My point is do not bite the hand that feeds you and protects you, otherwise US and Canadian troops will quickly deal with you the way they know the best. No one will ever destroy your culture and heritage, because now their part of Great Russian culture and heritage and we cherish it as our own, but the very people you are appealing to will replace it with Micky Mouse-Fast Food- Hollywood culture. Koran will be banned and you gonna have Bush or Obama avenue like they do in Kosovo now.
The Adyghe first emerged as a coherent entity somewhere around the tenth century A.D., although references to them exist much earlier. They were never politically united, a fact which reduced their influence in the area and their ability to withstand periodic invasions from groups like the Mongols, Avars, Pechenegs, Huns, and Khazars.
Adyghe or Circassians have lived outside the Caucasus region since the Middle Ages. They formed a tradition of joining foreign armies, including those of Persia, Rome, Byzantium, and the Golden Horde. They were particularly well represented in the Mamluks of Turkey and Egypt. In fact, the Burji dynasty which ruled Egypt from 1382 to 1517 was founded by Adyghe Mamluks.
However I do understand what happened, and do grieve the loss of those people, because they became the victims of the war on the Religious grounds Like other North Caucasian peoples, they had adhered to their traditional polytheism ("paganism") and had also been partly Christianized from the early Middle Ages onwards as a result of Byzantine and Georgian influence, but by the 18th century, Islam spreading from the Ottoman Empire had been established as the dominant religion.
There is no legal continuity between the Russian Empire and the modern Russian Federation, and the concept of genocide was only adopted in international law in the 20th century, The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly in December 1948 as General Assembly Resolution 260.
Why? I don't hate all the Circassians or any other nation.. And, as well, i don't think, that Tsarist Russia was the best period of our history (The best periods were Kievan Rus and Soviet Union)
@FalconfromRF Please let my apologise on behalf of brother Meserbee and we don't want to be offensive; however FalconfromRF you do not feel the tragedy of the Circassians nation! about 90% of our nation live in Exile!!!! can you imagine the Russians in Russia are minority!! while 90% of the your people are enforced to live in diaspora!! suppose that the Nazis claims after occuping Russia that Russia belonged to the Japaneese not the Russians ? can you be happy for that ? can you imagine that the
@ShapsougTuapse1864 Russian Language to be unformal language for Russia ? Can you imagine that based on the occupiers Moscow to consider a land for the Slavesti (an example) and Saint Peter to be for the slaveston, and both areas and people are different based on the occupiers, can you imagine that 7 tribes out of 12 , cleansed totally ? and to be happy ? or your history is falsified in a rude way ? we are not against the Russians but against the liars who distort our history,that is .
But, if not many wars and other calamities (if have in mind only events of 20 century!) Russia should have 200-300 millions. Not every tragedy is genocide.
Are World War 1, Holodomor or Irish Famine the examples of genocides?))) I think, no...
However, i not deny the real genocides: Holocaust (Russians are victims of Holocaust, too) and genocide in Rwanda...
Yeah, every nationalist believe, that his nation is best, and have now (or had in past) a period, in which this nation was most civilised nation in world. In 19 century and Russians, and Circassians lived in era of feodalism, Circassians, may be, were more civilised, than Armenians, but not than Slavs.
And, i not deny, that situation in Russia nowadays is not very good: this situation we have since 1991. Yeah, now all even worse, than was in Tsarist Russia.
I said: i not deny Circassian suffering! I just deny the genocide!!!
Ha-ha-ha, 1.5 million of victims. Caucasians, who say about their "genocide", often use this number... I know, not only your nation... However... Death of 1.5 millions and in case with Circassians is imposible, because less Circassians lived in war zone... If we killed such number of Circassians, your nation wouldn't exist!
@FalconfromRF you deny it because your judging is based on your interests not the reality :) there was a genocide:( and we should admit it to live in love and to correct the mistakes of the past! the number of the Circassians before the Russian-Circassians War was similar to Egypt,the number of the Egyptians now is around 80 Millions,and the Circassians in the homeland and exile(50) countries is only 8 Millions! in the best case! so it was a genocide and ethnic cleansing toward the Circassians!
However, Arabs have (and always had) higher population growth, than Caucasians.))) Of course, number of Egyptians now is more, than number of all Caucasians (Circassians, Armenians, Karachays, Balkars, Ingush, Chechens and many other nations).
Of course,as a Circassian, you believe in genocide.)))
@igorvasilevsky Ya very interested :) Propaganda from an official Russian website :), you are stupid or pretend to be :) any way you are not a free man to judge and think out of the perspective of Russian tyranny and lies :) and i don't blame you :P any way i am sure that you will find the truth in a day :) Greeting :)
I'm agree, that there was a bloody war... War always is tragedy. Anyway. But, these events are not a genocide, contrary to allegations. And, i think, past shouldn't be a reason for hate and nationalism.
@FalconfromRF Yes i agree FalconfromRF, it is not hate and nationalism, but it is a struggle with the country that defalse history of the origin of Circassia (All South Krasnodar+Cherkessk+Kabardino+Adygheya) and the Circassians while talking about the peace in the Caucasus! not talking about 95% of the Circassians (Adyghe) live in exile, while encouraging the Cossacks Intruders to live in Circassia :( See now it is not hate , but Justice!
Most of Circassians, who died in 19 century, died by hungers or diseases, caused by war conditions, or when they were leaving Russia, also by these reasons; they were not killed. Died 200-300 thousands of Circassians, and this was no genocide.
Dear FalconfromRF :) how did you know that ? and all the memos of the Russians talked about the opposite ! about an organized approaches to kill the mountaineers ? and to be precise the Circassians. for sure a lot of Circassians died by hangers or diseases too, but in addition it was the Tzars responsibility too :P and as a result it is a genocide if we like it or not :(
I never said, that Russians absolutely didn't kill Circassians... Yes, like the Circassians, we killed our enemies, and in this war Circassians were our enemies. And, sometimes Russians also did things, which now are known as "war crimes", i not deny it.
And, many Circassians died in time of migrations, because Russia wasn't ready for their emigration, and Turkey and other states were not ready for their arriving... Russia didn't exile them.
No Sochi2014!
Ammian100 4 months ago
LETS KICK IT OFF LIKE WE DID IN VANCOUVER!
blackmesa176 7 months ago
Russia will have the Olympics, whether anybody likes this or not. SOCHI IS RUSSIA FOREVER!!!
hondacivic1992 1 year ago
@hondacivic1992 Your a bitch and fuck putin hahaha faggots.
Dragonmanxx5 1 year ago
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MrRobokoper 1 year ago
My point is do not bite the hand that feeds you and protects you, otherwise US and Canadian troops will quickly deal with you the way they know the best. No one will ever destroy your culture and heritage, because now their part of Great Russian culture and heritage and we cherish it as our own, but the very people you are appealing to will replace it with Micky Mouse-Fast Food- Hollywood culture. Koran will be banned and you gonna have Bush or Obama avenue like they do in Kosovo now.
SlavoAryan 2 years ago
@SlavoAryan Hhahahah and you are? No one believe this pussy ass bitch.
Russians are anti Kavkazian. They are against Adyghe people. Because we beat there Cossack and Tsar empires.
So they fleed and ran to get help from east Europe, Georgia, Armenia, Ottoman Empire.
Russians are thieves and liers. This bitch dont feed shit.
Never bow to some bitch russia.
Russians will soon no longer be safe in any country you go to. Our dispersia will work for us for once.
Dragonmanxx5 1 year ago
The Adyghe first emerged as a coherent entity somewhere around the tenth century A.D., although references to them exist much earlier. They were never politically united, a fact which reduced their influence in the area and their ability to withstand periodic invasions from groups like the Mongols, Avars, Pechenegs, Huns, and Khazars.
SlavoAryan 2 years ago
Adyghe or Circassians have lived outside the Caucasus region since the Middle Ages. They formed a tradition of joining foreign armies, including those of Persia, Rome, Byzantium, and the Golden Horde. They were particularly well represented in the Mamluks of Turkey and Egypt. In fact, the Burji dynasty which ruled Egypt from 1382 to 1517 was founded by Adyghe Mamluks.
SlavoAryan 2 years ago
However I do understand what happened, and do grieve the loss of those people, because they became the victims of the war on the Religious grounds Like other North Caucasian peoples, they had adhered to their traditional polytheism ("paganism") and had also been partly Christianized from the early Middle Ages onwards as a result of Byzantine and Georgian influence, but by the 18th century, Islam spreading from the Ottoman Empire had been established as the dominant religion.
SlavoAryan 2 years ago
There is no legal continuity between the Russian Empire and the modern Russian Federation, and the concept of genocide was only adopted in international law in the 20th century, The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly in December 1948 as General Assembly Resolution 260.
SlavoAryan 2 years ago
What Russia did in 19th century was a crime against humanity. Do some research. Stop spreading hate and ignorance.
NartSaga 2 years ago 3
@NartSaga Wow...American citizen's complaining about ingeniousness massacres of the 19th century....how ironic.
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Meserbee 2 years ago
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Meserbee 2 years ago
Why? I don't hate all the Circassians or any other nation.. And, as well, i don't think, that Tsarist Russia was the best period of our history (The best periods were Kievan Rus and Soviet Union)
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
@FalconfromRF Please let my apologise on behalf of brother Meserbee and we don't want to be offensive; however FalconfromRF you do not feel the tragedy of the Circassians nation! about 90% of our nation live in Exile!!!! can you imagine the Russians in Russia are minority!! while 90% of the your people are enforced to live in diaspora!! suppose that the Nazis claims after occuping Russia that Russia belonged to the Japaneese not the Russians ? can you be happy for that ? can you imagine that the
ShapsougTuapse1864 2 years ago 5
@ShapsougTuapse1864 Russian Language to be unformal language for Russia ? Can you imagine that based on the occupiers Moscow to consider a land for the Slavesti (an example) and Saint Peter to be for the slaveston, and both areas and people are different based on the occupiers, can you imagine that 7 tribes out of 12 , cleansed totally ? and to be happy ? or your history is falsified in a rude way ? we are not against the Russians but against the liars who distort our history,that is .
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Meserbee 2 years ago 3
But, if not many wars and other calamities (if have in mind only events of 20 century!) Russia should have 200-300 millions. Not every tragedy is genocide.
Are World War 1, Holodomor or Irish Famine the examples of genocides?))) I think, no...
However, i not deny the real genocides: Holocaust (Russians are victims of Holocaust, too) and genocide in Rwanda...
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
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Meserbee 2 years ago
Yeah, every nationalist believe, that his nation is best, and have now (or had in past) a period, in which this nation was most civilised nation in world. In 19 century and Russians, and Circassians lived in era of feodalism, Circassians, may be, were more civilised, than Armenians, but not than Slavs.
And, i not deny, that situation in Russia nowadays is not very good: this situation we have since 1991. Yeah, now all even worse, than was in Tsarist Russia.
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
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phucha007 2 years ago
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I said: i not deny Circassian suffering! I just deny the genocide!!!
Ha-ha-ha, 1.5 million of victims. Caucasians, who say about their "genocide", often use this number... I know, not only your nation... However... Death of 1.5 millions and in case with Circassians is imposible, because less Circassians lived in war zone... If we killed such number of Circassians, your nation wouldn't exist!
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
@FalconfromRF you deny it because your judging is based on your interests not the reality :) there was a genocide:( and we should admit it to live in love and to correct the mistakes of the past! the number of the Circassians before the Russian-Circassians War was similar to Egypt,the number of the Egyptians now is around 80 Millions,and the Circassians in the homeland and exile(50) countries is only 8 Millions! in the best case! so it was a genocide and ethnic cleansing toward the Circassians!
ShapsougTuapse1864 2 years ago 3
However, Arabs have (and always had) higher population growth, than Caucasians.))) Of course, number of Egyptians now is more, than number of all Caucasians (Circassians, Armenians, Karachays, Balkars, Ingush, Chechens and many other nations).
Of course,as a Circassian, you believe in genocide.)))
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
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Meserbee 2 years ago
There was only one genocide of Caucasian nation - genocide against Ossetians by Georgia (1920)!!!
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
Propagandists will find any pretext to blackmail the target and to perform a political order ;)
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
@igorvasilevsky Ya very interested :) Propaganda from an official Russian website :), you are stupid or pretend to be :) any way you are not a free man to judge and think out of the perspective of Russian tyranny and lies :) and i don't blame you :P any way i am sure that you will find the truth in a day :) Greeting :)
ShapsougTuapse1864 2 years ago 2
I'm agree, that there was a bloody war... War always is tragedy. Anyway. But, these events are not a genocide, contrary to allegations. And, i think, past shouldn't be a reason for hate and nationalism.
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
@FalconfromRF Yes i agree FalconfromRF, it is not hate and nationalism, but it is a struggle with the country that defalse history of the origin of Circassia (All South Krasnodar+Cherkessk+Kabardino+Adygheya) and the Circassians while talking about the peace in the Caucasus! not talking about 95% of the Circassians (Adyghe) live in exile, while encouraging the Cossacks Intruders to live in Circassia :( See now it is not hate , but Justice!
ShapsougTuapse1864 2 years ago
Most of Circassians, who died in 19 century, died by hungers or diseases, caused by war conditions, or when they were leaving Russia, also by these reasons; they were not killed. Died 200-300 thousands of Circassians, and this was no genocide.
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
Dear FalconfromRF :) how did you know that ? and all the memos of the Russians talked about the opposite ! about an organized approaches to kill the mountaineers ? and to be precise the Circassians. for sure a lot of Circassians died by hangers or diseases too, but in addition it was the Tzars responsibility too :P and as a result it is a genocide if we like it or not :(
ShapsougTuapse1864 2 years ago
I never said, that Russians absolutely didn't kill Circassians... Yes, like the Circassians, we killed our enemies, and in this war Circassians were our enemies. And, sometimes Russians also did things, which now are known as "war crimes", i not deny it.
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
And, many Circassians died in time of migrations, because Russia wasn't ready for their emigration, and Turkey and other states were not ready for their arriving... Russia didn't exile them.
FalconfromRF 2 years ago
See your e-mail :P and check Krasno Polyana website :)
ShapsougTuapse1864 2 years ago
Retards...
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
Fuck off igorvasilevsky :) Greeting to John & Tamara from Jordan
ShapsougTuapse1864 2 years ago
@ShapsougTuapse1864 No, F*** you, poor propagandistic liar)
Lie will never have results, remember it. People are not idiots.
Cheers.
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
@igorvasilevsky Get lost racist genocide denier!
NartSaga 2 years ago 5