Are those rooms big enough to hold 30 floors worth of people? Parachutes, thats the answer. twin towers should have had one under every desk , on floors higher than 300 feet.
If the refuge room is only fireproof for two hours, that is surely unlikely to be long enough for the fire to be put out. Also, I doubt the fire service has 800m ladders or the ability to pump water high enough. Seems a pretty weak idea.
@CasparWilson The idea is to protect people from smoke and fire that may be brought under control quicker. Remember smoke can kill a person in minutes and a small fire can create a lot of smoke, especially plastic fires. the water getting to the top if you think about it they used hoses to get the concrete to the top so water is no problem. In terms of 2 hours, that is two hours at the max tempature of the fire, the steel frame would likely start to fail first as it would bend in that heat.
@stevedrummond1 But the water/concrete comparison is not really fair, because the point is not whether its technically possible to get water that high - its whether the fire service has the ability to do so at immediate notice. Otherwise you have "The Towering Inferno", IRL.
@CasparWilson Sorry i was unclear, let me explain. The building will have pre pressurised water sprinklers that run from mains water supply. As soon as an alarm is triggered they go off and bring the fire under control. The water for the sprinklers is already in the pipes, 800ms up, 24/7. Meanwhile the people go to these rooms and wait for the smoke to disappear from the escape stairs. The fire brigade will arrive and do a search of the building and insure the fire is completely out
Screw the Russians or the Chinese, Space exploration or whatever else you might be facing in the struggle for dominance, maybe first you need to adress these cocky arabs by building something worthy of representing the western world. This is a straight up diss to US and Western Europe. For the sake of argument, let's just say that the twin towers really did get destroyed by evil muslim terrorists, shouldn't this power display in the east make you a wee bit upset, Obama? Just asking..
I really wonder why Americans put up with this shit, where's your dignity.. Now, the Kingdom Tower is being constructed as we speak. In Jeddah, on a popular route to Mekka.. I mean, how Ironic is this, a kilometre high superstructure to completely dwarf the "freedom tower" in Manhattan.. I wiki quote : "On 2 August 2011, it was publicly announced by Kingdom Holding, the investment company, that a contract had been signed by Saudi Binladin Group" (.....)
It's not the shafts being on fire that stops u using elevators in an emergency , it's a precaution in case power to the shaft is cut and the elevator stops , basically never trust an elevator when evacuating.
Not convinced about those refuge rooms at all. How are the fire service supposed to bring a fire under control in a building that huge in under 2 hours? If it resists for two hours and the fire lasts longer, you could end up cooking slowly like a roast chicken, not a nice way to go!! They should equip the building with para gliders or mini air crafts that could shuttle people down in an emergency lol! (a bit futuristic maybe haha!)
and yes plse tak a look at videos of apace station.....i guess tat videos have been corrupted....tre might be sm prob in main server or while uploadin.....so plse chk it out :-)
Put a ton of little (foldable?) delta-planes in those safety room with a wall than become a jump plateform seem more pratical than a parachute , or staying in there with a fan at the door whos heating the fire.
It's quite obvious to me that those fans forcing high volumes of "fresh air" into the building during a fire will do nothing but superheat the fire and feed it to exponentially hot proportions, cooking the building (and it's steel) from the inside out and cracking and possibly even completely melting it's concrete walls.
Run the output hose of your shop vac onto your barbecue grill in order to understand this principal.
and how are 35,000 people supposed to fit into these 9 refuge rooms eh?? even if there is enough room which i highly doubt there not going to have 2 hours to fit everyone inside before the plane hits the building..... y bother??
but they aren't plane crashes resistance right? and that refuge ideas is just absurd... do you think people really want to be lock down inside the building at the 90 floors in the middle of fire? for me it just a big No..No.. i rather stay fit so i can use the stairs to go down and get a way from the building
In an earthquake, flat ground with nothing big directly overhead or near, like trees or big cliffs, is the safest place in town. Nobody with any brains wants to be in a building. Still, though, the makers of Taipei 101 have a point; in a bad situation (being in a building in an earthquake), it's a good idea to be in one that's built like theirs'.
Thanks for the upload. I've been looking for a documentary around YouTube showing off some basic schematics of this unreal structure; There is no doubt I'll have to visit it before my time one day. It and the rest of Dubai.
Armchairmaster: from a mile away, the plane would land at the base of the tower due to the fact that... oh IT'S ONLY GOING AT MAX VELOCITY! The tower would still be damaged
@poohdope you said"look up loose change, it will tell u everythg u need to know about 9.11"
Ans: That documentary(loose change) is released in April 13, 2005 , watch the latest documentary ever produced ! it's released in 2008 , this is the latest one
Zero: An Investigation Into 9-11 - part 1
h t t p : / / w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = O - Y q E T 9 6 O O 0
ohh so you trap the people in the building if it was bombed or hit by a plane and when it collapse due to a plane taking out structure there all killed, good idea but how about this one. put in comercail and private large aircraft a system to if it goes of course, the nearset mayjor airport takes control of it and disables all in cookpit controls, by remote control divces, land it where teams of armed proffesionals secure the vehicle, no more 911's, a lot safer and is possible, the army does!
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@JASWIR1979 You are really stupid! your writing your full name and your birthday and where you live on the internet for everyone to see, it's just ppl like you who is getting murded by the internet.
Then they should train the people to wear the parachute and jump down to the floor when in emergency....Ha ha.......They will die before the parachute fully open..
@sugipulaboule If they offered you the job of your dreams, 10.000 $ per month plus 4 wives to get married, plus free home expenses, pool etc, would you accept to work inside the Bourge Dubai? :)
i know this is a little outdated but yeah, you're right! if they had anti-aircraft guns built around it to destroy the plane however.... it would be the best place for staying.
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You meant to say: "There ARE no earthquarkes in Dubai!" It's the English language. I learned it. You can learn it. And one uses one single end punctuation, not multiple. Also exclamation points are are seldom appropriate in any statement one hopes will be taken seriously.
What happens if the fans are destroyed for some reason. Or the pipes carrying fresh air is blocked or damaged. I am assuming that would never happen because of the design but I don't know.
I was stunned when narrator John Michie said "THEY DON'T" at 5:58. Refuge rooms? How can those be put under Leap 7:Evacuation? They do not seem to be like places of refuge to facilitate evacuation though but trapping those victims to be roasted dead meats in locked chambers as prison ovens after two hours! So ironic, pathetic, and sad for such a hefty-lofty building. This reminisces Fatal Attraction!
one question...even if there are refuge rooms and fire resistant fans to push smoke out of the stairways...how would you be able to evacuate from the top stories of the building if some of the floors below were destroyed by an airplane?
dude they said the wall can resists fire for 2hrs and pump-in fresh air....2hrs is kinda enuf (i think) in the age of helicopters and other technology if the route to the top floor was blocked or destroyed!!
@drpepper576 when you design a building like this you have to take into consideration that if a fire were to violently spread throughout the building, many people will die. what you have to develop is fire prevention strategies rather than fire evacuation. and as for the plane attack, it happened once, i doubt it will happen again, and the chances of it happening are very unlikely. some things you just cant take into consideration when designing a building, they're just not practical
@drpepper576 hopefully there would still be some stair wells working. This documentary is stupid, there are no facts about the building at all, only facts about other building and speculation. for instance some new tall buildings have elevators that are not affected by fire as the shafts have fire protection and can be used to evacuate. this show didn't have a single fact about the building just speculation
@drpepper576 hopefully there would still be some stair wells working. This documentary is stupid, there are no facts about the building at all, only facts about other building and speculation. for instance some new tall buildings have elevators that are not affected by fire as the shafts have fire protection and can be used to evacuate. this is like they took bits here and there from megastructures docs and compliled a lump of crap they think the public would like to consume.
i think it was way more than just strange, i think it was impossible. if the fire was so hot how come Edna Cintron was waving from where the plane hit.
i never said it melted the steel, i said it weakened it. steel acts differently when its temperature reaches some 400 degrees Celsius and can't carry as much load as it could. look it up before posting "this is dumb" replys
because the massive temperature caused by the burning of the planes fuel weakened the steel and it could no longer hold the weight it was supposed to hold. and when that floor collapsed the rest just followed.
in the history of mankind there has been only 3 buildings that fell due to the cause of fire, the twin towers, and their building 7, they all fell on the same time, Sept 11 2001. Also you say that the temp weakened it?, well according to the law of physics, the building should have fallen in 45 seconds, if there was resistance every floor, but it took the building 7 seconds, odd.
yea read mi comment on top, (continuation) also if the building collapsed, why wasn't there any pieces of desks or chairs at ground zero? The biggest piece of an office thing was half of a phone-pad. Also why were all the steel frames broken into small pieces? in a collapsion, that cannot happen, unless dynamite was used...
Defelix... you're an idiot. Please reopen your physics book, because you don't understand the concepts you're trying to describe.
Nemo's right - the steel was weakened (not melted) enough that the walls and "cap" holding up the building failed, allowing the top floors to fall. The force of them falling onto the floors below is MORE than enough to collapse (and PULVERIZE INTO DUST) the remaining floors instantly.
also it's impossible for a building to PULVERIZE INTO DUST cuz simply the topper floors collapsed on eachother! THATS JUST GOING AGAINST THE LAW OF PHSYICS,!!!! MY WHOLE FAMILY IS IN CONSTRUCTION so we now some stuff, and do you realize that the FRAME was MADE so it cannot fall on top of eachother???? and btw NEMO im pretti sure the fires were 400 degrees, if it was the metal could not have melted, i remember it was lik something in the thousands, Not sure bout that though
Nate, ur a retard, so ur saying because one plane crashed into a building, the WHOLE steel frame weakened? Tats fucking impossible...yea if u say only the part the plane crashed into wekeaned, than wat bout the bottom part? You do realize that there were way mroe fires in the two buildings rite?t And you do realize the plane going through the builing is like a pencil going through a window mesh. Dude its physicalli IMPOSSIBLE for a building to collapse that fast.
Well, judging from your weak grasp on the English language, I'll assume you're in your early teens. That aside, I'm still going to attempt to speak to you as an adult.
Fire did not collapse the towers. The steel did not melt, and the bottom part of the tower was still unaffected, as you said. However, the WTC had a very unique construction - one that is only used in 40+ story buildings, and even then mainly on buildings built from the 50s to the 90s.
yep, judging you from trying to ACT like an adult, guess your an ignorant teen? So what are you proving here? R u saying the WTC had a unique construction so thats why it collapsed? So if a plane hits it, its gonna collapse cuz of the weakened frame? Do you know how many tests buildings go through to make sure shit like that doesn't happen? Your proving nothing here, you're out of stuff to say.
It had a tube-frame design, intended to maximize floor space so that there is more real estate to sell or lease - something extremely important in a building that is so expensive to build in the first place. This means that the entire building is supported between a central core of vertical beams and an outer shell of columns and walls, with the floors themselves and the roof "hat truss" playing critical roles in keeping the whole thing upright by redistributing weight evenly to all columns.
During the crash, several of the perimeter columns were severed, as were some of the interior columns. Many other columns were damaged to varying degrees, including partial removal of heat-protection designed to protect the steel columns from fire. Some of the remaining columns, now exposed to more heat than was ever expected during planning or construction, began to undergo plastic deformation and creep (think "stretching") from the immense weight they were trying to hold up.
With pieces of the walls missing, the center columns took on more weight than normal. The weight of the building started pushing them downward, but the hat truss held them up, redistributing weight to the walls.
Unfortunately, the system failed as the fires weakened the steel frame just enough for the floors to sag - not a lot, but enough for one of the damaged walls to be pulled in by the force of it.
When the wall failed, the weight being held up by that wall suddenly had to be held up by something else - that weight was redistributed back to the central columns by the hat truss (as designed)... but now the weight on those columns was FAR more than they could possibly hold up.
When the final collapse started, it was impossible to stop, due entirely to the enormous amount of energy stored in the weight of the portion of the tower above the damaged area.
The force of the impact of this section onto the floor below it was an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE larger than any floor was able to withstand, so that it buckled immediately and led its own weight to the kinetic energy of the fall. With each floor, the force grew stronger, until by the bottom, yes, there was enough force to pulverize concrete into dust. In fact, that's not even that hard to do - have you ever dropped a cinder block on its corner before?
The failure of the building in this way is one of the reasons why this type of construction is no longer in use, and why the Burj Dubai has a much more even spacing in its support structure.
The Burj Dubai is also much narrower at the top than the bottom, further adding to its stability and working against a full-on progressive collapse should any structural failure occur.
I was going to say that they put in a pole to slide down. But in both cases you would get going to fast and also people would be entering from other floors and you would collide with them.
i think they should put parachutes in rooms for everyone and if there is a terrorist attack id just jump the fuck out i aint waiting in no fucken refugee room id die of waiting
9 rooms for all the people in the building? Thats not real awesome stuff. But maybe a small fire in the 11th floor won't itch a person in the 146th floor.
However, if its a terrorist attack (in such case everyone has to evacuate), then seriosly, 9 rooms is just too less.
I`m a chemist and I can tell that if you activate a turbofan to clear the smoke, the air pumped in better not contain oxygen or the fire temperature will raise from 1200degC to 3000degC or above. Clearing the smoke will cause the fire to become out of control.
As it was explained, this building is made out of concrete, and not steel. If an attack like 9/11 happens, the building will not fall. Sure, there would be fire, and you have to protect people from it, but the building would not collapse. Concrete does not melt.
they completely went off topic to diverse your attention when talking about 911 as they said that it was a day could have signaled the end of taller skyscrapers due to the plane attack. So instead of talking about how to keep a skyscraper from collapsing, they are talking about STAYING SAFE in a near fire proof room.....HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU PLANNING ON KEEPING IN THE BUILDING IF IT WERE TO BE IN THE SITUATION OF THE TWO TOWERS JACK ASS?
felt pretty disguested when seeing the world trade cetre : /... yeh ive heard about hte al bruj which is apprently going to be taller...who knows though? everything s kept so secret
I'm surprised they didn't mention anything about the Taipei 101's gigantic tuned mass damper. I thought those were the new thing you gotta have in your insanely enormous building.
meh, that one seems to be a lot of talk, they've flipped flopped between dick-swinging around saying it'll be 1200 metres to thinking that it may not make financial sense for them to try to beat burj dubai, and back again. At the end of the day, which building is already unofficially the tallest currently standing structure on earth? And which one doesn't even have a final design, let alone construction started? All they have going is soil testing so far.
An even better safety feature would be to give everyone a parachute, so in the case of an evacuation, everyone can just simply jump off. Hell it'll be the best white knuckle ride you'll ever go on.
I agree, not sure how effective the refuge rooms will be & who will control when the door is locked (to others)?. Thinking out loud . . Maybe these rooms shoud have a controlled emergency exit door to an expanding safety platform outside, for rescue helicopter access . . just a though?
I am also suprised th hear about the use of ans to disperse the smoke on stairways, I though buildings shutdown vent systems to stop the draft feeding the fire?
I see and understand the point of the rooms, but the problem with it is, there is no way that they can get a fire under that much control within 2 hours, therefore making anybody in the rooms dead after that time anyway. And something can only be fireproof for so long. Also, if the building collapses, that would be one hell of a fall to your death, don't you think?
They forgot to mention that apparantly the lifts are fire rated too - unlike a normal skyscraper where the lifts shut down, at least some of them are designed to carry on working after fire warnings go off...
Fireproof for 2 hours? They forgot to say the best part, which is "Then beyond that time, people would be all roasted chickens inside that oven" LOL
raksilpogi12 6 days ago
I want one for those for my birthday :)..
onlychicanomex 2 weeks ago
Are those rooms big enough to hold 30 floors worth of people? Parachutes, thats the answer. twin towers should have had one under every desk , on floors higher than 300 feet.
terryperring104 2 months ago
If the refuge room is only fireproof for two hours, that is surely unlikely to be long enough for the fire to be put out. Also, I doubt the fire service has 800m ladders or the ability to pump water high enough. Seems a pretty weak idea.
CasparWilson 2 months ago
@CasparWilson The idea is to protect people from smoke and fire that may be brought under control quicker. Remember smoke can kill a person in minutes and a small fire can create a lot of smoke, especially plastic fires. the water getting to the top if you think about it they used hoses to get the concrete to the top so water is no problem. In terms of 2 hours, that is two hours at the max tempature of the fire, the steel frame would likely start to fail first as it would bend in that heat.
stevedrummond1 1 week ago
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stevedrummond1 1 week ago
@stevedrummond1 But the water/concrete comparison is not really fair, because the point is not whether its technically possible to get water that high - its whether the fire service has the ability to do so at immediate notice. Otherwise you have "The Towering Inferno", IRL.
CasparWilson 1 week ago
@CasparWilson Sorry i was unclear, let me explain. The building will have pre pressurised water sprinklers that run from mains water supply. As soon as an alarm is triggered they go off and bring the fire under control. The water for the sprinklers is already in the pipes, 800ms up, 24/7. Meanwhile the people go to these rooms and wait for the smoke to disappear from the escape stairs. The fire brigade will arrive and do a search of the building and insure the fire is completely out
stevedrummond1 1 week ago
Screw the Russians or the Chinese, Space exploration or whatever else you might be facing in the struggle for dominance, maybe first you need to adress these cocky arabs by building something worthy of representing the western world. This is a straight up diss to US and Western Europe. For the sake of argument, let's just say that the twin towers really did get destroyed by evil muslim terrorists, shouldn't this power display in the east make you a wee bit upset, Obama? Just asking..
thomaschristianreits 2 months ago
I really wonder why Americans put up with this shit, where's your dignity.. Now, the Kingdom Tower is being constructed as we speak. In Jeddah, on a popular route to Mekka.. I mean, how Ironic is this, a kilometre high superstructure to completely dwarf the "freedom tower" in Manhattan.. I wiki quote : "On 2 August 2011, it was publicly announced by Kingdom Holding, the investment company, that a contract had been signed by Saudi Binladin Group" (.....)
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Horne2711 2 months ago
I guess the designer of the Refuge Room didn't know that the Twin Tower's collapsed.
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It's not the shafts being on fire that stops u using elevators in an emergency , it's a precaution in case power to the shaft is cut and the elevator stops , basically never trust an elevator when evacuating.
mercenarieboy 4 months ago
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93MANIAC 5 months ago
Not convinced about those refuge rooms at all. How are the fire service supposed to bring a fire under control in a building that huge in under 2 hours? If it resists for two hours and the fire lasts longer, you could end up cooking slowly like a roast chicken, not a nice way to go!! They should equip the building with para gliders or mini air crafts that could shuttle people down in an emergency lol! (a bit futuristic maybe haha!)
nopseudosleft56 5 months ago
wouldn't the 'clean, cool air' make the fire worse?
satnavboy789 5 months ago
@satnavboy789 My thought exactly. I mean, doesn't oxygen feed fire?
nopseudosleft56 5 months ago
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Put a ton of little (foldable?) delta-planes in those safety room with a wall than become a jump plateform seem more pratical than a parachute , or staying in there with a fan at the door whos heating the fire.
cerfy123 7 months ago
thank you so much, excellent documentary, very interesting ;)
kalashnikovIII 7 months ago
It's quite obvious to me that those fans forcing high volumes of "fresh air" into the building during a fire will do nothing but superheat the fire and feed it to exponentially hot proportions, cooking the building (and it's steel) from the inside out and cracking and possibly even completely melting it's concrete walls.
Run the output hose of your shop vac onto your barbecue grill in order to understand this principal.
AnontheOP 8 months ago
@AnontheOP Unless the air is cold of course
Kcoolkid1 5 months ago
A facinating and really interesting programme - I WAS GLUED!!!!
Thanxs for the upload!! xx
TheCaulfield1 8 months ago
yes like errrrrrrrbodys sayin parachutes would be typical from the about the 25 - 30th floor and up...
POPCORN454545 9 months ago
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TheCrispism 10 months ago
@TheCrispism butthurt amerifag detected. umad?
David20931 7 months ago
@David20931 its soooo nice cause u just got owned dickface im not amerifag and netiher am i mad haha fail troll
TheCrispism 7 months ago
and how are 35,000 people supposed to fit into these 9 refuge rooms eh?? even if there is enough room which i highly doubt there not going to have 2 hours to fit everyone inside before the plane hits the building..... y bother??
ARBITEROFTHECOVENANT 10 months ago
How about Parachutes? Every floor should have 1000 of them.
Sassymui8 11 months ago 2
The biggest challenge was the heat omg those turban are there for a reason and it helps alot
ayeshazoky 11 months ago
That was amazing thanks for the upload. :)
lyricallysikh1 11 months ago
but they aren't plane crashes resistance right? and that refuge ideas is just absurd... do you think people really want to be lock down inside the building at the 90 floors in the middle of fire? for me it just a big No..No.. i rather stay fit so i can use the stairs to go down and get a way from the building
peterinne 1 year ago
In an earthquake, flat ground with nothing big directly overhead or near, like trees or big cliffs, is the safest place in town. Nobody with any brains wants to be in a building. Still, though, the makers of Taipei 101 have a point; in a bad situation (being in a building in an earthquake), it's a good idea to be in one that's built like theirs'.
ydabom 1 year ago
God Bless You Dubai ..! =')
YMBPhotography 1 year ago
holy fuck
thus building has a lot of safety precautions
dilga234 1 year ago
Thanks for the upload. I've been looking for a documentary around YouTube showing off some basic schematics of this unreal structure; There is no doubt I'll have to visit it before my time one day. It and the rest of Dubai.
AveNullusMajestic 1 year ago
@TMA omg its not green but 60% of all people in the world are linving on a high building - i know my english is very bad...
nigelvanveen 1 year ago
so if bush flys a plane into this tower will it decapitate?
DaShadowInc 1 year ago
Armchairmaster: from a mile away, the plane would land at the base of the tower due to the fact that... oh IT'S ONLY GOING AT MAX VELOCITY! The tower would still be damaged
th3thrilld3m0n 1 year ago
Who come ppl that blow us up get a "refuge rooms" ??
lazyboyedm 1 year ago
@lazyboyedm dude.. only 10% of the people living in dubai are actually from dubai. The rest are ex pats..
henrycg100 1 year ago
i really don't understand .... how can a single mere plane can reduce steel structure into small poweder ??
minooo44 1 year ago
@minooo44 look up loose change, it will tell u everythg u need to know about 9.11
poohdope 1 year ago
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@poohdope you said"look up loose change, it will tell u everythg u need to know about 9.11"
Ans: That documentary(loose change) is released in April 13, 2005 , watch the latest documentary ever produced ! it's released in 2008 , this is the latest one
Zero: An Investigation Into 9-11 - part 1
h t t p : / / w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = O - Y q E T 9 6 O O 0
minooo44 1 year ago
ohh so you trap the people in the building if it was bombed or hit by a plane and when it collapse due to a plane taking out structure there all killed, good idea but how about this one. put in comercail and private large aircraft a system to if it goes of course, the nearset mayjor airport takes control of it and disables all in cookpit controls, by remote control divces, land it where teams of armed proffesionals secure the vehicle, no more 911's, a lot safer and is possible, the army does!
boltjet135 1 year ago
Hmmm . . . Relying on a lot of fans and motors there for smoke control. Stuffed if the power goes down.
peakbusiness 1 year ago
stupid moth f**ckers why would they blow up a wonderful landmark
tma112 1 year ago
MY NAME IS JASWIR SINGH UTRADHI FROM MUMBAI,INDIA,I REALLY LIKED THE MAKING OF BURJ DUBAI BY DISCOVERY CHANNEL,IT GIVES LOT OF KNOWLEDGE FOR UPCOMING ENGINEER'S AND BUILDER'S WHO ALL ARE FROM CONSTRUCTION LINE'S,BECAUSE ENGINEER'S CAN LEARN SOMETHING OUT OF IT AND MAKE GOOD SKY SCRAPER'S FOR LIVELIHOOD.JAI HIND.
JASWIR1979 1 year ago
@JASWIR1979 It's not very smart to say your name or where you live on the net...
cappermeh 1 year ago
@JASWIR1979 You are really stupid! your writing your full name and your birthday and where you live on the internet for everyone to see, it's just ppl like you who is getting murded by the internet.
cappermeh 1 year ago
couldn't they just build Anti-Aircraft missile launchers around the Dubai? they'd just prevent the plane from coming maybe a mile away....
armchairmaster 1 year ago
Then they should train the people to wear the parachute and jump down to the floor when in emergency....Ha ha.......They will die before the parachute fully open..
melbourneopera 1 year ago 5
surely using fans to drive the smoke away would simply fan the fires and make them bigger?? :S
chrispepper90 1 year ago 6
surely you're a moron.
R4shM4n 1 year ago
HAHAHA..... I am goin to my studio appartment dere on 23 March... :-)
toffo044 2 years ago
This building is dancing with death, really.
Still, I think it's beautiful.
sugipulaboule 2 years ago
@sugipulaboule If they offered you the job of your dreams, 10.000 $ per month plus 4 wives to get married, plus free home expenses, pool etc, would you accept to work inside the Bourge Dubai? :)
hrbear 1 year ago
@sugipulaboule
i know this is a little outdated but yeah, you're right! if they had anti-aircraft guns built around it to destroy the plane however.... it would be the best place for staying.
armchairmaster 1 year ago
Well.... If they made the refuge rooms , so whe didn't they made refuge downstairs halls?
roojole123 2 years ago
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You meant to say: "There ARE no earthquarkes in Dubai!" It's the English language. I learned it. You can learn it. And one uses one single end punctuation, not multiple. Also exclamation points are are seldom appropriate in any statement one hopes will be taken seriously.
cantopia 2 years ago
What happens if the fans are destroyed for some reason. Or the pipes carrying fresh air is blocked or damaged. I am assuming that would never happen because of the design but I don't know.
remixmatrix 2 years ago
I was stunned when narrator John Michie said "THEY DON'T" at 5:58. Refuge rooms? How can those be put under Leap 7:Evacuation? They do not seem to be like places of refuge to facilitate evacuation though but trapping those victims to be roasted dead meats in locked chambers as prison ovens after two hours! So ironic, pathetic, and sad for such a hefty-lofty building. This reminisces Fatal Attraction!
peterlzw 2 years ago
the refuge rooms and the stairwell fans sound kinda flaky to me.
conspirator9 2 years ago
I agree.
thecandidate0607 2 years ago
Until someone builds......... an even bigger one. Supposedly the Nakheel Tower is a pretty serious proposal. It kind of wasn't before.
1DanielChristensen 2 years ago
the thing that pumps air on to the fire seems illogical. fires need one thing to work
fresh oxygen.
AsboDolche 2 years ago
thats cool but WHY?
DxlilxD 2 years ago
Refuge rooms = voluntary quick burial chambers for stupid people. Now that will clear up the stair well.
kvin44 2 years ago 17
i would prefer to keep my feet on the ground. Incase of a tsunami then i would be up that building in a flash.
Jjay7 2 years ago 2
one question...even if there are refuge rooms and fire resistant fans to push smoke out of the stairways...how would you be able to evacuate from the top stories of the building if some of the floors below were destroyed by an airplane?
drpepper576 2 years ago 14
dude they said the wall can resists fire for 2hrs and pump-in fresh air....2hrs is kinda enuf (i think) in the age of helicopters and other technology if the route to the top floor was blocked or destroyed!!
:S
hus787 2 years ago
no helicopter can go near a bulding that is on fire it is imposable for the helicopters to manuver so helicopter is out of question
sande1212 2 years ago
true!!
then providing parachutes would be the only option left i think:S
hus787 2 years ago
it's impossible. people would pay the price of some people's big egos.
JoseProkof 2 years ago
well its more about improving technology.. not about egos u know..
Danafsta 2 years ago
@drpepper576 they forgot to mention the airplane-proof windows.
1DanielChristensen 2 years ago 3
@drpepper576 parachutes !!
semihhotmailde 9 months ago
@drpepper576 when you design a building like this you have to take into consideration that if a fire were to violently spread throughout the building, many people will die. what you have to develop is fire prevention strategies rather than fire evacuation. and as for the plane attack, it happened once, i doubt it will happen again, and the chances of it happening are very unlikely. some things you just cant take into consideration when designing a building, they're just not practical
shitandbiscuites 6 months ago
@drpepper576 You wont. If the building doesn't collapse you'll be eventually rescued but if it does you'll die.
Kcoolkid1 5 months ago
@drpepper576 hopefully there would still be some stair wells working. This documentary is stupid, there are no facts about the building at all, only facts about other building and speculation. for instance some new tall buildings have elevators that are not affected by fire as the shafts have fire protection and can be used to evacuate. this show didn't have a single fact about the building just speculation
hazmatsystem88 5 months ago
@drpepper576 hopefully there would still be some stair wells working. This documentary is stupid, there are no facts about the building at all, only facts about other building and speculation. for instance some new tall buildings have elevators that are not affected by fire as the shafts have fire protection and can be used to evacuate. this is like they took bits here and there from megastructures docs and compliled a lump of crap they think the public would like to consume.
hazmatsystem88 5 months ago
@hazmatsystem88
Did your dumb ass actually watch the video or are just talking crap?
yohomes5 2 months ago
@drpepper576 helicopter.
simmytime 2 months ago
they should build slide circular slide for emergency use. hahah that would be freakin awesome!
JUKIO01 2 years ago
i think it was way more than just strange, i think it was impossible. if the fire was so hot how come Edna Cintron was waving from where the plane hit.
MetalManDan7 2 years ago
i never said it melted the steel, i said it weakened it. steel acts differently when its temperature reaches some 400 degrees Celsius and can't carry as much load as it could. look it up before posting "this is dumb" replys
nemozeteminista 2 years ago
because the massive temperature caused by the burning of the planes fuel weakened the steel and it could no longer hold the weight it was supposed to hold. and when that floor collapsed the rest just followed.
nemozeteminista 2 years ago
in the history of mankind there has been only 3 buildings that fell due to the cause of fire, the twin towers, and their building 7, they all fell on the same time, Sept 11 2001. Also you say that the temp weakened it?, well according to the law of physics, the building should have fallen in 45 seconds, if there was resistance every floor, but it took the building 7 seconds, odd.
defelix2432 2 years ago
yea read mi comment on top, (continuation) also if the building collapsed, why wasn't there any pieces of desks or chairs at ground zero? The biggest piece of an office thing was half of a phone-pad. Also why were all the steel frames broken into small pieces? in a collapsion, that cannot happen, unless dynamite was used...
defelix2432 2 years ago
Defelix... you're an idiot. Please reopen your physics book, because you don't understand the concepts you're trying to describe.
Nemo's right - the steel was weakened (not melted) enough that the walls and "cap" holding up the building failed, allowing the top floors to fall. The force of them falling onto the floors below is MORE than enough to collapse (and PULVERIZE INTO DUST) the remaining floors instantly.
natewheels13 2 years ago
Yes, I'm an engineer. I will gladly discuss physics with you whenever you'd like to help clear up the parts you don't understand.
natewheels13 2 years ago
also it's impossible for a building to PULVERIZE INTO DUST cuz simply the topper floors collapsed on eachother! THATS JUST GOING AGAINST THE LAW OF PHSYICS,!!!! MY WHOLE FAMILY IS IN CONSTRUCTION so we now some stuff, and do you realize that the FRAME was MADE so it cannot fall on top of eachother???? and btw NEMO im pretti sure the fires were 400 degrees, if it was the metal could not have melted, i remember it was lik something in the thousands, Not sure bout that though
defelix2432 2 years ago 2
Nate, ur a retard, so ur saying because one plane crashed into a building, the WHOLE steel frame weakened? Tats fucking impossible...yea if u say only the part the plane crashed into wekeaned, than wat bout the bottom part? You do realize that there were way mroe fires in the two buildings rite?t And you do realize the plane going through the builing is like a pencil going through a window mesh. Dude its physicalli IMPOSSIBLE for a building to collapse that fast.
defelix2432 2 years ago
Well, judging from your weak grasp on the English language, I'll assume you're in your early teens. That aside, I'm still going to attempt to speak to you as an adult.
Fire did not collapse the towers. The steel did not melt, and the bottom part of the tower was still unaffected, as you said. However, the WTC had a very unique construction - one that is only used in 40+ story buildings, and even then mainly on buildings built from the 50s to the 90s.
natewheels13 2 years ago
yep, judging you from trying to ACT like an adult, guess your an ignorant teen? So what are you proving here? R u saying the WTC had a unique construction so thats why it collapsed? So if a plane hits it, its gonna collapse cuz of the weakened frame? Do you know how many tests buildings go through to make sure shit like that doesn't happen? Your proving nothing here, you're out of stuff to say.
defelix2432 2 years ago
It had a tube-frame design, intended to maximize floor space so that there is more real estate to sell or lease - something extremely important in a building that is so expensive to build in the first place. This means that the entire building is supported between a central core of vertical beams and an outer shell of columns and walls, with the floors themselves and the roof "hat truss" playing critical roles in keeping the whole thing upright by redistributing weight evenly to all columns.
natewheels13 2 years ago 3
During the crash, several of the perimeter columns were severed, as were some of the interior columns. Many other columns were damaged to varying degrees, including partial removal of heat-protection designed to protect the steel columns from fire. Some of the remaining columns, now exposed to more heat than was ever expected during planning or construction, began to undergo plastic deformation and creep (think "stretching") from the immense weight they were trying to hold up.
natewheels13 2 years ago
With pieces of the walls missing, the center columns took on more weight than normal. The weight of the building started pushing them downward, but the hat truss held them up, redistributing weight to the walls.
Unfortunately, the system failed as the fires weakened the steel frame just enough for the floors to sag - not a lot, but enough for one of the damaged walls to be pulled in by the force of it.
natewheels13 2 years ago
When the wall failed, the weight being held up by that wall suddenly had to be held up by something else - that weight was redistributed back to the central columns by the hat truss (as designed)... but now the weight on those columns was FAR more than they could possibly hold up.
When the final collapse started, it was impossible to stop, due entirely to the enormous amount of energy stored in the weight of the portion of the tower above the damaged area.
natewheels13 2 years ago
The force of the impact of this section onto the floor below it was an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE larger than any floor was able to withstand, so that it buckled immediately and led its own weight to the kinetic energy of the fall. With each floor, the force grew stronger, until by the bottom, yes, there was enough force to pulverize concrete into dust. In fact, that's not even that hard to do - have you ever dropped a cinder block on its corner before?
natewheels13 2 years ago
The failure of the building in this way is one of the reasons why this type of construction is no longer in use, and why the Burj Dubai has a much more even spacing in its support structure.
The Burj Dubai is also much narrower at the top than the bottom, further adding to its stability and working against a full-on progressive collapse should any structural failure occur.
natewheels13 2 years ago
i just came back from Dubai Been there for work and this tower gives me chicken skin... it is unbelievably MASSIVE folks
with waterworks and huge malls + luxury residences everywhere at its feet
blows your mind
wizecat 2 years ago 2
they should add a giant spiral slide to. that would just be cool. i dont care how impractical it is.
MetalManDan7 2 years ago 2
haha i think one might die at the end of the slide.. think of the landing...
tobysaurus 2 years ago
I was going to say that they put in a pole to slide down. But in both cases you would get going to fast and also people would be entering from other floors and you would collide with them.
NEXPAR 2 years ago
And what happens if you let go lol?
SolomonJonesIsBack 2 years ago
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NEXPAR 2 years ago
ikaw ang ulol!!!!!!!!!!
hehehe!!!!!
megasugat 2 years ago
i think they should put parachutes in rooms for everyone and if there is a terrorist attack id just jump the fuck out i aint waiting in no fucken refugee room id die of waiting
polakbart 2 years ago 5
that was amazing!! i have seen taipei 101 and i cant imagine how it is standing on top of it looken to the ground,,
aysibalsikya07 2 years ago
9 rooms for all the people in the building? Thats not real awesome stuff. But maybe a small fire in the 11th floor won't itch a person in the 146th floor.
However, if its a terrorist attack (in such case everyone has to evacuate), then seriosly, 9 rooms is just too less.
Iamcrazylolol 3 years ago 2
elastic is the wrong word. in order for the building to remain elastic durring an earthquake they would have to make the columns huuuuuuugeeeee
myiqisinfinity 3 years ago
no matter how big it is. if its solid it will crack and collapse its a matter of the earth vs the building
thugsterz 2 years ago
Like notin can harm that long ting.........
Chelseathechamps 3 years ago 2
i ain't goin in no fuckin refuge room
mplayer98 3 years ago 5
I`m a chemist and I can tell that if you activate a turbofan to clear the smoke, the air pumped in better not contain oxygen or the fire temperature will raise from 1200degC to 3000degC or above. Clearing the smoke will cause the fire to become out of control.
ProxySpam 3 years ago 2
Assuming there is a fire in the stairwell. Good thing there is no fuel in the stairwell for the fire to thrive off of.
GhostPK 3 years ago
As it was explained, this building is made out of concrete, and not steel. If an attack like 9/11 happens, the building will not fall. Sure, there would be fire, and you have to protect people from it, but the building would not collapse. Concrete does not melt.
edibek 3 years ago
they completely went off topic to diverse your attention when talking about 911 as they said that it was a day could have signaled the end of taller skyscrapers due to the plane attack. So instead of talking about how to keep a skyscraper from collapsing, they are talking about STAYING SAFE in a near fire proof room.....HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU PLANNING ON KEEPING IN THE BUILDING IF IT WERE TO BE IN THE SITUATION OF THE TWO TOWERS JACK ASS?
RAYZORSEDGE 3 years ago
thanks a lot for that vid i really love it hope they make more
reecescootkid 3 years ago
Great vids man!! Thanks...
Javier140290 3 years ago 2
i didnt
snowie1 3 years ago
Great documentary!! I love skyscrapers but it was always hard to understand how they build it with all those concrete and steel.
But I know it now, thanks to this documentary!
Thanks for posting this Documentary
phbfi 3 years ago 3
some body can explain me the part where the make the excavations in order to do tha bases of the tower? what suport the concrete bases?
elcartelcolombiano 3 years ago
The ground. They excavate 50m in order to find the adecuate ground and up from there they put concrete!
Javier140290 3 years ago
felt pretty disguested when seeing the world trade cetre : /... yeh ive heard about hte al bruj which is apprently going to be taller...who knows though? everything s kept so secret
sambalightning 3 years ago
Great documentary. I loved it! :-)
Edward77X 3 years ago
best skyscraper film i have ever seen in my life
respect to dubai
maurerFICKER 3 years ago 4
I'm surprised they didn't mention anything about the Taipei 101's gigantic tuned mass damper. I thought those were the new thing you gotta have in your insanely enormous building.
McGuinty1 3 years ago 2
I think they are counting on no massively strong earthquakes in the UAE.
CBound 3 years ago
they're building the "al burj" which is going to be 3,000 feet tall. you can look it up on wikipedia
hateoprah49 3 years ago
meh, that one seems to be a lot of talk, they've flipped flopped between dick-swinging around saying it'll be 1200 metres to thinking that it may not make financial sense for them to try to beat burj dubai, and back again. At the end of the day, which building is already unofficially the tallest currently standing structure on earth? And which one doesn't even have a final design, let alone construction started? All they have going is soil testing so far.
McGuinty1 3 years ago
At 7:24, where is the camera? Is it attatched to him?
planemadmatt 3 years ago
good document and cool building
isokessu 3 years ago 2
very good documentary , the burj is FUCKIN AMAAAZING !! totally mind blooowing !!!
die4race 3 years ago
At least they won't have to worry about terrorist planes flying in to it - it is in a Muslim country after all.
Dendiol 3 years ago 2
I totally agree.
Dendiol 3 years ago
They said there were only nine safety rooms ... doesn't that seem like too few for 35,000 occupants?
clang1979 3 years ago 13
For ayone in the UK, this documentary is repeated on Channel 5, Sunday 6th April 16:10 - 17:10
UKHolidaydude 3 years ago
An even better safety feature would be to give everyone a parachute, so in the case of an evacuation, everyone can just simply jump off. Hell it'll be the best white knuckle ride you'll ever go on.
danielandcompany 3 years ago 4
Great documentary! Really quality stuff
Sondre7 3 years ago 2
I agree, not sure how effective the refuge rooms will be & who will control when the door is locked (to others)?. Thinking out loud . . Maybe these rooms shoud have a controlled emergency exit door to an expanding safety platform outside, for rescue helicopter access . . just a though?
I am also suprised th hear about the use of ans to disperse the smoke on stairways, I though buildings shutdown vent systems to stop the draft feeding the fire?
Still . . . this is a magnificent building
UKHolidaydude 3 years ago 4
I see and understand the point of the rooms, but the problem with it is, there is no way that they can get a fire under that much control within 2 hours, therefore making anybody in the rooms dead after that time anyway. And something can only be fireproof for so long. Also, if the building collapses, that would be one hell of a fall to your death, don't you think?
thekid8907 3 years ago
that air will make the fire biger! x(
researchologist 3 years ago 2
Maybe so, but to clear the smoke from the stairs is more than worth it I think.
CBound 3 years ago
not really because MORE FIRE = MORE SMOKE!
conspirator9 2 years ago
They forgot to mention that apparantly the lifts are fire rated too - unlike a normal skyscraper where the lifts shut down, at least some of them are designed to carry on working after fire warnings go off...
googlepeakoil 3 years ago
excellent doc, but what if the stairs are destroyed. how will you get out then???
KingOfAllIdiots 3 years ago
How would they get destroyed? Only a bomb or an incoming plane would be able to do that I guess.
D3QUAL 3 years ago
Yep. This is a great documentary.
kuusanmaki 3 years ago
This is the best documentary on the Burj i have never seen!! Brilliant!
blaxanext 3 years ago 2
Brilliant. Make sure you watch the first 4 parts before watching this one. Terrific show, phenomenal graphics.
sandfields 3 years ago