the 2 speed powerglide is the most popular drag racing transmission out there. more people drag race autos and im not talking about the hondas that show up. people that race every weekend mostly run autos.
i drag race my mustang its auto beat manual cars left and right every time they go to shift u gain a car length. manual is not faster by any means my auto will fuck up any manual anyday of the week learn your facts i can tell alot of u in here drive manual because your trying to stand up for your transmission is that why almost every drag car is auto so manuals faster but most drag cars r auto makes sense fucken faggits get your fuckin facts straight
Key word is in the description - STOCK. No shit a stock auto will be slower. Get a Level 10 trans. and an aftermarket TCU, and the manual will lose by good amount.
This is not true and this video is quite old and is comparing standard auto tranny not DSG or twin clutch tranny, twin clutch tranny is faster than manuel and to me more fun to drive.
Regradless why do you need an 03 Eclipse in manual? I have an 02 Ecllipse Spyder GT and its auto. Why? Because either way the car isn't that fast. The 3G's were based on looks not speed. And I'll take looks over speed anyday of the week.
I'm sorry but this video made no sense. Yes a manual is going to get a better jump but once the speed starts picking up your not gonna be that out matched. Not to mention the tiptronic going in the automatics. no way he pulls away that late in this supposed race. Hell you can look at the specs online of the 0-60 times between auto and manual of the car and see there's not a big difference.
this doesnt prove anything? in fact. i believe the auto kicked the manuals ass. and auto canbe just as fast as a manual, but then that depends on the driver
Automatics still have ways to go before being better than manual. Sure they upshift faster than a human and more consistently, but that only helps if you're drag racing (straight line speed). On a track, which is where true performance comes into play, an automatic doesn't downshift through more than one gear smoothly enough and even hesitates in some cars, which is why professional racers still use a manual. And autos are still heavier and more expensive, as well as less reliable
@psychoticflow1 how many posters here on youtube actually track race? lmfao. face it, most here will likely engage in some stop light to stop light racing sqirmishes in which some middle aged dude in an auto luxury car will rape their dumb asses. reliabilty is all about maintenance vs abuse. in other words i can beat on your stick car and break it or i can ride it smoothly and make it last
@highway955 lmfao the autos i was speaking about that shift faster than manual are found on $100k+ cars, face it how many youtube posters actually own one? Just about as many that track race. Reliability isn't just about maintenance vs abuse, its also about DESIGN. Let's talk about that, most automatics BY DESIGN use a torque converter that saps away more power, so its slower. And, they are BY DESIGN more complicated than standard, which is why they are less reliable. Know before you post.
@highway955 And note, very few automatic cars actually get better 0-60 or 1/4 mile times than their manual counterparts, noticed i only said they shift faster.
@psychoticflow1 thats very true, but keep in mind that these are seasoned professionals that carry out these 1/4 mile et tests. average jo is slow to shift, slow to clutch, incompetent at a decent launch, unaware of the proper rpm to lay a shift. put the same average moron in the auto and he'll do better. in the real world we come across so few people that are VERY good at driving stick cars.
@highway955 Actually no, the moron you described most likely doesn't know how to drive a manual to begin with. It's very easy to quick-shift and even do a decent launch, and as for proper rpm, you can learn with practice. As far as so few people in the world that are very good at driving stick cars, don't let America fool you. In practically every other country in the world, manual is what's driven most, just like how every other country uses the metric system and we don't.
@psychoticflow1 but these are exactly the kind of people that boast how much quicker stick cars are aka the people that can't even operate them properly but consider themselves experts. as far as the outside america comment; i take it no one is crashing oversees in manuals????? lemme guess all the wrecks are caused by autos.
@highway955 Crashes occur because of the driver and circumstance, not the transmission. Funny how you have such a heavy opinion against people that boast heavily for manual transmission, when you are practically doing the same for automatics. What makes your boast any different then theirs? What makes you such an expert ? As far as the people who boast, if a transmission is quicker its quicker, what does the driver have to do with it?
@psychoticflow1 who's boasting? isnt the youtube line of the day "autos require no skill". so why would i boast about mashing a gas pedal? you wanna borrow some clear eyes?
@highway955 "most here will likely engage in some stop light to stop light racing sqirmishes in which some middle aged dude in an auto luxury car will rape their dumb asses." " average jo is slow to shift, slow to clutch, incompetent at a decent launch, unaware of the proper rpm to lay a shift. put the same average moron in the auto and he'll do better." That's boasting, maybe you need to borrow a brain.
@highway955 Oh and if you actually read the comments, while some talk about the fun of driving a manual, the youtube line of the day is actually "manual is better than automatic for X mechanical reason," not "autos require no skill." You should use those clear eyes on yourself.
@aviomaster "THERE is no AUTOMATIC which will last longer than Manual"
lmao. after a statement like that you better have some proof billy. you seem to talk alot of shit, so man up and make a redible case. this should be good for laughs
Some automatics are better....Most new ones arent too bad, but GM is the only one thats made really good automatics the whole time (and own a Mustang, before its assumed I'm a fanboy)
now if you build a car up to 500+hp a automatic transmission will perform far better especially from a dig (no clutch + high stall = perfect launch instantly) and the fact any automatic shifts faster than a human being is able to will result in one car lenght distance with every shift. just watch a typical high horsepower automatic vs manual car race and you will realize how desperate a manual driver is right on and after the launch
apparently a automatic is slower used in the same car stock vs stock BECAUSE A AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION MEANS MORE POWER LOSS.
now if you take the same car twice developing 150bhp (for example) once with a manual and once with a automatic you´ll have about 128whp with a manual and only 110whp with the automatic transmission. obviously with a low power output, a automatic transmission will not have any advantage from a dig/roll since you can put this amount of power easily to the ground anyway
Traditional Auto's are around 10% inefficient due to fluid friction. Anything that isn't a direct/solid input - drive will always be less efficient and therefore slower.
But your dual-clutch auto's are technically faster because the gear above is already selected and ready to go, so that means shifting is incredibly fast. But that's boring! So manual all the way!
autos def faster off the line because theres no clutch lag but in a race a manual def would win thats why dragsters use autos and nascars use manuals...
Yes, new GOOD autos may be faster by a tenth or two, but, in the long run, who really cares? I drive both, and the manual is WAAAAY more fun. And I'm only 15. That proves that anyone can learn to drive with a proper transmission. In fact, I don't even have my license yet and I can heel and toe downshift.
u guys mix paddle shifting w automatics. what? an automatic means u put it in d and never take it out of it. also, 1000 hp drag cars? wtf? i think this is about average cars, not souped up track only. why do u think race cars r still manual? (stick or paddle) u don't think they ever experimented with fully automatic race cars? they sure did! (and failed) also, if u own a, say, miata, why the hell would u want auto? just buy a buick, granpa! try 2 pry my stick outta my cold dead hands!
I prefer a manual just for the sake of rev matching and heel toe downshifting. It's a lot more fun to drive. In some cases it is faster than an automatic transmission, but with some of the new dual clutch transmissions and the technology that is used in newer transmissions, it is impossible to outshift some of the newer cars. But I'd still prefer a manual.
I prefer a manual just for the sake of rev matching and heel toe downshifting. It's a lot more fun to drive. In some cases it is faster than an automatic transmission, but with some of the new dual clutch transmissions and the technology that is used in newer transmissions, it is impossible to outshift some of the newer cars. But I'd still prefer a manual.
@gh2ghost1991 and in a auto u can rev up and place the power to the wheels faster witch gives it a quicker launch and most autos have bad low end but good mid and upper tq and by reving it recovers the low tq and the lose of hp common since in mecanics cant lose tq and hp that hasnt been placed at the drive line yet 2000 crown vic 306 ford racing 4rw70 tran b and m shift kit 340 rwhp 315 tq
manual makes you faster... a clutch uses a completely mechanical connection between the tranny and the fly wheel.. while an automatic uses a torque converter to transfer power from the fly wheel to the tranny. a torque converter has a liquid connection therefore losing some power through the torque converter that the engine puts out. thats why manuals are more fuel efficient because there is no power from the engine being wasted it is all being used.
i agree manual is much faster... i own a manual transmission my self and i notice a big difference in performance. its because a clutch has a completely mechanical connection to the tranny from the fly wheel. while automatics use a torque converter.. which uses a liquid oil connection so a lot of the power is lost through a torqu converter.
@blowupuate13 off-road, like rock-climbing or other really steep stuff, I would think a manual is necessary for speed control. On-road towing, the modern autos are awesome.
I ASK: has anyone watched a car with over a 1000 HP go down the 1320 with a manual trans?? no.. manuals are great for ricers that have what they think is big horsepower (a whopping 160 at the crank) but show me a Charger, Camaro, Stang, Chevelle, any car with more than a 800 at the wheels go down the 1/4 with a manual..
@FoxQuadRider1225 have you seen ryan woons supra? 1k+ rwhp and still using a manny trans..
and manual isnt for ricers... manual makes you pay more attention and its just generally more fun to drive..
i have an 87 supra (roughly 200 whp nothing terribly fast...) and it has the R154 (5 spd) trans and when i drive that i pay more attention than when i drive my dads 08 tacoma *auto*
and auto is more popular in the 1/4 because it generally shifts faster and they usually only have 2-3 "gears"..
I ASK: has anyone watched a 1000 HP Chevy Camaro go down the 1320 with a manual?? manuals are great for ricers with what they think is big horsepower (a whopping 160 at the crank) but when u got 1000 at the wheels, show me a clutch in world that is affordable that can handle it..
@FoxQuadRider1225 so in your scenario, you can afford a 1000hp Camaro but not a clutch for it? how does that make any sense? besides if you know how to drive it, you won't constantly burn up the clutch, unless you're revving it to 5000 and dumping the clutch for a fast launch, but watch your ATF boil in your auto as you power brake it, even with coolers and stall converters they still get too hot and they brake, plus don't transfer as much power and they slip
the manual tranny is lighter by 50 to 100 pounds. you lose less power to the wheels with a manual and the more control you have of the shifting points, ,the better you are. so manual is always better
@kenfo0 their cars would be faster if they used manual lol. ..... the auto tranny has more parts and heavier. so you lose power to the wheels. as far as F1 cars, they have enough power as is and the way those guys drive, they need the automatic with the shifter.
@pkidro your post, like most on yt, made me sad for the human race. i thought you'd take 1 minute to find out what you're talking about and think for a minute. why so lazy? F1 cars are RACE CARS. SPEED IS VITAL, and yet they are using an electrically shifted transmission. If a manual allowed them to be faster, that's what they'd be using. Their transmission allows for full power shifts in MILLISECONDS. Far faster than a person can shift.
@pkidro an F1 would be slower with a manual, the auto can shift faster than any person can ever dream of. The F1 drivers are happy to drive autos b/c they can gain over 2 seconds per lap.
@adamslurch71 f1 is not the same automatic as a normal car
its a dual clutch manual with electronic shifting
that mean no torque converter
the reason why manual go faster than auto (for same gearing and ratio and engine) is that the automatic have a torque converter that is never 100% efficient
on the manual conterpart, the clutch, if the grip is still good when fully engaged will have 100% efficient
@atomic1234567890 it is NOT a manual. manuals need clutches, operated by foot, to operate. these commit full throttle shifts...not possible in "manual" without damage. They shift FAR faster than any manual. Tractor trailers have a transmission where a clutch is used from N to 1. Guess what the manufacturer, the truck company and all drivers call them? yes, automatics.
@kenfo0 no they dont u fuck they gotta shift thru all their gears and most of them have 16 gears...u dont know what ur talkin about so shut the fuck up pussy
@yz250frider1 LOL...is that supposed to make you sound tough, you cross-dressing, weiner-tucking, homosexual prostitute? STFU and go watch your queer eye vids, fake tough guy.
@yz250frider1 not you again. what happened? dvd player broke? no clean dresses tonight, or just no "work" out on the corner? You can't even use "you're" correctly, you homosexual fantasy projector. Shove off now you silly fruit; you are not scary, nor tough, nor interesting, nor even a little bright.
@yz250frider1 that is hilarious. know why? "bitch" was a term really fruity faggots used. i guess it hasn't really changed, now that I think about it. Ok, enough of your homosexual fantasies: show everyone the "16-speed" F1 transmission. Still can't, huh? How sad for you. A jackass, fruity homo and know-nothing, you have nothing to say yet yammer on and on as if it will impress someone. Run along now nancy.
that was a fiction video ....was that a gt vs a gs?sportronics are fast at shifting lile a ratchet shift.i drove 928,911 porches 5 spdmustangs,camero 4spd, vetts also.it doesnt matter.
I am tired of you dumbass automatic drivers sittin on my ass at traffic lights. They cant park worth shit they sit on your ass in the middle of a hill. I mean is it that hard to give some respect? Why don't you go out and drive a stick. You might find it fun.
@SnakeSafety101 I don't understand your logic, what does an automatic transmission have to do with someone parking bad or choosing to drive on your ass? I would think the fault would lie with the driver, not his tranny. All the tranny is doing is shifting gear, the driver is the one not parking correctly or stopping right on your tail.
@AJSokrates Thank you, as technology progress the old school logic of Manual>Auto starts to get blurred and eventually outdated. More automatics are now shifting as fast as manuals and more manuals are incorporating automatic characteristics such as the newly marketed Down-shift rev-matching manual transmission.
@AJSokrates actually - there´s a little difference between a automatic and a DSG double clutch trans. automatic transmission shifts with dynamic torque converter - double clutch (semi auto) trans shifts with electrically controlled twin clutch. it might also have prnd like a automatic transmission but it´s definetely defined as a double clutch paddle gearbox otherwise it´d not have paddles ;)
There are many transmissions with paddles including:
2 tronic, 7g tronic,steptronic (both 1 and 2) dsg,multitronic, s tronic,tiptronic s,PDK and many more.
They are classified as automatic because they change gear instead of you.
Overall I read all your post below and I mostly agree you but seriously every transmission that is able to change gears without human (D-Drive) is automatic even is it work totally different but it is auto e.g. PDK.
If I were to get a new camaro ZL585 SS with around 600 horse, I am a new driver to manual, what would be better to get this car with a 560 hp engine and auto tranny, or 585 hp engine with a manual? I am a new driver to manual but I have been told I will get better and the manual would be faster, any advice?
@bigrudeth ...I'll try to be more polite with my advice than SuperAngryTaco...
I would recommend manual as well. It really doesn't take long to learn, and when you get the hang of it, it becomes second nature. Also, manual is WAY more fun than automatic, you feel as if you have almost total control over the car. Not to mention it's faster. If you're going to get an awesome car like that, don't waste it with an auto tranny :)
@NutritiouslyHigh alright thanks! sounds great, and I will be getting a manual and surely post some videos when I get it, ordering in January, should have it around May 2011
The only reason the manual one got so much lead at the beginning is because he dumped the clutch and launched it. something u can only do in a manual. so he pretty much took off at around 40km/hr (with the help of AWD) as opposed to the auto who had to start from 0km/hr.
do a rolling start and it will be a MUCH closer figure.
i own a manual transmission 07 mustang. do i beat other 07s that are automatic? yes. but ask any person that drag races hardcore. most beefed up cars use an automatic. faster shifting and different power band. automatic transmission also compensates for the speed it loses by being faster than a human hand and foot.
the 70 chevells have the greatest trannys of all there impossable to blow and they take off like a rocket the chevey turbo 350 trans is an auto and most chevy guys that race run a turbo 350 for the abuility to put the power to the ground
Rwhp per Rwhp the auto will be faster. The only reason a low power car like this is slower with an automatic is because the little wimp of an engine can't overcome the small increase to parasitic loss and the rwhp for the car drops.
@CharlieIIpics exacly i agree 100% an auto will out do any manual as long as they are both high power engines because of the power bands in the gears a manual is usualy between 2-4000 rpm and an auto is usualy 3-6000 rpms its all about the shift kit and tourqe your putting down
the the manual is only winnng at the jump the auto is still running just as fast the only reason the manual even gets nthe jump is because he can dump his clutch in an auto you neutrall launch and your putting alot at risk try racing my auto ss nova and i think you will retract your statments about automatics run a stall converter and a good shift kit and a manual will seem like its just another car manuals are just for fun in racing most drag cars are actually manuals look at the 70 chevell
wow man nice vid. now i'm really convinced autos are slow based on 2 slow economy cars slugging it out. PS- you do know an auto can redline in any gear right? try mashing the effin pedal
Your video is right, everybody knows that manual transmissions are faster than the classic automatics but the new double clunch trasmission (dsg or dct or pdk) are way faster than manual!!!!!!
@MrAlpap and you lose out on all the feeling of having a stick shift....if i wanted to control a car with paddleshifts id go play gran turismo or something...
You simply cannot prove that manual is generally faster than automatic or vise versa for the simple fact that gear ratios vary from one car to another.
So while a manual might be faster on one type of car, it might be slower on another.
@wildbloodydragon You can prove it generally through statistics if the gear ratios are similar which in my experience they always are. A automatic tranny will generally lose anywhere from 15-20% of crank hp going through the tranny to the wheels, while a manual usually will lose anywhere from 10-15% (USUALLY not always). For example my Mustang manual stock dynoed at about 182whp and an auto was at about 173 - 175whp. Also to be very precise manual trannys tend to way just a bit less.
@wolf1010 I doubt if the different is that big. Then again, while one car is better on manual another car is better on automatic. It's all just comes down to what car you're looking at man.
Dyno numbers vary too even between the same cars (as you prolly know) because of the condition the cars are in and whatever parts or even oil is used on them.
But it's true manuals are almost always lighter. Not by much though.
@wildbloodydragon 100% agree, dynos are about as useful as mail nipples. High power dragsters and stuff are obviously going to be faster with a well built automatic but as far as most conventional cars the manuals seem to get a little boost. My old Mazda 6 stock auto was about 3 car lengths behind a manual one in a 1/4 though. But a lot of other factors play a roles as well as you said. =]
@wolf1010 For sure bro. I mean not even dragsters, just a typical muscle car with a lotta torque can be hard to handle with a manual if the driver doesn't know the car good enough. I can drive 4 cylinder manuals no problem, I driven an 08 Si and a 2010 Evo, both manual. Easy as hell. But if my Z28 was a manual...I dunno if my shifting could get the best out of it.
@atomic1234567890 Sure but nowadays automatics have the same number of gears. What you're saying about the power loss is true but when you look at the real world results the fact that an automatic minimizes human error have a much more drastic improvement regardless of power loss.
if people knew how to drive a manual car in north america there would be less accidents. People are really stupid when it comes to cars. You need to understand how a car works before driving, otherwise no licence. GET MY POINT? NO, then your a dumbass.
@BeeFreeish you think a manual will make up for shitty drivers. think about it dude, if you cant drive properly in an auto, then how the fuck would u stay on the road doing more work as in a stick car? if anything its the fast and furious assholes in stick cars causing a shitload of wrecks. everyone is billy badass because their little pissant 4 cyl nas a stick.aww how cute. manual is stoneage shit
@coastalpacific 1) are you trying to say u cant tell your speed in an auto? to speed in an auto u "shift up too" ie you press the damn pedal. 2) a bad driver is a bad driver no matter what you test on. most idiot wouldnt pass in a baby stroller. 3) no the accidents would be " i stalled out at the light when it turned green at got rear ended". 4) if you think people dont multitask in stick cars then u also believe bush healed the economy.
Yes in Europe i think 90% people drive before get licenses with manual transmission. Me too I am driving from 11 years manual. If you come to exam with 10 lessons experience, it would be hard po pass exam. Sorry for bad English. I am 15 :)
@BeeFreeish yesss!! i see WAYY too many people braking in the middle of turns, riding there breaks athe whole way down a hill killing them and people that think hitting your breaks as hard as you can will save your life..
@hartattack940 manuals are ALOT safer in bad situations! for example, if your drive wheels loose traction and you slide out (rwd) or wash out (fwd) you can press your clutch in to quickly regain traction.
@hartattack940 also, if you were to fall asleep while driveing a manual.. it will stall out if your not on the gas enough for the gear with the clutch engaged.. automatic will just keep coasting to your doom. and people can multi task while driveing a manual.. but its actualy a good thing because that requires ALOT more consentration than in an automatic, and you'll be paying more atention to what your doing.
@BeeFreeish How so? A new driver to manual, and even a semi-experienced driver is paying attention to not only the road, but they have to listen to the engine RPM's and clutch, and shift to the correct gear. This all makes you focus less on the road. Also you are driving one handed when shifting. With automatic, you just have to pay attention to the road. So when people say "manual is safer, because they pay attention to the road more", that is not necessarily true.
@NateN34 Manual makes you focus more on driving, because you have to prepare more.
Example: you are driving up a hill in 2nd about to shift to 3rd, but you notice a car slowing in front of you. If you were to shift into 3rd you would be forced to slow down and possible not have enough power to accelerate up the hill so you should keep it in 2nd to prepare for the slowing car's next move.
With an automatic all you would have done was braked a bit. My point is manuals force you to concentrate
Sorry but that is a load of horseshit. Doesn`t matter if a bad driver knows how to drive a manual. They still are a bad driver.
Also, bad drivers may or may not know how a car works. There can be gear heads that are far too aggressive when driving resulting in alot of accidents. Your logic is simply flawed and contains much to many variables that you didnt consider.
@cyrel257 - you know whats real funny. i just scoped your profile and realized that youre either from or in the phillipines. ahahaha. rofl. an asian dude gving car tips? cmon now. honestly. im done with u
hahaha. you fuck tard; i;ve owned 6 stick cars sinnce 1994, lolol. talk out your ass much? i'm a serious racer dude. i dont want interrupted speed. you know that1-pause-2-pause-3-pause bullshit.
@cyrel257 - a class A for automatic cars? omg. now everyone reading this shit knows youre a total imbecile. youre self destructing worse than bush did. hold your own cock dweeb
@cyrel257- i can drive a manual car much better than you can articulate words like wa8 and s2pid. keep assuming dolt. your foolishness amuses me, lol.
@cyrel257 - yeah good observation moron, lol. i suppose if i criticized the color of money i dont like money too right? where do you tards get your logic?
most of you fags are clueless as fuck. of course you can make an auto redline. get on the gas hard idiot. an auto shifting under full throttle is very firm and crisp, faster than any numb-nut can shift
@outoforder420 and you come off as a cyrel1257 fanboy. do i really need to bring out the webcam and my class A license?ahaha. looks like both you retards assumed a little too much.
The only thing I assumed is that you are a dick, and you have proven me correct. And what the hell does your supposed class A license have to do with any of this ?
FAKE
akadessyd 2 weeks ago
Ask any real racer, a auto is better due to the fact u get the perfect shift everytime..
dragracin5 2 months ago
the 2 speed powerglide is the most popular drag racing transmission out there. more people drag race autos and im not talking about the hondas that show up. people that race every weekend mostly run autos.
1stOPFOR 3 months ago
autos are tuned for 1500rpm while manuel is higher the stick wins any day
MrNeed4speedpro 3 months ago
auto drag car > manuel drift car
branman50314 4 months ago
i drag race my mustang its auto beat manual cars left and right every time they go to shift u gain a car length. manual is not faster by any means my auto will fuck up any manual anyday of the week learn your facts i can tell alot of u in here drive manual because your trying to stand up for your transmission is that why almost every drag car is auto so manuals faster but most drag cars r auto makes sense fucken faggits get your fuckin facts straight
branman50314 4 months ago
Key word is in the description - STOCK. No shit a stock auto will be slower. Get a Level 10 trans. and an aftermarket TCU, and the manual will lose by good amount.
MrPaulrevere 4 months ago
your comparing 180hp cars come on go 300hp and above youll see autos will kick manuals ass any day.
MASISUSA1993 4 months ago 2
This is not true and this video is quite old and is comparing standard auto tranny not DSG or twin clutch tranny, twin clutch tranny is faster than manuel and to me more fun to drive.
Dimitri0809 5 months ago
@Davidmp101 not even. Auto will always loose if there the same cars stock for stock
MultiChicklets 5 months ago
The manual has more stock horsepower. /fail.
wellfuckyoumr 5 months ago
there is a reason they are slow...they are Eclipses.....
covenant2005 5 months ago
Regradless why do you need an 03 Eclipse in manual? I have an 02 Ecllipse Spyder GT and its auto. Why? Because either way the car isn't that fast. The 3G's were based on looks not speed. And I'll take looks over speed anyday of the week.
6PcMcSuckits 6 months ago
I'm sorry but this video made no sense. Yes a manual is going to get a better jump but once the speed starts picking up your not gonna be that out matched. Not to mention the tiptronic going in the automatics. no way he pulls away that late in this supposed race. Hell you can look at the specs online of the 0-60 times between auto and manual of the car and see there's not a big difference.
6PcMcSuckits 6 months ago
wow my automatic rx8 is horrible its slower then a firebird or a pontiac and i bet manual is so much faster mine's 04
MegaCrazywow 7 months ago
this doesnt prove anything? in fact. i believe the auto kicked the manuals ass. and auto canbe just as fast as a manual, but then that depends on the driver
Davidmp101 7 months ago
people in america need to eat stuff from mc donalds thats why they drive automatics, no wounder america = fattest country
LeetKrew090 8 months ago
@LeetKrew090 im not even gonna try to argue with that mainly because its true us americans love us some Mc Donalds :p
chuckpuck240 6 months ago
Automatics still have ways to go before being better than manual. Sure they upshift faster than a human and more consistently, but that only helps if you're drag racing (straight line speed). On a track, which is where true performance comes into play, an automatic doesn't downshift through more than one gear smoothly enough and even hesitates in some cars, which is why professional racers still use a manual. And autos are still heavier and more expensive, as well as less reliable
psychoticflow1 8 months ago
@psychoticflow1 how many posters here on youtube actually track race? lmfao. face it, most here will likely engage in some stop light to stop light racing sqirmishes in which some middle aged dude in an auto luxury car will rape their dumb asses. reliabilty is all about maintenance vs abuse. in other words i can beat on your stick car and break it or i can ride it smoothly and make it last
highway955 8 months ago
@highway955 lmfao the autos i was speaking about that shift faster than manual are found on $100k+ cars, face it how many youtube posters actually own one? Just about as many that track race. Reliability isn't just about maintenance vs abuse, its also about DESIGN. Let's talk about that, most automatics BY DESIGN use a torque converter that saps away more power, so its slower. And, they are BY DESIGN more complicated than standard, which is why they are less reliable. Know before you post.
psychoticflow1 8 months ago
@highway955 And note, very few automatic cars actually get better 0-60 or 1/4 mile times than their manual counterparts, noticed i only said they shift faster.
psychoticflow1 8 months ago
@psychoticflow1 thats very true, but keep in mind that these are seasoned professionals that carry out these 1/4 mile et tests. average jo is slow to shift, slow to clutch, incompetent at a decent launch, unaware of the proper rpm to lay a shift. put the same average moron in the auto and he'll do better. in the real world we come across so few people that are VERY good at driving stick cars.
highway955 8 months ago
@highway955 Actually no, the moron you described most likely doesn't know how to drive a manual to begin with. It's very easy to quick-shift and even do a decent launch, and as for proper rpm, you can learn with practice. As far as so few people in the world that are very good at driving stick cars, don't let America fool you. In practically every other country in the world, manual is what's driven most, just like how every other country uses the metric system and we don't.
psychoticflow1 8 months ago
@psychoticflow1 but these are exactly the kind of people that boast how much quicker stick cars are aka the people that can't even operate them properly but consider themselves experts. as far as the outside america comment; i take it no one is crashing oversees in manuals????? lemme guess all the wrecks are caused by autos.
highway955 8 months ago
@highway955 Crashes occur because of the driver and circumstance, not the transmission. Funny how you have such a heavy opinion against people that boast heavily for manual transmission, when you are practically doing the same for automatics. What makes your boast any different then theirs? What makes you such an expert ? As far as the people who boast, if a transmission is quicker its quicker, what does the driver have to do with it?
psychoticflow1 8 months ago
@psychoticflow1 who's boasting? isnt the youtube line of the day "autos require no skill". so why would i boast about mashing a gas pedal? you wanna borrow some clear eyes?
highway955 8 months ago
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@highway955 "most here will likely engage in some stop light to stop light racing sqirmishes in which some middle aged dude in an auto luxury car will rape their dumb asses." " average jo is slow to shift, slow to clutch, incompetent at a decent launch, unaware of the proper rpm to lay a shift. put the same average moron in the auto and he'll do better." That's boasting, maybe you need to borrow a brain.
psychoticflow1 8 months ago
@highway955 Oh and if you actually read the comments, while some talk about the fun of driving a manual, the youtube line of the day is actually "manual is better than automatic for X mechanical reason," not "autos require no skill." You should use those clear eyes on yourself.
psychoticflow1 8 months ago
MANUAL Transmission is lighter , has better gas mileage , and will last forever I know BMW 1998 with 476.000 Miles and still running strong
With Automatic this is mission impossible.
THERE is no AUTOMATIC which will last longer than Manual.
aviomaster 9 months ago
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@aviomaster "THERE is no AUTOMATIC which will last longer than Manual"
lmao. after a statement like that you better have some proof billy. you seem to talk alot of shit, so man up and make a redible case. this should be good for laughs
highway955 8 months ago
Some automatics are better....Most new ones arent too bad, but GM is the only one thats made really good automatics the whole time (and own a Mustang, before its assumed I'm a fanboy)
Punisher7121 9 months ago
driver dont know how to drive fast .. . hahah
gentlejune 9 months ago
this video professed nothing all companies make different automatic transmission i have a accord automatic and i race a mustang Manuel and i still won
the new eclipse are like bugs and sooo slow... the old eclipse are much faster from 90s
HONDACOMPAQ 10 months ago
now if you build a car up to 500+hp a automatic transmission will perform far better especially from a dig (no clutch + high stall = perfect launch instantly) and the fact any automatic shifts faster than a human being is able to will result in one car lenght distance with every shift. just watch a typical high horsepower automatic vs manual car race and you will realize how desperate a manual driver is right on and after the launch
HEMIH3AD 10 months ago
apparently a automatic is slower used in the same car stock vs stock BECAUSE A AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION MEANS MORE POWER LOSS.
now if you take the same car twice developing 150bhp (for example) once with a manual and once with a automatic you´ll have about 128whp with a manual and only 110whp with the automatic transmission. obviously with a low power output, a automatic transmission will not have any advantage from a dig/roll since you can put this amount of power easily to the ground anyway
HEMIH3AD 10 months ago
automatic is slower. DEPENDING on the cars.
niignastii 10 months ago
Traditional Auto's are around 10% inefficient due to fluid friction. Anything that isn't a direct/solid input - drive will always be less efficient and therefore slower.
But your dual-clutch auto's are technically faster because the gear above is already selected and ready to go, so that means shifting is incredibly fast. But that's boring! So manual all the way!
westyy1993 10 months ago
autos def faster off the line because theres no clutch lag but in a race a manual def would win thats why dragsters use autos and nascars use manuals...
reap62 11 months ago
automatic is boring!, unless you drive a rolls royce or maybach.
hishonline 11 months ago
Yes, new GOOD autos may be faster by a tenth or two, but, in the long run, who really cares? I drive both, and the manual is WAAAAY more fun. And I'm only 15. That proves that anyone can learn to drive with a proper transmission. In fact, I don't even have my license yet and I can heel and toe downshift.
gyro231995 11 months ago
Are they even racing? They look so slow. Maybe they need some body kits and neon lights. That would make them faster. Just ask Paul Walker, he knows.
RSChris666 1 year ago
manual is faster then AOD to a point when it comes to glides and cruiseomatics
MrSilent937 1 year ago
u guys mix paddle shifting w automatics. what? an automatic means u put it in d and never take it out of it. also, 1000 hp drag cars? wtf? i think this is about average cars, not souped up track only. why do u think race cars r still manual? (stick or paddle) u don't think they ever experimented with fully automatic race cars? they sure did! (and failed) also, if u own a, say, miata, why the hell would u want auto? just buy a buick, granpa! try 2 pry my stick outta my cold dead hands!
secutorclaudius 1 year ago
This day in age. Auto's are faster. example the 370z auto is faster then the 6 speed
Zswag22 1 year ago
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I prefer a manual just for the sake of rev matching and heel toe downshifting. It's a lot more fun to drive. In some cases it is faster than an automatic transmission, but with some of the new dual clutch transmissions and the technology that is used in newer transmissions, it is impossible to outshift some of the newer cars. But I'd still prefer a manual.
SuPeRgOoN69 1 year ago
I prefer a manual just for the sake of rev matching and heel toe downshifting. It's a lot more fun to drive. In some cases it is faster than an automatic transmission, but with some of the new dual clutch transmissions and the technology that is used in newer transmissions, it is impossible to outshift some of the newer cars. But I'd still prefer a manual.
SuPeRgOoN69 1 year ago
@gh2ghost1991 and in a auto u can rev up and place the power to the wheels faster witch gives it a quicker launch and most autos have bad low end but good mid and upper tq and by reving it recovers the low tq and the lose of hp common since in mecanics cant lose tq and hp that hasnt been placed at the drive line yet 2000 crown vic 306 ford racing 4rw70 tran b and m shift kit 340 rwhp 315 tq
TheJohnel2010 1 year ago
I lost respect for this video not because of the music but when he said "mad fast"
RideThePONYgt 1 year ago
manual makes you faster... a clutch uses a completely mechanical connection between the tranny and the fly wheel.. while an automatic uses a torque converter to transfer power from the fly wheel to the tranny. a torque converter has a liquid connection therefore losing some power through the torque converter that the engine puts out. thats why manuals are more fuel efficient because there is no power from the engine being wasted it is all being used.
imnotaprofessional1 1 year ago
i agree manual is much faster... i own a manual transmission my self and i notice a big difference in performance. its because a clutch has a completely mechanical connection to the tranny from the fly wheel. while automatics use a torque converter.. which uses a liquid oil connection so a lot of the power is lost through a torqu converter.
imnotaprofessional1 1 year ago
Alright what about off road auto vs manual I say manual wins unless you are towing something impossible to move like a honda civic towing a semi
blowupuate13 1 year ago
@blowupuate13 off-road, like rock-climbing or other really steep stuff, I would think a manual is necessary for speed control. On-road towing, the modern autos are awesome.
kenfo0 1 year ago
I ASK: has anyone watched a car with over a 1000 HP go down the 1320 with a manual trans?? no.. manuals are great for ricers that have what they think is big horsepower (a whopping 160 at the crank) but show me a Charger, Camaro, Stang, Chevelle, any car with more than a 800 at the wheels go down the 1/4 with a manual..
FoxQuadRider1225 1 year ago
@FoxQuadRider1225 have you seen ryan woons supra? 1k+ rwhp and still using a manny trans..
and manual isnt for ricers... manual makes you pay more attention and its just generally more fun to drive..
i have an 87 supra (roughly 200 whp nothing terribly fast...) and it has the R154 (5 spd) trans and when i drive that i pay more attention than when i drive my dads 08 tacoma *auto*
and auto is more popular in the 1/4 because it generally shifts faster and they usually only have 2-3 "gears"..
dwnrety1 1 year ago
I ASK: has anyone watched a 1000 HP Chevy Camaro go down the 1320 with a manual?? manuals are great for ricers with what they think is big horsepower (a whopping 160 at the crank) but when u got 1000 at the wheels, show me a clutch in world that is affordable that can handle it..
FoxQuadRider1225 1 year ago
@FoxQuadRider1225 so in your scenario, you can afford a 1000hp Camaro but not a clutch for it? how does that make any sense? besides if you know how to drive it, you won't constantly burn up the clutch, unless you're revving it to 5000 and dumping the clutch for a fast launch, but watch your ATF boil in your auto as you power brake it, even with coolers and stall converters they still get too hot and they brake, plus don't transfer as much power and they slip
snakesonaplane2 1 year ago
its proof one guys ass is fatter than the others...
ohh, and i am throwing the b.s. flag. Id like to see you shift [I]any[I] manual faster than an auto can shift.
jsteinberg7 1 year ago
Thumbs down for you ;)
sa8901 1 year ago
what did you record over at :44? looks like a greek wedding
alexbrave2 1 year ago
the manual tranny is lighter by 50 to 100 pounds. you lose less power to the wheels with a manual and the more control you have of the shifting points, ,the better you are. so manual is always better
pkidro 1 year ago
@pkidro uh, no. what do formula one cars use? (no, it is not manual)
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 their cars would be faster if they used manual lol. ..... the auto tranny has more parts and heavier. so you lose power to the wheels. as far as F1 cars, they have enough power as is and the way those guys drive, they need the automatic with the shifter.
pkidro 1 year ago
@pkidro your post, like most on yt, made me sad for the human race. i thought you'd take 1 minute to find out what you're talking about and think for a minute. why so lazy? F1 cars are RACE CARS. SPEED IS VITAL, and yet they are using an electrically shifted transmission. If a manual allowed them to be faster, that's what they'd be using. Their transmission allows for full power shifts in MILLISECONDS. Far faster than a person can shift.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@pkidro an F1 would be slower with a manual, the auto can shift faster than any person can ever dream of. The F1 drivers are happy to drive autos b/c they can gain over 2 seconds per lap.
adamslurch71 1 year ago
@adamslurch71 f1 is not the same automatic as a normal car
its a dual clutch manual with electronic shifting
that mean no torque converter
the reason why manual go faster than auto (for same gearing and ratio and engine) is that the automatic have a torque converter that is never 100% efficient
on the manual conterpart, the clutch, if the grip is still good when fully engaged will have 100% efficient
atomic1234567890 1 year ago
@atomic1234567890 by your arguement, F1 cars don't have an engine, because it's "not like a normal car".
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 it is manual with dual clutch + electronic shift
and there is a foot clutch for N to 1
atomic1234567890 1 year ago
@atomic1234567890 it is NOT a manual. manuals need clutches, operated by foot, to operate. these commit full throttle shifts...not possible in "manual" without damage. They shift FAR faster than any manual. Tractor trailers have a transmission where a clutch is used from N to 1. Guess what the manufacturer, the truck company and all drivers call them? yes, automatics.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 no they dont u fuck they gotta shift thru all their gears and most of them have 16 gears...u dont know what ur talkin about so shut the fuck up pussy
yz250frider1 1 year ago
@yz250frider1 LOL...is that supposed to make you sound tough, you cross-dressing, weiner-tucking, homosexual prostitute? STFU and go watch your queer eye vids, fake tough guy.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 your a pussy...i bet you like ball sack in ur mouth flamer
yz250frider1 1 year ago
@yz250frider1 not you again. what happened? dvd player broke? no clean dresses tonight, or just no "work" out on the corner? You can't even use "you're" correctly, you homosexual fantasy projector. Shove off now you silly fruit; you are not scary, nor tough, nor interesting, nor even a little bright.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 ur a homo bitch
yz250frider1 1 year ago
@yz250frider1 that is hilarious. know why? "bitch" was a term really fruity faggots used. i guess it hasn't really changed, now that I think about it. Ok, enough of your homosexual fantasies: show everyone the "16-speed" F1 transmission. Still can't, huh? How sad for you. A jackass, fruity homo and know-nothing, you have nothing to say yet yammer on and on as if it will impress someone. Run along now nancy.
kenfo0 1 year ago
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@kenfo0 how about you suck my dick faggot
yz250frider1 1 year ago
is it faster than a DSG transmission?
raven16v 1 year ago
is ot faster than dsg???
raven16v 1 year ago
that was a fiction video ....was that a gt vs a gs?sportronics are fast at shifting lile a ratchet shift.i drove 928,911 porches 5 spdmustangs,camero 4spd, vetts also.it doesnt matter.
211for11 1 year ago
doesnt mattter what you got, auto or stick...thats by the way how you describe it.most dragsters influding a budy has a b/m ratchet
211for11 1 year ago
I am tired of you dumbass automatic drivers sittin on my ass at traffic lights. They cant park worth shit they sit on your ass in the middle of a hill. I mean is it that hard to give some respect? Why don't you go out and drive a stick. You might find it fun.
SnakeSafety101 1 year ago
@SnakeSafety101 I don't understand your logic, what does an automatic transmission have to do with someone parking bad or choosing to drive on your ass? I would think the fault would lie with the driver, not his tranny. All the tranny is doing is shifting gear, the driver is the one not parking correctly or stopping right on your tail.
DistortedJoy 1 year ago
Stop the video on 0:43 looks like he taped over a weddng or somthing hahaha
deathball619 1 year ago 31
@deathball619 HAHA he did hahahahah
judd204 1 year ago
haha i see what your saying. who got married?
switchblade1291 1 year ago
@deathball619
hahaha your right its 0:44 i stop it and it locks like a pop the second or a weeding haahahhaah
nice one ihihihhihi
HONDACOMPAQ 10 months ago
NHRA cars are automatic,what's wrong with auto. tranny's??
GMurphSC06GT 1 year ago
Dude, my whole family drives an Auto Trans car, and we can't drive a stick. I wish I had a manual tranny car.
WinVistaUser2 1 year ago
New automatic are way better than manual for example DSG,Steptronic 2 change gears in faster than human with manual...
However for many peoples manual give more fun while driving.
AJSokrates 1 year ago 19
@AJSokrates Thank you, as technology progress the old school logic of Manual>Auto starts to get blurred and eventually outdated. More automatics are now shifting as fast as manuals and more manuals are incorporating automatic characteristics such as the newly marketed Down-shift rev-matching manual transmission.
DistortedJoy 1 year ago
@DistortedJoy but in standard auto, the efficiency is never at 100% because of the torque converter
atomic1234567890 1 year ago
@AJSokrates Fun and feel of the car my friend =D
TakeItSideways 1 year ago
@AJSokrates those auto tranies would not be put into cheap cars lol, they are pretty expensive
ruskiroma 1 year ago
@AJSokrates See: Smart fortwo semi-automatic. I don't even think the paddle button things are attached to anything.
gyro231995 11 months ago
@AJSokrates DSG is not a automatic - it´s a dual/double clutch transmission (F1 paddle gearbox) = completely different kind of transmission.
HEMIH3AD 10 months ago
@HEMIH3AD
What you are talking about?
DSG is automatic!
Every transmission that has got P, R,N,D is automatic it can have S and manual mode but it is automatic.
Dual clutch is only only type. It can work totally different but if it has got Parking and Drive it is classified as automatic.
AJSokrates 10 months ago
@AJSokrates actually - there´s a little difference between a automatic and a DSG double clutch trans. automatic transmission shifts with dynamic torque converter - double clutch (semi auto) trans shifts with electrically controlled twin clutch. it might also have prnd like a automatic transmission but it´s definetely defined as a double clutch paddle gearbox otherwise it´d not have paddles ;)
HEMIH3AD 10 months ago
@HEMIH3AD
There are many transmissions with paddles including:
2 tronic, 7g tronic,steptronic (both 1 and 2) dsg,multitronic, s tronic,tiptronic s,PDK and many more.
They are classified as automatic because they change gear instead of you.
Overall I read all your post below and I mostly agree you but seriously every transmission that is able to change gears without human (D-Drive) is automatic even is it work totally different but it is auto e.g. PDK.
AJSokrates 10 months ago
@AJSokrates its not about shifting faster its that manuals can shift later than automatics which are preset
kronoseclipse 9 months ago
If I were to get a new camaro ZL585 SS with around 600 horse, I am a new driver to manual, what would be better to get this car with a 560 hp engine and auto tranny, or 585 hp engine with a manual? I am a new driver to manual but I have been told I will get better and the manual would be faster, any advice?
bigrudeth 1 year ago
@bigrudeth
learn to drive a fucking manual.....there's your advice
SuperAngryTaco 1 year ago
@bigrudeth ...I'll try to be more polite with my advice than SuperAngryTaco...
I would recommend manual as well. It really doesn't take long to learn, and when you get the hang of it, it becomes second nature. Also, manual is WAY more fun than automatic, you feel as if you have almost total control over the car. Not to mention it's faster. If you're going to get an awesome car like that, don't waste it with an auto tranny :)
NutritiouslyHigh 1 year ago
@NutritiouslyHigh alright thanks! sounds great, and I will be getting a manual and surely post some videos when I get it, ordering in January, should have it around May 2011
bigrudeth 1 year ago
@bigrudeth Awesome :D and congrats. Camaros are great cars.
NutritiouslyHigh 1 year ago
most car companies will put a stronger engine with a manual than an automatic
simguy665 1 year ago
not every car is faster in manual you noob...
llllpbllll 1 year ago
The only reason the manual one got so much lead at the beginning is because he dumped the clutch and launched it. something u can only do in a manual. so he pretty much took off at around 40km/hr (with the help of AWD) as opposed to the auto who had to start from 0km/hr.
do a rolling start and it will be a MUCH closer figure.
sly180sx 1 year ago
dude if u got the cash then u can make a auto go so fast it will take on 5 manual
czf21 1 year ago
i own a manual transmission 07 mustang. do i beat other 07s that are automatic? yes. but ask any person that drag races hardcore. most beefed up cars use an automatic. faster shifting and different power band. automatic transmission also compensates for the speed it loses by being faster than a human hand and foot.
BrettesHusband 1 year ago
@BrettesHusband
In drag racing are much faster Sequential Manual G-boxes (no need clutch to shift) over classic automatic g-boxes.
Semi-automatic g-boxes are fastest, but it's more complex, expensive and heavier (Supercars).
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
Manual = 99% in Europ = 5 % in America
American drive only Automatic, why ?
Psychopathe24 1 year ago
@Psychopathe24 Because they're too lazy to learn how.
HoogerDam 1 year ago
@HoogerDam
ok :) i'm belgian but in 2015 i going to leave in Quebec :) vive le Quebec
Psychopathe24 1 year ago
@Psychopathe24 Bon choix! Vive les voiture manuel!
HoogerDam 1 year ago
There is simply no such thing. Every car is different.
SpLeNdidV8 1 year ago
the 70 chevells have the greatest trannys of all there impossable to blow and they take off like a rocket the chevey turbo 350 trans is an auto and most chevy guys that race run a turbo 350 for the abuility to put the power to the ground
1016joecool 1 year ago
Rwhp per Rwhp the auto will be faster. The only reason a low power car like this is slower with an automatic is because the little wimp of an engine can't overcome the small increase to parasitic loss and the rwhp for the car drops.
CharlieIIpics 1 year ago
@CharlieIIpics exacly i agree 100% an auto will out do any manual as long as they are both high power engines because of the power bands in the gears a manual is usualy between 2-4000 rpm and an auto is usualy 3-6000 rpms its all about the shift kit and tourqe your putting down
1016joecool 1 year ago
the the manual is only winnng at the jump the auto is still running just as fast the only reason the manual even gets nthe jump is because he can dump his clutch in an auto you neutrall launch and your putting alot at risk try racing my auto ss nova and i think you will retract your statments about automatics run a stall converter and a good shift kit and a manual will seem like its just another car manuals are just for fun in racing most drag cars are actually manuals look at the 70 chevell
1016joecool 1 year ago
wow man nice vid. now i'm really convinced autos are slow based on 2 slow economy cars slugging it out. PS- you do know an auto can redline in any gear right? try mashing the effin pedal
highway955 2 years ago
in my country 95 percent of cars are manual
oASSAULTo 1 year ago
@oASSAULTo can you say third world?
highway955 1 year ago
@oASSAULTo
In my to. Lithuania :)
ernix911 1 year ago
b.s.
flawlesstsi 2 years ago
wow and i bet you were only goin what 30?? wow ........thats fast fuckin shoot a real video
sugadady162003 2 years ago
Your video is right, everybody knows that manual transmissions are faster than the classic automatics but the new double clunch trasmission (dsg or dct or pdk) are way faster than manual!!!!!!
MrAlpap 2 years ago
@MrAlpap and you lose out on all the feeling of having a stick shift....if i wanted to control a car with paddleshifts id go play gran turismo or something...
sgtGrif 2 years ago
from this angle, yes, you lose all the enjoyment!!!
MrAlpap 2 years ago
You simply cannot prove that manual is generally faster than automatic or vise versa for the simple fact that gear ratios vary from one car to another.
So while a manual might be faster on one type of car, it might be slower on another.
wildbloodydragon 2 years ago 12
@wildbloodydragon You can prove it generally through statistics if the gear ratios are similar which in my experience they always are. A automatic tranny will generally lose anywhere from 15-20% of crank hp going through the tranny to the wheels, while a manual usually will lose anywhere from 10-15% (USUALLY not always). For example my Mustang manual stock dynoed at about 182whp and an auto was at about 173 - 175whp. Also to be very precise manual trannys tend to way just a bit less.
wolf1010 1 year ago
@wolf1010 weight***lolllllll
wolf1010 1 year ago
@wolf1010 I doubt if the different is that big. Then again, while one car is better on manual another car is better on automatic. It's all just comes down to what car you're looking at man.
Dyno numbers vary too even between the same cars (as you prolly know) because of the condition the cars are in and whatever parts or even oil is used on them.
But it's true manuals are almost always lighter. Not by much though.
wildbloodydragon 1 year ago
@wildbloodydragon 100% agree, dynos are about as useful as mail nipples. High power dragsters and stuff are obviously going to be faster with a well built automatic but as far as most conventional cars the manuals seem to get a little boost. My old Mazda 6 stock auto was about 3 car lengths behind a manual one in a 1/4 though. But a lot of other factors play a roles as well as you said. =]
wolf1010 1 year ago
@wolf1010 For sure bro. I mean not even dragsters, just a typical muscle car with a lotta torque can be hard to handle with a manual if the driver doesn't know the car good enough. I can drive 4 cylinder manuals no problem, I driven an 08 Si and a 2010 Evo, both manual. Easy as hell. But if my Z28 was a manual...I dunno if my shifting could get the best out of it.
As long as everything works fine together.
wildbloodydragon 1 year ago
@wildbloodydragon well he was comparting same cars same conditions
cv0lv0g0 1 year ago
@wildbloodydragon manual generaly have 1 more gear or same number of gear
more gear = shorter gears = more time in the sweet rpm spot
and automatic mean torque converter and torque converter mean loss of power
atomic1234567890 1 year ago
@atomic1234567890 Sure but nowadays automatics have the same number of gears. What you're saying about the power loss is true but when you look at the real world results the fact that an automatic minimizes human error have a much more drastic improvement regardless of power loss.
wildbloodydragon 1 year ago
if people knew how to drive a manual car in north america there would be less accidents. People are really stupid when it comes to cars. You need to understand how a car works before driving, otherwise no licence. GET MY POINT? NO, then your a dumbass.
BeeFreeish 2 years ago 23
@BeeFreeish you think a manual will make up for shitty drivers. think about it dude, if you cant drive properly in an auto, then how the fuck would u stay on the road doing more work as in a stick car? if anything its the fast and furious assholes in stick cars causing a shitload of wrecks. everyone is billy badass because their little pissant 4 cyl nas a stick.aww how cute. manual is stoneage shit
highway955 1 year ago
@highway955 umm romania is not a 3rd world country
oASSAULTo 1 year ago
@highway955
i think manual is safer.
1) you know how fast youre going ...if youre going to speed you have to shift up!
2) if people had to take the driving test in a manual it would weed out a lot of bad drivers
3) you have a direct disconnect from the engine to the wheels via the clutch. no more "i thought i was stepping on the brake " accidents!
4) because youre using both hands to drive you cant use cellphones, do make up, etc
coastalpacific 1 year ago
@coastalpacific 1) are you trying to say u cant tell your speed in an auto? to speed in an auto u "shift up too" ie you press the damn pedal. 2) a bad driver is a bad driver no matter what you test on. most idiot wouldnt pass in a baby stroller. 3) no the accidents would be " i stalled out at the light when it turned green at got rear ended". 4) if you think people dont multitask in stick cars then u also believe bush healed the economy.
highway955 1 year ago
@BeeFreeish
Yes in Europe i think 90% people drive before get licenses with manual transmission. Me too I am driving from 11 years manual. If you come to exam with 10 lessons experience, it would be hard po pass exam. Sorry for bad English. I am 15 :)
ernix911 1 year ago
@BeeFreeish yesss!! i see WAYY too many people braking in the middle of turns, riding there breaks athe whole way down a hill killing them and people that think hitting your breaks as hard as you can will save your life..
hartattack940 1 year ago
@hartattack940 manuals are ALOT safer in bad situations! for example, if your drive wheels loose traction and you slide out (rwd) or wash out (fwd) you can press your clutch in to quickly regain traction.
hartattack940 1 year ago
@hartattack940 also, if you were to fall asleep while driveing a manual.. it will stall out if your not on the gas enough for the gear with the clutch engaged.. automatic will just keep coasting to your doom. and people can multi task while driveing a manual.. but its actualy a good thing because that requires ALOT more consentration than in an automatic, and you'll be paying more atention to what your doing.
hartattack940 1 year ago
@BeeFreeish How so? A new driver to manual, and even a semi-experienced driver is paying attention to not only the road, but they have to listen to the engine RPM's and clutch, and shift to the correct gear. This all makes you focus less on the road. Also you are driving one handed when shifting. With automatic, you just have to pay attention to the road. So when people say "manual is safer, because they pay attention to the road more", that is not necessarily true.
NateN34 1 year ago
@NateN34 Manual makes you focus more on driving, because you have to prepare more.
Example: you are driving up a hill in 2nd about to shift to 3rd, but you notice a car slowing in front of you. If you were to shift into 3rd you would be forced to slow down and possible not have enough power to accelerate up the hill so you should keep it in 2nd to prepare for the slowing car's next move.
With an automatic all you would have done was braked a bit. My point is manuals force you to concentrate
seanoma211 1 year ago
@BeeFreeish
Sorry but that is a load of horseshit. Doesn`t matter if a bad driver knows how to drive a manual. They still are a bad driver.
Also, bad drivers may or may not know how a car works. There can be gear heads that are far too aggressive when driving resulting in alot of accidents. Your logic is simply flawed and contains much to many variables that you didnt consider.
Allante715 1 year ago
@BeeFreeish i agree. big time xP
rahiee 1 year ago
@BeeFreeish
Get your license first. then talk ;)
Reavoltion 1 year ago
Depends on the car. My auto Mustang beats most standards.
johnnyjyng 2 years ago 2
scotty kilmer said manual is faster because they are direct drive
buhrrito 2 years ago
@cyrel257 - go beat your own mini cock you slanty eyed bastard
highway955 2 years ago
@cyrel257 - you know whats real funny. i just scoped your profile and realized that youre either from or in the phillipines. ahahaha. rofl. an asian dude gving car tips? cmon now. honestly. im done with u
highway955 2 years ago
fck u highway! ur just jealous bcuz u dnt know how 2 drive a manual
pinoyflipside 2 years ago
hahaha. you fuck tard; i;ve owned 6 stick cars sinnce 1994, lolol. talk out your ass much? i'm a serious racer dude. i dont want interrupted speed. you know that1-pause-2-pause-3-pause bullshit.
highway955 2 years ago
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pinoyflipside 2 years ago
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@highway955 you dont need to cry about it faggit
pinoyflipside 2 years ago
@cyrel257 - a class A for automatic cars? omg. now everyone reading this shit knows youre a total imbecile. youre self destructing worse than bush did. hold your own cock dweeb
highway955 2 years ago
@cyrel257- i can drive a manual car much better than you can articulate words like wa8 and s2pid. keep assuming dolt. your foolishness amuses me, lol.
highway955 2 years ago
@cyrel257 - yeah good observation moron, lol. i suppose if i criticized the color of money i dont like money too right? where do you tards get your logic?
highway955 2 years ago
@cyrel257 yeah I'm pretty sure he can't drive a stick
outoforder420 2 years ago
most of you fags are clueless as fuck. of course you can make an auto redline. get on the gas hard idiot. an auto shifting under full throttle is very firm and crisp, faster than any numb-nut can shift
highway955 2 years ago
you come off as a prick in all your comments! It seems to me that you have a hard on for automatic's mostly likely cause you can't drive a manual
outoforder420 2 years ago
@outoforder420 and you come off as a cyrel1257 fanboy. do i really need to bring out the webcam and my class A license?ahaha. looks like both you retards assumed a little too much.
highway955 2 years ago
The only thing I assumed is that you are a dick, and you have proven me correct. And what the hell does your supposed class A license have to do with any of this ?
outoforder420 2 years ago