The emasculation and the burning of the entrails were done while alive, but the quartering was done after beheading - mostly sdo the bits could be displayed at various locations. Goes right back to before William Wallace 1305. Later on they became a little more civilized and did the evisceration. For reasons of public decency - they burned women at the stake instead.
Government is not natural to humans. We prefer an open system of individual responsibility, but unfortunately there is a flaw in the human genome, and some individuals come into being with the need to control and parasitize others. They have no thought for the terrors and sorrows of the wars they cause. They are called narcissists, psychopaths, sociopaths and world leaders.
Holy mother fucker....can't imagine what it must feel like being half dead by hanging, then have your balls and penis ripped right in front of you and you're still alive. All that lack of oxygen in brain because of choking would make it extra difficult to cope with the pain of detesticulation. I hope they killed that poor soul before "quartering" his body.
No different really to any execution.. They end up dead, look at the nations of Europe, I think all but two have banned executions, and we shaped the world!
@wankerpanther Because her father was a king and therefore she was sent BY GOD to rule over England. That's what they believed. It was god's will that a woman ruled England. But yeah, it is pretty hypocritical.
@wankerpanther She was of Royal Blood, this made her special and above even all other men...that's the way things were seen back then. Ordinary women were still treated like crap!
I personally prefer the Wild Western days where Justice came at the hands of a wronged man's fellow men gunning down the criminal on the spot. No trial. No politics. Just lead.
We've gone form a country which hanged, drew and quartered people for treason, boiled people to death for poisoning and coining, and which also burnt people at the stake for heresy.......to a country which gives games consoles, gym access, daytrips out and family visits to murderers. Welcome to (not so great) Britain!
@englishguy2010 not to mention letting rapists who call themselves journalists a country manor for punishment, and letting them continue to essentially steal with impunity. DEATH TO WIKILEAKERS!!!!!
Yeah! The list is endless isn't it? Britain used to rule the world. It was feared, respected , all mighty, all powerful. Ruthless to its enemies and its strength was unbounding. Yet look at us now. We're (or at least used to be) Americas bitch, even FRANCE has more backbone than us, our government spend all its time grovelling to the Middle East and, as I've previously stated, our criminals are treated like children and pampered. It makes me sick!
@englishguy2010 England has never been, as you say, Americas bitch. As an American, we consider England a friend and close ally. Many here a fascinated with her rich history and there has always been admiration, admitted or not. Do not sell either of our counties short just yet.
I meant in a political sense, mainly during the 'special relationship' between Bush and Blair. Blair was subservient to Bush, must to the annoyance of his people - myself included. BUT.......I do know what you mean. So many Americans whom I've chatted to online have indeed been so into English history, accents, traditions ect. It's really nice.
@mackshayster There has yet to be presented "factual" evidence behind the rape allegation. It remains purely heresay of women who, in all likelihood, were offered 'incentives' for assisting in efforts to tarnish the image of wikileaks. The timing of the allegation was all-too convenient - they only realized they'd been "raped" when the accused became famous? There have been cases where supposed victims were later proven to suffer attention-seeking disorders .. the timing suggests this is one.
@paulinesmith44 It didn't put anyone off in Scotland at all, King Robert I of Scotland was equally, if not, more brutal to his English enemies on battlefield. An interesting read is what happened to Englishman Andrew Harclay, 1st Earl of Carlisle.
in the case of william wallace . he was seen as such an influencual figure that the monarchy of the time thought it was not good enough to just have him hung drawn and quartered but to post 4 parts of his body on spikes throughout the land as a deterrant to others ..heck it didnt put robert the bruce off :)
Apparently the Gunpowder plotters also had their urinary tracts blocked with molten wax so they couldn't pee for the last few days of their incarceration. They were probably glad when the end came.
@popazz1 This was no different than what other Monarchs were doing in France, Spain etc. These people were thugs plain and simple, absolute dictators! Hitler would have found them good company...
@goodgirlkay One has to take such things that happened centuries ago within the context of the times in which they occured. Back then there were multiply people waiting in the wings to overthrow a ruler and seize power so they had to appear as tough and ruthless. Such actions served as a warning to others and is how they kept hold of their power.
It is believed that sciences and education does make people more civilise. Science was a dim candle back in those days, where supernatural believes ruled societies. It is shocking that just a few centuries ago, human was not that far different from animals. It is safe to say that we've made so much progress with sciences and thus our civilisation, we're living in an age of enlightenment, an age of daylight.
Did you know, that when Elizabeth watched the first execution of hanged drawn and quartered, she was horrified. Especially on the part when the guys dick was cut off and stuffed in his mouth. Later she changed the execution style to be less brutal, while still under the same routine.
@TheLoyalOfficer Treason was very widely defined and even speaking of the Queen's death (even by natural causes) could have been construed as treason. Catholics could be easily convicted of treason. There was a question often administered to Catholics the bloody question - "If the Pope sent an army to invade England who would you support - the Pope or the Queen." It was an impossible question to answer without compromising either your religion or your country.
Now that's gotta hurt. If obama thought this would happen to him when caught...Do you think he'd change his muzzie ways??? You bet he would in a heart beat. Too damn bad this doesn't happen here in the states for Treason. Look at Illinois, they just got rid of the death penalty... That's gotta make those gang banger happy huh??? This PC world had better end soon or it'll be the death of America...The UK too. You guys have become much too liberal too. Bring back those days or the muzzies will.
@Travisab1 The statistics in Australia show the murder rate here has dropped considerably over the last 20 years. No one has been executed here since the 1960s. Can the states in the US who retain the death penalty show a similar decline in murder rates?
@brontewcat Bront. I went to Darwin back in 1962. I was on the USS Bausell DD 845 and we were the first American ship in Darwin in 8 years. The Queen came to our ship to meet the Captain and the Commodore Crutcher. She had a string of new 1951 fords in her parade. Those new Ford had less than 100 miles on them. I love Australia. I've still got a lot of friends from Australia that come here to the Rally every couple of years. My Aussie friends tell me of Australia. Lot of crime since gun ban.
@Travisab1 The crime statistics released ta few weeka ago show there has been a dramatic fall in all crimes except assault over the last 10 years at least in NSW. See ABC news - Feb 18. Victorian statistics show a dramatic change in assault . Google it if you don;t believe me.
@brontewcat Bront. When Australia's citizens were armed they were Australian Patriots. Since your government disarmed you folks...You've become peasants. Say 200,000 muzzies were to attack to start with Sidney. These muzzies are armed to the teeth with the best of the bet weapons. Within two months these 200,000 muzzies would own Australia. You claim the murder rate is down...Could be your country is being set up to take a big fall. These muzzies could move freely there planting bombs everywhere
@Travisab1 I assume by muzzies you mean my brother and sister Muslims I am Christian BTW but take Jesus's teachings seriously - your muzzies are my fellow citizens. I have no idea what you are talking about - most Australain have always been laconic about concepts such as patriotism and most of us, including the majority of Muslims, do not own weapons . We don't need your fearmongering please. BTW this is a history video not a political site
From what I have read of Elizabeth's biographies the condemned were rarely cut down alive and kicking. Normally they were hanged until dead or unconscious. However in one instance QE1 ordered the full sentence for the 1st 6 of the Babington conspirators. The crowd was so appalled at the cruelty of the full sentence the next day the rest were cut down read. The crowd's reaction suggest they were not used to seeing the whole thing and confirms the biographies.
The poster should at least learn that the past participle of "hang" (as a means of execution) is "hanged", not "hung". Flaming bloody illiterates.... We hung on her words -- fine. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care -- fine.
Hung is correct. If a person were hanged, they'd have been killed by hanging... these people haven't died by hanging, they've still been alive afterwards so they've been hung
@abbadeemus "Hung" is not correct. People of my parents' generation knew this. Anglophones forgot somewhere between 1940 and 1980 that "hanged" is the only correct term when referring to dangling _people by the neck_. (A work of art can be hung; a male human can be "well-hung". ) The standard phrase in court is/was for decades, "there to be hanged by the neck until dead". The implication is that one could be _hanged_ but NOT until dead, as in "hanged, drawn and quartered".
I agree with other comments. Extreme muslims are so into beheading and use it all around the globe to terrorize everyone who isn't of their faith... they should loose some of their own in the same fashion ~ if it's right for them, is it right for all?? Idiots.
really indulging in scadenfreude! Mel Gibson catholic "affecionado" anti British, (Patriot, brave heart et al. )I'm english watching that film it showed english soldilers like the ss, we fought against the fascists,it seems Mel thinks I'm one of them all along! Now it seems he is anti Jewish also! the irony is: he has an anglo-saxon surname! haha! Jeez what a phony, oh! and a catholic fanatic! what next Mel? re-introduction of the inquisition?
I've heard one historian comment that the means of execution may have been so extremely gruesome because death itself was so common. A wave of disease usually swept through every summer, treatment for infection was pretty near non-existent, and many died before age 50. So the historian said, most were more concerned about a good death, rather than avoiding death, as death was always very near. So the gruesomeness of executions was the deterent, not the result (i.e., death).
It's all part of society. We are naturally cruel, and this was where they wanted ABSOLUTE control. Beheading was just as bad, think of it, when they would raise the head and hold it over the crowd, majority the time the brain was still working. So eyes the victim would stare at the crowd, mouth would move etc. HDQ was the worse of it, and it was their way to have control over the general society.
Damn, gone on with your bad self girlfriend. Ok is this before or after you had your boyfriend executed??? Hey Im just asking. anyway THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD HURT LIKE HELL.
@Noodles37UK hey be nice there would be a police force in england without them. But i get what ur tryin to say and i half agree with you to a point. God im so glad iman american. Don't answer that. But sometimes Mp's just need to back the hell up and let people live there lives.
@countrywillneverdie In my country, most people have realised how seriously corrupt and sanctimonious they are. The expenses scandal made Britain realise it's not like the old days anymore when an MP at least passed for a decent person. The country's in an appalling mess and not in the cliched sense either. They've become total control freaks too.
@Noodles37UK No, bitchy redheads deserve this! Just kidding. The world is a fucked up place, though. No one ever gets what they deserve. Joseph Mengele died peacefully in Paraguay, I think.
At this same time the Algonkian Indians were stripping the flesh off joints,face and body with mussel shells,chucking the meat into a fire,then disembowelling and finally burning the man alive.Many English settlers endured this cruelty.
"The punishment for such treachery had to fully represent the seriousness of the act hence the ghastly nature of the procedure of being hung, drawn and quartered."
FWIW, it seems to be based on a combination of the descriptions of the death of Judas Iscariot in Matthew 27 (hanging) & Luke 1 (disembowelling). Judas being the arch-traitor, it would make sense for his death to be adopted as the punishment for high treason in England.
Humane treatment of criminals is an very recent idea.
I like most of it; but I would instead burn them to death after disemboweling them. Decapitation is too quick and merciful.
Either that, or place them in a cage after disemboweling and set upon them no less than 2000 rats, which have been deprived of food for one week prior to the execution.
"For Tudors, treason was the worst of crimes, which deserved the worst of punishments" except when they did it. Henry VI came to the crown by treason, and solicited treason to find allies to fight against the lawful king Richard III.
My THIRD GRADE teacher taught us that pictures are hung, people are hanged, to say otherwise was obscene. Of course, we had no idea what obscene meant at the time. If you think that the Tudors were cruel, read up on Russia, and the Spanish Inquisition. It was either Peter the Great or Ivan the Terrible who had giant frying pans & pots made so they could sautee or boil someone to death. Ken Follett describes the flaying of a man - taking a man's skin off while he was alive. Sick mnds, all.
It was Peter the Great, even if others may have have done it. Flaying alive was an Oriental punishment - the Assyrians used it for rebellion. The Tudors merely used the death penalty for treason that had been use since 1283.
Burning alive was not dreamed up by Catholics or any other Church ; it's laid down once in the Old Testament, and was decreed in 297 AD by the Emperor Diocletian (who was not a Christian BTW) to suppress Manicheeism.
This was a reading of (part of) an execution warrant. Otherwise, nothing was "explained." I want to see the bowel drawn forth from a half-dead bishop... is sensation retained as a loop of intestine is placed upon a brazier ... does shock mitigate or preclude such pain. If we can't have burning bowel, please give us a dram of blood.
And holy jumpin' friggin' Mary -- it's "hanged." A grumpy and flatulent former copy editor says so.
@globehunter2: Unless it's phsyical and or mental torture. Beheading is most likely a more alleviating form of execution than say being impaled on a wooden stake and left to dies for days on end.
The punishment of being drawn and quartered was pretty accurately depicted in one of the latest versions of a biography of Elizabeth 1, where Elizabeth was played by Helen Mirren. The conspirators in the Babington plot were drawn and quartered in this version and it was pretty accurate. What a horrible thing that must have been to endure.
This punishment was for the worst crime that could be committed - that of treason. Even murderers were just hanged.
But they shouldn't have plotted to murder her then, should they? She didn't have people executed without good reason, unlike her sister Mary who had more than 400 people burned at the stake for the sole "crime" of being a Protestant.
If Elizabeth were to have been as assertive as her half sister in such matters, it would have torn the country apart! Aside from that, there was always the looming threat of surrounding Catholic nations invading you. Mary was able to execute more people because she had Catholic political support.
Caesar95 the English was actually very civillized but everyone country back then was barbaric scum all because of God and what they beleived thank god its differant now and there are still countries that are very barbaric and Caesar95 what country do you come from?
yes william wallice was feared i am English and i beleive that he didn't deserve what he dot hung drawn and quarterd just for fighting for scotlands freedom a sad story in my mind scotland didn't deseve what they got and im glad they fought against us english they showed that every man is equal
Wallace was a hero, no doubt about that but see things from Edward the first's point of view. He had the job of keeping his kingdom in order and had he let Wallace off easy then he would have been seen as weak and thus, he could have had many more rebellions to deal with (though he did die soon after wards).
I think Brave-heart was very unfair to Edward who, in my opinion, was a strong king and a far better one than many who preceded him and would follow.
@malicant123 i do agree with u tho im just saying no man deserves that just for fighting for freedom everyone deserves the right of freedom but i must admit things were differant back then.
You are quite correct, Wallace did not deserve that end for what he did. But, like you say yourself, they were different times with different ideas of justice.
i heard from a history teacher in highschool, that the executions (ones during the french rev. though) were like going to the movies. it was entertaining to the people, even if it was gruesome.
A little sidenote about Guy Fawkes. He was sentenced to be drawn and quartered, but cheated it. After they hung him and brought him down, he was still conscious and jumped off the platform while the rope was still around his neck. This broke his neck and killed him instantly.
Breaking on the wheel was a nasty european torture,tied to a cartwheel and have every bone they could get to smashed to a pulp with a sledgehammer,it took hours
this is hardly specific to england. executions on the european continent were a lot more cruel. take the classic example of damiens at the start of foucault's discipline and punish
Damiens was tortured first with red-hot pincers; his hand, holding the knife used in the attempted assassination, was burned using sulphur; molten wax, lead, and boiling oil were poured into his wounds. Horses were then harnessed to his arms and legs for his dismemberment. After several hours they had to cut them off. Damiens was then dismembered. His torso, apparently still living, was then burnt at the stake. happy?
More horrendous than having his penis and balls cut off and his belly slit open to have his intestines pulled out bit by bit, then while he was still alive his chest slit open so his heart could be cut out?
If you are a monarch and a fellow monarch is plotting to kill you and take your throne, who has the influence of two superpowers (France and Spain), and a seductive power over your enemies at court. What would you do?
@deloufu all the royal families of england right back to the saxon kings have been bat shit crazy its because of the inbreeding, the same thing happened with the roman emperors
William Wallace was Braveheart wasn't he? Urgh - Edward I was a bastard >=( He killed Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf as well [last Prince of Wales, apart from Owain Glyndwr]
LOL-no, Braveheart was Mel Gibsons totally ludicrous version of WIlliam Wallace-NEVER take a Gibson films as factually accurate-The Patriot,Braveheart, all totally absent of facts
@bulked actually never take a christian's interpretation of anything seriously. sorry I have faith I just had a senseless and stupid quarrel about evolution with a SMART human being and it was depressing. I was on poor ass Darwin's side. 99% know him, 0,2% hates him, 0,0000008% respects him. FUCK humanity.
@bulked First Braveheart wasnt intended to be a documentary. Second, by all I have read of the period over many years, Edward I did invent this cruelty of hanging, drawing and quartering for William Wallace.
@Smokie1960 Whilst not disputing Edward's extreme cruelty, I have seen references to this form of execution dating to the times of his father Henry III - although I am not a medievalist so I may be wrong.
@alanheath Nothing is new under the sun, I'm sure it was so even in Edward's time. When people say he invented it for William Wallace most likely they meant it became the Official Punishment for treason when it was done to William Wallace.
@Smokie1960 I think it was the Treason Act 1351 that stipulated this punishment although it was first used on someone who tried to kill Henry III some 100 years earlier. No doubt Edward in his bitter hatred of Wallace demanded it for him.
@Smokie1960 : Edward I did introduce this infamous way of capital punishment, and the Welsh prince Dafydd ap Gruffydd, younger brother of Llywelyn ap Gruffydd, was the first person to be sentenced for high treason and thus to being "hanged, drawn and quartered" in Shrewsbury on 3 October 1283.
@alanheath "Whilst not disputing Edward's extreme cruelty, I have seen references to this form of execution dating to the times of his father Henry III - although I am not a medievalist so I may be wrong."
You could be right. I have a dim memory that it was first performed on a pirate about a hundred years before Wallace.
Is the First Elizabeth connected to the current Elizabeth II?
jaytrosvig 1 day ago
I would hang the following:
Billy Bragg
George Galloway
Ken Livingstone
Harriet Harman
Ed Milliband
Terry Christian
Ken Loach
Ed Balls
karezza6 1 week ago
geez guys that deal sounds a bit overkill what happened a good boof over the head and be done with it
DJHastenz 1 week ago
extremely cruel woman that Elizabeth
TheSleepykitten 3 weeks ago
@TheSleepykitten George Washington would also draw and quarter people during the American Revolutionary War.
Kevin32001 2 days ago
this is great. It should be done to all the scumbags in this country which have made britain not great any more
thewelly1973 3 weeks ago 2
Is it me or is most of Londons history jus f#@* up?
c323able 1 month ago
If there ever was a time to beg to be burned at the stake, it would be when you were looking at being hanged, drawn and quartered!
TheCrazyhorse36 1 month ago
lol,they should still do it today to traitors in this country, and theres alot of em.
KingRyan7 2 months ago
The emasculation and the burning of the entrails were done while alive, but the quartering was done after beheading - mostly sdo the bits could be displayed at various locations. Goes right back to before William Wallace 1305. Later on they became a little more civilized and did the evisceration. For reasons of public decency - they burned women at the stake instead.
Exhorbitus 2 months ago
yuck... it's the lack of sun that makes them crazy!!!!
MaxC17 2 months ago
You want fries with that?......
Escul1960 2 months ago
Government is not natural to humans. We prefer an open system of individual responsibility, but unfortunately there is a flaw in the human genome, and some individuals come into being with the need to control and parasitize others. They have no thought for the terrors and sorrows of the wars they cause. They are called narcissists, psychopaths, sociopaths and world leaders.
PsilliPig 2 months ago 6
@PsilliPig And yet, we need to be governed, only not without a voice.
1958debs 3 days ago
she missed out emasculation...
indieRPF 2 months ago
too bad they don't allow this anymore
AznInsurrection777 3 months ago
Is she made out of wax? Because she never moved.
lem0n2lime 3 months ago
Holy mother fucker....can't imagine what it must feel like being half dead by hanging, then have your balls and penis ripped right in front of you and you're still alive. All that lack of oxygen in brain because of choking would make it extra difficult to cope with the pain of detesticulation. I hope they killed that poor soul before "quartering" his body.
Writerandartiste 3 months ago
"Hanged" is the term not hung! A person is can be "hung" a person committing treason is to be "hanged" till death lol.... That is all
davisfontanes 4 months ago
your dick and balls were cut off first, and burnt, it was symbolic.
women were not done like this but burnt, hanged or beheaded.
davh1231 4 months ago
Where can I find this entire documentary?
nickpoop93 5 months ago
That smarts.
Adventurestud 5 months ago
It's "Hanged" not "Hung".
JenAndEric1008 5 months ago
No different really to any execution.. They end up dead, look at the nations of Europe, I think all but two have banned executions, and we shaped the world!
YesIamEccentric 5 months ago
fucking reptiles
Drizzlerman 6 months ago
How come women were not allowed to vote, work or have any social status yet they had a Queen bossing everyone around? Pretty hypocritical me thinks.
wankerpanther 6 months ago
@wankerpanther Because her father was a king and therefore she was sent BY GOD to rule over England. That's what they believed. It was god's will that a woman ruled England. But yeah, it is pretty hypocritical.
neekorocks 6 months ago
@wankerpanther Nobody was allowed to vote.
Midnightrambler3760 6 months ago
@wankerpanther She was of Royal Blood, this made her special and above even all other men...that's the way things were seen back then. Ordinary women were still treated like crap!
goodgirlkay 4 months ago
I personally prefer the Wild Western days where Justice came at the hands of a wronged man's fellow men gunning down the criminal on the spot. No trial. No politics. Just lead.
ccondor97 6 months ago
We've gone form a country which hanged, drew and quartered people for treason, boiled people to death for poisoning and coining, and which also burnt people at the stake for heresy.......to a country which gives games consoles, gym access, daytrips out and family visits to murderers. Welcome to (not so great) Britain!
englishguy2010 6 months ago
@englishguy2010 not to mention letting rapists who call themselves journalists a country manor for punishment, and letting them continue to essentially steal with impunity. DEATH TO WIKILEAKERS!!!!!
mackshayster 6 months ago
Yeah! The list is endless isn't it? Britain used to rule the world. It was feared, respected , all mighty, all powerful. Ruthless to its enemies and its strength was unbounding. Yet look at us now. We're (or at least used to be) Americas bitch, even FRANCE has more backbone than us, our government spend all its time grovelling to the Middle East and, as I've previously stated, our criminals are treated like children and pampered. It makes me sick!
englishguy2010 6 months ago
@englishguy2010 England has never been, as you say, Americas bitch. As an American, we consider England a friend and close ally. Many here a fascinated with her rich history and there has always been admiration, admitted or not. Do not sell either of our counties short just yet.
356butch 5 months ago
I meant in a political sense, mainly during the 'special relationship' between Bush and Blair. Blair was subservient to Bush, must to the annoyance of his people - myself included. BUT.......I do know what you mean. So many Americans whom I've chatted to online have indeed been so into English history, accents, traditions ect. It's really nice.
englishguy2010 5 months ago
@mackshayster There has yet to be presented "factual" evidence behind the rape allegation. It remains purely heresay of women who, in all likelihood, were offered 'incentives' for assisting in efforts to tarnish the image of wikileaks. The timing of the allegation was all-too convenient - they only realized they'd been "raped" when the accused became famous? There have been cases where supposed victims were later proven to suffer attention-seeking disorders .. the timing suggests this is one.
l30uNtyHuNtreZ 5 months ago
The punishment was to be hanged, drawn, quartered, THEN hung. A living person is hanged, a dead one (or an object) is hung, see?
KWHEBerkano 6 months ago
Yes, but everyone loves ERI.
molarmama5 7 months ago
@paulinesmith44 It didn't put anyone off in Scotland at all, King Robert I of Scotland was equally, if not, more brutal to his English enemies on battlefield. An interesting read is what happened to Englishman Andrew Harclay, 1st Earl of Carlisle.
segano1 7 months ago
in the case of william wallace . he was seen as such an influencual figure that the monarchy of the time thought it was not good enough to just have him hung drawn and quartered but to post 4 parts of his body on spikes throughout the land as a deterrant to others ..heck it didnt put robert the bruce off :)
paulinesmith44 7 months ago
@paulinesmith44 They did that to a lot of people, not just William Wallace...
goodgirlkay 4 months ago
@goodgirlkay i know but i was highlighting just how much further they were prepared to go
paulinesmith44 4 months ago
Apparently the Gunpowder plotters also had their urinary tracts blocked with molten wax so they couldn't pee for the last few days of their incarceration. They were probably glad when the end came.
sludgefingers 7 months ago
And if you survive all that then you might be let off,lol! Seems like you didn't f*ck around with the Liz 1,hahaha!
popazz1 7 months ago
@popazz1 This was no different than what other Monarchs were doing in France, Spain etc. These people were thugs plain and simple, absolute dictators! Hitler would have found them good company...
goodgirlkay 4 months ago
@goodgirlkay ,
Goes without saying!
popazz1 4 months ago
@goodgirlkay One has to take such things that happened centuries ago within the context of the times in which they occured. Back then there were multiply people waiting in the wings to overthrow a ruler and seize power so they had to appear as tough and ruthless. Such actions served as a warning to others and is how they kept hold of their power.
xexixk 4 months ago
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It is believed that sciences and education does make people more civilise. Science was a dim candle back in those days, where supernatural believes ruled societies. It is shocking that just a few centuries ago, human was not that far different from animals. It is safe to say that we've made so much progress with sciences and thus our civilisation, we're living in an age of enlightenment, an age of daylight.
avcomth 7 months ago
i'd prefer to die at battle or being tortured for rebelling against monarchy, than from some poxy illness.
deadlyram2k6 8 months ago
Anne Boleyn was found guilty of HIGH treason, Incest - yet she was beheaded.
To be hung, drawn and quatered sounds like something you would do to a chicken that is to be slaughtered... Good gracious!
overummqualified 9 months ago
@overummqualified Yes, but keep in mind, Anne was a queen, and her fate was Henry's choice, though she was innocent.
SamKat86 1 week ago
Damn....Medieval england sounds like present day Iraq, but ten times more brutal, in terms of capital punishment.
Aquarius01271992 9 months ago
Did you know, that when Elizabeth watched the first execution of hanged drawn and quartered, she was horrified. Especially on the part when the guys dick was cut off and stuffed in his mouth. Later she changed the execution style to be less brutal, while still under the same routine.
markusboyd3 9 months ago
cause Jesus Christ ws a traitor. I said I worshipped Satan.
returnoftheramble 9 months ago
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hts2008w10 9 months ago
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hts2008w10 9 months ago
Well... Don't commit treason then...
TheLoyalOfficer 10 months ago
@TheLoyalOfficer Treason was very widely defined and even speaking of the Queen's death (even by natural causes) could have been construed as treason. Catholics could be easily convicted of treason. There was a question often administered to Catholics the bloody question - "If the Pope sent an army to invade England who would you support - the Pope or the Queen." It was an impossible question to answer without compromising either your religion or your country.
brontewcat 10 months ago
Now that's gotta hurt. If obama thought this would happen to him when caught...Do you think he'd change his muzzie ways??? You bet he would in a heart beat. Too damn bad this doesn't happen here in the states for Treason. Look at Illinois, they just got rid of the death penalty... That's gotta make those gang banger happy huh??? This PC world had better end soon or it'll be the death of America...The UK too. You guys have become much too liberal too. Bring back those days or the muzzies will.
Travisab1 10 months ago
@Travisab1 The statistics in Australia show the murder rate here has dropped considerably over the last 20 years. No one has been executed here since the 1960s. Can the states in the US who retain the death penalty show a similar decline in murder rates?
brontewcat 10 months ago
@brontewcat Bront. I went to Darwin back in 1962. I was on the USS Bausell DD 845 and we were the first American ship in Darwin in 8 years. The Queen came to our ship to meet the Captain and the Commodore Crutcher. She had a string of new 1951 fords in her parade. Those new Ford had less than 100 miles on them. I love Australia. I've still got a lot of friends from Australia that come here to the Rally every couple of years. My Aussie friends tell me of Australia. Lot of crime since gun ban.
Travisab1 10 months ago
@Travisab1 The crime statistics released ta few weeka ago show there has been a dramatic fall in all crimes except assault over the last 10 years at least in NSW. See ABC news - Feb 18. Victorian statistics show a dramatic change in assault . Google it if you don;t believe me.
brontewcat 10 months ago
@brontewcat Bront. When Australia's citizens were armed they were Australian Patriots. Since your government disarmed you folks...You've become peasants. Say 200,000 muzzies were to attack to start with Sidney. These muzzies are armed to the teeth with the best of the bet weapons. Within two months these 200,000 muzzies would own Australia. You claim the murder rate is down...Could be your country is being set up to take a big fall. These muzzies could move freely there planting bombs everywhere
Travisab1 10 months ago
@Travisab1 I assume by muzzies you mean my brother and sister Muslims I am Christian BTW but take Jesus's teachings seriously - your muzzies are my fellow citizens. I have no idea what you are talking about - most Australain have always been laconic about concepts such as patriotism and most of us, including the majority of Muslims, do not own weapons . We don't need your fearmongering please. BTW this is a history video not a political site
brontewcat 10 months ago
From what I have read of Elizabeth's biographies the condemned were rarely cut down alive and kicking. Normally they were hanged until dead or unconscious. However in one instance QE1 ordered the full sentence for the 1st 6 of the Babington conspirators. The crowd was so appalled at the cruelty of the full sentence the next day the rest were cut down read. The crowd's reaction suggest they were not used to seeing the whole thing and confirms the biographies.
brontewcat 10 months ago
@brontewcat That is what I have heard, although some of the regicides of Charles I had to sufer the full horrors of being hung, drawn an quartered.
Popperite 10 months ago
@Popperite Yes I understand the full penalty was carried out on the one who were executed and I think also Guy Fawkes and his colleagues. Horrible
brontewcat 10 months ago
@brontewcat The most horrible thing you can think of really. Indeed. Not one of the nicer accomplishments of English culture.
Popperite 10 months ago
Mel "Gibson" must really be ashamed of his anglo-saxon name! as a son of Gib! why dosen't he change it haha!
alanvt1 11 months ago
The poster should at least learn that the past participle of "hang" (as a means of execution) is "hanged", not "hung". Flaming bloody illiterates.... We hung on her words -- fine. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care -- fine.
porcospino289 11 months ago
@porcospino289
Hung is correct. If a person were hanged, they'd have been killed by hanging... these people haven't died by hanging, they've still been alive afterwards so they've been hung
abbadeemus 7 months ago
@abbadeemus "Hung" is not correct. People of my parents' generation knew this. Anglophones forgot somewhere between 1940 and 1980 that "hanged" is the only correct term when referring to dangling _people by the neck_. (A work of art can be hung; a male human can be "well-hung". ) The standard phrase in court is/was for decades, "there to be hanged by the neck until dead". The implication is that one could be _hanged_ but NOT until dead, as in "hanged, drawn and quartered".
porcospino289 7 months ago
I agree with other comments. Extreme muslims are so into beheading and use it all around the globe to terrorize everyone who isn't of their faith... they should loose some of their own in the same fashion ~ if it's right for them, is it right for all?? Idiots.
jayneeandgracie 11 months ago
really indulging in scadenfreude! Mel Gibson catholic "affecionado" anti British, (Patriot, brave heart et al. )I'm english watching that film it showed english soldilers like the ss, we fought against the fascists,it seems Mel thinks I'm one of them all along! Now it seems he is anti Jewish also! the irony is: he has an anglo-saxon surname! haha! Jeez what a phony, oh! and a catholic fanatic! what next Mel? re-introduction of the inquisition?
alanvt1 1 year ago
screw that-use this on those extremist muslims. see how they like that
Hardrada88 1 year ago
Awww man, i was hoping for a live demonstration.
isamarine 1 year ago
I don't suppose there was to many muslim extremists, screaming and shouting on English soil in them days
sebastiansap2003 1 year ago
do this to Bradley Manning! Traitorous scum!
AmericanSupremacy1 1 year ago
They did this shit to William Wallace.
Downfacingdog 1 year ago
oh the pain
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thehumor 1 year ago
I've heard one historian comment that the means of execution may have been so extremely gruesome because death itself was so common. A wave of disease usually swept through every summer, treatment for infection was pretty near non-existent, and many died before age 50. So the historian said, most were more concerned about a good death, rather than avoiding death, as death was always very near. So the gruesomeness of executions was the deterent, not the result (i.e., death).
MsTruNorth 1 year ago 46
@MsTruNorth That is a very good argument which makes a lot of sense.
alanheath 11 months ago
It's all part of society. We are naturally cruel, and this was where they wanted ABSOLUTE control. Beheading was just as bad, think of it, when they would raise the head and hold it over the crowd, majority the time the brain was still working. So eyes the victim would stare at the crowd, mouth would move etc. HDQ was the worse of it, and it was their way to have control over the general society.
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Boy,whadda relief to have your head off!
cinedux 1 year ago
Damn, gone on with your bad self girlfriend. Ok is this before or after you had your boyfriend executed??? Hey Im just asking. anyway THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD HURT LIKE HELL.
countrywillneverdie 1 year ago
MPs deserve this.
Noodles37UK 1 year ago
@Noodles37UK hey be nice there would be a police force in england without them. But i get what ur tryin to say and i half agree with you to a point. God im so glad iman american. Don't answer that. But sometimes Mp's just need to back the hell up and let people live there lives.
countrywillneverdie 1 year ago
@countrywillneverdie In my country, most people have realised how seriously corrupt and sanctimonious they are. The expenses scandal made Britain realise it's not like the old days anymore when an MP at least passed for a decent person. The country's in an appalling mess and not in the cliched sense either. They've become total control freaks too.
Noodles37UK 1 year ago
@Noodles37UK No, bitchy redheads deserve this! Just kidding. The world is a fucked up place, though. No one ever gets what they deserve. Joseph Mengele died peacefully in Paraguay, I think.
DASW7 1 year ago
@DASW7 You know everytime I see his stupid schoolboy grin I just want to slap it off his annoying Nazi face?
Noodles37UK 1 year ago
first to suffer this execution was prince daffydd in 1283 , forgotton now by Mel Gibson!
alanvt1 1 year ago
@Strefanash we're talking 1500's England when this form of punishment was around. So shut the fuck up.
ArkiveX 1 year ago
. . . . . so much for england claiming to bea christian nation. Such barbarity is of the devil
Strefanash 1 year ago 2
very sexy
glowingnipple 1 year ago
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abbiesaurusrex 1 year ago
Gee...no wonder everyone so enthusiastically proclaims, "God Save the Queen!"
chrisman737 1 year ago
One evil sexy bitch. Don't mess with her.
Andrewjm3D75 1 year ago
Sounds fair enough, should bring it back, am sure Gordan Brown would be first in the list for Treason.
steve5123456789 1 year ago
At this same time the Algonkian Indians were stripping the flesh off joints,face and body with mussel shells,chucking the meat into a fire,then disembowelling and finally burning the man alive.Many English settlers endured this cruelty.
teufelstaub 1 year ago
@teufelstaub The norse "bloody eagle" is also quite fun, But I think it fell into disuse a long time before this.
greengrendel 1 year ago
@greengrendel Yes,sadly! Cheers!
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teufelstaub 1 year ago
"The punishment for such treachery had to fully represent the seriousness of the act hence the ghastly nature of the procedure of being hung, drawn and quartered."
FWIW, it seems to be based on a combination of the descriptions of the death of Judas Iscariot in Matthew 27 (hanging) & Luke 1 (disembowelling). Judas being the arch-traitor, it would make sense for his death to be adopted as the punishment for high treason in England.
Humane treatment of criminals is an very recent idea.
5355vbxjbj76rvn 1 year ago
Not to many muslim fanatics on the streets then i bet
mickyp1960 1 year ago 2
I like most of it; but I would instead burn them to death after disemboweling them. Decapitation is too quick and merciful.
Either that, or place them in a cage after disemboweling and set upon them no less than 2000 rats, which have been deprived of food for one week prior to the execution.
PhatFarm60 1 year ago
saddam husain got of lightly with just being hanged if he did what he did in tudor england then that would of been fun to watch
MBM111 1 year ago
"For Tudors, treason was the worst of crimes, which deserved the worst of punishments" except when they did it. Henry VI came to the crown by treason, and solicited treason to find allies to fight against the lawful king Richard III.
DonMeaker 1 year ago
bitch dont joke!!
soschadao 1 year ago
@soschadao I kid you not.
darred29 1 year ago
My THIRD GRADE teacher taught us that pictures are hung, people are hanged, to say otherwise was obscene. Of course, we had no idea what obscene meant at the time. If you think that the Tudors were cruel, read up on Russia, and the Spanish Inquisition. It was either Peter the Great or Ivan the Terrible who had giant frying pans & pots made so they could sautee or boil someone to death. Ken Follett describes the flaying of a man - taking a man's skin off while he was alive. Sick mnds, all.
darred29 1 year ago
@darred29
It was Peter the Great, even if others may have have done it. Flaying alive was an Oriental punishment - the Assyrians used it for rebellion. The Tudors merely used the death penalty for treason that had been use since 1283.
Burning alive was not dreamed up by Catholics or any other Church ; it's laid down once in the Old Testament, and was decreed in 297 AD by the Emperor Diocletian (who was not a Christian BTW) to suppress Manicheeism.
IMO, Electrocution is barbaric.
5355vbxjbj76rvn 1 year ago
@5355vbxjbj76rvn
The example Ken Follet used was in Pillars of the Earth - set in southwestern England.
darred29 1 year ago
William Wallace deserved this-he killed woman and children
RAGGAPUNK33 1 year ago
Wow, thats really nice way to die. Who the hell came up with this idea?
TaZ101SAGA 1 year ago
This was a reading of (part of) an execution warrant. Otherwise, nothing was "explained." I want to see the bowel drawn forth from a half-dead bishop... is sensation retained as a loop of intestine is placed upon a brazier ... does shock mitigate or preclude such pain. If we can't have burning bowel, please give us a dram of blood.
And holy jumpin' friggin' Mary -- it's "hanged." A grumpy and flatulent former copy editor says so.
Dammit.
MacLeamh 1 year ago
cunting church
steptoesaunt 1 year ago
Fucking church....
kiko21pt 1 year ago
Extreme punishment shows how cruel we humans can be! cutting off our heads and dismembering our bodies is the ultimate form of Evil.
globehunter2 1 year ago
@globehunter2 i agree. what the hell was wrong with that tudor family. they were all crazy.
elinheartstristin 1 year ago
@globehunter2: Unless it's phsyical and or mental torture. Beheading is most likely a more alleviating form of execution than say being impaled on a wooden stake and left to dies for days on end.
Thedoctor19000 1 year ago
hang drawn and quarterd is just soooo ickyyy !!!
muttzy1 1 year ago
Queen Elizabeth was a Slave owning toothless evil white supremacistic bitch
Applebaum 1 year ago
The punishment of being drawn and quartered was pretty accurately depicted in one of the latest versions of a biography of Elizabeth 1, where Elizabeth was played by Helen Mirren. The conspirators in the Babington plot were drawn and quartered in this version and it was pretty accurate. What a horrible thing that must have been to endure.
Theodorej1960 1 year ago
This punishment was for the worst crime that could be committed - that of treason. Even murderers were just hanged.
But they shouldn't have plotted to murder her then, should they? She didn't have people executed without good reason, unlike her sister Mary who had more than 400 people burned at the stake for the sole "crime" of being a Protestant.
KateFan 1 year ago
only 278, but, sorry. (for being annoying)
L2TheMAX 1 year ago
If Elizabeth were to have been as assertive as her half sister in such matters, it would have torn the country apart! Aside from that, there was always the looming threat of surrounding Catholic nations invading you. Mary was able to execute more people because she had Catholic political support.
RyJ 1 year ago
Queen Elizabeth was one of the greatest and most influential rulers of her time and judging her like that isnt going to bring anyone, anywhere.
esrapk 1 year ago
This prove one thing, English are a bunch of uncivilized barbaric scum
Caesar95 1 year ago 2
Caesar95 the English was actually very civillized but everyone country back then was barbaric scum all because of God and what they beleived thank god its differant now and there are still countries that are very barbaric and Caesar95 what country do you come from?
MAIDENrules100 1 year ago
No, it just proves you're an idiot.
KateFan 1 year ago
I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS SIR WILLIAM WALLACE DID NOT DESERVE THIS HE WAS AND STILL IS A HERO THE WHOLE OF ENGLAND FEaRED ONE MAN!!!
kulpey 1 year ago
@kulpey The movie Brave heart was a farce all though it was very entertaining.
regszikora 1 year ago
yes william wallice was feared i am English and i beleive that he didn't deserve what he dot hung drawn and quarterd just for fighting for scotlands freedom a sad story in my mind scotland didn't deseve what they got and im glad they fought against us english they showed that every man is equal
MAIDENrules100 1 year ago
@MAIDENrules100
Wallace was a hero, no doubt about that but see things from Edward the first's point of view. He had the job of keeping his kingdom in order and had he let Wallace off easy then he would have been seen as weak and thus, he could have had many more rebellions to deal with (though he did die soon after wards).
I think Brave-heart was very unfair to Edward who, in my opinion, was a strong king and a far better one than many who preceded him and would follow.
malicant123 1 year ago
@malicant123 i do agree with u tho im just saying no man deserves that just for fighting for freedom everyone deserves the right of freedom but i must admit things were differant back then.
MAIDENrules100 1 year ago
@MAIDENrules100
You are quite correct, Wallace did not deserve that end for what he did. But, like you say yourself, they were different times with different ideas of justice.
malicant123 1 year ago
i heard from a history teacher in highschool, that the executions (ones during the french rev. though) were like going to the movies. it was entertaining to the people, even if it was gruesome.
ryohayashi 1 year ago 2
the actress in this is by far the most beautiful vision of Elizabeth I i have seen in most of the documenteries ive watched about her
crazyashell125 2 years ago
A little sidenote about Guy Fawkes. He was sentenced to be drawn and quartered, but cheated it. After they hung him and brought him down, he was still conscious and jumped off the platform while the rope was still around his neck. This broke his neck and killed him instantly.
blackbtty123 2 years ago 2
@blackbtty123
They still drew and quartered him, but he was already dead
oblivious12123 1 year ago
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We need to bring this back.
Leadwerks 2 years ago
@Leadwerks Child murderers need to die this way.
BitterBarbara 2 years ago
Breaking on the wheel was a nasty european torture,tied to a cartwheel and have every bone they could get to smashed to a pulp with a sledgehammer,it took hours
davehoward22 2 years ago
this is how disgusting and cruel the english are, William Wallace never gave in, and took it even at that
hardly treason when hes not english, hes scottish, so he never betrayed his king, also he stood up for whats right
Rfc1Darryl 2 years ago
this is hardly specific to england. executions on the european continent were a lot more cruel. take the classic example of damiens at the start of foucault's discipline and punish
bikep0rn 2 years ago
More cruel that emasculating and then eviscerating while the person still lived?
Try it and then tell me that.
JeannieTomlin 2 years ago
Damiens was tortured first with red-hot pincers; his hand, holding the knife used in the attempted assassination, was burned using sulphur; molten wax, lead, and boiling oil were poured into his wounds. Horses were then harnessed to his arms and legs for his dismemberment. After several hours they had to cut them off. Damiens was then dismembered. His torso, apparently still living, was then burnt at the stake. happy?
bikep0rn 2 years ago
I'm aware what was done to him.
More horrendous than having his penis and balls cut off and his belly slit open to have his intestines pulled out bit by bit, then while he was still alive his chest slit open so his heart could be cut out?
I doubt it. Happy?
JeannieTomlin 2 years ago
I think you 2 should write an illustrated book on the History of Death Punishment and Torture
lawrencewraith 2 years ago
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id like to see her impaled on my cock! damn she is hot!
turgeo2004 2 years ago
Lol, but i fear she'd have razorblades up there for her entertainment! The Tudors where animals!!!
peachygotit 2 years ago
Soon to be brought back for avoiding paying you Council Tax!
Weston1968 2 years ago 7
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some sort of medieval shredder would have bin a better way
vetchlurker 2 years ago
Very nice, would you like an award for "Most Creative Idea for Methods of Execution"?!
therealcritic28 2 years ago
ye, if theres one going? im sure i could come up with some good ones
vetchlurker 2 years ago
XD never mind. . . some people just cant be dissuaded
therealcritic28 2 years ago
Yes it does predate the Tudors. This punishment was common for acts of treason or perceived acts of treason.
Saffron49 2 years ago
If you are a monarch and a fellow monarch is plotting to kill you and take your throne, who has the influence of two superpowers (France and Spain), and a seductive power over your enemies at court. What would you do?
ThePharaoho 2 years ago 2
To be honest with you it seems that the whole Tudor family was a couple of french fries short of a happy meal.
deloufu 2 years ago 58
@deloufu And that's why we love them :D
JWCJBONE 1 year ago
@deloufu all the royal families of england right back to the saxon kings have been bat shit crazy its because of the inbreeding, the same thing happened with the roman emperors
bigmanoooo1 1 year ago
william wallace had this done to him
welshlegend09 2 years ago 2
William Wallace was Braveheart wasn't he? Urgh - Edward I was a bastard >=( He killed Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf as well [last Prince of Wales, apart from Owain Glyndwr]
DistantDreamer93 2 years ago
Braveheart was modeled after William Wallace.
ImTehCookieMonsta 2 years ago
LOL-no, Braveheart was Mel Gibsons totally ludicrous version of WIlliam Wallace-NEVER take a Gibson films as factually accurate-The Patriot,Braveheart, all totally absent of facts
bulked 1 year ago 23
@bulked actually never take a christian's interpretation of anything seriously. sorry I have faith I just had a senseless and stupid quarrel about evolution with a SMART human being and it was depressing. I was on poor ass Darwin's side. 99% know him, 0,2% hates him, 0,0000008% respects him. FUCK humanity.
MisuOfArabonaClan 1 year ago
@bulked First Braveheart wasnt intended to be a documentary. Second, by all I have read of the period over many years, Edward I did invent this cruelty of hanging, drawing and quartering for William Wallace.
Smokie1960 11 months ago
@Smokie1960
I think mel gibson is just a perv, that's why he made that one hardcore sado masochistic porn movie.
adkinsjr 11 months ago
@Smokie1960 Whilst not disputing Edward's extreme cruelty, I have seen references to this form of execution dating to the times of his father Henry III - although I am not a medievalist so I may be wrong.
alanheath 11 months ago 15
@alanheath Nothing is new under the sun, I'm sure it was so even in Edward's time. When people say he invented it for William Wallace most likely they meant it became the Official Punishment for treason when it was done to William Wallace.
Smokie1960 11 months ago
@Smokie1960 I think it was the Treason Act 1351 that stipulated this punishment although it was first used on someone who tried to kill Henry III some 100 years earlier. No doubt Edward in his bitter hatred of Wallace demanded it for him.
alanheath 11 months ago
@Smokie1960 : Edward I did introduce this infamous way of capital punishment, and the Welsh prince Dafydd ap Gruffydd, younger brother of Llywelyn ap Gruffydd, was the first person to be sentenced for high treason and thus to being "hanged, drawn and quartered" in Shrewsbury on 3 October 1283.
HappyDay989 10 months ago
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@alanheath "Whilst not disputing Edward's extreme cruelty, I have seen references to this form of execution dating to the times of his father Henry III - although I am not a medievalist so I may be wrong."
You could be right. I have a dim memory that it was first performed on a pirate about a hundred years before Wallace.
oarfrost 10 months ago
@alanheath Yes, one of Katherine Howard's lovers was sentenced to be hung, drawn and quartered.
LunitaValeria 2 weeks ago
@bulked you forgot the passion of the christ in that respect.
omnivorous65 11 months ago
Im Related To Willaim Wallacee Threw Marrige!
KillKamKids 2 years ago