@Auckletonline No dubt macedonians of FYROM dont want to accept they are a mixure of slavic nation. They are more bulgarian than any other slavic nation but take it easy when you talk about albanians. Dont be so hater. If albanians are mixed with turks etc greek olso are mixed with other nation especialy albanians if you want to be realistic. The only nation who have priority to talk about the old history are greeks, albanians, romanians, vlachs,
@CassanderMakedon Really ... and what about the indigenous Greek-speaking MAKEDONES you Bulgarian monkey ...? The ones you always seem to ignore. The ones that reside in the same land of the Makedones of old ... the ones who speak the language of the ancient Makedones and the ones that knew they were Makedones when your grandparenst were calling themselves Bulgarians ...
Πάντοτε μὴ λέγε, ἀλλὰ ἑκάστοτε καὶ διὰ παντός......THIS IS KOINE GREEK IDIOT!...THE SAME AS THE ANCIENT ONE AND THE MODERN ONE!...CLOSE YOUR FUCKING MOUTH NOW!
off course they will write Alexander of Macedon...IDIOT...like they will write Leonidas of Sparta!...YOU WILL NEVER PREVAIL WITH YOUR DISTORTION,...BASTARD!!!...OUST!!!! Whom are trying to kid..idiot,...the Greeks?...Do you think we don't know our own language and history?....GO COUCH A CHICKEN !...SHHHHHHHHHOOOOOUUUU!!!
You bastard!..The Homeric Greek,the classical,Greek the koine language, is one and the same ,and it's our language and we speak it today in Greece!..Stop your falsification and distortions of history!
GIVE THIS OLD BSTRD A GLASS OF VODKA HE NEEDS IT TO BREATHE...FYROMIANS VARDARSKIS IF U ARE NOT SLAVS WHAT IS THAT FKN LANGUAGE I HEAR YAK AND TAK MAKEDONIANS MEANING TALL PEOPLE ANCIENT GREEK LIKE ALEXANDER LIKE PHILIP LIKE ARISTOTELES HEARD THESE NAMES NO AT LEAST OTHER SLAVS HAVE SOME DIGNITY TO KNOW THEIR FATHERS ORIGINE AND THE BOOK THE OLD BASTARD SHOWING HAS PLAYBOY TRADEMARK IN SPONSORS HAHHAHAHAHAHAH
GIVE THIS OLD BSTRD A GLASS OF VODKA HE NEEDS IT TO BREATHE...FYROMIANS VARDARSKIS IF U ARE NOT SLAVS WHAT IS THAT FKN LANGUAGE I HEAR YAK AND TAK MAKEDONIANS MEANING TALL PEOPLE ANCIENT GREEK LIKE ALEXANDER LIKE PHILIP LIKE ARISTOTELES HEARD THESE NAMES NO AT LEAST OTHER SLAVS HAVE SOME DIGNITY TO KNOW THEIR FATHERS ORIGINE AND THE BOOK THE OLD BASTARD SHOWING HAS PLAYBOY TRADEMARK IN SPONSORS HAHHAHAHAHAHAH
GIVE THIS OLD MAN A BOTTLE OF VODKA HE NEEDS IT TO BREATHE...FYROMIANS FIND YOUR PLACE IN HISTORY YOU ARE NOT SLAVS HAAHA U ARE MECEDONIANS MEANING TALL PEOPLE IN ANCIENT GREEK....SO WHAT IS TAHT SHITTY LANGUAGE I HEAR IN THIS FKN VIDEO
alexander the great was a macedonian. he is not a gayreek bastard. if you dont accept this, than... mozete samo da jadete gomna i da vi ja ebam majkata grcka...
You cannot make the cultural links between Slavs, Bulgars, Magyars and Macedonians.
You can want to be Macedonians, but that will only make you wannabes.
You can find the Macedonians, living in Greece. They are proud to be Greeks, just like Alexander was proud to be Greek.
Unfortunately, your history was burned by the 2nd Ukrainean Front of the Soviet Army, lead by NKVD officers. Sorry, but it's the truth... your history was deleted. You are not Macedonians.
hahahaaaaa, borza himself says that fyroms population is slavic and can't establish a link with the ancient GREEK MACEDONIANS hahahaaaaaaaa:))))),
ignorant stupid skopjes!! U can't change history, the macedonians themselves said they were greek, The bible the word of god passed down to the prophets said they were Greek, is god confused as well now?? :)))), archeology and history says they are greeks!! Go back to bulgaria or stay & rename your country vardar bonavina fuck heads,stupid skopjes!
No wonder the people in Skopje become so fanatical, when every day they are being bombarded by crap like this. This idiot never read Borza . He is only falsifying EVERYTHING that Borza has written, AND he NEVER ONCE gave a reference. Would Borza for example mention Attic Greek as "Pelasgic-Attic"!!! All we hear is some guy speaking Bulgarian who claims that Borza said this and that and he is talking crap. Hammond never said that Philip was a western Bulgarian speaking Yugoslav!
On the other hand, the Macedonians are a newly emergent people in search of a past to help legitimize their precarious present as they attempt to establish their singular identity in a Slavic world dominated historically by Serbs and Bulgarians
The Macedonian kingdom was absorbed into the Roman Empire, never to recover its independence. During medieval and modem times, Macedonia was known as a Balkan region inhabited by ethnic Greeks, Albanians, Vlachs, Serbs, Bulgarians, Jews, and Turks.
Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom.
grekski, strundski wuti radi slaw katinski eti swadi like aleksandr de macedonsk said!!!
greeks never exist, this people are put there to problemice skopians!!! the thruth macedonsk people. eugene (i dont believe he has eu-gene) borza is everywhere known fuck the rest!!!
"...Yet, the vast majority of Greeks saw things differently indeed. Right down to the final decisive battle against the Persian Great King, Alexander had more Greeks fighting against him than for him.
Between 336 and 332, a significant number of Greek cities and federations of the mainland were at one time or another up in arms against him.
@HaggisMacfee Hey gypsy go seek your roots elsewhere not in those lands. Go read about the Rosete Stone and learn Macedonian grammar you'll need to understand what was writen on it, some of the "greek" university already started viewing it, and as it seems our language is not slavic but Macedonian.
And Macedonia was never province, Macedonia was a Kingdom! in the ancient times and it fought against the city-states.
The name Greece is brought in the 17th-18th century its not historic.
@abrasev88 No one is searching for roots in your lands, ancient Paeonia , I believe. Yes Macedonia was a Greek Kingdom. As for the ancient Macedonian language, it is well known, According to Eugene Borza and N G L Hammond, the ancient Macedonians spoke a PROTO-GREEK language while still in the Pindus mountains, By 500 BC ancient Macedonian was an AEOLIC GREEK dialect of the Western Greek language. Philip modified this to ATTIC GREEK which was spread by Alexander throughout Asia.
@HaggisMacfee How so Macedonia to be Greek? When "greeks" were organized in city-states and Macedonia was a Kingdom? + The therm "hellene" in ancient world was used for cultural generalization (like the therm "western" now) not as ethnic distinction.(Michael A. Dimitri, "The Radiance of Ancient Macedonia," Fort Wayne, 1992, pg. 17) Read it. It will blow your poisoned mind.
The Hellens as a etnic society was brought by several european writers in 18th century. Beat that.
Paul Cartledge also sais Macedonians are not greeks and Macedonia is not a greek state in his book "Alexander the Great"
Read this book too: Sarah B. Pomeroy, at. al., "Ancient Greece, Political, Social, and Cultural History," Second Edition, New York and Oxford, Oxford University Press, 2008
and here i quit debating with you. It is useless. I am Macedonian and your not, you have a right to be jealous,and i will encourage you to be what you are,not MKD
@HaggisMacfee Between them, Alexander and Antipater were responsible, as the Greeks saw it, for the final anahilation of Greek political liberty both in old Greece and in Asia. ...
How is this seeming paradox to be explained? I shall argue that there is, in fact, no paradox at all, and that Alexander's treatment of the Greeks -- all Greeks, both colectivelly and individually -- was entirely consistant! ..."
@abrasev [Richard Stoneman, 'Alexander the Great p.14] "In favour of the GREEK identity of the ancient Macedonians is what we know of their language, their place names, names of the month, and many of their personal names especially Royal names which are GREEK in roots and form. This suggests that the ancient Macedonians did not merely use GREEK as a lingua france, but spoke it as natives,( although with a local accent..............)
@HaggisMacfee Greeks called them self as romei in the 18th century said Pulevski in his book in the 19th ct.
Was the Persian Kingdom "greek" also?
And anout the Rosete Stone the second part is translated by Tome Bosevski and Aristotel Tentov and in the grammar found there it has the caracteristics of the Bitola speaking area. And is translated to the last sign.
Eugene Borza the leading hestoric distinct the greeks from Macedonians as difrent ethnic society.
"Both Bulgarians and Macedonians (Fyromians), cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom."
@CassanderMakedon h t t p : / / w w w . w i n g e d s a n d a l s . c o m /
pathetic and idiot loser perseas is a greek name and you can see in this link which the australian goverment created for its schools, what the world teaches its kids. about aristotle and alexander the greeks. about perseas being a greek name. so how does it feel to see that no one believes you? lolovski. navigate yourself through this link and get some education. even at this age. loser
@CassanderMakedon realy lets see on the times of the kings of makedonians is edessa on the times of bisandtium is edessa again on the times of the othoman ocupation is bodena end now again is edessa thats the names of the city my self end my ancestors have been born
An abundance of water is described with the word "vodi" in contemporary Macedonian language. The corresponding ancient Macedonian word for this is the word "vedy". The Greek archaeologist Aliki Stuyanaki in the periodical "Edesaika Hronika"(Edessa, may-august, 1972) advised that the Macedonian city of Voden, to which the Greeks gave the name "Edessa",was originally a Brygian city and its old name was Vedy which means abundance of water24)
why do you change the original ancient name of the town?
I remember the slavobulgars coming out of the cinemas after watching Oliver Stone's film holding their Tibetan flags and CRYING after listening to Alexander saying the phrase "for the glory of Greece".
It is difficult to know whether an independent Macedonian state would have come into existence had Tito not recognized and supported the development of Macedonian ethnicity as part of his ethnically organized Yugoslavia.
He did this as a counter to Bulgaria, which for centuries had a historical claim on the area as far west as Lake Ohrid and the present border of Albania.
“Macedonia Redux”, Eugene N. Borza, The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity, Frances B. Titchener and Richard F. Moorton, Jr., editors
you sneaky brainwashed bulgar admit that you have no history between the first and the sixth century and let's get it over with. arent you shocked that you just realised that that is a huge hole which you hadnt noticed??? LOOOOOOOOOOL
April 9th, 1861 Prima Justiniana or Ohrid There are no ‘Macedonians’. There are Bulgars! “Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no ‘Macedonians’. There are Bulgars.
I asked you first but like a good monkeydonian pussy that you are you dont have the balls to say i dont know because i am uneducated lol well you are not uneducated because there is no answer to this question...you were not near macedonian then lolovski
wow I am talking to a 30 y.o who lives in Germany and still he hasnt found out that he is not macedonian but bulgarian. lol i thought you were a 15 year old...what is wrong with you exactly??? the truth speaks for itself and you just cannot hear it..pathetic..just pathetic.
All of Borza's books say that alexander was greek. How brainwashing are your journalists? as much as your politicians? I am wondering if some of them actually believe the things they say! Borza says macedonia = greece and you say he says the opposite. Seriously people..WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU????
@CassanderMakedon LOL nice argument! typical for someone with no historical proof! hahaha yes before you were vardaskis ( vardaska ), prilepis ( kingdom of prilep) and now BOOOOM you are macedonians! how lame..Your name will be changed. You cant go on whit a stolen one! And of course you are in Germany..you were smart enough to leave the FYRO"M" shithole! But you are not smart enough to go to a library lol
Thats why the greeks come in Macedonia to see dentis or go in shoops.You have bigger salary but you have bigger prices on everiting than us.;)Soo the same.:)
@CassanderMakedon LOL all your shops, banks etc are greek..so we come to the future united Macedonia LOL. dont you see it???? even the food stores are greek ! we started the expansion! hahhaha
if you mean all markets only for VERO that is only in your brain.We have Tediko,Tinex,Ramstore markets all over Macedonia.
If you mean all banks for STOPANSKA BANKA that is only in your brain.We have UNI,TUTUNSKA,SPARKASE,OHRIDSKA BANKA - SOCIETE GENERALE,ZIRAT BANKS and all others.;)
Soo don't let them to brainwash you easy that everiting here is greek capital becaus is not!;)
Did you know that the boss of VERO markets his kids go to school in Macedonia!;)
@CassanderMakedon Borza not only is not on your side but he is one of the biggest supporters of the Greekness of Macedonia. And the shithole of the balkans is making a tv show to say the opposite! what kind of cuntry are you??!!! in your schools and university you teach false history..the media are brainwashing you! I pity you! really! since you live in germany you have to know that the young germans learn at school about Alexander and his GREEK MACEDONIA lol
@CassanderMakedon yes keep fooling yourself. the term macedonian means greek. as an athenean is greek. as a spartan is greekyour name was vardaska and kingdom of prilep and now that you stole are name you are macedonian?? lol . in school books the germans write that alexander spread the greek civilization, not the slav one ;-) so keep wanting greek history. it's flattering actually.
@CassanderMakedon do you know the official position of the countries that recognised you as macedonia? " we recognise macedonia and it's 1000 years of history" LOL do you know when alexander was born? LOL
@CassanderMakedon LOL dont try to play smart because you just CANNOT. you dont even know your history...well you dont have seperate history because you are pure bulgarian. until the first century you are supposed to have a history they one you steal from Greece. After the sixth century you are supposed to have a history the one you steal from bulgary. between the first and the sixth century where were you exactly? lol no one knows! because YOU CAME NEAR MACEDONIA DURING THE SIXTH CENTURY!
Lets invade FYROM and make them our bitches
ratzP 1 month ago
you are late we allredy invade Tesalonika,you are our bitchess all the time, i go there on vication and fuck some Grekogipsi pusy ;)
CassanderMakedon 1 month ago
u come to Macedonia if u want a GREEK-boot up ur gypsy ASS
ratzP 1 month ago
Ya i fuck greek pusy all the time thay are real bitches :p thay like spank :p
CassanderMakedon 1 month ago
FYROM = cheap whore capital of the Balkans =
dirty-Turkish tourists play-ground... allah akbar
ratzP 1 month ago
Why you look like turks then? :) Turkish sperm Greko/macedonian identity hilarious ! :D
CassanderMakedon 1 month ago
Turkeys sweet-hearts = FYROMonkeys...mashallah allah akbar
ratzP 1 month ago
and the good Lord made man and called him Adam,,then He
made bananas and once the bananas were ripened He made
Monkey and named him FYROM,,amen ahahahaFYROMonkey
ratzP 1 month ago
@CassanderMakedon EUGENE BORZA is good only to feed goats and to suck my MAKEDONIAN dick . You are FYROMIANS TIMELESS and gyftoskopianoi forever.
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You are Macedonian?:)Good for you, fuck those Greeks!
Macedonia forever!
CassanderMakedon 1 month ago
think primitive = think undeveloped-brain = think NO brain = think FYROM
ratzP 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
European rat = Greece
Macedonia forever!
CassanderMakedon 1 month ago
yes,,Macedonia 4ever,,Greece 4ever,,FYROM 4ever,,,,,,,,,Bulgarian
ratzP 1 month ago
Yaaa Macedonia forever!
Fuck Greece!
European rat = Greece!
CassanderMakedon 1 month ago
FYROM,,land of antiquity=Turkish porcelain shit-holes&old-tractors
ratzP 1 month ago
yaaa firom is shit and where is that? :)
Fuck Greece bankrupt state!
Macedonia forever! :)
CassanderMakedon 1 month ago
i only know where i am,,i am on Greek soil called Macedonia
ratzP 1 month ago
pfff preparate to go from that teretory, your grand grandpapa is from Asia!;)
CassanderMakedon 1 month ago
whos this? Mustafa Mustafa dont leave us,,,we still love u boss =FYROM
ratzP 1 month ago
Fuck Greece!
Macedonia forever! ;)
CassanderMakedon 1 month ago
Pitiable blockheads ...
GeoBBB123 1 month ago
Study PLOUTARCH and fuck any "professor" Borza-my ass.
theosgg 1 month ago
@Auckletonline No dubt macedonians of FYROM dont want to accept they are a mixure of slavic nation. They are more bulgarian than any other slavic nation but take it easy when you talk about albanians. Dont be so hater. If albanians are mixed with turks etc greek olso are mixed with other nation especialy albanians if you want to be realistic. The only nation who have priority to talk about the old history are greeks, albanians, romanians, vlachs,
ethnikhart 2 months ago
The Macedonian question is Achilles' heel for the Greek myth =
Македонското прашање е ахилова петица за грчкиот мит =
Ο Μακεδονικός ερώτημα είναι αχίλλειος πτέρνα για τον ελληνικό μύθο =
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Justin,Isocrates,Ptolemy,Demosthenes,
Arrian,Curtius Rufus and Stabo
Macedonia1ful 2 months ago
i dont need to convince enyone.It's one thing to born like Macedonian and another to make one.;)
Those Real Magdanoses from Asia Minor can only dream that thay are Macedonians.We and you know who is who!;)
CassanderMakedon 2 months ago
@CassanderMakedon Really ... and what about the indigenous Greek-speaking MAKEDONES you Bulgarian monkey ...? The ones you always seem to ignore. The ones that reside in the same land of the Makedones of old ... the ones who speak the language of the ancient Makedones and the ones that knew they were Makedones when your grandparenst were calling themselves Bulgarians ...
GeoBBB123 1 month ago
Again
/watch?v=osVaOsG337Q
we don't think so!;)
CassanderMakedon 3 months ago
We don't think so!;)
5 century B.C
/watch?v=UZSlwJBlfOQ&feature=related
CassanderMakedon 3 months ago
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Καὶ προηγουμένως ἤδη πολλάκις ἐπέστησα τὴν προσοχήν μου καὶ ἠπόρησα, ἴσως δὲ καὶ δὲν θὰ παύσω νὰ ἀπορῶ, διατί ἆρά γε, ἐνῷ ἡ Ἑλλὰς εὑρίσκεται ὑπὸ τὸ αὐτὸ κλῖμα καὶ ἐνῷ ὅλοι οἱ Ἕλληνες λαμβάνουν τὴν ἰδίαν ἀγωγήν, συμβαίνει νὰ μὴ ἔχωμεν ὅλοι τὸν αὐτὸν χαρακτῆρα. ..THIS IS MODERN GREEK ..IDIOT....THE SAME LANGUAGE WITH IT'S DEVELOPMENT OVER THE YEARS, ,..SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME!....CLOSE YOUR DIRTY MOUTH NOW!
nixter888 3 months ago
Ἤδη μὲν καὶ πρότερον πολλάκις ἐπιστήσας τὴν διάνοιαν ἐθαύμασα, ἴσως δὲ οὐδὲ παύσομαι θαυμάζων, τί γὰρ δήποτε, τῆς Ἑλλάδος ὑπὸ τὸν αὐτὸν ἀέρα κειμένης καὶ πάντων τῶν Ἑλλήνων ὁμοίως παιδευομένων, συμβέβηκεν ἡμῖν οὐ τὴν αὐτὴν τάξιν τῶν τρόπων ἔχειν..THIS IS CLASSICAL GREEK ..IDIOT....
nixter888 3 months ago
Μῆνιν ἄειδε, θεά, Πηληϊάδεω Ἀχιλῆος
οὐλομένην, ἣ μυρί’ Ἀχαιοῖς ἄλγε’ ἔθηκε,
πολλὰς δ’ ἰφθίμους ψυχὰς Ἄϊδι προΐαψεν
ἡρώων, αὐτοὺς δὲ ἑλώρια τεῦχε κύνεσσιν
οἰωνοῖσί τε πᾶσι· Διὸς δ’ ἐτελείετο βουλή·
ἐξ οὗ δὴ τὰ πρῶτα διαστήτην ἐρίσαντε
Ἀτρεΐδης τε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν καὶ δῖος Ἀχιλλεύς...THIS IS HOMERIC GREEK ..IDIOT........READ IT IF YOU CAN!...
nixter888 3 months ago
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος. οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν. πάντα δι᾽ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο, καὶ χωρὶς αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο οὐδὲ ἕν. ὃ γέγονεν. ἐν αὐτῷ ζωὴ ἦν, καὶ ἡ ζωὴ ἦν τὸ φῶς τῶν ἀνθρώπων. καὶ τὸ φῶς ἐν τῇ σκοτίᾳ φαίνει, καὶ ἡ σκοτία αὐτὸ οὐ κατέλαβεν....THIS IS KOINE GREEK ...IDIOT...........ARE YOU ABLE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND OUR GREEK LANGUAGE ..BASTARD?....
nixter888 3 months ago
Βασίλισσα οὐδείς τῶν Ἀρχαίων εἶπεν, ἀλλὰ βασίλεια ἢ βασιλίς.
Διωρία ἑσχάτως ἀδόκιμον, ἀντ' αυτοῦ δὲ προθεσμίαν ἐρεῖς
Πάντοτε μὴ λέγε, ἀλλὰ ἑκάστοτε καὶ διὰ παντός......THIS IS KOINE GREEK IDIOT!...THE SAME AS THE ANCIENT ONE AND THE MODERN ONE!...CLOSE YOUR FUCKING MOUTH NOW!
nixter888 3 months ago
LAUGHS GOOD HIM WHO LAUGHS LAST,...IDIOT FYROMIAN!
nixter888 3 months ago
off course they will write Alexander of Macedon...IDIOT...like they will write Leonidas of Sparta!...YOU WILL NEVER PREVAIL WITH YOUR DISTORTION,...BASTARD!!!...OUST!!!! Whom are trying to kid..idiot,...the Greeks?...Do you think we don't know our own language and history?....GO COUCH A CHICKEN !...SHHHHHHHHHOOOOOUUUU!!!
nixter888 3 months ago
You bastard!..The Homeric Greek,the classical,Greek the koine language, is one and the same ,and it's our language and we speak it today in Greece!..Stop your falsification and distortions of history!
nixter888 3 months ago
Borza=slav like fyromians. Simple
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GIVE THIS OLD BSTRD A GLASS OF VODKA HE NEEDS IT TO BREATHE...FYROMIANS VARDARSKIS IF U ARE NOT SLAVS WHAT IS THAT FKN LANGUAGE I HEAR YAK AND TAK MAKEDONIANS MEANING TALL PEOPLE ANCIENT GREEK LIKE ALEXANDER LIKE PHILIP LIKE ARISTOTELES HEARD THESE NAMES NO AT LEAST OTHER SLAVS HAVE SOME DIGNITY TO KNOW THEIR FATHERS ORIGINE AND THE BOOK THE OLD BASTARD SHOWING HAS PLAYBOY TRADEMARK IN SPONSORS HAHHAHAHAHAHAH
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GIVE THIS OLD MAN A BOTTLE OF VODKA HE NEEDS IT TO BREATHE...FYROMIANS FIND YOUR PLACE IN HISTORY YOU ARE NOT SLAVS HAAHA U ARE MECEDONIANS MEANING TALL PEOPLE IN ANCIENT GREEK....SO WHAT IS TAHT SHITTY LANGUAGE I HEAR IN THIS FKN VIDEO
kiberly2010 5 months ago
alexander the great was a macedonian. he is not a gayreek bastard. if you dont accept this, than... mozete samo da jadete gomna i da vi ja ebam majkata grcka...
gomak5000 6 months ago
Borza = Propagandist
You cannot make the cultural links between Slavs, Bulgars, Magyars and Macedonians.
You can want to be Macedonians, but that will only make you wannabes.
You can find the Macedonians, living in Greece. They are proud to be Greeks, just like Alexander was proud to be Greek.
Unfortunately, your history was burned by the 2nd Ukrainean Front of the Soviet Army, lead by NKVD officers. Sorry, but it's the truth... your history was deleted. You are not Macedonians.
shockolanu 6 months ago
hahahaaaaa, borza himself says that fyroms population is slavic and can't establish a link with the ancient GREEK MACEDONIANS hahahaaaaaaaa:))))),
ignorant stupid skopjes!! U can't change history, the macedonians themselves said they were greek, The bible the word of god passed down to the prophets said they were Greek, is god confused as well now?? :)))), archeology and history says they are greeks!! Go back to bulgaria or stay & rename your country vardar bonavina fuck heads,stupid skopjes!
mrpericles7771 6 months ago
Nicholas Hammond, in an interview with the magazine “Macedonian Echo” in February, 1993:
"(Q): Who were the Macedonians ?
(A): The name of the ancient Macedonians is derived from Macedon, who
was the grandchild of Deukalion, the father of all Greeks. This we may
infer from Hesiod’s genealogy. It may be proven that Macedonians spoke
Greek since Macedon, the ancestor of Macedonians, was a brother of
Magnes, the ancestor of Thessalians, who spoke Greek."
eismakedon 7 months ago
No wonder the people in Skopje become so fanatical, when every day they are being bombarded by crap like this. This idiot never read Borza . He is only falsifying EVERYTHING that Borza has written, AND he NEVER ONCE gave a reference. Would Borza for example mention Attic Greek as "Pelasgic-Attic"!!! All we hear is some guy speaking Bulgarian who claims that Borza said this and that and he is talking crap. Hammond never said that Philip was a western Bulgarian speaking Yugoslav!
eismakedon 7 months ago
Borza in "Macedonian Rendux":
On the other hand, the Macedonians are a newly emergent people in search of a past to help legitimize their precarious present as they attempt to establish their singular identity in a Slavic world dominated historically by Serbs and Bulgarians
eismakedon 7 months ago
Borza in "Macedonian Rendux":
The Macedonian kingdom was absorbed into the Roman Empire, never to recover its independence. During medieval and modem times, Macedonia was known as a Balkan region inhabited by ethnic Greeks, Albanians, Vlachs, Serbs, Bulgarians, Jews, and Turks.
Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom.
eismakedon 7 months ago
cassendermacedonsk!!!
1:0 for you
grekski, strundski wuti radi slaw katinski eti swadi like aleksandr de macedonsk said!!!
greeks never exist, this people are put there to problemice skopians!!! the thruth macedonsk people. eugene (i dont believe he has eu-gene) borza is everywhere known fuck the rest!!!
johannsobieski 7 months ago
Who is that fat fart in the video, pontificating
about Alexander?
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
[Paul Cartledge, 'The Greeks, Crucible of Civilisation'
pp. 203-204]
"Macedon had become the undisputed single
great power of the Greek world.."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
[Paul Cartledge, 'The Greeks Crucible of Civilisation'
p.228]
"Alexander was not THE FIRST GREEK to recieve
divine honours in his lifetime, but the precedents
were very few, and of course, inevitably inexact."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
"...Yet, the vast majority of Greeks saw things differently indeed. Right down to the final decisive battle against the Persian Great King, Alexander had more Greeks fighting against him than for him.
Between 336 and 332, a significant number of Greek cities and federations of the mainland were at one time or another up in arms against him.
Paul Cartledge, Alexander the Great
abrasev88 7 months ago
@abrasev
[David Hogarth 'Philip and Alexander of Macedon' p.80]
[Macedonia] was inhabited by sturdy gentry,
and peasantry and by agile highlanders,
all composed of the SAME RACIAL ELEMENTS
AS THE GREEKS."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
Who's that overbloated fat fart in the video pontificating
about Alexander the Great ?
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
So, in Conclusion what does
Eugene Borza tell us:
1) The Ancient Macedonians were of GREEK STOCK.
2) The Ancient Macedonians spoke PROTO-GREEK.
Conclusion:
The Ancient Macedonians were GREEKS.
QED
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
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[Professor Donald Kagan - Yale University (USA)]
"We know the ancient Macedonians
were fundamentally Greeks. That
is to say thay were Greek speakers
and ethnically they were Greeks."
Oh noes!!
Time to take a reality pill
and go to sleep, 'Cassander'
By the way, nice Greek name you have.
Hahahahahah!!
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
Of course it wasn't the goal of Alexander
to spread Hellenism throughout Asia.
but Alexander and the macedonians being Greek,
unintentionally spread Greek culture throughout the
known world, through conquest.
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
Eugene Borza
On the matter of the Hellenic origins
of the macedonians, Nicholas Hammond's
general conclusion that the origins
of the [ancient] macedonians lies
in the pool of PROTO-GREEK SPEAKERS
who migrated out of the Pindus mountains
during the Iron age IS ACCEPTABLE."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
Eugene Borza,(1990) 'Makedonika'
"The highlanders or Makedones
of the mountainous regions of
Western Macedonia [ in Greece ]
are derived from North-Western GREEK STOCK."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
You can believe whatever you want even that you Bulgaroalbanian bastards you are Macedonians, and i' m an Alien from Mars.
promytheus1453 8 months ago
So greeks how are you? hahahahahaha
take the pills and chill out :-)
abrasev88 11 months ago
@abrasev88
Well, considering the exhibition of Ancient macedonian
artefacts at the Ashmolean museum (UK) entitled:
"THE LEGEND OF MACEDON, AN HELLENIC KINGDOM
IN THE AGE OF DEMOCRACY"
promoting the Greekness of Ancient macedonia
is such a great success, I'd say the Greeks
are already chilling out fine, thanks.
Hahahahahahh!!!!!
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@HaggisMacfee Greekness of Macedonia? How could thous two diffrent countries now, and then be same?
Macedonia is Macedonia Greece is Greece.
Simple as that.
abrasev88 7 months ago
@abrasev88
No, I'm talking about Greece's province of Macedonia
which is the ancient Macedonia of Alexander the Great.
and the homeland of the ancient macedonians who
were a Greek tribe. That's the problem you see, your republic RoM was
NEVER macedonia, it was ancient Paeonia on which
your Slavic ancestors settled on in the 7th centuryAD.
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@HaggisMacfee Hey gypsy go seek your roots elsewhere not in those lands. Go read about the Rosete Stone and learn Macedonian grammar you'll need to understand what was writen on it, some of the "greek" university already started viewing it, and as it seems our language is not slavic but Macedonian.
And Macedonia was never province, Macedonia was a Kingdom! in the ancient times and it fought against the city-states.
The name Greece is brought in the 17th-18th century its not historic.
abrasev88 7 months ago
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev
Just have a look at the Pella curse Tablet.
Besides which, there are 17,000 inscriptions
found on ancient Macedonian cemeteries
in Greece all written in Aeolic / Doric Greek.
The subjects of Philip and Alexander would
stream in their thousands to the many theatres of
the realm to enjoy the works of Aeschylus, Spophocles
and Euripedes all in the Greek language.
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@HaggisMacfee How so Macedonia to be Greek? When "greeks" were organized in city-states and Macedonia was a Kingdom? + The therm "hellene" in ancient world was used for cultural generalization (like the therm "western" now) not as ethnic distinction.(Michael A. Dimitri, "The Radiance of Ancient Macedonia," Fort Wayne, 1992, pg. 17) Read it. It will blow your poisoned mind.
The Hellens as a etnic society was brought by several european writers in 18th century. Beat that.
abrasev88 7 months ago
@abrasev
Macedonia was a kingdom, Epirus was a kingdom,
and Sparta was a kingdom. So what.
[N G L Hammond (1986) "A History of Greece" to 332 BC]
"Greece and Macedon were akin in BLOOD AND CULTURE."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@HaggisMacfee WoW Sparta Kingdom? Really?
Paul Cartledge also sais Macedonians are not greeks and Macedonia is not a greek state in his book "Alexander the Great"
Read this book too: Sarah B. Pomeroy, at. al., "Ancient Greece, Political, Social, and Cultural History," Second Edition, New York and Oxford, Oxford University Press, 2008
and here i quit debating with you. It is useless. I am Macedonian and your not, you have a right to be jealous,and i will encourage you to be what you are,not MKD
abrasev88 7 months ago
@abrasev I doubt very much Paul Cartledge said that.
[Bury and Meiggs (1985) "A History of Greece"]
"The ancient Macedonian people and their
Kings were of GREEK STOCK, as their traditions
and the scanty remains of their language combine
to testify."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@HaggisMacfee Between them, Alexander and Antipater were responsible, as the Greeks saw it, for the final anahilation of Greek political liberty both in old Greece and in Asia. ...
How is this seeming paradox to be explained? I shall argue that there is, in fact, no paradox at all, and that Alexander's treatment of the Greeks -- all Greeks, both colectivelly and individually -- was entirely consistant! ..."
Paul Cartledge, Alexander the Great
Paradox? Not at all
abrasev88 7 months ago
@abrasev88
[John V A Fine 'The Ancient Greeks a Critical History'
Harvard University Press (1983 p.605-608]
"Modern Scholars, after many generations of
argument, now almost UNANIMOUSLY recognise
them [ancient Macedonians] as GREEKS,
a branch of the Dorians and 'north-west Greeks,
who after long residence in the Pindus region
migrated Eastwards."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev
Cartledge does not say that the ancient Macedonians
were NOT of Greek stock.
As Borza states, the ancient Macedonians originated
from the SAME GENE POOL that produced other Greek tribes.
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev88
[Ernst Badian]
"We have now become accustomed to regarding
the Macedonians as NORTHERN GREEKS."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev
[David Hogarth 'Philip and Alexander of Macedon'
"The King of Macedon was chief in the
first instance of a race of plain dwellers
who held themselves to be like him
OF HELLENIC STOCK."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev
[M C Howatson (1989) ' The Oxford Companion
of Classical Literature' Oxford University Press, p.339]
"Thus the Kings [of Macedonia] were of
largely DORIAN stock, they presumably spoke
a form of DORIAN GREEK and their cultural
traditons had GREEK FEATURES."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
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@abrasev
[ Dr Stephen Batchelor, Lecturer in Classics and ancient History,
'The Ancient Greeks for Dummies']
"Macedonia was - and still is - a territory
of Northern Greece, the ancient Macedonians
were of GREEK ORIGIN and spoke
a broader rougher DIALECT OF GREEK"
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
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@abrasev
[ professor Donald Kagan Yale University (USA)]
"We know the ancient Macedonians were fundamentally GREEKS,
that is to say they were GREEK SPEAKERS,
and ETHNICALLY THEY WERE GREEKS."
(Yale University Lectures)
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev
[Alan Fildes "Alexander the Great son of a god" p.12]
"Although the ancient Macedonians
spoke a GREEK DIALECT, worsshipped GREEK GODS,
and traced their nation's origins from Olympian gods,
their customs, and Northern Doric Greek accent
were markedly different from those of the
people OF THE REST OF GREECE, who saw Macedonia
as a largely insignificant backwater monarchy."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev
[David Sacks (1995) "A Dictionary of the ancient Greek world"
Oxford University Press]
"Historians refer to this enlarged
Greek society as the Hellenistic world. At the sart of his reign , the 20 year old Alexander
was the crowned King of only Macedon,
A CRUDE GREEK KINGDOM of mainland Greece."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev88
You are NOT a Macedonian. You are a Slav, a Former
Bulgarian that re-named himself 'macedonian'
and you speak a dialect of Bulgarian.
Your ancestors arrived in the Balkans in the
7th century AD, more than a millenium after
the Ancient Macedonian Kingdom. In fact you
have NO CONNECTION AT ALL with the
ancient Macedonians who were an ethnic
GREEK / GREEK SPEAKING tribe.
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev
[Professor George Cawkwell, Emeritus Fellow,
University College Oxford]
"The ancient Macedonians were GREEKS,
their language was GREEK to judge by their personal names,
and the names of the months of their calendar."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@HaggisMacfee Greeks called them self as romei in the 18th century said Pulevski in his book in the 19th ct.
Was the Persian Kingdom "greek" also?
And anout the Rosete Stone the second part is translated by Tome Bosevski and Aristotel Tentov and in the grammar found there it has the caracteristics of the Bitola speaking area. And is translated to the last sign.
Eugene Borza the leading hestoric distinct the greeks from Macedonians as difrent ethnic society.
abrasev88 7 months ago
@abrasev88
[Eugene Borza (1995) Makedonika]
"The highlanders or Makedones of the mountainous
regions of Western Macedonia are derived
from North-Western GREEK STOCK. They were akin both to those who at
an earlier time may have migrated south
to become the Historic Dorians."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
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@abrasev
[N G L Hammond "The Miracle that was Macedonia". p.206]
"As members of the GREEK RACE and
SPEAKERS OF THE GREEK LANGUAGE,
the ancient Macedonians shared the ability
to initiate ideas and create political forms."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev88
[H. Bengston (1988) "A History of Greece" p.186]
"The majority of Modern Historians have
CORRECTLY argued for the Hellenic origins of
the ancient Mcedonians and that they should be
Included in the group up of North - west Greek tribes."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
@abrasev
[Robin Lane fox 'Alexander the Great' p.104]
"To the Persians, the Macedonians were known as
'YONA TAKABARA' meaning 'GREEKS WHO WEAR SHIELDS ON THEIR HEADS' alluding to their
broad rimmed hats."
HaggisMacfee 7 months ago
THAT MAN SHOULD HAVE A BULLET IN HIS BRAIN
onkeljohnny 11 months ago
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Quote from Eugene N. Borza:
"Both Bulgarians and Macedonians (Fyromians), cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom."
trisnna9801 1 year ago
Arrian ,
Anabasis of Alexander ,loeb classical library , P.A.Brunt p. xli
....30.
"There tha Macedonian cavalry , thousands strong , are commonly described as Companions ....
.....the original Companions will have been the ROYAL KOMITAS , his entourage consisting chiefly of the principal nobles .....
I didn't know that Aleksandar haved "bulgarian cavalry!hahahaha
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
Borza is good only when they isolate a few words from a whole book and when delusional assholes like this mf here create their own fantastic stories.
Homemade history and stories is what they think history is.
kostas67reth 1 year ago
I will come again to bit your bulgarian ass..bye bye bulgar! oh and keep searching on the internet about your next brillian post! LMAO
deedeegr100 1 year ago
KOMITA?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
Another greek hero i need who know what mean the name of VODEN,town in Aegan Macedonia?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMajmundon, it's EDESSA majmun
kostas67reth 1 year ago
but is VODEN in Ancient,why do you changed you not understand what mean VODEN?hehehe
Majmunos!;)
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon h t t p : / / w w w . w i n g e d s a n d a l s . c o m /
pathetic and idiot loser perseas is a greek name and you can see in this link which the australian goverment created for its schools, what the world teaches its kids. about aristotle and alexander the greeks. about perseas being a greek name. so how does it feel to see that no one believes you? lolovski. navigate yourself through this link and get some education. even at this age. loser
deedeegr100 1 year ago
@deedeegr100
perseas????
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon realy lets see on the times of the kings of makedonians is edessa on the times of bisandtium is edessa again on the times of the othoman ocupation is bodena end now again is edessa thats the names of the city my self end my ancestors have been born
DALAMYIAN 11 months ago
@CassanderMakedon
The Ancient Macedonian name "Edessa" was commemorated by Seleucus I Nicator in refounding an ancient city in northern Mesopotamia
learn before you post
2005defender 11 months ago
I wait to here what is KOMITA?I see how much you know the Macedonian history and language...I am waiting?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
I whant to see greek hero who know what is KOMITA?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
Makedoniko komitato kicked your slavobulgarian butts
My forefathers were members of that and they gave you what you deserved
kostas67reth 1 year ago
puffff haha
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
An abundance of water is described with the word "vodi" in contemporary Macedonian language. The corresponding ancient Macedonian word for this is the word "vedy". The Greek archaeologist Aliki Stuyanaki in the periodical "Edesaika Hronika"(Edessa, may-august, 1972) advised that the Macedonian city of Voden, to which the Greeks gave the name "Edessa",was originally a Brygian city and its old name was Vedy which means abundance of water24)
why do you change the original ancient name of the town?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon thats true the makedonians have change the name of the city to edessa
DALAMYIAN 11 months ago
And who was Monkeydoniko komitato?Athenian Metaxas?hahaha
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
I remember the slavobulgars coming out of the cinemas after watching Oliver Stone's film holding their Tibetan flags and CRYING after listening to Alexander saying the phrase "for the glory of Greece".
SUFFER MAJMUNS
kostas67reth 1 year ago
KOMITA?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon
The macedonians themselves may have originated from the same population pool that produced other Greek peoples.
<E.N.Borza, “On the Shadows of Olympus” (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1990), page 84
BORZA?? looooooooool
deedeegr100 1 year ago
lol lol lol lol lol lol how lame..burn the video! borza spoke!
deedeegr100 1 year ago
It is difficult to know whether an independent Macedonian state would have come into existence had Tito not recognized and supported the development of Macedonian ethnicity as part of his ethnically organized Yugoslavia.
deedeegr100 1 year ago
He did this as a counter to Bulgaria, which for centuries had a historical claim on the area as far west as Lake Ohrid and the present border of Albania.
“Macedonia Redux”, Eugene N. Borza, The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity, Frances B. Titchener and Richard F. Moorton, Jr., editors
deedeegr100 1 year ago
an atomic bomb is what you need you idiots
no psychiatrists can help you anymore
kostas67reth 1 year ago
lolovski
kostas67reth 1 year ago
your scientific arguemtns really got me. i am impressed by your INTERNET education hahahaha try to find a book that says these things lolovski
deedeegr100 1 year ago
your scientific arguemtns are brilliant.wow i didnt see that coming. you are a monster of education!
deedeegr100 1 year ago
you sneaky brainwashed bulgar admit that you have no history between the first and the sixth century and let's get it over with. arent you shocked that you just realised that that is a huge hole which you hadnt noticed??? LOOOOOOOOOOL
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Ancient Macedonian : ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑ
Today Macedonian : КЛЕОПАТРА
;)
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon there isnt such word in your language..maybe kleopatrovski LOOL
deedeegr100 1 year ago
we have female name Makedonka hehe ,do you have?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon do you really think that we dont have female names? and are you really 30? because i cant beleive it lol
deedeegr100 1 year ago
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April 9th, 1861 Prima Justiniana or Ohrid There are no ‘Macedonians’. There are Bulgars! “Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no ‘Macedonians’. There are Bulgars.
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Today Macedonian : КЛЕОПАТРА
Ancient Macedonian :ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑ
What is the diference?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
I asked you first but like a good monkeydonian pussy that you are you dont have the balls to say i dont know because i am uneducated lol well you are not uneducated because there is no answer to this question...you were not near macedonian then lolovski
deedeegr100 1 year ago
you think you know everything when you dont even know your CUNTry;s history! hahahaha haw pathetic are you????
deedeegr100 1 year ago
And Filip V make war with who?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon what is your history between the first and the sixth century?
deedeegr100 1 year ago
what is your history between the first and the sixth century?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
this makes your language a bulgarian dialect not macedonian LOLOVSKI
deedeegr100 1 year ago
added: ЃЅЈЉЊЌЏ
eliminated: ЙЩЪЮЯ
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Yes bulgars speak Macedonian language!;)
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon your language was created by Tito ;-)
deedeegr100 1 year ago
no kiding ?And the Macedonians in USA how thay speak the same language with me even thay don't know him ?:))))
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
BULGARIAN ALPHABET:
А Б В Г Д Е Ж З И Й К Л М Н О П Р С Т У Ф Х Ц Ч Ш Щ Ъ Ю Я
FYROMIAN ALPHABET:
А Б В Г Д Ѓ Е Ж З Ѕ И Ј К Л Љ М Н Њ О П Р С Т Ќ У Ф Х Ц Ч Џ Ш
deedeegr100 1 year ago
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BULGARIAN ALPHABET:
А Б В Г Д Е Ж З И Й К Л М Н О П Р С Т У Ф Х Ц Ч Ш Щ Ъ Ю Я
FYROMIAN ALPHABET:
А Б В Г Д Ѓ Е Ж З Ѕ И Ј К Л Љ М Н Њ О П Р С Т Ќ У Ф Х Ц Ч Џ Ш
deedeegr100 1 year ago
aleksandros, fillipos, aeroporos, alketas, arxhelaos, amunta, karanos, koinos, lusimachos, pausanias, perdikas, ptolemeos, kleopatra etc etc etc all macedonian not slav! macedonian!
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Who was last Macedonian king and how he die?What is here that i am playing smart or not smart?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
wow I am talking to a 30 y.o who lives in Germany and still he hasnt found out that he is not macedonian but bulgarian. lol i thought you were a 15 year old...what is wrong with you exactly??? the truth speaks for itself and you just cannot hear it..pathetic..just pathetic.
deedeegr100 1 year ago
i work for Germans i know well their knolege for Aleksandar Macedonian!;)
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
LOL check the investors you innocent boy and you will see that behind all these there are greeks ;-)))
deedeegr100 1 year ago
I know boy i don't need check out.
I forget the Airport ALEKSANDAR the GREAT who is going bigger by TAFF ;) all "greek" capital,and not to talk about Jonson control and all others ;)
For examle Seavus and all others :))
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
Really? He drives them here everyday?
deedeegr100 1 year ago
/watch?v=54C8RdFcnds this is what the books say..like it or not this is that the univesities teach worldwide..and it will never change ;-))))
deedeegr100 1 year ago
All of Borza's books say that alexander was greek. How brainwashing are your journalists? as much as your politicians? I am wondering if some of them actually believe the things they say! Borza says macedonia = greece and you say he says the opposite. Seriously people..WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU????
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Macedonia forever!
Fuck Greece bankrupt state!
;)
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon 1) your salary is 100 euros LOL 2) we are still macedonians no matter what ;-)
deedeegr100 1 year ago
my salary is 700e ;) i work for Germans here!;)
But yess some of the Macedonians have small salary!;)
You are true Monkeydonians?hahaha Thats why in my passaport say nationality:Macedonian ?
hehehe
What say in your?Sorry greek .....i mean greeek!;)
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon LOL nice argument! typical for someone with no historical proof! hahaha yes before you were vardaskis ( vardaska ), prilepis ( kingdom of prilep) and now BOOOOM you are macedonians! how lame..Your name will be changed. You cant go on whit a stolen one! And of course you are in Germany..you were smart enough to leave the FYRO"M" shithole! But you are not smart enough to go to a library lol
deedeegr100 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon oh and in Greece, 700 euros is the basic salary for the workers..LOL
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Thats why the greeks come in Macedonia to see dentis or go in shoops.You have bigger salary but you have bigger prices on everiting than us.;)Soo the same.:)
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon LOL all your shops, banks etc are greek..so we come to the future united Macedonia LOL. dont you see it???? even the food stores are greek ! we started the expansion! hahhaha
deedeegr100 1 year ago
if you mean all markets only for VERO that is only in your brain.We have Tediko,Tinex,Ramstore markets all over Macedonia.
If you mean all banks for STOPANSKA BANKA that is only in your brain.We have UNI,TUTUNSKA,SPARKASE,OHRIDSKA BANKA - SOCIETE GENERALE,ZIRAT BANKS and all others.;)
Soo don't let them to brainwash you easy that everiting here is greek capital becaus is not!;)
Did you know that the boss of VERO markets his kids go to school in Macedonia!;)
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon Borza not only is not on your side but he is one of the biggest supporters of the Greekness of Macedonia. And the shithole of the balkans is making a tv show to say the opposite! what kind of cuntry are you??!!! in your schools and university you teach false history..the media are brainwashing you! I pity you! really! since you live in germany you have to know that the young germans learn at school about Alexander and his GREEK MACEDONIA lol
deedeegr100 1 year ago
hahaha In Germany Aleksandar is Macedonian, no greeks, no hellenizm !;)
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon yes keep fooling yourself. the term macedonian means greek. as an athenean is greek. as a spartan is greekyour name was vardaska and kingdom of prilep and now that you stole are name you are macedonian?? lol . in school books the germans write that alexander spread the greek civilization, not the slav one ;-) so keep wanting greek history. it's flattering actually.
deedeegr100 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon do you know the official position of the countries that recognised you as macedonia? " we recognise macedonia and it's 1000 years of history" LOL do you know when alexander was born? LOL
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Who was the last Macedonian KING and how he die?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon LOL dont try to play smart because you just CANNOT. you dont even know your history...well you dont have seperate history because you are pure bulgarian. until the first century you are supposed to have a history they one you steal from Greece. After the sixth century you are supposed to have a history the one you steal from bulgary. between the first and the sixth century where were you exactly? lol no one knows! because YOU CAME NEAR MACEDONIA DURING THE SIXTH CENTURY!
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Who was last Macedonian king and how he die?What is here that i am playing smart or not smart?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon Perseus 179-167 BC the last one ;-))) GREEK NAME not slav...sorry
deedeegr100 1 year ago
the real name is not Perseus but Persey!;) yes and how he die?
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
@CassanderMakedon perseY? LOOOOOOOL answer my question first and then I will tell you. I already answered one question of yours.
deedeegr100 1 year ago