MW3 RANGE and DAMAGE Weapon Proficiency Test (Modern Warfare 3)

[xXselfstarXx]

damage is a lot more better than range

[C0zz1e]

Damage is better

[MultiBiggie007]

nice test :)

[Tukesieni]

U didn't use guns like UMP45 and MP7

[sother2]

For the shotgun- You are hitting him straight on. No factors to miss. Range cna help if they're farther yeah, but damage makes sure the stray shots STILL hurt.

[taiga97]

Ok, so what happens when your shotguns DOESN'T kill at SHORT distance....? Damage, I think?

[gh382]

all the shotguns are differnt sorry ur shotgun test is invalid check Drifters

[jona4176]

good test! subscribed!

[READ986]

This test is invalid. Who the hell is gonna stand still and let you kill them online? Your not going to always hit them point blank which is the only way you'll kill them with gay range. With damage you could barely hit them and still het the kill.

[SeraphianKnight]

@READ986 That doesn't automatically make it invalid -.-

[1dislob3i]

MAN I just subscribed to you and i regret i didint before. Keep up the good work.

[OriginElite]

'YOLO' What a fucking faggot.

[Rackzify]

Damage for pump actions and range for semi-automatics :D

[SirCharlesDeKoy]

damage is better for killing juggs. Also damage gives you a better chance to kill an enemy with the side of the shell spray. That is if you don't hit them dead in the chest. Especially for shottys with wide spray i.e. AA-12 and Striker. You can almost kill them by shooting beside them.

[Tenacious92]

But when using the specialist perks, damage is better than range because when you get specialist bonus you receive range as well. If you use range from the beginning you wont get the damage prof from specialist.

[NarutosDemonForm]

Why not test it out on a Juggernaut?

[systemdude29]

UMP45 silenced with range + Steady aim hardline and SOH + Specialist Package = Easy mode MOABS!!!

[chives441]

"OW OW OW" XD

[Drum4evr22]

i thought damage was for snipers too *FACEPALM*

[MrVMNA]

STFU



[SuperMrRoxas]

! check out my vids

[LaV0lpe]

Xcal owns you

[MonsterHunter971]

Drift0r proved you wrong

[rdavi054]

Please do a bigger sample size on this because it will not always be a one shot due to the spread. Thanks

[XspaceGraphicTuts]

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[iNHuMaNzProductions]

check my channel out plz. thnx

[Sylvanaris]

I like what your doing here, but like many others damage is far better for shotguns. I want the one shot kill more often than I want a medium range kill. In gun fights the person who dies faster loses. So 1 shot < range/2 shot

[StealthUAV]

Did you cover that with the shotgun, when you use extended mag's it gives you an extra 12 pellets then without?

[16JohnBonham]

damage is the best on every shotgun EXCEPT the striker. thats the only one that i feel does well without damage.

[mranaya92]

striker with range FTW

[TastyPieyay]

damage is better than range

[jaymanwilly]

yeah but how often does a shotgun kill in one shot more often i hate to take two shots up close

[SuperDjPap]

I think it depends on your gameplay stile

[hyafire123]

Will there a difference in this whole recording the enemy is not shooting back now redo the video and it will show you damage is better then range

[zythd]

Can you redo this video Tmartn?

Because of the shotgun buff? Stuff might have changed :)

[JJB22109]

complete bullshit

[TheJosh0627]

at 2:30 through 2:35 anyone else here someone say ow?

[Ispoil4yuN1]

does damage help to kill jugs faster?

[ImNookeG]

@Ispoil4yuN1 YES! 

[Ispoil4yuN1]

@ImNookeG i dont use shottys but do you know how much faster/easier it is to kill jugs with damage?

[joshcowman]

tmart, how about how damage helps you if you are a bit off target.. like how many pellets actually need to hit target without vs with damage...

Damage is really helpful for making those non perfect shots still a one shot..

[DoneByMrD]

It takes me 2 shots to kill with the spas from point blank range :/

[giokiwi]

I think range is best in shotguns u can shoot a lot of shots fast (aa12 and striker) because u have many shots that to get the kill.

And damage is best with the pump actions (spas and ksg and model 1887)because since u pump u need the one shot kill . For the USAS12 either could work well it's more to personal choice .

[316Zico]

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[franksanatraspants]

or use specialist and get both...

[RiVaLrYShiftzOG]

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[lildeeze101]

i cant like comments i wont live thsi vid cmon lets revolt :D

[916Commentaries]

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[Crickmasta]

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[nightmike64]

337000<3

[ilegadh]

I hate Interchange..

[TheMatze1001]

@ilegadh who doesn't ?

[ilegadh]

@TheMatze1001 your mom.

[extendedmovie1]

i luv ur vids



[SuicidalSheep83]

Range is better for the pump/lever action shotguns but for shotguns like the Striker, AA12 and the USAS you are better off with damage since you can unload shells easily

[Backstabber1313]

Which one for ksg

[Yplayboy51Y]

@Backstabber1313 I have the ksg in gold and i think range is better

[xxwilliam1998xx]

@Yplayboy51Y nah damage is better IMO

[ItsBuckful]

This is assuming you hit them directly like in the test. A lot of shotgun shots dont directly hit people and only skim them, so in that case is damage better?

[Dilsoc]

I could hear em talkin hahahaha at ouch ouch haha

[youngdevil241]

whats to say the small amount of time you wait in between shots doesn't allow them to recover enough health to survive an extra bullet or two

[dustykeys2]

what if you don't hit centre mass?? wouldn't damage be better?

[jelle1234510]

You should test damage on (semi)automatic shotguns

[turboturtle1234]

I always like to put damage on to my pump action shotguns, and I put range on auto shotguns. Damage is good for close range, and range is good for med range.

[XezatSurgate]

This video is bullshit. Use Damage on every shotgun but the AA-12.

[Pilot853]

If the MP5 takes 3 hits at a middle distance with range compared to 5 hits without, it will kill exactly twice as fast (assuming all shots hit).

[LeoCreu96]

Yea but spas 12 without damage suck.

[Zertiof]

It was luck that the pellets hit him and got a 1 shot kill with range

[ThePlayer999999]

Extended mags+damage

[puppy4200]

does range help with silencers.. or does it cut off? 

[JakobCocking]

I use range on my striker/aa12 and damage on the others cause i don't snipe people with a model.

[StewWayDrive]

Damage helps you to kill if not all of the pellets hit your target. You can get a glancing shot but the 75% damage increase will make it lethal. In short, damage makes your shotgun more consistant, which is what i look for in a gun.

[SOB3IT]

@StewWayDrive I'm pretty sure it's a 40% increase. 75% would be way OP...Just like how stopping power did 40%.

[KungaTV]

yeh cus while playing everyone is standing still and all your pellets hit.. idiot

[FPSgriffy]

did you see Boo's vid?

[frenchpanda9999]

WHAT IF U ADS????????????

[Mr21297]

Hahahah good 1..it doesnt matter cuz it will be a 1shot no matter what..yeah right....

[revilo412]

What about when you spin, and only catch a guy with half the pellets?

All your tests were pointed directly at the target, but there are corners and people can sneak behind you in the game.

[98mixalhs]

@revilo412 what happens when you miss a guy with smg? you score 0 damage but you can easily hit spraying around him, same goes for shotguns you should not miss XP

[revilo412]

@98mixalhs Just saying in the real game damage is better.

Sure in the setup here range seems more useful but in the game no-one is 100% accurate, so the tests are a bit redundant.

[Rowad4321]

I feel like im in science class

[CubanCODmaster1995]

TmarTn suck a dick and be a man and try your bogus theory in a non private match. You got a dude standing fucking still on your host.

[MrJazztobak]

@CubanCODmaster1995 yes because trying these kinds of things out in a real match would of course have the same level accuracy and the quality of the test would't be affected at all

[jdmfreak92]

@CubanCODmaster1995 You're an idiot. He does them in private matches so he can be more accurate with his claims. If he did it in a public match it would be much more difficult to do the same task.

[CascadeFreak]

@CubanCODmaster1995 YOU WANT SUCK A DICK!!!!

[TopRated123]

BooMan61 !!!

[megabrout]

@TopRated123

lol WOOOOt booman FTW

[razgrizinferno]

Cool, now all the people who actually believe this will be using range, and I can smear them across the walls with damage.

[sillentskills]

I don't know about this one. Damage outclasses range for shotguns easily.

I love my spas to death and always end up using it silenced. I figured that range proficiency would compensate for the range penalty of the silencer, so I had range the proficiency. Two to three shots up close. Once I added damage, I was getting consistent one shots on people up close and 2-3 shots at slightly further distance. Any farther than that and it's suicide anyway.

SMGs I don't use, so I can't relate.

[PS3FanboyBunny]

Booman sent mee!

[chessicles99]

at 2:30, does anyone else hear "ow. ow."

[coltdfg]

Shotguns are fairly inconstant as each shell shoots so many pellets and these pellets are not very predictable. this can make a shotgun very inconsistent even at a few meters. Damage helps deal with this problem as each pellet does more damage. Therefore you only need to hit them with a few pellets to kill. If you really have a big problem with not one shotting the enemy at slightly further range use the model 1887

[w4ld4]

Thats not correct, because with damage you kill ur enemy even with a grazing shot. without damage u prolly need 2 or more shots

[speederc22]

@w4ld4 there ya go, thats the main difference between damage and range. If u have perfect accuracy, use range, if u dont, use damage.

[tiimo881]

ha nice joke: SPAS-12 kills with one shot at close range.

[TheCpten]

@tiimo881 It has been nerfed now.. thats why.

[ImaNativeMexicano]

I personally disagree :/ if you watch my videos you'll see i use primarily shotguns and from personal experience damage comes in handy alot more, unless your using the AA-12, your talking like your going to be exactly on target everyshot, and your using extended mags so the spas has 9 pellets instead of six (this is now patched) now in a close range POV your not going to be on target every single time making damage much more forgiving (and im almost positive your dont get damage with specialist)

[TheKeeper1979]

Good video. I use range on my SMG and assumed it helped with long range shots good to know that's not the case. Keep up the good work and thanks again.

[WiCkEdBeAsT18]

i know you tested this and you got great results but you did this in a private match next to a dummy, when online you dont have dummys like this, i understand that both are good and your test was great but online its not as easy to kill someone like this

[NickOwnageB]

Can you do this test again? Coz there's been an Patch..

[hrdkorsk8tr]

hahaha xcal pissed all over this video hahahah

[MrChrismink]

good but i use range all the time

[hrhitter92]

Here's a question: Do you get the proficiency that someone had when you pick up their gun? EX. If someone has an MP5 with kick, dies, and I pick up that MP5

[GunZmaster223]

i like the damage better then the range mostly becuz when i use shotguns like the spas12 without damage, i just nicked him and he gets away and kills me.. with damage, just "nicked" him will also kill...

[PoPfan108SW]

Cool. Now factor in lag, movement and view kick.

[kefibulb]

Good. Now add that the player is moving, you're being shot by an attack helicopter and compensation lag.

[AguynamedDon]

Range-Damage

[Vimtox]

This has made me question your other videos when you say "Range is BY FAR the best proficiency for shotguns".

I mainly use the model and spas and both benefit more from damage than from range.

At the distance you showed you can hit with range I would even attempt to attack them. 5 shots is pointless. I would flank, get close or run away in that situation so the extra distance you get is pointless. Damage is better and close to medium range (the only range worth using a shotgun at)

[Parkwaydrive1220]

Even with the recent buff shotguns are still WAYY to unreliable even at close range, its almost like we are being forced to use damage, and ive never seen anyone consistently kill from that distance even with range, because target and player are moving around

[LordMinning]

I've gotten tons of hitmarks when I've been close to the enemy, because some of the pellets miss, so I think the damage proficiency helps out a lot more than the range.

[LIVEWIREHANCOCK]

Damage > range

[xxxmynameisbobxxx1]

Model is Nowhere is googd as the spas

[smhatman]

@xxxmynameisbobxxx1 nice sentence structure.

[WhySoGypC]

this is in a private match. go out and use it in a real game and gimme ur answer.

[TouchablePeanut]

@WhySoGypC Came back from booman's video? :P

[Hous3andGam3s]

You should test that with the striker, because damage is useful with it since in short range if you don't aim the enemy perfectly you won't kill him with only one shot with range :)

[icehawks95]

which is better spas-12 or model 1887?

[downwithGEICO]

@icehawks95 model

[YakkoRebelGunz]

@icehawks95 Spas.

[TheMrGnomeragn]

@icehawks95 technically its model, but old time players love the spas

[LIVEWIREHANCOCK]

@TheMrGnomeragn what the f does that mean

[dchuskies2]

Damage does reduce up close hit markers

[daweirdodude]

gay song at the end

[HybRidSpectre]

Go TmarTn. Boo 12awinstinct

[justinhoman]

@HybRidSpectre 12awinstinct is a tool. He has stats that are incorrect in his videos. Take the AS50 vs Barrett .50 video. He says both have a body damage multiplier of x1.0 making OHK in the body, when the sniper only does 98dmg making 98x1 not equaling 100dmg to kill. Sniper body multipliers are x1.1 lol

[SpielSnipinHD]

Can you make a color correction tut?? PLEASE!

[SpielSnipinHD]

Color Correction settings?? Please reply back!!

[TheRealJakexzz]

Spas-12, one hit kill close-up. SURE AS HELL NOT FOR ME! SPAS-12 BARREL STUFF 2 HITS!

[sk8snowbro]

striker is better with damage

[summeriswarm]

only tested one gun.... also you have to do multiple takes because shotguns can be random sometimes

[fiveoclock8888]

2:30 "ow Ow OW" Listen!

[BoomyGT]

It really depends on th shotgun you're using. As 'weused2bestoned' said, the model 1887 is best with damage. Any pump action such as spas or ksg also would best benefit from damage. Having range on a pump is nothing if you keep getting hitmarkers. But on striker, i'd say range would be best. Oh, and another thing, if you plan on using range, you need accuracy or else the pellets from the shotgun will spread more and extra range is useless so use grip+steady aim

[weused2bestoned]

sorry but I think damage wins, I can only really vouch for the 1887 but it gets you a lot more 1 shot kills. The striker can go either way, but if you want to kill people at a close/med range damage all the way. maybe it works better with other shotguns.. i'll find out eventually.

[bluesharkairsoft1]

thumbs up if boo sent you here! :D

[BlazingChimera]

i think the damage does help since in a gun fight, you aren't going to be standing still like the "dummy" was in this test

and the range for a shotgun is somwhat strange to me since a shotgun isn't made to be shot from that far

[Wangpi3ce]

@BlazingChimera They put range to increase the shotgun range, because it needs it. Shotguns in real life half extraordinary range. It may be less accurate at longer ranges, but you are still shooting lead.

[BlazingChimera]

@Wangpi3ce but heres the thing, if u r in a gun fight, is ur opponent going to stand still and let all those pelets kill him or strafe around and only let a fraction of those pellets hit him?

with damage it increases ur chances in killing him/her on ur first shot when they're moving

[XxTriikShotZz]

Range can be better with certain shotties with shorter ranges. However, Damage is the better pick with almost every shotgun because even though you dont get that extra range boost, you'll get less hitmarkers at closer range.

[Stormthorn67]

This video fails to take several things into account with shotguns. Like that some shotguns have longer inherent ranges or higher inherent damages. The shotguns have been patches. Also, with shotguns, you can have some, but not all, of the pellets hit. In which case Damage improves the odds of the shot still killing while Range does jack shit.

[LongLastImage]

how does it work with the silencer?

[Raicun27]

I love range for the Shot Guns.

Can anyone help a little? I use the P90, and I'm trying to decide the best proficiency for it. From the video is looks like range is a solid option, but I also have stability on it right now. Which would be the better option, or is there a different proficiency thats better than both?

[megamanfan765]

@Raicun27 Use the pp90 proficiency. 

[OmfgDef]

@Raicun27 Well you should also look at Attachments (Ext. Mags + Rapid Fire/Suppressor) and Focus. The P90 is honestly the most adaptable SMG, so it really doesn't matter what Proficiency you use with it.

[TheXChrisHD]

@Raicun27 Stability is good on sniper's and LMG's, give the P90 range/focus/kick?

[Legion560]

Which proficiency would be better for the USAS? Damage or Range?

[OmfgDef]

@Legion560 Post patch, Range is probably the better Proficiency, but with the Specialist package, I heartily recommend Damage.

[SNIFER4T]

for all those noobs out there that dislike the vid cause it dont work just think its fckn patched

[JustForFun119]

Different shotguns means different results, ummm... can you try the other shotguns too ?

[joebro117]

range can be better in a lot of things... but damage is better for less acurateshots... if you test it out, you'll see.

[lenkoje]

SMjizz



[stinkybox66]

damage is better with me cause i used to use the striker and just jump into people's faces

[BoomyGT]

Actually, sorry if I sound like a douche, but it's not 'no matter what' it is a one shot kill up close. Because what if you hit them lower and it doesnt kill? Shotguns shoot pellets. i believe spas 12 shoots 8 pellets per shot. Each pellet does a certain amount of damage based on the distance of enemy, and where you hit. Let's say all 8 pellets hit a guy in the chest is always a one shot kill. But another time, one pellet hits the legs and its just a hitmarker.

Not trying to be a douche.

[xTDAxMattypwnz]

Damage is better with specialist as you get the range prof and not the damage prof, but if you already have damage you get both.

[BoomyGT]

@xTDAxMattypwnz thank you so much i always use specialist and knew about proficiencies you earn but never knew that specifically.

[xTDAxMattypwnz]

@BoomyGT no problem, you earn speed, range, kick, stability and melee... ps3 or xbox? add me both. XBL: Mattypwnz95 PSN: Mattypwnz 10th on ps3 only lvl 15 on xbox.

[burn2ground]

Your forgetting the fact that if you don't hit the guy with all the pellets it will still kill them with damage, but not with range.

[R1CKR0LL911]

USAS 12 - Range

KSG-12 - Damage

Spas-12 - Damage

AA-12 - Range

Striker - Range

Model 1887 - Damage

[OmfgDef]

@R1CKR0LL911 I agree on all of them except the SPAS. The long range pellet damage on it is so pitiful, so you should try to use Range to make the maximum damage go farther.

[quoang]

Damage is the best proficiency

[callmeTruman]

did anyone hear at 3:36 when he got hit with the spas he was like ow...ow...ow... hahaha

[matthijsinator]

damage is better on an AA12

[Richard449711]

the red tiger and blue tiger camo makes a diffrence

[AroundWayOtherThe1]

@Richard449711 which one is better... I'm assuming red just curios to why