good"...AV slang...

:)

[aotearoa20]

@wollin20 It's one of the best in the world as well ^^

[Papi1960R]

Yes. The F-35 program is so over budget that the cost is closing in on $100 million per Aircraft. Italy, Austrailia, Turkey and even the UK will not be able to afford this.

The 2 Future Carriers QE2 and Britannia are now being built with fittings for Catapults and Arresting gear. Looks like 2 generation Rafale Ms for the Royal Navy in 2016-2018.

[Louisthefish23]

Suposably, if the royal navy can't get their F-35's, they are going to purchase the Rafale

[e0o9kii]

Whats with the green, white and yellow uniforms. Cant they all wear the same uniform?

[alpacks]

stupid comment ... they have different colour on the bridge

to be immediately identified in their function on the aircraft carrier

[alpacks]

it is very important to have a very big reactivity of operations

to be at the top and know as soon as possible who makes what on the bridge! that emergency landing on the aircraft carrier belongs in the event of accident or in case of takeoff and

[makiavel]

Hey british don't be so jellous. You fired France of the EFA Project, the frenchs developped the Rafale, and now it eats your Thypoon so easily. And for your future F-35, wait and see because it's not totally developped and your Harrier is too old. So before speak, gather some news !

[justalilrandom]

How about before you speak again, you learn proper English? I'd rather have a "Typhoon" than a Rafale, the Typhoon is being bought by more countries because it is a better aircraft, deal with it.

[braorius]

The typhoon is going to be use by more countries because of his multinational origins but he is not going to be bought by any other country except those which have set the efa program...If you look at the rafale and typhoon developement youll see that the first has been enhanced to be a multirole plateform since the beginning and the second was designed to be a superiority fighter lately and hardly turned into a multirole-like one.And, if our english disturbs you try to speak french :)

[justalilrandom]

May I just say your English is a lot better than the rest of the frogs commenting here, and you would be the first to raise any sort of real point. My point about more countries includes countries beyond the member nations who built it, quite a few more nations want the Typhoon compared to those looking at the Rafale. If you really want me to, I will speak French.

[pakruy]

Le Rafale a ete test au debut du mois de novembre par un pilote anglais. Sa conclusion: The best fighter in the world.

[PLUME75]

Yes indeed... And do you think that it is a good strategy to have chosen to invest so much in an airplane who is mainly dedicated to air superiority ? Do you know the date of the last dog fight and air kill in recent history ? It's more rational to have an aircraft enhanced for multi-role tasks, the important is to have something reliabel, efficient and available... Rafale is deployed in Afghanistan, and the Rafale-M is operational on the CDG a/c carrier... Typhoon havent seen action yet...

[rotorpilot82]

RIBBET!!

[chenoir]

Well in fact, we auto-fired ourselves from the EF project, because French needs were not a short range interceptor aircraft with limited multi-purpose abilities, which in fact is also the most ugliest thing that had ever flown on the earth (flown, flown. Let's say the earth repell it because it's so ugly, that's why it fly.).

[justalilrandom]

It's not that ugly, and appearances count for jack shit in combat. The F-35 in the hover is a lot more ugly...

[kirkjamestkirk]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  Excellent joke!

[moiGTO]

France is not a super power (I'm french) but is powerfull. EU is a super power.

*Eurofighter and Rafale are multirole jet. F-22 is a pure jetfighter. Donc ne comparez pas.

If EU decides to made a pure jetfighter, I think it can be more best than the F-22...

But EU is too divided (splited?) to made a pure jetfighter.

* Sorry for my awesome english.

[7Kronos]

The next pure air superiority EU "state-of-art" jet will be certainly French again because Dassault has been asked to study possibilities, with and without pilot (drone). Someone from dassault talked about a 24G drone interceptor this summer (S&V Hors série été 2009).

[wiganerrmc]

britian as alot better jets that france thay was ment be makeing the EF with germany italy and spain but pulled out and made the rafel which cost half the prise of the EF really its just a cheap EF with rubbisher tec

[7Kronos]

You wish, this is long time specialists stoped comparing EF with Rafale, because Rafale is just so upper. Rafale is often compared to F22 because they are both state of art.

In competition, never the EF was selected on first stage, even Grippen is better on avionics.

The "canard mistake" on the typhoon is one of the numerous problem. Just go check around before saying non sense

[wiganerrmc]

Rafale, is shit face it britian bae 1 of the best companys in the world made it and its british thay worked on the f-22 and f-35

and also german Luftwaffe, made it aswell and german are the best at makeing stuff and thats a fact

plus the euro fighter programe cost 7x more than the Rafale

britian was gona bye the Rafale for are carriers intead of the f-35 but it was tryed and we said it was crap

[7Kronos]

Shut up dude, I don't know anything. There is no exported EF2000 at the moment except 2 in Saudi Arabi and they freezed the 68 other plane delivery because they dicided to look at the Rafale proposition since 2008.

The only countries buying the EF2000 are the only ones actually the founders of the programs.

A Rafale F3+ cost aprox 92Mil€ while a Tyhpoon cost 62Mil€.

The EF2000 program cost is 20Bil (2003) while Rafale is 37Bil €.

You really are full of shit dude. So again stfu

[wiganerrmc]

wrong the EF program cost 82 billion and the rafale cost 21.4 billion

and Austria Saudi Arabia japan india and many more are after it

[Sud34]

cost has nothing to do with efficiency.. just take a look at the A400M program or the NH90 program..

in Europe, cooperation in the field of military industry always generated very high cost and the rafale is far cheaper than the EF because dassault build it alone. Cooperation is not an economic choice, it is a political choice and it caused a big loss of money.

For France, it was a better choice to leave the EF program. Moreover it did not share its technology

[wiganerrmc]

ye but a british company called bae worked on the EF and thay have worked on the f-22  f-35 and thay are the 2nd biggest millitary company in world and soon will be the biggest cos usa is useing them alot now

[FredAndCoInc]

The USA and France are the two nuclear powers have a veto at the UN. Then yes they are two super powers. France is smaller than Texas in size but is able to be heard and keep the top level technology. I hope we will win quickly in Afghanistan and U.S. soldiers stationed in Iraq will soon return home to their families.

[Antiworld23]

Calling France a super power is absurd.

[moiGTO]

UK is a nuclear power and has a veto at the UN*

[Skuliman]

Another beutyful European jet..., the French know how to do it, probably the best fighter jet now is the Eurofighter, the latest jets US has made fail kinda badly, the F-22 Raptor, fails, cool jet but it fails

[Warchief1521]

No, hardly. The F-22 is the greatest air superiority fighter and will be for the next several decades. Your Eurofighter will be targeted and destroyed before it can even see the F-22.

[Skuliman]

Hold on, America and Europe arent at war, and never will be, But if we would be at war, oh boy will the US go down fast.

[Warchief1521]

Not true. The US is completely isolated from Europe, and the US has the largest and best navy and air force in the world, so how would you get to us? Our nuclear subs can take on entire fleets. And since when would anyone in Europe want to go to war with us, we have many allies in Europe, especially the British.

[alpacks]

impossible

Europe and america (USA) is just the Westerners (white ... without racism sorry)

US people are European origins of 250 years maximum for the population, and in reality less than 1 century for the majority of the whites in USA (english, irish, scotish, french, german, Dutch for the main origins of the whites of European massive migrations towards USA, but north european too with danish, sweeden, norway people ! italian was the last white migration in US)

[alpacks]

we are the same people

with celtics and germanics roots which belong press on the basis of Roman civilization to make ours countries ...

what's real differences between french and USA people ? littles for cultures and food yes it's true ... But since 60's USA take a lot of french culture for better food and cultures, and french since 50's take a lot of USA culture for property of consumptions ect

just 2 peoples with light different evolutions

[alpacks]

USA and europe are too similaries to do war ...

europe need to make nazism in 1936 to compel USAS to enter in war with a roots of her (america vs germany) !

germany was a roots of america like england, scotland, ireland, france and Dutch are others roots for USA ...

like a children who need to conflict with a parents, like to "kill father" in psychological evolution of a teen who inter in war whith is father ... Because is father is reactionary

[OlderG0ds]

right on man. German is largest ancestry for Americans and going to war against them wasn't something we wanted to do naturally. Had the Nazis only attacked Russia we prob wouldn't have done anything, neither would UK or France

[smoochym]

"and in reality less than 1 century for the majority of the whites"

That's ridiculous, European settlement has existed in America for nearly 500 hundred years. Indeed, some Americans can even trace there lineage to the Mayflower.

Moreover, even the later immigrants like the Prussians, were coming since 1700.

[wiganerrmc]

EF can out manuther the f-22 very easy but f-22 as been canceld

[Warchief1521]

It doesn't matter that the EF has better maneuverability than the F-22, because the F-22 can engage and destroy the EF before the EF can see it. By the way, the F-22 has NOT been cancelled, they're just cutting production.

[7Kronos]

F22 is not a dogfighter. It is an "inpunity" interceptor, just like the Rafale. To counter a F22 you need to be all-passive, without emetting any EW and active ECCM. Spectra do that.

[wiganerrmc]

and the f-22 was made just for contoling the skys in dogfightes

[7Kronos]

Lol, F22 is absolutly not a dogfighter, it's even 9G locked. You just know nothing.

[wiganerrmc]

you stupid look it up and Rafale cost half the prise of the euro fighter y do you think even on you tube when it seys top 10 fighter jets EF is 2nd and firt most of the time and Rafale is some times not even on it best iv seen it is 6th y do you think that every1 wants the EF i dont think no over country are byeing the rafel i think 1 country is intrested and how many countrys have aready got the EF about 10 mmmmm which 1 is better

[justalilrandom]

LEARN ENGLISH! The Typhoon is being bought by more countries than the Rafale, despite it costing more, must a reason for that... Half the price and French workmanship, sounds great to me...

[wiganerrmc]

i would have something made by britian germany italy and spain before i had somehting from france germans are the best at makeing stuff and thay helped of the eurofighter and britian is best at tec and that

[chenoir]

Well, why don't you try to learn another language yourself before talking? Or is that too hard for your superiority complex to recon english is not the only language in the world and that if it's speaked so much around the world it's because even a total dumbass can learn it?

[justalilrandom]

I actually speak multiple languages so there goes that argument.

You have failed...

[LeoAndRas]

I would sugest for you to use also passive radar AAMs as russky R-27EP(130km range), R-77P(more than 100km range) or even Kh-31P Mod2 (200km range Mach 4.5 ramjet missile) designed to use agains AWACS/ REVO aircrafts,and longer range as possible IR AAMs to maximize hit chances.

[Antiworld23]

Eurofighter is considerably inferior to the F-22 and F-35.

[odessaboy]

Fails? How? The thing is getting a 122-0 kill to loss ratio in combat scenarios in fighter squads of twelve. The typhoon isn't doing that. Not even close.

[no4go2]

f22 has been downed twice in these scenarios. once was against an F16 but since the F16 was still marked as dead the f22 pilot would not consider it a threat.

the 2nd time against an F18 was a legit kill last time I checked. still 122-1? I'll take those odds when you consider the F22 is still in the learning phase. F22 was also designed for air supremacy anything else is what they put in after, rafael F35and typhoon are multirole.

[simsportif]

yeah yeah who are u to talk like if you'r a general of us army uuh?you know all action of us amry to say that

and look my english im sure you haven't this level in french so don't criticate

[syntaxerror9]

C'est vrai que la musique est pas terrible et ce même si tirée de la bande son de Top gun!

[simsportif]

france is not a superpower now but the usa is feared about our new weapons.the proofs?

the usa governement put the pression on all governement to don't command some french weapons

like the new leclerc the AUF1 GCT the and the rafale

[PlayerHater117]

I'm assuing english isn't a language you're fluent in. I'm not sure we fear you...or we're just being picky assholes...we're known to do both so it's anyone's guess. =)

[KekkonenKalasti]

Europe and US are on the same side since I last checked. Just a little chill from here up northern Europe. :)

I hope this whole "freedom fries"-derived nonsense will go away with the new president of that side of the pond, because that's what it is: nonsense. In the long run, we'll still stick together.

[DPat6590]

lol funny music

[gosupermario]

Great Video!!!

[ericevanson21]

france and america are both super powers in my opinion. im american and i like the frence they could kick russias ass.

[Champylol]

France isn't a super power but "only" a great power in my opinion.

[Antiworld23]

If France is super power then you might as well throw Brazil, Russia, China, India, Germany, Japan, South Korea in there while you're at it....in my opinion.

There are certain criteria for a Super Power and France meets NONE of them.

[kirkjamestkirk]

Well, what a about nukes! [by the way i'm not French]

[KatrinaX17]

@ericevanson21 If Hitler didn't go against Stalin in WW2, France and other European countries including U.K. could possibly be under Germany. Wether you're a commie or not, you or the French should be thankful for Stalin & vodka. lolz.

[Phantasmos]

@KatrinaX17, that is exactly what I've been saying all along. Hitler and that Japanese dude made a mistake by expanding w/o securing their current fronts. Sound Familiar. US is doing that in Iraq, Afgahanistan, Pakistan, Korea, Iran and wants to interfere in the Russian/Georgia issue and then there is Turgystan.Kergystan - catch the drift.

[chenoir]

@KatrinaX17

We are thankful to the russian who died in the WWII. Much more to the russian than to the american in fact, the russian have been there from the very beginning of the war and we have shared experience and pilots and fought alongside (Normandie Niemen). And the russian has paid the highest toll in human lives in this war.

[fmoa]

@chenoir get the fuck out of here..we should thanks the russians for ww2 victory..LOL,russia survive coz of supplies from the u.s..google "ww2 lend lease" n see witout supplies n war materials from u.s,russia would have lost the eastern front,also russian lost 10 million soldiers coz of poor strategy n winter save russia,ruski also didnt show up in pacific,southeast asia,north africa n mediterranean theater of ww2, russia never fought worldwide like the brits n u.s,only eastern front n thats it

[fmoa]

@chenoir oh n dont come wit the shit by saying russia defeated the nazi first n all that russia propaganda crap..the brits have already push back the nazi in norh africa before russia won a victory at stalingrad leningrad or whatever,it was the brits that prove the german can be hold off n are not that invincible..battle of britain was won before stalingrad too,you do know russia allied wit germany at beginning of ww2,like i said..russia never fought a world war like u.s n brits.

[SpeedyNeutrino43]

@ericevanson21 ....The French are known for spending money on innovative military projects. The Maginot Line comes to mind. That slowed up the Germans for at least 20 minutes.

[frowl01]

@SpeedyNeutrino43 HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. SO true...

[68Melc]

@SpeedyNeutrino43

Actually, that's one of the most common myth in history : "The Maginot Line was useless". When the armistice was signed, it was still served by 400.000 french soldiers, that became POW instantly.

Plus, dont' forget that the Alpine maginot line, served by 120.000 french soliders, and not the best one, successfully hold off 300.000 italian soliders without much of a casualty...

[vk45de]

@68Melc It wasn't useless but was A LOT less useful than advertised. It was supposed to protect all of France not just the solders manning it.

[chenoir]

@vk45de

The problem was we did'nt build it on the belgian border, both because we were not thinking germany will be attacking belgium, and because in termes of diplomacy, building an armored frontier with Belgium would have been interpreted as an insult or a sign of defiance.

[vk45de]

@chenoir Yes, and that's why it was such a blunder.

[afterburner94]

Vos gueules, c'est Take My Breath Away de Berlin...C'est une des chansons de Top Gun, allez reviser vos classique jeune tectoniques

[narutofullhd]

la video de merde sérieu XD

[swayoflife]

c la musique qui est merdique mais la vidéo est bien