Nuclear people! Listen to me and accept it before it's too late! What will power the nation when we use electric cars? Nuclear! Done right something like 200,000 mega watts. You can't send power from Californian deserts, etc. to NY, but you can put a nuclear reactor just about anywhere.
This guy is expecting the US to have an armed conflict with Taiwan (Republic of China) 32:10 while discussing manufacturing in the People's Republic of China?
We need to move away from the concept of suburbia, and into New Urbanism; which is really a very old concept. Where everything is within walking distance of people's homes.
Just doing this will solve numerous problems with our society.
We need to do that across the board first. Then, we can start fixing the other problems piece meal.
living in Suburbs/hate it. moving closer to the city but know that is not the answer either.. What is? Good solutions in this video!! Returning to the Earth and the Natural Ways of Our Ancestors is vital for this Age of Consciousness and Global Love. The Truth is this Crisis is Man Made and Imposed on the People, Animals, Earth!! ((WE)) have ALL the Answers we "NEED" i hate that word as it implies "Scarcity/Lack Of Consciousness" but Yes, Zero Point Energy and Sustainability is our ONLY Future!
They are probably correct about the future changes, but I think people - particularly Americans will prove to be far more adaptable in the end. It will be a shock, and there will be lots of belt tightening, and weight loss, but people will survive.
@98donkeydude I'm just saying that there will still be people left. I was being subtle by saying there will be lots of belt tightening, and weight loss. Certainly the weak and the ones who cannot adapt to change will have a bad go of it.
My main question is how fast it will all go down. If it will be overnight, or more gradual.
@EarTipper hm. what you seem to be suggesting is natural selection would pick them off; I quite agree on that. My main point was that its very silly to pick americans out as the "survivors" when historically we are terrible at adapting to changes.
@EarTipper -- My main question is how fast it will all go down. If it will be overnight, or more gradual.
It depends on how willing Americans as a whole are to wake up and realize just how stupid and how dangerous it is for our entire way of life to be almost completely based on one commodity -- whether we are willing to make the necessary effort to develop a variety of other alternatives in time (if it isn't already too late). It won't happen overnight. but it will be noticeable.
Not sure if I get the attack on the suburbs here. If we all lived in cities, wouldn't we still be using fossil fuels? I understand the creation of suburbs have put pressure on demand but in the world before suburbs hadn't we already begun going down this path?
Suburbs have worked like an acceleration, had we all stayed in the citys fossile fuel consumption would be allot lower, however quality of life would have been allot lower to wich makes it only logical that we didnt.
It's a bit like insects who suddenly get a source of growth from lets say a leftover food, they dont think ahead either but they exploit that source ever more faster untill its nearly gone and then they suddenly face the consequences of their expansion.
well for the most part this is true and i can agree with it. However there is no mention of untapped reserves. Most of the world remains geologically unexplored. Huge parts of Northern Siberia is unexplored, Huge areas of the Pacific are unexplored, South Atlantic and more are unexplored and we simply do not know if there is or there is NOT any reserve. One thing is certain it will run out and the question now is what is the viable alternative?
@contemporarymonk probably because those reserves do not belong to us. Even if there is a huge amount of oil in siberia, that doesn't mean its ours to take.
We need to recognize how this video doesn't reach the real issues. It is likely that any extended outage of energy will result in deaths and a large amount of them.
If we plan we can be ahead of the game, but this game changer hugely means greatly lowering our standard of living while we place far greater energy into work.
Haven't these people heard of the internet. Imagine how much oil could be saved if your home could be equiped like your office. The internet is so advanced and efficient that you could run a business on the other side of the world from your home.
Are suburbs going to become the slums of the future?
Hopefully. I hate suburbs. I wish we'd never moved out of the cities. You can live in a city and never use a car. And suburbs are sprawls of lawns that don't replace nature so I don't understand that aspect of it either. It's harder to make friends because you have to drive forever to get to decent places to eat and drink out and the people there don't live near you and won't be there again for a good while. Suburbia really sucks.
Second best documentary ever made (the first was made my a lady who went to the oscars and had her day there with a whole load of messy peolple trying to do her hair nice and tidy (ah dear, what a world we live in). Count down to 0
It's interesting to approach this documentary from the perspective of what's going down against Wall Street, about lack of jobs etc. The promise that we MUST go to college or we are losers is just as hoodwinked as the promise of nice easy living in Suburbia for everyone. Baby Boomers were really crappy at producing a sustainable economy and planning for retirement and if it doesn't hit us our oil wells first, it's already hitting our wallets.
@chadberry75 You can tell that this documentary is a fear mongering campaign. How can u tell? There is not a word about solutions...industrial hemp alone can handle 50% of the nation's oil needs..thermal depolymerization can handle a big chunk, too..also they fail to mention how in the 70's blueprints were created for a Solar Space Power Satellite..they put it on the rocks saying it was too expensive..oddly, the "war on terror" thus far has cost nearly 10x the amount of a solar space panel
Oil is not a fossil fuel, that's a myth. It is a replenishable source. There is no 'peak oil', it is a lie used by the huge cartels and banking families who run things. It's the same as the 'food shortage' and the 'water shortage'. They create and use the perception of scarcity to keep us under their control. Wake up people, it's a scam!
There is already statistical data available revealing that the poverty increases in he suburbs and that suburbs are already beginning to become the slums of our days. This has been predicted for many years and it is confirmed by current trends. Very interesting and not surprising anymore.
New oil and gas extraction techniques have dated this show, and delayed the energy armageddon, though, ironically, the economic collapse of 2008 has produced some of the dire consquences that were predicted in this show. The end of the American dream is due now to the US becoming a part of the world economy. Energy efficient economies have a lower cost of production. For America: economic malaise today, energy crisis in some future tomorrow.
i´ve got a question, maybe one mercyful soul in the audience may answer it: why oil is cheaper now than it was in 06 and 07? if theorethycally we already peaked? if we still live oil dependent lifes and suposedly oil has already peaked, why then is a barrell of oil cheaper now that 5 years ago?
We havent peaked yet, last 2 years production has reached new record high's.
What seems to have peaked is conventional oil production (the easy oil that simply flows out).
And the average production costs are about 18-19$ a barrel (worldwide) so compare that with the market price and you can easily say there is allot of speculation.
However... we have build our society on cheap oil (bellow 15$ a barrel) and those times are over.
Look at a historic productionchart of production and one can see a massive rise afther WW2 till the 70's and it was also in those days when more people then ever got acces to the 'middle class' life in the develloped world.
Afther the oil crisis production never again rose as greatly as before and the middle class life hardly grew anymore.
Nowadays oil production is growing slower and slower and the middle class has allready started to decline.
@Clausewitzz i already know that dude. i´m not saying that peak oil isn´t true, what i asked is why, if we already peaked, is oil cheaper today than it was 5 years ago? what caused this?
Price is a matter of supply and demand, even afther peak oil demand can still drop allot (thanks to economic decline most likely) and that would reduce the oil price allot, untill demand rises again.
It's easy to think peak oil means record oil prices forever, and we surely will see lot's of record's but when demand drops bellow production levels then the price will drop.
Many experts on this predicted this up and down price trend once peak oil would start to come close.
The Catholic church knew the earth was round, they tried to hide it. The bible never says the earth is flat, by the way.
Also, crude oil is abiotic, meaning it replenishes itself. This was discovered in the 1800's. Maybe we're using it up faster than it can replenish, that I don't know.
I've heard about a statistic that states; if the wealth of the world was spread equally, every family on earth could afford their own single family house.
Save oil, use condoms! This is the only truth nobody is willing to acknowledge. Mankind does not have an oil crisis, a fish crisis, which peak was in the 90', or you name "crisis" what we really have is planet earth having a human crisis with earth been over populated with our specie which became a plague. Period! How hard can it be to understand that?
Peak oil/gas/coal/(put in any NON-RENEWABLE, FINITE resource of energy) will reverse globalization, indeed! New discoveries of fields or technology to suck that energy out of the earth just delays this by a few months or years. So, all here able to use a computer will live to see these changes come upon us.
I am surprised that there still so many flat earthers not wanting to understand...
@miketonon thanks for your answer. You are right, but we do not have the time to wait that long or invest that much energy. Please get knowledge beyond what was found in the 1800's ;-)
A good movie explaining the conditions required to "cook" crude and recent findings in science where you do not need a PhD to understand the details is ABC's "Crude - The incredible journey of oil" that you can find here on youtube. In case I am wrong, I do not deserve my PhD ;-) Have fun and enjoy the truth.
@djbungeede, I don't need a PhD to understand anything, thats just paperwork. If I want to understand something enough, I will become familiar with it regardless of credentials. Its common sense that if we don't personally know something to be true, WE simply don't know, regardless of what we're told and by whom. Nice try twisting things, but if crude oil replenishes itself, enough said.
Dear @miketonon, thanks again for your answer. You are right: no need for a PhD. However, people now do indeed know about the peak of non-renewable energy. I have got a PhD, which does not play a role, of course, but I - and people you mentioned who are or have become familiar with the topic - know that for oil to replenish itself will take a time scale beyond our reasonable measure. You might find "Crude OIL" here on youtube interesting. link: youtube /watch?v=BVIl3CcmgzE or watch it on ABC
Dear @miketonon, thanks again for your answer. You are right: no need for a PhD. However, people now do indeed know about the peak of non-renewable energy. I have got a PhD, which does not play a role, of course, but I - and people you mentioned who are or have become familiar with the topic - know that for oil to replenish itself will take a time scale beyond our reasonable measure. You might find "Crude OIL" here on youtube interesting. link: youtube /watch?v=BVIl3CcmgzE or watch it on ABC
additionally, if you are really interested, I can send you several links with publications where you get basic information. Some general info: en. wikipedia. org /wiki /Peak_oil
Very interesting is the first puplication by Prof. Hubbert wordwideweb. hubbertpeak. com /hubbert /1956 /1956.pdf
Funny is that back in 1956 nuclear energy was considered an endless ressource. We now know better, but the peak of oil production for the US has occured in 1970 as calculated in 1956
@djbungeede, have you heard of a company called Glycan? I've heard that they are working with some very advanced technologies that could replace dirty technologies right now, if the demand was there.
You can tell this video was made before the housing crash and the recent precipitous drop in natural gas prices due to new discoveries. It does however, provide food for thought. The hand wringing and doom though is a bit over the top. I mean look at coal. Worst comes to worst, people are not going to lay down and die. They will burn wood, coal or whatever to survive. These Malthusian predictions are usually wrong.
I'll take my concrete SUV in the cul de sac over a concrete cardboard box on the 5th floor of a filthy street any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'll also enjoy working from my home office and not commuting to the city for work. That's right, technology can help solve our energy concerns. More and more companies are allowing telecommuting every day. Oh, BTW, all my needs are met within 1 mile of my house. I can walk there too but I don't have to worry about getting shot on the way.
This is the first time I've herd anyone say to stay in the city verses get out of the city when SHTF! I would rather run out of fuel and trade my truck for a horse and wagon! Out where I live, we could survive off the land, barter and trade. I'll sell you city folk my Vegetables, Smoked Ham, Deer Roast & steak, Stewing Rabbits, Catfish, Chickens & Eggs, Goat cheese and milk....U might be needing some fire wood too! ;)
this problem with gas is actually easy to solve bring back the trains for transportation we got little to no trains in the U.S and with train like the Maglev that are not only fast as hell but also use very little energy there is not excuse for people on the government other than they are up to their asses invested in oil.
@MrJero85 Yours are not the type of suburb this video is talking about. I'm going to guess that you probably live in an older suburb that was built close to a city center. This video is talking about the endless seas of tract homes you see when you get outside of a city and are sitting on land that is of little use to farmers (too dry, valued too high, etc) but far from the city. I would love to live in a historic suburb of my native city; Denver. But most new(er) developments are unsustainable.
oil is at 100 dollar today... spain greece portugal island and many arab countries like egypt, tunisia, algeria, sudan have food prices increase of 20 to 40 percent or incapacity to pay debt which means they wont borrow soon...Oil is the cause of all of this not the credit crunch. oil was at 20 dollars in the 90s everyone enjoyed it but at 100 some have harder time keeping with the pace of price increase...At 130 dollars other dominoes should fall, validating my theorie
This documentary is showing it's age. Simmons is now dead, Ruppert is now retired from writing about collapse, and the documentary doesn't do the seriousness of this situation justice. We're facing problems of peak oil, climate change, overpopulation, and mass extinction, and the idea that these problems will be solved by converting suburbs to "new urbanism" is a little naive.
You want to talk about sprawl come to Jax fla the largest city landwise in the usa..Look it up.. No sense of community.Racism is terrible and the baptists are corrupt as it gets.
People need to understand that developers are manipulating government departments via donations in order to get 1st preference over the community. As a town planner working in government for 10 years I became aware of the "false economy" that was generated through dirty deals at the expense of the community and environment. Don't be fooled when they say "public consultation". It means nothing !! It just means canvassing issues & promoting a development where people get NO SAY at all.....
Here's a list of America's biggest problems: chain stores lack of mass transit consumerism car culture conservatives ignorance lack of national healthcare fear of "socialism" car companies idiots in powerful positions (i e. Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Mitt Romney etc etc....) general laziness inability to work out any solutions, just months of debate in washington oil companies fear of high taxes This list could go on for miles, but these are some general reasons:(
@xxx2397 Forbes Magazine conducted a poll 2-3 years ago rating the public transport of 250 of biggest cities in the World. It was concluded that the Indians have the most efficient public transport with 3 cities in the top ten.
40:05 it takes more energy to make hydrogen than u get from a hydrogen? what?
Stupid explanation. What he means is that it takes more energy to start the process than you get from the process. But not if they can develop the technology.
For trains, we'll be using those old fashioned pullies they used on the train tracks back in the old days? I forget their name but hopefully you know what I mean: the kinetic energy from two individuals pulling up and down on the device causes it to move along the rail tracks. Just hope the poor guys won't be shot at or sniped at by rather unkind characters as soon as they come out a train tunnel.
Also in Sydney, all trains except those on the Hunter line are electric-powered, and more and more buses are powered by natural gas, and we're even introducing trolley buses and trams.
In Sydney, people living in, for instance Newington, can WALK to their local shopping centre through the park, interacting with people, burning calories, and enjoying the fresh air. And while a lot of local malls in LA like to stock a Wal-Mart, in Newington, Sydney, you catch a bus to Parramatta and go shopping for clothes in the Myer, DJs, Big W, or K-Mart, and again, NOT DRIVING. Then catch a bus back at the transport interchange, and getting back. All this while, you have not polluted.
...And still improving mass transit and public transport in these areas and teaching and bringing the advantages of choosing public transport over cars. Now, for shopping 4 groceries in LA, people drive to their local strip mall, shop, and drive back, which means polluting, no interaction with people, and weight gain by maybe stopping at the McDonalds there.
Sydney has taken a great approach to this issue. We are now going through our last stages of sprawl in the north-west and south-west. While we shouldn't be sprawling anymore anyway, these new suburbs are completely and efficiently covered by public transport including the construction of new rail lines, building away from highways and major roads rather than on them, and building high-rises and apartments in major areas outside of the city centre, such as Chatswood, Penrith, Parramatta...
@angel55676 And how do you get to the train station? Drive? It's not good enough. What is needed are local PRT systems, that also connect to main rail lines to other parts of the city. Housing need to be denser as well.
This was in 2004? The experts interviewed here predicted recession, which we all know has happened, then they predict a few years of normal living after the recession, then we will be hit hard. If these guys are right(like they were about the recession) between now and 2020 a major oil crisis will occur.
@rosscol601 Most likely between now and 2014 ... you know it is serious when even the head of IEA admits that "the governments should have started planning for this 10 years ago"
"New Urbanism" - a RADICAL concept in living?? Tell that to any European - we on average live longer, healthy live on a half of the oil each US citizen does. Quadruple your ridiculously low petrol prices and reduce abundant wastage and take 15 years to alter and plan your way out of the nightmare scenario instead of continuing to waste a product you have no respect for due to its artificailly low price. Save yourselves? Or blame China etc for following our lead.
@sapperzulu Suicide rates and suburban living are definitely not related. Mexico has lower suicide rates than US. Egypt suicide rates are even lower, and they are 80 million people living in a country where 98% of the territory is uninhabitable desert, which puts the average density for the 2% inhabitable part of the country at 5300 people per square mile, packed along whatever industry and agriculture they still have.
@NRPK35 If people would do it, that would be great. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen that way. People will try as hard as they can to pretend it's not happening until they literally come up against a wall. That one price increase in fuel will knock on to groceries and plastics and so on and so forth and it will all collapse. There will be panic and destruction and death, and only then will the survivors rebuild from the ruins of the "American Dream:.
@NRPK35 say what you want about us and our energy problems, but just take another look through history about how many times America stepped in to save europes ass. WWII wasn't that long ago..
The end of capitalism, hooray. Fuck the economy, fuck the economists, they are the cunts that attempt to justify the entire scam. These bastards are the stooges of capitalism. Economics is a collection of lies and half truths, that dress-up organised robbery as science.
@HelmetBlissta yo but this isnt a fault of capitalism. this is a fault of previous generations successfully accomplishing what they wanted. they wanted easy living and they got it, but it came at an unforseen price. also it was seen as the way of the future and was subsidized which opened the flood gates of opportunity. that is the fault of centrally planned human action. we need to realize that individuals will best allocate their own resources as they see fit and a bureaucrat wont
@HelmetBlissta I mean in the late 1800s & early 1900s, capitalism was celebrated in the united states and look how much peoples lives changed from the civil war to ww1. since ww2 we've had a much more powerful govt with much more of a centrally planned economy and look how sluggish change has been to come. why? because of taxes, subsidies, monopolies (amtrak, gm), patent laws, etc... capitalism doesnt decide right or wrong it is just simply the best way to allocate resources in a way people want
@HelmetBlissta let me suggest Murray Rothbard. his lectures are profoundly insightful into how efficient action is rewarded in a capitalist system, whereas in socialism or communism, misallocation of resouces is rampant. the whole idea of capitalism is that those who provide best for the needs of the most people will gain a profit. think of microsoft and apple. whereas in communism an individual must conform to a possibly imperfect plan, think of american schools.
@HelmetBlissta now understand that i'm on your side about all this.. I just dont want you to think that george bush or dick chaney were capitalists. they were not and are not. theyre gangsters, pure and simply. bill gates however is a capitalist and he has helped many more people throughout the world than anyone aspousing a government planned "capitalism" ever could
@phroto13 Thanks for your cordial response. I agree we surely must be all on the same side, but I would hesitate before admiring billionaires. The world doesn't need and can't support billionaires without a lot of poor people to pay for them. I'm for a system change.
@Umba04 no lo so ma se capisci il spagnolo o il francese cerca "chris martenson" e guarda le video da lui. lui spiega quasi quasi il stesso messagio qual'e traduscito al spagnolo e francese . spero che t'ha aiutato
I don't really blame this all on oil and cheap energy. The beginning of this almost makes me feel like they are supporting mass transit and living on top of each other in high rises. The problem is people don't want to think about sustaining life, they think about money and power. If these small suburbs grew their own food and were friendly, they could sustain life without the need for money...but people aren't friendly like that :)
@DancingSpiderman You are the change. You wanna mass transit, move closer to the city, you want corner store? stop buying there and buy at the local mall or local store because there is still abundant of them. You want community, go and socialize on the weekend. You are the change.
no car. no job....they will not hire u on...if u tell them u take a bus 2 get in2 work...u will not get the job....its happened 2 me...when i waz younger...gas is almost $1.40 ''again''. cant wait till it's $1.85.a litre..that will b fun...''hijacking fuel truck time''..
@blacklot97 You should have kept watching, because it actually is a word. Check your dictionary. Had you been paying attention, you might have noticed that Kunstler is a wizard of words. He is an accomplished writer after all.
@ResilientCounty Touche, I was wrong and it is a word, but an unecessary one. There is no difference between saying problematic and problematical, except the the latter makes you sound like you're trying way too hard to sound intelligent. I don't know if I'd call him as wizard, maybe a shaman dancing around the totem of green counter culture. I don't mean to offend, the green movement has good aspects and bad like any other movement.
@blacklot97 I just don't think this piece presented enough hard facts, or any constructive criticism. I feel like most people already know that a non-renewable resource is just that, non-renewable. What these little pieces should focus on is fixing the problem, creative solutions should be offered instead of "Oh shat we've doomed ourselves".
@blacklot97 But, this was filmed quite a while ago and the point of the so called 'peak oil movement' was to raise awareness as there's too many people who dont realise whats going on as theyre too caught up in their own lives which brings me to my second point, the solutions such as solar power e.t.c haven't been done as they aren't profitable and sustainable living (living in communities and growing our own food) also isnt considered profitable by the people who run the worl/our countries!
@blacklot97 Which is sad but thats the reality of the way the world works unfortunately, all to do with money and greed which also upsets me as money doesnt mean anything if you think about it!! Anyways, all we can do is look after ourselves and people close to us.
"The opportunities for progress and change of a positive nature are absolutely tremendous.
Anybody who tells you that we're running out of resources or in a terrible mess are idiots. We can't run out of resources. Resources exist when the human mind sees how to use something, to say we're running out of resources is like saying we're running out of brain cells."
@Jcolinsol It seems to me that Wilson has no understanding of what "finite" resources are. We don't have millions of years to make more oil, natural gas, forests, silver, copper, uranium, topsoil, and all the other resources that industrial civilization depends on. On the other hand, we can procreate all the brain cells we want but that will just mean fewer resources to go around. Having said that, I do think it is a chance for us to evolve, but not before a couple generations of discomfort.
I am sure that he was aware of that. His point is, that a resource is part idea and part material. We seemingly have infinite ideas, and limited materials to work with. What's half of infinity? We never run out, we move on.
History is full of examples of people forecasting resource crises, particularly human populations outstripping resources, but those prophecies never came true. See James Burke's excellent "Connections" program for examples.
I think more of us should live in independant villages, like native americans did or in small towns. This is where we can opt out of the global world and worry about our families, relying on the protection and trusting of the American Government.
what a bullshit - there where allways houses just outside of the towns - and a suburban aeria would work fine without cars but just with a train ...:-/
@CapitanoGUC And where are those trains? Who is going to pay for them, especially now that the economy is collapsing under the weight of depletion? Where is the right-of-way to lay tracks? In low density areas, how much fun will it be to walk 15 minutes to get to the station, and 15 minutes back?
@ResilientCounty you crying about blody 15 minuts distance to the station ???? - thats fuking nothing - if you tak a push bike it will be 5 minutes. - thats nothing, unless you are an overwight, fat, hamburger eating person as you see lots of them in us-america - but especialy them, they shoul walk 30 minutes evry day ....:-/
@CapitanoGUC Mostly I'm "crying" about about how it's going to get built. And my point about walking is that the suburbs aren't built for walking ANYWHERE. In fact, many are laid out so you have to walk many times further than the crow flies. Traditional grids are more efficient. For people who aren't used to it, it's going to be a bitch.
And no, I'm not an overweight, fat, hamburger-eating person. Actually, I'm the producer/editor of the documentary.
@ResilientCounty hehehe - but railway can be build quickly if needed, cause it is still a buissiness for the railwaycompany - and to get too the station will be only a little problem if you are using a push bike or even alittle scooter or you take youre car just to get to youur lokal station .....
I got 99 problems but the bitch ain't one.
AAgodhates 1 day ago
Nuclear people! Listen to me and accept it before it's too late! What will power the nation when we use electric cars? Nuclear! Done right something like 200,000 mega watts. You can't send power from Californian deserts, etc. to NY, but you can put a nuclear reactor just about anywhere.
chucknorris687 1 day ago
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tdog2210000 4 days ago
This guy is expecting the US to have an armed conflict with Taiwan (Republic of China) 32:10 while discussing manufacturing in the People's Republic of China?
n5017858 1 week ago
i hate this video.
beenwiththebest 1 week ago
1:01 The fan box looks just like it does today, brand new from wal-mart/target
jaymorpheus11 2 weeks ago
This is just one problem of a hundred.
Our society is broken.
We need to move away from the concept of suburbia, and into New Urbanism; which is really a very old concept. Where everything is within walking distance of people's homes.
Just doing this will solve numerous problems with our society.
We need to do that across the board first. Then, we can start fixing the other problems piece meal.
AmericanUtopia 2 weeks ago
living in Suburbs/hate it. moving closer to the city but know that is not the answer either.. What is? Good solutions in this video!! Returning to the Earth and the Natural Ways of Our Ancestors is vital for this Age of Consciousness and Global Love. The Truth is this Crisis is Man Made and Imposed on the People, Animals, Earth!! ((WE)) have ALL the Answers we "NEED" i hate that word as it implies "Scarcity/Lack Of Consciousness" but Yes, Zero Point Energy and Sustainability is our ONLY Future!
riasunkissed27 2 weeks ago
um... buddy... it'll be mass starvation.
jaymorpheus11 2 weeks ago in playlist Peak Oil
They are probably correct about the future changes, but I think people - particularly Americans will prove to be far more adaptable in the end. It will be a shock, and there will be lots of belt tightening, and weight loss, but people will survive.
EarTipper 2 weeks ago
@EarTipper haha... yeah, because americans are sooooo adaptable to changes, like energy consumption and war and gay marriage... so very adaptable XD
98donkeydude 2 weeks ago
@98donkeydude I'm just saying that there will still be people left. I was being subtle by saying there will be lots of belt tightening, and weight loss. Certainly the weak and the ones who cannot adapt to change will have a bad go of it.
My main question is how fast it will all go down. If it will be overnight, or more gradual.
EarTipper 2 weeks ago
@EarTipper hm. what you seem to be suggesting is natural selection would pick them off; I quite agree on that. My main point was that its very silly to pick americans out as the "survivors" when historically we are terrible at adapting to changes.
98donkeydude 2 weeks ago
@98donkeydude Right on. There are still a few people left with a 1776 inclination, but this kid is gonna be somebody's breakfast...
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EarTipper 2 weeks ago
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@EarTipper -- My main question is how fast it will all go down. If it will be overnight, or more gradual.
It depends on how willing Americans as a whole are to wake up and realize just how stupid and how dangerous it is for our entire way of life to be almost completely based on one commodity -- whether we are willing to make the necessary effort to develop a variety of other alternatives in time (if it isn't already too late). It won't happen overnight. but it will be noticeable.
OreadNYC 1 week ago
Not sure if I get the attack on the suburbs here. If we all lived in cities, wouldn't we still be using fossil fuels? I understand the creation of suburbs have put pressure on demand but in the world before suburbs hadn't we already begun going down this path?
glasfurd31 3 weeks ago
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Suburbs have worked like an acceleration, had we all stayed in the citys fossile fuel consumption would be allot lower, however quality of life would have been allot lower to wich makes it only logical that we didnt.
It's a bit like insects who suddenly get a source of growth from lets say a leftover food, they dont think ahead either but they exploit that source ever more faster untill its nearly gone and then they suddenly face the consequences of their expansion.
Clausewitzz 3 weeks ago
Watch Michael Rupport's 'Collapse' It will blow your mind.
HighDefDownLow 3 weeks ago
Just looking at the amount of views on this video confirms that the media is ignoring this issue- no one like bleak realities.
DfunkymonkK 1 month ago
well for the most part this is true and i can agree with it. However there is no mention of untapped reserves. Most of the world remains geologically unexplored. Huge parts of Northern Siberia is unexplored, Huge areas of the Pacific are unexplored, South Atlantic and more are unexplored and we simply do not know if there is or there is NOT any reserve. One thing is certain it will run out and the question now is what is the viable alternative?
contemporarymonk 1 month ago
@contemporarymonk probably because those reserves do not belong to us. Even if there is a huge amount of oil in siberia, that doesn't mean its ours to take.
98donkeydude 2 weeks ago
We need to recognize how this video doesn't reach the real issues. It is likely that any extended outage of energy will result in deaths and a large amount of them.
If we plan we can be ahead of the game, but this game changer hugely means greatly lowering our standard of living while we place far greater energy into work.
iansuderman 1 month ago
full version in high quality: watch?v=z2lm5TdQxz4
RancheroBFT 1 month ago 5
It's going to fun watching all the dumbasses come to terms with this.
troglodyte2084 1 month ago
What are the foreseen societal impacts of Peak Oil?
upoma21 1 month ago 2
@upoma21 are you in stephan larose's class?
mhawkes18 1 month ago
@mhawkes18 Lol. I am. Do you want to share some ideas for the exam?~
Nczed 1 month ago
@Nczed Yes!! What is your email?
mhawkes18 1 month ago
@mhawkes18 woooooooooooo i want in on this :) mmuha047@uottawa.ca
RRedAlertt 1 month ago
@RRedAlertt sent!
mhawkes18 1 month ago
America is going to hell in a hand cart. Bye bye America.
Kousaburo 1 month ago
Haven't these people heard of the internet. Imagine how much oil could be saved if your home could be equiped like your office. The internet is so advanced and efficient that you could run a business on the other side of the world from your home.
dmitr1989 1 month ago
@dmitr1989
yes but internet means computer
computer means energy and that means oil or sun, water or other sort of energy
GodsVileandDarkwing 1 month ago
Anyone else here because of their urban studies class?
Lambo3288 2 months ago 2
Are suburbs going to become the slums of the future?
Hopefully. I hate suburbs. I wish we'd never moved out of the cities. You can live in a city and never use a car. And suburbs are sprawls of lawns that don't replace nature so I don't understand that aspect of it either. It's harder to make friends because you have to drive forever to get to decent places to eat and drink out and the people there don't live near you and won't be there again for a good while. Suburbia really sucks.
Shimarisu1 2 months ago
Second best documentary ever made (the first was made my a lady who went to the oscars and had her day there with a whole load of messy peolple trying to do her hair nice and tidy (ah dear, what a world we live in). Count down to 0
u0928450 2 months ago
It's interesting to approach this documentary from the perspective of what's going down against Wall Street, about lack of jobs etc. The promise that we MUST go to college or we are losers is just as hoodwinked as the promise of nice easy living in Suburbia for everyone. Baby Boomers were really crappy at producing a sustainable economy and planning for retirement and if it doesn't hit us our oil wells first, it's already hitting our wallets.
ccricers 2 months ago
WOW!
HempOilForPower 2 months ago
farmers are fucked...
chadberry75 2 months ago
@chadberry75 You can tell that this documentary is a fear mongering campaign. How can u tell? There is not a word about solutions...industrial hemp alone can handle 50% of the nation's oil needs..thermal depolymerization can handle a big chunk, too..also they fail to mention how in the 70's blueprints were created for a Solar Space Power Satellite..they put it on the rocks saying it was too expensive..oddly, the "war on terror" thus far has cost nearly 10x the amount of a solar space panel
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Oil is not a fossil fuel, that's a myth. It is a replenishable source. There is no 'peak oil', it is a lie used by the huge cartels and banking families who run things. It's the same as the 'food shortage' and the 'water shortage'. They create and use the perception of scarcity to keep us under their control. Wake up people, it's a scam!
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ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR 2 months ago
The most problematic fact to the peak problem is not suburbia, it is food. Our food production is based on the massive use of fertilizers.
DavidMDescamps 2 months ago 2
There is already statistical data available revealing that the poverty increases in he suburbs and that suburbs are already beginning to become the slums of our days. This has been predicted for many years and it is confirmed by current trends. Very interesting and not surprising anymore.
djbungeede 3 months ago
New oil and gas extraction techniques have dated this show, and delayed the energy armageddon, though, ironically, the economic collapse of 2008 has produced some of the dire consquences that were predicted in this show. The end of the American dream is due now to the US becoming a part of the world economy. Energy efficient economies have a lower cost of production. For America: economic malaise today, energy crisis in some future tomorrow.
mikeyme1487 3 months ago
i´ve got a question, maybe one mercyful soul in the audience may answer it: why oil is cheaper now than it was in 06 and 07? if theorethycally we already peaked? if we still live oil dependent lifes and suposedly oil has already peaked, why then is a barrell of oil cheaper now that 5 years ago?
shreder89 3 months ago
@shreder89
We havent peaked yet, last 2 years production has reached new record high's.
What seems to have peaked is conventional oil production (the easy oil that simply flows out).
And the average production costs are about 18-19$ a barrel (worldwide) so compare that with the market price and you can easily say there is allot of speculation.
However... we have build our society on cheap oil (bellow 15$ a barrel) and those times are over.
Clausewitzz 3 months ago
Look at a historic productionchart of production and one can see a massive rise afther WW2 till the 70's and it was also in those days when more people then ever got acces to the 'middle class' life in the develloped world.
Afther the oil crisis production never again rose as greatly as before and the middle class life hardly grew anymore.
Nowadays oil production is growing slower and slower and the middle class has allready started to decline.
I think you can predict the next part yourself.
Clausewitzz 3 months ago
@Clausewitzz i already know that dude. i´m not saying that peak oil isn´t true, what i asked is why, if we already peaked, is oil cheaper today than it was 5 years ago? what caused this?
shreder89 3 months ago
@shreder89
Price is a matter of supply and demand, even afther peak oil demand can still drop allot (thanks to economic decline most likely) and that would reduce the oil price allot, untill demand rises again.
It's easy to think peak oil means record oil prices forever, and we surely will see lot's of record's but when demand drops bellow production levels then the price will drop.
Many experts on this predicted this up and down price trend once peak oil would start to come close.
Clausewitzz 3 months ago
You have to be a flat earther not to see what is going on. As one cannot post links here, but you all should also watch ABC's documentary
Crude - The Incredible Journey of Oil
(ABC TV and DVD), 2007
available online on the ABC website including additional info or her on youtube under watch?v=BVIl3CcmgzE
djbungeede 3 months ago
9:51 i would have smacked her and told her u forgot the kitchen
kytron121 3 months ago
2:08 yes.... :D
Neilish47 3 months ago
The Catholic church knew the earth was round, they tried to hide it. The bible never says the earth is flat, by the way.
Also, crude oil is abiotic, meaning it replenishes itself. This was discovered in the 1800's. Maybe we're using it up faster than it can replenish, that I don't know.
I've heard about a statistic that states; if the wealth of the world was spread equally, every family on earth could afford their own single family house.
miketonon 3 months ago
Fat-Boy needs his 3000-mile Seezer Salad
DancingSpiderman 3 months ago
humans are fucking idiots and will only wake up when it's 100% too late.. just wait and see
Aleque 3 months ago
something is missing from this video...
on the dvd, there is mention of US doctrine to secure oil militarily and a reinstating of the draft.
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mydogspotproductions 4 months ago
Save oil, use condoms! This is the only truth nobody is willing to acknowledge. Mankind does not have an oil crisis, a fish crisis, which peak was in the 90', or you name "crisis" what we really have is planet earth having a human crisis with earth been over populated with our specie which became a plague. Period! How hard can it be to understand that?
leonardoatx3 4 months ago
@leonardoatx3 Tell it to the Third World, tuff guy. I've been there. They don't take kindly to know-it-alls telling them how to live.
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miketonon 3 months ago
Peak oil/gas/coal/(put in any NON-RENEWABLE, FINITE resource of energy) will reverse globalization, indeed! New discoveries of fields or technology to suck that energy out of the earth just delays this by a few months or years. So, all here able to use a computer will live to see these changes come upon us.
I am surprised that there still so many flat earthers not wanting to understand...
djbungeede 4 months ago
@djbungeede, crude oil is abiotic, meaning it replenishes itself. That was found in the 1800's.
miketonon 3 months ago
@miketonon thanks for your answer. You are right, but we do not have the time to wait that long or invest that much energy. Please get knowledge beyond what was found in the 1800's ;-)
A good movie explaining the conditions required to "cook" crude and recent findings in science where you do not need a PhD to understand the details is ABC's "Crude - The incredible journey of oil" that you can find here on youtube. In case I am wrong, I do not deserve my PhD ;-) Have fun and enjoy the truth.
djbungeede 3 months ago
@djbungeede, I don't need a PhD to understand anything, thats just paperwork. If I want to understand something enough, I will become familiar with it regardless of credentials. Its common sense that if we don't personally know something to be true, WE simply don't know, regardless of what we're told and by whom. Nice try twisting things, but if crude oil replenishes itself, enough said.
miketonon 3 months ago
Dear @miketonon, thanks again for your answer. You are right: no need for a PhD. However, people now do indeed know about the peak of non-renewable energy. I have got a PhD, which does not play a role, of course, but I - and people you mentioned who are or have become familiar with the topic - know that for oil to replenish itself will take a time scale beyond our reasonable measure. You might find "Crude OIL" here on youtube interesting. link: youtube /watch?v=BVIl3CcmgzE or watch it on ABC
djbungeede 3 months ago
Dear @miketonon, thanks again for your answer. You are right: no need for a PhD. However, people now do indeed know about the peak of non-renewable energy. I have got a PhD, which does not play a role, of course, but I - and people you mentioned who are or have become familiar with the topic - know that for oil to replenish itself will take a time scale beyond our reasonable measure. You might find "Crude OIL" here on youtube interesting. link: youtube /watch?v=BVIl3CcmgzE or watch it on ABC
djbungeede 3 months ago
additionally, if you are really interested, I can send you several links with publications where you get basic information. Some general info: en. wikipedia. org /wiki /Peak_oil
Very interesting is the first puplication by Prof. Hubbert wordwideweb. hubbertpeak. com /hubbert /1956 /1956.pdf
Funny is that back in 1956 nuclear energy was considered an endless ressource. We now know better, but the peak of oil production for the US has occured in 1970 as calculated in 1956
djbungeede 3 months ago
@djbungeede, have you heard of a company called Glycan? I've heard that they are working with some very advanced technologies that could replace dirty technologies right now, if the demand was there.
miketonon 3 months ago
this documentary got dry.. or i think economic-type of documentaries arent my thing. but i do remember the blackout of 2003 xd
TDOTEMPIRE 4 months ago
You can tell this video was made before the housing crash and the recent precipitous drop in natural gas prices due to new discoveries. It does however, provide food for thought. The hand wringing and doom though is a bit over the top. I mean look at coal. Worst comes to worst, people are not going to lay down and die. They will burn wood, coal or whatever to survive. These Malthusian predictions are usually wrong.
TinyCaptainObviouss 4 months ago
I'll take my concrete SUV in the cul de sac over a concrete cardboard box on the 5th floor of a filthy street any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'll also enjoy working from my home office and not commuting to the city for work. That's right, technology can help solve our energy concerns. More and more companies are allowing telecommuting every day. Oh, BTW, all my needs are met within 1 mile of my house. I can walk there too but I don't have to worry about getting shot on the way.
mj91gt 4 months ago
the suburbs i moved out of ten years ago is now a ghetto paid for by gubernment programs like section 8
jdietz730 4 months ago
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TheGoodChap 4 months ago
Death to suburbia
LaughTonyLaugh 5 months ago
This is the first time I've herd anyone say to stay in the city verses get out of the city when SHTF! I would rather run out of fuel and trade my truck for a horse and wagon! Out where I live, we could survive off the land, barter and trade. I'll sell you city folk my Vegetables, Smoked Ham, Deer Roast & steak, Stewing Rabbits, Catfish, Chickens & Eggs, Goat cheese and milk....U might be needing some fire wood too! ;)
ricksspringfield45 5 months ago
this problem with gas is actually easy to solve bring back the trains for transportation we got little to no trains in the U.S and with train like the Maglev that are not only fast as hell but also use very little energy there is not excuse for people on the government other than they are up to their asses invested in oil.
thefaqyou 5 months ago
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thefaqyou 5 months ago
Canada is a gas producer. We sell gas to the US. Tax on gas throughout is 25 to 30%. Gas in Canada is 17% more expensive than the US.
JohnnyRock2000 5 months ago
Type Sparxism into YouTube to discover my solution to Peak Oil...start a goddamn movement!
simmyjaye 5 months ago
post-war WEALTH????
aivrsn75phila 5 months ago
good, maybe an end to our way of life will bring us together as a people
EATshitanddrinkbleac 5 months ago
Look I live in a suburb and can bike and or walk and or drive to two major economic centers...suburbs unsustainable? I laugh at the statement!
MrJero85 6 months ago
@MrJero85 Yours are not the type of suburb this video is talking about. I'm going to guess that you probably live in an older suburb that was built close to a city center. This video is talking about the endless seas of tract homes you see when you get outside of a city and are sitting on land that is of little use to farmers (too dry, valued too high, etc) but far from the city. I would love to live in a historic suburb of my native city; Denver. But most new(er) developments are unsustainable.
lalem91 5 months ago
@lalem91 In many places they destroyed great beautiful bottom land perfect for farming to build suburbs
LaughTonyLaugh 5 months ago
@MrJero85 You won't be in 50 years...
TheRealColiboy 1 month ago
oil is at 100 dollar today... spain greece portugal island and many arab countries like egypt, tunisia, algeria, sudan have food prices increase of 20 to 40 percent or incapacity to pay debt which means they wont borrow soon...Oil is the cause of all of this not the credit crunch. oil was at 20 dollars in the 90s everyone enjoyed it but at 100 some have harder time keeping with the pace of price increase...At 130 dollars other dominoes should fall, validating my theorie
ThenewDelmoniaco 6 months ago
This documentary is showing it's age. Simmons is now dead, Ruppert is now retired from writing about collapse, and the documentary doesn't do the seriousness of this situation justice. We're facing problems of peak oil, climate change, overpopulation, and mass extinction, and the idea that these problems will be solved by converting suburbs to "new urbanism" is a little naive.
oggleman 6 months ago
Back to the city and living wirh in walking distance of your job
rick6393 6 months ago
You want to talk about sprawl come to Jax fla the largest city landwise in the usa..Look it up.. No sense of community.Racism is terrible and the baptists are corrupt as it gets.
TheGravygun 6 months ago
People need to understand that developers are manipulating government departments via donations in order to get 1st preference over the community. As a town planner working in government for 10 years I became aware of the "false economy" that was generated through dirty deals at the expense of the community and environment. Don't be fooled when they say "public consultation". It means nothing !! It just means canvassing issues & promoting a development where people get NO SAY at all.....
Stealthkeys77 6 months ago
xxx2397 6 months ago
We have a public transport system that the INDIANS (not native americans) would be ashamed of :(
xxx2397 6 months ago
@xxx2397 Forbes Magazine conducted a poll 2-3 years ago rating the public transport of 250 of biggest cities in the World. It was concluded that the Indians have the most efficient public transport with 3 cities in the top ten.
csurowka 6 months ago
DIE suburbia DIE
xxx2397 6 months ago
EXCELLENT film! A shame more people don't educate themselve's and break free from the ignorance we have been so ingrained with....
1madmaxx80 6 months ago
40:05 it takes more energy to make hydrogen than u get from a hydrogen? what?
Stupid explanation. What he means is that it takes more energy to start the process than you get from the process. But not if they can develop the technology.
dma777able 6 months ago
I hope we live in a matrix and someone will just shut it down very soon. That would be the wake up call we need. Otherwise we are sooo doomed.
MrKovlad 6 months ago
Well actually we do have an awesome railway system.
The transport Politic (a transit nut) article on the American Railroads:
thetransportpolitic. com/2011/06/29/freight-as-passenger-rails-worst-enemy-or-something-else/
Scoinsoffaterocks 6 months ago
I wouldn't be surprised if in the annals of history the 20th century is referred too as the "Age of Delusion."
leftycatchermit 6 months ago
For trains, we'll be using those old fashioned pullies they used on the train tracks back in the old days? I forget their name but hopefully you know what I mean: the kinetic energy from two individuals pulling up and down on the device causes it to move along the rail tracks. Just hope the poor guys won't be shot at or sniped at by rather unkind characters as soon as they come out a train tunnel.
Standuble 7 months ago
Also in Sydney, all trains except those on the Hunter line are electric-powered, and more and more buses are powered by natural gas, and we're even introducing trolley buses and trams.
angel55676 7 months ago
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In Sydney, people living in, for instance Newington, can WALK to their local shopping centre through the park, interacting with people, burning calories, and enjoying the fresh air. And while a lot of local malls in LA like to stock a Wal-Mart, in Newington, Sydney, you catch a bus to Parramatta and go shopping for clothes in the Myer, DJs, Big W, or K-Mart, and again, NOT DRIVING. Then catch a bus back at the transport interchange, and getting back. All this while, you have not polluted.
angel55676 7 months ago
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...And still improving mass transit and public transport in these areas and teaching and bringing the advantages of choosing public transport over cars. Now, for shopping 4 groceries in LA, people drive to their local strip mall, shop, and drive back, which means polluting, no interaction with people, and weight gain by maybe stopping at the McDonalds there.
angel55676 7 months ago
Sydney has taken a great approach to this issue. We are now going through our last stages of sprawl in the north-west and south-west. While we shouldn't be sprawling anymore anyway, these new suburbs are completely and efficiently covered by public transport including the construction of new rail lines, building away from highways and major roads rather than on them, and building high-rises and apartments in major areas outside of the city centre, such as Chatswood, Penrith, Parramatta...
angel55676 7 months ago
@angel55676 And how do you get to the train station? Drive? It's not good enough. What is needed are local PRT systems, that also connect to main rail lines to other parts of the city. Housing need to be denser as well.
icedanilzation 7 months ago
Well we do have a moon in are solar system that has rivers lakes and oceans of liquid natural gas. :D
deathdeathdeath4516 7 months ago
This was in 2004? The experts interviewed here predicted recession, which we all know has happened, then they predict a few years of normal living after the recession, then we will be hit hard. If these guys are right(like they were about the recession) between now and 2020 a major oil crisis will occur.
rosscol601 7 months ago
@rosscol601 Most likely between now and 2014 ... you know it is serious when even the head of IEA admits that "the governments should have started planning for this 10 years ago"
ClintDawg 7 months ago
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Americans are such wasters
1sashenka 7 months ago
"New Urbanism" - a RADICAL concept in living?? Tell that to any European - we on average live longer, healthy live on a half of the oil each US citizen does. Quadruple your ridiculously low petrol prices and reduce abundant wastage and take 15 years to alter and plan your way out of the nightmare scenario instead of continuing to waste a product you have no respect for due to its artificailly low price. Save yourselves? Or blame China etc for following our lead.
NRPK35 8 months ago 44
@NRPK35 why does Europe have a higher suicide rate?
sapperzulu 7 months ago
@sapperzulu because in the states u got drugs for any mental problem u have. in europe it´s harder to get some shit...
domdadon018 7 months ago
@sapperzulu Suicide rates and suburban living are definitely not related. Mexico has lower suicide rates than US. Egypt suicide rates are even lower, and they are 80 million people living in a country where 98% of the territory is uninhabitable desert, which puts the average density for the 2% inhabitable part of the country at 5300 people per square mile, packed along whatever industry and agriculture they still have.
mrhivefive 7 months ago
@NRPK35 Considering what is happening in Europe right now, I find your comment dramatically ironic.
GoingGoingGalt 6 months ago
@NRPK35 i gree with what you're saying , except for one thing. Quit calling it petrol It's called gas. EVERYbody calls it gas.
DancingSpiderman 5 months ago
@NRPK35 I yearn for a far simpler lifestyle. It will be a hard life, but far less complex.
AnimeShinigami13 3 months ago
@NRPK35 If people would do it, that would be great. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen that way. People will try as hard as they can to pretend it's not happening until they literally come up against a wall. That one price increase in fuel will knock on to groceries and plastics and so on and so forth and it will all collapse. There will be panic and destruction and death, and only then will the survivors rebuild from the ruins of the "American Dream:.
warpcrafter 3 months ago
@NRPK35 say what you want about us and our energy problems, but just take another look through history about how many times America stepped in to save europes ass. WWII wasn't that long ago..
Aerogue 3 months ago
i would call for captain planet...
SuperBigschlong 8 months ago
Yeh it is real easy to peak when they don't allow drilling where there is oil.
I Say abolish NAFTA and the EPA Close the Borders.
Start Drilling again! Stop investing Us Dollars in Brazilian oil
Impeach Barry Obama!
JJKHaywood 8 months ago
@JJKHaywood -get off of here, you republican idiot!! There is NO oil, and it's becuase of dumbasses like you!!
xxx2397 6 months ago
@xxx2397 bullshit!!!!
hex220 6 months ago
@JJKHaywood your comment made me lol. you people are such clowns, just keep blaming obama and sit around waiting for your "miracle weapon."
maxdecphoenix 6 months ago
The end of capitalism, hooray. Fuck the economy, fuck the economists, they are the cunts that attempt to justify the entire scam. These bastards are the stooges of capitalism. Economics is a collection of lies and half truths, that dress-up organised robbery as science.
HelmetBlissta 8 months ago
@HelmetBlissta yo but this isnt a fault of capitalism. this is a fault of previous generations successfully accomplishing what they wanted. they wanted easy living and they got it, but it came at an unforseen price. also it was seen as the way of the future and was subsidized which opened the flood gates of opportunity. that is the fault of centrally planned human action. we need to realize that individuals will best allocate their own resources as they see fit and a bureaucrat wont
phroto13 8 months ago
@HelmetBlissta I mean in the late 1800s & early 1900s, capitalism was celebrated in the united states and look how much peoples lives changed from the civil war to ww1. since ww2 we've had a much more powerful govt with much more of a centrally planned economy and look how sluggish change has been to come. why? because of taxes, subsidies, monopolies (amtrak, gm), patent laws, etc... capitalism doesnt decide right or wrong it is just simply the best way to allocate resources in a way people want
phroto13 8 months ago
@HelmetBlissta let me suggest Murray Rothbard. his lectures are profoundly insightful into how efficient action is rewarded in a capitalist system, whereas in socialism or communism, misallocation of resouces is rampant. the whole idea of capitalism is that those who provide best for the needs of the most people will gain a profit. think of microsoft and apple. whereas in communism an individual must conform to a possibly imperfect plan, think of american schools.
phroto13 8 months ago
@HelmetBlissta now understand that i'm on your side about all this.. I just dont want you to think that george bush or dick chaney were capitalists. they were not and are not. theyre gangsters, pure and simply. bill gates however is a capitalist and he has helped many more people throughout the world than anyone aspousing a government planned "capitalism" ever could
phroto13 8 months ago
@phroto13 Thanks for your cordial response. I agree we surely must be all on the same side, but I would hesitate before admiring billionaires. The world doesn't need and can't support billionaires without a lot of poor people to pay for them. I'm for a system change.
HelmetBlissta 8 months ago
I am not a "Peak Oiler", but we are readying for the collapse of the US way of life, secondary to Fiscall shenanigans by our so called "leaders"!
savgal1211 8 months ago
Salve, qualcuno sa dirmi se si trova in italiano e dove? grazie
Umba04 8 months ago
@Umba04 no lo so ma se capisci il spagnolo o il francese cerca "chris martenson" e guarda le video da lui. lui spiega quasi quasi il stesso messagio qual'e traduscito al spagnolo e francese . spero che t'ha aiutato
phroto13 8 months ago
@phroto13 Grazie adesso provo.
Umba04 8 months ago
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Grazie adesso provo.
Umba04 8 months ago
Greed is all behind this.
Dimitri0809 8 months ago
Peak oil, well lets put it this way. Peak Oil adds another large factor to the Drake Equation, one that earth, coincidentally, does not likely meet.
1981busch 8 months ago
I don't really blame this all on oil and cheap energy. The beginning of this almost makes me feel like they are supporting mass transit and living on top of each other in high rises. The problem is people don't want to think about sustaining life, they think about money and power. If these small suburbs grew their own food and were friendly, they could sustain life without the need for money...but people aren't friendly like that :)
amusingisthedawn 8 months ago
I'm a Generation Y Millenial. We want mass transit, not congested highways. We want corner stores, not wal-marts. We want community, not sprawl.
Peak oil is a good thing if you ask me.
Nightmonkey17 9 months ago 24
@Nightmonkey17 Welcome to the Venus Project.
miridem 5 months ago
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TheGoodChap 4 months ago
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TheGoodChap 4 months ago
@Nightmonkey17 "...We want mass transit, not congested highways. We want corner stores, not wal-marts. We want community, not sprawl."
I want chiggen; I want liver. Meow Mix - Meow Mix, please Deliver.
DancingSpiderman 3 months ago 5
@DancingSpiderman You are the change. You wanna mass transit, move closer to the city, you want corner store? stop buying there and buy at the local mall or local store because there is still abundant of them. You want community, go and socialize on the weekend. You are the change.
kessass83 1 month ago
Peak Oil is already here, so this will all happen sooner than you think!!!
wacekgniezno 9 months ago
I think he was right when he said our descendants are going to look at this era and wonder how we were so stupid.
TheMikeBodner 9 months ago
they never said anything about geothermal energy???
centipedeeater 9 months ago
I´m gona stay in Vault 101.
obbabob 9 months ago
GONNA LUV THE MAD MAX WORLD.....
chadberry75 9 months ago
Hydrogen cars cannot work in a cold climate. Imagine every car emitting water onto a frozen roadway. Zambonis everywhere!
sgtcrab1 9 months ago
I'm a future urban planner :p
hikusar 9 months ago
no car. no job....they will not hire u on...if u tell them u take a bus 2 get in2 work...u will not get the job....its happened 2 me...when i waz younger...gas is almost $1.40 ''again''. cant wait till it's $1.85.a litre..that will b fun...''hijacking fuel truck time''..
chadberry75 9 months ago
4:40 "Hydrogen is tremendously **problematical**"
Stopped watching right there. Problematical is not a word. You know this is legit when they had the chance to edit that out, but didn't.
blacklot97 9 months ago
@blacklot97 You should have kept watching, because it actually is a word. Check your dictionary. Had you been paying attention, you might have noticed that Kunstler is a wizard of words. He is an accomplished writer after all.
ResilientCounty 9 months ago
@ResilientCounty Touche, I was wrong and it is a word, but an unecessary one. There is no difference between saying problematic and problematical, except the the latter makes you sound like you're trying way too hard to sound intelligent. I don't know if I'd call him as wizard, maybe a shaman dancing around the totem of green counter culture. I don't mean to offend, the green movement has good aspects and bad like any other movement.
blacklot97 9 months ago
@blacklot97 I just don't think this piece presented enough hard facts, or any constructive criticism. I feel like most people already know that a non-renewable resource is just that, non-renewable. What these little pieces should focus on is fixing the problem, creative solutions should be offered instead of "Oh shat we've doomed ourselves".
blacklot97 9 months ago
@blacklot97 But, this was filmed quite a while ago and the point of the so called 'peak oil movement' was to raise awareness as there's too many people who dont realise whats going on as theyre too caught up in their own lives which brings me to my second point, the solutions such as solar power e.t.c haven't been done as they aren't profitable and sustainable living (living in communities and growing our own food) also isnt considered profitable by the people who run the worl/our countries!
jimmyfro1 8 months ago
@blacklot97 Which is sad but thats the reality of the way the world works unfortunately, all to do with money and greed which also upsets me as money doesnt mean anything if you think about it!! Anyways, all we can do is look after ourselves and people close to us.
jimmyfro1 8 months ago
Another eye opening documentary that proposes a possible solution to the types of social problems outlined in this film
Zeitgeist: Moving Forward
genanmer 9 months ago
"The opportunities for progress and change of a positive nature are absolutely tremendous.
Anybody who tells you that we're running out of resources or in a terrible mess are idiots. We can't run out of resources. Resources exist when the human mind sees how to use something, to say we're running out of resources is like saying we're running out of brain cells."
-Robert Anton Wilson
Jcolinsol 9 months ago
@Jcolinsol It seems to me that Wilson has no understanding of what "finite" resources are. We don't have millions of years to make more oil, natural gas, forests, silver, copper, uranium, topsoil, and all the other resources that industrial civilization depends on. On the other hand, we can procreate all the brain cells we want but that will just mean fewer resources to go around. Having said that, I do think it is a chance for us to evolve, but not before a couple generations of discomfort.
ResilientCounty 9 months ago
@ResilientCounty
I am sure that he was aware of that. His point is, that a resource is part idea and part material. We seemingly have infinite ideas, and limited materials to work with. What's half of infinity? We never run out, we move on.
History is full of examples of people forecasting resource crises, particularly human populations outstripping resources, but those prophecies never came true. See James Burke's excellent "Connections" program for examples.
Jcolinsol 9 months ago
"It's a happy-go-spending world!" Alas. Them good ol' times ;)
palegrey 9 months ago
Has anyone noticed when it switches to a old black and white film that there is a spot on the left that looks alot like a "flying bird"?
KhanoftheSith 9 months ago
AVICII
speeedkings 10 months ago
AVICII
speeedkings 10 months ago
I think more of us should live in independant villages, like native americans did or in small towns. This is where we can opt out of the global world and worry about our families, relying on the protection and trusting of the American Government.
malcolmX213 10 months ago
what a bullshit - there where allways houses just outside of the towns - and a suburban aeria would work fine without cars but just with a train ...:-/
CapitanoGUC 10 months ago
@CapitanoGUC And where are those trains? Who is going to pay for them, especially now that the economy is collapsing under the weight of depletion? Where is the right-of-way to lay tracks? In low density areas, how much fun will it be to walk 15 minutes to get to the station, and 15 minutes back?
ResilientCounty 10 months ago
@ResilientCounty you crying about blody 15 minuts distance to the station ???? - thats fuking nothing - if you tak a push bike it will be 5 minutes. - thats nothing, unless you are an overwight, fat, hamburger eating person as you see lots of them in us-america - but especialy them, they shoul walk 30 minutes evry day ....:-/
CapitanoGUC 10 months ago
@CapitanoGUC Mostly I'm "crying" about about how it's going to get built. And my point about walking is that the suburbs aren't built for walking ANYWHERE. In fact, many are laid out so you have to walk many times further than the crow flies. Traditional grids are more efficient. For people who aren't used to it, it's going to be a bitch.
And no, I'm not an overweight, fat, hamburger-eating person. Actually, I'm the producer/editor of the documentary.
ResilientCounty 10 months ago
@ResilientCounty hehehe - but railway can be build quickly if needed, cause it is still a buissiness for the railwaycompany - and to get too the station will be only a little problem if you are using a push bike or even alittle scooter or you take youre car just to get to youur lokal station .....
CapitanoGUC 10 months ago