its up to us to do something. stop sitting behind here and ranting. it was inside job and bush was behind it. I guess were to busy hearing about charlie sheen
I was the just hoping to get a chance to address Mrs. Clinton about her stance on gay marriage. I did not bother to watch the whole video as I have better things to do but if they played all of what they video tape you will notice they did not follow me into the "hood" where I often feed the homeless and defended the poor against police oppression. They would have their a** beat by the hookers i give condoms too and the crackheads make sure the police don't abuse. LOVE DPM
tell em davey wow these are the guys that make hard working protesters look like idiots. they create more work for us and solve nothing. wow the utter stupidity. i wonder how much his daddy paid for his camera and his boyfriend's clothes?
Hey akbarsfez I want to make sure we are talking about the same person. I'm talking about David P. Maddon. P as in Poor Poor Pitiful Me. You need to recount your douchebags. I believe you will find two more. They are losers too. Losers attract losers. That's why you and Dave are buddies. I'm sure anyone that looked at your videos on youtube would agree with me. Just to prove I'm not what you said I am let me help you out. Dochebag is two words. Well maybe not in Loser lingo.
Woah! Who pissed in your Post Toasties? I have no idea who you are or why on earth you have a beef with Dave, but there's no need to be such an utter prick, yeah?
LMAO!!!! Omg, that's my buddy Dave Maddon in the polar bear sweater. Okay, if anyone would get a massive kick out of harassing these two douchebags by doing nothing, it's Dave. He's not an undercover anything. He's a funny, smart dude who's into subversive theatrics and probably went home and laughed his ass off that these guys were freaked out by him.
Who does he work for? What a stupid question. He doesn't work. He is like a tick. He has to have a host to survive. Hey David how are those nice stolls across Hwy 9. Alot of effort just to get high. BIG LOSER!
I have known Dave Maddon aka "creepy Guy" for 15 years and he exudes more pure class in an off day than you guys will ever scrape up during your entire lives
This had to be an act cuz' I know the guy who "plays" the creepy guy. He is David Maddon he is High School friend from my days back in Oklahoma. He went to SF to go to school for fashion design and recently went back to Oklahoma. I know him enough to know he would'nt be doing anything like that. I know for a fact he is not CIA/FBI/Undercover person. He is very liberal and as a Buddhist hold views very much against war. And holds some great contempt for the Bush "wag the dog" war machine.
It's import to investigate things that don't add up, but try to be more clever and less indecent or you will LOSE support with these pugnacious tactics.
My friend is going to be a Canadian lawyer. Neat jobs for that career.
Sept. 11 was my grad. yr. I was (so) sad about it. Still am. Families lost.
Many identified as dead might have ID and purses not found yet! The missing people are kept and knapped down bellow the building, My Mom and I both thought that day. There is a ground below the building! An inside job. yes
My friend is going to be a Canadian lawyer. Neat jobs for that career.
Sept. 11 was my grad. yr. I was (so) sad about it. Still am. Families lost.
Many identified as dead might have ID and purses not found yet! The missing people are kept and knapped down bellow the building, My Mom and I both thought that day. There is a ground below the building! An inside job. yes
I want to know these guys. They are possibly Christian? They stand up.
I know proof. This is true almost enough to write an adult essay of it. It's in youtube under Mind Control experiments. later mentions CIA, Pres. Bush. Hilary made a common story up with Bill Clinton.
One lady speaks with an FBI. She's not ill, just has multiple personality-they call it.
I know more than this...Check out 911 truth about U.S. gas saved being hidden and gas prices rising, enough gas for two hundred yrs.
the sex trade is the biggest business in the world...discouraging hay, I got a Business diploma as well.
Bush is head of the CIA cause if CIA won't back Bush up then Bush can back himself up do ya see. Cause Bush is the head of U.S. and the police. police?
youtube says when ya type in White House sex slaves...one lady in blond hair mentions it. And says what it was like under an experiment similar to the one in Montreal in 1970 with a mental doctor who told a guy he killed his mother-he didn't kill her but he found her.
There is absolutely nothing that can be done with shows like this. I respect everyones desire to change our present circumstances. But people in power will never be intimidated by a few random people screaming things at them. Best thing anyone of us can do is dedicate our lives to being a thorn in the political process. If we can scream in the streets then we can scream in the power arenas of politics or of the media as writers. Otherwise all our screaming will fall on unwilling/ignorant ears.
Peru, no, you are wrong. What can be done with shows like this is alert the people that these elitist scum aren't untouchable, that they aren't to be worshipped, that educated, informed people are so frustrated at them that they will scream at them publicly knowing that some commenter will try to deride the brave act of yelling truth to power.
Ok, think what you wish, but most of the time most people ignore those that are screaming in the streets. Or should I say they pay attention to the comotion but they are quick to disregard what you are trying to say by labeling you as a loon. Not only that they think that whoever says what you say must also be a loon.... the media just uses that against you by saying "crazy conspiracy nuts". I dont disagree with your views just your methods.
Go Moses go. But do not expose it in front of the educated secretive ones. People read action more than words sometimes. I totally agree with your points though.
dear joe for truth. you are a moron. the guy you are filming is one of the biggest anti government types in the world. he actually prevented domestic nuclear waste dumps through non profits he set up. you need to get a real job, and a clue. try that where i am from and you are bound to gain some weight in lead. dumbass. by the way i grew up with him and helped him start the non profits that protect you from toxic waste. way to be a total idiot guy. good luck
This guy has followed a driver too..I don't know who. Check out Mind Control Experiments or stalking.
He drove a dark colored truck. The driver says he's been following him for weeks. He has it on youtube. He slows down behind the vehicle-he says-to see what he does. The guy talks to the stalker.
@Andrew, last nite I read the posts about Urantia infiltration on the TruthactionDOTorg blog. and found them perfectly-put.
The Creepy Guy is creepy, and looks like he'd hang w/Devin Clark and Tim Whidden, who animated at least one of the planes. (Watch "911 Amateur") For more creeps to confront....
/watch?v=XW18k8EoJb4
Why's the guy at 1:00 wearing an earphone? And why are the screams looped at 1:36? Why are they recycled in...
the disinfo i was referring to was 'laser beams' - i never mentioned it.
But re: shanksville, have you seen the news footage and do you really think a jumbo jet caused that hole? If u havent seen it, google 'rare flight 93 footage'...can you explain to me why they found nothing bigger than a phonebook? I guess we'll start calling you the 'vaporizers'...
Absolutely I do believe that a jumbo jet went down there. Flight 93 was tracked, on radar, had a flight plan, etc. Google "Another 14 victims of Flight 93 identified". That info is not coming from the bush admin. The plane hit the ground at 500mph near vertical. I wouldn't expect much to be left, you would? One crap video from fox news of all places makes you think otherwise? If so, then where is flight 93?
You act like you know something about crashes. Have you ever seen a real crash scene? Do you have anything to compare the Flight 93 crash as a reference? You seem more intent on shilling than discussing facts.
Those who google operation northwoods please note what slpdisk got wrong: that it wasn't directed at people "inside the US" but a navy ship at sea. Yet another example of "truthers" being blatantly innacurate with a straw man argument. Anyway, it was a proposal that our government also smacked down and did NOT carry out, looks like the govt didn't really want to kill our people in the end!
Why not just suggest people read Operation Northwoods for themselves instead of taking your word for it?
While you are at it folks do a quick google for Operation Gladio and check out the attack on the USS Liberty. Don't let 10thave tell you what's up look for yourself.
Didn't I say those who GOOGLE operation northwoods? What is the problem you have with the truth? I just pointed out the errors and the misrepresentation of your so called "truth" movement claims, get over it.
Sheesh, even basic reading comprehension is too hard a task for you guys.
... don't generalize by lumpin me with that disinfo, 10thave. NOW who's going off-target? You claimed i call others 'gay' and support the laser beam garbage when i never said either. Anyway, i'm still curious about your thoughs on things like the fox news footage of shanksville? Do you really think a jumbo jet caused that hole?
What is the disinfo? The no planers? And then you ask me if I really think a jumbo jet caused the hole in shanksville? Let's see, that makes you a...wait for it....NO PLANER!!! The irony here never stops. I said "you deniers", not you personally. You personally are here defending denier viewpoints expressed even in this video, so I did lump you in with them. If you disavow that type of ad hominem I applaud you.
I'm not even completely sure what the truth is and I don't plan to contribute to anything till I am. A new investigation is critical to be sure, so I support your cause for now. All I'm saying is that your aggressive attitude might drive your goals away from you and not the opposite. Find a Public Relations guy or sth. like that to promote your cause. Do it in a more organized, professional way, contact other activist organisations etc. Think bigger if you have to.
have you seen how huge the nist docs are, the NCSTAR series? Do you dismiss ALL of that? You cherry pick one little quote? Even if they can't explain the FULL explanation -- here's another logical fallacy the "false dilemma" btw -- that in no way proves the 9/11 denier claims of CD, laser beams, whatever. So why did they fire him, and where's your proof?
You can't approach a mayor like that and expect a decent reply. Things don't work that way and you know that very well. You aren't showing them any respect or any sign of empathy/sympathy etc., you don't treat them like humans with emotions. You are just attacking and scaring them, obviously they'll try to avoid you. To be honest, it was disappointing for me to see that you guys are behind the 911truth movement.
"We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse"
btw,
I've never even SEEN Loose change, or the rebuttals, and I've never been on a loose change forum.
if steel need only weaken and not melt as you claim, why did the construction certifiers of the towers claim they could've definitely withstood the fires? They were saying NIST's story 'just didn't add up' back in 04. Now nist admits it too.
WD33 - Wrong. The "construction certifiers" (You mean UL, but they don't certify "construction", only materials) did NOT say that. Only Kevin Ryan said that in a letter, sent from a UL email addr, that suggested that was UL's position. Then UL fired him coz it was NOT their position. Then he sued them, and lost, the court dismissing all claims with prejudice. Now here you are repeating his long since debunked claims.
slpdisk -- great question. notice you said "believe in their hearts", not "can prove in a court". My answer is that their anti-american world view has completely distorted their ability to reason and think rationally. Learn what logical fallacies are and apply it to denier arguments. Really - how was Warren Buffett involved exactly? WHO placed the thermate, exactly, and when? How do you REALLY know any of this speculation is true? Because of loose change? puh-leeze.
Check out associated press.This article in full Posted on their site 30 min ago
By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion decidedly false pretenses."
slpdisk, that's not really news is it? Bush had a hardon to go to war with iraq, we all know. This, you may argue, proves intent on the part of bush, but imho he would have found a way no matter what. Remember, we were basically ALREADY at war with iraq since 1998. This in no way proves that warren buffett is a criminal or that we attacked ourselves on 9/11. Quite a stretch. Al quaeda did attack us before. or was the cole bombing from bush also *sigh*
A man that describes himself as the self proclaimed leader of the free world gives the American people "935" false statements on Iraq to join Israel in a holy war against the Arab countries and start what he referred to as WWIII. And you still believe anything that comes from that administration is credible. Hey buddy I have a bridge for sale.Thank god for fools like yourself it is what makes this all possible for these power mad tyrants.
10thave: Warren Buffett is a 911 criminal because his subsidiary companies were instrumental in allowing it to go down as it did. Netjets tracked flight 93 why? FlightSafety trained "hijackers". Offett AFB golf charity event who was there why? You won't study anyway who cares.
joefortruth -- aaah, now i see it. I've been wrong the whole time, it is now clear as day because of that brilliant gem of proof that I just didn't see before.....Warren Buffett went to a golf charity!!!! You really blew the doors off this NWO scam with that one. When are you bringing that to the grand jury, they will surely convict him! Study? you mean like dylan who can't even get into college?
I think you do better with cats than with people. Continue on with your pleasant slumber. Drink the fluoride, lead is nutritious, the injections are healthy, the government loves you, there is a law requiring you to pay federal income tax.
You seem to need a good, long cry on the shoulder of someone who loves you.
Yeah I will joe. Don't you worry about me. You give me great amusement, you deniers. Instead worry about yourself, when in 10 years you are still screeching about 9/11 was an inside job down at the street corner. And while you are at it, stop paying your taxes, and tell the courts about your legal opinion on the 16th amendment of the constitution. They'll listen! That'll go far, einstein. And remember, when you get out of jail, you can go on social security because the govt loves you.
10thave - why dont you state for the record these so called 'long since debunked anomalies'?
You're the unpatriotic one pal, for letting a bunch of crooks tricking your foolish self. Avery and Wearechange are helping victims families and first responders. What have you ever done for them?
If only I could in 500 chars. Mark Roberts already did it, google loose change guide. If you deniers could put together a convincing rebuttal to him, you would have by now, but mostly when he comes up on the loose change forum, you just call him gay. Which proves you can't. If you were patriotic, you wouldn't push this "guilty until proven innocent" concept.
ok Warren let me give you just one, great example of a straw man logical fallacy. That's when you put words in someone else's mouth. "jet fuel is not hot enough to melt steel". Did NIST ever say that? NO!!! Anyway, more crap like plastic was burning than jet fuel, your own denier photos show that. The steel only needed to WEAKEN, not "melt". See? It's easy! Now go deflect about molten metal found after the collapse like I know you will because you all never stay on topic.
you deniers might also want to think about this before your next "action". All the police need is to perceive you as a threat. And it seems security here rightly did just that. Outside of your cult, you all come across as unhinged, lone wolf types. I hope you come to your senses and do something productive with your lives one day.
hey 10th ave, u seem like a lonely individual that wasnt hugged by their parents as a child. as u sit on the computer ignorantly trying to bash the 9/11 movement, true, red-blooded patriots are standing up to the injustices of this world and all your feeble mind could fester up was to call us crazy? heres a hug <<<
Is it patriotic to slander people like Buffett when you have no proof? Is it patriotic to blame america first based on long-since debunked anomalies? To profit off of 9/11 like dylan does when selling loose change? If you were REALLY standing up to the injustices of the world, then louder than words would be a nonprofit, and you would be helping the needy instead of attacking the successful.
Forget these guys look at pilots 4 truth or Architects and engineers for 911 truth and ask yourself why would highly intelligent professional people put their careers on the line to chase a story they didn't believe in their heart was true.
We unfortunately live in a time where 3000 people get murdered and people ridicule the ones that want to know what happened. You might want to ask yourself is there something wrong with this picture?In this day and age apathy will get you nowhere.
No I ridicule the ones who DENY what happened. 9/11 was NOT an inside job. Get over it. Move on! You absolve bin laden of guilt and extend the circle of blame to people like Warren Buffett, with zero proof. Take a look in the mirror and see how apathetic you are about anything outside of your tiny disintegrating cult.
Look up Benazair Bhutto Pakistani president talking to david frost on BBC Bin Boogeyman has been dead for a long time..You have been watching war propaganda videos, .......sucker!
Yeah, I guess I just meant that the dude seems like he might go a little too far and cause a violent situation, which is what the guys with guns, tasers, batons, radios and jails would love. I like the dudes conviction I just hope he can keep his intensity in check. But keep up the good work. I am over here. We all gotta fight for our freedom.
Sometimes cointelpro types want you to know that they are following you. Its intended to be intimidating. Personaly, I think he just recognized Dylan and he was trying to be an anti-9/11 truth paparazzi. Great video. Wheres the out-takes? :)
great confrontaion guys. as a member of wearechangeNYC, our truth squad experienced an eerily similar situation with a "creepy" guy on the streets of NY. The guy wew ran into acted almost exactly the same way as the dude in this video and when he was confronted he his remarks were that of "dont worry who i work for" as he filmed us with his digital camera. that's why i have no doubt in my mind that the man you guys saw was definitely and agent. he just happened to be a shitty one!
That one dude has a lot of energy, kind of a loose cannon. I like him. As far as the creepy dude, I think he was just a queer cruising for balls. Assuming he is a fed and such is a little ridiculous I think. Dylan, I love Final Cut. Also, be careful of that crazy guy with all the energy. Good job fellas.
That one dude has a lot of energy, kind of a loose cannon. I like him. As far as the creepy dude, I think he was just a queer cruising for balls. Assuming he is a fed and such is a little ridiculous I think. Dylan, I love Final Cut. Also, be careful of that crazy guy with all the energy. Good job fellas.
its up to us to do something. stop sitting behind here and ranting. it was inside job and bush was behind it. I guess were to busy hearing about charlie sheen
emeraldgreenman 10 months ago
lol "would a normal person stand there "
twistypink 2 years ago
Hey this is Creepy Guy
I was the just hoping to get a chance to address Mrs. Clinton about her stance on gay marriage. I did not bother to watch the whole video as I have better things to do but if they played all of what they video tape you will notice they did not follow me into the "hood" where I often feed the homeless and defended the poor against police oppression. They would have their a** beat by the hookers i give condoms too and the crackheads make sure the police don't abuse. LOVE DPM
davidmaddon 2 years ago
@davidmaddon
tell em davey wow these are the guys that make hard working protesters look like idiots. they create more work for us and solve nothing. wow the utter stupidity. i wonder how much his daddy paid for his camera and his boyfriend's clothes?
---shag nasty baby!
MrStudiousjames 1 year ago
Hey akbarsfez I want to make sure we are talking about the same person. I'm talking about David P. Maddon. P as in Poor Poor Pitiful Me. You need to recount your douchebags. I believe you will find two more. They are losers too. Losers attract losers. That's why you and Dave are buddies. I'm sure anyone that looked at your videos on youtube would agree with me. Just to prove I'm not what you said I am let me help you out. Dochebag is two words. Well maybe not in Loser lingo.
MrLoserpatrol 2 years ago
Woah! Who pissed in your Post Toasties? I have no idea who you are or why on earth you have a beef with Dave, but there's no need to be such an utter prick, yeah?
akbarsfez 2 years ago
LMAO!!!! Omg, that's my buddy Dave Maddon in the polar bear sweater. Okay, if anyone would get a massive kick out of harassing these two douchebags by doing nothing, it's Dave. He's not an undercover anything. He's a funny, smart dude who's into subversive theatrics and probably went home and laughed his ass off that these guys were freaked out by him.
akbarsfez 2 years ago
Dave, man, come back to Oklahoma, so we can toast your Youtube famousness. And don't listen to that asshole Loserpatrol.
-Stretch
akbarsfez 2 years ago
Who does he work for? What a stupid question. He doesn't work. He is like a tick. He has to have a host to survive. Hey David how are those nice stolls across Hwy 9. Alot of effort just to get high. BIG LOSER!
MrLoserpatrol 2 years ago
David Maddon is nothing but a big loser!
MrLoserpatrol 2 years ago
These lads are dreadfully embarrassing in this video, especially the short-haired hoody.
Cringeworthy.
cquilty1 2 years ago
LOL you stupid people who say that these guys have something to hide... no one listens to you.
if this guy had been sincere, he would have answered what he was doing.
NastyGreaser 2 years ago
I have known Dave Maddon aka "creepy Guy" for 15 years and he exudes more pure class in an off day than you guys will ever scrape up during your entire lives
zandrite 2 years ago
so what do you have to hide?
it appeared to piss you off that he wasn't shaken by your harrassment.
ariestheramone 3 years ago
your reaction to his picture-taking is what was creepy.
ariestheramone 3 years ago
This had to be an act cuz' I know the guy who "plays" the creepy guy. He is David Maddon he is High School friend from my days back in Oklahoma. He went to SF to go to school for fashion design and recently went back to Oklahoma. I know him enough to know he would'nt be doing anything like that. I know for a fact he is not CIA/FBI/Undercover person. He is very liberal and as a Buddhist hold views very much against war. And holds some great contempt for the Bush "wag the dog" war machine.
briannga 3 years ago
AAMZING GOOD JOB GUYS
Soulfab 3 years ago
what a freak
Sellos23 3 years ago
He doesn't care if you call him creepy. He probably makes like $60.00 an hour working for the super wealthy.
Rockguitarnow 3 years ago
This is all an act. Dylan Avery is an actor.
sparkoflifemedia 3 years ago
i kept watching thinking something decent was going to happen... i was wrong...
pritchard12 3 years ago
It's import to investigate things that don't add up, but try to be more clever and less indecent or you will LOSE support with these pugnacious tactics.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
My friend is going to be a Canadian lawyer. Neat jobs for that career.
Sept. 11 was my grad. yr. I was (so) sad about it. Still am. Families lost.
Many identified as dead might have ID and purses not found yet! The missing people are kept and knapped down bellow the building, My Mom and I both thought that day. There is a ground below the building! An inside job. yes
viewer2fun 3 years ago
My friend is going to be a Canadian lawyer. Neat jobs for that career.
Sept. 11 was my grad. yr. I was (so) sad about it. Still am. Families lost.
Many identified as dead might have ID and purses not found yet! The missing people are kept and knapped down bellow the building, My Mom and I both thought that day. There is a ground below the building! An inside job. yes
viewer2fun 3 years ago
I want to know these guys. They are possibly Christian? They stand up.
I know proof. This is true almost enough to write an adult essay of it. It's in youtube under Mind Control experiments. later mentions CIA, Pres. Bush. Hilary made a common story up with Bill Clinton.
One lady speaks with an FBI. She's not ill, just has multiple personality-they call it.
I know more than this...Check out 911 truth about U.S. gas saved being hidden and gas prices rising, enough gas for two hundred yrs.
viewer2fun 3 years ago
you just wasted my time. but the undecover cup was funny. he was just a random guy wating for something.
Hansomjoe 3 years ago
the sex trade is the biggest business in the world...discouraging hay, I got a Business diploma as well.
Bush is head of the CIA cause if CIA won't back Bush up then Bush can back himself up do ya see. Cause Bush is the head of U.S. and the police. police?
viewer2fun 3 years ago
you just wasted my time. but the undecover cup was funny. he was just a random guy wating for something.
Hansomjoe 3 years ago
Whoa y'all need jobs...
f-ing dorks
matthewelync 3 years ago 3
they're possibly in school.
Hay to Joefortruth........
youtube says when ya type in White House sex slaves...one lady in blond hair mentions it. And says what it was like under an experiment similar to the one in Montreal in 1970 with a mental doctor who told a guy he killed his mother-he didn't kill her but he found her.
viewer2fun 3 years ago
what was all that about? Warren Buffett's a good guy?
jack147147 3 years ago
There is absolutely nothing that can be done with shows like this. I respect everyones desire to change our present circumstances. But people in power will never be intimidated by a few random people screaming things at them. Best thing anyone of us can do is dedicate our lives to being a thorn in the political process. If we can scream in the streets then we can scream in the power arenas of politics or of the media as writers. Otherwise all our screaming will fall on unwilling/ignorant ears.
peruvianlover82 3 years ago
Peru, no, you are wrong. What can be done with shows like this is alert the people that these elitist scum aren't untouchable, that they aren't to be worshipped, that educated, informed people are so frustrated at them that they will scream at them publicly knowing that some commenter will try to deride the brave act of yelling truth to power.
joefortruth 3 years ago
Ok, think what you wish, but most of the time most people ignore those that are screaming in the streets. Or should I say they pay attention to the comotion but they are quick to disregard what you are trying to say by labeling you as a loon. Not only that they think that whoever says what you say must also be a loon.... the media just uses that against you by saying "crazy conspiracy nuts". I dont disagree with your views just your methods.
peruvianlover82 3 years ago
Go Moses go. But do not expose it in front of the educated secretive ones. People read action more than words sometimes. I totally agree with your points though.
viewer2fun 3 years ago
@peruvianlover82
dear joe for truth. you are a moron. the guy you are filming is one of the biggest anti government types in the world. he actually prevented domestic nuclear waste dumps through non profits he set up. you need to get a real job, and a clue. try that where i am from and you are bound to gain some weight in lead. dumbass. by the way i grew up with him and helped him start the non profits that protect you from toxic waste. way to be a total idiot guy. good luck
MrStudiousjames 1 year ago
what a stupid boy.
lasvegas71 3 years ago
What a bunch of faggots
WuTang61489 3 years ago 3
WuTangSucka, yes we are, why don't you come get some? ;*
joefortruth 3 years ago
I would nock the guy out if I was walking and someone was yeling undercover cop behind me
lti12 3 years ago 2
hahaha Iti12, of course you would... UNLESS YOU WERE AN UNDERCOVER COP!!
joefortruth 3 years ago
This guy has followed a driver too..I don't know who. Check out Mind Control Experiments or stalking.
He drove a dark colored truck. The driver says he's been following him for weeks. He has it on youtube. He slows down behind the vehicle-he says-to see what he does. The guy talks to the stalker.
viewer2fun 3 years ago
You are some very annoying children. You must have grown up without fathers.
xms32 3 years ago
Other highly suspicious "photographers": Michael Hezarkhani, Scott Meyers and the guy in the [BowlingFor]Columbine shot...
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
@Andrew, last nite I read the posts about Urantia infiltration on the TruthactionDOTorg blog. and found them perfectly-put.
The Creepy Guy is creepy, and looks like he'd hang w/Devin Clark and Tim Whidden, who animated at least one of the planes. (Watch "911 Amateur") For more creeps to confront....
/watch?v=XW18k8EoJb4
Why's the guy at 1:00 wearing an earphone? And why are the screams looped at 1:36? Why are they recycled in...
/watch?v=FAhIcv1bqyg
?
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
the disinfo i was referring to was 'laser beams' - i never mentioned it.
But re: shanksville, have you seen the news footage and do you really think a jumbo jet caused that hole? If u havent seen it, google 'rare flight 93 footage'...can you explain to me why they found nothing bigger than a phonebook? I guess we'll start calling you the 'vaporizers'...
WarrenDemontague33 4 years ago
Absolutely I do believe that a jumbo jet went down there. Flight 93 was tracked, on radar, had a flight plan, etc. Google "Another 14 victims of Flight 93 identified". That info is not coming from the bush admin. The plane hit the ground at 500mph near vertical. I wouldn't expect much to be left, you would? One crap video from fox news of all places makes you think otherwise? If so, then where is flight 93?
10thave 4 years ago
You act like you know something about crashes. Have you ever seen a real crash scene? Do you have anything to compare the Flight 93 crash as a reference? You seem more intent on shilling than discussing facts.
cry0ut 3 years ago
Those who google operation northwoods please note what slpdisk got wrong: that it wasn't directed at people "inside the US" but a navy ship at sea. Yet another example of "truthers" being blatantly innacurate with a straw man argument. Anyway, it was a proposal that our government also smacked down and did NOT carry out, looks like the govt didn't really want to kill our people in the end!
10thave 4 years ago
10thave,
Why not just suggest people read Operation Northwoods for themselves instead of taking your word for it?
While you are at it folks do a quick google for Operation Gladio and check out the attack on the USS Liberty. Don't let 10thave tell you what's up look for yourself.
Truthstorm911 4 years ago
Didn't I say those who GOOGLE operation northwoods? What is the problem you have with the truth? I just pointed out the errors and the misrepresentation of your so called "truth" movement claims, get over it.
Sheesh, even basic reading comprehension is too hard a task for you guys.
10thave 4 years ago
Anybody Interested in why or how our own government would kill people inside the U.S. and what for here is the link
" operation North woods"
Slpdisk 4 years ago
"CD, laser beams, whatever"
... don't generalize by lumpin me with that disinfo, 10thave. NOW who's going off-target? You claimed i call others 'gay' and support the laser beam garbage when i never said either. Anyway, i'm still curious about your thoughs on things like the fox news footage of shanksville? Do you really think a jumbo jet caused that hole?
WarrenDemontague33 4 years ago
What is the disinfo? The no planers? And then you ask me if I really think a jumbo jet caused the hole in shanksville? Let's see, that makes you a...wait for it....NO PLANER!!! The irony here never stops. I said "you deniers", not you personally. You personally are here defending denier viewpoints expressed even in this video, so I did lump you in with them. If you disavow that type of ad hominem I applaud you.
10thave 4 years ago
I applaud you boys for making a stand.
sherimcdoogle 4 years ago 2
I'm not even completely sure what the truth is and I don't plan to contribute to anything till I am. A new investigation is critical to be sure, so I support your cause for now. All I'm saying is that your aggressive attitude might drive your goals away from you and not the opposite. Find a Public Relations guy or sth. like that to promote your cause. Do it in a more organized, professional way, contact other activist organisations etc. Think bigger if you have to.
sadunkal 4 years ago
haha - yeah, thats why they fired him...i notice you've avoided the nist quote.
WarrenDemontague33 4 years ago
WD33, only 500 chars man, cut me some slack lol.
have you seen how huge the nist docs are, the NCSTAR series? Do you dismiss ALL of that? You cherry pick one little quote? Even if they can't explain the FULL explanation -- here's another logical fallacy the "false dilemma" btw -- that in no way proves the 9/11 denier claims of CD, laser beams, whatever. So why did they fire him, and where's your proof?
10thave 4 years ago
You can't approach a mayor like that and expect a decent reply. Things don't work that way and you know that very well. You aren't showing them any respect or any sign of empathy/sympathy etc., you don't treat them like humans with emotions. You are just attacking and scaring them, obviously they'll try to avoid you. To be honest, it was disappointing for me to see that you guys are behind the 911truth movement.
sadunkal 4 years ago
NIST in 2007:
"We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse"
btw,
I've never even SEEN Loose change, or the rebuttals, and I've never been on a loose change forum.
if steel need only weaken and not melt as you claim, why did the construction certifiers of the towers claim they could've definitely withstood the fires? They were saying NIST's story 'just didn't add up' back in 04. Now nist admits it too.
WarrenDemontague33 4 years ago
WD33 - Wrong. The "construction certifiers" (You mean UL, but they don't certify "construction", only materials) did NOT say that. Only Kevin Ryan said that in a letter, sent from a UL email addr, that suggested that was UL's position. Then UL fired him coz it was NOT their position. Then he sued them, and lost, the court dismissing all claims with prejudice. Now here you are repeating his long since debunked claims.
10thave 4 years ago
slpdisk -- great question. notice you said "believe in their hearts", not "can prove in a court". My answer is that their anti-american world view has completely distorted their ability to reason and think rationally. Learn what logical fallacies are and apply it to denier arguments. Really - how was Warren Buffett involved exactly? WHO placed the thermate, exactly, and when? How do you REALLY know any of this speculation is true? Because of loose change? puh-leeze.
10thave 4 years ago
Check out associated press.This article in full Posted on their site 30 min ago
By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion decidedly false pretenses."
Slpdisk 4 years ago
slpdisk, that's not really news is it? Bush had a hardon to go to war with iraq, we all know. This, you may argue, proves intent on the part of bush, but imho he would have found a way no matter what. Remember, we were basically ALREADY at war with iraq since 1998. This in no way proves that warren buffett is a criminal or that we attacked ourselves on 9/11. Quite a stretch. Al quaeda did attack us before. or was the cole bombing from bush also *sigh*
10thave 4 years ago
A man that describes himself as the self proclaimed leader of the free world gives the American people "935" false statements on Iraq to join Israel in a holy war against the Arab countries and start what he referred to as WWIII. And you still believe anything that comes from that administration is credible. Hey buddy I have a bridge for sale.Thank god for fools like yourself it is what makes this all possible for these power mad tyrants.
Slpdisk 4 years ago
10thave: Warren Buffett is a 911 criminal because his subsidiary companies were instrumental in allowing it to go down as it did. Netjets tracked flight 93 why? FlightSafety trained "hijackers". Offett AFB golf charity event who was there why? You won't study anyway who cares.
joefortruth 4 years ago
joefortruth -- aaah, now i see it. I've been wrong the whole time, it is now clear as day because of that brilliant gem of proof that I just didn't see before.....Warren Buffett went to a golf charity!!!! You really blew the doors off this NWO scam with that one. When are you bringing that to the grand jury, they will surely convict him! Study? you mean like dylan who can't even get into college?
10thave 4 years ago
I think you do better with cats than with people. Continue on with your pleasant slumber. Drink the fluoride, lead is nutritious, the injections are healthy, the government loves you, there is a law requiring you to pay federal income tax.
You seem to need a good, long cry on the shoulder of someone who loves you.
joefortruth 4 years ago
Yeah I will joe. Don't you worry about me. You give me great amusement, you deniers. Instead worry about yourself, when in 10 years you are still screeching about 9/11 was an inside job down at the street corner. And while you are at it, stop paying your taxes, and tell the courts about your legal opinion on the 16th amendment of the constitution. They'll listen! That'll go far, einstein. And remember, when you get out of jail, you can go on social security because the govt loves you.
10thave 4 years ago
10thave - why dont you state for the record these so called 'long since debunked anomalies'?
You're the unpatriotic one pal, for letting a bunch of crooks tricking your foolish self. Avery and Wearechange are helping victims families and first responders. What have you ever done for them?
WarrenDemontague33 4 years ago
If only I could in 500 chars. Mark Roberts already did it, google loose change guide. If you deniers could put together a convincing rebuttal to him, you would have by now, but mostly when he comes up on the loose change forum, you just call him gay. Which proves you can't. If you were patriotic, you wouldn't push this "guilty until proven innocent" concept.
10thave 4 years ago
ok Warren let me give you just one, great example of a straw man logical fallacy. That's when you put words in someone else's mouth. "jet fuel is not hot enough to melt steel". Did NIST ever say that? NO!!! Anyway, more crap like plastic was burning than jet fuel, your own denier photos show that. The steel only needed to WEAKEN, not "melt". See? It's easy! Now go deflect about molten metal found after the collapse like I know you will because you all never stay on topic.
10thave 4 years ago
Who was that beady-eyed creep in the walmart sweater?
Slpdisk 4 years ago
Great work guys, thank you for your true patriotism, keep up the good work!
KingKil33 4 years ago
you deniers might also want to think about this before your next "action". All the police need is to perceive you as a threat. And it seems security here rightly did just that. Outside of your cult, you all come across as unhinged, lone wolf types. I hope you come to your senses and do something productive with your lives one day.
10thave 4 years ago
hey 10th ave, u seem like a lonely individual that wasnt hugged by their parents as a child. as u sit on the computer ignorantly trying to bash the 9/11 movement, true, red-blooded patriots are standing up to the injustices of this world and all your feeble mind could fester up was to call us crazy? heres a hug <<<
tonedog80 4 years ago
Is it patriotic to slander people like Buffett when you have no proof? Is it patriotic to blame america first based on long-since debunked anomalies? To profit off of 9/11 like dylan does when selling loose change? If you were REALLY standing up to the injustices of the world, then louder than words would be a nonprofit, and you would be helping the needy instead of attacking the successful.
10thave 4 years ago
Forget these guys look at pilots 4 truth or Architects and engineers for 911 truth and ask yourself why would highly intelligent professional people put their careers on the line to chase a story they didn't believe in their heart was true.
Slpdisk 4 years ago
We unfortunately live in a time where 3000 people get murdered and people ridicule the ones that want to know what happened. You might want to ask yourself is there something wrong with this picture?In this day and age apathy will get you nowhere.
Slpdisk 4 years ago
No I ridicule the ones who DENY what happened. 9/11 was NOT an inside job. Get over it. Move on! You absolve bin laden of guilt and extend the circle of blame to people like Warren Buffett, with zero proof. Take a look in the mirror and see how apathetic you are about anything outside of your tiny disintegrating cult.
10thave 4 years ago
Look up Benazair Bhutto Pakistani president talking to david frost on BBC Bin Boogeyman has been dead for a long time..You have been watching war propaganda videos, .......sucker!
Slpdisk 4 years ago
Wow that was amazing -- you all accomplished... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
i love it how some of the commenters here resort to calling the "creepy" guy gay -- really shows off your open minded, all-inclusive perspective.
The parallels with this video "crazy scientology followers" /watch?v=pPol_m8wm8Y are pretty ironic -- the 9/11 denier cult is just like scientology.
10thave 4 years ago
the guy with a lot of energy, andrew i believe, is an asset not a liability. we need more people like that in the movement
roboplant 4 years ago
Yeah, I guess I just meant that the dude seems like he might go a little too far and cause a violent situation, which is what the guys with guns, tasers, batons, radios and jails would love. I like the dudes conviction I just hope he can keep his intensity in check. But keep up the good work. I am over here. We all gotta fight for our freedom.
ragnbull 4 years ago
ragnbull, Andrew is a Marine. Thats how our boys roll.
joefortruth 4 years ago
Sometimes cointelpro types want you to know that they are following you. Its intended to be intimidating. Personaly, I think he just recognized Dylan and he was trying to be an anti-9/11 truth paparazzi. Great video. Wheres the out-takes? :)
beckyfromkentucky 4 years ago
Great video! I wish I was there.
beckyfromkentucky 4 years ago
great confrontaion guys. as a member of wearechangeNYC, our truth squad experienced an eerily similar situation with a "creepy" guy on the streets of NY. The guy wew ran into acted almost exactly the same way as the dude in this video and when he was confronted he his remarks were that of "dont worry who i work for" as he filmed us with his digital camera. that's why i have no doubt in my mind that the man you guys saw was definitely and agent. he just happened to be a shitty one!
tonedog80 4 years ago 3
they really suck at being agents, like come on! like they cant notice them.
JUKIO01 4 years ago
That one dude has a lot of energy, kind of a loose cannon. I like him. As far as the creepy dude, I think he was just a queer cruising for balls. Assuming he is a fed and such is a little ridiculous I think. Dylan, I love Final Cut. Also, be careful of that crazy guy with all the energy. Good job fellas.
ragnbull 4 years ago
"i don't work for anybody you need to know about"
"i have no opinion on what you're doing"
doesn't sound like a queer cruising for balls to me
roboplant 4 years ago
That one dude has a lot of energy, kind of a loose cannon. I like him. As far as the creepy dude, I think he was just a queer cruising for balls. Assuming he is a fed and such is a little ridiculous I think. Dylan, I love Final Cut. Also, be careful of that crazy guy with all the energy. Good job fellas.
ragnbull 4 years ago
the creepy guy is a gay
AntiFluoride 4 years ago
wow! is that guy suppose to be an under cover agent or somethng? wow he is really bad at it, he got caught.
JUKIO01 4 years ago
warren buffet is a traitor.
wearechangela 4 years ago
undercover scum
bbruhwiler8 4 years ago