Stanier is one of my favorite drummers. Every single video I see of him looks like he's giving it everything he's got. If you see them live, watch Stanier's shirt change colors throughout the show.
You can see it right when Stanier starts headbanging. That is the look of a man who has blacked out every sound, and is just in the zone. Dude kills those drums like it's nothing.
...also, what about the big arguement about what constitutes music as being psychedelic? Repetition, variation, etc...Just food for thought...and music, being ethereal, is already phychedelic...some more intentionally so, I guess. With that said, I would be surprised if this isn't one of those efforts. It is however a given that it's informed by so-called "interior music," as all music (among other things) roots in...
I'm 28 and have spent a considerable amount of time surfing the waves all across the music spectrum, and Mirrored caught me SO off-guard, it's not even funny. I was like, "WTF?! How could this be?...how can each song rise to this level of creativity, taste, technicality, innovation, and uniqueness and originality in general and within the album while still maintaning the Battles sound? Is it possible that they knew it would be like this?...that this balance was somehow intended?"
It's awesome how everyone in the band uses tons of effects and a few instruments, except for John in the drums, and he is the one that stands out from the rest.
As great as John Stanier is, the best things he does are always subtle, yet genius. Like from 3:27 - 3:33, that is a little fill that no other drummer would do. It's basically a little rhythm 16th note fill that someone would hit on a guitar with a wah-wah pedal, but he does it effortlessly in the midst of a booming, extended crescendo. That is why he's a genius. Right there.
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why are all new bands putting their cymbal at that height? it seems they have to do stupid stuff in order to catch attention...this is not even a song. c-ya!
@agusagus Poner el cymbal tan alto es como se dice en español "una terapia" es decir, calculas mejor los tiempos cuando vas por el platillo, es algo loco pero es como si acercaras tu cama a tu puerta quiza tu vida cambiaria, o viceversa, no se mucho ingles pero bueno quien lo pueda entender sabrá de que hablo.
You have to listen past the 3 min mark. The bass is lost on this recording so it loses it's impact A LOT. Check the album version before saying anything rash.
Did you just call his cymbal commercial? To be honest most people I know like Battles from the music, without knowing he had a high cymbal. It's such a minor detail, its not like people see the high cymbal and go "wow, thats "random", I choose to like this music now".
@YogritMUN it's actually cause he did it once as a joke, and just stuck with it. he doesnt mind cause he doesnt use it much. thats what he said in an interview/
@YogritMUN No, that's not the real reason for it being that high. But you're right about him wanting to put meaning back in the crash and to not overuse it.
Pele, Toe, Don Cab, This town needs guns, meet me in st. louis, maps and atlases, Giraffes? Giraffes! to name but a few math rock bands. Although if you like math rock bands such as mogwai, explosions in the sky, or godspeed you! Black emperor, or noise-rock bands such as Shellac, Slint, Kong (youtube "blood of a dove"), or rapeman :) I got into those different types of bands at the same time and tome they have a similar level of awesome. That's why i'm throwing them in there =]
do you know "foals"? they have much more pop appeal...but especially this song here reminds me of their stuff. if you haven't heard of em, you should check them out!
Battles is really unique. They've created a style of their own. Other good math rock stuff includes Auto! Automatic!, 65daysofstatic, and Lite. I'd also check out good post rock, like Mogwai, Tortise, Caspian, Sigur Ros, and Russian Circles. Mars Volta and Radiohead are worth checking out, too.
I know another math rock band thats not exactly like Battles.. much.. but people tend to like them if the love Battles! Check out Hella! They being soo good.
Dude, the drummer from helmet, the amazing guitar guy from Don Caballero, and these other two awesome musicians...what the fuck more could you want!? This music is awesome!!!
john stanier is an insane drummer! battles is such a great band that all members can really hold their own but stanier outshines all of them just by that little bit. they won't be that great without him.
DON'T READ THIS! in 1945 a man was wallking down the streets at 4:34am no one was arround. it was pitch black. sudenly! a man came running down and killed him by stabbing him. the man then took hime somwere and no one evere new were the man took him.
in 2000 a girl found him in a bath tub in a swamp. unless you post this comment to 10 othere videos. the dead man will hunt you for 5 years. do it before 1 hour. hurry
John set the cymbal up that way joking around, but then decidid to keep it that way b/c of how ridiculous it looks and, "now" he said "I have to keep it or people will freak out."
I honestly Don't think this drummer is getting ENOUGH credit, I would love to see any drummer match his time and intensity, its not gunna happen, especialy considering the nonsense that he has to drum to in Battles. If you see them live you'll second every word ive said.
dude i don't give a shit about hype. all i know is that when he comes in, in the beginning of the song he is clean as fuck. and about his crash symbol, who cares, you can set up your kit anyway you fucking want, its your kit.
If you want to hear better examples of his drumming you should listen to Tomahawk. It's one of Mike Patton's side-projects and is more of a traditional rock band when compared to these guys.
I was perusing the other comments concerning John Stanier's drumming, and I have to say that the criticism is irrelevant. Battles plays technology-driven music, and as such, the feel is more mechanistic. This has always been Stanier's strength--listen to Helmet for a past reference. He tends to be very robotic as a drummer, but this style works with the material in both bands. There's only one Steve Gadd after all.....
Seriously, I gotta comment again after reading all the posts saying how good the drummer is! Are you guys watching the same video as me? This guy is mediocre at best. I can think of 3 drummers I personally know right off the top of my head that blow this dude out of the water, and those are just ones that live around me! I don't think he's bad, just not up to par with the rest of the band. Especially on the creative side. He's drumming is very stiff and doesn't groove at all.
Yeah, it works pretty good. They're still a good band. I like mirrored a lot. Its just frustrating as a drummer when you see a bunch of hype over a player who you know isn't that special. I admit that its partly jealousy, but I think it's justified considering there's allot of people working way harder than John Stainer who don't get any cred.
@justin2535 Working way harder than Stanier? mmmm No, he is constantly playing in new bands and making music. He was also called one of the best drummers by none other than Dom from Muse, if you are interested in music. He never fucks up live, and he plays the simplest, but still mathy, stuff. Stanier, that is. Also, working harder from a physical aspect: listen to Race:In and Race:Out, those songs are 5+ minutes non-stop faster than average beats.
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They seriously need a good drummer. This is the only thing taking away from these dudes. He's so stiff, he needs to stretch or something. His playing is way on top of the beat, like a robot or something never in the pocket.
He is "way on top of the beat" but "never in the pocket"? Those both mean the same thing. Playing in the pocket is playing on top of the beat, not in front or behind.
The drummer is playing something completely appropriate for the song. That's what's important. Not his chops, not who you know that can "blow him out of the water", but what he plays in relation to the song.
No, they are not the same thing. On top of the beat means that he is forcing it, without feeling the groove naturally. He's got a very robotic feel. Or lack of feel rather. Quite simply, he's too stiff. I think that if you just listened and watched him play, without being biased because your a fan, you would have to agree. I have all the battles EPs, and the mirrored, as well as most of the helmet stuff. His playing worked much better in helmet, since the nature of the music was stiff and riffy
So does the cover of the band's album. There's a video on their myspace page where the band discusses their history and not wanting to be pigeon-holed as one of those bands with a tree on the cover. I think if he were playing more loose, the music would suffer, or at least stray from their industrial imagery that they are trying to create. The stiff, on top of the beat drumming suits the music more appropriately in my opinion. Agree to disagree.
for all of you that don't get it, they give you a little introductory lesson from 3:47 to 4:02...that ought to be enticing enough to get you to pay attention to the rest and learn something...
I fully retract that statement i apologise. Saw these guys bout two months ago at the oxegen festival in ireland. They blew my tiny mind, i had never heard them before
Best Band From New York Fucking City. Screw Vampire Weekend!, this is the real thing...I saw them both for free at Summerstage (Central Park) on diferente dates, and Battles (last week) were way better..
within the first 30 seconds John stanier blows 90 some percent of drummers out the water. after a minute and a half, ain't too many of the rest of em around. seriously, a metronome with a heart
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MADFACTdub 5 days ago
@3:54 blood rushing everywhere
susej89 1 month ago
so fucking grovy..
fredbsb 2 months ago
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how is some of this shit even possible? playing the synth and the guitar at the same time? fuck me...
yournotalwaysright 3 months ago
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yournotalwaysright 3 months ago
Stanier is one of my favorite drummers. Every single video I see of him looks like he's giving it everything he's got. If you see them live, watch Stanier's shirt change colors throughout the show.
lblitzer 4 months ago
@SlimBoyArcadeFire no he hits it, you can see him hitting it. hes not chuck norris
academicape 4 months ago
the top two comments both got his name wrong
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joemunkey30 4 months ago 6
Drops a stick and still doesn't miss a beat1
theprokofiev 5 months ago
You can see it right when Stanier starts headbanging. That is the look of a man who has blacked out every sound, and is just in the zone. Dude kills those drums like it's nothing.
maniakkid25 6 months ago
Prog rock/music
thoomoo 6 months ago
Isn't Tyonda out of the band now?
MajoraMasks66 6 months ago
@MajoraMasks66 Yes, but I'm guessing you know that by now
wombat989 5 months ago
DRUMMER IS A MADMAN!!!
ZwienerZ 6 months ago
Stanier is perfect.
priser24 6 months ago
...also, what about the big arguement about what constitutes music as being psychedelic? Repetition, variation, etc...Just food for thought...and music, being ethereal, is already phychedelic...some more intentionally so, I guess. With that said, I would be surprised if this isn't one of those efforts. It is however a given that it's informed by so-called "interior music," as all music (among other things) roots in...
SuperDefaultname 8 months ago
I'm 28 and have spent a considerable amount of time surfing the waves all across the music spectrum, and Mirrored caught me SO off-guard, it's not even funny. I was like, "WTF?! How could this be?...how can each song rise to this level of creativity, taste, technicality, innovation, and uniqueness and originality in general and within the album while still maintaning the Battles sound? Is it possible that they knew it would be like this?...that this balance was somehow intended?"
SuperDefaultname 8 months ago
@SuperDefaultname i agree
UltimateVenom 7 months ago
Is it just me or are they really playing it faster than the one on the record?
kreftacean 8 months ago
Just bought tickets to see them in Austin! I just discovered this band about a month ago. WOW! Amazing stuff.
ZwienerZ 8 months ago
Tune
dysfunction1 9 months ago
beat the shit out of that fuckin charleston
strangehands89 9 months ago
Man it's so overwhelming, I don't need to smoke weed to feel high on this but weed just makes it that much better
jiffinbigles 9 months ago
It's awesome how everyone in the band uses tons of effects and a few instruments, except for John in the drums, and he is the one that stands out from the rest.
jvelazqueztraut 9 months ago 3
that drummer is a beast! hope they come to the UK!
Demonsword92 10 months ago
John Stanier = dead nuts PERFECT time.
AmericanBarber82 10 months ago 2
Look closely to 5:11 FUCKING DRUMSTICK CHANGE!
TheSpallanzani 10 months ago 2
GLOSS DROP GLOSS DROP!!!!
TheSpallanzani 10 months ago
Stanier has some wild stamina!
EthanDuPre 11 months ago
As great as John Stanier is, the best things he does are always subtle, yet genius. Like from 3:27 - 3:33, that is a little fill that no other drummer would do. It's basically a little rhythm 16th note fill that someone would hit on a guitar with a wah-wah pedal, but he does it effortlessly in the midst of a booming, extended crescendo. That is why he's a genius. Right there.
WillBraden 1 year ago 2
This band rules,but the singer has gone or something...wtf!!
Pravindaswani74 1 year ago
@Pravindaswani74 He's focusing on his selftitled solo career Tyondai Braxton
DaFTdIVAD 1 year ago
My life will not be complete until I see them live at least once....
Neurotarkus 1 year ago 3
of all the fucking songs that exist, how often do you hear such a decrescendo to the end of the song? 1 in a million. Pure classy avant-garde
YornMan 1 year ago 3
This is such awesome music, the guitar really reminds me of Cedric's from the Mars Volta...
ArcticYoshi 1 year ago
@ArcticYoshi ahahahah more omar than cedric, i think..
mariorossipuzza 1 year ago
@mariorossipuzza yes, definitely more omar hahaha they also kind of look similar...
nofx84 1 year ago
@ArcticYoshi cedric is the singer in mars volta. omar is the guitarist
binky69 1 year ago
Stanier rules!
longhorn2615 1 year ago
Experimental. Reminds me of The Can. Good to see that spirit present in this band.
DoyafEELmee 1 year ago
I wish my cymbal went as high as Stainer's.
I definitely have cymbal envy.
Bermatute 1 year ago
Stainer needs to breed so there can be more Stainers in the world.
Bermatute 1 year ago 4
John Stainer is the Chuck Norris of drumming
TheSpallanzani 1 year ago 4
It's a toss-up between Battles and Radiohead for my title of "the new Pink Floyd".
Great stuff.
ANONtkakes 1 year ago
His cymbal is so high because he's John Stainer and he can do the fuck he wants!
adamphogwood 1 year ago 102
@adamphogwood
In an interview he said the stand got stuck. lmao
thecrikster 1 year ago
@adamphogwood God damn right.
snkyninja 6 months ago
why is his crash so high!
distrait90 1 year ago
great!!
isisknot24 1 year ago
please listen Yo i Yo
yeimx 1 year ago
soooo good
Lawlbunnies 1 year ago
haha that *agusagus* guy would have all guns and roses videos on his channel...
people need to respect modern music. its fantastic how much music is able to change over the years.
respect to guns and roses though i think they used a delay pedal in welcome to the jungle. and their live and let die cover was a pretty fresh tune.
iTheEnvyVideos 1 year ago
White people are crazy.
chefforrest 1 year ago
@chefforrest best believe that
JAYNEWXN2 1 year ago
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why are all new bands putting their cymbal at that height? it seems they have to do stupid stuff in order to catch attention...this is not even a song. c-ya!
agusagus 1 year ago
@agusagus they're not new....
Hartman442 1 year ago
@agusagus "this is not even a song"... you suck
Pulpski 1 year ago
@agusagus Poner el cymbal tan alto es como se dice en español "una terapia" es decir, calculas mejor los tiempos cuando vas por el platillo, es algo loco pero es como si acercaras tu cama a tu puerta quiza tu vida cambiaria, o viceversa, no se mucho ingles pero bueno quien lo pueda entender sabrá de que hablo.
shuckuma 1 year ago
@agusagus I've never seen a band with their cymbal like that... It's a joke with the drummer of Don Caballero.
Colenelly 1 year ago
@agusagus
You have to listen past the 3 min mark. The bass is lost on this recording so it loses it's impact A LOT. Check the album version before saying anything rash.
thecrikster 1 year ago
commercial and unnessasary high cymbal just making life difficult in order to be ,as students say, 'random'
rosshasashoe 1 year ago
Did you just call his cymbal commercial? To be honest most people I know like Battles from the music, without knowing he had a high cymbal. It's such a minor detail, its not like people see the high cymbal and go "wow, thats "random", I choose to like this music now".
Robomansk8 1 year ago
@rosshasashoe He has it up high so it forces him not to overuse it. He wants to put meaning back in the "crash".
YogritMUN 1 year ago
@YogritMUN it's actually cause he did it once as a joke, and just stuck with it. he doesnt mind cause he doesnt use it much. thats what he said in an interview/
Ichvyenichalster 1 year ago
@Ichvyenichalster Haha, oh. Heard otherwise from a friend.
YogritMUN 1 year ago
@YogritMUN he has it up that high so that when mic'd there is not a lot of residual feedback or vibrations. A lot of drummers do that
johnisredhot 1 year ago
@johnisredhot Alright so that's three different reasons...
YogritMUN 1 year ago
@johnisredhot John Stainer did that to fuck around.. Then he just left i like that!
MrShakejunt559 1 year ago
@johnisredhot You're wrong sir.
DaFTdIVAD 1 year ago
@YogritMUN No, that's not the real reason for it being that high. But you're right about him wanting to put meaning back in the crash and to not overuse it.
DaFTdIVAD 1 year ago
commercial and unnessasary high cymbal just making life difficult in order to be ,as students say, 'random'
rosshasashoe 1 year ago
You're stepping all over her, dude.
Scorch0 1 year ago
vanguardia¡ya
tropcis 2 years ago
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you know, without the retarded vocals, this would actually be pretty FUCKIN' good.
ChadTheCunt 2 years ago
@ChadTheCunt
It's avant-garde. It isn't necessarily supposed to make sense.
ANONtkakes 2 years ago
STOP EVERYONE. stop comparing to foals. just stop now.
niloc141414 2 years ago
@niloc141414 Sorry, but they are kinda reminiscent. their sounds (at least on this song by battles) are similar. so blehhhh :P
ChadTheCunt 2 years ago
DRuMMER IS GOD !!
neomix21 2 years ago 2
john stainer the drummer is like a machine. he is so good!
FLOYDFAN1975 2 years ago 3
All People Seem To Need Data Processing
neomix21 2 years ago
John. Stanier. I mean...Damn!
nycic 2 years ago
That ruled! Thanks!
ramaquar 2 years ago
there music is un balanced, weird, and a bit weird. but I luve it
xlonexassassinx95847 2 years ago
these are real musicians!
MrEzkaEzka 2 years ago 3
soo sweet. I cant over how awesome the part where the main drum beat kicks in in the intro is!!!
liveforever1227 2 years ago
Their drummer is a obviously a robot. This video confirms it.
DrewLaserdeath 2 years ago 3
HELL YEAH!
MrEzkaEzka 2 years ago
Does anyone know any other math rock bands like battles? I've been getting into it lately but finding this music is hard. =/
NicktheGreat3 2 years ago
Don Caballero, which you've probably been introduced to already...I'm also a big fan of Sleeping People's 'Growing' album.
troymcgreggor 2 years ago
Pele, Toe, Don Cab, This town needs guns, meet me in st. louis, maps and atlases, Giraffes? Giraffes! to name but a few math rock bands. Although if you like math rock bands such as mogwai, explosions in the sky, or godspeed you! Black emperor, or noise-rock bands such as Shellac, Slint, Kong (youtube "blood of a dove"), or rapeman :) I got into those different types of bands at the same time and tome they have a similar level of awesome. That's why i'm throwing them in there =]
PeepingTomWaits 2 years ago
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*...if you like math rock then you might to check out some post-rock bands such as mogwai...
PeepingTomWaits 2 years ago
Mogwai, Explosions, and GS!BE aren't math rook. They're post rock.
silentsouless 2 years ago 3
lynx
aahmm 2 years ago
do you know "foals"? they have much more pop appeal...but especially this song here reminds me of their stuff. if you haven't heard of em, you should check them out!
BugEyes85 2 years ago
Battles is really unique. They've created a style of their own. Other good math rock stuff includes Auto! Automatic!, 65daysofstatic, and Lite. I'd also check out good post rock, like Mogwai, Tortise, Caspian, Sigur Ros, and Russian Circles. Mars Volta and Radiohead are worth checking out, too.
silentsouless 2 years ago
I know another math rock band thats not exactly like Battles.. much.. but people tend to like them if the love Battles! Check out Hella! They being soo good.
Kelavmeister 2 years ago 2
thanks man they are awesome!!
johnsfan1 2 years ago
Oh no problem, pally!
Kelavmeister 2 years ago
try toe - velvet blac or lite - ghost dance, two amazing japanese bands. im sure they will blow your mind.
nkewl 2 years ago
@NicktheGreat3 DON CAB.
Colenelly 1 year ago
Dude, the drummer from helmet, the amazing guitar guy from Don Caballero, and these other two awesome musicians...what the fuck more could you want!? This music is awesome!!!
jiminberkeley 2 years ago
that drummer is awesome
BoldOriginalFlavor 2 years ago 34
@BoldOriginalFlavor that band is awsome
mynmyself 1 year ago
3:10 always gives me chills
TheCHUD 2 years ago
that is pretty cool
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TheCHUD 2 years ago
robotic perfect battles its great, your sound is orgasmic and suffer... i remember good times of Mirrored album.
robertnomore 2 years ago
Seekly cool!
leticiasoma 2 years ago
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mathrock...
saksilangit 2 years ago
Can't wait for another Battles album
TheSludgefactory 2 years ago 7
Saw 'm here in Bangkok last month. Blew my mind away.
cor916 2 years ago 2
fantastic
chutamuto 2 years ago 2
This video would've been so awesome if that idiot's head hadn't been in the way the whole time. I also think I'm in love with John Stainer.
jamescfc1 2 years ago 3
So tight...amazing drummer, yes.
nonkonform 2 years ago 3
saw them live in singapore. eargasmic
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kubamma 3 years ago
yea hes such an amazing fuckin drummer.. god damn
eriksmith33 3 years ago 2
cant get over the simple fill at 4.14.
simple but amazing.
Something3k 3 years ago
I know! hits all the notes, but doesn't overplay the bass rhythm of the turn....just perfect!!
WillBraden 3 years ago 2
"He sells ecstasy"
lol
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kjort 3 years ago 2
john stanier is an insane drummer! battles is such a great band that all members can really hold their own but stanier outshines all of them just by that little bit. they won't be that great without him.
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DON'T READ THIS! in 1945 a man was wallking down the streets at 4:34am no one was arround. it was pitch black. sudenly! a man came running down and killed him by stabbing him. the man then took hime somwere and no one evere new were the man took him.
in 2000 a girl found him in a bath tub in a swamp. unless you post this comment to 10 othere videos. the dead man will hunt you for 5 years. do it before 1 hour. hurry
pottman0147 3 years ago
John ruled in Helmet. Just a powerhouse drummer. Battles ftw.
HomebrewMelvin 3 years ago
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Helmet --> Battles
Kinda ironic
RyuuHatake 3 years ago
thats a kool thing the drummer does with the cymbal at 1:21
waallpaper 3 years ago
I wouldnt say Many... Maybe some, And they would match it in other aspects..
Mrsiggys123 3 years ago
John set the cymbal up that way joking around, but then decidid to keep it that way b/c of how ridiculous it looks and, "now" he said "I have to keep it or people will freak out."
jiggs1974 3 years ago
john stanier's one solid drummer. his drumming is crazy even though it looks simple...he just makes it look so easy. asides from that this group PWNS
Vawklin 3 years ago
"You're steppin' all over me duude!"
jonh2o 3 years ago 2
I honestly Don't think this drummer is getting ENOUGH credit, I would love to see any drummer match his time and intensity, its not gunna happen, especialy considering the nonsense that he has to drum to in Battles. If you see them live you'll second every word ive said.
Mrsiggys123 3 years ago
Mrsiggys....he's good, but don't over-praise him, there are many who match his ability in spades
screwball82 3 years ago
dude i don't give a shit about hype. all i know is that when he comes in, in the beginning of the song he is clean as fuck. and about his crash symbol, who cares, you can set up your kit anyway you fucking want, its your kit.
Shatonmedeek 3 years ago
dear justin2535, take it deep
your friend, Jesus
cowflying 3 years ago
evvaiiiiiiiiiiii.......
rixdrum 3 years ago
im sorry but that crash cymbal is just ridiculous lmao
casualties92 3 years ago
there's a reason behind it though
johnthebigtree 3 years ago 2
id like to hear it
casualties92 3 years ago
If you want to hear better examples of his drumming you should listen to Tomahawk. It's one of Mike Patton's side-projects and is more of a traditional rock band when compared to these guys.
project35 3 years ago
Addendum to my previous commento-- If you want to hear technology-driven music with an incredible groove and feel, check out JoJo Mayer with Nerve.
jeyesacks 3 years ago
I was perusing the other comments concerning John Stanier's drumming, and I have to say that the criticism is irrelevant. Battles plays technology-driven music, and as such, the feel is more mechanistic. This has always been Stanier's strength--listen to Helmet for a past reference. He tends to be very robotic as a drummer, but this style works with the material in both bands. There's only one Steve Gadd after all.....
jeyesacks 3 years ago
lol did he just say the drums dont groove?
bnoon 3 years ago
Seriously, I gotta comment again after reading all the posts saying how good the drummer is! Are you guys watching the same video as me? This guy is mediocre at best. I can think of 3 drummers I personally know right off the top of my head that blow this dude out of the water, and those are just ones that live around me! I don't think he's bad, just not up to par with the rest of the band. Especially on the creative side. He's drumming is very stiff and doesn't groove at all.
justin2535 3 years ago
but it works with the music no matter what your opinion of his skill?eh?eh?cmonnnn!
charlieonehorse 3 years ago
Yeah, it works pretty good. They're still a good band. I like mirrored a lot. Its just frustrating as a drummer when you see a bunch of hype over a player who you know isn't that special. I admit that its partly jealousy, but I think it's justified considering there's allot of people working way harder than John Stainer who don't get any cred.
justin2535 3 years ago
@justin2535 Working way harder than Stanier? mmmm No, he is constantly playing in new bands and making music. He was also called one of the best drummers by none other than Dom from Muse, if you are interested in music. He never fucks up live, and he plays the simplest, but still mathy, stuff. Stanier, that is. Also, working harder from a physical aspect: listen to Race:In and Race:Out, those songs are 5+ minutes non-stop faster than average beats.
Colenelly 1 year ago
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They seriously need a good drummer. This is the only thing taking away from these dudes. He's so stiff, he needs to stretch or something. His playing is way on top of the beat, like a robot or something never in the pocket.
justin2535 3 years ago
He is "way on top of the beat" but "never in the pocket"? Those both mean the same thing. Playing in the pocket is playing on top of the beat, not in front or behind.
The drummer is playing something completely appropriate for the song. That's what's important. Not his chops, not who you know that can "blow him out of the water", but what he plays in relation to the song.
bcbwilla 3 years ago
No, they are not the same thing. On top of the beat means that he is forcing it, without feeling the groove naturally. He's got a very robotic feel. Or lack of feel rather. Quite simply, he's too stiff. I think that if you just listened and watched him play, without being biased because your a fan, you would have to agree. I have all the battles EPs, and the mirrored, as well as most of the helmet stuff. His playing worked much better in helmet, since the nature of the music was stiff and riffy
justin2535 3 years ago
"he's got a very robotic feel."
So does the cover of the band's album. There's a video on their myspace page where the band discusses their history and not wanting to be pigeon-holed as one of those bands with a tree on the cover. I think if he were playing more loose, the music would suffer, or at least stray from their industrial imagery that they are trying to create. The stiff, on top of the beat drumming suits the music more appropriately in my opinion. Agree to disagree.
Beatboxx 2 years ago 2
for all of you that don't get it, they give you a little introductory lesson from 3:47 to 4:02...that ought to be enticing enough to get you to pay attention to the rest and learn something...
WillBraden 3 years ago
What a pretentious thing to say
timfromabove1979 3 years ago
I fully retract that statement i apologise. Saw these guys bout two months ago at the oxegen festival in ireland. They blew my tiny mind, i had never heard them before
timfromabove1979 3 years ago
if you love music, then this band will give you hope for music. if they don't give you hope for music, then you don't love music.
WillBraden 3 years ago
erm I love them but that's a really pretentious statement. I really hope your like 13/14 or there is no hope for you...
bongobobaln 3 years ago
I'm only 5 actually, so I think my vocabulary is pretty impressive...
WillBraden 3 years ago
sick
gotletgo 3 years ago
Best Band From New York Fucking City. Screw Vampire Weekend!, this is the real thing...I saw them both for free at Summerstage (Central Park) on diferente dates, and Battles (last week) were way better..
vivelavidarocka 3 years ago 3
anyone esle catch the lady saying some guy is selling e lol :30
alexmatheson77 3 years ago 2
wat a goofy drummer! i like this guys
mmmpie 3 years ago
within the first 30 seconds John stanier blows 90 some percent of drummers out the water. after a minute and a half, ain't too many of the rest of em around. seriously, a metronome with a heart
jxw137 3 years ago 5
fucking amen.
WillBraden 3 years ago
he's Al Jackson Jr. for our generation. innovation + a metronome...unbelievable...
WillBraden 3 years ago
I'm so so upset that I'll miss them at Bumbershoot
alsunne 3 years ago
For a split second I forgot why John Stanier is my favorite drummer ever, and then I saw this.
priser24 3 years ago 3
i love them :D
aNNeTTsKiTTiN 3 years ago 2
Holy crap.. watch the drummer break a stick at 5:20 and replace it without missing a beat.
rambeaux2 3 years ago 13
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he's just amazing...
guitarzpurenoise 3 years ago 8
John proves again why he's one of my favorites.
BBBBbjhdfgkjds 3 years ago 3
the drumming is impossibly good, Sounds IDENTICAL to the album version, jesus christ.
TheModernAge324 3 years ago 4
Holy shit! John Stanier!
gthomasfilms 3 years ago 3
the drummer is a precision machine.
indisaac1 3 years ago 7
lol yeah,..good way to put it haha