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  • lol, the catholic church priests prefer them much younger!!!

  • wtf?????

  • Cue for some nun jokes here.

  • Did I just see Benny XVI lick his eyebrows? ;-P~

  • doesnt look very ethical for a religious meet

  • pop a boner pope.... I bet he had a hard-on the whole time, hypocrite

  • In the end the nuns were like "Wooo!"

  • theyre too old for the pope

  • ooo if it woulda been 12 year old shirtless choir boys, popes penis would of been like *BOING!* "HELLOOO!!!"

  • Who is the girl in black?

  • Holy Father... Really, stop ridiculing the Church...

  • the pope seemed very uninterested by their performance which was a shame because they seem very talented but I think think they should have had some sort of top on to be dignified in front of the pope in my opinion but the does not seem 100% in this vid I must say though

  • Let me dance for the pope! :DDDDDDD

  • Wow this is Satanic As Hell…. They are Dancing on the SATURN EL Matt! for known satanic homosexual ritualist's,ahhrhahrhahrhahah SATURN EL

  • 0:44 Pope thinking: "WTF I am watching"

  • @3v11 nah look at his eyes he enjoys it. :DDD

  • The Associated Press should be sued by the Roman Catholic Church for such a head line to be posted on youtube. "Raw Video: Shirtless Acrobats Dance for Pope". Associated Press is suggesting what? That this performance suggest sexual behavior? Are you for-real? Only in the USA do minds see an acrobatic act and see something sexual. These men are four brothers who is following a family tradition a circus Performers. There men train for hours daily to achieve their physic and abilities.

  • @hawchubby39 If you think the first 15 seconds doesn't look like a porno you've never seen a porno...

  • I wish I would have been the pope during this performance. Such a lucky man.

  • there funding went up so they replaced small children with older musceled men

  • what a fag

  • God please forgive these people who brought theses men into your servants.

  • .42 seconds: post-ejaculation tristesse.

  • When me and a friend were little and we got molested, WHICH IS WHY WE LIKE COCK to this day. When We told our mothers they lituraly thought we were lying we got beaten with the belt and grounded. It was until 20yrs latter that bastered came out in the local news that are fucking parents said they were sorry. Anyway after are grounding we would put piss in the holy water and watch everyone rub it on themselfs. I Dont Regret that one bit. Christ was right....by the acts you will know.

  • The part in the beginning where they take off their jackets -- I mean...PEOPLE WORK WITH ME HERE! HOW is that part of an acrobatic routine?? 4 shaven young men taking off their clothes, ok, their jackets, while maintaining eye contact complete with suggestive grins DIRECTED AT THE POPE OF ALL PEOPLE!!! In the midst of the pedophile cases, WTF??? And his eyes are FIXATED on these young men. This is so blatantly HOMOSEXUAL. GET OFF YOUR KNEES PEOPLE.

  • he looks like the emperor from star wars

  • @zyddsoral Finaly someone notice, he sure dose!

  • If they were little boys, then the Pope and his fellow friends would have jizzed in their pants.

  • hahaha! They did it on purpose, come on! Just to bash the catholic church some more...

  • More gay than "what what in the butt"

  • More gay than "what what in the butt"

  • Demonic Sissy Ass Pope... that's the closest to heaven that evil bastard will get. and those groupei ass nunns.. like they were in a strip joint... this shit is so sad and a total outrage... but it seems normal to the blind and lost christians and catholics. lol. right in their faces they see this evil bastard pope drooling over half naked men, and the nunns waiving thier napking like it's money in a strip joint..LMAO.how much more in you're face can this blasphamy be?they're faggots n dikes

  • @SAShinigami Edit: Cardinals: (Thinking) "Dear Lord, I wish I could have sex"

  • Gay.

  • I'm not touching this one with a hundred foot pole.

  • dirty cunt needs a bullet

  • There isn't anything generally wrong with the Catholic Church. I think the problem lies with the current pope. John Paul the Second was better.

  • i love the nun at the end with her cam phone!

    whoever you are.......i love you xx

  • sisters at the end lmao

  • I was waiting for the female assistant to take off her top too... :(

  • I think that the pope jizzed in his pants at :40. Odd, since they have obviously been through puberty already.

  • and thaats why religion is retarted

  • What is "Religion"?"Religion" is perfectly defined in James I v 27

    "What God( The Father) considers to be pure and genuine Religion is this:to take care of orphans and widows in their suffering and to keep onself from being corrupted by the World".Religious hierarchies however,make up rules that often separate us from God.If all monotheistic creeds followed this and the 2 chief commandments then we would live in harmony with God,all keeping ourselves morally good and uncorrupted by the World.

  • There is one and ONLY one way to Heaven -through the narrow gate(MATTHEW 7 V13-14).There will be many' pious,devout Catholics',many Priests ,Bishops and Cardinals who will suffer the following-MATTHEW 7 V23-'GET AWAY FROM ME YOU WICKED PEOPLE".All the rosaries and novenas and Masses will be no good.They put their Religious devotion BEFORE Jesus imagining themselves worthy of salvation.Either you follow Jesus on His terms or on your own terms.Big difference.Can't fool GOD!

  • @SZYGY7 If the person will not allow God to work in them - to be truly converted - then indeed, all the masses, rosaries, novenas are no good. Yes, it MUST be on God's terms; not mine! The HS will completely 'rebuild you', if you let Him work & LISTEN to Him.

    Many ppl think that they can turn God on & off, like a phone connection. Not realizing that ALL evil we do, He sees as it is happening. That He is beside me - NOW.

  • Regardless of what particular denomination one belongs to,every Christian must accept what Jesus foretold.So even without any Marian apparitions at all,Jesus clearly states the stages preceding His coming especially in Matthew chapters 24 & 25

    (Matthew 24 v 10 "many will give up their faith at that time')

    Every true Christian must read what Jesus says in Matthew chpts 24&25.READ IT-It's important!The apostasy is clearly in full swing..

  • lmfao look at his face @ 0:10

  • The 'Chastisement 'of the Marian apparations=the entire contents of the Book of Revelations.Luciferians are allowed to rule Rome for a very short while before GOD's justice separates the Sheep from the Goats,the Wheat from the Chaff,the Good from the Evil,the repentant from the unrepentant.

  • @SZYGY7 Yes - this would be the essence of the TRUE 3rd Secret of Fatima. That is why Escriva & his cronies HAD to ensure its contents would never be revealed to the public; as it would point right at them! But it is too late now; it was also far too late in 1960: as they had completely infiltrated most Chanceries & the Vatican by then. With massive secular enablers.

    Thus when 'Babylon' falls, millions will fall with it: as 'they have committed fornication with her'.

  • @SZYGY7 There have always been evil clerics in the Church, especially since the 4th century. But in the sense of personal (NOT systemic) evil, sin, misdeeds.While some were bad; others were truly of God. Not of a holistic, systemic,organized connivance! That is what OD is. Yet its 'spirit' has always been in the background, as we look at church history.

    The Chastisement is the complete takeover by Evil of Rome, at one with Mammon.

  • @SZYGY7 The Marian apparitions were wake-up notices.But most preferred to be asleep......hence will have no 'oil for their lamps' when He comes. 

  • @SZYGY7 We have now experience the 'rain of animals' foretold in the LaSalette propehcy.....

  • @19lfm12 Looks like it all right..

  • Who is being honored in the above acrobatic display?Jesus or' the man in white'?

    Since 'BXVI' has shown himself to be false(his 'writings' look good on the surface but are riddled with Theological errors and contradictions),then it is not Jesus who is being honored.It is the man in white,the wolf -disguised -as -a -lamb,the spawn of lucifer.Time will prove the truth of this.

  • @SZYGY7 If this erotic display was in a purely secular setting, it would be one thing. But as the 'man in white' is asserted to be the sole representative of God on earth, this takes on a very luciferian tone. Obviously he, not Jesus, is honored here.

    Some of the most incredibly evil men are Canon Lawyers (they know what they can get away with), with advanced degrees in Theology. They can rationalize anything with impunity.

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  • It's a perfect deception:OD worships the papacy and answers to the pontiff,but if the pope is false (like the self-appointed 'Benedict XVI'),and if he is is not there by the will of God,then lucifer gets to run the church via OD.God put JP II in the Chair of St. Peter:Man(i.e the OD lobby) put "B16" on the chair.Do you really think God would choose such a dubious character as J.Ratzinger for head of the RCC?

    A total inversion of JPII.None are so blind as those 'faithful' who refuse to see!

  • @SZYGY7 JPII was a decent man, who was surrounded & overwhelmed by OD members whom he was persuaded to let in his inner circle. In a sense, Ratz has actually been de facto 'pope' for about 15 years, from the point JPII was completely controlled.

    The assertion that Escriva exhibited symptoms of possession come from former OD members observations. If you read The Way you will see the hand of lucifer in the 'theology' therein....

  • @19lfm12 Yes.The last True pope chosen by God before the counterfeit incumbent.People think that if something is shiny and prosperous looking,why then it must be good!The Elect would rather be deceived...

  • @SZYGY7 Opus Dei has toyed with both the Prophecy of St.Malachy & the messages of Garabandal to make it appear as if Ratz is legitimate; &suppressed the writings of Marie-Julie Jehanney, who predicted the rise of OD as prime malefactor of the end of these times.

    Sr.Lucia of Fatima was induced to enter a convent of OD nuns, due to the connivance of Escriva with his close friend, Bishop Ortiz of Tuy,Spain? She was controlled by them post 1950

  • @19lfm12 False piety is the perfect cover for wickedness!Look at many of the 'holy men' who turn out to be deviants.If I was a Cardinal I wouldn't want people to know about the 3rd secret of Fatima since the fruits of ecclesiastical masonry are evident in the great apostasy coming 'Ex Vaticano'.Worship of Christ comes before any pope.Blind obedience to the papacy is not the same as humble obedience to Christ.B16 is in the process of being deified.An abomination,the' awful horror'.Man=GOD

  • @SZYGY7 It's interesting that you cannot find the complete words of Marie-Julie Jahenney in English! As she warned of the 'sects' & 'masonry' infiltrating & taking over the Church, which actually began in her lifetime. Escriva inserted himself within the orbit of Sr.Lucia. OD had to know & then hide the 3rd Secret, as it would have pointed right at them. The obvious fabrication they gave to the world in 2000 is....obvious.

  • @SZYGY7 LaSalette, Fatima, Rosa Mystica, Akita...ALL of these point at the Cardinals/Bishops are the bad guys. While certain popes have been far less then perfect (!), Prelates have tried to mislead popes or interfere with whatever good they were trying to do; intentionally & in coordinated efforts.

    In 'electing' Ratz OD had a large number of OD Cardinals in place; the rest were 'persuaded' to comply. Fear is a great persuader......

  • @19lfm12 The Vatican mobsters make the mafia look like choir boys.They have cleverly tried to bury/besmirch Catholic prophecy.'Yet He has spoken through the prophets' through the ages.Der Fuhrerpapst is cunning,even praises God and pretends to be conservative whilst promoting dubious Cardinals to higher office,surrounding himself with a 'screen of good works'.Only the truly blind refuse to see the luciferians at work in satan's cosy grotto.Keep the Faith but 'Apage satanas!' to der Fuhrerpapst!

  • @SZYGY7 Indeed. What many fail to comprehend is that there is a difference between 'satanists' & these luciferians in the Vatican. Many 'satanists' do not believe in God; some do not believe in a literal devil.

    Luciferians believe God is real, yet chose to serve satan; the higher ranking ones especially. How else could they say mass with external propriety, yet intentionally NOT consecrate the elements! Ditto for their other connivances: the 'smoke screen' you reference.....

  • @SZYGY7 True....and the who BXVI scenario is rather like the story(The Emperor's New Clothes) where the Emperor in reality has no clothes. But out of fear of negative peer pressure, plus mass mental conditioning, the populace are willfully blind to the fact that the Emperor is in fact....naked. But they Blind themselves to the fraud, & even praise the 'clothes'.

    The reality of the present deception is that serious.

  • @19lfm12 OD have done a great job deceiving people by sowing the seeds of confusion re Fatima & Garabandal.BXVI has done well to fool everyone but the truth will out.Anyway,all the prophecy you ever need to know is ALREADY written:Matthew 24,2Thess2,2Peter3.The Divine Mercy of God will be followed inevitably by the Divine Justice.See the, parable of the net Jesus says that at 'the end of the Age'(MATTHEW 13 V 49-50)(''The angels will go out and gather up the evil people from among the good")

  • @SZYGY7 Yes, it is VERY hard for ppl to sift through the intentionally confusing maze of disinformation about Fatima & Garabandal. Indeed, all the prophecy one needs is in Scripture as you say. The true & unvarnished original Marian messages are completely Coherent with Scripture.

    The parable of the net is something which OD cannot do an 'end run; around. Though they will tell ANY lie that suits their ends. Even several conflicting ones at once!

  • @19lfm12 At the First coming of Christ the pharisees and high priests(The cardinals and papacy)of their day served lucifer by murdering Jesus(literally).They knew they were evil ,falsely pious hypocrites.

    As we approach the Parousia,the Second coming of Christ as a judge,the modern pharisees serve lucifer by crucifying Him again(symbolically) and desecrating the Faith from within.They know, as the pharisees did, what they have done.

  • @SZYGY7 Presently, by evil intention (in many cases)or gross incompetence most 'communion' is merely bread, as there has been NO Transubstantiation. Fraud, of which most ppl are clueless. Note: at Papal masses you must kneel before Ratz to receive;symbolic homage to him. Not to God. Globally if you do not receive, you are looked at as 'odd'; you must receive 'communion'....with...well, if God is not in the bread, then who is? The False Christ.

    There is no vacuum: its either God or lucifer.

  • @19lfm12 If this seems incredible, the by noting ceremonial body language, WHO is being venerated in these Papal Masses? The 'man in white'; not God. And if God is not the object of worship, then by default the Other Guy is.There is no such thing as a spiritual vacuum.

    The reception of fraudulent Holy Communion, globally, is the forerunner to the literal worship of the False Christ. Both gross stupidity & peer pressure compels most ppl to 'go along to get along'.

  • @19lfm12 You know, you're beginning to scare me. First you try to drive Catholics from loyalty to Rome, which marks us as unique from other Christian denominations. Now, you want to scare us away from receiving the Holy Eucharist. You're preaching heresy and I don't think you know it.

  • @MORKOS621 Clue: one may always make a Spiritual Communion; which is identical in effect. It requires nobody's permission, is free & available 24/7. Have you no Faith at all? God has provided an 'end run' around the luciferians in the Vatican.

    Clue: in Daniel & Revelations.

    Most masses are now INVALID; lacking the conscious projection of the validating sacramental intention. So where are all those hundreds of thousands of hosts coming from? WHEN were they consecrated???

  • @MORKOS621 The greatest heresy is for Prelates to KNOWINGLY allow priests to say invalid masses, for years. They know - very well.They cannot possibly NOT know, as thousands of laity have informed them.

    "the hosts were from the previous mass"...WHAT previous mass? Where? They are LYING! Many have seen priests UNCONSECRATED HOSTS into Tabernacles with their own eyes! Also you cannot consecrate via 'long distance'.

    Not on the Corporal = not consecrated.

  • @MORKOS621 1) if the bread or wine is covered continuously during the Canon = NO consecration

    2) if they are not literally on the Corporal, directly in front of the priest = NO consecration

    3) if the correct, validating sacramental intention is NOT consciously intended AND projected by the priest upon the elements = NO consecration.

    It is very easy to validly confect Transubstantiation.

    But as noted here, there are many ways to NOT do it; by stupidity or evil intent.

  • @MORKOS621 19flm12 has done nothing of the sort.You speak evil of the spirit-and you have the temerity to expect Salvation as a 'devout catholic'Read !MATTHEW 12 V32.YOU are the apostate and heretic ,sir with your blasphemous contempt of the HS and that work of the HS,the Gospel.God help you ,you are truly lost!You love your pious devotions more than you love Jesus-that's why you hate the Revealed truth.You REFUSE TO SEE-the sin of denial is a sin against the HS.

  • @SZYGY7 "Salvation as a 'devout catholic" is similar in deception to "being saved' for many Evangelicals. Neither has a clue what they are saying, nor that they are being sold horse meat as filet mignon! Merely belonging to some 'group' means nothing. Not does any external piety, of itself. Were that true, then we should all start whipping ourselves & brandishing theatrically oversized Rosaries.

    You must WANT to be converted & ALLOW the HS to work in you to change you; totally.

  • @19lfm12 What is interesting is that if I wish to receive the Eucharist in the mouth rather than in the hand,the Eucharistic minister I find generally assumes that you will take it-the Body Of Christ!-in your hands,as if it was a takeaway meal.Remember the Patten once used by altar boys to make sure the Eucharist didn't fall?I have seen Hosts spilt on Church floors.And all that hand shaking in the Mass-no respect for what is taking place during the Mass.Priests seem to love all that clapping!

  • @SZYGY7 sorry typo.Paten.

  • @SZYGY7 As an altar boy I remember using the Paten; to prevent sacriledge by accidents. To take it in the hand implies understanding, faith & care - which obviously is NOT there in most ppl! In the very early forms of the mass, there was an exchange of peace -in the 'foremass'; the much longer Pentitential Rite, which included Confession of Sin & Absolution. THEN the mass began.

    Handshaking & clapping is intentional - to distract from God.

  • @SZYGY7 How do you know if the revelations from Garabandal are of the Holy Spirit? By the way, the morality or lack thereof of a priest does not affect the validity of the sacraments. And I do not expect salvation as a devout Catholic. I believe salvation can be gained by anyone, Catholic, Protestant, Jew or Muslim, who follows the will of God as he or she understands it.

  • @MORKOS61 You are not guided by the HS.Salvation for all mankind can be gained yes but only by the willingness to accept Christ.Salvation for non-christians can occur at the moment of death. To suggest that salvation can be found elsewhere 'by ..who follows the will of God as he understands it" is the supreme 'christian, heresy.Suicide bombers,OD all think they are following God.Christ is the only way,the truth and the life.Reject this and you are the heretic aren't you?You've No clue at all!

  • @SZYGY7 OK.

  • @MORKOS621 Proof that Garabandal conforms with scripture?READ Matthew 24 v 30-31,

    1)The sign of the son of Man will appear in the Sky v30

    v31 refers to the Chastisement.You are not obliged to agree with Garabandal but you must accept Jesus's prophecies.Garabandal is the Marian equivalent of MATTHEW 24 V 29-31.

    We are running out of time....(Read Luke chpt 21 v25-28)

  • @SZYGY7 Well, we have until Dec. 23, 2012.

  • @MORKOS621 No one knows the hour except the Father.Prophetically speaking we are 'running out of time' as we approach the 2nd Coming of Christ.2012?2013?Dates don't count.Matt 24 36/37

    Anyone of any creed who satisfies the 2 chief commandments is close to God.Yet there is only one Redeemer and it is only by accepting(or being prepared to repent via)the Son of God that salvation is possible.If you reject Jesus you cannot truly love God.This is the test.God treats all equally no matter what creed

  • @SZYGY7 True. Many non-Christians - even non-believers - will be saved, IF their hearts are pure. If they do as Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount & Beatitudes....to love others, their enemies, to have mercy, be honest.....who LIVE His teaching without knowing Him, as the HS is preparing them to know Him.

    Those who truly reject Jesus are not necessarily non-believers, but those who THINK they are pious, yet do not do as He taught; who have no Mercy in them.

  • @19lfm12 Indeed.GOD's mercy is demonstrated by St. Paul's conversion from being actively anti-christian to becoming a true follower of Christ.A former enemy becomes His servant.An intelligent educated man becomes filled with Wisdom.So one is not condemned for having a lack of faith or formal belief system.My Faith is strong because previously I was an ardent atheist(Intellectually)but deep down still had a residual belief in God.This scripture is what converted me from Atheism.*

    I COR I V18-31*

  • @SZYGY7 Scripture is not mere words,it has power. Yet it will appear as mere words to those who lack Eyes to See. The HS must work in the person,illuminating. THEN understanding is given.

    This is why Jesus spoke in Parables: that only they who were open to the HS would understand. The rest are left confounded.

    My observation is that many priests are actually serving satan. As they react with great anger & fear when confronted with one is of God.

  • @19lfm12 You are preaching to the converted with me of course!The 'faithful' won't listen will they?As they say

    'There are none so blind as those who refuse to see'.

  • @SZYGY7 Pay close attention to the brilliant psychological manipulation being done with the papal masses. If you know of the famous 'dream of the two columns' of St.Don Bosco......they have provided VERY heavy subliminals in the Papal road trips alluding to this. Some obvious & plainly visible; others very hidden & observed only by a few (consciously).

    They are playing for keeps....with souls.

  • @19lfm12 If you want to know what Jesus thinks of 'holy men' read Matthew chpt 23('Jesus warns against the teachers of the law and the Pharisees').Every word of it is applicable to the Canonlawyers and senior Clergymen of the Vatican."v 13-14:"You lock the door to the Kingdom of Heaven in people's faces,and you yourselves don't get in,nor do you allow in those who are trying to enter"It is quite Ferocious!Whited sepulchres that look fine on the outside,yet inside -full of 'hypocrisy and sin".

  • @SZYGY7 For this reason Matt23 is my favorite chapter, as it sums up the sins of the Vatican & Christ's prophetic condemnation thereof.

    Of course, I am called 'hateful...bigot....Protestant­" for saying that by the incredibly Blind & Deaf folks in the extreme of Denial. I have one response:

    "Did the Jews, then or now, ever actively seek converts? "Crossing land & sea" to convert ppl?NO they do not.Only the Vatican has made a business of (forced) conversion".

  • @19lfm12 In fact, Jews once sought actively for converts - as you can read in the Acts of Apostles (around Peter´s pentecostal speach) there were numbers of Roman, Greek etc. converts to Judaism in Jerusalem at that moment. Of course, Christianity than took this mission role effectively away from Judaism which, consequently, drew off to it´s current national concept. Some authors (e.g. Paul Johnson) call this historical phenomenon as "Ademption of Jewish universalism" (if I use correct terms).

  • @finfelagund This is a lie - and you know it. The Jews NEVER actively sought converts, 'travelling over land & sea". Only the Constantinian Church has made a business of 'conversion' - usually by force.

    A clue for you: DENIAL = the sin against the Holy Spirit.

    The charges made by Christ in Matthew 23 were spoken to the Temple Masters of Jerusalem AND in prophecy against the Vatican Masters. The latter are guilty ON ALL COUNTS; even more so, as their deeds have been global.

  • @19lfm12 I was not speaking about "travelling over land and sea" - this was, in fact, only possible when Europe saw the boom of over-sea voyages. But there were no doubt many Jewish colonies that accepted neophytes, so proselytism, to some degree, was there.

    Much ado is done about forcible conversions but we must look closely to each respective case. When Constantin and Methodius came to our country and brought us the first Slavic stripture (and, in fact, culture), was it forcible conversion?

  • @finfelagund If you are so utterly foolish as to be in Denial...then so be it. But Denial is the sin against the Holy Spirit.....

    I never cease to be amazed at the complete Blindness to mundane historic realities from those who would claim to be of God! The Vatican has made a business of the Gospel,enriching themselves. Forcing ppl to 'convert' & to comply with their every whim. Taxing the poor. Compelling ppl under threat of social ostracism, torture or death to obey them.....not God!

  • @19lfm12 I just look on "mundane historic realities" in their integrality. The major burden on the shoulders of "the poor" was always imposed by civil authorities, no doubt about it. Similarly the greatest wars and other tragedies for humankind were brought about by states, not by religion nor business. Are you aware of the fact that concentration camps, gas chambers and gulags were state institutions? How is that you pay taxes, vote in pools etc. and don´t follow strict line of antietatism?

  • @19lfm12 And, please, after you have told me 20 times that I am in denial, tell me finally what or whom I deny???

  • @SZYGY7 If one understood those Scripture verse, then one would see the truth of Garabandal, Fatima, Akita, LaSallete.....this requires Faith & LISTENING to the HS.

    Yet most Catholics do not believe in the Sermon on the Mount or Beatitudes. They tell me: "oh, those are just some pretty words, but the core of the Gospel is that Jesus gave us the authority of the Pope".

    These fools! In Ratzinger,in the sign of the Inverted Cross they will die. I pity them - yet 'they have Moses& the Prophets'

  • @19lfm12 The 3rd secret of Fatima was intentionally and fradulently altered by those well known Cardinals in senior positions of power.They made it look as if it was nothing, denying the fact that it was apocalyptic in nature .It refers to satanic infiltration of the RCC and the apostasy.If it was nothing important then why wait so long to publish it?Unless it had to do with these Churchmen.BI6 gave the 'theological commentary'-contradicting Lucia.Now he heads the church.

  • @SZYGY7 An assassination attempt and a miraculous rescue are not nothing. Didn't Lucia say people would be "sad" if they knew what the third secret was? Tell me, would you be "sad" if you found out that God was going to bring destruction down upon your head? Wouldn't you be terrified, instead?

  • @MORKOS621 The apocalyptic truth of Fatima was 'watered down'.JPII was always under the BVM'S protection.One can be 'sad' at the final Judgement but mankind's wickedness deserves to be purged.And GOD is not 'bringing destruction down upon us'-the sins of Mankind are.The more sin,the more chaos in the world,the more powerful lucifer gets.Mankind has brought this on itself.GOD's holy justice cannot be stopped now.Lucifer is the one you should blame:It is not GOD's fault.Who caused WW1/WW2?Mankind

  • @MORKOS621 The convent in Fatima, where Sr. Lucia lived for the final 50 odd years of her life, was literally a convent of Opus Dei. She was their prisoner. A fait accompli! She was tricked into going their via Escriva & his collaborators. The text of the Secret was made known to them & thus suppressed. As it indicted OD as the malefactors!

    They control the Vatican. This it is upon them - as the REAL Secret says, in confirmation of Revelations - that God will bring utter destruction

  • @19lfm12 Don't you just love conspiracy theories. I have one; Michael Jackson was murdered by the Iranian government so that Twitter would be so full of discussions about him and not have room for messages from Iranian dissidents. LOL

  • @MORKOS621 Pope Pius IX called Vatican I to strengthen his authority & temporal power.He tried to compel the Cardinals to agree to his insane 'Infallibility Doctrine'. Many of them wisely fled to avoid it.

    Within 1 month of re-asserting the Temporal Power of the Papacy. God allowed the conquest & seizure of the Papal States, stripping away ALL his Temporal Power.

    God always wins......play chess with God & you lose.

  • @19lfm12 So, Pius IX too?

  • @MORKOS621 The Greek-Catholic Patriarch Youssef had opposed the infallibility decree, and left Rome before the dogma was voted upon. Later, Pius IX “forced the Patriarch to kneel in front of him, then placed his foot on the Patriarch’s neck,” and said, “testa dura”[ (in essence, calling him a stubborn mule).

    This does not exactly describe a man who comprehends much less LIVES the Gospel.....

    So much for Pius IX.

  • @19lfm12 Well, I do agree he was a bit of a jerk. Kidnapping a Jewish kid because of a story that the little guy had been baptized. But he did proclaim the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception. As a Marian devotee, you can't say that was a bad thing.

  • @MORKOS621 The Immaculate Conception was known since Apostolic times. There was no need for him to 'approve' of it. However in clarifying it he proves the saying: 'even the devil must serve God'....

    The need to 'approve' of the Immaculate Conception is like the need to 'approve' of 'Thou shalt not kill'.

    Pius IX was likely either bipolar or suffered from some type of mental/emotional instability, as indicated by the wild swings in temperment & views. He was not a well man. 

  • @MORKOS621 The Council of Nicea (325AD), called & chaired by the pagan Constantine, resulted in the horrid persecution of Arian Christians.

    About 100 years later, God allowed the Sack of Rome.....by Arian Christians.

    Checkmate!

    God always wins.

  • @19lfm12 Why is it always some Catholic atrocity? Don't tell me God never avenged any atrocities committed against Catholics.

  • @MORKOS621 Name another human institution which claims to:

    a) be Infallible

    b) be the sole representative of God on earth

    c) speak with His authority.

    d) be the gatekeeper of Heaven & Hell

    While God does not approve of anyone's sins, those done by a human entity making these assertion are FAR more serious.

  • @19lfm12 Papal infallibility is a gift of the Spirit. Even in the Old Dispensation. Remember that the Holy Spirit even spoke through Caiaphas, as the High Priest of the Temple, when he declared that Jesus should die so that the Nation should live.

  • @MORKOS621 Caiphas has zero to do with 'papal infallibility'. You are equating the words of the servants of Lucifer, the Pharisees, as being inspired by the HS & of being 'infallible'. Do you realize the level of Blasphemy you have uttered?

    Infallible = never false/always true

    You cannot pick & choose when you are infallible;you either are or are not. The entire construct is from hell! Worse, it implies HEEDING & OBEYING the HS...which the Vatican is stubbornly DEAF to.

  • @19lfm12 Don't you just love conspiracy theories. I have one; Michael Jackson was murdered by the Iranian government so that Twitter would be so full of discussions about him and not have room for messages from Iranian dissidents. LOL

  • @MORKOS621 Yes. I guess the Gospel of Jesus Christ is a conspiracy theory to you.If you were on the way to salvation you would not still be resisting the known truth so arduously.If you expect salvation on your own terms then.. alas for you-you shall never enter!How can you get in now when you have no oil for your lamp?You are not willing to go through the narrow gate as Jesus asks.For future reference-remember that YOU chose to be lost won't you?It was your choice-you would not listen.

  • @SZYGY7 Here, maybe you should read this. Matthew 7:1

  • @MORKOS621 And you should read this Matthew 7 v 21-23,That's all You can muster-I LINE OF SCRIPTURE!.What a whited sepulchre,a blasphemer of the HS,a thorn in the side of Christ!You know what your reward will be don't you?Only a serpent would say what you do!APAGE SATANAS.You are not a christian.You do not follow Jesus you only speak evil of His truth.GOD have mercy on you.. and you think you'll be saved!!

  • @SZYGY7 I didn't say I'd be saved. But you're so certain I'd be damned.

  • @MORKOS621 Yes If you REFUSE to follow what Jesus says despite your alleged devotion.You are good at twisting the truth to protect your own cosy catholicism:That's why you fight so hard against the Truth.I told you to read the Gospel and take Jesus's warnings seriously.If you chose to follow the road of your imagined piety in conflict with Jesus Teachings then I'm afraid you will exclude yourself from salvation,Yes.Ignore Christ's warnings,you WILL be lost certainly.

  • @MORKOS621 One damns himself. Refusing to understand & live the Gospel is key to damnation. Love & mercy toward others are how to LIVE it; as how you love others = how you love God. Not by going to church or external 'piety'. Those who are of the Kingdom are like little children: eager to learn from the beloved parent. They gladly LISTEN to the HS & learn from Him. All Denial, blindness & self-deception is stripped away.

  • @19lfm12 Exactly.It is entierly self-inflicted,which is why Pride is such a terrible sin for many souls.

  • @SZYGY7 Indeed. 'A Christmas Carol' by Chas. Dickens is a wonderful parable. Scrooge is Blind, full of Pride & in complete Denial of his reality. He is allowed a rare gift: to see himself as he truly is, & how he gradually became so Blind. AND to see what his sin does to others, which most of us never contemplate! How his life affects those around him.

    We could say that the HS worked in his soul...& he was 'created'..made anew....born again.

  • @MORKOS621 Hey..maybe you should read Revelations....and then the true & original (and UN altered) messages of LaSalette, Fatima, Rosa Mystica, Garabandal & Akita....and note the Coherence. And warning of impending apocalyptic doom for those who fail to heed.

    Note well: the intended recipient of said warnings was the Vatican Administration, as they would rule over men.

  • @19lfm12 Maybe I will, thanks.

  • @MORKOS621 The road to hell is paved with good intentions,false piety and a fradulent faith.

    Either you follow Jesus on HIS terms(a narrow path)to salvation -that few take.

    OR

    You follow Jesus on YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING(A wide path) to perdition- most take.

    It is the latter path that many devout Catholics follow because they suit themselves rather than truly serve Christ.That will be your choice and your fate as it is the path YOU chose.Turn to the first true path and you will be saved.

  • @SZYGY7 Some people's paths are so narrow, they don't see their fellow travelers and don't stop to help if one of them stumbles.

  • @MORKOS621 I have tried to help you see the Truth as you stumble blindly forward.I have told you to read the Gospel,pray to Jesus.YOU do not agree with Jesus or take Him seriously,constantly twisting and attacking the Truth to suit yourself.That's why it will be so hard for you.You won't fool Jesus with token piety.For the last time read Matthew chpt 25-that's how it shall be then for you.Denial of the Known truth is a sin against the HS-you are full of denial.

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  • @SZYGY7 Many ppl, while aware of Truth on some level, rationalize their Denial & sins. Denial is critical to shutting off the HS, as the level of rationalization grows, so too Denial. They are complimentary. They think: 'the Church says X, so I will do X'; never thinking it through.

    "If I have all Faith (i,e, external practices, knowledge of doctrines) but nor Charity, I am a sounding brass; a tinkling cymbal..." One cannot claim to know/love God & not his brother.

  • @19lfm12 That's exactly it.Since denial is a refusal to accept the revealed Truth,remaining in that state is blocking GOD's Holy Spirit from working in that soul.The remedy?Read thoroughly what Jesus says in scripture(the work of the HS),live the gospel honestly,live by faith(NOT by theological argument),internal piety (rather than external displays), and regular Confession to cleanse the soul and respectful worship at Mass,especially in receiving the Eucharist.

  • @SZYGY7 True - though at present, Opus Dei has literally made the reception of valid Eucharist a mathematical impossibility (or uncertainty, at best). Confession is now non-existent, as the churches are locked up tight & 'father is never in'. UNLESS...you go to an OD priest, as they (literally) are the ONLY priests now offering Confession.

    BUT God always wins. One may make a Spiritual Communion anytime, free! God forgives sins if you ask Him to. But you must WANT His mercy & forgiveness..

  • @19lfm12 So many good people have walked away and are separated from Jesus.The one common factor behind it all,down through the ages:the Vatican administration.It has always been a battleground between good and evil.This papacy may belong to lucifer but will disappear in GOD'S justice.The writings of b16 are cleverly written to appear faithful but anyone guided by the HS will see through it.The Vatican is like a shiny apple with a rotten core.

  • @SZYGY7 It is for that reason - for part of Ratz's "function" - that he needed to be a brilliant theological expert.

    Some of the most evil priests I have met have had advanced degrees in Theology; they know how to twist things to SEEM good. Knowing that most ppl are clueless. Ditto for Canon Lawyers....the sleaziest lawyers on earth, as they know exactly how much they can get away with.

    Ratz is expert in & experienced in both

  • @19lfm12 That's the luciferians all right:well versed in doctrinaire theology & canon law,experts in external piety.The perfect cover for those unholy Clergymen masquerading as 'angels of light'.But people only see the surface so if something dresses in white and speaks sweet-nothings praising Jesus ,pretending to be devout whilst inwardly filled with evil,why then,it must be good!If Jesus was angry at the Pharisees would He not be outraged at those cardinals in Rome for causing scandal?Matt 23

  • @SZYGY7 Such well crafted lying is seen in clerics who are well dressed, with late model luxury cars & huge wads of cash in their pockets....who say 'we have no money'...yet remain credible to 'the faithful' as they are so deep in Denial! They learn this Method Acting from their seminary mentors. They learn how to lie, believably.

    These 'actors' are often in the various 'orders'...Savoy, Malta,etc.....& have links to the regular Lodge as well, sometimes. A complete luciferian charade

  • @SZYGY7 A classic example was Escriva himself, who had both a Doctorate in Canon Law AND Civil Law. Thus a civil & canonical lawyer.......such a person has the ability to lie with impunity that would make a typical corporate lawyer blush! Imagine the mental gymnastics he is capable of!

    BTW - Ratz's papal master of ceremonies has advanced degrees in the 'psychology of communication'. A media manipulator & master of subliminal mind control. Watch the masses & papal road trips......

  • @MORKOS621 I stopped to help many times here you but you REFUSED to listen.You didn't want it though did you?Good luck when you come before Jesus when HE comes as a judge.No excuses will be possible.

  • @SZYGY7 It is for this reason that Jesus used the imagery..."Behold! I stand at the door & knock".

    He will never leave the doorn or cease knocking. But one who first ignores the knocking & will not open the door, may grow increasingly Deaf to the knocking, finally shutting out the sound from his consciousness altogether.

    Yet Christ, in His Mercy continues to knock, until one breathes his last. So that at Judgment no man can say

    'I did not know someone was knocking'.

  • @19lfm12 The wisdom of the parables is astonishing.The 4 different possible responses to the Gospel message are expertly and ingeniously elucidated in the Parable of the Sower(Matthew chpt 13).Nowhere else do you find such wisdom and such clarity.I spent some years comparing / contrasting different belief systems from Lao Tzu to Zoroastrianism.Only in Jesus and the HS have I found the Truth. "He is the Way,the Truth and the Life" is the law of salvation for all souls from start to end of time.

  • @SZYGY7 The other belief systems contain elements of Truth, but only Christ has all.

    Those 4 responses to the Sower are expressed in how ppl react & also to stages of response. One can first respond as the seed fallen on rocks, but with repeated seeding, gradually become 'fertile ground' via the action of the HS. BUT...you must WANT to be fertile; be WILLING.

    Once you are willing to listen, the Ph of your soil is changed:)

  • @MORKOS621 The prefect illustration of that is the Good Samaritan. The Priest & the 'Doctor of the Law' (Bishop) remain willfully Blind to the bleeding man on the road, avoiding him. Not only Blind to his pain, but not wanting to risk ritual defilement of themselves - external piety uber alles.

    Yet a non-believer/pagan (Samaritan) who has imbibed the Gospel without ever hearing it, helps the man - expending his time & $ to see to his healing.

  • @SZYGY7 In a way, it is like some'holy-roller' who shouts:"I'm saved...I am free from sin!".

    Un-huh...and what happens when you sin tomorrow? Such incoherent,non-comprehension is like one who gets auto insurance & now thinks he has nothing more to worry about. He is 'covered'; it does not matter how he drives.

    Such Blindness = never seeing the oncoming truck.......much less knowing how to deal with it.

  • @SZYGY7 Abortion is the classic example of failed Catholic 'piety'.

    Rather then do anything of material substance to HELP to women in crisis pregnancy (enable them to keep the child), much less pray for them in humility.....they rant, rave, scream, humiliate them. Forming groups which promote Fanaticism & hatred.

    Perhaps if they showed MERCY to these women, providing unlimited material assistance, fewer abortions would occur.

  • @MORKOS621 An assassination attempt arranged via element linked to Gladio, which is linked to Opus Dei....? In which the (then..) uncooperative Pope is either killed or nearly so. Either eliminating him, or causing him to become more 'cooperative'; resulting in the estabishment of OD as a Parallel Church & giving them control of the Vatican Bank, hence the pursestrings of every diocese on earth.

    If he die, he is a martyr; lives - thus a Living Martyr...which OD capitalized on.

  • @SZYGY7 My understanding is that the original text, though sealed, was received by the Vatican...'opened'. That it had been read & resealed. Intercepted by some servant of Escriva. So massive is the deception they 'unveiled' in 2000, that only lucifer could be behind it! ODs media links were used to spread this lie. Their multifaceted front organizations in the church spread it. The oft repeated lie becomes 'truth'.

    Those who question is are 'disloyal' Catholics....

  • @19lfm12 Fr Malachi Martin I believe is on record as saying on a syndicated radio broadcast that"the vatican published forged letters in her name''and when asked who was suppressing the truth about Fatima said "a whole bunch of catholic prelates who belong to satan.They're servants of satan".No wonder they hide the truth.

    See also wiki/pedia "three secrets of Fatima'' .

  • @SZYGY7 Martin is a mixed bag, who had links to Opus Dei. BUT...as in this, he speaks truth! You have to read/listen to him very carefully, as the truth may actually be in subtext (or reverse speech). If you sift through what he says, much is revealed. He was linked to intelligence, so proceed with caution. Yet, truth can always be found in such a person, as ultimately (via God) they will subconsciously let it slip out.

    What he says here is 100% true!

  • @SZYGY7 Please understand: I am not discrediting what Martin says. Just pointing out that such a man,no matter how honest, is placed in a double-bind. He can only say so much, before he places his life in jeopardy. One problem with him is that he got linked to ultra-traditionalism, which of itself is a type of Blindness.

    He IS correct in this about Fatima. And very likely correct in his assertion of a dedication of the Vatican to lucifer.....

  • @19lfm12 Actually my point is simply this:Many priests,good and bad ones, knew that satanic infiltration was taking place.Martin,regardless of anything else,seemed to see this and pointed it out.I believe an exorcist,a Fr Amorth in recent years said that satan was in the Vatican.

  • @SZYGY7 Indeed, Martin was saying that - & was correct! He also referenced Amorth's assertion that satan was in the Vatican, back in the 90s.

    Good priests know it's true & that they can do nothing about it, except pray & offer personal sacrifices for souls. The bad priests, who are the vast majority, know it too - & enable it by their deeds. Plus agendas assigned to them...like intentionally ruining parishes, etc.

  • @SZYGY7 I have many of Martin's books & tapes - and have heard more then a few of those many radio interviews he did.

    While he never directly mentioned OD (that I recall), if you read between the lines they are there in those 'servants of satan' he alludes to. Of course they come in both Left & Right wing versions, as OD loves to use the Strategy of Tension...& Plausible Deniability:)

  • @MORKOS621 We are not referring to the morality of a priest; but to the intentional & conscious projection of the validating sacramental intention over the elements. ONLY by this does the HS work through the priest (as a vessel) to confect Transubstantiation. The HS does it; not the priest - but he must cooperate with the HS. It ONLY works this way. He must INTEND to do this.

    If a priest does not INTEND to absolve you of your sins, there is NO absolution. 

  • @MORKOS621 "try to drive Catholics from loyalty to Rome"...the last time I checked, the true core of the Catholic Faith is CHRIST, not Rome, the pope or the Vatican. His Gospel, as in the Sermon on the Mount & Beatitudes is the only 'Key' to unlocking the Kingdom of Heaven. Not Ratzginer.

    Christ, His Gospel & the true 'Keys" existed centuries before the Imperial Papacy & Vatican was confected. The hundreds of thousands of Roman martyrs knew NOTHING of the latter!

  • @19lfm12 Christ gave the keys to His Kingdom to His chief disciple Peter, who passed them on to his successors, the latest of whom is Benedict.

  • @MORKOS621 The 'Keys' to the Kingdom of Heaven are the Gospel itself; Jesus' teaching. Understand & live it, & you gain entrance to the Kingdom - now, in Time. The Kingdom is a spiritual family of all who believe in Him & do what He taught.

    The Kingdom is NOT the Vatican, as it neither believes in Him, nor does it do as He taught; & remains DEAF to the HS.

    Those who are of the Kingdom are those who are sincere & love others without thought of reward.

  • @19lfm12 Of course, the Kingdom's not the Vatican. The Keys are for the gate to the Kingdom. The Vatican is the caretaker's cottage.

  • @MORKOS621 And if a wolf disguised as a lamb slithers into the caretaker's cottage,how foolish would it be to ignore the consequences?

  • @SZYGY7 'Wolf Identification 101"......

    "And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns, like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon"

    Of Opus Dei..."the ten horns which thou sawest, are ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but shall receive power as kings one hour after the beast. ...These have one design: and their strength and power they shall deliver to the beast.....that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled."

  • @MORKOS621 the Vatican was never the 'caretaker'. And the 'Keys' have been repossessed by their Giver now, for safekeeping. If the Vatican ever had any residual spiritual authority, it has now lost it. Totally.

    It is not of God. It neither know Him, fears Him, nor serves Him.