Katyusha, interesting that instead of saying you would die to free your country you'd kill children to do so. Again, Gandhi helped free his country without killing children. France was awful for Algeria, and deserved defeat. I don't know that pied-noir babies deserved Phillipeville. My guess is Algeria would have eventually gained independence. And the fln were never democrats. They saw French democracy as its weakness. The seeds of violent dictatorship were sown and you reap what you sow
Ha, adctually, horrible example, as Camus was a pied noir himself who opposed the revolution. Nevertheless, supporting freedom i algeria does not require one to support terrorism or especially the FLN, which became a horrible 1-party state itself (with some pretty horrible opponents of its own). This isn't to support the french. But Gandhi nor MLK, Jr. went this route. Different situations may call for different tactics, but this bitch-slapping suggests you're naive if you don't agree.
Katyusha. Privet and Kak dela? I do not really doubt or care much that Ben M'Hidi really said this or that the movie (a wonderful film I have seen many times) also portrays the french (?) point of view. What about the human point of view? This is a false dichotomy, well-armed murdering imperialist or "innocent" baby (did pied noir toddlers vote?) killer. The FLN was a political party which imposed a 1-party, murderous state. Not all who supported a free Algeria were terrorists. Camus?
@wobatus Speaking as an Algerian opposed to the present government. If I had the opportunity to go back in time knowing what I know today, I would still have supported the FLN. The sovereignty of a nation has no price. The FLN did commit atrocities against innocents, that is undeniable, but if you asked me to kill children to free my country, I would do it. The FLN did not lead the revolution in order to impose dictatorship, that was Boumediene who hijacked the party and imposed his rule.
@wobatus Hagiography? The scene is based on an actual accident, and if you see the movie the French point of view is definitely not downplayed (actually the French commander has all the best lines!)
@wobatus no this movie is not a lie the french colonizers did aweful things to our country and our people so everything happened in this movie is true and we managed to kick the french out of algeria ... there is no need for FLN to pay for it
Katyusha, interesting that instead of saying you would die to free your country you'd kill children to do so. Again, Gandhi helped free his country without killing children. France was awful for Algeria, and deserved defeat. I don't know that pied-noir babies deserved Phillipeville. My guess is Algeria would have eventually gained independence. And the fln were never democrats. They saw French democracy as its weakness. The seeds of violent dictatorship were sown and you reap what you sow
wobatus 2 months ago
best war movie
NADA23146 5 months ago 3
great speech convincing
NADA23146 5 months ago
Does this remind to the americans the situation between Israel-palestinians? Of course the US media are totally in favor of israel..
costixx 7 months ago
Ha, adctually, horrible example, as Camus was a pied noir himself who opposed the revolution. Nevertheless, supporting freedom i algeria does not require one to support terrorism or especially the FLN, which became a horrible 1-party state itself (with some pretty horrible opponents of its own). This isn't to support the french. But Gandhi nor MLK, Jr. went this route. Different situations may call for different tactics, but this bitch-slapping suggests you're naive if you don't agree.
wobatus 9 months ago
Katyusha. Privet and Kak dela? I do not really doubt or care much that Ben M'Hidi really said this or that the movie (a wonderful film I have seen many times) also portrays the french (?) point of view. What about the human point of view? This is a false dichotomy, well-armed murdering imperialist or "innocent" baby (did pied noir toddlers vote?) killer. The FLN was a political party which imposed a 1-party, murderous state. Not all who supported a free Algeria were terrorists. Camus?
wobatus 9 months ago
@wobatus Speaking as an Algerian opposed to the present government. If I had the opportunity to go back in time knowing what I know today, I would still have supported the FLN. The sovereignty of a nation has no price. The FLN did commit atrocities against innocents, that is undeniable, but if you asked me to kill children to free my country, I would do it. The FLN did not lead the revolution in order to impose dictatorship, that was Boumediene who hijacked the party and imposed his rule.
Katyusha666 2 months ago
Of course the reporter got bitch-slapped; this movie was paid for by the FLN. Hagiography.
wobatus 10 months ago
@wobatus Hagiography? The scene is based on an actual accident, and if you see the movie the French point of view is definitely not downplayed (actually the French commander has all the best lines!)
signorellil 10 months ago
@wobatus That actually is something that Ben M'Hidi said.
Katyusha666 9 months ago
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jiji309 5 months ago
@wobatus no this movie is not a lie the french colonizers did aweful things to our country and our people so everything happened in this movie is true and we managed to kick the french out of algeria ... there is no need for FLN to pay for it
jiji309 5 months ago
that press reporter got verbally bitchslapped
Mcfearless123 1 year ago 11
A movie and a question still relevant today...
scolic03 1 year ago 14