sAviOr vs Bisu @ MSL Finals (FPVOD) - Game 2

[rycemuffin]

there were DTs? lol did not notice

[rorcon]

yeah savior probably was like 'fuck starcraft' after this series and decided to fix matches.

[poooo7]

is their bisu point of view?

[underverse02]

is this savior's first match fixed game?

[liquidpersuasion]

perhaps this was the series that convinced savior to rig games?

[angelos7]

SAVIOR BUILD SUX

[palteonato]

geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[pro922004]

it's strange that savior dont upgrade the ovie, it's a big disadvantage

[GraniteAge]

what is apm?

[FUshaneJK]

@GraniteAge i belive its like avrage mins and gas rlly it dosent make sense to me im curious too

[pro922004]

@GraniteAge It stands for action per minute ;)

[GraniteAge]

@pro922004 and his apm is low? i cant believe how fast he goes

[pro922004]

@GraniteAge if you see fpvod of jaedong you'll see what is high

[GraniteAge]

@pro922004 where can i find a video with his point of view?? ive seen a lot but its espectator pov :(

[pro922004]

@GraniteAge search for keyword "jaedong fpvod"

[sibbie1023]

@GraniteAge I don't know the exact numbers, but my one friend was just telling me that savior was a good example of how APM!=skill, because saviors was low 200's generally while some high levels are high 300-low 400. So not exactly "low APM" it's just low in comparison

[uRbattyboy]

bisus apm seems a bit higher than saviour if you watch his first person replays

[thedipmeister]

@13:25

"SHIIIIIIT!!! OHHH SHITTTTT!!!! SHITTTTTT!!!!"

[ppshchik]

wow as a SC progamer savior's apm is pretty lol

[SuperZeratUll]

APM 800 xD

[seabard77]

you have to say there was slight pause at 13:34.

[asdf272]

fail... he didnt save his replay

[Onek1Ss]

Ouch.... lmao

He was already pissed but that must have pissed him off even more T~T

R.I.P sAviOr

[Zonde32]

yes he did

[Presonance]

He got the "Unable to save game file" error.

[jeehoondevil]

@asdf272

u can still watch teh last replay

[CumInMyAsshole3]

was the reporteres like OH SHITT SHITTT

[Onek1Ss]

They're called commentators and no they weren't saying OH SHITTT. They were counting the number of kills of the DT around 13:36

Ship, Ship il, Ship ee, Ship sam

10, 11, 12, 13

[raisauce]

savior needs to learn to build atleast one fucking spore and upgrade his overlord speed

[ipszlit]

they know what they do they are pro players.

[speedjounetsu]

there is nothing like a pro player

you mean experience player right ???

[ipszlit]

and btw spore doesnt protect -

vs corsair:

corsairs will kill overlords anyway (group of corsairs [6-8] cant kill overlords flying next to spore without loosing any sair)

vs dt:

your 1 base will be safe but what whit others? u cant make spores in each because u dont have money for shits like that u need to make units / rebuild army / upgrade

and he is pro gamer dont try to be smart asses - he know what he do he plays 10h / day :/

[NoobsGetOwned4Life]

also the sairs can just web the spores

[phoenix8765]

Raisauce said nothing wrong, even if no sairs are killed, every little damage counts (mb the hydras would find it easier to kill them afterwards). plus spores are dirt cheap. if it saves 2 overlords, it's worth it. and if they disruption web the spore....thats one web they can use on hydras or other units

[zEnGeArS]

drones=50minerals

creep colony=75 minerals

spore colony=75 minerals

replacing that drone=50minerals

corsair=150min 100 gas

doing some damage and then getting ur overlord owned anyway=priceless

that is why pros use scourge now to keep sair count low to keep toss on the ground

and none of that d-web nonsense, waste of gas when u could invest in high temp

[kallewooof]

uh spore is 50, not 75. unless you count the total cost (drone + creep + spore) in which case it's 175. your expertise at zerg is questionable, friend. ;)

[Bazza37]

because you're in a position to lecture savior....

[RAE4eva666]

storm owns all zerg

[bionix11]

dont think they are paid to be excited, SC is a national sport there...

[williaml232]

He means the announcers. Although it's true that the announcers are truly excited.

[NETMR2]

hahaha NO CONTEST.

Bisu the Kingtoss

[mightyfedepxress]

would like to see from Bisu's point of view

[3xilewarrior]

wat is savior doing at the start lol makin boxes over the starting drones over and over playing around?

[Thomean]

Warming up :P

[raisauce]

boosting his apm

[ibclappin]

they are paid to be overly-excited and loud. -_-

[Sovieto]

@ibclappin i've never heard of this before..

[ibclappin]

@Sovieto same thing with japanese tekken tournament commentators

[shang88888]

fantastic game and great commentators

[ArchaicShadow]

boy this game got loud at around 11:30 to 12:00, lol

[MutaliskMaster]

he couldnt find the game he saved at the end hahaha

[mlke]

god it's so sad how you're so pro but still get owned

[jeehoondevil]

@mlke

well they are against a person that practices probably the same amount as them and eats cup noodles same amount as well lol

[inhuman216]

the commentator said SHIIIIIIIIIIITTT! at 13:22 ahahahha!

[MutaliskMaster]

he said shiip which is 10 in Korean.

[inhuman216]

ok thnks for clearing that up

[MutaliskMaster]

np =D.

[whimppy]

so why dont zerg build spore colony to counter dt/corsair. they counter and attack air, and they cheap.

[inhuman216]

it messes with economy at early game, but on mid game i think he shouldve got some or at least upgrade overlord.

Its just probably savior's aggressive playstyle and also his weakness

[DanyF02]

Hum.. maybe because the Corsairs can "cancel" the Spores with that skill.. Disruption Web.. if i'm right.

[bullbunnies]

that's a lot of gas for something useless unless you go corsair/reaver. 300 for the fleet beacon & 200 for the upgrade. I would rather have psi storm & 2 templar

[angel1106]

its more expensive at all, it's much more efficient to go corsairs and upgrade disruption web, because it's so early on in the game, also it's useful when attacking a base

[fallingtusk1]

Disruption web puts you very far on the back foot if you get it early on in the game, especially since protoss would have to stick to corsairs to make the tech pay off, and it's terrible at defending from melee or air units from the zerg. Not to mention the energy cost and the fact that zerg can just keep pumping units if you don't have 2star corsair

[zeejustin6]

Those announcers must get paid in drugs.

[ganggang3]

hahaha

[spawnfan101]

hahahaha

[Rioter]

professional sc players have got to have hypertension

[Sixxter85]

Zerg player needed to upgrade his overlords in game 1 and 3...dt fucked him up real, real bad.

[LeXenogamer]

13:24, sounds like he's saying "SHIT!! OH SHIT!! SHIIIIIIT!"

[Nasfaru]

lol he's counting how many drones that dt is frying at that time

[sinnerstefan]

What is a " dt " ?

[KoreanMint00v]

dark templar.

[republicansridiots]

is this 1 of those david vs goliath matchups?

[MutaliskMaster]

stupid idiot grouping mutas against corsairs. LOL

[Shwamperoos]

MutaliskMaster... did you just call Savior an idiot? Guess what that deems you?

[MutaliskMaster]

Well that was a while ago. Saviour is a much better player now. He has changed his style of playing a bit since that game.

[shadowlightn]

Bisu is a better player now also.

[MutaliskMaster]

thats true lol

[mooseproduce]

:|

Did Savior MISS the minerals with his drones at the beginning?.. Or was that some kind of weird lag?

[progenitor00]

the 2 best players in the world dooking it out. FANTASTIC.

[xonejunx]

even watching this hurts my head

so fast.. crazy apm and strats

[PanzerKonigstiger]

wauuuu!!! bisuuuu..always attacks from shadowss!!1 what a dark templar xD!!!

what an impresive army coming of nowhere =O!!

[PanzerKonigstiger]

another lost of savior....he is one of the best zerg players?? what a shame...always losing in the same form...that he never upgrade his overlords!!!!!!

[chuckycol]

wow your bad, learn about savior... and minerals...

[PanzerKonigstiger]

learn what? how to lost at the eyes of the entire world?

[inhuman216]

losing is ok

[Larviii]

Rofl the crowd goes nuts when those psi storms kill about 5 lurkers :D

[PiorunPL]

i thik on comentator get orgasm few times and other must to chane his pens cos he make at last big poo

dont know why Korean commentators are so sick -_-

[madness44911]

what the fuck did you just say?

[inhuman216]

I reckon you never played on lan shops before?

[Arckitekt]

yes! good tech by the protoss, reavers, temps lots of canon

[rocharlzzzz]

savior should have improved the overlord's movement in order to get quickly where the dt's were attacking

[Sage25]

again he focuses too much on his macro. and so he lost.

[Korsair777]

he needs to tech real bad -.-

[Septerran]

haha when he saves the replay he somehow overwrites the old one and then gets confused and starts to scroll between the folders trying to figure out what happend :D.. sucks to have a bad day

[mcgarrah]

BISU!!!. the best part is hes only 17 and he took a vaction before this match instead of practicing.

[KizZBG]

lol that probe stayed in there for about 5 mins.

[mrscheng]

OMG how can savior NOT win this game? i get really frustrated...

why does he lair min-exp? why slow ovl? ARGH!!!!

in my opinion, maybe 4 bases is a bit too much that early too the game, even for savior. he didnt do any damage at all with his mutas @ bisubase. he cudv done some serious damage there..

but hey, maybe i should save this stuff for the forum instead. -_-gg

[kuja900]

lol remember who the pro korean pwnzor is sAviOr will get his revenge

[iloveReach]

god I started shaking just by watching Savior's side of the game when Bisu completely rules the map like he fucking made it O.O

[151515cg]

lol

[Kalfastehpro]

zomfg first, thnx for FPVods =)