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  • this is GOULD speaking

  • What's Richter's problem? Why does he always claim that he is playing badly?

  • I love the intensity of his face when playing the piano, Richter is one of my heroes.

  • Of course Gould does not like Schubert!!! Its so refined and sincere and so close to listeners heart there is no place for Gould's ego in between...

  • there are two kinds of musicians: those who approach music in a mathematical way like richter, gould, pollini... They never succeeded to be creative at there instrument and could only reproduce the score, sometimes in a nice way, but it stay's reproducing. The second kind is the "real" musician: playing with the heart, creative, personality, always "reshaping" the music so it stays "fresh". for example fiorentino, horowitz, cziffra, pogorelich, cortot.

  • @onlymusiciansallowed Dag Marcel!!Wel een beetje doorzichtig he maat.Zwakke cameo.

  • @onlymusiciansallowed I can only laugh at what you said. Not that I disagree with the last sentence, but all the other things you said are "just for laughs".

  • @onlymusiciansallowed - I find a tremendous amount of "heart" in the playing of Richter, Gould & Pollini.

    You may respond to one performer more favorably than another performer (and I think we we all do) but to say that one is "superior" is tantamount to saying that your own personal likes are superior.

  • @HowdyThere88 Here's a lil' epistomology; "my opinions are better than yours." that argument works due to the fact that it is circular. I bring it up because, that statement seems to be true to the human condition(subjectively-objecti­ve-subjectivity). Further, it is the basis of our solipsism(and tribalism, i.e. as an extension of egoism).

  • @x2f01mick - true.

    But its a ludicrous position for that person to hold.

    And its a potentially dangerous way of thinking.

  • richter is king over gould

  • he is trying to be a scholar lol

  • fuck you for your  changes there is now no piucturee

  • Richter was a pretty good piano player. Ah bleeb.

  • It's a strange experience to see Glenn's mouth moving and another person's voice doing the talking.

  • I do not believe that is Glenn Gould's voice. I think it was overdubbed.

  • @Burnsomatic Really?!!!!!!!

  • I believe this indeed is Gould, having a lark by affecting a quasi-Brit accent.

    The fundamental voice I believe is clearly Gould's.

    And I think he's dead spot on in his analysis of Richter's specific gift.

    Richter was Gould's favorite living pianist, but Schnabel was his favorite among pianists departed. And Schnabel shared with Richter an utter indifference towards virtuosic display for its own sake; in any case, Schnabel lacked the required technique, something no one would say of Richter.

  • just imagine if he was let loose on a trumpet!

  • Gledd Gould was a philosophic!

  • i guess richter doesn't believe in memorizing music

  • @mreldude I've read that he only sight read in concerts after some head trauma, or something like that (I know I'm wrong).

  • @mreldude i've heard he memorized the entire wtc book 2 in a month.

  • Richter is a god... and he creates us again in his own image...

  • Richter a été le premier à interpréter les sonates de Schubert, qui étaient reléguées au statut de musique ennuyeuse, sans intêret....Vraiment?

  • who's vioce is this talking?

  • It's hilarious how closely the dub has matched Gould's style of speaking. The voice is obviously different, but he has matched Gould's odd cadence perfectly.

  • well, at least he confesses that his ones are "prejudices"..

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  • Does anyone know why is he speaking in a whisper with a ridiculous English accent? Gould didn't actually sound anything like this, usually.

  • @fiandrhi I've heard him speak with an 'English' accent before, but don't know why. His eyes always settle to his left, and upward. Therefore, I believe he's performing the cue-card concerto.

  • @fiandrhi I thought maybe his voice was dubbed by somebody else. :)

  • @mmombeekpiano surely you jest?

  • The cheesy British accent belongs to some Gouldian persona, anyone know which one?

  • @dgillettnj Sounds like a younger and more sobered Sir Nigel Twitt-Thornwaite!

  • Time dimension of this movement succeeded by RICHTER , ONLY !! It is UNPARALLELED !

  • The thing about Richter...each note perfectly placed.

  • Richter was the best pianist ever lived. A fusion of virtuosity, sensibily, intelligence, heart, soul, everything.

    What a pity I was born too late to listen to him live...

  • @newFranzFerencLiszt I was at a concert Richter gave at the Festival Hall in London in the mid 70's. It was sold out of course and they put chairs on the stage to cater for the numbers. We sat just a few feet away from him. His last piece was the hammerklavier sonata by Beethoven with the huge fugal finale. For his encore, he played the entire final movement again. We decided that it must have been because he wasnt happy enough with his first performance of it.

  • @newgeorge hahaha yes, I've already heard about it... never satsfied, like a real genius, and everytime makes better. Listen to his Ballade no.4: there are several recording, and each one is better he the other one. London's one I think is the best... what a pity for the audio...

  • I think the Richters intention were to play a musical socre closely related to the original authors intentions, and not so much getting too interpretive or brining out voices in a piece, or altering the tempo, or to bring out a "different perspecitve" as Gould implied.

  • That's not Gould's voice. Its a voice over of what he was saying in the interview.

  • I think he is right. But variety is the spice of life.

  • wonderful!

  • en français quelqu'un peut traduire ?

  • Thanks for posting this!

    Classical music enjoyment doesn't get any better than Richter and Gould.

  • This clip is inspirational!

  • What a Treasure this is! I also wish it went on forever. Two wonderful towering presences who brought us such joy. Overwhelming! Thank you So Much for posting this.

  • God what a level, of musicianship and commentaries from Gould.

  • Sounds a bit like Monsaingeon, actually.

  • Did Gould really have an English accent, or is just affecting one?

  • @Malodorok Glenn Gould did not have a British accent. This clip has a voiceover with a Brit reading the subtitles whenever Gould is shown. What you hear is not Glenn Gould's voice.

  • @Tuskerman Are you serious? and that accent isn't british at all btw.

  • @Ianthe22 Seriously i don't think it sounds british at all.

  • @Ianthe22 To me the speaker sounds like James Mason (a Brit) doing an impersonation of Glenn Gould.

  • @Tuskerman If i checked the backfround of the video i might be able to know who's voice this is. But the man who's dubbing GG's voice is very well articulated and (at least in my ears) has very little accent in his voice.

  • @Tuskerman If i checked the background of the video i might be able to know who's voice this is. But the man who's dubbing GG's voice is very well articulated and (at least in my ears) has very little accent in his voice.

  • @Ianthe22 Yes, he speaks well, and has pleasant intonation.

    I am curious. Is your 1st language English? If so, where did you grow up? I am Canadian (like Mr Gould). To many Americans, we sound British; but among ourselves, we can pick out the difference. If you are British, you might hear a Canadian accdent because the speaker is trying to sound like Glen Gould.

  • @Ianthe22 A good sample of Mr Gould speaking is found at Youtube watch?v=bqBtSR9zLw8&feature=re­lated

    He is chatting with someone who has a British accent.

    (BTW I meant to type "accent" not "accdent" in my earlier reply to you)

  • @Tuskerman I agree. The video does set it all up very clearly. The dub'er in this video tries to speak like GG does. I don't think he speaks with the british accent as the interviewer does in the other video.

  • @Tuskerman I do understand what makes you think of James Mason. However, Mason had a more nasal sound and an underlying hint of his Yorkshire background,,,,,in my opinion that is. I certainly respect your view and can see how your arrived at it. Personally I think that this piece is very attractively spoken,,,and until I read the comments I had just accepted the voice as Gould's,,,,,never having heard him speak. Best wishes.

  • @Tuskerman -- Any idea why they used a voiceover? Gould's voice and intonation are so distinctive, and it's not as thought it's hard to understand his diction. It's a shame not to hear him directly here.

  • @algiardello

    Now I see that DesertAnnie explained the voiceover several months ago -- Gould's English had been translated into Russian and then had to be put back into English.

  • @algiardello I am just guessing here, but they are probably using footage of Gould that had originally been dubbed in Russian but then decided to dub a version for English-speaking audiences.

  • I think Richter loved this compliment by Gould. (If he had heard about it). Richter never wanted to be solely a "super-virtuoso", but also took allegedly easy pieces seriously.

  • btw, which category do you think Gould placed himself in? I would guess that it's the second

  • I'm sorry, your video description explains the overdub!

  • so weird that Gould's voice has been overdubbed (for rights protection reasons perhaps?) but it's okay because what Glen Gould is "saying" here is INCREDIBLY insightful!! Thanks for posting.

  • This is not Glenn Goulds voice !! What the fuck is the meaning of dubbing Gould´s voice ?!

  • This is Gould's words but not Gould's actual voice. Producer of this video dubbed someone else's voice

  • Gould nailed it of Richter. He doesn't play the piano, he plays music utilizing the piano. Great explanation....and thinker is G Gould! And the piece he mentioned Schubert D 960 in Bb Sonata. A true gift from on high. John-Hans Melcher

  • 今日、5時半から警備会社の面接だけど、

    いいもん見せて貰った〜

    ありがとうです!

  • did Gould wanted to say that is bad to use sheet music? dont understand some1 explain pls -.- and sry 4 english^^

  • @BassicStorm No what he means is that many performers add their own emotion and lack discipline in their instrument not technically but musically. Richter is a genius that stands out because he does not interpret the piece - to be a bit more accurate, Richter brings out the music's true qualities.

  • @Enix5548 So , he told that Richter is good? or that hes bad

  • @BassicStorm Basically he said Richter is good

  • @Enix5548 aaaaaaa lol i though he told hes bad ^^ thx 4 explanation , and sry if i bored you

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  • Gould sounds like Prince Charles

  • The translation from Russian is wrong.

    Richter does not say:

    "I just want to play good music"

    He says:

    "I just want to play music WELL"

    Big difference.......

  • While I can't play even close to the league of Richter or Gould, I find some comfort in that at least one of them shares my problems with memory of scores. Thanks for sharing this great video. It seems that Gould was prasing Richter for making an hour long Schubert sonata listenable, and Richter was dissing Gould for not appreciating Schubert. I also once heard, second hand, that Richter said he COULD play Bach like Gould, but that he would have to work too hard at it. Hooray!

  • i definitely agree w Gould that Richter's Schubert is hypnotic

  • "Live in Bologna"? Does such a recording exist? On disc, only know of Richter's live performances from Moscow, 3 May 1978, and London, 20 March 1989. And: what an incredibly humble man!

  • I never understood why this speech has bin dubbed...

  • He wasn't denouncing Richter, he was praising him the whole time. Gould was trying to make the point in the beginning that Richter did not just play to show virtuosity on the instrument, but he played and used the instrument as a vessel to help understand the music better. Great words from a crazy man lol.

  • @sniper2073 True genius knows true genius.

  • where are you gettin "fake" from?

  • @kczapper he never said Richter was fake, this is your own deluded fantasy

  • Gould with an English accent. Cute.

  • Haha ridiculous when Richter says "I just want to play good music, Shubert has nothing to do with what Gould said" Glenn really does talk alot, as a analytical thinker, and that makes him a amazing narrator, but Richters response sums it up perfectly, hes not trying consciously to express his personality, hes just trying to make music he thinks sounds as good as he can, not worried about showing his technique although he does so in the process, I think all great pianists share that attribute.

  • To all that may wonder why it doesn't sound like GG, read this: UPDATE re: the voice in this clip -- it turns out that this was taken from a Russian TV program, in which Gould originally spoke in English but was later overdubbed in Russian. The original English audio was lost, and it had to be re-overdubbed in English, using the text of Gould's comments (which is stored at the National Library of Canada). So while the voice is not Gould's, the comments are.

  • Thank you for the explanation!

  • @DesertAnnie Thank you very much :-)

  • Gould's manner of interpretation is still offsetting for me--I hope to appreciate it later in my life. However, I never heard a more precise and succinct description of the rank of order in regards to musicianship. Excellent insight.

  • Very interesting view of musicians

  • Doesn't sound like Gould ...

    ???

  • It wasn't Gould's voice, it is explaned by DesertAnnie above your comment : )

  • Ja — I wasn't paying attention.

    Richter the gay man musician is a God.

  • At the beginning of Shubert Piano Sonata in G major and when Sviatoslav press he's hand on the keyboard I believe that Shubert use the same tone from Beethoven Piano Concerto No.4 in G major at the same beginning too! that very clear indeed

  • @whomakemefeel I couldn't agree more.

  • what a great video. thanks so much for sharing. haven't been a huge schubert fan but richter's playing here is certainly a strong argument on the composer's behalf.

  • If you have not been "a huge schubert fan" you are lucky: you have a wonderful world to discover.

  • great video. Gould & Richter = phenominal ++

    Schubert died when he was only 31

    his music blows my mind

  • Yes, imagine if he lived till 80, how many more great pieces he'd have left with the world!!! I think he was the musician who suffered from poverty the most, because he was ripped off all the time : ( thank goodness Liszt and other great composers collected his work.

  • @brettishfan

    great indeed they did!

  • What Richter is doing here can only be considered phenomenal.

  • I wish this interview/documentary went on forever. I love listening to Gould talk (and play Bach and Beethoven of course) about music and Richter play it.

  • @TwelfthRoot2 Too bad thats not Gould talking,

  • @TwelfthRoot2 it would be nice if it was Gould's voice haha. He said the same words but this whole thing is a dub :)

  • In what category would Rachmaninoff (as pianist) be? I personally think the second, but I wonder what other people think.

    Also, Gould is definitely the second category.

    This could be just me, but I personally doubt Liszt was only in the first category: according to some descriptions of his piano playing, he was very musical (for example, I read he played Beethoven very well).

  • Man, Glenn Gould would be a great writer...

  • Yeah, he is very well spoken.  I love listening to his interviews.

  • Thanks for posting!

  • La sonata D894 tiene un antes y despues de Richter.

    The D894 is Richter' s before/after.

    Genio.

  • richter was so negative about him selff.

  • niiiiiiiice! this is from 'The Enigma', one of the best videos ever made about any pianist

  • I studied the Glenn Gould life and this info is great thanks a lot. Certanly Richter and Gould was a genios. All his life hard working only for music spirit.

  • er he clearly says demonic at .20

  • How he loved the Schubert repitoire... it did in fact speak to him.

  • Agree with LaVitaSphere, Gould himself belongs to the second category, though his style of interpretation is rather different, much more analythic in nature, while Richter's approach was more emotive and sentimental (as he states in one of his interviews the reason he left conducting was his lack of interest in alaysing music and managerial work). However both of them are creative musicians and interpreters, to my mind this is what unites them and puts them in the same category.

  • i believe gould himself is classed in the first category..dont you think so??

  • I actually think he'd be in the second. His methods of conveyance are the polar opposite of Richter, but they are of the same "type," IMO.

  • Gould is certainly in the second. He would NEVER place himself in the same category as Liszt, etc. He was very against the idea of hedonistic performance.

    Gould is absolutely in the second category.

  • yep, Gould would put Horowitz in the first category

  • bandong1234567890 is correct in a way, though I personally think Gould is not as superior.

  • That C note grips me every time (5:14 & 5:29). Of course, Richter plays it cantabile!

  • Such high praise from the great Glenn Gould. It reminds me of Schumann's lavish adoration of Chopin. Richter will always be the standard.

  • how about Martha Argerich?

  • Most certainly agreed, but Chopin will be the pinnacle. :-)

  • @jhoward1957

    Great generosity on the part of Gould and Richter certainly deserves the praise.

  • @jhoward1957 And Gould always will be the standard by himself...

  • Diplomacy at its finest.

  • Whoever did the dubbing could at least get Richter's name pronounciation right! How hard was that...

  • Ah, so it's not Gould! This explains the incorrect pronounciation of Richter's last name. Goddamit, if these people wanted to do a good job and restore the English version of the monologue they could at least get the pronounciation right... Or did Gould himself use that pronounciation? That'd be pretty sad.

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  • What would Glenn think of Martha Argerich?

  • IMO, Argerich is classed into first category. :D

  • I know for sure the voice belongs to Gould, interesting people think it's not

    Richter's schubert is the greatest btw!!

  • John Cleese right behind the Richter?

  • That is really wild. The voice, that is. Thank you so much for this video. I needed Gould to validate my love for Schubert, unfortunately.

  • oh my ! that page turning guy is scary

  • I wish people at work would learn a new.

  • Very good point that he made! Richter really is like that!

  • Thanks for pointing out that the voice is not Gould's... I thought he was "pulling a Madonna..."

  • Sensational, dubbed or not....they're HIS words

  • thats not his voice

  • Fascinating, to hear 'the one' pianist commenting on 'the other' one.

    Merci.

  • Where is this video from?

    Where do you take this mixed version?

  • "richter: the engima"

  • oh shit, I forgot to actually read the video description, lol! Its just re-overdubbed from the russian footage...

  • is that really glenn gould's voice? It sounds suspicious...

  • that aint his voice

  • it's not his voice, read the video description

  • Definitely it's NOT his voice.

  • lol, so that's why Gould was "speaking" in such an odd voice. Thanks for the extra info

  • My God!

  • Wow, powerful words. Should be quite wonderful to have something like this said about you...

  • I just started a biography on Richter and I stumbled on this video. My two favorite pianists of all time! Thank you to pOlyphOny!

  • This is amazing! I am now reading a biography of Richter and I just happened to stumble on this video.  Oh, I am so happy! My two favorite pianists of all time. Marvelous.

  • Yes, always wonderful to actually hear Gould's voice.

    Excellent idea northicekate.

  • Wouldn't it be interesting (and should be technically feasible) to record every word Glenn Gould has spoken through his radio, television, video productions by him and others, then create an audio dictionary and dub in his voice over this video (using speech recognition/generation software)?

  • Great idea, northicekate! I wonder if it could be done with just youtube footage....

  • If you can capture his voice from youtube footage, then I think it can be done. Make words correspond to .wav files (or other audio file formats) and then put the .wav files together to make "coherent" speech - and just guess who would have loved to do this (in twenty questions or less) - since it could involve audio splicing?

  • He would certainly approve of such an undertaking as well, eh?

  • I am sure of it as he was a champion of technology.

  • Wonderful and very interesting.

    Thanks for posting.

  • This isn't Glenn's voice.

  • You're right; it's not Glenn's voice.

    I've heard his own voice enough times on documentaries he had put together and/or participated in.

    That one is not genuine.

    PS: Furthermore, Gould never would've said "Reesh-ter."

    He was educated enough to know the proper cultural pronounciations of his fellow pianists (such as Slava "Reeh-tehr")

  • I have found out the reason for the strange audio; please see the updated video description.

  • @McRat1968 im pretty sure this IS his voice......

  • @Lity10

    Well, you're mistaken. I guarantee it.

  • @McRat1968 yeah sorry, didnt read description. lol

  • @McRat1968 This is almost certainly real footage of Gould with his voice. Bruno Monsaingeon was meant to have researched archived footage for hours whilst making The Enigma. Both artists had previously shown immense respect to eachother I don't see what would make it unbelievable. The ideolect is unmistakably Gould's own; you can hear his accent beneath it and who else would say 'of more recent vintage'?