Open Solaris on System Z demo Part V

[utubeworms]

Actually, the cloud computing paradigm is somewhat mimicking the mainframe architecture. So, what's old is new again. Happens all the time in computing.

[Nwo1001]

how popular is solaris and linux on zseries?? does it have any scope??

[kjdavey]

Linux under Z/Series is quite popular right now. IBM recently consolidated 196 internal data centers down 9 by consolidating on Linux running under Z/os on the mainframe.

[artem1002]

windows vista ftw, btw if this has nothing to do with what i think it has to do, i dont care cuz i didnt watch the whole video, about first 10sec and then fell asleep :p

[hiddendarkshadows]

Mr Cameraman show the computer screen more than the man's face.

[chrlrs]

Mainframes KICK Ass for real..

Only touble is kidz usually never heard of them... or of MVS, z/OS etc... I guess VM are becoming known today - from VMware's succes - even amongst kindergartena and old age pensioners.

[chrlrs]

XP as base system. Yes. But its on the computer that they use to ACCESS the mainframe from. They use a terminal emulator under windows. Nothing funny or unusual in that. Another IBM'er may have used a Linux system run a similar emulator.

The stuff is for real!

You might also come across a zSeries mainframe running some 1000 Linux Virtual guests...each of them with more power than you would believe.

Mainframes KICK ASS for real.

[mike4ty4]

"Mainframes KICK ASS for real. "

But it depends on what you want to do. There's a reason that, for example, supercomputers are used instead of mainframes for extreme scientific computations that involve lots and lots of math.

[einyo]

That's because mainframes are not meant for scientific calculations. They're meant for high volume transaction processing and mass virtualization with absolute maximum reliability and security in mind.

Just because it isn't a number cruncher doesn't lessen the importance of the system for real-world workloads...your comment is misleading and doesn't have any relevance.

Mainframes indeed kick ass.

[mike4ty4]

"Just because it isn't a number cruncher doesn't lessen the importance of the system for real-world workloads...your comment is misleading and doesn't have any relevance."

The statement is not wrong. It _does_ depend on what you want to do. I did not say a mainframe is useless, I said it depends on what you want to do and you yourself admitted this. It's _great_ for the tasks you mention, but it is not great for every task.

[einyo]

The root of this was chrirs' comment that happened to remark that the system kicked ass for a particular purpose (ex, VM guests...precisely what you're saying), but you took his comment and spun it so that Joe ITworker might get the impression that distributed systems are superior. You even broke your response up into two pieces referencing supercomputers to do it! It was horribly misleading.

Eh, par since the 90s.This is a great video because it shows how flexible the platform is becoming!

[mike4ty4]

How did I make it give this impression?

[mike4ty4]

"Mainframes KICK ASS for real. "

But it depends on what you want to do. There's a reason that, for example, supercomputers are used instead of mainframes for extreme scientific computations that involve lots and lots of math.

[mike4ty4]

"

You might also come across a zSeries mainframe running some 1000 Linux Virtual guests...each of them with more power than you would believe.

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But obviously not enough power to satisfy the number-crunching requirements of, say, the physics research labs of the US Government.

[mike4ty4]

Unless perhaps they have a whole bunch of these machines, however from what I've read their supercomputers are NOT mainframes. Mainframes "kick ass" for some tasks, for others, they stink.

[solong36]

Does this only run under zvm or will it run in its own LPAR ??

[dopeskills1]

Yay, ZFS on System Z

[mwbrown42]

They're only using Windows to run a 3270 terminal emulator to talk to the mainframe over the network. The user logged in, then booted OpenSolaris as a guest operating system under the mainframe's virtual system, the same way zOS, RedHat and SuSE Linux do.

[ProzacR]

Windows XP as base system?: look carefuly and you will see start menu.

And this is real Unix system?

I think it is real super-duper DOS system with tons of useless code on it. :)