The most compelling reason to not have underscores as separators is to search for programming functions. Like mysql_real_escape_string(). And does any one else copy error messages and paste them verbatim into Google?
I cannot register a domain with underscore in the URL at godaddy or register.com, so is that something they recently changed? Because of that, I'll use hyphens.
@AngelsRamin Dont worry mate - I run more successful websites that rank than I care to count. (More than 500.) I was merely saying that you dont need to be that worried about the minute detail to have a successful income producing website.
I love how Matt moves his hands when he talks. "underscores", "links", "url", etc all have the same hand gesture.
It's also funny that he has to hide a lot of things. It seems that he has a lot to hide and be careful of saying out loud when he makes these videos, as opposed to his blog where he just writes what he needs to.
Thanks for the info on dashes. My clients will be happy with all the information I'm learning from your videos.
yeah, i've been using a mix,but defiantly the underscore should be a separator, it goes back to the days of writing code, programmers have always used underscores, my programming teacher nearly shot me for using a dash!
I find it much easier to see Underscore, than a dash. And more importantly, I use that as a convention throughout my website, so noone ever gets confused as to what the url is. So they can predict what a url is, or even if they forget, they know it's going to be underscore and not dash.
ok. My comment as a NON seo Guru.. i just went to register a site.. the name . lets say.. mynewdog dotcom
when i enter the full text.. the site is taken, when i enter my-new-dog dotcom
that name is available.. when I enter my_new_dogdotcom.. it resolves the same as the plain text and the domain is taken.. I dont know how this fits into the seo
Is this still true? I use underscores because it's easier to read, and it's closer to spaces. Hyphens look strange to me. A lot of other people use underscores as well, so I'm confused as to why Google wouldn't "count" them as seperators.
I find this odd to state hyphens as a preferred separator. Google had no problems with underscores at the outset, but hyphens were originally used predominantly by "spammy" bot-created sites. Just for logic sake, wouldn't you put more weight on the underscore knowing this info, if it were up to you?
I don't think Google needs to worry about their own sites since they own the search engine. + I'm unsure how much of the internal link structure has changed after the Google buy out.
@ontheflipside200: Matt clarified what he said at WordCamp on his blog on August 10, 2007. Try searching for [Whitehat SEO tips for bloggers] and that should bring it up.
I totally agree. Sometimes its a technical challenge, depending on what platform your site is coded in. When you have a large number of high ranking pages, that all follow different URL patterns but use underscores instead of hyphens, there should be no reason to change your site to use hyphens. I have personally seen cases where doing permanent redirects as a method of passing rankings along from an old page to new page are highly ineffective with regards to preserving SERP rankings.
The most compelling reason to not have underscores as separators is to search for programming functions. Like mysql_real_escape_string(). And does any one else copy error messages and paste them verbatim into Google?
Let's just use % to separate stuff.
earthday47 1 year ago
I cannot register a domain with underscore in the URL at godaddy or register.com, so is that something they recently changed? Because of that, I'll use hyphens.
TarheelJ 1 year ago
Wow - if your worried about hyphens or underscores your business/website is in trouble.!
shagster1970 1 year ago 2
@shagster1970 u r wrong!..update ur self about SEO!
AngelsRamin 1 year ago
@AngelsRamin Dont worry mate - I run more successful websites that rank than I care to count. (More than 500.) I was merely saying that you dont need to be that worried about the minute detail to have a successful income producing website.
shagster1970 1 year ago
I love how Matt moves his hands when he talks. "underscores", "links", "url", etc all have the same hand gesture.
It's also funny that he has to hide a lot of things. It seems that he has a lot to hide and be careful of saying out loud when he makes these videos, as opposed to his blog where he just writes what he needs to.
Thanks for the info on dashes. My clients will be happy with all the information I'm learning from your videos.
superdan0468 1 year ago
yeah, i've been using a mix,but defiantly the underscore should be a separator, it goes back to the days of writing code, programmers have always used underscores, my programming teacher nearly shot me for using a dash!
JapaneseChirashi 1 year ago
I find it much easier to see Underscore, than a dash. And more importantly, I use that as a convention throughout my website, so noone ever gets confused as to what the url is. So they can predict what a url is, or even if they forget, they know it's going to be underscore and not dash.
Dash just looks juvenile to me.
shakaama 1 year ago
ok. My comment as a NON seo Guru.. i just went to register a site.. the name . lets say.. mynewdog dotcom
when i enter the full text.. the site is taken, when i enter my-new-dog dotcom
that name is available.. when I enter my_new_dogdotcom.. it resolves the same as the plain text and the domain is taken.. I dont know how this fits into the seo
Gazinbali 1 year ago
Is this still true? I use underscores because it's easier to read, and it's closer to spaces. Hyphens look strange to me. A lot of other people use underscores as well, so I'm confused as to why Google wouldn't "count" them as seperators.
Flyborg 1 year ago
Very useful info. I've been using hyphens on my site. It's ranking great, but not just cuz of that :P
IcyCombina720 1 year ago
I find this odd to state hyphens as a preferred separator. Google had no problems with underscores at the outset, but hyphens were originally used predominantly by "spammy" bot-created sites. Just for logic sake, wouldn't you put more weight on the underscore knowing this info, if it were up to you?
gooadam 2 years ago
I know a lots of site use underscore in their URL. It make sense to me than Google treat underscore has a separator. Please, pretty please.
brodseba 2 years ago
underscores make things easier to read in a url especially if posted as a link.
mouseover "QuickList" or "Account" at the top on this page (if logged in). Doesn't google own youtube?
somfplease 2 years ago 8
I don't think Google needs to worry about their own sites since they own the search engine. + I'm unsure how much of the internal link structure has changed after the Google buy out.
larssonk22 2 years ago
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what the fuck are underscores? please hit me up give examples!!
Mik5469 2 years ago
There was an article on cnet on Matt Cutts from google at WordCamp 2007' proclaiming that google was using underscores as separators.
just google cnet underscore word separators.
Why the preference for dashes when it seems there is no difference?
ontheflipside200 2 years ago
@ontheflipside200: Matt clarified what he said at WordCamp on his blog on August 10, 2007. Try searching for [Whitehat SEO tips for bloggers] and that should bring it up.
- Wysz, Google Webmaster Central
GoogleWebmasterHelp 2 years ago
Thanks for the clarification.
ontheflipside200 2 years ago
People are already using underscores as separators, Google should honour that, rather then trying to specify what people should. use.
pigsonthewinguk 2 years ago 4
I totally agree. Sometimes its a technical challenge, depending on what platform your site is coded in. When you have a large number of high ranking pages, that all follow different URL patterns but use underscores instead of hyphens, there should be no reason to change your site to use hyphens. I have personally seen cases where doing permanent redirects as a method of passing rankings along from an old page to new page are highly ineffective with regards to preserving SERP rankings.
dushyant78 2 years ago 4
That will help me point someone on the right track
Thanks!
David
abfabmedia 2 years ago
Thanks Matt!
pjeide 2 years ago
first view!
caseychesh 2 years ago