@shanedk you retarded liar. no they didn't. dmcas was caused by atheists like you. you government shill. you are pushing government propaganda. you preach hate to believers and those that know the truth that nasa is a bunch liars
@animefan2k9 "dmcas was caused by atheists like you."
Outright LIE. The FALSE DMCA's of Hovind's organization are well-documented. So are Jarrah White's. You can't refute either the atheists or the scientists who say we landed on the moon on a factual basis, so you resort to these pathetic ad hominems and deny the CONFIRMED PERJURY of those who you support.
@Shanedk- Why do you go after Kent Hovind so much? If I were you I'd go after Ken Ham ALOT because Mr Hovinds "degrees" are pretend. Mr. Ham actually "has" a degree in "environmental biology"(what ever that is). Is that supposed to be more or less sound than my BSCJ (forensics)?
I consider Ham the worst lyer in the world, and he goes out of his way to lie to little kids
@dj092768 Because he made LOTS of videos and speeches and put them all online copyright-free, so we could use them with impunity to show how wrong he is (or so he thought, until his organization illegally reneged on the the deal and performed BLATANT PERJURY by having these videos removed for DMCA violations...)
Kent went to prison for refusing to pay into Social Security for his employees. big deal, SSI is broke and worthless for most of us. He was ahead of his time. The POSTER of this is the true idiot.
I have to be honest and say I am slightly offended by this... just like I have to say, I also thought it was vaguely funny. I personally dislike Justin Bieber... a lot. But I don't go around making crude videos about him and lying. I am sorry if you disliked this message, but I think I have the right to voice my opinion, just as you did with this video.
@ArtIsMyVoice At least Justin Bieber hasn't gone around deliberately misinforming people about science to push his personal agenda and (more germane to this video) hasn't gone around saying homosexuality is evil.
@shanedk Uh... yeah. I should know that more than anyone. I AM homosexual. But that doesn't mean I'm going to go making things up about this poor man just to make myself feel better! =(
@shanedk Yes indeed, but still... I feel bad for him. I'm sorry if my opinion offended you. but... I just can't stand the thought of someone being away from their family and ridiculed like he has... I'm sorry.
@animefan2k9 Mathematics pwned Jarrah White. I'd explain it to you, but I doubt that a moon hoaxtard, creationist, white power, middle school drop out like you would understand.
@johnrainrules there no way man landed on the moon. they would have been xrayed to death on the moon surface most of what nasa does is a fraud.. shaned k is a proven liar. go read up on the van allen radiation belts.
@animefan2k9 You do know the Astronauts didn't leave the ship naked right? Also looking at all the white power shit on your channel calling anything on Shane's channel hate is absurd.
@vspqbd My favorite is the video he favorited that said "Race and I.Q. Blacks Can't Accel" With excel spelled wrong. My wife is from the Bahamas and is a member of MENSA. I'm sure she's a lot smarter than both this genius and the guy that made that video.
animefan2k9 you are not a winner at the game of life.
@animefan2k9 "i guess you didn't look up x-rays from the moon surface."
Well as far as I'm aware all of the astronauts that spent time on the moon are still alive.
Or are you one of those conspiracy theorists who think that the moon landing was faked, 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government and they have aliens in Area 52?
@ArtIsMyVoice No we should'nt make **** up just to make ourselves feel better. I happen to like Elvis and Buddy Holly, and JB, and Selena, and Savage Garden, and on and on. Kent Hovind was making his own **** up.
He is in prison legitmately? or was he in prison for a misinterpretation, or for a software glitch? or for tempting to have an opinioon of his own in this gov.? Not a protester, I fully uphold the confines of the laws, agree with paying taxes, however, it has been made so I am not allowed to pay them for some reson, especially on the property. so why? not sure, questions I have to get answered as to why our finances have been hit so bad. anyone can think of many things.we need facts
@boxerpup7 The facts are there, and open for all to see. He DELIBERATELY engaged in FIFTY-THREE different counts of fraud. LIARS like you don't want to admit it, and say things like they couldn't cite the laws he broke (they did) or that they didn't have proof (they did) or that he wasn't allowed to defend himself (he was).
@boxerpup7 Do you even know what Kent Hovind said? He said that everything he owned, the money, all of his possessions, and everything else in the world, were property of god, and therefore he was not subject to paying taxes to the US government. HE ADMITTED IT, you delusional fucktard! And that's not even the half of it.
Kent Hovind is absolute scum, and he got exactly what he deserved. I hope he's being brutally sodomized in prison throughout his entire sentence. FUCK HIM.
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate than the word "gay".
A person does not need religion, hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important, qualitative differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption.
Homosexual activists, with complete support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims and martyrs; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
sluge satanske,kako najboljega ismevate tako vam bog dao,Hovind je najveci amerikanac koji je ziveo ikada,i vidi gde je sad,majku da vam jebem masonsku i novo svetsko poredacku
@davidmas0 You have just crossed the line into a Rule #5 violation. NO TEXTBOOK today supports Hackel's theory. YOU ARE A LIAR, and this sort of libelous comment is NOT allowed on this channel.
Hey everyone. First I wanted to say sorry to you and the owner of this channel for spamming. My big sister was murderd 3yrs ago and nothing was ever done about it. She left behind 3 wonderful children that me and my parents raise.I wrote a song about her to help get attention to our cause of a closer investigation into her death (there is a link in the vid description) We dont want money or your information, just prayers and support please!
he was proven wrong a long time ago just for some reason nobody (like you) stops to listen to the truth. try the videos "we people laugh at creationist" a few videos in he exposes the lies in hovinds claims.
I do listen to the truth, that is why I believe in God, you might think he has been proved wrong, but I dont agree with you. evolution was proven wrong over 100 years ago and still is being proven wrong today, but stubborn people wont accept it. evolution is a Godless religion, it is not science, as it is not proven, a theory, with a simple formula of millions of fairytale years to hide the fact it didnt happen. you see, people believe it happened based on faith, not fact.
Evolution was not proven wrong that is the problem. 98% of all scientist believe that the evidence is solid. If they didn't have facts they would not believe it that is the way science works. they are not "stubborn" you are for ignoring the facts and sticking your fingers in your ears. as soon as you start really looking at your religon you will see what a fail it is. That is what I did you see i was a christian but i did the major sin, i started to ask questions and think.
evolution has been proven wrong, in fact, evolution was never proven right, as it has always been a theory. 98% of scientists believe that the evidence is solid? what evidence? and what source did you get 98% from, or did you just think that up? And no they dont believe it based on evidence, they believed it because the idea of God existing means there is rules which get in the way of their own personal agenda. you say you were a Christian? sounds to me like you never knew God.
my friend you have not a clue of what you speak. do not post me if you are not going to take the time to read up on what you clearly have no idea about. no proven? and who tells you this? the scientist that promote it? or the lame ass religious freaks scared out of their gourd that the are proven for the fools they are?
im not your friend, and believe me i know more than you think. do you even know what the defintion of science is? ive studied evolution and the Bible till i was blue, red and purple in the face and believe me it is not a proven fact. you need to think a lot more
"That is what I did you see i was a christian but i did the major sin, i started to ask questions and think."
Well thats funny, because i used to believe in the evolution theory based on what people and even my own Davd told me about it, but when i found God i investigated it and the more i found out about the evolution theory, the more I was convinced it was a fairytale invented by a man. the more i grew to knew God and learn evolution the more i realised evolution wasnt true.
evolution is not scientific, if you want to believe that then that is up to you but i will stick with God. If you really think you were a Christian, then im sorry but i beleive you just thought you were a Christian, dont worry ive met many people who thought they were Christians but werent. Scripture in the Bible helps us to know who is and who isnt, and i will the Bible's advice on that one. there are also 6 different meanings of evolution, which one do you mean?
why call me a retard? is that because you have nothing better to say? i said it is not scientific because it cant be scientific proven, which it hasnt been. go get an education? hahahahahaha why should i even waste my time with you? do you even know what the 6 different meanings of evolution are?
it is funny you say that, because the textbooks that teach evolution, dont teach people to think, they actually teach them to not think at all. some that i have read are very arrogant in stressing how mcuh a fact evolution is even though it is an unproven theory. saying something is fact and proven doesnt mean it is, man can lie and be wrong, so how can he be trusted? God cant lie and be wrong, so God can be trusted which is why i trust him
@davidmas0 Through evidence of these different types: paleontology (fossil record), geology/chemistry (radiocarbon dating), biogeography (distributions of organisms throughout the world), comparative anatomy (anatomical structures of flora and fauna), genetics (DNA, traits, inheritance, genetic sequences), embryology (similarity of embryos of different species, special structures, inheritance), zoology & ethology (animal behavior, natural selection, adaptation), and more.
@davidmas0 1. Not a coherent criticism. Transitional fossils may not prove evolution on their own, but they corroborate findings in other disciplines 2. See asa3[dot]org/ASA/resources/Wiens[dot]html for a good explanation of radiometric dating accuracy by a Christian no less 3. Biochemists gradually find support for prebiotic self-assembly, (Center for Chemical Evolution) 4. A flood wouldn't account for layers' different fossils, or polar icecaps (wtf?) 5. Only a bad designer (see vagus nerve)
1) Especially when they predict in advance where the transitionals should be found, both location and stratum, as they did with Tiktaalik.
3. See also the work of Dr. Jack Szostak.
5. It doesn't even do that, since comparative anatomy shows that similar structures ONLY have similar designs when they are related; in unrelated lineages the design is COMPLETELY different.
DNA (DNA proves a powerful creator as it is far too complexed and organised to have originated by chance, also inheritance can only be select from genes that already exist, which actually in itself disproves the idea we can evolve from different kinds of animals, chemical soup etcc.. although different species or (kinds) can adapt to their environments but they still remain the same kind, but adpating into a completely different kind of animal requires new genes to be created.
7. embryology (Ernest Haeckel(German Scientist) faked his drawings of the embryos. (this was discovered by Professor Wilhelm in 1874) . today’s technology has discovered that Haeckel’s drawings were incorrect and the embryo’s are not similar. Haeckel was charged with fraud by five professors and convicted by a university court. His deceit was exposed in "Haeckel’s Frauds and Forgeries," a 1915 book by J. Assmuth and Ernest R. Hull, who quoted 19 leading authorities of the day. )
@davidmas0 Good thing modern embryology doesn't rely on Haeckel as his "ontology recapitulates phylogeny" hasn't been accepted by biologists in over a century...
zoology & ethology (natural selection as i have said does not prove evolution from soup into many different kinds of animals, but actually disproves it. The reason is, natural selection can only select from genetic information in the gene pool that already exists. for an animal to evolve into a human requires new genes to be created,and it is not scientifically observed or proven that new genes can be created. species can adapt to their environments, but these adaptions are limited.
@davidmas0 random mutations cause the change, natural selection the best mutations being picked.luck does play a role.Did u fall asleep in science class?
@shanedk thats what i said though. random mutations take place and these can be benificial or not. what i said didnt eliminate this. im sooo happy i got a reply from u though:DDDDDDDDDDDD
@shanedk it does. Its effectlively luck(chance) which decides whether or not a coding error leads to a benifitial mutation or not. Things like natural disasters and predation are affected by luck. e.g a lion goes for 1 zebra in a herd. Sure charecteristics play a role but there is a small luck factor. This luck factor is minimised over a long period of time and is near neglegable when considering a timescale of millions of years.However, the initial comment made was not over a large timescale.
@rahulpower You said nothing I hadn't already responded to. Repeating the same wrong claim all over again only shows that you are not someone who is honest enough to be worth the effort.
listing a list of scientific branches is not providing proof that evolution is true, but mearly making a statement that there is proof. there are many scientists that study these fields who dont believe in the evolution theory and have a different interpretation of why these things happen. assumptions and opinions do not equal evidence.
"As has often been said, you are entitled to your own opinion, but NOT your own facts"
yes thanks, well try telling the evolution theory believers to stop calling their theoretical opinion fact then. And stop trying to say God doesnt exist, because that is not a fact, it is only an opinion, as it is not possible to know God doesnt exist.
"...We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment...Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind..." [Charles Darwin: "The Descent of Man," 1871 ed. vol. I, p. 168]
@TheManWithTVEyes Nice quote-mine. I have the whole thing in my lie-correcting subtitles for Expelled. Darwin was NOT saying that as if it were a bad thing, but excluding the phrases you did make it appear that way. It's fundamentally dishonest.
@shanedk : What does quote-mine mean? Is it something taken out of context? Are you unable to grasp what Darwin meant? Read again the excerpt and think.
"The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature."
....For seventeen years the ministry operated without incident, and no notice was ever given to CSE or Dr. Hovind that the IRS wanted any changes made on this issue until the day the charges were brought.
@earthshaker1987 Um, and this is different from every other case of tax fraud in WHAT way?
It costs money to prosecute people. So the IRS isn't going to do it unless the amount they can claim is significantly greater than the amount it costs to prosecute.
From the start of the ministry, Dr. Hovind sought legal counsel on the proper way to compensate those who would serve with him in the ministry. He was told by several attorneys that as a 508 organization, CSE was not required to withhold taxes and that each person serving would be responsible for paying their own income taxes.....
@earthshaker1987 508s have limitations, such as not raising over $5,000 in a calendar year, the only exception being for churches. Hovind lied and claimed his "ministry" is a church when it doesn't fit ANY of the criteria (such as not engaging in political advocacy, which Hovind did all the time), and he raised more than $5,000 per year.
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths (2 Timothy 4:3-4).
But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
Look Kent Hovind certainly is not a perfect person, no one is...but He strives to be and takes a stand against the lies being tought to kids in schools...i support him fully! Satan is behind His persecution for sure!
@earthshaker1987 No, he IS telling lies to school kids and others. His lies have been well-documented, and he has continued with the lies even after the truth has been pointed out to him by experts.
@petertrast Nobody needs to debate you creationists, there's just no point to it. Would you debate a holocaust denier? Would you debate someone who doesn't accept heliocentrism? Or someone who believes diseases are caused by demons (as the bible states) ? Evolution is a scientific fact, just accept it.
@Reasonwillwin Comparing "proof" of evolution to proof of the holocaust is dishonest and ridiculous. I would not bother debating with someone who is unable to differentiate between the 2. Thousands of American soldiers talked with thousands of holocaust survivors. No one has ever been interviewed who has ever witnessed evolution happening. Stupid argument by someone who lacks logic. Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is. Be honest. Evolution's a religion.
@petertrast "No one has ever been interviewed who has ever witnessed evolution happening." LIAR. LOTS of scientists have witnessed evolution, both in the lab and in the wild.
@shanedk You mean making fruit flies mutate? Did they increase genetic code? Or improve? Or change species? Mutation and variation are not Darwinian evolution. Wolves and dogs? Please cite proof of Darwinian evolution being witnessed as it occurs. What happened and who saw it? A link to a paper or article will suffice. Honest request.
I have examples both in my videos and in my book of information being added to genomes thorough mutation. There are examples of speciation in my series How Evolution is Scientific (and again in the book) as well as other videos.
@shanedk Thank you. Now I have some reading to do. This is only the second time in 20 years that I have been given a polite response to a genuine request for information. If evolutionists would stop insulting skeptics and extend information as you just did, there would be more open discussion. But the standard tactics of avoid and insult make skeptics like me assume there is no evidence. Thanks for the info. FYI, evolution is not the opposite of belief in God, despite what both "sides" may think
@shanedk "The hostilities are initiated from the creationist side, not ours". There have been accusations and name calling from both sides. On this very page you have called creationists liars and frauds and worse. I am called names by EVERY evolutioinist I engage and I am only ASKING questions, not asserting that evolution is false. Those saying evolution is false get called lots of names and some retaliate. I know I have responded sarcastically at some point to the name calling. 2 way street.
@petertrast I called them liars and frauds only after they lied and committed fraud. Those acts are an act of aggression; I'm merely calling them out for what they are.
And no you are NOT only asking questions. Examples: "No one has ever been interviewed who has ever witnessed evolution happening." "Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is." "Evolution's a religion." And many others. Those are NOT questions; they're accusations, and false ones at that.
@shanedk "No one has ever been interviewed who has ever witnessed evolution happening." Maybe EVIDENCE is found but it has not been seen OCCURRING as other science can be done. "Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is." Science leads to theory and fallibility. Evolution is based in theory, admittedly with what appears to be supporting evidence. That does not equal facts."Evolution's a religion." Anytime you believe something without factual support, this is true
@petertrast ''Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is.'' I'm going to ask you a quesiton and I want you to answer honestly, do you have a mental disability? Cause I wouldn't want to be debating a person with a learning problem. Evolution is a religion? How would that be possible? It's a natural process, it has been observed, documented and proved. Just like the holocaust, IT'S A FACT, wether your story baised bible talks about it or not.
@Reasonwillwin A scientific theory is empirical, and is always open to falsification if new evidence is presented. That is, no theory is ever considered strictly certain as science accepts the concept of fallibilism. The philosopher of science Karl Popper sharply distinguishes truth from certainty. He writes that scientific knowledge "consists in the search for truth", but it "is not the search for certainty ... All human knowledge is fallible and therefore uncertain. Go back to school please.
@petertrast Yeah like the theory of gravity, if evidence shows against this theory scientists will be glad to discredit it, so if you have evidence against the theory of evolution (You don't) then show it to the scientific community, you could win a nobel prize! Now let me tell you somwthing about this comment. Please just show evidence against evolution, afterall it's only the basis of our modern biology! Freaking uneducated moron.
@Reasonwillwin I did not say it was not an empirical theory. Science gives it more support than any other theory I know. The POINT is that it is a THEORY, not FACT. This is where you error. I did not say evolution was false. You are ASSUMING. You lack critical thinking skills. I do not believe in evolution but I did not say it is false. You are unable to see subtlety and differentiate between philosophy and science. And of course you result to name-calling. A religion may be true or false.
@Reasonwillwin Maybe you should learn to "reason" more critically, as your nick implies. I have nothing against reason, just against religion parading as science and touted by it's priests and followers as "fact".
@petertrast Evolution has been observed and verified countless times, it's backed up by 150 years of research and discoveries. It has nothing to do with a religion, that's just something the retards from your creationist church used in your brainwashing process. Evolution is nothing more than animals adapting to their environment, what the fuck is religious about that?
@Reasonwillwin I don't attend a creationist church. My doubt of evolution made you assume that. Just like an evolutionist, making assumptions. More names, of course, attack when you cannot prove. I notice you make no attempt to cite. Isn't that a scientific imperative? Oh that's right, you can't cite. It has never happened. Adaptations are NEEDED for evolution to work, but adaptation is NOT evolution. You don't even know the definition of the words you use. Get a dictionary. Science fail.
@petertrast I'm not the onewho was supposed to educate you, your teachers were and apparently they did an awful job at it. ''Adaptations are NEEDED for evolution to work, but adaptation is NOT evolution'' Evolution IS adaptation, read a book about it once in a while. ''Oh that's right, you can't cite. It has never happened.'' Want a nobel prize? Go ahead and disprove evolution pal! Good luck, it's like trying to disprove gravity or the nuclear theory. Just pathetic.
@Reasonwillwin They did educate me but my classes in critical thinking taught me to question everything instead of believing everything I was told. "Evolution IS adaptation". Not even hard core evolutionist "scientists" say that. You have proven your ignorance in the extreme with that statement. All oranges are fruits but not vice versa. Learn some logic and we can try again later... oh yes, how about ONE cite where evolution was witnessed, and I mean Darwinian evolution. I really want to see it
@petertrast Sir you keep repeating the same bullcrap over and over again. Yes evolution is adaption. But just so I know what I'm dealing with (The level of your ignorance) just tell me what YOU think evolution is. You clearly don't get it. You say that because we can't see for exemple the evo. of a land mammal to a whale in our small lifetime it doesn't happen. This is the same as looking at a baby for a couple hours and then concluding that it will never become an adult cause he didn't grow.
@petertrast There is a aspecies of american lizard that migrated through the country, over the years this species adapted itself to the different environments of the country and it made different kinds of lizards, lizards that are descendents of one species of lizard but cannot reproduce with their ancestor. That's evolution. It has been proven, accept it and move on with your life. I have critical thinking, that's why I laugh at fools like you who try to discredit our entire modern biology.
@Reasonwillwin Which lizards? What adaptations? Or are you just repeating something you overheard? I really want to know. If there is truly proof of evolution, I truly want to see it. That is how we differ. I am not saying evolution is false, I am asking for PROOF. All of your assertions mean nothing, only the hard science matters. I think I know what you might be referring to but I would like to hear it from you if you actually have a source and are not just parroting some "professor".
@petertrast They're salamanders, actually: Ensatina to be precise. Covered in my book, and do a search for "Ensatina" here on YouTube and I think you'll find others have covered them as well.
@Reasonwillwin Do you mean the lizard island experiment??
"There's no dispute that major changes to the lizards' digestive tract occurred. 'That kind of change is really dramatic,' he added."
"All of this might be evolution," Hendry said. "The logical next step would be to confirm the genetic basis for these changes."
Well, when and where did they post the proof? Or was this some other lizard adaptation like changing from eggs to live birth? Genetic proof?? Haven't seen it, still waiting.
@petertrast LOL okay, you're probably one of those who think a chimpanzee suddenly gave birth to a human. Move along people! It was just some ignorant!
@Reasonwillwin No, I think chimps come from chimps and people from people, period. Prove otherwise and I will join you declaring that evolution is true. Evolution being true would not change my philosophy or views on religion. I have no problem with a creator using evolution to make the species. But no one has ever found proof that speciation occurs through evolution. I just want proof. Evolution and creation are not mutually exclusive. But they both require faith.
@petertrast It's funny cause I have nothing to prove to you, your lack of education on the subject of evolution is not MY problem. Now if you want information on it go on talk origins (dot) com or any other biology website, you'll get all the information you'll need. You don't understand ANYTHING about the evolutionary process, and coming from a supposed ''educator'' that's down right shameful. Now get informed.
@Reasonwillwin YOU are the one claiming proof. Why not share it? Cause you don't have it?? I never said I taught biology. No one can know everything. I simply asked for proof. You refuse to help. So either you don't WANT to or you CAN'T. Maybe you meant talk origins (dot) org (have you actually been there?). I have and I have never found such proof. And everyone blathers on about what "species" means. How can we discuss evolution if species has never been properly defined? Give up the proof plz.
@petertrast I just told you, the proof you want is an animal giving birth to another animal, that's not evolution! We all come from a single ancestor, DNA and genetics have proven that. I've given you the exemple of an american lizard that can't reproduce with his cousin from which he descends and yet you don't accept. Go read books about evolution, learn about it. It's not my duty to educate you on the subject.
@Reasonwillwin what lizard species? Where? I searched on Google and talk origins. No genetic proof on any that I read and no mention of lack of ability to breed. Did you make the last part up about breeding?? Your story lacks support and cohesion. I am willing to READ the evidence. Are you willing to SHARE it?
@petertrast Do some research on the ensatina salamander, How to confuse a creationist - 1 onaccept youtube. Watch this video and then accept your total pawn.
@Reasonwillwin And I am not trying to "discredit" modern biology, just asking for proof. Assumptions are not proof. Just because we see the Sun rise in the East and set in the West does not mean the Earth is the center of the universe. That is the kind of logic you are applying. Learn scientific method and get back to me. Names again, huh? You must be pissed off like the rest of the "believers" who dislike my requests for proof when you have none.
@Reasonwillwin Please tell me it is not the fence lizard... Behaviour changes and longer legs means evolution??? No. This is still adaptation unless genetic proof exists that the 2 are incompatible. None of the 14 papers I read on the fence lizard study brought up genetic studies to back up the claim of evolution. Maybe you have proof otherwise? Otherwise you are speculating on second hand information. Not science and not evolution until you can prove it.
@petertrast The evidence you want me to show you is an animal giving birth to a completly different animal, and it just won't happen! Cause that's not evolution! The american lizards I've talked to you about ARE genetically incompatible. They changed so much from the original lizards that they can't reproduce with them. Now go on the sites I've talked to you about and educate yourself.
@Reasonwillwin I never said I wanted to see an animal give birth to a different animal. I only asked for the cite where I can read about lizards who can no longer breed. If you refuse to help, I must assume you cannot, and are therefore dishonest about what you "know" and are relying on hearsay. Ran a search on lizard and found 29 articles, none detailing this supposed proof. Are you lying or misinformed? Just asking.
@Reasonwillwin We are not debating. I am asking for the cite and you refuse. That is not debate, it's assertion without proof. I am perfectly willing to listen but you refuse to share what you "know" with documentation. I searched, I have been searching my whole life, but no one ever puts forth proof. Will you be the first? I would love to see it.
@petertrast By the way how am I the one who has the burden of proof? YOU'RE the nobody who objects to a theory that is backed up by more than 150 years of research and discoveries, supported by at least 98% of the scientific community and is the basis for our modern biology. Give ME evidence against evolution pal.
@Reasonwillwin I never said it was FALSE. I only asked for PROOF. Now I need to spend some time on ring species. And if the scientists will ever agree on what a "species" IS, we can get to the heart of the matter more quickly. Great info in the video, although making fun of people does nothing to sway the naysayers. Looks like strong supporting evidence at first glance. Time to search on ring species and salamanders and warblers! :)
@Reasonwillwin WHICH lizards??? I found several stories about lizards and evolution, NONE of them spoke of genetic proof, only LACK of it. If you would just say the SPECIES name, I could search for it. I research all the time but have never heard what you are speaking of. I am asking this small thing. Just cite the source and I will READ ALL OF IT... lol... you keep saying research but you cannot find something that does not exist. If you know it exists, why do you refuse?
@Reasonwillwin You did not ask a question, you merely insulted me. Learn what science IS and IS NOT and we might be able to get down to the discussion. When you believe something that is not based on FACTS (all science, really) you need FAITH to give that belief substance. This ventures into the realm of philosophy, the domain of "religion". Maybe you should take a critical thinking, philosophy and debate class before you take up subjects over your head. A learning problem? More insults...
@Reasonwillwin Learning problem? I have been an educator in many fields and I am used to dealing with people who think they "know" facts. Your arrogance (excessive self-esteem) blinds you to your own ignorance (lack of knowledge, not an insult). We don't even know what we don't know. We are small and infinitesimally insignificant. When has evolution been observed? Please spare me the fruit flies and wolves. Those are easily dismissed by scientific "method". Make more insults if you like...
@petertrast ''Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is'' NO, you're the uneducated fool who doesn't know what science is, the theory of evolution is the basis for our modern biology, go educate yourself.
@shanedk you retarded liar. no they didn't. dmcas was caused by atheists like you. you government shill. you are pushing government propaganda. you preach hate to believers and those that know the truth that nasa is a bunch liars
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@animefan2k9 "dmcas was caused by atheists like you."
Outright LIE. The FALSE DMCA's of Hovind's organization are well-documented. So are Jarrah White's. You can't refute either the atheists or the scientists who say we landed on the moon on a factual basis, so you resort to these pathetic ad hominems and deny the CONFIRMED PERJURY of those who you support.
shanedk 1 day ago
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animefan2k9 1 day ago
@Shanedk- Why do you go after Kent Hovind so much? If I were you I'd go after Ken Ham ALOT because Mr Hovinds "degrees" are pretend. Mr. Ham actually "has" a degree in "environmental biology"(what ever that is). Is that supposed to be more or less sound than my BSCJ (forensics)?
I consider Ham the worst lyer in the world, and he goes out of his way to lie to little kids
dj092768 1 week ago
@dj092768 Because he made LOTS of videos and speeches and put them all online copyright-free, so we could use them with impunity to show how wrong he is (or so he thought, until his organization illegally reneged on the the deal and performed BLATANT PERJURY by having these videos removed for DMCA violations...)
shanedk 1 week ago
@dj092768 Besides, I have a 6-part series attacking CMI, which was formerly part of Ken Ham's Answers in Genesis.
shanedk 1 week ago
Kent went to prison for refusing to pay into Social Security for his employees. big deal, SSI is broke and worthless for most of us. He was ahead of his time. The POSTER of this is the true idiot.
joesnyder4 2 weeks ago
@joesnyder4 So you're saying we should follow him by example, instead of point and laugh?
pythor2 1 week ago
I have to be honest and say I am slightly offended by this... just like I have to say, I also thought it was vaguely funny. I personally dislike Justin Bieber... a lot. But I don't go around making crude videos about him and lying. I am sorry if you disliked this message, but I think I have the right to voice my opinion, just as you did with this video.
ArtIsMyVoice 2 weeks ago
@ArtIsMyVoice At least Justin Bieber hasn't gone around deliberately misinforming people about science to push his personal agenda and (more germane to this video) hasn't gone around saying homosexuality is evil.
shanedk 2 weeks ago
@shanedk Uh... yeah. I should know that more than anyone. I AM homosexual. But that doesn't mean I'm going to go making things up about this poor man just to make myself feel better! =(
ArtIsMyVoice 1 week ago
@ArtIsMyVoice Do you not understand the concept and purpose of parody?
shanedk 1 week ago
@shanedk Yes indeed, but still... I feel bad for him. I'm sorry if my opinion offended you. but... I just can't stand the thought of someone being away from their family and ridiculed like he has... I'm sorry.
ArtIsMyVoice 1 week ago
@ArtIsMyVoice He brought it on himself.
shanedk 1 week ago
@shanedk no he didn't you shill. jarrah white pawned your ass
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@animefan2k9 Mathematics pwned Jarrah White. I'd explain it to you, but I doubt that a moon hoaxtard, creationist, white power, middle school drop out like you would understand.
johnrainrules 1 day ago
@johnrainrules there no way man landed on the moon. they would have been xrayed to death on the moon surface most of what nasa does is a fraud.. shaned k is a proven liar. go read up on the van allen radiation belts.
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@animefan2k9 "there no way man landed on the moon. they would have been xrayed to death on the moon surface most of what nasa does is a fraud"
8^D
Yeah my GPS works by MAGIC, there are't any satellites, those lights going across the sky at night are angels. LOL
Are you religious too? 8^)
warren52nz 1 day ago
@warren52nz i guess you didn't look up x-rays from the moon surface. the sun puts out deadly radiation. most of shanedk vids is hate
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@animefan2k9 You do know the Astronauts didn't leave the ship naked right? Also looking at all the white power shit on your channel calling anything on Shane's channel hate is absurd.
johnrainrules 1 day ago
@johnrainrules news discovery com space moon-radiation-gamma-rays
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@animefan2k9 Yet again, that would be relevant if they were naked.
johnrainrules 1 day ago
@johnrainrules
That he has a playlist called "shanedkidiot" isn't helping his case much either.
vspqbd 1 day ago
@vspqbd well shanedk is an idiot. watch the vids i Favorited and ignore the title.
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@vspqbd With videos from so many esteemed YouTubers like dsglop, FSAthe1st, and billburns2. Yeah, that wouldn't be a waste of time at all...
shanedk 1 day ago
@vspqbd My favorite is the video he favorited that said "Race and I.Q. Blacks Can't Accel" With excel spelled wrong. My wife is from the Bahamas and is a member of MENSA. I'm sure she's a lot smarter than both this genius and the guy that made that video.
animefan2k9 you are not a winner at the game of life.
johnrainrules 15 hours ago
@animefan2k9 "i guess you didn't look up x-rays from the moon surface."
Well as far as I'm aware all of the astronauts that spent time on the moon are still alive.
Or are you one of those conspiracy theorists who think that the moon landing was faked, 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government and they have aliens in Area 52?
Tell me do you think Elvis is still alive?
8^D
LOL
warren52nz 16 hours ago
@animefan2k9 Covered RIGHT OFF THE BAT in Episode 3 of Bogosity. It was the VERY FIRST CLAIM I TOOK ON!
shanedk 1 day ago
@shanedk i'm not interested in your lies.
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@ArtIsMyVoice No we should'nt make **** up just to make ourselves feel better. I happen to like Elvis and Buddy Holly, and JB, and Selena, and Savage Garden, and on and on. Kent Hovind was making his own **** up.
dj092768 1 week ago
That is so sweet. It's good to see he has developed some new hobbies.
garethb1961 1 month ago
YOU OR TRBL Y NOT YOU JAST MAKE A GOD FILM MAN
shenkoky14 1 month ago
He is in prison legitmately? or was he in prison for a misinterpretation, or for a software glitch? or for tempting to have an opinioon of his own in this gov.? Not a protester, I fully uphold the confines of the laws, agree with paying taxes, however, it has been made so I am not allowed to pay them for some reson, especially on the property. so why? not sure, questions I have to get answered as to why our finances have been hit so bad. anyone can think of many things.we need facts
boxerpup7 1 month ago
@boxerpup7 The facts are there, and open for all to see. He DELIBERATELY engaged in FIFTY-THREE different counts of fraud. LIARS like you don't want to admit it, and say things like they couldn't cite the laws he broke (they did) or that they didn't have proof (they did) or that he wasn't allowed to defend himself (he was).
He's a FRAUD. DEAL with it.
shanedk 1 month ago 7
@shanedk you are just a hateful man that hate the truth. we didn't go to the moon and evolution is a lie.
animefan2k9 3 weeks ago
@animefan2k9
ya da moon landing totally fake 4 real & Elvis lives! Gawd bless da US of Amewhica!
ButterOnCorn 1 day ago
@boxerpup7 Do you even know what Kent Hovind said? He said that everything he owned, the money, all of his possessions, and everything else in the world, were property of god, and therefore he was not subject to paying taxes to the US government. HE ADMITTED IT, you delusional fucktard! And that's not even the half of it.
Kent Hovind is absolute scum, and he got exactly what he deserved. I hope he's being brutally sodomized in prison throughout his entire sentence. FUCK HIM.
phorse 3 weeks ago
Totally sick and demented.
AndyG792 2 months ago
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@AndyG792 > Totally sick and demented.
Yes - Kent Hovind certainly is.
csmcmillion 4 weeks ago
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The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate than the word "gay".
A person does not need religion, hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important, qualitative differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption.
Homosexual activists, with complete support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims and martyrs; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
sluge satanske,kako najboljega ismevate tako vam bog dao,Hovind je najveci amerikanac koji je ziveo ikada,i vidi gde je sad,majku da vam jebem masonsku i novo svetsko poredacku
FloReSiTa078 4 months ago
@davidmas0 I just checked that textbook, and YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR.
Get blocked, ASSHOLE!
shanedk 5 months ago
@davidmas0 You have just crossed the line into a Rule #5 violation. NO TEXTBOOK today supports Hackel's theory. YOU ARE A LIAR, and this sort of libelous comment is NOT allowed on this channel.
First warning.
shanedk 5 months ago
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Hey everyone. First I wanted to say sorry to you and the owner of this channel for spamming. My big sister was murderd 3yrs ago and nothing was ever done about it. She left behind 3 wonderful children that me and my parents raise.I wrote a song about her to help get attention to our cause of a closer investigation into her death (there is a link in the vid description) We dont want money or your information, just prayers and support please!
KesslersCross 5 months ago
KENT HOVIND IS AWESOME!!! Don't you forget it!!!
aaerosteve 6 months ago
Kent Hovind rules, this guy only mocks him because he cant prove him wrong!! how lame!!
davidmas0 6 months ago
@davidmas0
he was proven wrong a long time ago just for some reason nobody (like you) stops to listen to the truth. try the videos "we people laugh at creationist" a few videos in he exposes the lies in hovinds claims.
rflooker 5 months ago
@rflooker
I do listen to the truth, that is why I believe in God, you might think he has been proved wrong, but I dont agree with you. evolution was proven wrong over 100 years ago and still is being proven wrong today, but stubborn people wont accept it. evolution is a Godless religion, it is not science, as it is not proven, a theory, with a simple formula of millions of fairytale years to hide the fact it didnt happen. you see, people believe it happened based on faith, not fact.
davidmas0 5 months ago
@davidmas0
Evolution was not proven wrong that is the problem. 98% of all scientist believe that the evidence is solid. If they didn't have facts they would not believe it that is the way science works. they are not "stubborn" you are for ignoring the facts and sticking your fingers in your ears. as soon as you start really looking at your religon you will see what a fail it is. That is what I did you see i was a christian but i did the major sin, i started to ask questions and think.
rflooker 5 months ago
@rflooker
evolution has been proven wrong, in fact, evolution was never proven right, as it has always been a theory. 98% of scientists believe that the evidence is solid? what evidence? and what source did you get 98% from, or did you just think that up? And no they dont believe it based on evidence, they believed it because the idea of God existing means there is rules which get in the way of their own personal agenda. you say you were a Christian? sounds to me like you never knew God.
davidmas0 5 months ago
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@davidmas0
my friend you have not a clue of what you speak. do not post me if you are not going to take the time to read up on what you clearly have no idea about. no proven? and who tells you this? the scientist that promote it? or the lame ass religious freaks scared out of their gourd that the are proven for the fools they are?
rflooker 5 months ago
@rflooker
im not your friend, and believe me i know more than you think. do you even know what the defintion of science is? ive studied evolution and the Bible till i was blue, red and purple in the face and believe me it is not a proven fact. you need to think a lot more
davidmas0 5 months ago
@rflooker
"That is what I did you see i was a christian but i did the major sin, i started to ask questions and think."
Well thats funny, because i used to believe in the evolution theory based on what people and even my own Davd told me about it, but when i found God i investigated it and the more i found out about the evolution theory, the more I was convinced it was a fairytale invented by a man. the more i grew to knew God and learn evolution the more i realised evolution wasnt true.
davidmas0 5 months ago
@rflooker
evolution is not scientific, if you want to believe that then that is up to you but i will stick with God. If you really think you were a Christian, then im sorry but i beleive you just thought you were a Christian, dont worry ive met many people who thought they were Christians but werent. Scripture in the Bible helps us to know who is and who isnt, and i will the Bible's advice on that one. there are also 6 different meanings of evolution, which one do you mean?
davidmas0 5 months ago
@davidmas0
not scientific? man you prove what a retard you are with every post. go get an education then come back then we will talk.
rflooker 5 months ago
@rflooker
why call me a retard? is that because you have nothing better to say? i said it is not scientific because it cant be scientific proven, which it hasnt been. go get an education? hahahahahaha why should i even waste my time with you? do you even know what the 6 different meanings of evolution are?
davidmas0 5 months ago
@rflooker
"i started to ask questions and think"
it is funny you say that, because the textbooks that teach evolution, dont teach people to think, they actually teach them to not think at all. some that i have read are very arrogant in stressing how mcuh a fact evolution is even though it is an unproven theory. saying something is fact and proven doesnt mean it is, man can lie and be wrong, so how can he be trusted? God cant lie and be wrong, so God can be trusted which is why i trust him
davidmas0 5 months ago
@davidmas0
it is a proven theory that is why you are making yourself sound like such an ass.
rflooker 5 months ago
@rflooker
how is evolution a proven theory?
davidmas0 5 months ago
@davidmas0 Through evidence of these different types: paleontology (fossil record), geology/chemistry (radiocarbon dating), biogeography (distributions of organisms throughout the world), comparative anatomy (anatomical structures of flora and fauna), genetics (DNA, traits, inheritance, genetic sequences), embryology (similarity of embryos of different species, special structures, inheritance), zoology & ethology (animal behavior, natural selection, adaptation), and more.
whoiga 5 months ago
@whoiga
1. Paleontology (fossils dont prove evolution and cant as they are dead and it is assumed they changed)
2. Geology (radiocarbon dating has been proven to be unreliable and innacurate)
3. Chemistry (chemistry doesnt prove evolution as life never been generated from non living matter)
4. Biogeography (locations can be account for the world wide flood and the ice on the south and north poles)
5. Comparative anatomy (proves we have a common Designer not a common Ancestor)
davidmas0 5 months ago
@davidmas0 1. Not a coherent criticism. Transitional fossils may not prove evolution on their own, but they corroborate findings in other disciplines 2. See asa3[dot]org/ASA/resources/Wiens[dot]html for a good explanation of radiometric dating accuracy by a Christian no less 3. Biochemists gradually find support for prebiotic self-assembly, (Center for Chemical Evolution) 4. A flood wouldn't account for layers' different fossils, or polar icecaps (wtf?) 5. Only a bad designer (see vagus nerve)
whoiga 5 months ago
@whoiga Also:
1) Especially when they predict in advance where the transitionals should be found, both location and stratum, as they did with Tiktaalik.
3. See also the work of Dr. Jack Szostak.
5. It doesn't even do that, since comparative anatomy shows that similar structures ONLY have similar designs when they are related; in unrelated lineages the design is COMPLETELY different.
shanedk 5 months ago
@shanedk Good points and additions. Cheers
whoiga 5 months ago
@whoiga
DNA (DNA proves a powerful creator as it is far too complexed and organised to have originated by chance, also inheritance can only be select from genes that already exist, which actually in itself disproves the idea we can evolve from different kinds of animals, chemical soup etcc.. although different species or (kinds) can adapt to their environments but they still remain the same kind, but adpating into a completely different kind of animal requires new genes to be created.
davidmas0 5 months ago
@whoiga
7. embryology (Ernest Haeckel(German Scientist) faked his drawings of the embryos. (this was discovered by Professor Wilhelm in 1874) . today’s technology has discovered that Haeckel’s drawings were incorrect and the embryo’s are not similar. Haeckel was charged with fraud by five professors and convicted by a university court. His deceit was exposed in "Haeckel’s Frauds and Forgeries," a 1915 book by J. Assmuth and Ernest R. Hull, who quoted 19 leading authorities of the day. )
davidmas0 5 months ago
@davidmas0 Good thing modern embryology doesn't rely on Haeckel as his "ontology recapitulates phylogeny" hasn't been accepted by biologists in over a century...
shanedk 5 months ago
@whoiga
zoology & ethology (natural selection as i have said does not prove evolution from soup into many different kinds of animals, but actually disproves it. The reason is, natural selection can only select from genetic information in the gene pool that already exists. for an animal to evolve into a human requires new genes to be created,and it is not scientifically observed or proven that new genes can be created. species can adapt to their environments, but these adaptions are limited.
davidmas0 5 months ago
@davidmas0 random mutations cause the change, natural selection the best mutations being picked.luck does play a role.Did u fall asleep in science class?
rahulpower 4 months ago
@rahulpower Actually, no, it doesn't. With a sufficiently-sized population, beneficial mutations are virtually guaranteed!
shanedk 4 months ago
@shanedk thats what i said though. random mutations take place and these can be benificial or not. what i said didnt eliminate this. im sooo happy i got a reply from u though:DDDDDDDDDDDD
rahulpower 4 months ago
@rahulpower But you said luck plays a role, and it really doesn't.
shanedk 4 months ago
@shanedk it does. Its effectlively luck(chance) which decides whether or not a coding error leads to a benifitial mutation or not. Things like natural disasters and predation are affected by luck. e.g a lion goes for 1 zebra in a herd. Sure charecteristics play a role but there is a small luck factor. This luck factor is minimised over a long period of time and is near neglegable when considering a timescale of millions of years.However, the initial comment made was not over a large timescale.
rahulpower 4 months ago
@shanedk yea, nothing but silence.
rahulpower 4 months ago
@rahulpower You said nothing I hadn't already responded to. Repeating the same wrong claim all over again only shows that you are not someone who is honest enough to be worth the effort.
shanedk 4 months ago
@whoiga
listing a list of scientific branches is not providing proof that evolution is true, but mearly making a statement that there is proof. there are many scientists that study these fields who dont believe in the evolution theory and have a different interpretation of why these things happen. assumptions and opinions do not equal evidence.
davidmas0 5 months ago
@davidmas0 "you might think he has been proved wrong, but I dont agree with you."
As has often been said, you are entitled to your own opinion, but NOT your own facts.
"evolution was proven wrong over 100 years ago" [citation needed]
"it is not science, as it is not proven, a theory,"
Go look up the word "theory" in a science book. Or see my video on the subject.
shanedk 5 months ago
@shanedk
maybe you should look up the word theory,
definition of the word "theory" :
1. a supposition or system of ideas explaining something.
2. a SPECULATIVE view (this is all well in theory, but how will it work in practice?)
(The Concise Oxford Dictionary, 1990, page 1266)
definition of Speculate:
1. form a theory or conjecture without a firm factual basis
(The Concise Oxford Dictionary, 1990, page 1269)
davidmas0 5 months ago
@shanedk
"As has often been said, you are entitled to your own opinion, but NOT your own facts"
yes thanks, well try telling the evolution theory believers to stop calling their theoretical opinion fact then. And stop trying to say God doesnt exist, because that is not a fact, it is only an opinion, as it is not possible to know God doesnt exist.
davidmas0 5 months ago
It's easy to be sent to jail, if you are honest and speak up.
thalonen 7 months ago
LOL... anyone else think this is the most rational this guy has ever sounded?
felixlighta 7 months ago
@felixlighta Kent Hovind is completely awesomeness, I hope your not ridiculing him, I may have misunderstood your statement. He is a martyr.
aaerosteve 6 months ago
@aaerosteve Bullshit. He committed fraud and paid the price for it.
shanedk 6 months ago
@aaerosteve No you haven't misunderstood me. I was basically saying that he spouts shit and by the sounds of things you have been taken in by it.
felixlighta 6 months ago
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shanedk 7 months ago
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davidmas0 6 months ago
@davidmas0 lol. you poor, stupid creature..
bushiyo2 6 months ago
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shanedk 7 months ago
"...We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment...Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind..." [Charles Darwin: "The Descent of Man," 1871 ed. vol. I, p. 168]
TheManWithTVEyes 7 months ago
@TheManWithTVEyes Nice quote-mine. I have the whole thing in my lie-correcting subtitles for Expelled. Darwin was NOT saying that as if it were a bad thing, but excluding the phrases you did make it appear that way. It's fundamentally dishonest.
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk : What does quote-mine mean? Is it something taken out of context? Are you unable to grasp what Darwin meant? Read again the excerpt and think.
TheManWithTVEyes 7 months ago
@TheManWithTVEyes I've read the WHOLE THING.
"The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature."
shanedk 7 months ago
you got 1 thing right! evolution will always be wrong!!!!
grapgrtyujjhjs1 7 months ago
....For seventeen years the ministry operated without incident, and no notice was ever given to CSE or Dr. Hovind that the IRS wanted any changes made on this issue until the day the charges were brought.
earthshaker1987 7 months ago
@earthshaker1987 Um, and this is different from every other case of tax fraud in WHAT way?
It costs money to prosecute people. So the IRS isn't going to do it unless the amount they can claim is significantly greater than the amount it costs to prosecute.
shanedk 7 months ago
From the start of the ministry, Dr. Hovind sought legal counsel on the proper way to compensate those who would serve with him in the ministry. He was told by several attorneys that as a 508 organization, CSE was not required to withhold taxes and that each person serving would be responsible for paying their own income taxes.....
earthshaker1987 7 months ago
@earthshaker1987 508s have limitations, such as not raising over $5,000 in a calendar year, the only exception being for churches. Hovind lied and claimed his "ministry" is a church when it doesn't fit ANY of the criteria (such as not engaging in political advocacy, which Hovind did all the time), and he raised more than $5,000 per year.
shanedk 7 months ago
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths (2 Timothy 4:3-4).
earthshaker1987 7 months ago
@earthshaker1987 Sounds like Hovind's "ministry" to a T.
shanedk 7 months ago
Jesus said that this would happen to those who make a stand for Him.
Luke 21:12
But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
Look Kent Hovind certainly is not a perfect person, no one is...but He strives to be and takes a stand against the lies being tought to kids in schools...i support him fully! Satan is behind His persecution for sure!
earthshaker1987 7 months ago
@earthshaker1987 No, he IS telling lies to school kids and others. His lies have been well-documented, and he has continued with the lies even after the truth has been pointed out to him by experts.
shanedk 7 months ago
@earthshaker1987 agree wit this 100 %
ProMajtas 7 months ago
Kent Hovind is a decent and good man. You will be held to account for every idle word.
Evolution is a dangerous lie, and it helps produce fools like you.
Laylow4now 8 months ago
@Laylow4now [citation needed]
shanedk 8 months ago
It figures they would use a southern accent to insult hovind.
The09po0 8 months ago
@The09po0 I naturally have a southern accent.
shanedk 8 months ago
Gee, this is is very mature. Someone has too much free time.
Blank254 8 months ago
Prejudiced haters. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Try making a coherent argument instead of exposing your ignorance.
mightymikail 8 months ago
childish insult is the refuge of those who cannot debate.
petertrast 9 months ago
@petertrast Nobody needs to debate you creationists, there's just no point to it. Would you debate a holocaust denier? Would you debate someone who doesn't accept heliocentrism? Or someone who believes diseases are caused by demons (as the bible states) ? Evolution is a scientific fact, just accept it.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin Comparing "proof" of evolution to proof of the holocaust is dishonest and ridiculous. I would not bother debating with someone who is unable to differentiate between the 2. Thousands of American soldiers talked with thousands of holocaust survivors. No one has ever been interviewed who has ever witnessed evolution happening. Stupid argument by someone who lacks logic. Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is. Be honest. Evolution's a religion.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast "No one has ever been interviewed who has ever witnessed evolution happening." LIAR. LOTS of scientists have witnessed evolution, both in the lab and in the wild.
shanedk 8 months ago
@shanedk You mean making fruit flies mutate? Did they increase genetic code? Or improve? Or change species? Mutation and variation are not Darwinian evolution. Wolves and dogs? Please cite proof of Darwinian evolution being witnessed as it occurs. What happened and who saw it? A link to a paper or article will suffice. Honest request.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast "Did they increase genetic code?"
I have examples both in my videos and in my book of information being added to genomes thorough mutation. There are examples of speciation in my series How Evolution is Scientific (and again in the book) as well as other videos.
shanedk 8 months ago
@shanedk Thank you. Now I have some reading to do. This is only the second time in 20 years that I have been given a polite response to a genuine request for information. If evolutionists would stop insulting skeptics and extend information as you just did, there would be more open discussion. But the standard tactics of avoid and insult make skeptics like me assume there is no evidence. Thanks for the info. FYI, evolution is not the opposite of belief in God, despite what both "sides" may think
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast "If evolutionists would stop insulting skeptics and extend information as you just did, there would be more open discussion."
You mean, like Richard Dawkins, Jerry Coyne, and many others have been trying to do for decades?
The hostilities are initiated from the creationist side, not ours.
shanedk 8 months ago
@shanedk "The hostilities are initiated from the creationist side, not ours". There have been accusations and name calling from both sides. On this very page you have called creationists liars and frauds and worse. I am called names by EVERY evolutioinist I engage and I am only ASKING questions, not asserting that evolution is false. Those saying evolution is false get called lots of names and some retaliate. I know I have responded sarcastically at some point to the name calling. 2 way street.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast I called them liars and frauds only after they lied and committed fraud. Those acts are an act of aggression; I'm merely calling them out for what they are.
And no you are NOT only asking questions. Examples: "No one has ever been interviewed who has ever witnessed evolution happening." "Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is." "Evolution's a religion." And many others. Those are NOT questions; they're accusations, and false ones at that.
shanedk 8 months ago
@shanedk "No one has ever been interviewed who has ever witnessed evolution happening." Maybe EVIDENCE is found but it has not been seen OCCURRING as other science can be done. "Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is." Science leads to theory and fallibility. Evolution is based in theory, admittedly with what appears to be supporting evidence. That does not equal facts."Evolution's a religion." Anytime you believe something without factual support, this is true
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast "Maybe EVIDENCE is found but it has not been seen OCCURRIN"
YES...IT...HAS.
"Evolution is based in theory"
Every theory is based on and backed up by facts. Evolution IS A FACT. The THEORY of evolution is the theory that explains the FACT of evolution.
shanedk 8 months ago
@petertrast Tides are a theory.
LionexHunter 7 months ago
@LionexHunter ok...
petertrast 7 months ago
@petertrast ''Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is.'' I'm going to ask you a quesiton and I want you to answer honestly, do you have a mental disability? Cause I wouldn't want to be debating a person with a learning problem. Evolution is a religion? How would that be possible? It's a natural process, it has been observed, documented and proved. Just like the holocaust, IT'S A FACT, wether your story baised bible talks about it or not.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin A scientific theory is empirical, and is always open to falsification if new evidence is presented. That is, no theory is ever considered strictly certain as science accepts the concept of fallibilism. The philosopher of science Karl Popper sharply distinguishes truth from certainty. He writes that scientific knowledge "consists in the search for truth", but it "is not the search for certainty ... All human knowledge is fallible and therefore uncertain. Go back to school please.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast Yeah like the theory of gravity, if evidence shows against this theory scientists will be glad to discredit it, so if you have evidence against the theory of evolution (You don't) then show it to the scientific community, you could win a nobel prize! Now let me tell you somwthing about this comment. Please just show evidence against evolution, afterall it's only the basis of our modern biology! Freaking uneducated moron.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin I did not say it was not an empirical theory. Science gives it more support than any other theory I know. The POINT is that it is a THEORY, not FACT. This is where you error. I did not say evolution was false. You are ASSUMING. You lack critical thinking skills. I do not believe in evolution but I did not say it is false. You are unable to see subtlety and differentiate between philosophy and science. And of course you result to name-calling. A religion may be true or false.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast "The POINT is that it is a THEORY, not FACT. "
Actually, it's BOTH. I have a video on that, too.
shanedk 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin Maybe you should learn to "reason" more critically, as your nick implies. I have nothing against reason, just against religion parading as science and touted by it's priests and followers as "fact".
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast Evolution has been observed and verified countless times, it's backed up by 150 years of research and discoveries. It has nothing to do with a religion, that's just something the retards from your creationist church used in your brainwashing process. Evolution is nothing more than animals adapting to their environment, what the fuck is religious about that?
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin I don't attend a creationist church. My doubt of evolution made you assume that. Just like an evolutionist, making assumptions. More names, of course, attack when you cannot prove. I notice you make no attempt to cite. Isn't that a scientific imperative? Oh that's right, you can't cite. It has never happened. Adaptations are NEEDED for evolution to work, but adaptation is NOT evolution. You don't even know the definition of the words you use. Get a dictionary. Science fail.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast I'm not the onewho was supposed to educate you, your teachers were and apparently they did an awful job at it. ''Adaptations are NEEDED for evolution to work, but adaptation is NOT evolution'' Evolution IS adaptation, read a book about it once in a while. ''Oh that's right, you can't cite. It has never happened.'' Want a nobel prize? Go ahead and disprove evolution pal! Good luck, it's like trying to disprove gravity or the nuclear theory. Just pathetic.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin They did educate me but my classes in critical thinking taught me to question everything instead of believing everything I was told. "Evolution IS adaptation". Not even hard core evolutionist "scientists" say that. You have proven your ignorance in the extreme with that statement. All oranges are fruits but not vice versa. Learn some logic and we can try again later... oh yes, how about ONE cite where evolution was witnessed, and I mean Darwinian evolution. I really want to see it
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast Sir you keep repeating the same bullcrap over and over again. Yes evolution is adaption. But just so I know what I'm dealing with (The level of your ignorance) just tell me what YOU think evolution is. You clearly don't get it. You say that because we can't see for exemple the evo. of a land mammal to a whale in our small lifetime it doesn't happen. This is the same as looking at a baby for a couple hours and then concluding that it will never become an adult cause he didn't grow.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@petertrast There is a aspecies of american lizard that migrated through the country, over the years this species adapted itself to the different environments of the country and it made different kinds of lizards, lizards that are descendents of one species of lizard but cannot reproduce with their ancestor. That's evolution. It has been proven, accept it and move on with your life. I have critical thinking, that's why I laugh at fools like you who try to discredit our entire modern biology.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin Which lizards? What adaptations? Or are you just repeating something you overheard? I really want to know. If there is truly proof of evolution, I truly want to see it. That is how we differ. I am not saying evolution is false, I am asking for PROOF. All of your assertions mean nothing, only the hard science matters. I think I know what you might be referring to but I would like to hear it from you if you actually have a source and are not just parroting some "professor".
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast They're salamanders, actually: Ensatina to be precise. Covered in my book, and do a search for "Ensatina" here on YouTube and I think you'll find others have covered them as well.
shanedk 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin Do you mean the lizard island experiment??
"There's no dispute that major changes to the lizards' digestive tract occurred. 'That kind of change is really dramatic,' he added."
"All of this might be evolution," Hendry said. "The logical next step would be to confirm the genetic basis for these changes."
Well, when and where did they post the proof? Or was this some other lizard adaptation like changing from eggs to live birth? Genetic proof?? Haven't seen it, still waiting.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast LOL okay, you're probably one of those who think a chimpanzee suddenly gave birth to a human. Move along people! It was just some ignorant!
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin No, I think chimps come from chimps and people from people, period. Prove otherwise and I will join you declaring that evolution is true. Evolution being true would not change my philosophy or views on religion. I have no problem with a creator using evolution to make the species. But no one has ever found proof that speciation occurs through evolution. I just want proof. Evolution and creation are not mutually exclusive. But they both require faith.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast It's funny cause I have nothing to prove to you, your lack of education on the subject of evolution is not MY problem. Now if you want information on it go on talk origins (dot) com or any other biology website, you'll get all the information you'll need. You don't understand ANYTHING about the evolutionary process, and coming from a supposed ''educator'' that's down right shameful. Now get informed.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin YOU are the one claiming proof. Why not share it? Cause you don't have it?? I never said I taught biology. No one can know everything. I simply asked for proof. You refuse to help. So either you don't WANT to or you CAN'T. Maybe you meant talk origins (dot) org (have you actually been there?). I have and I have never found such proof. And everyone blathers on about what "species" means. How can we discuss evolution if species has never been properly defined? Give up the proof plz.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast I just told you, the proof you want is an animal giving birth to another animal, that's not evolution! We all come from a single ancestor, DNA and genetics have proven that. I've given you the exemple of an american lizard that can't reproduce with his cousin from which he descends and yet you don't accept. Go read books about evolution, learn about it. It's not my duty to educate you on the subject.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin what lizard species? Where? I searched on Google and talk origins. No genetic proof on any that I read and no mention of lack of ability to breed. Did you make the last part up about breeding?? Your story lacks support and cohesion. I am willing to READ the evidence. Are you willing to SHARE it?
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast Do some research on the ensatina salamander, How to confuse a creationist - 1 onaccept youtube. Watch this video and then accept your total pawn.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin Finally. Thank you, I will. That's all I wanted. Be back later...
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast "Maybe you meant talk origins (dot) org (have you actually been there?). I have and I have never found such proof."
So did you miss the page called "Observed instances of speciation"?
Also, see my video, "Fuzzy Logic and the Definition of Species."
shanedk 8 months ago
@petertrast '' I think chimps come from chimps and people from people'' And you're absolutly right, evolution doesn't oppose this lol
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@petertrast "I think chimps come from chimps and people from people,"
So does evolution. If it were otherwise, evolution would be FALSIFIED!
"But no one has ever found proof that speciation occurs through evolution."
Bullshit. It's been witnessed NUMEROUS times.
shanedk 8 months ago
@petertrast That one's covered in my book and series as well.
shanedk 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin And I am not trying to "discredit" modern biology, just asking for proof. Assumptions are not proof. Just because we see the Sun rise in the East and set in the West does not mean the Earth is the center of the universe. That is the kind of logic you are applying. Learn scientific method and get back to me. Names again, huh? You must be pissed off like the rest of the "believers" who dislike my requests for proof when you have none.
petertrast 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin Please tell me it is not the fence lizard... Behaviour changes and longer legs means evolution??? No. This is still adaptation unless genetic proof exists that the 2 are incompatible. None of the 14 papers I read on the fence lizard study brought up genetic studies to back up the claim of evolution. Maybe you have proof otherwise? Otherwise you are speculating on second hand information. Not science and not evolution until you can prove it.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast The evidence you want me to show you is an animal giving birth to a completly different animal, and it just won't happen! Cause that's not evolution! The american lizards I've talked to you about ARE genetically incompatible. They changed so much from the original lizards that they can't reproduce with them. Now go on the sites I've talked to you about and educate yourself.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin I never said I wanted to see an animal give birth to a different animal. I only asked for the cite where I can read about lizards who can no longer breed. If you refuse to help, I must assume you cannot, and are therefore dishonest about what you "know" and are relying on hearsay. Ran a search on lizard and found 29 articles, none detailing this supposed proof. Are you lying or misinformed? Just asking.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast typo... 49 articles
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast What a waste of time, I'm debating with someone who has the credibilty of a geocentrist!
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin We are not debating. I am asking for the cite and you refuse. That is not debate, it's assertion without proof. I am perfectly willing to listen but you refuse to share what you "know" with documentation. I searched, I have been searching my whole life, but no one ever puts forth proof. Will you be the first? I would love to see it.
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast By the way how am I the one who has the burden of proof? YOU'RE the nobody who objects to a theory that is backed up by more than 150 years of research and discoveries, supported by at least 98% of the scientific community and is the basis for our modern biology. Give ME evidence against evolution pal.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin I never said it was FALSE. I only asked for PROOF. Now I need to spend some time on ring species. And if the scientists will ever agree on what a "species" IS, we can get to the heart of the matter more quickly. Great info in the video, although making fun of people does nothing to sway the naysayers. Looks like strong supporting evidence at first glance. Time to search on ring species and salamanders and warblers! :)
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast I did not lie about the lizards for christ sake, do some better damn research and you'll find what I'm talking about.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin WHICH lizards??? I found several stories about lizards and evolution, NONE of them spoke of genetic proof, only LACK of it. If you would just say the SPECIES name, I could search for it. I research all the time but have never heard what you are speaking of. I am asking this small thing. Just cite the source and I will READ ALL OF IT... lol... you keep saying research but you cannot find something that does not exist. If you know it exists, why do you refuse?
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast I have an example in my book and series of one that evolved cecal valves in under 30 years after being moved to a new environment.
shanedk 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin You did not ask a question, you merely insulted me. Learn what science IS and IS NOT and we might be able to get down to the discussion. When you believe something that is not based on FACTS (all science, really) you need FAITH to give that belief substance. This ventures into the realm of philosophy, the domain of "religion". Maybe you should take a critical thinking, philosophy and debate class before you take up subjects over your head. A learning problem? More insults...
petertrast 8 months ago
@Reasonwillwin Learning problem? I have been an educator in many fields and I am used to dealing with people who think they "know" facts. Your arrogance (excessive self-esteem) blinds you to your own ignorance (lack of knowledge, not an insult). We don't even know what we don't know. We are small and infinitesimally insignificant. When has evolution been observed? Please spare me the fruit flies and wolves. Those are easily dismissed by scientific "method". Make more insults if you like...
petertrast 8 months ago
@petertrast ''Calling evolution a fact proves you do not know what science actually is'' NO, you're the uneducated fool who doesn't know what science is, the theory of evolution is the basis for our modern biology, go educate yourself.
Reasonwillwin 8 months ago
this type of video tends to indicate that there is no argument...get a grip...
phil4508 9 months ago
@phil4508
There is no argument!
Cootabux 9 months ago
@phil4508 Kent has never given himself any argument.This video actually shows how Kent talks and debates-he does neither.
Stevoukos 9 months ago
Let's hope he doesn't drop the soap
TardigradeOfDoom 9 months ago
IS everyone still talking about this guy? It's getting old. I mean we talked about Michael Jackson 6 times more that the 9/11 incident. That's sick.
Nashhinton 9 months ago
Why do you want to insult a great religonist ?
Reply to my comment
TheGirish16 9 months ago