In relation to the prophet Muhammad’s (pbuh) marriage to Aiesha then there are three opinions on the matter. 1.) Through mathematics of subtracting the date in which one of her siblings passed away we can conclude that Aiesah was actually 17 when she got married. 2.) We simply don’t know the age and remain silent about it. 3.) Is that she was 9 years old and we have no problem with this opinion if that is the case as I’ll explain below.
Part 1: People need to bare in mind that there is something called “Evolution of Man.” This is in all aspects of life including “AGE”. So for example when we look into the Bible we see that many of the prophets lived to be hundreds of years old. (e.g. Noah was 950 years). So if this were the case then we can conclude that over the years man has seen an evolutionary shift of our age. Also we can conclude that if there was a shift in age there must have been a shift in Maturity as well.
Part 2: We can conclude that the aging process of a person who is 950 years old will be a lot different than a person who lives to be 95 years old. In the cells humans there is something called a telomere which is responsible for our aging. As we grow our cells divide and each time this happens this telomere is shortened. Scientists say that this is the only reason why we age, and that if they could stop the telomere from shortening then say there is no reason why we couldn’t live much longer.
Part 3: The next issue one needs to realize is that man’s main purposes in life is to procreate and have children. The Encyclopedia Britannica says that at the time of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) the average lifespan was from 30 to 35 years of age. Now if a woman is expected to live and raise her children to the age of maturity then at that time she would have to be at least 15 years old just to raise one child (i.e. 15 + 15 = 30).
Part 4: If today people’s average lifespan was 60 and we were to divide the ageing and maturing process into 4 categories. (e.g. 15 years adolescence 15 Young Adult, 15 Middle Age, and 15 senior) then logically if the lifespan were shortened to half that number we can conclude that the effect would be felt in each of these categories. (e.g. 7.5 years adolescence etc.)
Part 5: Finally the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself was kept young by God so that he could handle all the responsibilities of prophet hood. So even though he was 50 in age he appeared to be physically in his mid-twenties. And if your willing to take from our books and believe the age of Aiesha the you should also believe this point taken from the same book about his age. So really Aiesah was physically was more in likely around 17 and the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was physically around 25 to 30.
see the accounts of one person. mark luke john ect . .
then see the same accounts of someone else of the same account and youll find there would be many insetsy ini.. for example one person would say he said this.. anoyther would say compltry something else..
one person would say he said nothign when he was on the cross and die that way. another wouls say he said my father ect .. also go on my page and youll see many listed in the infos
@extremelypolite really i mean really The All Mighhty and All Powerful God was interested in muhammads' sex Life that he made him a bukk in bed??? or was muhammad simply a Nympho u even slept with his slave had husbands killed and then hours later slept with their wives andf that was all part of Gods' plan for muhammad???
Ignorant people like you are so many nowadays!Who are you to judge Islam?U R Nothing!
You are one of those brainless idiots who has been brainwashed by prejudice, racist priests like the latest stupid priest who called for a burn the Quran day!
We are talking about a revelation and so many evidences proven by great scientist all over the world.
Watch these two videos and you will see what those great Western people have to say about Islam?
@extremelypolite who cares what the guy that said burn the Qur'an day, if he is a priest he is not a Catholic Priest!!..u call me brainless?? hahahahaahhaha ur the One following a guy u cant even spell his own name, slept with a 9 year old, tell me any other Peopjet that has killed more people then muhammad?
o yes you can give him title of pedophilia without any problem first he lusted for virgins ,second he lusted for crawling baby ,and third he slept with 9 yr old girl if we look today in Muslim world what psychological effect it has on the young girls ,we can see that even then they knew that is wrong to sleep with children,watch the videos of such girls on YouTube they want to kill them selves their fathers marry them with their uncles,other family members its not just pedophilia but incest too.
PLEASE. A 9 YEAR OLD GIRL IS NOT PHYSICALLY NOR PSYCHOLOGICALLY READY FOR SEX OR MARRIAGE, THAT IS NOW OR 1400 YEARS AGO, EVERYWHERE, IN AFRICA, IN CHINA OR IN THE ANDES. SO DON'T SAY THAT HAVING SEX WITH A 9 YEAR OLD IS A CULTURAL THING, ETC. ADMIT IT, YOUR PROPHET WAS NOTHING BUT A PEDOPHILE. AICHA HERSELF REPEATS IT IN BUKHARI AND MUSLIM, THAT SHE WAS 6 WHEN HE MARRIED HER AND 9 WHEN THEY CONSUMMATED THE MARRIAGE AND SHE ADDS THAT SHE BROUGHT HER TOYS. WHO DO YOU WANT TO FOOL?
but the thing is ther are over 1billion muslims and you never hear of child marrieges to a old man , but you do hear of child abuses in the western culture . and i for one would not want a western pedophile to be associated with islam .
Ashia was given as a bride and that was a normal custom at that time . giving away daughters for marriege in 6th century and todays practice of pedophilia is totaly different thing .
the better prophrt for today will be jackob sir and not jessus with all my respect for both of "muhammed" and"jesus" but what u trying to do is to attack muhammed and u doing it the wrong way"peace"
This is flawed, the Prophet, nor the Quran dont mention a particular age that it is acceptable to get married, but it only permits men and women, that are physiologically and psychologically fit to get married regardless of age. In 7th century arabia, life expectancies were around 30 so they had no option but to get married after reaching puberty provided they were also mentally fit to do so, and people matured much earlier due to the adult responsibilities they faces at an early age.
@mrahman1992 I accept that childhood was very short in 7th century Arabia. But no 9 year old would be able to have an erect penis inserted inside her. The Hadiths state that Ayesha used to wash semen stains off the clothing of Mohammed. He used to masturate by "thighing" her. Also a limited diet of dates, goat and sheep cheese would delay puberty. Nowdays many young girls have their first period at 11 due to an overabundance of meat and additives in processed food.
Prophet Would not Marry an Underage girl BCOZ The issue of marriage in( Quran" 2:235, 2:231 ) is all defined around the meaning of the "word Al Nisa النساء. it's exclusively refer to "Female above age of puberty حلم &show maturity رشد .In Quran Prophet’s wives always R referred to as Nisa
Messenger would NOT act or legislate things that has NO signature LET ALONE CONTRADICT the Quran [69:44-50].
If U want to know about Child Rapist READ bible book of NUMS 31:17
NOW Knowing the FACT that For a (Halal) / Koshr marriage in Islam the Husband and wife according to Quran must REACH the state of puberty حلم and show Maturity word (Rushd رشد)
The Question is..
WHAT is your ideal AGE standard or criteria for marriage. .in SECULAR WORLD.... bearing in mind that the following three secular countries [ china uk and Italy ] have Different legal marital age which standard should be followed ? ......and why?
@attozes To prove that you are not a GENTILE DOG christian Facist or a goy Jew/ goy Jo. I would like to U to "openly "condem LORD JEALUSES of the bible Standards where he ordered the RAPING of little girls Numbers 31:18.. and the extermination of living things from men women children to living plants and animals DEUT 20:16-18.
The standards of the dog of the bible Adolf Yhwh or LORD Jealous Make Hitler looks timid
@attozes first of all, the definition of pedophilia is not based on an opinion (why are you asking me?), but on criteria (psychatric ICD 10) that is based on common sense to our biological physiology and psychology and of course our rationality,
There is a website called wikipedia and many other internet sites you can answer this question.
But before you research this, what would you call someone that has sex with a 9 year old? if you are a muslim you would say "the perfect human being"
@attozes haha i thought you were a muslim, i was sure. I just dont understand why the guy in the video, although he makes great points, suddenly says muhammed was no way a pedophile....its just illogical.
@Serpico261 Well, many people would argue that the concept of pedophilia didn't exist at the time, and that we can't apply our modern world's concepts to the 7th century.
@attozes yes i heared a lot of these kind of arguments..as if it doesnt matter that he is a prophet.
Im sure you agree with me when i say these arguments are totally nonsense.
its like saying back in the day six year old children were some sort of different than todays children.
i guess slaves also didnt exist back than, cause there was no category of human freedom for all. Yes and of course people thought child molestation was a good thing, thats why all fathers and mothers agreed on that
@globehunter2 If Muhammed was a pedofile then God must have been one too who made Mary pregnant at age 12 ! or Jesus had no problem with Joseph 90 years old marrying Mary 13-14 year old ! how dare you accuse others when you have shit on your arse ? what about Abraham marrying his sister or Lot having sex with his daughters, or solomon with hundreds of wives and concubines ? You call Jesus a human being God , can it be more ignorance than that ?
I would say that neither Mohammed or Jesus is or was a good prophet. LUKE 19:27 "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me". Although Mohammed said and did worse than Jesus, as you can see in this sentence Jesus supported genocide, unjustified executions and theft. Muslims also accept Jesus as a prophet in Islam. Wish people would find themselves a real education that can be substantiated by what is real & existent.
according to izlamic ' scholars ' , mohammad had sex with each one of his herd of women (11) EVERY night , so... over the course of say, 10 years, - that's more than 30,000 ejaculations....!!
- But all he produced was a dead bastard (ibrahim), -from an adulterous affair with his wifes maid, And MAYBE Fatty- Ma, although she may have been someone elses.
SO, - was mo firing BLANKS...??
- I think so...
perhaps he was even IMPOTENT, which may have contributed to his psychosis
@nomoreliblabcon what makes you think that girls reached puberty earlier at that time ! ask Mary the mother of Jesus who was 12 when she got pregnant and at 13-14 married a 90 year old called Joseph ! ask the jews
@MrCobra811 No, Mary was betroved to Joseph BEFORE she became pregnant. She married Joseph when she was between 11 and 14, then became pregnant AFTERWARDS. The big difference here though, is that Mary and Joseph NEVER had sexual intercourse, Unlike Mohammed, who had sex with Aisha when she was just 9 years old. And Joseph was not 90 years old, he was a man in his 30's.
@Jesusthepalestinian The Talmud is not the Bible but merely rabbinical opinion. Where does it say Paul sucked Timohty's penis in Acts. Are you smoking bango when you read the Bible?
@Jesusthepalestinian I saw a circumcision when I was in a kibbutz. A Jewish baby is circumcised at 9 days old. This baby in the kibbutz had wine rubbed on his tummy and someone else the father holds the baby when his foreskin is removed. You know nothing about Judaism but what anti-God Islamic websites teach idiots.
@irishxxkelt - {WE PERFORM ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CIRCUMCISION ON THE SABBATH. WE CIRCUMCISE, UNCOVER [THE CORONA], SUCK [THE WOUND], AND PLACE A COMPRESS AND CUMMIN UPON IT. IF ONE DID NOT CRUSH [THE CUMMIM] ON THE EVE OF THE SABBATH, HE MUST CHEW [IT] WITH HIS TEETH AND APPLY [IT TO THE WOUND]...Mishna , Tractate Shabbath 133a, see also Gamara Tractate Shabbath 133b {-WE SUCK IT OUT,...} Paul had circumcized TIMOTHY according to JEWISH TRADITION ACTS15, 16:3-5 .
@Jesusthepalestinian Well that is from what the Talmud written after the New Testament? I was a witness to a circumcision in a kibbutz in Israel. All I can see is that cumin must be chewed...........so what?
The Great Commission was idirectly given only to Christ's Eleven Apostles NOT gentile dogs like U.and was restrict to "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew10:5-42 15:24).
NO Biblical passage which specifically promises any of the gentilesThis strongly indicates that there is actually no reward in waiting for you (or other gentiles who adhere to the Israelites exclusive covenant (viz. the Bible Isaac and his Blood line alone GEN 17:19)).
@Jesusthepalestinian It was given to 12 Apostles directly. Another person was given Judas's place. Jesus showed when a Roman officer asked him to heal his servant. Also Peter witnessed to another Roman and his household, possiblly the centurion who said that truely Jesus was the Son of God. Philip wintessed to an Ethiopian eunuch. God said that Abraham, through Isaac and Jacob would be a blessing to the whole world. How come Jesus now is appearing now to Saudis and Iranians?
@MrCobra811 No, Mary was betroved to Joseph BEFORE she became pregnant. She married Joseph when she was between 11 and 14, then became pregnant AFTERWARDS. The big difference here though, is that Mary and Joseph NEVER had sexual intercourse, Unlike Mohammed, who had sex with Aisha when she was just 9 years old. And Joseph was not 90 years old, he was a man in his 30's.
@MrCobra811 No, Mary was betroved to Joseph BEFORE she became pregnant. She married Joseph when she was between 11 and 14, then became pregnant AFTERWARDS. The big difference here though, is that Mary and Joseph NEVER had sexual intercourse, Unlike Mohammed, who had sex with Aisha when she was just 9 years old. And Joseph was not 90 years old, he was a man in his 30's.
And nuh (Noah) said: my lord! Leave not upon the land any dweller from among the unbelievers:
27-for surely if thou leave them they will lead astray thy servants, and will not beget any but immoral, ungrateful (children);
28-my lord! Forgive me and my parents and him who enters my house believing, and the believing men and the believing women; and do not increase the unjust in aught but destruction!
Then Moses and Aaron came from before the congregation to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell upon their faces, and god glory began to appear to them.
Deuteronomy-ch-26-vs-10
And now here I have brought the first fruits of the fruitage of the ground that god has given me.
You must also deposit it before god and bow down before god your god.
Well if the litmus test that is suggested here is that because the prophet was married to Aisha ( R.A ) at a young age and in today's time how can we imagine that a 53 year old man be married to a 8 yr old girl. Then according to his logic I can very well say that the bible talks about Prophets of god who have committed Incest (Nauzubillah - God forbid). Namely : Prophet Lot (PBUH) so according to his logic since Prophet Lot was a messenger of God, does he find it accetable to commit Incest??
The only problem with your argument is that you are saying he isn't a pedophile because she wanted him back. Try using that statement in court. "But your honor......she wanted it too!" It doesn't work. He was a pedophile! He wasn't ever a prophet. He made "revelations" that were convienent for him. The entire religion of Islam is a sham or a crock of shit if you like that terminology better.
why is Islam and muslims such a big deal to all you guys live and let live. we as muslims don't give a shit what religion you practice nor how you choose to worship. just let it be.
Guys, Why do you think we hate Jesus or (eesa) salah allah 3alayh wa salam.We Muslims hate no prophet We hate no religion,guys cant we all be friends.For the sake of Mohammed,Jesus.Moses Salah allah 3alayhum wa salam Please guys
@xPredetorzz Hmmm, nice idea. But religion isn't designed for peace. Tell your story to shiites and shias who wont stop killing each other, liek catholics and protestants killed each other 500 years ago.
judaism was the first religion of god or allah same thing then came jesus because judaism was being corrupted so god sent a better version of what he expects from people, JEWS didnt want to accept jesus or christianity and the finally ended up trying to crusify him. Then christianity was corrupted ( where in bible it says go to church on sunday and hang the nigger on monday?) anyway mohammed came along and brought gods last updated religion ISLAM and yes we muslims belive in jesus and love him.
judaism was the first religion of god or allah @Mohammedsaiid Why there is NO word Jew being mentioned the five books of Moses( what U believe to be Torsh)? and heyDo U think this dog of the bible called yhwh"יְהוה >Whom is LORDJEALOUS Ex20:5 >Gave a STUPID DIVINE MOONING To Mosses Ex33:23 >Then being SHAFTED by man Named Jacob after long night wrestle Gen32:28 IS ALLAH THE TRUE GOD ? !!! YHWH is a MAN(אִישׁ) of war.} Ex15:3 FUCK THIS ISH אִישׁ the son of BITCH name yhwh"יְהוה
o my God he is sooo jelous to our beloved prophet (peace be upon him) let him die in his jelousy and for brothers and sisters who wanna know truth about prophet (peace be upon him) plz read quran not any other book to know about islam bcoz Quran was written in the life of prophet (peace be upon him) and other books are written 250 years after beloved prophet (peace be upon him) rely on Quran, peace be on every person who follow the truth amin
@ryanboyd72yahoo hahahaah v funny i love jews brother moses david soloman john the baptist jesus are infect jews and messengers of God how can i God forbid hate them ? ? ? ? jews are our brothers like you are my brother God bless you and jews amin
Ibn Ishaq: Suhayli, 2.79: In the riwaya of Yunus Ibn Ishaq recorded that the apostle saw Ummu’l-Fadl hen she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ (Page Number 311)
(Musnad Ahmad, Number 25636) Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, "If she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her."
If u look at the main source of Muhammads life & which the majority of Muslims believe in u should note that the so called "fact" about a 9 yr wife are based on hearsay / rumours written well over 240 yrs after the Prophets death from what are known as Hadith. Such unreliable evidence would be thrown out of court so everybody whether pro- or anti- muslim need to get real & just accept that apart from those present then & the Creator know the absolute truth. Lets just park this one shall we ?
Both Jesus (pbuh) & Mohammed (pbuh) were great prophets, To ask who is better is a bad question. They both served Allah, Jesus had what he had, and did what he did by the grace of Allah, And so did Mohammed. They both had the same Message, serve Allah Alone, They are both great prophets.
What is Taboo in one culture might not be taboo in another, And the same goes for time. Some places in the US today you can get married at 13 or 14 and start having kids. Muhammads (PBUH) first wife was 15 years older then him. The thing is Her family gave her away in Marriage, The Village had Jews & Christians, no out cry, why?? Because this was not Taboo, Christians & Jews did this. Aisha was at his side when he died, She became a great leader In Islam. Does not sound like a rape victim.
Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khomeini, married a 12-year-old girl, and gave his consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against full penetration until the baby is a few years older).
In April, 2010, a 13-year-old Yemeni girl died from injuries suffered to her womb during intercourse.
Muhammad's sexual antics are an embarrassment to those Muslims who are aware of them. This is particularly so for their prophet's marriage to Aisha and having sex with her when she was 9-years-old.
The thought of a 52-year-old man sleeping and bathing with a young girl is intensely unpleasant and it reflects the disgusting character of a sexual glutton rather than a holy man.
By today's standards Muhammad was a paedophile.
Sex with pre pubescent girls was common place in the 6th century.
Muhammad had sex with just about anyone he pleased, thanks to Allah's extraordinary interest in his personal sex life, as immortalized in the Qur'an.
Although the Qur'an didn't appear to have enough space for topics like universal love and brotherhood (which Muslims sometimes insist are there, but aren't), the list of sexual partners that Muhammad was entitled to is detailed more than once, sometimes in categories and sometimes in reference to specific persons (Zaynab & Mary).
Narrated 'Aisha: the Prophet married her when she was six years old and consummated his marriage when she was nine years old,
Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
Narrated Hisham's father: The prophet married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236
A'isha reported; Allah's Apostle married me when I was six years old, Sahih Muslim 8:3310
Theres a hundred such hadiths, so please stop denying your prophet was pedo.
Paul self admitted by (his OWN words) to be the devil in flesh,[ Evil is present within me(Rom 7:16-21]
In a " SIMILAR WAY " Can U provide me with a Quranic text or Hadith said by the Prophet himself(i.e HIS OWN WORDS, OWN WORDING ) NOT Hadith been said by Others .. But Hadith that has his OWN WORDING or ANY QURANIC TEXT that legalized sex with Minor, ....just like YHWH did by making mosses to rape little girls as DIVINE command see Numbers 31:17?
Really.. Lets see...Jerusalem will have sex or (be shafted) by big Egyptians penises. Ezekiel16:26 ..Is this a promised Prophecy?
What make me believeabout this Prophecy isbecause it is ONLY ..The only Correct fact in the bible, in which any one can attest is ...THE EXISTANCE OF GIGANTIC EGYPTION FAT SHLONG Ezekiel16:26 ....IT IS LONG FAT TALE BUT NOT fairytale
first of all aisha was not 6 years old or 9 when she married the best of creation, but at least 17 and according to some researches she was in her 40.
first of all i ame not here to critisize christianity.
but this dousn't fit in the modern world also.
International Standard Version
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"
so u think that I should do exactly what my prophet does? no, I should use my mind and my Quran, and then imitate.. and if I did follow his footsteps, I wouldn't be commiting a sin.. just because the aisha instance does not apply now, that doesn't mean that not gona apply forever! virgin Mary married st. joseph very young of age.. and she is the mother of Jesus. and he was sooo much older than her.. she is his mother.. can I take her as a role model in christianity?? is she a good role model??
Mohammad is a supberb role model.. and just because this instant of marriage doesn't apply nowadays that doesn't mean that he's not a good role model! all the other women he married were widows/or divorced.. some of them were older than him!
ur logic is nuts! so by ur logic I should take Jesus as my role model because he wasn't married(or he is a better model) in that particular instant.. but using ur logic then .. Men shouldn't get married if they really thought of Jesus as the role model to follow. you can take somebody as a role model and easily pick what applies to u at this day and age..
im ex muslim and i tell u ....muhammad didnt gain power when he married to older women... once he got power he went on rampage ...safiah bint huyayy case worst then aysha ..when he killed all her family and married her same night and she was so young and beautiful that he camped there 3 nights
muhammed married a 6 year old girl....you keep saying 9...she was 6 when she was forced to marry muhammed. muhammed tried to fuck her for 3 years and finally got his penis into her vagina when she was 9. muhammed is a pedofile. muhammed raped a child. Dude I think your a pedofile. You support sex with children.....
Jay how can you say muhammad having sex with a 9 year old was culturaly relevent?
mr and misses abu bakr may well have been trying to protect aisha by giving her to the so called prophet but if muhammad managed to become sexualy aroused by a nine year old why is he not a peedo?
if muhammad screwed a man he would be gay.
come on jay call a spade a spade.
are men who have sex with children not peedo's when the rest of the world is doing it?
@waddellski She wasn't 9 years old! Follow the 'Dot tk' link on my profile and read the scholarly article. The people don't understand is that Al-Tabari documented each and everything that he heard and that was to ensure that the information is passed to the later generations for research, so that, what is right is established.
Do you know how old was Marry(pbuh) when she conceived Christ??
I hope you are right but It seems to be a defence by decent human beings who know screwing kids is wrong and they do not want M' to be accused of such attrocities.
More important is what happens now, it needs to be broadcast that M' was not a monster, because little girls are still married off to dirty old muslims on the grounds that Muhamad's marrying a 6 year old is acceptable .
according to scholars ( and tradition) Mary was about 14, in this country (UK) that is still not acceptable, had mary married Muhammad at 14 it would be far more acceptable than if she ware 6 or 9
Christians believe Mary had jesus not by having sex with a man (or God) but rather God performed a miracle and made Mary Pregnant without sex so even if she was 14 there was no man involved
@artistdigital For moslim people muhammad's life is the model and they follows what he did in his life. So why not muslim' s people start marrying nine times included marrying with six year old kid. i never saw or heard that practice. This is because it is not possible in real life and is a torture for a 6 year kid. Being as a true prophet he should be a role model not a sick person much greedy to fulfill his sex desire. That is a crimianl acts also in our society which should be opposed.
Pretending Aisha was 9 when she consummated marriage with the Prophet(sws), is a fraud. Numerous facts prove she was 18 to 20, most probably 19 years old.
Jesus(PwH) was one of the most wonderfull exemples for humanity, so do believe all muslims. So was Mohammad(sws).
Moslims who use this gossip as an excuse to marry very young girls are wrong. Aisha was 16 when she was promised for marriage (engaged) &19 when she went living with the Prophet(sws), there is very few doubt about this now.
Pretending Aisha was 9 when she consummated marriage with the Prophet(sws), is a fraud. Numerous facts prove she was 18 to 20, most probably 19 years old.
Jesus(PwH) was one of the most wonderfull exemples for humanity, so do believe all muslims. So was Mohammad(sws).
Moslims who use this gossip as an excuse to marry very young girls are wrong. Aisha was 16 when she was promised for marriage (engaged) &19 when she went living with the Prophet(sws), there is very few doubt about this now.
Yeah, you are absolutely right but how many people can we correct. There are even those people who believe in a messenger after the Prophet(saw) and call themselves Muslims, some abuse many those who were honored by the Prophet(saw).....
@MichelDardenne Prophet Would not Marry an Underage girl BCOZ the issue of marriage in( Quran" 2:235, 2:231 ) is all defined around the meaning of the "word Al Nisa النساء. it's exclusively refer to "Female above age of puberty حلم &show maturity رشد .Messenger would NOT act or legislate things that has NO signature LET ALONE CONTRADICT the Quran [69:44-50].
If U want to know about Child Rapist READ Numbers 31:17
@Jesusthepalestinian Wow, I'm wondering how you got 44 thumbs up with a ridiculous comment like this. Read tafsir Ibn Kathir on the verse in question, it says "and those who had not reahced puberty" as an explanation for 'واللائي لم يحضن'...
What is MORE AUTHENTIC THAN QURAN? EVERY OTHER BOOK ON THE PLANET.
@attozes .and Who is IBN KATHER?! He is NOT the Prophet ! where his “authority come from”.
His Invention ie simply a matter of Opinions until he "first proof" the justification of his own existence
Let The Quran Speak for itself .Verse talk about WOMEN نسائكم NOT Girls. Where word (Nisa) in Quran and in other Arabic sources is used for little girls?
If U want to know about Child Rapist READ NUM 31:17
@Jesusthepalestinian Why are you so fucking stupid? I imagine you have an IQ of 60.
I just gave you proof that the Qu'ran use Nisa as little girls in many many verses.
Also, it's not Ibn Kathir alone. الجلالين also explains it the same way : "...فَعِدَّتهنَّ ثَلَاثَة أَشْهُر وَاَللَّائِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ" لِصِغَرِهِنَّ فَعِدَّتهنَّ ثَلَاثَة أَشْهُر..."
@Jesusthepalestinian Just for the record, Ibn Kathir is the best commentator of the Qu'ran of all time. All those big scholars of yours to day rely on it. They grew up reading his books.
Jay Smith is a joke -.-
notionSlave 3 weeks ago
In relation to the prophet Muhammad’s (pbuh) marriage to Aiesha then there are three opinions on the matter. 1.) Through mathematics of subtracting the date in which one of her siblings passed away we can conclude that Aiesah was actually 17 when she got married. 2.) We simply don’t know the age and remain silent about it. 3.) Is that she was 9 years old and we have no problem with this opinion if that is the case as I’ll explain below.
MadMoeOnTheRadio 1 month ago
Part 1: People need to bare in mind that there is something called “Evolution of Man.” This is in all aspects of life including “AGE”. So for example when we look into the Bible we see that many of the prophets lived to be hundreds of years old. (e.g. Noah was 950 years). So if this were the case then we can conclude that over the years man has seen an evolutionary shift of our age. Also we can conclude that if there was a shift in age there must have been a shift in Maturity as well.
MadMoeOnTheRadio 1 month ago
Part 2: We can conclude that the aging process of a person who is 950 years old will be a lot different than a person who lives to be 95 years old. In the cells humans there is something called a telomere which is responsible for our aging. As we grow our cells divide and each time this happens this telomere is shortened. Scientists say that this is the only reason why we age, and that if they could stop the telomere from shortening then say there is no reason why we couldn’t live much longer.
MadMoeOnTheRadio 1 month ago
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Part 3: The next issue one needs to realize is that man’s main purposes in life is to procreate and have children. The Encyclopedia Britannica says that at the time of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) the average lifespan was from 30 to 35 years of age. Now if a woman is expected to live and raise her children to the age of maturity then at that time she would have to be at least 15 years old just to raise one child (i.e. 15 + 15 = 30).
MadMoeOnTheRadio 1 month ago
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Part 4: If today people’s average lifespan was 60 and we were to divide the ageing and maturing process into 4 categories. (e.g. 15 years adolescence 15 Young Adult, 15 Middle Age, and 15 senior) then logically if the lifespan were shortened to half that number we can conclude that the effect would be felt in each of these categories. (e.g. 7.5 years adolescence etc.)
MadMoeOnTheRadio 1 month ago
Part 5: Finally the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself was kept young by God so that he could handle all the responsibilities of prophet hood. So even though he was 50 in age he appeared to be physically in his mid-twenties. And if your willing to take from our books and believe the age of Aiesha the you should also believe this point taken from the same book about his age. So really Aiesah was physically was more in likely around 17 and the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was physically around 25 to 30.
MadMoeOnTheRadio 1 month ago
Ok guys , lets make a red light saber !!!
wafflecommander15 1 month ago
Sahih Dawood Book 1, # 0270:
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Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
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One night prophet entered upon me said: Uncover your thighs i uncovered my thighs.Then he put his cheek & chest on my thighs
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FONDLING
Bukhari,Volume 1, Book 6, # 299
'Aisha said:Whenever Allah's Apostle fondled me he used to order me to put on an Izar and start fondling.
RightMyWay 2 months ago in playlist Cunnuga tar
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this is how you find the errors in the bible...
see the accounts of one person. mark luke john ect . .
then see the same accounts of someone else of the same account and youll find there would be many insetsy ini.. for example one person would say he said this.. anoyther would say compltry something else..
one person would say he said nothign when he was on the cross and die that way. another wouls say he said my father ect .. also go on my page and youll see many listed in the infos
rudeboywaz 3 months ago
If your model is Jesus peace be upon him, then go ahead and make my day, and cure the blind and do all his miracles buddy!
What's given by God to all his messengers is considered an exception for them only!
Mohammad peace be upon him was given some miracles and all Muslims know them.
He was physically fit to handle so many tasks at the same time.
He slaughtered 65 camels one shot then asked his companion Ali to complete100.
He(PBUH)never got tired of sex like how most humans.He was privileged.
extremelypolite 3 months ago
@extremelypolite really i mean really The All Mighhty and All Powerful God was interested in muhammads' sex Life that he made him a bukk in bed??? or was muhammad simply a Nympho u even slept with his slave had husbands killed and then hours later slept with their wives andf that was all part of Gods' plan for muhammad???
njfreddy 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@njfreddy
Ignorant people like you are so many nowadays!Who are you to judge Islam?U R Nothing!
You are one of those brainless idiots who has been brainwashed by prejudice, racist priests like the latest stupid priest who called for a burn the Quran day!
We are talking about a revelation and so many evidences proven by great scientist all over the world.
Watch these two videos and you will see what those great Western people have to say about Islam?
watch?v=J_Dllu42eEA
watch?v=lnsIeh_s05g
extremelypolite 2 months ago 2
@extremelypolite who cares what the guy that said burn the Qur'an day, if he is a priest he is not a Catholic Priest!!..u call me brainless?? hahahahaahhaha ur the One following a guy u cant even spell his own name, slept with a 9 year old, tell me any other Peopjet that has killed more people then muhammad?
njfreddy 2 months ago
@njfreddy
Your mother killed so many bastard, and you happen to be the only survivor!
You dummy,an Arabic name dose not have to go by the English language rules!
It has one way of spelling in Arabic you dummy, but not in English!
The name is not English you retard!
Mohammad,Mohamad,Mohamed.Mohammed are all OK you idiot!
Your mother couldn't get rid of you because you are one special bastard!
Your dad is the Devil!
Muslims did not kill anyone.They reached the West and lasted for800peaceful years
extremelypolite 2 months ago
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@njfreddy
Your mother killed so many bastard, and you happen to be the only survivor!
You dummy,an Arabic name dose not have to go by the English language rules!
It has one way of spelling in Arabic you dummy, but not in English!
The name is not English you retard!
Mohammad,Mohamad,Mohamed.Mohammed are all OK you idiot!
Your mother couldn't get rid of you because you are one special bastard!
Your dad is the Devil!
Muslims did not kill anyone.They reached the West and lasted for800peaceful years
extremelypolite 2 months ago
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@njfreddy
Your mother killed so many bastard, and you happen to be the only survivor!
You dummy,an Arabic name dose not have to go by the English language rules!
It has one way of spelling in Arabic you dummy, but not in English!
The name is not English you retard!
Mohammad,Mohamad,Mohamed.Mohammed are all OK you idiot!
Your mother couldn't get rid of you because you are one special bastard!
Your dad is the Devil!
Muslims did not kill anyone.They reached the West and lasted for800peaceful years
extremelypolite 2 months ago
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@njfreddy
Your mother killed so many bastard, and you happen to be the only survivor!
You dummy,an Arabic name dose not have to go by the English language rules!
It has one way of spelling in Arabic you dummy, but not in English!
The name is not English you retard!
Mohammad,Mohamad,Mohamed.Mohammed are all OK u idiot!
Your mother couldn't get rid of you because you are one special bastard!
Your dad is the Devil!
Muslims did not kill anyone.They reached the West and lasted for800peaceful years
extremelypolite 2 months ago
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@njfreddy
Your mother killed so many bastard, and you happen to be the only survivor!
You dummy,an Arabic name dose not have to go by the English language rules!
It has one way of spelling in Arabic you dummy, but not in English!
The name is not English you retard!
Mohammad,Mohamad,Mohamed.Mohammed are all OK u idiot!
Your mother couldn't get rid of you because you are one special bastard!
Your dad is the Devil!
Muslims did not kill anyone.They reached the West and lasted for800peaceful years
extremelypolite 2 months ago
o yes you can give him title of pedophilia without any problem first he lusted for virgins ,second he lusted for crawling baby ,and third he slept with 9 yr old girl if we look today in Muslim world what psychological effect it has on the young girls ,we can see that even then they knew that is wrong to sleep with children,watch the videos of such girls on YouTube they want to kill them selves their fathers marry them with their uncles,other family members its not just pedophilia but incest too.
zilexxx 5 months ago
Being an atheist, I.. have too much to say, and too little patience to say it. Doesn't really matter what you say in a youtube comment anyway.
TheZairae 6 months ago
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Say (O Muhammad): O ye who reject faith!
I worship not that which ye worship.
Nor will you worship that which I worship.
And I will never worship that which you worship.
Nor will you worship that which I worship.
Unto you is your religion and unto me is my religion (Islam).
bennothman 6 months ago
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It doesn't matter. If you marry and have sex with a 9-year old girl, you're by definition a pedophile.
gupsphoo 6 months ago
PLEASE. A 9 YEAR OLD GIRL IS NOT PHYSICALLY NOR PSYCHOLOGICALLY READY FOR SEX OR MARRIAGE, THAT IS NOW OR 1400 YEARS AGO, EVERYWHERE, IN AFRICA, IN CHINA OR IN THE ANDES. SO DON'T SAY THAT HAVING SEX WITH A 9 YEAR OLD IS A CULTURAL THING, ETC. ADMIT IT, YOUR PROPHET WAS NOTHING BUT A PEDOPHILE. AICHA HERSELF REPEATS IT IN BUKHARI AND MUSLIM, THAT SHE WAS 6 WHEN HE MARRIED HER AND 9 WHEN THEY CONSUMMATED THE MARRIAGE AND SHE ADDS THAT SHE BROUGHT HER TOYS. WHO DO YOU WANT TO FOOL?
DictaduraNo123 7 months ago
but the thing is ther are over 1billion muslims and you never hear of child marrieges to a old man , but you do hear of child abuses in the western culture . and i for one would not want a western pedophile to be associated with islam .
Ashia was given as a bride and that was a normal custom at that time . giving away daughters for marriege in 6th century and todays practice of pedophilia is totaly different thing .
jahan442 7 months ago
the better prophrt for today will be jackob sir and not jessus with all my respect for both of "muhammed" and"jesus" but what u trying to do is to attack muhammed and u doing it the wrong way"peace"
BILLELENZO 7 months ago
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Harold Camping was RIGHT about May 21, click on my channel to see...
youneekk 7 months ago
Amazing! Good job Jay! Keep up the good work! God Bless You.
Thuva44 8 months ago
@Thuva44 Jay smith is doing a GREAT JOB For Islam.
Beimg an academic failure is a proof that thisGentile dog and his elk are just hot balloons
:+D
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian Jay Smith knows more about Islam than most Muslims. I had the privilege of meeting him at Speaker's Corner.
irishxxkelt 8 months ago
This is flawed, the Prophet, nor the Quran dont mention a particular age that it is acceptable to get married, but it only permits men and women, that are physiologically and psychologically fit to get married regardless of age. In 7th century arabia, life expectancies were around 30 so they had no option but to get married after reaching puberty provided they were also mentally fit to do so, and people matured much earlier due to the adult responsibilities they faces at an early age.
mrahman1992 8 months ago
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irishxxkelt 8 months ago
@mrahman1992 I accept that childhood was very short in 7th century Arabia. But no 9 year old would be able to have an erect penis inserted inside her. The Hadiths state that Ayesha used to wash semen stains off the clothing of Mohammed. He used to masturate by "thighing" her. Also a limited diet of dates, goat and sheep cheese would delay puberty. Nowdays many young girls have their first period at 11 due to an overabundance of meat and additives in processed food.
irishxxkelt 8 months ago
@mrahman1992 FIRST POINT
Prophet Would not Marry an Underage girl BCOZ The issue of marriage in( Quran" 2:235, 2:231 ) is all defined around the meaning of the "word Al Nisa النساء. it's exclusively refer to "Female above age of puberty حلم &show maturity رشد .In Quran Prophet’s wives always R referred to as Nisa
Messenger would NOT act or legislate things that has NO signature LET ALONE CONTRADICT the Quran [69:44-50].
If U want to know about Child Rapist READ bible book of NUMS 31:17
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
@mrahman SECOND POINT/ Last Point
NOW Knowing the FACT that For a (Halal) / Koshr marriage in Islam the Husband and wife according to Quran must REACH the state of puberty حلم and show Maturity word (Rushd رشد)
The Question is..
WHAT is your ideal AGE standard or criteria for marriage. .in SECULAR WORLD.... bearing in mind that the following three secular countries [ china uk and Italy ] have Different legal marital age which standard should be followed ? ......and why?
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
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you are a sick fuck anyone who has sex with a 9 year old is a fucking pedophile
BowToMySkill 8 months ago
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Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian By daughter I mean little girls, I said that becasuse of the context of the verse because it says your sons...
attozes 8 months ago
@attozes
We don't play games..The language is very clear..and very simple...
If you don't know Arabic go and learn Arabic before we can continue discussing the actual meaning of the verses.
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
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Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
@attozes To prove that you are not a GENTILE DOG christian Facist or a goy Jew/ goy Jo. I would like to U to "openly "condem LORD JEALUSES of the bible Standards where he ordered the RAPING of little girls Numbers 31:18.. and the extermination of living things from men women children to living plants and animals DEUT 20:16-18.
The standards of the dog of the bible Adolf Yhwh or LORD Jealous Make Hitler looks timid
I would like to have your response on that
;)
;)
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
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@Jesusthepalestinian I told you you're a moron, I neither a Christian nor a Jew.
attozes 8 months ago
what an idiot...doesnt know what pedophilia is....WOW
Serpico261 9 months ago
@Serpico261 What is pedophilia?
attozes 9 months ago
@attozes first of all, the definition of pedophilia is not based on an opinion (why are you asking me?), but on criteria (psychatric ICD 10) that is based on common sense to our biological physiology and psychology and of course our rationality,
There is a website called wikipedia and many other internet sites you can answer this question.
But before you research this, what would you call someone that has sex with a 9 year old? if you are a muslim you would say "the perfect human being"
Serpico261 9 months ago
@Serpico261 Calm down, I thought you're a Muslim and you have another vision of it. Anyway, we would both agree that Muhammad was a terrible man.
attozes 9 months ago
@attozes haha i thought you were a muslim, i was sure. I just dont understand why the guy in the video, although he makes great points, suddenly says muhammed was no way a pedophile....its just illogical.
Serpico261 9 months ago
@Serpico261 Well, many people would argue that the concept of pedophilia didn't exist at the time, and that we can't apply our modern world's concepts to the 7th century.
attozes 9 months ago
@attozes yes i heared a lot of these kind of arguments..as if it doesnt matter that he is a prophet.
Im sure you agree with me when i say these arguments are totally nonsense.
its like saying back in the day six year old children were some sort of different than todays children.
i guess slaves also didnt exist back than, cause there was no category of human freedom for all. Yes and of course people thought child molestation was a good thing, thats why all fathers and mothers agreed on that
Serpico261 9 months ago
This guy clearly has nothing better to do
mlntas 10 months ago
Muhammad was a pedophile! 9 year old girls are not adults!! no matter
how you try and jusify this rapist messenger. Jesus was not a pedophile,
how dare you even compare Jesus to Muhammad the Pedophile.
Your a disgrace.
globehunter2 10 months ago
@globehunter2 If Muhammed was a pedofile then God must have been one too who made Mary pregnant at age 12 ! or Jesus had no problem with Joseph 90 years old marrying Mary 13-14 year old ! how dare you accuse others when you have shit on your arse ? what about Abraham marrying his sister or Lot having sex with his daughters, or solomon with hundreds of wives and concubines ? You call Jesus a human being God , can it be more ignorance than that ?
MrCobra811 10 months ago
I would say that neither Mohammed or Jesus is or was a good prophet. LUKE 19:27 "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me". Although Mohammed said and did worse than Jesus, as you can see in this sentence Jesus supported genocide, unjustified executions and theft. Muslims also accept Jesus as a prophet in Islam. Wish people would find themselves a real education that can be substantiated by what is real & existent.
aydtrue 10 months ago
Muhammad loves little children, he couldn't be any different than a pedophile that was put in jails.
hardreality1000 11 months ago
according to izlamic ' scholars ' , mohammad had sex with each one of his herd of women (11) EVERY night , so... over the course of say, 10 years, - that's more than 30,000 ejaculations....!!
- But all he produced was a dead bastard (ibrahim), -from an adulterous affair with his wifes maid, And MAYBE Fatty- Ma, although she may have been someone elses.
SO, - was mo firing BLANKS...??
- I think so...
perhaps he was even IMPOTENT, which may have contributed to his psychosis
53yoMoRAPESa9yoChild 11 months ago
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And in this story dear children, mohammed is impersonating the wolf from Little Red Riding Hood.....(now read on)....
"Oh my, mohammed - what big teeth you have"!
"All the better for nibbling your 9 year old clit with my dear Aisha"
"Oh my, mohammed, what big balls you have!"
"All the better for banging on your chin while I'm stuffing your mouth Aisha!"
"Oh my, mohammed, what a big peni..mmfffugh gulp mmffurggggg gulp......"
"Shut up bitch, and keep sucking!"
TheProphetMo 11 months ago
What makes you even think that girls reached puberty earlier atthe time of mohammed, where is your evidence for this RIDICULOUS statement?
nomoreliblabcon 11 months ago
@nomoreliblabcon what makes you think that girls reached puberty earlier at that time ! ask Mary the mother of Jesus who was 12 when she got pregnant and at 13-14 married a 90 year old called Joseph ! ask the jews
MrCobra811 10 months ago
@MrCobra811 No, Mary was betroved to Joseph BEFORE she became pregnant. She married Joseph when she was between 11 and 14, then became pregnant AFTERWARDS. The big difference here though, is that Mary and Joseph NEVER had sexual intercourse, Unlike Mohammed, who had sex with Aisha when she was just 9 years old. And Joseph was not 90 years old, he was a man in his 30's.
What is your source for your info, the Qu'ran?
Stop distorting the truth you lying FUCK.
nomoreliblabcon 10 months ago
@nomoreliblabcon If Sucking the Penus is part and parcel of Jewish Ritual on CIRCUMCISION see MISHNAH Talmud, ractate Shabbath133a
Can we Name PAUL THE ""DICK SUCKER ""for SUCKING THE SHLONG OF TIMOTHY ' ACTS 16:3? ! ! ! !
I think that is Y Paul cant CONTINUE WITH THIS RITUAL..CAUSE HE HAD ENOUGH SUCKING THE DICKS OF GREEK MEN ? ? !!
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
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@Jesusthepalestinian If you like!
nomoreliblabcon 8 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian The Talmud is not the Bible but merely rabbinical opinion. Where does it say Paul sucked Timohty's penis in Acts. Are you smoking bango when you read the Bible?
irishxxkelt 8 months ago
@irishxxkelt But the bible says in ACTS 16:3-5 That Paul circumsizsed Timothy according to the " Jewish Rituals" ! ! ! !... a "Jewish CIRCUMCISION.
How is the Jewish CIRCUMCISION. is preformed?!!!
LoooooooooooooooooL
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian I saw a circumcision when I was in a kibbutz. A Jewish baby is circumcised at 9 days old. This baby in the kibbutz had wine rubbed on his tummy and someone else the father holds the baby when his foreskin is removed. You know nothing about Judaism but what anti-God Islamic websites teach idiots.
irishxxkelt 8 months ago
@irishxxkelt - {WE PERFORM ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CIRCUMCISION ON THE SABBATH. WE CIRCUMCISE, UNCOVER [THE CORONA], SUCK [THE WOUND], AND PLACE A COMPRESS AND CUMMIN UPON IT. IF ONE DID NOT CRUSH [THE CUMMIM] ON THE EVE OF THE SABBATH, HE MUST CHEW [IT] WITH HIS TEETH AND APPLY [IT TO THE WOUND]...Mishna , Tractate Shabbath 133a, see also Gamara Tractate Shabbath 133b {-WE SUCK IT OUT,...} Paul had circumcized TIMOTHY according to JEWISH TRADITION ACTS15, 16:3-5 .
Is Paul a DICK SUCKER?!
Jesusthepalestinian 7 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian Well that is from what the Talmud written after the New Testament? I was a witness to a circumcision in a kibbutz in Israel. All I can see is that cumin must be chewed...........so what?
irishxxkelt 7 months ago
@irishxxkelt Conclusion
The Great Commission was idirectly given only to Christ's Eleven Apostles NOT gentile dogs like U.and was restrict to "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew10:5-42 15:24).
NO Biblical passage which specifically promises any of the gentilesThis strongly indicates that there is actually no reward in waiting for you (or other gentiles who adhere to the Israelites exclusive covenant (viz. the Bible Isaac and his Blood line alone GEN 17:19)).
Jesusthepalestinian 7 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian It was given to 12 Apostles directly. Another person was given Judas's place. Jesus showed when a Roman officer asked him to heal his servant. Also Peter witnessed to another Roman and his household, possiblly the centurion who said that truely Jesus was the Son of God. Philip wintessed to an Ethiopian eunuch. God said that Abraham, through Isaac and Jacob would be a blessing to the whole world. How come Jesus now is appearing now to Saudis and Iranians?
irishxxkelt 7 months ago
@MrCobra811 No, Mary was betroved to Joseph BEFORE she became pregnant. She married Joseph when she was between 11 and 14, then became pregnant AFTERWARDS. The big difference here though, is that Mary and Joseph NEVER had sexual intercourse, Unlike Mohammed, who had sex with Aisha when she was just 9 years old. And Joseph was not 90 years old, he was a man in his 30's.
What is your source for your info, the Qu'ran?
Stop distorting the truth you lying FUCK.
nomoreliblabcon 10 months ago
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@MrCobra811 No, Mary was betroved to Joseph BEFORE she became pregnant. She married Joseph when she was between 11 and 14, then became pregnant AFTERWARDS. The big difference here though, is that Mary and Joseph NEVER had sexual intercourse, Unlike Mohammed, who had sex with Aisha when she was just 9 years old. And Joseph was not 90 years old, he was a man in his 30's.
What is your source for your info, the Qu'ran?
Stop distorting the truth, LIAR.
nomoreliblabcon 10 months ago
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Do you even KNOW the Quran? Muhammed legitimised sex with PRE-PUBESCANT girls, PRE pubescant.
I suggest you read the hadiths of 'Bukhari', volume 5 #234, volume 7 #64.
The evidence is also written in the hadiths of 'Muslim' volume 2 #3309,
The hadiths of Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116,
and The History of Tabari", volume 9, page 131.
Now stop trying to deceive people, you fucking DORK.
nomoreliblabcon 11 months ago
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1400 years ago
Quran:
{Surah-71-nuh (Noah) -vs-26}
And nuh (Noah) said: my lord! Leave not upon the land any dweller from among the unbelievers:
27-for surely if thou leave them they will lead astray thy servants, and will not beget any but immoral, ungrateful (children);
28-my lord! Forgive me and my parents and him who enters my house believing, and the believing men and the believing women; and do not increase the unjust in aught but destruction!
quranresponse 11 months ago
Exodus-ch-34-vs-8
Moses at once hurried to bow low to the earth and prostrate himself.
Numbers-ch-16-vs-20
God now spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying:
21- Separate yourselves from the midst of this assembly that I may exterminate them in an instant.
22- At this they fell upon their faces and said: o god of the spirits of every sort of flesh.
quranresponse 1 year ago
Numbers-ch-20-vs-6
Then Moses and Aaron came from before the congregation to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell upon their faces, and god glory began to appear to them.
Deuteronomy-ch-26-vs-10
And now here I have brought the first fruits of the fruitage of the ground that god has given me.
You must also deposit it before god and bow down before god your god.
quranresponse 1 year ago
Its Moronic Logic
zoheb290183 1 year ago
Well if the litmus test that is suggested here is that because the prophet was married to Aisha ( R.A ) at a young age and in today's time how can we imagine that a 53 year old man be married to a 8 yr old girl. Then according to his logic I can very well say that the bible talks about Prophets of god who have committed Incest (Nauzubillah - God forbid). Namely : Prophet Lot (PBUH) so according to his logic since Prophet Lot was a messenger of God, does he find it accetable to commit Incest??
zoheb290183 1 year ago
The only problem with your argument is that you are saying he isn't a pedophile because she wanted him back. Try using that statement in court. "But your honor......she wanted it too!" It doesn't work. He was a pedophile! He wasn't ever a prophet. He made "revelations" that were convienent for him. The entire religion of Islam is a sham or a crock of shit if you like that terminology better.
shawnlshs 1 year ago
why is Islam and muslims such a big deal to all you guys live and let live. we as muslims don't give a shit what religion you practice nor how you choose to worship. just let it be.
xPredetorzz 1 year ago
Guys, Why do you think we hate Jesus or (eesa) salah allah 3alayh wa salam.We Muslims hate no prophet We hate no religion,guys cant we all be friends.For the sake of Mohammed,Jesus.Moses Salah allah 3alayhum wa salam Please guys
:) PEACE
xPredetorzz 1 year ago
@xPredetorzz Hmmm, nice idea. But religion isn't designed for peace. Tell your story to shiites and shias who wont stop killing each other, liek catholics and protestants killed each other 500 years ago.
blueray1969 1 year ago
judaism was the first religion of god or allah same thing then came jesus because judaism was being corrupted so god sent a better version of what he expects from people, JEWS didnt want to accept jesus or christianity and the finally ended up trying to crusify him. Then christianity was corrupted ( where in bible it says go to church on sunday and hang the nigger on monday?) anyway mohammed came along and brought gods last updated religion ISLAM and yes we muslims belive in jesus and love him.
Mohammedsaiid 1 year ago
lordjealousisthinker 1 year ago
o my God he is sooo jelous to our beloved prophet (peace be upon him) let him die in his jelousy and for brothers and sisters who wanna know truth about prophet (peace be upon him) plz read quran not any other book to know about islam bcoz Quran was written in the life of prophet (peace be upon him) and other books are written 250 years after beloved prophet (peace be upon him) rely on Quran, peace be on every person who follow the truth amin
peacemaker571 1 year ago
@peacemaker571 i bet you want to kill jews, don't you?
ryanboyd72yahoo 1 year ago
@ryanboyd72yahoo hahahaah v funny i love jews brother moses david soloman john the baptist jesus are infect jews and messengers of God how can i God forbid hate them ? ? ? ? jews are our brothers like you are my brother God bless you and jews amin
peacemaker571 1 year ago
@peacemaker571 ha ha you're english not so good sounding bad
ryanboyd72yahoo 1 year ago
@ryanboyd72yahoo hahahaah i dont think that . . . . . .
peacemaker571 1 year ago
@peacemaker571 ha ha ha this think that speak english is badly good but this is yes!!!!!
ryanboyd72yahoo 1 year ago
@ryanboyd72yahoo you can talk in gibrish also .....hahahaha
peacemaker571 1 year ago
wake up !!! we dont need rule models !!! lidl kids m<ybe but adults 30 - 40 years old ???
johannsobieski 1 year ago
MUHAMMAD WANTED TO DO SEX WITH LITTLE CHILDRENS
Ibn Ishaq: Suhayli, 2.79: In the riwaya of Yunus Ibn Ishaq recorded that the apostle saw Ummu’l-Fadl hen she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ (Page Number 311)
(Musnad Ahmad, Number 25636) Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, "If she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her."
2000peterpaul 1 year ago
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If u look at the main source of Muhammads life & which the majority of Muslims believe in u should note that the so called "fact" about a 9 yr wife are based on hearsay / rumours written well over 240 yrs after the Prophets death from what are known as Hadith. Such unreliable evidence would be thrown out of court so everybody whether pro- or anti- muslim need to get real & just accept that apart from those present then & the Creator know the absolute truth. Lets just park this one shall we ?
timetothink01 1 year ago
religion = mental illness
luxfair 1 year ago
Both Jesus (pbuh) & Mohammed (pbuh) were great prophets, To ask who is better is a bad question. They both served Allah, Jesus had what he had, and did what he did by the grace of Allah, And so did Mohammed. They both had the same Message, serve Allah Alone, They are both great prophets.
TheHoustonMuslim 1 year ago
What is Taboo in one culture might not be taboo in another, And the same goes for time. Some places in the US today you can get married at 13 or 14 and start having kids. Muhammads (PBUH) first wife was 15 years older then him. The thing is Her family gave her away in Marriage, The Village had Jews & Christians, no out cry, why?? Because this was not Taboo, Christians & Jews did this. Aisha was at his side when he died, She became a great leader In Islam. Does not sound like a rape victim.
TheHoustonMuslim 1 year ago
He is absolutely utterly WRONG. WRONG WRONG
Girls go through puberty Earlier today because they are better nourished.
Better food = earlier onset mensuration.
Girls today in the West are better fed.
Even if a 9 year old has started mensuration. They are not ready for sexual intercourse.
Quiltinguk 1 year ago
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Oh it gets better!
Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khomeini, married a 12-year-old girl, and gave his consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against full penetration until the baby is a few years older).
In April, 2010, a 13-year-old Yemeni girl died from injuries suffered to her womb during intercourse.
Quiltinguk 1 year ago
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Muhammad's sexual antics are an embarrassment to those Muslims who are aware of them. This is particularly so for their prophet's marriage to Aisha and having sex with her when she was 9-years-old.
The thought of a 52-year-old man sleeping and bathing with a young girl is intensely unpleasant and it reflects the disgusting character of a sexual glutton rather than a holy man.
By today's standards Muhammad was a paedophile.
Sex with pre pubescent girls was common place in the 6th century.
Quiltinguk 1 year ago
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Muhammad had sex with just about anyone he pleased, thanks to Allah's extraordinary interest in his personal sex life, as immortalized in the Qur'an.
Although the Qur'an didn't appear to have enough space for topics like universal love and brotherhood (which Muslims sometimes insist are there, but aren't), the list of sexual partners that Muhammad was entitled to is detailed more than once, sometimes in categories and sometimes in reference to specific persons (Zaynab & Mary).
Quiltinguk 1 year ago
Mary mother of Jesus was a jewish girl following the jewish laws of the talmud who order that a girl at age of 9 is a women.
Mary married a Joseph who had white hairs and had chideren with him.
Logia1978 1 year ago
the problem is that
you live 80 years old today and at time of Muhammad less than 40 years old.
Muhammad is the universal model. Because in same socio cultural problem you would not have other choice.
Logia1978 1 year ago
yay JESUS! EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO THE WORDS AND TEACHINGS OF JESUS!
Lemon020202 1 year ago
mo was evil
MsArzoo1 1 year ago
@MsArzoo1
Jesus says " HE THAT EAT MY FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD DWELLTH IN ME ,AND I DWELL IN HIM" John6:56
Jesus Also said to his decibels " AND SURELY I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS TO THE VERY END OF AGE ." Matthew 28:20
...So Jesus will always be with his true decibels
But " PAUL" said { EVIL ..(not jesus).. BUT... EVIL IS PRESENT WITHIN ME } Rom 7:21
Is paul saint OR SATAN?
What Make U believe in Paul?
Paul is PURE EVIL
AntiChristPaul 1 year ago
Long discussion below,
I felt tired reading it.
NissanAltima2005 1 year ago
@ThePeaceMissile
Well said, excellent.
NissanAltima2005 1 year ago
Narrated 'Aisha: the Prophet married her when she was six years old and consummated his marriage when she was nine years old,
Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
Narrated Hisham's father: The prophet married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236
A'isha reported; Allah's Apostle married me when I was six years old, Sahih Muslim 8:3310
Theres a hundred such hadiths, so please stop denying your prophet was pedo.
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
@jigglyfidda125 ..Bukhary is NOT a Holy Book
NOTICE Also that these alleged Hadiths in Bukkary that CONTRADICT QURAN and ARE NOT EVEN SAID BY The prophet Himsel to be called Prophetic Hadith
If U want to know about Child Rapist molestation pedophilia I am sorry to say this But please do READ the bible all Numbers 31:18
Keep all little girls " וכל הטף בנשׁים" alive for yourselves
pedophilia is STONNED CURVED IN THE BIBLE ..NOT the QURAN
Jesusthepalestinian 1 year ago
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jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
Bukhari is the most reliable hadith for Sunnis.
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
@jigglyfidda125
Paul self admitted by (his OWN words) to be the devil in flesh,[ Evil is present within me(Rom 7:16-21]
In a " SIMILAR WAY " Can U provide me with a Quranic text or Hadith said by the Prophet himself(i.e HIS OWN WORDS, OWN WORDING ) NOT Hadith been said by Others .. But Hadith that has his OWN WORDING or ANY QURANIC TEXT that legalized sex with Minor, ....just like YHWH did by making mosses to rape little girls as DIVINE command see Numbers 31:17?
Jesusthepalestinian 1 year ago
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@Jesusthepalestinian hahahah, so many contradictions in your holy texts
fuck pedophile muhammad and fuck arabs
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
@jigglyfidda125 You stated namesm like Sahih Muslim likeSahih Bukhari etc etc
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Ironically the existence of these individuals needed first to be justified where their “authority come from”. !!!!!!
It was certainly Not From Allah and his Messenger.
Therefore their Opinions and Rulings are simply a matter of Invention until they "first proof" the justification for their own existence.
lordjealousisthinker 1 year ago
@lordjealousisthinker Bukhari is the most reliable hadith for Sunnis.
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
@jigglyfidda125
Sorry a Hadith that CONTRADICT the Quran and comply with the bible is NOT an Authentic hadith even if it is in Al Bukhari
The issue of marriage in( Quran" 2:235, 2:231 ) is related to the Al Nisa النساء meaning women NOT little girls .
Messenger would NOT act or legislate things that has NO signature LET ALONE CONTRADICT the Quran [69:44-50].
If U want to know about Child Rapist READ Numbers 31:17-18
pedophilia is n bible NOT QURAN
What is MORE AUTHENTIC THAN QURAN?
lordjealousisthinker 1 year ago
@lordjealousisthinker hahahah, so many contradictions in your holy texts
fuck prophet muhammad and fuck arabs
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
@jigglyfidda125
Really.. Lets see...Jerusalem will have sex or (be shafted) by big Egyptians penises. Ezekiel16:26 ..Is this a promised Prophecy?
What make me believeabout this Prophecy isbecause it is ONLY ..The only Correct fact in the bible, in which any one can attest is ...THE EXISTANCE OF GIGANTIC EGYPTION FAT SHLONG Ezekiel16:26 ....IT IS LONG FAT TALE BUT NOT fairytale
lordjealousisthinker 1 year ago
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so many contradictions in your holy texts
@jigglyfidda125
Sorry but bukhary and other are not Holy books..ONLY Quran
ferju123456 1 year ago
@jigglyfidda125
many contradictions in your holy texts ?!!!!!
But ONLY Quran is the Holy book nothing else
ferju123456 1 year ago
I came across this legitimate proof:
watch?v=dWwNZmqN2Zc
sk71m 1 year ago
first of all aisha was not 6 years old or 9 when she married the best of creation, but at least 17 and according to some researches she was in her 40.
first of all i ame not here to critisize christianity.
but this dousn't fit in the modern world also.
International Standard Version
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"
jesus of the BIBLE is not the PRINCE OF PEACE
according to this biblical verse.
awayger 1 year ago
@awayger Please show us readers this evidence?
BGfromGB 1 year ago
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@BGfromGB
go to here:
realdeen. wordpress. com/ 2006/07/30/real-age-of-hazrat-aisha/
you must offcourse get the two lines together
awayger 1 year ago
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@BGfromGB
go to here:
realdeen. wordpress. com/ 2006/07/30/real-age-of-hazrat-aisha/
you must offcourse get the lines together
awayger 1 year ago
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JESUS ?seekgod.ca/htwhatsinaname.
yolkaable 1 year ago
JESUS ?seekgod.ca/htwhatsinaname.htm
yolkaable 1 year ago
so u think that I should do exactly what my prophet does? no, I should use my mind and my Quran, and then imitate.. and if I did follow his footsteps, I wouldn't be commiting a sin.. just because the aisha instance does not apply now, that doesn't mean that not gona apply forever! virgin Mary married st. joseph very young of age.. and she is the mother of Jesus. and he was sooo much older than her.. she is his mother.. can I take her as a role model in christianity?? is she a good role model??
mohkat1 1 year ago
Mohammad is a supberb role model.. and just because this instant of marriage doesn't apply nowadays that doesn't mean that he's not a good role model! all the other women he married were widows/or divorced.. some of them were older than him!
mohkat1 1 year ago
ur logic is nuts! so by ur logic I should take Jesus as my role model because he wasn't married(or he is a better model) in that particular instant.. but using ur logic then .. Men shouldn't get married if they really thought of Jesus as the role model to follow. you can take somebody as a role model and easily pick what applies to u at this day and age..
mohkat1 1 year ago
how old was mary when she was given to St. Joseph! google it!
mohkat1 1 year ago
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im ex muslim and i tell u ....muhammad didnt gain power when he married to older women... once he got power he went on rampage ...safiah bint huyayy case worst then aysha ..when he killed all her family and married her same night and she was so young and beautiful that he camped there 3 nights
pakijew1 1 year ago
the rain in spain falls mostly on the plains
vealer2 1 year ago
muhammed married a 6 year old girl....you keep saying 9...she was 6 when she was forced to marry muhammed. muhammed tried to fuck her for 3 years and finally got his penis into her vagina when she was 9. muhammed is a pedofile. muhammed raped a child. Dude I think your a pedofile. You support sex with children.....
moonshineinsummer1 1 year ago
Can't believe ............. 56yr old married 6 yr old KID Thats HUGE AGE DIFFERENCE. How could he have done it, Shame on him
Indiansailor 1 year ago
it about as ugly as your propaganda,
shinobiung 1 year ago
actually the little girl muhammad married was six but six or nine its called pedaphilla you moron
micap20078 1 year ago
Jay how can you say muhammad having sex with a 9 year old was culturaly relevent?
mr and misses abu bakr may well have been trying to protect aisha by giving her to the so called prophet but if muhammad managed to become sexualy aroused by a nine year old why is he not a peedo?
if muhammad screwed a man he would be gay.
come on jay call a spade a spade.
are men who have sex with children not peedo's when the rest of the world is doing it?
waddellski 1 year ago
@waddellski She wasn't 9 years old! Follow the 'Dot tk' link on my profile and read the scholarly article. The people don't understand is that Al-Tabari documented each and everything that he heard and that was to ensure that the information is passed to the later generations for research, so that, what is right is established.
Do you know how old was Marry(pbuh) when she conceived Christ??
artistdigital 1 year ago
@artistdigital
I hope you are right but It seems to be a defence by decent human beings who know screwing kids is wrong and they do not want M' to be accused of such attrocities.
More important is what happens now, it needs to be broadcast that M' was not a monster, because little girls are still married off to dirty old muslims on the grounds that Muhamad's marrying a 6 year old is acceptable .
obviously this needs to be challenged
waddellski 1 year ago
@artistdigital
according to scholars ( and tradition) Mary was about 14, in this country (UK) that is still not acceptable, had mary married Muhammad at 14 it would be far more acceptable than if she ware 6 or 9
Christians believe Mary had jesus not by having sex with a man (or God) but rather God performed a miracle and made Mary Pregnant without sex so even if she was 14 there was no man involved
God is not a peadophile by performing a miracle.
(I am glad people are saying aisha was not 9)
waddellski 1 year ago
@waddellski
Do you know how many females, in the UK, lose virginity before turning 14??
Since how long has 14 year old been wed in the UK?? :) Why??
It isn't a matter of hoping! That article is very solid! Ayesha(pbuh), according to some sources was 21, while through other sources, she was 19 etc
Tabari contradicts himself and this is because Tabari fully documented everything that he heard.
artistdigital 1 year ago
uk legal age of consent of a girl is 16,
uk legal marriage is 16.
it is irrelevant what some girls choose to do, the point is men should not screw kids.
and i think that it is good that you are correcting people because many muslims think that marrying kids is ok because they think muhammad did it.
it also makes muhammad look bad.
muhammad looking bad is far less important than children being harmed in this way.
waddellski 1 year ago
@waddellski
Child abuse is going to continue that way. Its more in the West. Evil is going to stay in one form or the other!
artistdigital 1 year ago
@waddellski
Everyone did it back in those days, it was quite normal.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
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@artistdigital For moslim people muhammad's life is the model and they follows what he did in his life. So why not muslim' s people start marrying nine times included marrying with six year old kid. i never saw or heard that practice. This is because it is not possible in real life and is a torture for a 6 year kid. Being as a true prophet he should be a role model not a sick person much greedy to fulfill his sex desire. That is a crimianl acts also in our society which should be opposed.
newrungs 1 year ago
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waddellski 1 year ago
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Pretending Aisha was 9 when she consummated marriage with the Prophet(sws), is a fraud. Numerous facts prove she was 18 to 20, most probably 19 years old.
Jesus(PwH) was one of the most wonderfull exemples for humanity, so do believe all muslims. So was Mohammad(sws).
Moslims who use this gossip as an excuse to marry very young girls are wrong. Aisha was 16 when she was promised for marriage (engaged) &19 when she went living with the Prophet(sws), there is very few doubt about this now.
MichelDardenne 1 year ago
Pretending Aisha was 9 when she consummated marriage with the Prophet(sws), is a fraud. Numerous facts prove she was 18 to 20, most probably 19 years old.
Jesus(PwH) was one of the most wonderfull exemples for humanity, so do believe all muslims. So was Mohammad(sws).
Moslims who use this gossip as an excuse to marry very young girls are wrong. Aisha was 16 when she was promised for marriage (engaged) &19 when she went living with the Prophet(sws), there is very few doubt about this now.
MichelDardenne 1 year ago
@MichelDardenne
Yeah, you are absolutely right but how many people can we correct. There are even those people who believe in a messenger after the Prophet(saw) and call themselves Muslims, some abuse many those who were honored by the Prophet(saw).....
artistdigital 1 year ago
@MichelDardenne Prophet Would not Marry an Underage girl BCOZ the issue of marriage in( Quran" 2:235, 2:231 ) is all defined around the meaning of the "word Al Nisa النساء. it's exclusively refer to "Female above age of puberty حلم &show maturity رشد .Messenger would NOT act or legislate things that has NO signature LET ALONE CONTRADICT the Quran [69:44-50].
If U want to know about Child Rapist READ Numbers 31:17
pedophilia is in bible NOT QURAN
What is MORE AUTHENTIC THAN QURAN?
Jesusthepalestinian 1 year ago 44
@Jesusthepalestinian Wow, I'm wondering how you got 44 thumbs up with a ridiculous comment like this. Read tafsir Ibn Kathir on the verse in question, it says "and those who had not reahced puberty" as an explanation for 'واللائي لم يحضن'...
What is MORE AUTHENTIC THAN QURAN? EVERY OTHER BOOK ON THE PLANET.
attozes 9 months ago
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Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian You're the stupid one here.
According to IBN KATHIR, اللائي لم يحضن means girls who have not reached puberty yet :
يَقُول تَعَالَى مُبَيِّنًا لِعِدَّةِ الْآيِسَة وَهِيَ الَّتِي قَدْ اِنْقَطَعَ عَنْهَا الْمَحِيض لِكِبَرِهَا أَنَّهَا ثَلَاثَة أَشْهُر عِوَضًا عَنْ الثَّلَاثَة قُرُوء فِي حَقّ مَنْ تَحِيض كَمَا دَلَّتْ عَلَى ذَلِكَ آيَة الْبَقَرَة وَكَذَا الصِّغَار اللَّائِي لَمْ يَبْلُغْنَ سِنّ الْحَيْض أَنَّ عِدَّتَهُنَّ كَعِدَّةِ الْآيِسَة ثَلَاثَة أَشْهُر وَلِهَذَ....
attozes 8 months ago
According to IBN KATHIR
@attozes .and Who is IBN KATHER?! He is NOT the Prophet ! where his “authority come from”.
His Invention ie simply a matter of Opinions until he "first proof" the justification of his own existence
Let The Quran Speak for itself .Verse talk about WOMEN نسائكم NOT Girls. Where word (Nisa) in Quran and in other Arabic sources is used for little girls?
If U want to know about Child Rapist READ NUM 31:17
Pedophilia is in bible NOT QURAN
What is MORE AUTHENTIC THAN QURAN?
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian Why are you so fucking stupid? I imagine you have an IQ of 60.
I just gave you proof that the Qu'ran use Nisa as little girls in many many verses.
Also, it's not Ibn Kathir alone. الجلالين also explains it the same way : "...فَعِدَّتهنَّ ثَلَاثَة أَشْهُر وَاَللَّائِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ" لِصِغَرِهِنَّ فَعِدَّتهنَّ ثَلَاثَة أَشْهُر..."
القرطبي says : "...يَعْنِي الصَّغِيرَة فَعِدَّتهنَّ ثَلَاثَة أَشْهُر..."
All big commentators of Islam agree that the verse is talking abot 1 thing.
attozes 8 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian Just for the record, Ibn Kathir is the best commentator of the Qu'ran of all time. All those big scholars of yours to day rely on it. They grew up reading his books.
attozes 8 months ago
All those big scholars of yours to day rely on it.
@attozes
Who made them BIG..U?!!..then Y dont U follow them?
Ironically the existence of those" big scholars of yours" needed first to be justified where their “authority come from”.!!!
It was certainly Not From Allah and his Messenger..
Therefore their Opinions and Rulings are simply a matter of Invention until they "first proof" the justification for their own existence.
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian You fucking moron, read the tafsit before commenting like a prick.
Also, نسائكم doesn't necessarily mean old women, it means females.
Stupid muslim.
attozes 8 months ago
@attozes You Need to Show us that ... STUPID Gentile Dog
Jesusthepalestinian 8 months ago
@Jesusthepalestinian وَإِذْ نَجَّيْنَاكُم مِّنْ آلِ فِرْعَوْنَ يَسُومُونَكُمْ سُوءَ الْعَذَابِ يُذَبِّحُونَ أَبْنَاءَكُمْ وَيَسْتَحْيُونَ نِسَاءَكُمْ ۚ وَفِي ذَٰلِكُم بَلَاءٌ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ عَظِيمٌ
It says : slaughtered your sons and keep your womenfolk alive?
So, the verse says 'your sons' and after that, it says nissa2okom. What does that mean?
attozes 8 months ago