This is good, but again it contains lots of chops which is basically Shoto Garai in Jujutsu, aka the Knife Hand. It also doesn't seem to have any defence against high kicks, which are taught in Jujutsu. Furthermore, and much more importantly, it has no defence against the Jujutsu Nagewaza takedowns, aka Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
On the plus side, this seems much faster to learn, and doesn't contain much of the Kata/demonstration forms bullshit that plague Japenese Martial Arts.
Everything that is shown is in Japanese Ju Jitsu basically, it's not the most complete system ever but would get the job done none the less, especially back then when less people knew anything to do with hand to hand fighting.
why would your enemy try to bear hug you in war when they have there knife, there helmet, there shovel, there pistol, and of course there primary gun (unless they lost it), and lets not forget our fist and legs, they can even use there canteen if needed, or even there pack! ( if they carry alot of stuff in it). plus it would take a long time to kill someone with a bear hug plus it looks wierd.
we want to know all the secrets of CAMP X!!!! from the nazis being there to ian fleming!!! it must still be secret cause i aint finding nothin. someone do a movie about this place WE WANT WW2 FOOTAGE!! ENOUGH MASSIVE SECRETS!!!!
we want to know all the secrets of CAMP X!!!! from the nazis being there to ian fleming!!! it must still be secret cause i aint finding nothin. someone do a movie about this place WE WANT WW2 FOOTAGE!! ENOUGH MASSIVE SECRETS!!!!
we want to know all the secrets of CAMP X!!!! from the nazis being there to ian fleming!!! it must still be secret cause i aint finding nothin. someone do a movie about this place WE WANT WW2 FOOTAGE!! ENOUGH MASSIVE SECRETS!!!!
What do you do, if a german soldier is going to hug you? Fairbain knew the answer... I wonder if theres a german video: `How to hug your enemy/Wie man den Feind umarmt.´
What's the word that he uses when he refers to attacking the guy's groin? Sounds like "thok" or something. He uses it at around 0:06, 0:54 and 1:13. Some kind of British slang?
@Wavemaninawe lol vad är det i svenska? Its a bit unusual, its probably a term only used around that time, we certainly wouldnt use that term now, we would just say groin i think :)
@Wavemaninawe jag studera svenska och tack för det. I always mix up 'i' and 'på', the direct translation from english never works there does it, sounds like 'what is it on swedish'. :)
this guy is a legend and these are lethal techniques, i just rented online a couple of carl cestri videos from goldstarvideo and they are good. i also notice they have some damian ross stuff . you may want to buy it instead of renting because it is worth it , money is just a little tight for me
my dad was a mercenary for the cia in vietnam and alot of those moves are the real deal trust me ive used em... screw the kidney chop and an eye gouge is the best simple thing you can do but unless you there trying to kill you dont do to hard or you gonna be spending time in prison for blinding them
@shane220222 Hmm... it seems everyone on Youtube watching these videos has a dad or brother or friend in the Seals, SAS, or was something like "a mercenary for the cia."
wtf ever a little nerd loser.. i ran into this vid not by looking for it i seen it all done is a usa style variant just tought i was telling people its not bs and as for you... your a bitch and cant fight for shit or else you would know those move would kill the fuck out u.. oh and did i say ur a little bitch
@shane220222 Yeah, I know those moves would "kill the fuck out of u," you dumbass redneck.
Did youy drop out of the trailer park's homeschool literacy program or something, or were you born a clusterfuck? And I don't care how you found this video or if you've "seen it all done."
All I did was call bullshit on the whole "my dad was a cia mercenary," which you just decided to not defend.
lol the reason i didn't defend it because i could care less if you u think im a phony lol i was just calling u out cus your a bitch who has daddy issues lol.. as for the trailer park you need to move your broke ass out your momma's house in your "subdivision"
Yeah cause Germans sure were brave in world war 2. I would call German-Style murdering innocent men, women and children by the millions, but whatever you say.
btw....this is all still theoretical, for example...Just because you hit someone in the kidney, or other vulnerable points does not mean your vctory is sealed. The human body is much tougher than that...we had to withstand savage attacks from beasts in our primordial days... if you don't have a weapon you're better off choking to death, gouging eyes won't kill someone, all it will do is get a bloody mess all over your hands LMAO.
No I have not, and thanks for putting me down and reminding me that I'm a good-for-nothing draft dodging civilian hippie. From the generation Who is too much of a coward to serve their own damb country these days to not even have the fuckin courtesy to do a fuckin favor by serving. Thank you
I knew Colonel Applegate when I was a little girl. I remember being absolutely fascinated with him and his weapons collection whenever my father and I visited. I love that I could find this video on Youtube.
anyone else can see more than a few connections between this and 'Krav Maga' and none with the flowery crap many MA system inflicts upon it's students?
Just goes to show, there's nothing new in the realm of hand 2 hand combat - just ass holes who make it cool/ pretty to attract 'tough guys' and 'karate' moms to McDojos... Wasted months in classes like that - 'till I left that BS.
It is harsh and brutal, but hell it fucking works under pressure... and that's what counts, surely?
well, 'nothing' new might be a bit of a blanket to be sure.... however, when you see these 'do unto others before they do it to you' style self defence DVD 'courses' you have to wonder how much danger would you need to be in before you have no choice but to resort to methods as extreme as demonstrated in this vid?... I mean sure this is for the battlefield and in that context would work perfectly well.. but on the streets, unless there's a danger to your life... legally its shaky ground
but if someone's coming at me with a baseball bat, and angry expression...i'm not going to wait. lol good point though, you can't just rip peoples arms off for calling you an asshole
exactly so! I've seen knife 'defense' vids that advocate, after you've disarmed your attacker it is shown as just fine to poceed to stab them with the weapon they where going to use... the use of letha force has some very specific and exact on what you can and cannot do on that score.
THis was the hardest course I ever did in the army! Heading back to the barracks to lick our wounds every night. Oh man we had some doing it hough. Have to say I was happy at the END:)
The Fairbairn-Sykes dagger is still in production today. Sheffield makes reproductions made to original specs for around 90 dollars. I bought one, it has a high carbon blade and the gripping is not slippery at all because of the ribbed handle. It is a perfect design.
yeah there was a fairbairn-sykes fighting knife, its on wikipedia lol. Even found a article written by fairbairn about knife fighting but i can't remember where to find it
I wish I had the time to do some serious training but I don't. Mad respect for you guys who do, though. If i ever get mugged or something my failsafe plan is to kick 'em in the rocks and run like hell!:-) haha.
That is exactly my point. To become really good, you need to train for decades 5 times a week. Men who are sent off to war don't have that luxury. They just need some H2H training to survive. And Fairbairn himself did survive when in the dangerous streets of Shanghai, which was more like a warzone.
I might respectfully disagree, Hans. There's a great article about Frank Shamrock, who won the K-1 after 1 year of training, and the a UFC after 10 months. Sure, he is a remarkable athlete, but on a smaller scale, you don't have to spend decades to become great.
It was Carl Cestari's opinion that a man could become great in lethal close combat in only a few months time. And he knew the real deal. That's what i am saying.
I like Carl Cestari. He's dead (RIP) but he scares me, and I'm a big guy. What do you think of Krav Maga? I'm looking into an MMA place right now-- they have separate classes for boxing and muay thai
I have a lot of DVD's with Carl and i am studying this stuff for myself. I think he was one of the greatest. Krav Maga schools are beginning to expand here too, (yes even in Holland). I think the original art of Imi Liechtenfeld was good, KM schools today are somewhat commercialized but still better and more "real" then Teakwondo, or Karate schools. Boxing,MuayThai is good,only in real fights you don't have gloves, and there you realize that bare knockle boxing is injurous to your fists.
And that was one of the reasons why Fairbairn and Applegate recommended close combat with open hands. A lot of edge-of-hands, and a lot of heel-of-hands, and preferrably no fists at all, only hammerfists. This because when you are not highly trained, in real fight the fist is injured quickly and rendered useless. The open hand can be applied very effectively with no injury at all. Carl was not a big guy, in fact relatively skinny, but tough as nails.
Yes, exactly. Bare knuckle fist fighting requires considerable skills. Fight with the edge of the hand and you won't have a problem at all. Edge of the hand is a winner.
Carl Cestari was certainly smaller as he got older, due to some health problems. However, Carl's top student stated that at his prime Carl walked around at about 225 pounds. You are right on about the open hand stuff. Though many people instinctively use a closed fist. That is why hand/body conditioning is so important.
True that... you fight like you train, and despite my agreeing that closed hands can cause injury to yourself, that is what I'd do... there's always elbows and knees.
I studied Taekwando for a while and the kicks are so difficult to execute fast enough so that you're not telegraphing them by leaning. It takes a lot of time to master and you should't be in your fifties. Wing Chung is good up close but the hand moves require considerable grace.
It was Carl Cestari's opinion that a man could become great in lethal close combat in only a few months time. And he knew the real deal. That's what i am saying.
Funny how the German soldier takes the defender in a Bear hug. Not many german soldiers would have tried that in wartime. Despite all the H2H skills, one bullet can kill you and your training, so that's another reason why you should not be too concerned filling your precious time with martial arts.
I'm saying this in favor of Fairbairn's practical no nonsense system. A few techniques that really work. Not 33 years of martial ARTS training with black belts and golden medals. A few intense weeks of real fight training is enough, to turn you into a weapon.
you don't sound like a martial artist, you sound like a kid in the sandbox. I have seen blackbelts and other trained people go down in seconds by underestimating their opponents. Simple is always best.
Get this fact straight. In a lethal fight or flight situation, the number one hindrance to your defense ability - no matter how long or how complicated you trained, will be ADRENALIN! The stuff dulls thinking and will tend to freeze you up. The limbic system controlling reflex & instinct takes over. So, simple, broad and yet deadly defensive methods that have been deeply ingrained to muscle memory will save the day!
This adrenaline dump that makes all the fancy and complicated martial arts movements useless in H2H. That's the main reason why they're simple methods. Time was a factor,the war was waiting, yes, but effectiveness when in real combat, was the decisive factor.
One other thing, Fairbairn & Sykes developed these techniques after having fighting contests to see what was truly effective. It was similar to the UFC only people died in the process. The result were no nonsense techniques that worked nearly everytime & were lethal.
On 18 February 1931, at forty-six years of age, Fairbairn received a Black Belt, 2nd Degree, certified by the famous Jogoro Kano, president of the Kodokan Jui-Jitsu Institution, Tokyo, Japan.(Kano Developed Judo) so for those guys who don't think that oriental Martial arts are any good, your barking up the wrong tree, This is oriental Martial Arts!
Also if you do you homework you will find that Fairbairn studied oriental Martial Arts "Chinese Boxing" and Jui jitsu when he was stationed in Hong Kong in the Shanghai Municipal Police.
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This is good for the man down the pub but don't underestimate Martial Artists that have spent Decades perfecting their arts, The man you see defending would be a heap of broken bones in my hands and that's not Bragging, just a fact, As for Defendo it was good against the bosh when you had to teach the soldiers in a rush, There is nothing here that I haven't learned to deal with in my 32years of Martial arts.
I'm afraid you underestimate the effectiveness of these methods. This stuff was used successfully against highly skilled judoka & jiujitsuka MANY TIMES in life & death struggles. Those are the real facts.
Well that is easy to say, where is your qualifications to say that? there is nothing on your channel to suggest that know anything, (and for the guys that mark my comments down your so sad that this stuff can't take criticism) to you Nubes this stuff seems good but to my experience in Decades of real combat arts this is kinder garden stuff that is badly executed
The chances of running into a martial arts expert like yourself were not that high not even in occupied France. In the next war, maybe it would be a different story. But even then, a bullet through your head will kill you as easily as anyone else. If you want to make martial arts your life style, i understand that choice. From a practical point of view, you really don't need all of this fancy training.
Actually, this fighting system was designed to teach people how to to defeat opponents that are skilled in martial arts. Fairbairn developed this system based on his experience taking down criminals that knew martial arts when he was on the Shanghai police force. Also, these moves were taught to US Marine Raiders who were sent to fight the Japanese, who were primarily trained in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu, if I remember correctly. Fairbairn's system was said to be very effective.
LMAO.... Please tell me what you have learnt to deal with the effects of a multi strike to your groin, mandible and eyes, I'd love to know. your thinking about it in terms of you both squaring off getting ready to fight, but thats just not how violence happens, you martial artists still think or violence in terms of what goes on in the ring. I know its a scary thought that for all your years of training a single knee to the groin can start the process of your death but its the cold hard reality.
You do realize that if you are attacking the validity of Fairbairn's style, that you are, in fact, attacking what many consider the genesis of CQC, or military gutterfighting, correct? Which means you are stating that the biggest proponent of harsh combat with no rules, the man that made kneeing a groin a science along with every other dirty move there is, and of course, the followers of his work, are fools. Ironic and uneducated statement if you ask me. You're biting the hand that feeds.
no quite the opposite I was replying to another guy's post that stated that i his dojo they learnt moves to counter everything seen here, so I was curious as to how you counter a gouged eye, or ruptured testicles
Fairbairn learned many styles of oriental martial arts so that he could choose only those techniques which were actually effective in each style. The stuff he taught to the U.S. military and the SAS was meant to kill quickly and efficiently with the least amount of energy used in doing so. It is simple and it isn't pretty, but he understood that if you were going for a shot to the head, it was better to just use a strong hand strike instead of something as flashy and useless like a roundhouse.
Defendu was Fairbairn's style which he developed for non-lethal defense (thus the name) for law enforcement applications. It is not the same as the style which he taught to the armed forces. Fairbairn was documented as having over 600 combat successes in his time, from hand-to-hand to gunfights. All of these in street conditions. As for my qualifications, I wrote my dissertation in college on martial arts throughout history, and am a black belt in Krav Maga and a brown belt in U.S. combatives.
Remember this was wartime - Kick someone in the head or attack the neck and they could die and you go to jail. Fuck pride and just run away from any drunk fool wanting to start something up...
Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know this style is STILL TAUGHT to some British and US military units. Not just a effective combat method, but also easy to learn and easy to teach, perfect style for modern day wars where a soldier's training consist of very little time. I learned the basics of this method when I acquired Fairbairn's book "Get Tough!", and I also used some techniques defending myself at school one day... Can't believe it worked...
Wow! This is the no nonsense, no mumbo jumbo and definitely street effective self defense training. When fine muscle motor coordination is destroyed by the adrenalin dump, you may rely on WW2 commando training to save your life.
This is good, but again it contains lots of chops which is basically Shoto Garai in Jujutsu, aka the Knife Hand. It also doesn't seem to have any defence against high kicks, which are taught in Jujutsu. Furthermore, and much more importantly, it has no defence against the Jujutsu Nagewaza takedowns, aka Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
On the plus side, this seems much faster to learn, and doesn't contain much of the Kata/demonstration forms bullshit that plague Japenese Martial Arts.
Andhaira 1 week ago
Not a gentle way...
Konicava 1 month ago
if I knew this durin' my formative years, it would've brought a lot of trash-talkin' & "because I can" garbage to a grindin' halt.
incdogrobber 1 month ago
Everything that is shown is in Japanese Ju Jitsu basically, it's not the most complete system ever but would get the job done none the less, especially back then when less people knew anything to do with hand to hand fighting.
djeq721 1 month ago
why would your enemy try to bear hug you in war when they have there knife, there helmet, there shovel, there pistol, and of course there primary gun (unless they lost it), and lets not forget our fist and legs, they can even use there canteen if needed, or even there pack! ( if they carry alot of stuff in it). plus it would take a long time to kill someone with a bear hug plus it looks wierd.
98vanguard 4 months ago
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98vanguard 4 months ago
one final one from the Fairbairn method
TheShubnigurath 6 months ago
This is what me grandpa was taught in WWII
Quicksilver903 11 months ago
Jujitsu plus boxing plus natural English aggression = winning combination!
infokemp 11 months ago 3
@infokemp
These are the two arts I study and they are PERFECT. Contain everything you could possibly need to look after yourself.
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we want to know all the secrets of CAMP X!!!! from the nazis being there to ian fleming!!! it must still be secret cause i aint finding nothin. someone do a movie about this place WE WANT WW2 FOOTAGE!! ENOUGH MASSIVE SECRETS!!!!
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we want to know all the secrets of CAMP X!!!! from the nazis being there to ian fleming!!! it must still be secret cause i aint finding nothin. someone do a movie about this place WE WANT WW2 FOOTAGE!! ENOUGH MASSIVE SECRETS!!!!
noodlesmealey 1 year ago
What do you do, if a german soldier is going to hug you? Fairbain knew the answer... I wonder if theres a german video: `How to hug your enemy/Wie man den Feind umarmt.´
11Kralle 1 year ago
oh man i can't see a thing!
it's like watching an over bright and 8 bit movie
zhetya 1 year ago
What's the word that he uses when he refers to attacking the guy's groin? Sounds like "thok" or something. He uses it at around 0:06, 0:54 and 1:13. Some kind of British slang?
mkhovila 1 year ago
@mkhovila I think hes saying fork, meaning fork in the body between the torso and where the legs 'fork out', its a natural guide into the groin.
Falandorn 1 year ago
@Falandorn
So I wasn't imagining things?
I'll try to remember that for next weeks MA training. "Next, I counter by hitting you in the fork"... sounds even wackier in Swedish.
Wavemaninawe 11 months ago
@Wavemaninawe lol vad är det i svenska? Its a bit unusual, its probably a term only used around that time, we certainly wouldnt use that term now, we would just say groin i think :)
Falandorn 11 months ago
@Falandorn
Hold on... you're asking me in Swedish what the word is in Swedish?
Btw, it's "vad är det på svenska". :-)
Wavemaninawe 11 months ago
@Wavemaninawe jag studera svenska och tack för det. I always mix up 'i' and 'på', the direct translation from english never works there does it, sounds like 'what is it on swedish'. :)
Falandorn 11 months ago
@Falandorn
Nope it doesn't,. Because there isn't really much logic to Swedish grammar. -_-
Fork is "gaffel", which wouldn't make sense in describing low blows... since it only refers to the cutlery.
Wavemaninawe 11 months ago
Take that u Bosh !!!
RogueBrit 1 year ago
Wow if someone ever tries to hug me now I know what to do.
Grungadin 1 year ago
This is a WWI training vidio lol
TheGree123 1 year ago
Fairbairn had a way with words - "the cure is complete" and "the gentle art of murder" being two of my favorites.
joiless 1 year ago 4
Great im just reading the get tough book this video comes really handy to understand better the movements thanks for posting!!!!
abscrete 1 year ago 2
cant see it
ballygeale1 1 year ago
come at me with a piece of fruit
anycush 1 year ago
Hot damn I love that old timey voice. That needs to make a comeback. Seriously.
dezmodium 1 year ago 17
@dezmodium agree
mysticpiggyx 1 year ago
That was a useful vid, thanks for the upload!
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12pona 1 year ago 3
this guy is a legend and these are lethal techniques, i just rented online a couple of carl cestri videos from goldstarvideo and they are good. i also notice they have some damian ross stuff . you may want to buy it instead of renting because it is worth it , money is just a little tight for me
BusterBoy5555 1 year ago 2
Fairbairn's book 'Get Tough' is also worth a read!
MidnighWolf 2 years ago
my dad was a mercenary for the cia in vietnam and alot of those moves are the real deal trust me ive used em... screw the kidney chop and an eye gouge is the best simple thing you can do but unless you there trying to kill you dont do to hard or you gonna be spending time in prison for blinding them
shane220222 2 years ago
@shane220222 Hmm... it seems everyone on Youtube watching these videos has a dad or brother or friend in the Seals, SAS, or was something like "a mercenary for the cia."
In case you're slow, I'm calling bullshit.
subdivisions416 2 years ago
wtf ever a little nerd loser.. i ran into this vid not by looking for it i seen it all done is a usa style variant just tought i was telling people its not bs and as for you... your a bitch and cant fight for shit or else you would know those move would kill the fuck out u.. oh and did i say ur a little bitch
shane220222 2 years ago
@shane220222 Yeah, I know those moves would "kill the fuck out of u," you dumbass redneck.
Did youy drop out of the trailer park's homeschool literacy program or something, or were you born a clusterfuck? And I don't care how you found this video or if you've "seen it all done."
All I did was call bullshit on the whole "my dad was a cia mercenary," which you just decided to not defend.
So like I said, you're a bullshit phony.
subdivisions416 2 years ago
lol the reason i didn't defend it because i could care less if you u think im a phony lol i was just calling u out cus your a bitch who has daddy issues lol.. as for the trailer park you need to move your broke ass out your momma's house in your "subdivision"
shane220222 2 years ago
Fuk that, we do it German-Style and just choke slam that bitch.
Howie262 2 years ago
Yeah cause Germans sure were brave in world war 2. I would call German-Style murdering innocent men, women and children by the millions, but whatever you say.
Grungadin 2 years ago
AHW MY EYEBALLLSS IM BLIND
Sozdar112 2 years ago
i know this is youtube on all but the quality is shit
lokallize 2 years ago
this is from the '40s :O
Klayperson 2 years ago
btw....this is all still theoretical, for example...Just because you hit someone in the kidney, or other vulnerable points does not mean your vctory is sealed. The human body is much tougher than that...we had to withstand savage attacks from beasts in our primordial days... if you don't have a weapon you're better off choking to death, gouging eyes won't kill someone, all it will do is get a bloody mess all over your hands LMAO.
CatholicOrder 2 years ago
"first...the fork' ROFL
CatholicOrder 2 years ago
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nobody strikes like that in a real fight
MoJoThundRpants 2 years ago
Obviously you have never seen anyone strike like that in a fight because you have never witnessed a fight on the battlefield.
RDCKM 2 years ago 2
No I have not, and thanks for putting me down and reminding me that I'm a good-for-nothing draft dodging civilian hippie. From the generation Who is too much of a coward to serve their own damb country these days to not even have the fuckin courtesy to do a fuckin favor by serving. Thank you
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8enbloc 2 years ago
i guess those guys just don't like being hugged. :\
Klayperson 2 years ago
I knew Colonel Applegate when I was a little girl. I remember being absolutely fascinated with him and his weapons collection whenever my father and I visited. I love that I could find this video on Youtube.
GFUgirl 2 years ago 4
Noooo shit! Amen, brother!!! AMEN!!! But you gotta admit.. some of those "Karate Moms" are freakin bangin hott. :P
silentwarrior18x 2 years ago
anyone else can see more than a few connections between this and 'Krav Maga' and none with the flowery crap many MA system inflicts upon it's students?
Just goes to show, there's nothing new in the realm of hand 2 hand combat - just ass holes who make it cool/ pretty to attract 'tough guys' and 'karate' moms to McDojos... Wasted months in classes like that - 'till I left that BS.
It is harsh and brutal, but hell it fucking works under pressure... and that's what counts, surely?
scopeophile 2 years ago 5
you're right, theres nothing new...even about this. its all been done before, its just rehashed.
kempobrad 2 years ago
well, 'nothing' new might be a bit of a blanket to be sure.... however, when you see these 'do unto others before they do it to you' style self defence DVD 'courses' you have to wonder how much danger would you need to be in before you have no choice but to resort to methods as extreme as demonstrated in this vid?... I mean sure this is for the battlefield and in that context would work perfectly well.. but on the streets, unless there's a danger to your life... legally its shaky ground
scopeophile 2 years ago
but if someone's coming at me with a baseball bat, and angry expression...i'm not going to wait. lol good point though, you can't just rip peoples arms off for calling you an asshole
kempobrad 2 years ago
exactly so! I've seen knife 'defense' vids that advocate, after you've disarmed your attacker it is shown as just fine to poceed to stab them with the weapon they where going to use... the use of letha force has some very specific and exact on what you can and cannot do on that score.
scopeophile 2 years ago
i would rather be alive on shaky ground than dead, put simply
hilltopcresent 2 years ago
Classic.
tengc 2 years ago
I read in a book called From Lee to Li that Fairbairn had over 600 real-life fights while serving as a policeman in Shanghai.
SallyMyers1991 2 years ago
he was a real man.he never pulled that gracie jujutsu bs ie rickson's 500-0.but he was a beast.
blutobelushi 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this video! This is the basis for a very effective self defense system.
gillean2 2 years ago
Lol yeah, except they don't teach you how to escape form the mount ahahahh.
Lad22nd 3 years ago
I tried the chin jab once, worked like a charm :)
i believe you can generate as much power using your palm, and its safer than a fist.
By the way does anyone know if Fairbairn made any knife defence techniques, or can reccomend any good ones?
bennythefox 3 years ago 3
Their knife defence was a chair
I can recommend some good ones along a similar line of reasoning:
1. Use anything longer than the knife as a weapon
2. Run away
anything else and you will DIE
chushinryoku 3 years ago 3
a swift kick to the happy sacks always does the trick
devel155 3 years ago 4
Fairbairn and Applegate where true pioneers,
the techniques they taught our troops where a true factor in helping us win the war.
I can also recomend Fairbairn's book 'Get Tough' to anyone watching this.
MidnighWolf 3 years ago 4
Excellent post.
cyberhit1 3 years ago
THis was the hardest course I ever did in the army! Heading back to the barracks to lick our wounds every night. Oh man we had some doing it hough. Have to say I was happy at the END:)
Primetome 3 years ago 2
You were trained by these methods of self defense?
Sheik06 3 years ago
Yep. Same methods. I have to be honest I hated the course but was well worth it in the end.
Primetome 3 years ago 2
The Fairbairn-Sykes dagger is still in production today. Sheffield makes reproductions made to original specs for around 90 dollars. I bought one, it has a high carbon blade and the gripping is not slippery at all because of the ribbed handle. It is a perfect design.
BreakerOfNecks 3 years ago 5
Sweet! Fairbairn was so awesome!
DeathSquadLegionaire 3 years ago
Is their such thing as a Fairbairn knife?
Battlesboy 3 years ago
yeah there was a fairbairn-sykes fighting knife, its on wikipedia lol. Even found a article written by fairbairn about knife fighting but i can't remember where to find it
TheAntiUTube 3 years ago
I wish I had the time to do some serious training but I don't. Mad respect for you guys who do, though. If i ever get mugged or something my failsafe plan is to kick 'em in the rocks and run like hell!:-) haha.
trebdude1 3 years ago 2
Fair enough!
gekiryudojo 3 years ago
That is exactly my point. To become really good, you need to train for decades 5 times a week. Men who are sent off to war don't have that luxury. They just need some H2H training to survive. And Fairbairn himself did survive when in the dangerous streets of Shanghai, which was more like a warzone.
hans421 4 years ago
I might respectfully disagree, Hans. There's a great article about Frank Shamrock, who won the K-1 after 1 year of training, and the a UFC after 10 months. Sure, he is a remarkable athlete, but on a smaller scale, you don't have to spend decades to become great.
carbonlaminate 4 years ago
It was Carl Cestari's opinion that a man could become great in lethal close combat in only a few months time. And he knew the real deal. That's what i am saying.
hans421 3 years ago
I like Carl Cestari. He's dead (RIP) but he scares me, and I'm a big guy. What do you think of Krav Maga? I'm looking into an MMA place right now-- they have separate classes for boxing and muay thai
carbonlaminate 3 years ago
I have a lot of DVD's with Carl and i am studying this stuff for myself. I think he was one of the greatest. Krav Maga schools are beginning to expand here too, (yes even in Holland). I think the original art of Imi Liechtenfeld was good, KM schools today are somewhat commercialized but still better and more "real" then Teakwondo, or Karate schools. Boxing,MuayThai is good,only in real fights you don't have gloves, and there you realize that bare knockle boxing is injurous to your fists.
hans421 3 years ago
And that was one of the reasons why Fairbairn and Applegate recommended close combat with open hands. A lot of edge-of-hands, and a lot of heel-of-hands, and preferrably no fists at all, only hammerfists. This because when you are not highly trained, in real fight the fist is injured quickly and rendered useless. The open hand can be applied very effectively with no injury at all. Carl was not a big guy, in fact relatively skinny, but tough as nails.
hans421 3 years ago
Russian thinking (also now special forces dogma) is fist to bony surface=broken hand. Broken hand cannot draw sidearm
colinkadink 3 years ago 3
Yes, exactly. Bare knuckle fist fighting requires considerable skills. Fight with the edge of the hand and you won't have a problem at all. Edge of the hand is a winner.
hans421 3 years ago 19
You're going to win a lot of confrontations if you keep thinking that way.
Kevindtong 3 years ago
@hans421 Indeed. Would you rather hit someone with a tightly cinched bag of chess pieces or with a lead pipe?
Wargoat6 10 months ago 4
Carl Cestari was certainly smaller as he got older, due to some health problems. However, Carl's top student stated that at his prime Carl walked around at about 225 pounds. You are right on about the open hand stuff. Though many people instinctively use a closed fist. That is why hand/body conditioning is so important.
cyberhit1 3 years ago
True that... you fight like you train, and despite my agreeing that closed hands can cause injury to yourself, that is what I'd do... there's always elbows and knees.
Also looking to get on with this kali group.
But best of luck with your studies
carbonlaminate 3 years ago
I studied Taekwando for a while and the kicks are so difficult to execute fast enough so that you're not telegraphing them by leaning. It takes a lot of time to master and you should't be in your fifties. Wing Chung is good up close but the hand moves require considerable grace.
1915fas 3 years ago
Carl Cestari was THE MAN! And as you know he was a certified black belt in several martial arts. He liked to use the term "F@ck'em Up Waza."
cyberhit1 3 years ago
It was Carl Cestari's opinion that a man could become great in lethal close combat in only a few months time. And he knew the real deal. That's what i am saying.
hans421 3 years ago 2
haha, I loved the kicks to the ribs after every takedown.
treist 4 years ago
Brilliant ,indeed !
safranekangoo 4 years ago
No wonder the Germans lost the war hahahahaha they never had training videos or spam
ANZACJugger0 4 years ago
Funny how the German soldier takes the defender in a Bear hug. Not many german soldiers would have tried that in wartime. Despite all the H2H skills, one bullet can kill you and your training, so that's another reason why you should not be too concerned filling your precious time with martial arts.
hans421 4 years ago
yeah, bullet never run out... guns never jam... soldiers never loose weapons...soldiers are never disarmed or captured...
good thinking!
carbonlaminate 4 years ago 4
I'm saying this in favor of Fairbairn's practical no nonsense system. A few techniques that really work. Not 33 years of martial ARTS training with black belts and golden medals. A few intense weeks of real fight training is enough, to turn you into a weapon.
hans421 4 years ago 5
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No it's not, I would still own you!
gekiryudojo 4 years ago
you don't sound like a martial artist, you sound like a kid in the sandbox. I have seen blackbelts and other trained people go down in seconds by underestimating their opponents. Simple is always best.
hipnogood 3 years ago 3
well you would know. XD
gekiryudojo 3 years ago
Where is your honor? With three decades of martial arts study you should be well beyond having to make verbal cracks on the interntet.
cyberhit1 3 years ago
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8enbloc 2 years ago
Get this fact straight. In a lethal fight or flight situation, the number one hindrance to your defense ability - no matter how long or how complicated you trained, will be ADRENALIN! The stuff dulls thinking and will tend to freeze you up. The limbic system controlling reflex & instinct takes over. So, simple, broad and yet deadly defensive methods that have been deeply ingrained to muscle memory will save the day!
Padreiot 4 years ago 4
This adrenaline dump that makes all the fancy and complicated martial arts movements useless in H2H. That's the main reason why they're simple methods. Time was a factor,the war was waiting, yes, but effectiveness when in real combat, was the decisive factor.
hans421 4 years ago 2
One other thing, Fairbairn & Sykes developed these techniques after having fighting contests to see what was truly effective. It was similar to the UFC only people died in the process. The result were no nonsense techniques that worked nearly everytime & were lethal.
doktorhook 4 years ago
not accurate-- while MPs in Shanghai, they managed to live long enough to observe what techniques worked on the street. They didn't have cage matches
carbonlaminate 4 years ago 3
On 18 February 1931, at forty-six years of age, Fairbairn received a Black Belt, 2nd Degree, certified by the famous Jogoro Kano, president of the Kodokan Jui-Jitsu Institution, Tokyo, Japan.(Kano Developed Judo) so for those guys who don't think that oriental Martial arts are any good, your barking up the wrong tree, This is oriental Martial Arts!
gekiryudojo 4 years ago 2
yes
carbonlaminate 4 years ago
Also if you do you homework you will find that Fairbairn studied oriental Martial Arts "Chinese Boxing" and Jui jitsu when he was stationed in Hong Kong in the Shanghai Municipal Police.
gekiryudojo 4 years ago 4
yup yup
carbonlaminate 4 years ago
Yepand he obviously incorporated elements from those disciplines in this video as well.
gillean2 2 years ago
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This is good for the man down the pub but don't underestimate Martial Artists that have spent Decades perfecting their arts, The man you see defending would be a heap of broken bones in my hands and that's not Bragging, just a fact, As for Defendo it was good against the bosh when you had to teach the soldiers in a rush, There is nothing here that I haven't learned to deal with in my 32years of Martial arts.
gekiryudojo 4 years ago
I'm afraid you underestimate the effectiveness of these methods. This stuff was used successfully against highly skilled judoka & jiujitsuka MANY TIMES in life & death struggles. Those are the real facts.
doktorhook 4 years ago 2
Well that is easy to say, where is your qualifications to say that? there is nothing on your channel to suggest that know anything, (and for the guys that mark my comments down your so sad that this stuff can't take criticism) to you Nubes this stuff seems good but to my experience in Decades of real combat arts this is kinder garden stuff that is badly executed
gekiryudojo 4 years ago
The chances of running into a martial arts expert like yourself were not that high not even in occupied France. In the next war, maybe it would be a different story. But even then, a bullet through your head will kill you as easily as anyone else. If you want to make martial arts your life style, i understand that choice. From a practical point of view, you really don't need all of this fancy training.
hans421 4 years ago 7
@hans421
Actually, this fighting system was designed to teach people how to to defeat opponents that are skilled in martial arts. Fairbairn developed this system based on his experience taking down criminals that knew martial arts when he was on the Shanghai police force. Also, these moves were taught to US Marine Raiders who were sent to fight the Japanese, who were primarily trained in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu, if I remember correctly. Fairbairn's system was said to be very effective.
rangerchallengebravo 1 year ago 7
Correct.
cyberhit1 3 years ago
LMAO.... Please tell me what you have learnt to deal with the effects of a multi strike to your groin, mandible and eyes, I'd love to know. your thinking about it in terms of you both squaring off getting ready to fight, but thats just not how violence happens, you martial artists still think or violence in terms of what goes on in the ring. I know its a scary thought that for all your years of training a single knee to the groin can start the process of your death but its the cold hard reality.
lordscrub 3 years ago 4
You do realize that if you are attacking the validity of Fairbairn's style, that you are, in fact, attacking what many consider the genesis of CQC, or military gutterfighting, correct? Which means you are stating that the biggest proponent of harsh combat with no rules, the man that made kneeing a groin a science along with every other dirty move there is, and of course, the followers of his work, are fools. Ironic and uneducated statement if you ask me. You're biting the hand that feeds.
BreakerOfNecks 3 years ago 4
no quite the opposite I was replying to another guy's post that stated that i his dojo they learnt moves to counter everything seen here, so I was curious as to how you counter a gouged eye, or ruptured testicles
lordscrub 3 years ago 3
Sorry about that, youtube had the posts all out of order again. lol.
BreakerOfNecks 3 years ago
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gekiryudojo 2 years ago
Fairbairn learned many styles of oriental martial arts so that he could choose only those techniques which were actually effective in each style. The stuff he taught to the U.S. military and the SAS was meant to kill quickly and efficiently with the least amount of energy used in doing so. It is simple and it isn't pretty, but he understood that if you were going for a shot to the head, it was better to just use a strong hand strike instead of something as flashy and useless like a roundhouse.
BreakerOfNecks 3 years ago 4
Defendu was Fairbairn's style which he developed for non-lethal defense (thus the name) for law enforcement applications. It is not the same as the style which he taught to the armed forces. Fairbairn was documented as having over 600 combat successes in his time, from hand-to-hand to gunfights. All of these in street conditions. As for my qualifications, I wrote my dissertation in college on martial arts throughout history, and am a black belt in Krav Maga and a brown belt in U.S. combatives.
BreakerOfNecks 3 years ago 4
So in your opinion whats works for you better? Krav maga or Fairbairn's style?
Kevindtong 3 years ago
Remember this was wartime - Kick someone in the head or attack the neck and they could die and you go to jail. Fuck pride and just run away from any drunk fool wanting to start something up...
catwhezal 4 years ago
Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know this style is STILL TAUGHT to some British and US military units. Not just a effective combat method, but also easy to learn and easy to teach, perfect style for modern day wars where a soldier's training consist of very little time. I learned the basics of this method when I acquired Fairbairn's book "Get Tough!", and I also used some techniques defending myself at school one day... Can't believe it worked...
Sheik06 4 years ago 4
These are gods in my universe!
StantheGunman 4 years ago
Piss on all the too complicated to actually use martial arts. This stuff was actually used to kill people with!
trebdude1 4 years ago 2
Sykes and Fairburne were some BAD mofos.
SD78 4 years ago 3
Wow! This is the no nonsense, no mumbo jumbo and definitely street effective self defense training. When fine muscle motor coordination is destroyed by the adrenalin dump, you may rely on WW2 commando training to save your life.
Padreiot 4 years ago 4
it was effective at war, Is hell sure effective in the streets.
naujitii 4 years ago 2
Fucking right...If it could be used on a Soldier with a gun who was trained to kill...it can be used on some jerk-off on the street
LemonDancer 4 years ago 4
this is years ahead of the mess taught these days
lordscrub 4 years ago 5
A true pioneer in H2H combat
DEAallday 4 years ago 3
Fairbairn, one of the true H2H masters.
YuJinLong 4 years ago 4
still very valid techniques for self protectiontoday....terrific. Thanks for posting it.
telmac899 4 years ago 7
Man, thats old school hand to hand fighting. Thanks for posting it.
thunderkarate 4 years ago 8
A great piece of close combat history. Thanks for posting this.
5thprofession47 4 years ago 9