Building wings from a kite - testflight | My Flying Dream part 13

[KompEvgeny]

not enough flow rate. I think need to start using car or a better motor-boat (for more safety + flying over the water and using energy of waves).

but good try. good luck in future

[HansumRob100]

imaging a kite, a man holding da line and pulling... probably do da same... theres anada problem i can see. but i wuna put it on mine 1st but if u wuna kno i give u a hint. wen birds push down on their wings they go up. but what happens wen u twist all of that up syd down??? well, u wud go down...my perspective on ur wing is... its duin both at the same time. so u need a way 2 cancel out 1....hmmmmm... best of luck

[MPX4132]

I don't know why I couldn't breathe when I saw the guy take off momentarily, literally...

[JesusDeSaad]

This may need some sort of pedal mechanism that you can shift to when you are airborne, both for hands and feet.

Of course that would drastically increase the weight in whole, so a larger wingspan would be needed.

[sebastianpodesta]

When you are airborne the wings don't seem to have the strength to flap as good as when you are running, they may need more power to flap while holding your weight. Also you are going to need a lot of body strength to hold your self horizontal while flying.

[drblues3]

EVERYBODY IS DREAMING ABOUT THIS. KEEP UP YOUR WORK! ONCE (NOT IF, BUT ONCE) YOU DO IT, I THINK MANY WILL FOLLOW YOUR EXAMPLE, I KNOW I WILL! YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE IN THIS DESTRUCTIVE WORLD, AND THAT IT SELF IS WORTH A LOT!

[EduBrasil2007]

DID YOU SEE HOW MANY VISUALIZATIONS IN FIVE DAYS? 128428 UAU, AMAZING. EDU

[EduBrasil2007]

HELLO, I Watch this video and I Want to take a practical suggestion. I KNOW YOU ARE VERY EXPERIENCED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. BUT SEEING THE VIDEO FOUND THAT THE ANGLE OF ATTACK WING MUST BE CORRECTED, SO NO HOLDS WITH EFFICIENCY. MAKE SURE YOU WILL GET TO WORK. I WOULD LIKE TO HELP YOU. I WILL GOT IN TOUCH. GO AHEAD AND CONGRATULATIONS FRIENDS, EDUARDO.

[CrimsonHawk10]

Way to go! I can't wait to see more!

[bjorngroen]

We got a couple of idiots trying to reinvent what leonardo da vinci already knew a couple of hundred years back that it just don't work. That's just stupid.

[rossoxii]

@bjorngroen Leonardo at the time did not have the technology available today. The flapping of the wings is assisted by motors. It's not like it is the person wearing them is using his body strength to fly. Lot's of toys use that technology, it is just a question of scale and optimization.

[gwailo27]

I think you need to change the angle of attack on your wings. This will help your flow.. Also..maybe look into taking a class or two and really learn how to use After affects so that it isn't so obvious its a fake.

[alexvanz]

Haha dat ding is gemaakt van een oude Slingshot kite!

[wordzenpix]

Ignore the naysayers. It's fascinating work you've done with great craftsmanship and impressive engineering, truly inspirational. It's sad that some lurk on YouTube for nothing more than flaming others and proving how little some humans have evolved -- and how little productive there is in their sad, crippled lives. You're a breath of fresh air and a reason to smile. Thanks so much, and I look forward to following your work.

[toshitoshi556]

I am also studying the human power flapping-of-wings airplane.

Thank you for the good structure.

[MrRico020]

Come on this are dutch the flying dutchman you know ;)

[honogram]

Well, if this is not a fake, it would be good to show another video of you strapped to the wings and flap it as quickly as you did in the video. You would be proving that the wings can flap the way that it did. It seemed like a very good first try but my questions is how did you get used to the balance of the wings so quickly ?

[ColourNCode]

The overall wing size seems simply far too small. That is barely larger than a hang glider. I would start by doubling the size, then double that, ad infinitum.

You probably aren't going get any meaningful results until the wing area covers at least 40m^2.

[MichaelFD1976]

Great job guys. Readers and naysayers check out the Deadalus Project - a human powered airplane. Human arms are not strong enough to flap wings for flight, but a simple 2.5 HP motor is 10 times stronger than a human (sustained power output), and easily 20 times stronger than human arms are. Those electric motors looked like high powered permanent magnet motors, probably 2 HP each. Sure the battery life is low though. Can't wait to see more videos!

[MichaelFD1976]

Great job guys. Check out the Deadalus Project - a human powered airplane. Human arms are not strong enough to flap wings for flight, but a simple 2.5 HP motor is 10 times stronger than a human (sustained power output), and easily 20 times stronger than human arms are. Those electric motors looked like high powered permanent magnet motors, probably 2 HP each. Sure the battery life is low though. Can't wait to see more videos!

[jcpalazzolo]

I think you may consider changing the angle of attack on your wings.. So that you do not need to bend over and can run faster. You may also consider putting some vortex generators on the leading edge of the wings.. This will help your flow.. Also..maybe look into one of those new solowheels so that you do not have to worry about running and focus more energy on your flapping... And one more thing. Have you done a weight to surface area ratio of an eagle vs your weight to your crafts surface a

[WHITEGUYSWAG]

Please make it work so I can get a pair. That hang glider comment is pretty hilarious though

[moomintaro1119]

at 0:05 i already found that it's fake :D

[volvotgb1314]

leuke manier om een oude kite te recyclen ;)

[MrIwinyoulose]

This is retarded that there is controversy on its authenticity.

[timmay301]

just get a hang glider......

[Malinion]

why does everybody just think its fake because its unusual -.-

[dndmatt]

How is this fake? He didn't even get off the ground for more than 3 seconds. If this were fake i'd expect he'd actually fly or something lol.

[EFgravity]

Just because something is cool and unbelievable doesn't mean its and internet hoax so everybody just calm the fuck down and take their word for it...

[888chilly]

this looks really cool! I can't wait for this project to "take off"

*shot*

Also. I personally think that people don't understand just how much effort these people would have had to go through IF it were a fake video, especially considering that they showed us the mechanisms in previous videos, after all.

[cyberheater]

Brilliant. I'd love to have a working version of this.

[00093043]

Supergaaf , hij was wel even in de lucht . Zie het al volledig functioneren , jammer dat hij kapot ging . succes!

[haibuihoang]

It's amazing, this is also my dream. I wish I could be with your team. Keep going guys!

[velkovelkov]

Why, and how You are running 10 seconds ( 2:10 - 2:20 ) with 90 degrees AoA of the wing ?

[jarnosmeets80]

@raleighs the cut away shot we used so we could edit two takes together. We wanted it to look smooth but guess its too smooth now, but you can see theres a transition at 1.53. The second take the wing has another piece of ducktape on it... As the first take went wrong and we had to repair the wings surface a bit.. Sometimes reality is simple.

[anarchybox1]

i know it sounds crazy a unicycle onice in flight transforms into a propeller useing only ur legs + wings

p.s. landing i have no idear arms tired

[dan110024]

I think the second time you got off the ground, you stopped flapping your arms which caused you to lose your altitude. Maybe you stopped flapping because you were thinking 'oh shit it's working'. I think next time you should keep flapping :) Great work!!!

[dan110024]

Why all the dislikes? Just because he only got a few feet off the ground, doesn't mean it's not a step in the right direction. Typical youtubers.

[avisfacticius]

Niemand snapt hoe vogels vliegen, jullie blijkbaar ook niet. Wel een leuke poging.

[MungedToastFace]

yerp im going with the fake vote..

1) even with the best animations u can still tell they are animations..

2) cutting via "turning-the-camera-away-so-th­e-guy-with-the-wings-has-enoug­h-time-to-run-in-and-out-of-th­e-shot-at-the-start-and-finish­" is ALWAYS a bad sign...

which makes me sad cos i would have much rather seen that it didn't work... and that they at least tried... rather then them trying to fake that it did work... simply to get the attention... shame on them.. may they make no more!

[svendesmet3007]

@MungedToastFace totally wrong... an if you're saying that with the best animation progs, you still can see it's an animation... then you haven't seen a proper edited movie!! btw, look at the comment of the cameraman... it's just pasted together...

[crazymike65]

Why is everybody saying this is fake? The man spent a lot of time working on these wings and even had advice from a professor. I don't see anything fake about this. This is as real as it gets, and hopefully Jarno can make it work the next time he brings them out.

[SPAKnights]

Hello, I'm quite surprised by the number of uninformed people claiming 'fake' on here. Jarno Smeets is 100% real and actively leading an effort to see many more of us take to the air much more like birds than ever before. Do your research. He is a pioneer.

[frostek]

A valiant effort!

[redpenguin85]

All I have to say is that it looks freaken awesome. too bad it didnt fly much i would have to guess that the wings have to flap faster to get some serious air. I dont understand why people are calling it fake, it look real.

[WorldOfUphoric]

Sorry trolls of youtube, you do not deserve to comment on this mans dream.. He has put a lot of effort into this and you can see it from the other videos... Every step from the design process to the implementation. You did a great job jarnosmeets80, and it is obvious by the way people say it looked fake. I will be laughing when one of them gets shot and goes to the ER and the doctors there say "That's CGI, GTFO troll I got unrealistic video games to learn from"

[Sophianerarie]

OMG!! It's always been my dream to make wings!! I hope you'll get them to work!!!

[nebulamedia]

I do visual effects for a living.

Both times that you dipped the camera were obvious cutting points to do CGI shot. The shaking immediately dulls and you apply a blur to make the transition more seamless. This was honestly a lot of fun to watch & a funny spoof of Europeans (as I am one) but I am more disappointed by news sites like Engadget taking this seriously.

The logo is a god damn pelican & in no way represents the agility or beauty of flight.

[y0schi]

Guys, all the negative likes just confirm how awesome this is and how saddened people are of not building it themselves and wanting a ready-to-buy product for most of their fat asses.

Go go go! Continue working on it. The first steps don't matter when you're in the air ;)

[fourzero40]

Don't know why you all would spend all that time to 'research' and create such thing to fake it at the end? Also why would they need to stand back? Why doesn't the camera guy follow him when he's taking flight to get a better view? I'm sure if it was a special feat of flying then you guys would want to get a show from every angle, and not just from a faraway shot. Sadly, this is faked. I don't know why you all wanted us to believe but jokes on you, you wasted a lot of time to 'fool' us. Congrats

[fourzero40]

Also, why would someone spend so much time researching birds and their wings and creating such things to create a fake video afterward? I don't see the fake. When this thing actually finally takes full flight, I'd bet you'd all be the first ones to want to take a try at it.

[fourzero40]

How the fuck is this fake? Surely with wings that big you'd be able to get little air, I don't know how that's impossible for you all.

[geforced]

Good shit bro keep trying you'll get it

[merlijnschoots]

Why would someone use CGI to show something that didn't work?!! It is definitely real, as commented by @floorpietersen, you can also see the black square on the right wing in the first minutes of the movie. Because it is ducktape beneath the wing material, It becomes more apparant after the wings being positioned in a horizontal way so that the bar beneath the fabric pushes the ducktape against the fabric!

[fenderflipper]

@merlijnschoots @1:53 is crossfade

[meyerbas]

those peeps here with big negative mouths...you should do better research. The wings are real dudes! Check the tv-item "human wings" on the channel of "omroepwest"

[johnprice0000]

Find "Human Wings - Programma Tiswat, TV West" to see the item on local tv in his studio. Only 1 black square, real wings...! Hope Jarno can explain soon!!

[johnprice0000]

I understand the scepticism but why would someone bother to 'CGI' a black square on a wing? I mean, seriously... if you go through ALL that trouble and then just stick a black square on it? That doesnt make sense to me at all. Besides, he was on local television and the wing was actually there, one black square on one side already (same as in the video on the left side).

[svendesmet3007]

lol... have to say, all the people saying it is fake are kind of wrong. This is a one shot movie... you can create lift with stuff like that... it's more or less the swing of a bird. you just won't be able to fly really high (I guess). And no, there is no editing arround 1.53, that's just the cameraman that isn't a professional cameraman (I don't mean this in a bad way).

[floorpietersen]

Guys! What's the fuzz? I was there, I filmed it! And it's just a contuinity thingy. At the last moment we decided to fix some minor damage on the wings, just to be sure it wouldn't tear at first attempt! (That would have been a pity, wouldn't it!). My bad sorry!.

[merlijnschoots]

Keep on working on your project Jarno! Galilei, Newton and Einstein struggled with the same conservative pessimistic conformistic scepsis as you now have to!!!

[tuopinionno]

Can you imagine droping a piece of shi1t on top of a bird head! That would be so awesome.

[yvesyvezz]

lol Obviously fake.

[Epixman5443]

@yvesyvezz Shut the fuck up its real look at the other 12 videos wen there making it

[measles27]

I can't stop laughing

[Kirretje]

Lol, was geabonneerd, nu zie ik het bericht via engadget...nu filmpje kijke....hahah goeie stunt

[MarksVids89]

LOL, nice cgi

[paulyogi]

Someone went wild with Adobe After Effects me thinks ...

[prowlhome]

Oh and let alone the physics of the thing.... look at the surface area of a hang glider. this is about 3 times too small.

[timbobel]

They are faking this because they launched a project on which they didn't do their back of the envelope calculations. The torque they would have needed is insane. Turned out it didnt work so they just faked that it did. Probably started the whole project because of a lack of attention. Can't blame them.

[Erikos45]

Haha jullie hebben zelfs Engadget ermee gehaald xD

[prowlhome]

Could have got away with it if it wasn't for you damn pesky kids...

Sorry guys..

Shadows all wrong.

and seems to be accelerating towards the end.

[giocanales13]

They just want to call attention, it's human nature. BTW, Fake, Fake, Fake.

[AmeanAF]

Work on your chest, run down hill to get more speed. Whatever you do, don't give up.

[jomann18]

I'm not sure why they're faking this.... 

[synth3tk]

Terribly faked.

[kreutzere]

ye going out with 2 stick and a little sheet and becomes a quite good looking bird wing in 1 sec.

Awful acting combined with awful CGI.

[milobastage]

I like how there have barely been 200 views and everyone already knows its CGI.

[Phlogistons]

Obvious CGI, seriously...

[austinbutcher]

LOL so fake then the camera moves off the guy and moves back.

[iqbalbaskara]

Same comment as justoneman's the flight is CGI I think. The handover was done while the cam points down to the ground.

[somerphil]

So why go through the whole trouble CGIing this? You could have made those wings work in that time... Lame

[URAZKIVANER]

needs much bigger flapping action for the wings. It can not create enough levitation with such a small action... But nice try. Good Balance overall :)...

[JustOneMansOpinion]

But hold on, at 1:50 the camera conveniently pans down then up to reveal that CGI graphics have taken over... surely? Just looks so fake during the "flight". Then the camera pans down again and hey presto back to the real world

[bboynormal]

amazing!!!

[smhoover85]

wat

[FeliveNdrell]

this is cg

[merlijnschoots]

This is pretty amzing stuff...hope everyone is aware that your gonna break some guiness book records here!

[crazymike65]

You actually got some pretty good air on those jumps! Life the comment before said, maybe showing this to a bird expert may help you perfect the design.

[MrDrakkus]

The problem is that flapping fixed wings tend to work against themselves. You need either more rotation on the upstroke to minimize drag, or a hinge just outside of center on each wing to create a small "peak" on the upstroke like a birds wing. For some really good advice on how to make it work, show this to an ornithologist (bird expert) and ask them if they have any ideas on improving it. I can't think of no-one else that would be more helpful.

[nickwallennz]

fantastic Jarno - First flaps and a decent hop - It will come! Nick

[mynameisveryconfused]

this looks like soo much fun =D

[Jur2225]

Wow it works, AMAZING stuff man! Big ups! Echt gigantisch tof

[MMDigoana]

am i the first :O