@gamerproHQ AND WHO CARES IF BMICHAELOB IS GAY? WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? GAMERPROHQ, YOU ARE A HOMOPHOB AND YOU REALLY NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!
Oh HAVE A CRY! - someone famous dies and all of a sudden were all emotional wrecks! People get way to attached to these things and Americans are the worst of all - I mean seriously there is a world of long haired pretty things with pointy chest bits and inverted areas called women that you all need to experience!
some people are just ignorant and pathetic, they have no idea what they're talking about. they're miserable and feel they must bring others down to their despicable level. it kinda makes you wonder what kind of horrible life they live to want to do such things. it doesn't matter, let them wallow in their hate and "tough" words to someone who is dead and didn't do anything to them. (some people on youtube are retarded)
Pathetic indeed. Apparently all these pedophiles who are desperately hoping for MJ to be like them are voting down comments by those who defend facts and rational thought, and point out that there's no evidnce that MJ is guilty of being molesters (unlike all these people voting down people who are not pedophiles like them).
Wow, it's pretty pathetic to see all of bubbah's comments being censored/rated down because his arguments are rational and factual, and expose clowns like westeightyone.
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some of you people really are pathetic excuses for human beings. MJ is dead, leave it alone already. show some respect and stop being so hateful. R.I.P Michael 1958-2009
Look at how the pedophiles are voting your comment down just because they are desperately hoping for MJ to be like them.
People like westeightyone want to justify being pedophiles, so they use irrational and factually wrong arguments to "prove" that MJ is like them. Quite sad, really.
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That's interesting, westeightyone, because MJ was never convicted of anything. In fact, he was thoroughly acquitted in the second case, and the kid from the first case admitted after Jackson's death that it was just a lie.
What's interesting, bubbah, is that M.J. allowed himself to be put in a position to be charged with molesting another kid AFTER everything he'd gone through with that first kid.
Why would MJ do that ? Because he's a predator. He was arrogant and horny enough to surrender his power of reason to his darkest desire.
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MJ put himself in a position to be charged again because he was naive and was used to being around kids. Your argument is basically "he was around kids, therefore predator". You are indeed a pathetic moron.
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westeightyone: He was used to being around kids because he never had a childhood and tried to catch up, and he thought kids were more honest and pleasant than most adults.
Seriously, you would have known this if you had educated yourself before spouting nonsense.
seriously, you're coming off like a charter member of N.A.M.B.L.A. ( North American
Man / Boy Love Association ).
The video on your channel about you NOT being anti-pedophillia is disturbingly creepy.
Your statement in the 'not anti-pedophillia' video suggesting that 'a pedophile can't help being a pedophile any more than a black person can help being a black person' says it all. You sound like you'd be okay with M.J. molesting little boys if it had been proven in court. You're sick.
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westeightyone: You have not ben presenting facts. You have presented nothing but groundless assertions and factual errors.
You are unable to answer the actual facts of the matter, so you try to change the subject.
The fact that both skin color and sexual orientation (including homosexuality) are involuntary traits is not really relevant here, but you are so desperate to find another child molester like yourself that you will do anything to find a friend in crime.
Wow, you just got owned in the debate. Basing your arguments on personal emotions, bigotry and speculation rather than facts usually doesn't work very well!
And reacting by attacking the guy who crushed you just makes you look rather sad.
You don't have a problem with an effeminate forty year old man sleeping alone in a bedroom with an eleven year old boy that he isn't related to.
You don't find anything wrong with that same
'man' inviting other little boys to sleep alone with him in the same bedroom AFTER he'd paid millions to a little boy to avoid going on trial for child molestation.
You're prepared to cut a famous celebrity slack that you wouldn't if he was a 'nobody'.
You don't find it odd, that the mothers are knowing that they are sending there kids to get hurt for money... The mothers want this to happen to their kids, which is sick and twisted. The mothers are going to bun in hell.... I don't believe that he did it....
Any mother or father who would allow their kid to spend the night alone with a person who paid out millions of dollars to a young boy to avoid prosecution for child molestation is an unfit parent. Any mother or father who would do that is either 1. / incredibly stupid or 2. / using their kid as bait to extort money.
Q; Why would Jackson continue to allow himself to be put in such a position?
A : He was ruled by his desire to the extent of risking all he had.
This is nothing but a groundless assertion. Fact is, he had hundreds if not thousands of kids visiting him.
And yet there are only two cases, and in both of them the claims by the kids and their parents were self-contradictory, they put forth factual errors (like a wrong description of his genitals).
For your hypothesis to hold any water there must be more than speculation based on your own ignorance.
Of course they happily sent their children there. They knew that they were perfectly safe. In fact, Jackson was hardly ever alone with the kids (never alone with the first kid who accused him, as a matter of fact). There were always other adults around.
The two claims of sexual abuse were nothing but poorly planned attempts at extorting money from Jackson.
They were motivated by greed. Apparently westeightyone is able to recognize sexual drive, but not greed for money.
Jackson was not a normal 40 year old man. Psychologists basically described him as being a child on the inside. He never had a childhood. He loved children (in a non-sexual way), and loved having them around.
Also, it was the kids who asked if they could sleep in his room.
And besides, the family of the first kid actually stated that the kid never was alone with Jackson!
All you have is pure speculation based on a complete lack of understanding of the human psyche.
@westeightyone Apparently you don't know what the hell you are talking about! HE didn't settle his insurance and financial advisers did, he had no control over the money. That is EXACTLY whats wrong with the people today, letting a child stay with you is an act of pedophilia. He SHARED his bed and SLEPT in a sleeping bag. WHAT you don't understand is his bedroom is the size of your house. YOU ignorant pathetic ASS do a little research before you go typing away!
@beLIEver2558 Yeah. Uh huh. He ' slept' in a sleeping bag. His bedroom could be the size of a football field but that doesn't mean that he ' slept' on the opposite side of the room. He said that he ' slept ' in a sleeping bag when he shared his bed with children. Why would he lie about something like that, you clueless imbecile? Yeah. Uh huh. So much for your ' research' , chump.
@westeightyone HE ADMITTED THAT HIS FATHER TOLD HIM TO LIE! FOR MONEY!
so your telling me if your child was molested by this 'sick twisted pedophile' you'd just say "OH yeah i'll take the money forget about my child being emotionally and physically scarred forever" a REAL parent wouldnt say that they had a motive: MONEY...
your brain dead insignificant fuck. THAT was not research by the way that was YOUR opinion, asstard.
@beLIEver2558 Type a little louder, shmuck.I'm telling you (not that you have brains enough to listen) that the father didn't want to take the chance that Jackson would escape without punishment.Pedophile priests have been acquitted.The kid didn't go to a doctor immediately after he was molested.There wasn't a rape kit involved, dullard.The father didn't want his kid to suffer through the trauma of a trial.You haven't done research, goof. Stop talking as if you were there.
@westeightyone "He didn't want his kid suffer through the trauma of the trail" but yet he did it anyway ??? And yes throwing him a couple of dollars for a new car or house or whatever the hell he bought was "Punishment".HE SETTLED! that is not punishment enough for me. Why didn't they go to the POLICE first instead of a lawyer? that he .“If I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I will get everything I want and he will be destroyed forever…” - Evan Chandler
@beLIEver2558 The trauma of an extended trial that could end up with a dismissal. It's not unusual for victims to settle outside of court to avoid the uncertainty of the final verdict. Why did Jackson pay the settlement? The public was already aware of the charges against Jackson. As for the quote you provided, it sounds like it was about a father who was out to destroy the man who molested his son. You can't blame a father for wanting to do that.
@westeightyone no you're right i can't, but when he is more worried about ruining someone's career than the ensuring the welfare of his child that is another story.Michael Jackson didn't pay the settlement his insurance did he didn't even want them to go through with it they went against his jurisdiction. Evan was jealous he thought June was having an affair with this rich pop singer so he came at him the best way he knew how, evil manipulative deception and lying.
@beLIEver2558 The father didn't send his kid to Michael Jackson to be raped. Not getting money from Michael Jackson after his kid had been raped would not ensure the welfare of his child. His son wasn't in any danger of being raped by Michael Jackson again. Do you have a problem with parents getting money from the Catholic church when their kid have been raped by a priest ? There's no certainty of justice being done and the pervert going to jail. Evan was jealous ?!? You're insane.
@westeightyone How wasn't he in any danger, they settled so now this "pedophile" is still walking the streets consequence free. If that was my son (thank the fucking lord its not) and he was saying he had been raped, NO amount of money could make up for the innocence he took away from my son..i want that sick bastard in prison getting assfucked my a man named Bullet. BUT this wasn't the case they took the money and ran, they began to realize people were smelling his bullshit so he
@beLIEver2558 If the pedophile had any brains left ( the plastic surgeons must have slipped and performed a lobotomy while they were cutting up his face ) he would have stopped having children sleep alone with him in his bedroom. The charges outed him as a pedophile. The parents who continued to let their kids sleep in a bedroom with Michael Jackson were unfit parents. Would you have allowed your son to stay in a bedroom alone with Jackson after the charges against him came to light?
@westeightyone took it and left. After the case he demanded more money for his own record company or some bullshit "EVANstory" but it was over he rode the money train and it was his last stop. June didn't even want to testify against Michael and when it came down to it she said she had not seen any inappropriate behavior between Jordan and Michael. SOOO now the father is they ONLY person who witnessed sexual molestation of his son or at least the only one who believes him.
@beLIEver2558 June didn't ' believe' her son publicly. That doesn't mean that she didn't believe him privately. She may have been intimidated by the thought of going up against Jackson's high-priced Legal Dream Team. She may have been concerned that she would be portrayed as an unfit mother to the public at large. She allowed her son to sleep alone in a bedroom with a 40 yr old man she didn't know.That doesn't exactly make her ' mother of the year '.
@westeightyone A mother should defend her child no matter WHAT , if the public believes she's a unfit mother FUCK THEM she is fighting for her child's innocence. He didn't stop letting children in his house because he loved them, he knew who he was and that he was NOT a child molester, if someone tells you, you are ugly would you spend the rest of your life in the shadows crying? NO! You don't givafuck because you know who you are!
@beLIEver2558 Did I say that a mother shouldn't defend her child ? Fuck her for allowing her son to stay overnight in a bedroom alone with a 40 year old man who she didn't know.Jackson didn' t think he was doing anything wrong when he molested her son. He ' loved' boys in the same way that a member of NAMBLA would. He didn't stop taking children into his bedroom because unfit parents like yourself foolishly gave him the benefit of the doubt.
@westeightyone The parents that let their child stay there after the charges and still accused him a child molestation are idiotic scumbags who saw that people made money off of Michael's Innocence, freedom and kindness. TBH If i just met a man and he was accused of sexual molestation of a minor HELL NO i wouldn't let my child sleep with them but i think Michael is and always has been innocent so therefore i would. I trust him enough.
@beLIEver2558 It's a lucky thing for your son that you never got to meet Michael Jackson. Your kid would have been getting the Jackson low Five in no time.
@westeightyone So you have no doubt in your mind that Michael Jackson is a child molester, that the parents were really fighting for their child and they were not money hungry dogs and scam artist. Sending their kids into Macy's to shoplift. Lying continuously through the whole trial. Please don't insult me or my parenting skills. If the kid(s) really thought they were in danger, why didn't they just fightback...he weighed like 50 pounds. The whole story is a heaping pile of B.S!
@beLIEver2558 Please stop insulting the intelligence of everyone who's reading your comments. Jackson manipulated children into having sex with him. You're talking about the children as if they had the sexual history of an adult. The children were used. The kids wouldn't think of it as 'dangerous'. They didn't ' fight back' because he played it up as payback for his generosity. They saw it as weird but went along with it to avoid hurting their quirky ' friend's' feelings.
@beLIEver2558 Kids have been afraid to tell their parents that they were molested by people in authority ( priests, teachers, coaches, etc.). Do you think every kid who has been molested has told their parents? Jackson could have told the kid that they would both get in trouble if the kid told anyone about what happened. The guilt of keeping a secret would get to the kid, causing him to act differently ( becoming distant, tempermental ). The kid broke down and told his dad.
@beLIEver2558 Your ' 50 pounds' comment proves you're not fit to raise a dog let alone a kid. The onus wasn't on the kid to 'fight back'. The onus was on Jackson not to give the kid something to fight back about. You blame the child rather than the child molester?! Jackson was 6' and 150 pounds. What chance would an 11 year old boy have if he did ' fight back'? You're an imbecile.Your son would be better off if he was an orphan.
@westeightyone Regardless of what i say, and regardless of what you say, the parents still walked away with what they wanted in the first place, money. A man was broken, his pride ripped away. I guess i'm done this little charade, you are oblivious and clearly using your past experience with child molestation against the facts that Michael Joe Jackson is innocent. If this boy was so familiar with Mr.Jackson's genitals how come he couldn't identify them properly.
@westeightyone The previous kids that stayed over there said that Michael never showed any inappropriate behavior. The only people using him were his evil maniacal parents. If something that significant happened yes i expect him to memorize it or at least know the difference between circumcised and UN-circumcised.
@beLIEver2558 The previous kids may or may not have been molested by Jackson. That doesn't mean that Jackson didn't molest the kid who said that he did. It was unsettling and the kid endured what was happening to him. The kid may have been trying to think of other things while it was happening. You 'expect ' him to remember all the details in a situation that no sensible person would blame him for trying to blank out of his mind.
@westeightyone I'M a goddamn idiot!? but YOU'RE the one posting all these fucking comments that prove nothing. you just keep providing your unwanted opinion. How the fuck do you know he molested those kids in all seriousness? I have not seen one ounce of proof through your little bitchy rants.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with people who are proud of it"-Edith Sitwell
@westeightyone And YOU still proved nothing, by the way he did admit to plastic surgery. You're posting comments like you know every fucking thing, then when someone asks you to support your ignorant statements you reply by calling them an idiot.
@beLIEver2558 You're posting comments as if you know any fucking thing, and when someone asks you again and again why a 40 yr old man would continue to sleep alone in a bedroom with young boys AFTER he'd paid out millions to make rape charges go away, you ignore the question. You figure nobody notices that you didn't answer that question because you're an idiot.
@westeightyone Apparently the boy wanted to go over there no one forced him to. Michael Jackson's insurance paid it off, he had no control over the money. He wanted to escape his parents constantly arguing, so Michael said he could stay there his mother even stayed on the ranch...he was never alone. It's all lies. i would pay it off too, if that's what they wanted they could take it and get the hell out of my life and as simple as it sounds that's what they did. Parasites.
@beLIEver2558 The boy didn't want to go over there to have sex with Michael Jackson. You think Jackson didn't rape the boy because Jackson didn't drag the kid into the room kicking and screaming??? The parents could have been arguing over the mother's willingness to put the kid in harm's way.What father wouldn't have a problem with his wife giving their child permission to sleep alone with a 40 year old man they didn't know ? The mother didn't sleep in Jackson's bedroom, you moron
@westeightyone They were arguing long before he met Michael Jackson.He was having money problems and his screenwriting business wasn't taking off. Though she didn't sleep in the room she stayed there so she never saw anything suspicious during this whole time period. Surely if he was the deranged pedophile you and the media Make him out to be she would've witnessed something out of the ordinary.
@beLIEver2558 They argued about whatever whenever wherever. So what ? Jackson took advantage of a family that was falling apart. Pedophiles don't carry on out in the open. Jackson wouldn't do anything in front of the mother. He held off until he was alone with the boy behind the closed door of his security alarmed soundproofed bedroom. The mother stayed in another room where she couldn't see or hear what was going on between Jackson and her son, you dope.
@westeightyone But if he was this psychotic pedophile lurking for innocent boys, he wouldn't care where or when he did it because he would just pay them off anyway, right? because as you said "pedophile priest have been acquitted" .
@beLIEver2558 I'd ask you if you're fucking crazy if it wasn't so obvious. Pedophiles don't drool in front of parents, bonehead. Do you picture Jackson cutting a deal with the parents BEFORE he molested the kid ???? You might be open to selling your kid off to a child molester, but most parents would kick Jackson's ass up to his shoulder blades if he approached them with an offer like that.
@westeightyone Just give me your proof, no opinion don't bias it i want cold hard facts...prove me wrong. Prove to me that i am an imbecile, moron, idiot & insane for believing Michael Jackson's innocence.
@beLIEver2558 I don't have videotaped evidence that you could run over and over again and freeze frame .You'd probably lick your computer screen if I did present you with such evidence. You are an imbecile, moron, idiot and insane because you won't even consider the possibility that Jackson is guilty. All you do is come up with lame ass excuses that can be ripped apart like toilet paper.Blaming everybody but Jackson doesn't prove the King of Plop's innocence, dolt.
@westeightyone You think i haven't doubted his innocence!? Of course i did... I've looked over documents and transcripts at all hours of the night, and I've came with my personal conclusion that he is innocent. No evidence strong enough has been presented to prove otherwise. Anybody can thesaurus: idiot btw.
@beLIEver2558 You signed your comment 'dunce'? I agree with your assessment of yourself.Anybody can thesaurus 'idiot' but I didn't have to consult a thesaurus.Judging by your comments it wouldn't surprise anyone if many people have called you what I've called you.You should be used to it by now. You looked over documents and transcripts at all hours of the night? I should feel sorry for you but it's too hard not to laugh at you, you dope. Ho ho ho.
@westeightyone You are so pathetic, your ignorance is appalling. Insulting people like you have any right. You call people idiotic for believing in Michael Jackson's innocence but when given the floor to actually support your assumptions you continue to insult them. Its quite childish. You are a sad excuse for a person. You clueless bigot.
@beLIEver2558 Ha ha had Took some time out from poring over documents pertaining to dead pedophiles did you? You are idiotic. I've been supporting my assumptions and mopping up the floor with you right from the get go. You missed your chance to offer your kid to Jackson. Get over it. I'm sure you'll find some other way to endanger the poor boy before the authorities remove him from your home.
@westeightyone The only thing you've been mopping up i your shitty ass excuses. i've really looked forward to seeing what you had to say, it gave me a good laugh. You are so oblivious, it should be illegal, and the people giving you that thumbs up are too. I wouldn't be surprised if you made 2-3 accounts, trollface. Justice has been done[INNOCENT], you can keep your mask on and angrily yet humorously type behind your screen. This was fun. Still an insignificant fuck. :)
@beLIEver2558 That's funny, I, like everybody else who's read any of your comments, never looked forward to anything that you had to say.You exposed yourself as an unfit parent when you wrote that you'd have no reservations about allowing your son to sleep with a 40 year old man who you didn't know because you liked the way that he sang and danced. I notice you're signing off as ' insignifigant fuck' now.It's not as catchy as 'dunce' but it is accurate, you insignifigant fuck.:}.
@beLIEver2558 Regardless of what you say,Jackson continued to sleep alone in his bedroom with young boys AFTER he'd been charged with child molestation. Nothing short of video taped evidence would convince you.I've never been molested because my parents wouldn't have let a 40 year old man sleep with me. Your kid isn't lucky enough to have parents like mine.Did you expect the kid to memorize what Jackson's johnson looked like, given the circumstances? Put your son up for adoption.
What's interesting , bubbah, is that there is stigma attached to a heterosexual boy having sex with a homosexual man. The young boy grows older and he sees himself as damaged goods in the eyes of society. It's hardly surprising that such a boy would retract any statements suggesting that he was a 'queer' / a 'faggot' / a 'cocksucker' / mj's boy toy.
Retracting, reversing, lying now in an attempt to rescue himself from the indiginities of telling the truth back then....it all amounts to the same thing.
Why would the victim risk losing the millions that he got from Jackson back then by coming forward and saying that he 'lied' while Jackson was still alive? M.J's death removes the possibility of a lawsuit. The victim can lie now about telling the truth back then without worrying about losing the hush money.
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Oh, so it's semantics now!
The fact is that he admitted to lying. The fact is that he failed to identify MJ's penis correctly. The fact is that on the second charge years later, MJ was 100% acquitted.
All facts point towards the fact that MJ was innocent.
And why would the non-victim lie about lying back then, exactly? It doesn't make sense.
You are just desperate to smear Jackson with illogical nonsense.
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westeightyone: No, you are the one spouting illogical nonsense, sadly.
An alleged "victim" has come forward and admitted that he lied because his father forced him.
This is a simple fact which you wish could go away.
You also wish the fact that the second case was won 100% by MJ could go away.
But you can't.
Your irrational nonsense is a testament to your obsession with having sex with young boys. Why are you obsessing over it, fantasizing about MJ doing it?
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westeightyone: Yes, you are clearly a very hateful and obsessive individual. You cannot argue with facts, so you try to change the subject and attack people instead.
I used 'bubbah' in all of those posts because of the way Youtube is set up, Jazzy.
Other messages from other people can be posted In the time that it takes me to write a reply to Bubbah. I want to make it clear that I am replying to a bubbah comment and not somebody else's.
I'm also making fun of a person who would expect to be taken seriously while he uses a goofy name like 'bubbah'.
There's a guy defending Whacko Jacko's 'honor' on another Youtube video who calls himself Buttload11. Ha ha
He's living in a different town under a different name trying to make a new life for himself.
Why would he lie today about what he said about M.J. molesting him back then?
He might lie because he's worried about being rejected by his current friends ( he wouldn't want them to think that he had it in him to be a 'queer' ).
What does he stand to gain by continuing to tell the truth about M.J.? Nothing. M.J.s dead.
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westeightyone: The second accuser and his family was caught lying during the trial. And MJ was acquitted on all charges. The accusers basically contradicted themselves and were caught lying.
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The kid never correctly identified the look of MJ's penis.
MJ settled the case because he was on the verge of suicide and just wanted to move on. It was that charge which got him started on drugs apparently.
I'm not assuming anything. You are assuming that MJ was guilty despite the 100% acquittal. The facts of the case showed that the accusers put forth self-contradictory claims, were motivated by greed, lied, etc.
Sorry to have to break it to you, but you are coming across as a bigot. You clearly have no rational arguments, so you try to get away from the fact that Jackson was acquitted on all accounts by making up stories and attacking people who expose your fallacies.
First personal attacks, then straw men, then groundless speculation. No wonder bubbah completely crushed your puny attempts at debating the topic with him!
There is no "absolute proof", just facts, and all facts point towards Jackson being innocent.
And in civiliced societies, you are innocent until proven guilty.
And lastly, the second boy contradicted himself and his parents, the parents were known for using their kids for shoplifting, etc. They lied, lied, lied.
Yet another comment where bubbah points out that "the kid never correctly identified the look of MJ's penis" has been censored. Why?
He also explains why Jackson settlede the case.
Also, you are innocent until proven guilty. Unless you are westeightyone, in which case you are guilty as heck as soon as you are accused of something.
westeightyone and people who censor bubbah's comments basically want to throw the foundation of the court system out the window!
Yet another comment where bubbah points out that "the kid never correctly identified the look of MJ's penis" has been censored. Why?
He also explains why Jackson settlede the case.
Also, you are innocent until proven guilty. Unless you are westeightyone, in which case you are guilty as heck as soon as you are accused of something.
westeightyone and people who censor bubbah's comments basically want to throw the foundation of the court system out the window!
The censored comment by bubbah here points out the fact that the descriptions of Jackson's penis from the kids who accused him of molestation did in fact not match.
Why are factual comments like that censored? Mind boggling.
@caine13 I dont get it, what was so funny about that? Quite rude if you ask me. "HAHA Micheal Died On My Prom... Then The Last Prom Song Was A Micheal Jackson Song!! HAHAHA I Was Laughing So Hard... Omg."
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you know i cant get over some of you guysz rude responses. micheal was the first to do everything. he wasz thw one to open doors for not only black people, but people world wide. the dance moves that you see today is simply based off of his. i cant understand why people are so cruel, no one is saying to love the guy, but give him his respect! dame. we are the ones who killed him.
@bmichaelob nice one domeded got told and btw dont you dare call michael jackson a fag cause hes way better than you you could ever be so your the fag
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ok wow someone dies everyday the reson this is such a big deal is because most of us grew up watching m.j on the news or listining to his music.excuse me for not knowing everying child living in africa! like seriouly listen to what you just sed tahts so patetic.M.J was important to alot of people so stop trying to make everyone feel guilty for not knowing every single person in the flipping world that dies.R.I.P M.J <33
Oh, my mom and my brother. It freaked me out because when I got home, I made this video, there was nobody home, and I didn't know they were going to pop in like that.
Some where in Africa there a little boy who dead June 25 09 but never mind him are any other person who dead that day lets all marn the death of a child molester just because he was famous
this comment is for everyone who dead that day who's name isn't Micheal Jackson R.I.P to you all even if MJ fans don't care about you I do god bless you all.
Seriously, if I made a video for every death that occurred I would have hundreds of videos a day. I do feel bad for the child that died, but honestly, it's not earth shattering news. If anyone who wasn't as well known to the world as MJ was, only a handful of people would actually care. My father died 2/9/09 and you don't see me complaining that nobody uploaded videos commemorating his death that day. So just be respectful.
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SamkaveliTrey4ever: Jackson was never convicted of child molestation. The kid from the first case has later admitted that he lied, and in the second case he was 100% acquitted.
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Wow finally a true video. Someone whose not like omfg im SO fucking sad. Someone whose saying something about his epic music that changed the world and still is. Not some OMFG IM SO SAD OMFGGG. Thanks man <3
I tried, I wasn't going to be bawling, because honestly, yeah his music was good and creative, but I was never one to be like... I wanna see him live! I wanna be at the concerts! No, I just simply am showing my respect for him and all that he did. The same as I would for anyone, I would for Farrah, but I didn't see her as an influence on me, although Peace be with her and her family, that was a very sad death as well.
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westeightyone 1 month ago
I didnt expect that voice
Konphetty 1 month ago
MGay was such a faggot pedo he deserve to die .
TheCatdetective 5 months ago
@TheCatdetective i feel bad for your mother.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 I feel bad for mgay's mom to be the only woman that gave birth to a twightlight rapist like mgay .
TheCatdetective 1 month ago
@TheCatdetective you feel so clever dont you replacing the "J" with a "G" so it can be gay instead of jay. Whooaa very clever. (-_- ) pfft
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
Buttsecks much?
9130Resto 7 months ago
FUCK HIM! BURN IN HELL PEDOPHILE!
mikelang15 1 year ago
thank you:) nice video luv you peter pan <3
musicluvme842 1 year ago
what a gay poofy voice!!
13ilovejasonorange13 1 year ago
My friend thought he already was dead lol rip mj
timesplitter2512 2 years ago
So sad :'(
i love mj i grew up with his music & dance
KING OF MUSIC!
xxleandraxx1 2 years ago
shut up i cant here the tv lol jk
jacobsbuddie4ever 2 years ago
I am sorry for asking but you are gay arn't you
gamerproHQ 2 years ago
no i'm not and thanks for asking politely. i just have a high voice.
bmichaelob 2 years ago
@gamerproHQ AND WHO CARES IF BMICHAELOB IS GAY? WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? GAMERPROHQ, YOU ARE A HOMOPHOB AND YOU REALLY NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!
MJandDMB4Life 1 year ago
MICHAEL IS INNOCENT!!!
Luckycharms2007 2 years ago
A hero is gone.
What a tragic loss for many of us, for the whole world.
MJ was one of a kind, no one will take his place.. no one. We miss him.
pam466 2 years ago
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pam466 2 years ago
thank u for posting this. beautifully said
OctoberBaby543 2 years ago
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Silly black faggot!
BRUTUALTRUTH 2 years ago
the reason why farrah fawcett didnt get enough "tv time".
1) not everyone knows who she is.
2) not many people survive cancer and honestly many people knew she was gonna die
3) Michael is the man.
jerseygirl049 2 years ago
True. Sad, but True.
projectTEEN123 2 years ago
thank you for this video! you admitted you weren't a huge fan of mj but you didn't make fun of him! thank you thank you thank you! I LOVE YOU MJ!
berrychristian 2 years ago
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Oh HAVE A CRY! - someone famous dies and all of a sudden were all emotional wrecks! People get way to attached to these things and Americans are the worst of all - I mean seriously there is a world of long haired pretty things with pointy chest bits and inverted areas called women that you all need to experience!
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some people are just ignorant and pathetic, they have no idea what they're talking about. they're miserable and feel they must bring others down to their despicable level. it kinda makes you wonder what kind of horrible life they live to want to do such things. it doesn't matter, let them wallow in their hate and "tough" words to someone who is dead and didn't do anything to them. (some people on youtube are retarded)
Michelle11391 2 years ago
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Pathetic indeed. Apparently all these pedophiles who are desperately hoping for MJ to be like them are voting down comments by those who defend facts and rational thought, and point out that there's no evidnce that MJ is guilty of being molesters (unlike all these people voting down people who are not pedophiles like them).
bubbah 2 years ago
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Wow, it's pretty pathetic to see all of bubbah's comments being censored/rated down because his arguments are rational and factual, and expose clowns like westeightyone.
tingtangs 2 years ago
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some of you people really are pathetic excuses for human beings. MJ is dead, leave it alone already. show some respect and stop being so hateful. R.I.P Michael 1958-2009
Michelle11391 2 years ago
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Look at how the pedophiles are voting your comment down just because they are desperately hoping for MJ to be like them.
People like westeightyone want to justify being pedophiles, so they use irrational and factually wrong arguments to "prove" that MJ is like them. Quite sad, really.
bubbah 2 years ago
Let me get this straight.
Michael Jackson was 'a wonderful talented individual' because he didn't bone YOU up the ass.
You're okay with him behaving inappropriately because he didn't bone YOU up the ass.
He gets a pass on inviting young boys to sleep with a 40 year old man because he could sing and dance and he didn't bone YOU up the ass.
Yeah. Uh huh. Riiiiiight.
Pull your head out of your ass, bmichaelob.
westeightyone 2 years ago 7
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Have SDR!!!!!!!!!!!!
JoycelynKeys 2 years ago
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That's interesting, westeightyone, because MJ was never convicted of anything. In fact, he was thoroughly acquitted in the second case, and the kid from the first case admitted after Jackson's death that it was just a lie.
bubbah 2 years ago
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westeightyone 2 years ago 4
What's interesting, bubbah, is that M.J. allowed himself to be put in a position to be charged with molesting another kid AFTER everything he'd gone through with that first kid.
Why would MJ do that ? Because he's a predator. He was arrogant and horny enough to surrender his power of reason to his darkest desire.
westeightyone 2 years ago 10
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MJ put himself in a position to be charged again because he was naive and was used to being around kids. Your argument is basically "he was around kids, therefore predator". You are indeed a pathetic moron.
bubbah 2 years ago
Why was M.J. 'used to being around kids'?
Because he used kids, bubba, the same way a few once trusted Catholic priests used altar boys.
Talk about naive, Bubba.
How long have you been a member of NAMBLA?
westeightyone 2 years ago 10
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westeightyone: He was used to being around kids because he never had a childhood and tried to catch up, and he thought kids were more honest and pleasant than most adults.
Seriously, you would have known this if you had educated yourself before spouting nonsense.
bubbah 2 years ago
bubbah:
seriously, you're coming off like a charter member of N.A.M.B.L.A. ( North American
Man / Boy Love Association ).
The video on your channel about you NOT being anti-pedophillia is disturbingly creepy.
Your statement in the 'not anti-pedophillia' video suggesting that 'a pedophile can't help being a pedophile any more than a black person can help being a black person' says it all. You sound like you'd be okay with M.J. molesting little boys if it had been proven in court. You're sick.
westeightyone 2 years ago 8
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westeightyone: Thanks for proving my point. You can't argue with the facts, so you try religiously to ignore the facts and change the topic.
When the facts don't match, attack!
bubbah 2 years ago
I have been presenting the facts, bubbah.
The fact that you refuse to acknowledge the facts says everything that needs to be said about you.
The topic that you and I have been discussing is whether or not Michael Jackson was guilty of child molestation.
The fact that YOU can compare pedophillia to 'being black' on one of the videos on your channel is relevant to the discussion at hand.
You're a sick twisted individual and your comments here need to be put in context.
westeightyone 2 years ago 7
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westeightyone: You have not ben presenting facts. You have presented nothing but groundless assertions and factual errors.
You are unable to answer the actual facts of the matter, so you try to change the subject.
The fact that both skin color and sexual orientation (including homosexuality) are involuntary traits is not really relevant here, but you are so desperate to find another child molester like yourself that you will do anything to find a friend in crime.
bubbah 2 years ago
Everybody reading bubbah's idiotic statements in this comment section should go to his channel and watch his ' Not anti-pedophillia' video.
Put bubbah's comments here in their proper context.
You'll hear bubbah's own words there and you'll see where his mindset is in his comments here.
Bubba's own words are the most condemning evidence against him.
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@westeightyone
Wow, you just got owned in the debate. Basing your arguments on personal emotions, bigotry and speculation rather than facts usually doesn't work very well!
And reacting by attacking the guy who crushed you just makes you look rather sad.
tingtangs 2 years ago
@tingtangs
You don't have a problem with an effeminate forty year old man sleeping alone in a bedroom with an eleven year old boy that he isn't related to.
You don't find anything wrong with that same
'man' inviting other little boys to sleep alone with him in the same bedroom AFTER he'd paid millions to a little boy to avoid going on trial for child molestation.
You're prepared to cut a famous celebrity slack that you wouldn't if he was a 'nobody'.
Here's hoping you don't have kids.
westeightyone 2 years ago 23
You don't find it odd, that the mothers are knowing that they are sending there kids to get hurt for money... The mothers want this to happen to their kids, which is sick and twisted. The mothers are going to bun in hell.... I don't believe that he did it....
DimplesRsexy23 2 years ago
You're right, Dimples.
Any mother or father who would allow their kid to spend the night alone with a person who paid out millions of dollars to a young boy to avoid prosecution for child molestation is an unfit parent. Any mother or father who would do that is either 1. / incredibly stupid or 2. / using their kid as bait to extort money.
Q; Why would Jackson continue to allow himself to be put in such a position?
A : He was ruled by his desire to the extent of risking all he had.
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@westeightyone
# He was ruled by his desire to the extent
# of risking all he had.
This is nothing but a groundless assertion. Fact is, he had hundreds if not thousands of kids visiting him.
And yet there are only two cases, and in both of them the claims by the kids and their parents were self-contradictory, they put forth factual errors (like a wrong description of his genitals).
For your hypothesis to hold any water there must be more than speculation based on your own ignorance.
tingtangs 2 years ago
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@DimplesRsexy23
Of course they happily sent their children there. They knew that they were perfectly safe. In fact, Jackson was hardly ever alone with the kids (never alone with the first kid who accused him, as a matter of fact). There were always other adults around.
The two claims of sexual abuse were nothing but poorly planned attempts at extorting money from Jackson.
They were motivated by greed. Apparently westeightyone is able to recognize sexual drive, but not greed for money.
tingtangs 2 years ago
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@westeightyone
Jackson was not a normal 40 year old man. Psychologists basically described him as being a child on the inside. He never had a childhood. He loved children (in a non-sexual way), and loved having them around.
Also, it was the kids who asked if they could sleep in his room.
And besides, the family of the first kid actually stated that the kid never was alone with Jackson!
All you have is pure speculation based on a complete lack of understanding of the human psyche.
tingtangs 2 years ago
@westeightyone Apparently you don't know what the hell you are talking about! HE didn't settle his insurance and financial advisers did, he had no control over the money. That is EXACTLY whats wrong with the people today, letting a child stay with you is an act of pedophilia. He SHARED his bed and SLEPT in a sleeping bag. WHAT you don't understand is his bedroom is the size of your house. YOU ignorant pathetic ASS do a little research before you go typing away!
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 Yeah. Uh huh. He ' slept' in a sleeping bag. His bedroom could be the size of a football field but that doesn't mean that he ' slept' on the opposite side of the room. He said that he ' slept ' in a sleeping bag when he shared his bed with children. Why would he lie about something like that, you clueless imbecile? Yeah. Uh huh. So much for your ' research' , chump.
westeightyone 1 month ago 3
@westeightyone HE ADMITTED THAT HIS FATHER TOLD HIM TO LIE! FOR MONEY!
so your telling me if your child was molested by this 'sick twisted pedophile' you'd just say "OH yeah i'll take the money forget about my child being emotionally and physically scarred forever" a REAL parent wouldnt say that they had a motive: MONEY...
your brain dead insignificant fuck. THAT was not research by the way that was YOUR opinion, asstard.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 Type a little louder, shmuck.I'm telling you (not that you have brains enough to listen) that the father didn't want to take the chance that Jackson would escape without punishment.Pedophile priests have been acquitted.The kid didn't go to a doctor immediately after he was molested.There wasn't a rape kit involved, dullard.The father didn't want his kid to suffer through the trauma of a trial.You haven't done research, goof. Stop talking as if you were there.
westeightyone 1 month ago 3
@westeightyone "He didn't want his kid suffer through the trauma of the trail" but yet he did it anyway ??? And yes throwing him a couple of dollars for a new car or house or whatever the hell he bought was "Punishment".HE SETTLED! that is not punishment enough for me. Why didn't they go to the POLICE first instead of a lawyer? that he .“If I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I will get everything I want and he will be destroyed forever…” - Evan Chandler
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 The trauma of an extended trial that could end up with a dismissal. It's not unusual for victims to settle outside of court to avoid the uncertainty of the final verdict. Why did Jackson pay the settlement? The public was already aware of the charges against Jackson. As for the quote you provided, it sounds like it was about a father who was out to destroy the man who molested his son. You can't blame a father for wanting to do that.
westeightyone 1 month ago
@westeightyone no you're right i can't, but when he is more worried about ruining someone's career than the ensuring the welfare of his child that is another story.Michael Jackson didn't pay the settlement his insurance did he didn't even want them to go through with it they went against his jurisdiction. Evan was jealous he thought June was having an affair with this rich pop singer so he came at him the best way he knew how, evil manipulative deception and lying.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 The father didn't send his kid to Michael Jackson to be raped. Not getting money from Michael Jackson after his kid had been raped would not ensure the welfare of his child. His son wasn't in any danger of being raped by Michael Jackson again. Do you have a problem with parents getting money from the Catholic church when their kid have been raped by a priest ? There's no certainty of justice being done and the pervert going to jail. Evan was jealous ?!? You're insane.
westeightyone 1 month ago 4
@westeightyone How wasn't he in any danger, they settled so now this "pedophile" is still walking the streets consequence free. If that was my son (thank the fucking lord its not) and he was saying he had been raped, NO amount of money could make up for the innocence he took away from my son..i want that sick bastard in prison getting assfucked my a man named Bullet. BUT this wasn't the case they took the money and ran, they began to realize people were smelling his bullshit so he
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@beLIEver2558 If the pedophile had any brains left ( the plastic surgeons must have slipped and performed a lobotomy while they were cutting up his face ) he would have stopped having children sleep alone with him in his bedroom. The charges outed him as a pedophile. The parents who continued to let their kids sleep in a bedroom with Michael Jackson were unfit parents. Would you have allowed your son to stay in a bedroom alone with Jackson after the charges against him came to light?
westeightyone 1 month ago
@westeightyone took it and left. After the case he demanded more money for his own record company or some bullshit "EVANstory" but it was over he rode the money train and it was his last stop. June didn't even want to testify against Michael and when it came down to it she said she had not seen any inappropriate behavior between Jordan and Michael. SOOO now the father is they ONLY person who witnessed sexual molestation of his son or at least the only one who believes him.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 June didn't ' believe' her son publicly. That doesn't mean that she didn't believe him privately. She may have been intimidated by the thought of going up against Jackson's high-priced Legal Dream Team. She may have been concerned that she would be portrayed as an unfit mother to the public at large. She allowed her son to sleep alone in a bedroom with a 40 yr old man she didn't know.That doesn't exactly make her ' mother of the year '.
westeightyone 1 month ago 3
@westeightyone A mother should defend her child no matter WHAT , if the public believes she's a unfit mother FUCK THEM she is fighting for her child's innocence. He didn't stop letting children in his house because he loved them, he knew who he was and that he was NOT a child molester, if someone tells you, you are ugly would you spend the rest of your life in the shadows crying? NO! You don't givafuck because you know who you are!
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westeightyone 1 month ago
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@beLIEver2558 Did I say that a mother shouldn't defend her child ? Fuck her for allowing her son to stay overnight in a bedroom alone with a 40 year old man who she didn't know.Jackson didn' t think he was doing anything wrong when he molested her son. He ' loved' boys in the same way that a member of NAMBLA would. He didn't stop taking children into his bedroom because unfit parents like yourself foolishly gave him the benefit of the doubt.
westeightyone 1 month ago 3
@westeightyone The parents that let their child stay there after the charges and still accused him a child molestation are idiotic scumbags who saw that people made money off of Michael's Innocence, freedom and kindness. TBH If i just met a man and he was accused of sexual molestation of a minor HELL NO i wouldn't let my child sleep with them but i think Michael is and always has been innocent so therefore i would. I trust him enough.
Money is damn near poison.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 It's a lucky thing for your son that you never got to meet Michael Jackson. Your kid would have been getting the Jackson low Five in no time.
westeightyone 1 month ago 4
@westeightyone So you have no doubt in your mind that Michael Jackson is a child molester, that the parents were really fighting for their child and they were not money hungry dogs and scam artist. Sending their kids into Macy's to shoplift. Lying continuously through the whole trial. Please don't insult me or my parenting skills. If the kid(s) really thought they were in danger, why didn't they just fightback...he weighed like 50 pounds. The whole story is a heaping pile of B.S!
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 Please stop insulting the intelligence of everyone who's reading your comments. Jackson manipulated children into having sex with him. You're talking about the children as if they had the sexual history of an adult. The children were used. The kids wouldn't think of it as 'dangerous'. They didn't ' fight back' because he played it up as payback for his generosity. They saw it as weird but went along with it to avoid hurting their quirky ' friend's' feelings.
westeightyone 1 month ago 4
@beLIEver2558 Kids have been afraid to tell their parents that they were molested by people in authority ( priests, teachers, coaches, etc.). Do you think every kid who has been molested has told their parents? Jackson could have told the kid that they would both get in trouble if the kid told anyone about what happened. The guilt of keeping a secret would get to the kid, causing him to act differently ( becoming distant, tempermental ). The kid broke down and told his dad.
westeightyone 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 Your ' 50 pounds' comment proves you're not fit to raise a dog let alone a kid. The onus wasn't on the kid to 'fight back'. The onus was on Jackson not to give the kid something to fight back about. You blame the child rather than the child molester?! Jackson was 6' and 150 pounds. What chance would an 11 year old boy have if he did ' fight back'? You're an imbecile.Your son would be better off if he was an orphan.
westeightyone 1 month ago 5
@westeightyone Regardless of what i say, and regardless of what you say, the parents still walked away with what they wanted in the first place, money. A man was broken, his pride ripped away. I guess i'm done this little charade, you are oblivious and clearly using your past experience with child molestation against the facts that Michael Joe Jackson is innocent. If this boy was so familiar with Mr.Jackson's genitals how come he couldn't identify them properly.
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westeightyone 1 month ago
@westeightyone The previous kids that stayed over there said that Michael never showed any inappropriate behavior. The only people using him were his evil maniacal parents. If something that significant happened yes i expect him to memorize it or at least know the difference between circumcised and UN-circumcised.
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westeightyone 1 month ago
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@beLIEver2558 The previous kids may or may not have been molested by Jackson. That doesn't mean that Jackson didn't molest the kid who said that he did. It was unsettling and the kid endured what was happening to him. The kid may have been trying to think of other things while it was happening. You 'expect ' him to remember all the details in a situation that no sensible person would blame him for trying to blank out of his mind.
You're a goddamned idiot.
westeightyone 1 month ago 2
@westeightyone I'M a goddamn idiot!? but YOU'RE the one posting all these fucking comments that prove nothing. you just keep providing your unwanted opinion. How the fuck do you know he molested those kids in all seriousness? I have not seen one ounce of proof through your little bitchy rants.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with people who are proud of it"-Edith Sitwell
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@beLIEver2558 Yep. YOU'RE a goddamn idiot.
westeightyone 1 month ago 5
@westeightyone And YOU still proved nothing, by the way he did admit to plastic surgery. You're posting comments like you know every fucking thing, then when someone asks you to support your ignorant statements you reply by calling them an idiot.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 You're posting comments as if you know any fucking thing, and when someone asks you again and again why a 40 yr old man would continue to sleep alone in a bedroom with young boys AFTER he'd paid out millions to make rape charges go away, you ignore the question. You figure nobody notices that you didn't answer that question because you're an idiot.
westeightyone 1 month ago 3
@westeightyone Apparently the boy wanted to go over there no one forced him to. Michael Jackson's insurance paid it off, he had no control over the money. He wanted to escape his parents constantly arguing, so Michael said he could stay there his mother even stayed on the ranch...he was never alone. It's all lies. i would pay it off too, if that's what they wanted they could take it and get the hell out of my life and as simple as it sounds that's what they did. Parasites.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 The boy didn't want to go over there to have sex with Michael Jackson. You think Jackson didn't rape the boy because Jackson didn't drag the kid into the room kicking and screaming??? The parents could have been arguing over the mother's willingness to put the kid in harm's way.What father wouldn't have a problem with his wife giving their child permission to sleep alone with a 40 year old man they didn't know ? The mother didn't sleep in Jackson's bedroom, you moron
westeightyone 1 month ago 5
@westeightyone They were arguing long before he met Michael Jackson.He was having money problems and his screenwriting business wasn't taking off. Though she didn't sleep in the room she stayed there so she never saw anything suspicious during this whole time period. Surely if he was the deranged pedophile you and the media Make him out to be she would've witnessed something out of the ordinary.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 They argued about whatever whenever wherever. So what ? Jackson took advantage of a family that was falling apart. Pedophiles don't carry on out in the open. Jackson wouldn't do anything in front of the mother. He held off until he was alone with the boy behind the closed door of his security alarmed soundproofed bedroom. The mother stayed in another room where she couldn't see or hear what was going on between Jackson and her son, you dope.
westeightyone 1 month ago 4
@westeightyone But if he was this psychotic pedophile lurking for innocent boys, he wouldn't care where or when he did it because he would just pay them off anyway, right? because as you said "pedophile priest have been acquitted" .
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 I'd ask you if you're fucking crazy if it wasn't so obvious. Pedophiles don't drool in front of parents, bonehead. Do you picture Jackson cutting a deal with the parents BEFORE he molested the kid ???? You might be open to selling your kid off to a child molester, but most parents would kick Jackson's ass up to his shoulder blades if he approached them with an offer like that.
westeightyone 1 month ago 2
@westeightyone Just give me your proof, no opinion don't bias it i want cold hard facts...prove me wrong. Prove to me that i am an imbecile, moron, idiot & insane for believing Michael Jackson's innocence.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 I don't have videotaped evidence that you could run over and over again and freeze frame .You'd probably lick your computer screen if I did present you with such evidence. You are an imbecile, moron, idiot and insane because you won't even consider the possibility that Jackson is guilty. All you do is come up with lame ass excuses that can be ripped apart like toilet paper.Blaming everybody but Jackson doesn't prove the King of Plop's innocence, dolt.
westeightyone 1 month ago
@westeightyone You think i haven't doubted his innocence!? Of course i did... I've looked over documents and transcripts at all hours of the night, and I've came with my personal conclusion that he is innocent. No evidence strong enough has been presented to prove otherwise. Anybody can thesaurus: idiot btw.
dunce.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 You signed your comment 'dunce'? I agree with your assessment of yourself.Anybody can thesaurus 'idiot' but I didn't have to consult a thesaurus.Judging by your comments it wouldn't surprise anyone if many people have called you what I've called you.You should be used to it by now. You looked over documents and transcripts at all hours of the night? I should feel sorry for you but it's too hard not to laugh at you, you dope. Ho ho ho.
westeightyone 1 month ago 3
@westeightyone You are so pathetic, your ignorance is appalling. Insulting people like you have any right. You call people idiotic for believing in Michael Jackson's innocence but when given the floor to actually support your assumptions you continue to insult them. Its quite childish. You are a sad excuse for a person. You clueless bigot.
beLIEver2558 1 month ago
@beLIEver2558 Ha ha had Took some time out from poring over documents pertaining to dead pedophiles did you? You are idiotic. I've been supporting my assumptions and mopping up the floor with you right from the get go. You missed your chance to offer your kid to Jackson. Get over it. I'm sure you'll find some other way to endanger the poor boy before the authorities remove him from your home.
westeightyone 1 month ago 2
@westeightyone The only thing you've been mopping up i your shitty ass excuses. i've really looked forward to seeing what you had to say, it gave me a good laugh. You are so oblivious, it should be illegal, and the people giving you that thumbs up are too. I wouldn't be surprised if you made 2-3 accounts, trollface. Justice has been done[INNOCENT], you can keep your mask on and angrily yet humorously type behind your screen. This was fun. Still an insignificant fuck. :)
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westeightyone 4 weeks ago
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@beLIEver2558 That's funny, I, like everybody else who's read any of your comments, never looked forward to anything that you had to say.You exposed yourself as an unfit parent when you wrote that you'd have no reservations about allowing your son to sleep with a 40 year old man who you didn't know because you liked the way that he sang and danced. I notice you're signing off as ' insignifigant fuck' now.It's not as catchy as 'dunce' but it is accurate, you insignifigant fuck.:}.
westeightyone 4 weeks ago
@westeightyone ♥
beLIEver2558 4 weeks ago
@beLIEver2558 /watch?v=MrhmZ1K3pvU&feature=related
westeightyone 3 weeks ago
@westeightyone /watch?v=RS8TefYdLdY
lol
beLIEver2558 3 weeks ago
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@beLIEver2558 Regardless of what you say,Jackson continued to sleep alone in his bedroom with young boys AFTER he'd been charged with child molestation. Nothing short of video taped evidence would convince you.I've never been molested because my parents wouldn't have let a 40 year old man sleep with me. Your kid isn't lucky enough to have parents like mine.Did you expect the kid to memorize what Jackson's johnson looked like, given the circumstances? Put your son up for adoption.
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theginyuforce 2 years ago
What's interesting , bubbah, is that there is stigma attached to a heterosexual boy having sex with a homosexual man. The young boy grows older and he sees himself as damaged goods in the eyes of society. It's hardly surprising that such a boy would retract any statements suggesting that he was a 'queer' / a 'faggot' / a 'cocksucker' / mj's boy toy.
westeightyone 2 years ago 8
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The "boy" didn't retract anything. He is now a man, and only admitted to lying now, after MJ died.
bubbah 2 years ago
semantics, Bubbah.
Retracting, reversing, lying now in an attempt to rescue himself from the indiginities of telling the truth back then....it all amounts to the same thing.
Why would the victim risk losing the millions that he got from Jackson back then by coming forward and saying that he 'lied' while Jackson was still alive? M.J's death removes the possibility of a lawsuit. The victim can lie now about telling the truth back then without worrying about losing the hush money.
westeightyone 2 years ago 6
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Oh, so it's semantics now!
The fact is that he admitted to lying. The fact is that he failed to identify MJ's penis correctly. The fact is that on the second charge years later, MJ was 100% acquitted.
All facts point towards the fact that MJ was innocent.
And why would the non-victim lie about lying back then, exactly? It doesn't make sense.
You are just desperate to smear Jackson with illogical nonsense.
bubbah 2 years ago
Jackson smeared himself with illogical nonsense, bubbah. I can't tell you what he smeared his young victims with.
It doesn't make sense to YOU that M.J's victim would come forward after MJ's death.
It doesn't make sense to YOU that the victim wouldn't want to run the risk of being sued out of the money that M.J paid him to make the case go away.
It doesn't make sense to YOU that the victim would not want to go through the trauma of a trial.
You don't have any sense, bubba.
westeightyone 2 years ago 9
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westeightyone: No, you are the one spouting illogical nonsense, sadly.
An alleged "victim" has come forward and admitted that he lied because his father forced him.
This is a simple fact which you wish could go away.
You also wish the fact that the second case was won 100% by MJ could go away.
But you can't.
Your irrational nonsense is a testament to your obsession with having sex with young boys. Why are you obsessing over it, fantasizing about MJ doing it?
bubbah 2 years ago
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Also, remember that the first kid described MJ's genitals, but it didn't match! Oops.
bubbah 2 years ago
Using your perverted logic, bubbah, my disgust over O.J. getting away with the murder of his wife
is a testament to my obsession with murdering Nicole Simpson.
You're every bit as fucked up as Michael Jackson, bubbah. Small wonder you would fight so hard for his 'honor'.
You identify personally with him.
westeightyone 2 years ago 10
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westeightyone: Yes, you are clearly a very hateful and obsessive individual. You cannot argue with facts, so you try to change the subject and attack people instead.
The markings of a true irrational fool.
bubbah 2 years ago
Coming from a sick twisted individual like you,Bubbah, I'll take that as the highest form of compliment.
westeightyone 2 years ago 8
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westeightyone: I am not surprised that an irrational, ignorant fool loves being just that.
bubbah 2 years ago
right back at ya, bubbah, you freak.
westeightyone 2 years ago 8
wats with the bubbah? kinda annoying and hard to take you seriously...sorry
JazzyLeZoo 2 years ago
I used 'bubbah' in all of those posts because of the way Youtube is set up, Jazzy.
Other messages from other people can be posted In the time that it takes me to write a reply to Bubbah. I want to make it clear that I am replying to a bubbah comment and not somebody else's.
I'm also making fun of a person who would expect to be taken seriously while he uses a goofy name like 'bubbah'.
There's a guy defending Whacko Jacko's 'honor' on another Youtube video who calls himself Buttload11. Ha ha
westeightyone 2 years ago 5
i apologise,
sorry just cant stand the word "bubba"
JazzyLeZoo 2 years ago 2
The 2nd 'accuser' is 19 years of age now.
He's living in a different town under a different name trying to make a new life for himself.
Why would he lie today about what he said about M.J. molesting him back then?
He might lie because he's worried about being rejected by his current friends ( he wouldn't want them to think that he had it in him to be a 'queer' ).
What does he stand to gain by continuing to tell the truth about M.J.? Nothing. M.J.s dead.
westeightyone 2 years ago 5
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westeightyone: The second accuser and his family was caught lying during the trial. And MJ was acquitted on all charges. The accusers basically contradicted themselves and were caught lying.
bubbah 2 years ago
What's interesting , bubbah, is how you assume that a 'not guilty' verdict can only mean innocence.
Al Capone was never convicted of murder.
Using your logic, all those people that Al killed are still alive. They couldn't have died because Al Capone wasn't convicted of murder.
westeightyone 2 years ago 6
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The kid never correctly identified the look of MJ's penis.
MJ settled the case because he was on the verge of suicide and just wanted to move on. It was that charge which got him started on drugs apparently.
I'm not assuming anything. You are assuming that MJ was guilty despite the 100% acquittal. The facts of the case showed that the accusers put forth self-contradictory claims, were motivated by greed, lied, etc.
bubbah 2 years ago
You are assuming that MJ didn't do it, bubba,
just as I'm assuming that he was guilty.
Don't even begin to pretend that you're 'open minded' about this.
You're rallying to the defense of a famous person who you feel you know because you were moved by his singing and dancing.
You wouldn't make such lame excuses for a 'nobody'.
Are you a pitcher or a catcher in the NAMBLA baseball tournament ?
westeightyone 2 years ago 5
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westeightyone: No, I am not assuming that he didn't do it. I am poiting out the fact that there is no evidence that he did.
I realize that you can't make a case for your bogus claims, so you have to resort to attacks.
Irrational people who believe in things without evidence usually react like you do.
bubbah 2 years ago
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@westeightyone
Sorry to have to break it to you, but you are coming across as a bigot. You clearly have no rational arguments, so you try to get away from the fact that Jackson was acquitted on all accounts by making up stories and attacking people who expose your fallacies.
Sad, sad, sad.
tingtangs 2 years ago
That's funny, tingtangs,
I don't have any remorse whatsoever in breaking it to you that you're a moron.
You take Jackson's acquittal as absolute proof that he wasn't guilty.
Has it occurred to you that the questionable testimony of the second boy was motivated by something other than a desire for money ?
It's possible that he gave false evidence to make sure that his abuser was punished for the crime that he committed against him.
westeightyone 2 years ago 10
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@westeightyone
First personal attacks, then straw men, then groundless speculation. No wonder bubbah completely crushed your puny attempts at debating the topic with him!
There is no "absolute proof", just facts, and all facts point towards Jackson being innocent.
And in civiliced societies, you are innocent until proven guilty.
And lastly, the second boy contradicted himself and his parents, the parents were known for using their kids for shoplifting, etc. They lied, lied, lied.
tingtangs 2 years ago
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Yet another comment where bubbah points out that "the kid never correctly identified the look of MJ's penis" has been censored. Why?
He also explains why Jackson settlede the case.
Also, you are innocent until proven guilty. Unless you are westeightyone, in which case you are guilty as heck as soon as you are accused of something.
westeightyone and people who censor bubbah's comments basically want to throw the foundation of the court system out the window!
tingtangs 2 years ago
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Yet another comment where bubbah points out that "the kid never correctly identified the look of MJ's penis" has been censored. Why?
He also explains why Jackson settlede the case.
Also, you are innocent until proven guilty. Unless you are westeightyone, in which case you are guilty as heck as soon as you are accused of something.
westeightyone and people who censor bubbah's comments basically want to throw the foundation of the court system out the window!
tingtangs 2 years ago
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The descriptions didn't match.
bubbah 2 years ago
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The censored comment by bubbah here points out the fact that the descriptions of Jackson's penis from the kids who accused him of molestation did in fact not match.
Why are factual comments like that censored? Mind boggling.
tingtangs 2 years ago
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"caine 13" ill make sure to laugh when you die
norterncaliboss 2 years ago
DUMB BITCHWAS FUNNY ?
mjmonroe19rocks 2 years ago
HAHA Micheal Died On My Prom... Then The Last Prom Song Was A Micheal Jackson Song!! HAHAHA I Was Laughing So Hard... Omg.
caine13 2 years ago 20
lolololol dumbass
supedude6 2 years ago
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@caine13 I dont get it, what was so funny about that? Quite rude if you ask me. "HAHA Micheal Died On My Prom... Then The Last Prom Song Was A Micheal Jackson Song!! HAHAHA I Was Laughing So Hard... Omg."
okcoolios 1 year ago
@caine13 You laughed at the death of the KING? You need to get some fucking taste.
TheJada001 1 year ago
i think that michael jackson is one of the few artist that more then one generation grew up listening to him which is incredible
shawtygotloose23 2 years ago
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you know i cant get over some of you guysz rude responses. micheal was the first to do everything. he wasz thw one to open doors for not only black people, but people world wide. the dance moves that you see today is simply based off of his. i cant understand why people are so cruel, no one is saying to love the guy, but give him his respect! dame. we are the ones who killed him.
flexxlexx1 2 years ago
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ty hunny great vid
Gemmalouiselea 2 years ago
don't lie the person who walked in was your boyfriend. you knew he would get jealous if he heard you talking about another fag.
domeded 2 years ago
ok.
A. that is my mother walking in the door.
B. I'm not gay
C. I'm not dating anyone
D. even if I was, they wouldn't just walk in the house, people generally have manners... except for you.
bmichaelob 2 years ago 8
@bmichaelob nice one domeded got told and btw dont you dare call michael jackson a fag cause hes way better than you you could ever be so your the fag
TufffCooki2 11 months ago
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thankyou! finally someone gets it
GerardForeverLove 2 years ago
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ok wow someone dies everyday the reson this is such a big deal is because most of us grew up watching m.j on the news or listining to his music.excuse me for not knowing everying child living in africa! like seriouly listen to what you just sed tahts so patetic.M.J was important to alot of people so stop trying to make everyone feel guilty for not knowing every single person in the flipping world that dies.R.I.P M.J <33
GerardForeverLove 2 years ago
who came in the room xD
forevertony2006 2 years ago
Oh, my mom and my brother. It freaked me out because when I got home, I made this video, there was nobody home, and I didn't know they were going to pop in like that.
bmichaelob 2 years ago
Some where in Africa there a little boy who dead June 25 09 but never mind him are any other person who dead that day lets all marn the death of a child molester just because he was famous
this comment is for everyone who dead that day who's name isn't Micheal Jackson R.I.P to you all even if MJ fans don't care about you I do god bless you all.
SamkaveliTrey4ever 2 years ago
Seriously, if I made a video for every death that occurred I would have hundreds of videos a day. I do feel bad for the child that died, but honestly, it's not earth shattering news. If anyone who wasn't as well known to the world as MJ was, only a handful of people would actually care. My father died 2/9/09 and you don't see me complaining that nobody uploaded videos commemorating his death that day. So just be respectful.
bmichaelob 2 years ago
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SamkaveliTrey4ever: Jackson was never convicted of child molestation. The kid from the first case has later admitted that he lied, and in the second case he was 100% acquitted.
bubbah 2 years ago
n why are you shy to talk about michael infron of them :D
forevertony2006 2 years ago
I'm not, I was clearly done with the video. there was nothing more to say. It was a coincidence that they walked in just as i ended the video.
bmichaelob 2 years ago
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Well, I wasn't a big fan of Michael either, but I really miss him.
I actually thought it was a joke, when I heard it on the radio, and I still can't believe it...
Broodjekipkorn 2 years ago
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R.i.P MJ YOUU LiVE ON!!
OFFiCiALyGLAMfACE 2 years ago
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RIP Michael Jackson, your music will live on!!
cera678 2 years ago
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Wow finally a true video. Someone whose not like omfg im SO fucking sad. Someone whose saying something about his epic music that changed the world and still is. Not some OMFG IM SO SAD OMFGGG. Thanks man <3
tyler16666 2 years ago
I tried, I wasn't going to be bawling, because honestly, yeah his music was good and creative, but I was never one to be like... I wanna see him live! I wanna be at the concerts! No, I just simply am showing my respect for him and all that he did. The same as I would for anyone, I would for Farrah, but I didn't see her as an influence on me, although Peace be with her and her family, that was a very sad death as well.
bmichaelob 2 years ago
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I miss him. I wasn't a big fan of him either. R.I.P. Michael Jackson.
kjkvids13 2 years ago
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why....
dardaf904 2 years ago
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R.i.P Michael Jackson i miss u
And u will always be missed
R.I.P Michael Jackson
&& thanks 4 the video bmichaelob
rocawear7342 2 years ago