Voennoe Delo: Modern Medium Cargo Aviation! C-130J Hercules II - AN-70 - A-400M (English subtitles)

[granskare]

I had hoped that USAF would order the A400M as a tanker and they would be build in this country but politics forced us to order a tanker based on the old 767 airframe...brw in 1959 I did ride a early version of the C130 from Athens to France...I like this series of videos very much...thanks for them !

[BitnikGr]

@granskare The USA have some of the greatest aeronautic industries in the World. Why should you buy a foreign plane?

It is like giving ready hot money to foreign supplier, instead of supporting thousands of jobs in your own country and supporting your own economy.

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I was always saying that even if your domestic product comes second to the best, it is always preferable to build it inside the country.

[granskare]

@BitnikGr I did write that the A400M would be built in USA

[BitnikGr]

@granskare Oh ok. My mistake... Sorry.

But why do you believe that existing US built fuel tankers are not good enough?

[granskare]

@BitnikGr it's the air force that has that belief :) but they are built on the old 707 airframe

[BitnikGr]

@granskare That's why USAF procured competition for new tanker. Which companies were in that competition? I know there were 3 of them, one of which was Antonov, which lost from the very beginning... it should even start :) Which are the other two? Boeing and...?

[granskare]

@BitnikGr Airbus constructs the A400M

[MingGuoLi]

@BitnikGr Boeing with 767 and Airbus with A330.

@granskare What's wrong with the 767? It might be 30 years old, but the design is solid, good power for hot and high conditions. Range is good, average take off run, but so is A330. You aren't expecting them to choose the 787, are you?

[BOROZ28]

C-130 Is a plane that has a very delicate suspension and can't land on all surfaces VS the Russian similar equipment. That is a huge minus.....

[BitnikGr]

@BOROZ28 I don't know what do you mean by "all surfaces", but C-130 can land on dirt airstrips. Even if Russian medium size cargo planes can land in mud and grass I wouldn't say that this is a huge minus. It would be huge minus if C-130 could land only on concrete runways. But that is not the case...

[BitnikGr]

Some data for AN-70, A-400M, IL-76MD, C-130J (numbers will be divided with a "/" for each plane accordingly)

Comparison of width and height of cargo compartment ΑΝ-70 > Α-400Μ > IL-76MD > C-130J

Volume of cargo compartment in m^3: 400/360/320/127

Max payload: 47/37/47/21.8

Cruise speed: 750/720/760/620

Fuel efficiency in gr/tkm with max payload: 150/170/240/150

STOL: mode Yes/Yes/No/Yes

Price $ εκ: 60/120/60/76+

Antonov Bureau 2009

[BitnikGr]

@BitnikGr Stated performance of A-400M is inferior of performance of AN-70 and has yet to be proven in flight tests.

All data for AN-70 is already proven.

[franknbeans4761]

@BitnikGr The wings of the AN-70 were flapping almost like that of a bird at 4:00! That was cool.

Is the IL-76 considered to be in the same field as the AN-70, A-400, & C-130 series? I always thought of it as in the C-17 class, even though it has a smaller payload.

Any episodes on heavy lift aircraft?

[franknbeans4761]

@franknbeans4761 More so at 3:56 I mean.

[BitnikGr]

@franknbeans4761 Yeah, I notice that moment too :)))

IL-76 belongs to strategic air lift forces. Not to tactical ones...

/watch?v=VH-KDGRwwck - Here is a VD video about NATO cargo aviation C-5, C-17, C-141 and C-130.

Voennoe Delo has episodes about AN-30 as a reconnaissance, this one about AN-70 and one more about AN-12, which I hadn't translated yet.

[franknbeans4761]

@BitnikGr Gotcha, thanks I just watched it! Keep up the awesome work!