Ivan's Powered Paraglider Crash in Holland Michigan

[lineman55]

Ran into his own prop wash..simple

[naveenshanv]

Theend004500 nuff Said 

[blar31]

Well, bad idea to return on your pathway with risks of taking your own turbulence at this height. Many pilots doesn't care about turbulences who can still dangerous for 2 minutes and more. Lots of accidents occurs when everybody are playing around and forget these risks of collapsing thru sillage turbulances.

[eb352mm]

that really wasnt a stunt, nonetheless the safety envelope is extremely small with paragliders and the fatality/injury rate is extremely high to considering how few paragliders there really are

[hammernut28]

You are so right! People open there mouths without

ingaging there brains. If you havn't done the sport you

have no right talking bad about the sport. I have never

hanglided myself but I would love to try it. But I understand

there is danger in any sport too. Thanks for your comment!

[SimGameIt]

All sports have risks. Some just have more than others. Ive flown with Ivan. Hes a good pilot. I dont fly PPG yet but i fly fixed wing ultralights. If i start flying PPG ill have Jiri Sindler instruct me. But no matter how good the instructor, how good the pilot, or how good the equipment things happen.

We all know the risk even with fixed wings. We do it because of our love of aviation. But its kinda stupid for those dishing out the insults when they dont know anything about what happened.

[Bobthepilotguy]

at 0:28 it looks like the wind indicator at the very edge of the screen and the windsock are not giving the same wind direction, a classic sign of windshear. Maybe caused by thermal activity? Glad there was no injury. Makes me think twice about flying ppg when it is later in the day. Good video.

[winterka100]

If it collapsed at 100 ft he would be dead meat. He should take the hint and fly a trike or any other real aircraft. Either that or always fly over a lake so that the inevitable crash would be softer.

[ardvarkkkkk]

@winterka100 The problem is with the "chute. They have gone to ever higher aspect ratio for performance but the trade off is a higher incidence of collapse and twisting up with no hope of re inflating. The old low aspect "chutes were much safer.

[winterka100]

@ardvarkkkkk I understand that. To me,that is too much a high price to pay for extra performance. These paragliders are in a zone of total unpredictability much like higher levels of river rafting etc. There is no science or physics formula that can overcome this area.Maybe a paraglider pilot will set me straight on how to overcome such a collapse at 50 to 150 ft with total confidence of no injury or death.

[ardvarkkkkk]

@winterka100 I agree with you that it is not worth it. I don't believe there is anything you can do but watch the conditions and hope your luck does not run out. Personally, I'll stick with my DC5. Lower performance but you can wad it up in a ball and it will straiten itself out and re inflate.

[FSXISCOOL]

freakiin death traps!

[Ayerstairs]

Noisy death trap, Bro.

[strangerx1]

he lost speed to zero wng stall zero lift

[armandin2048]

Take the slowest and most boring aircraft in the world and stick a motor on it as you cannot thermal - and the twatt still can't fly - give up and take up jnitting oromething that you can handle for fucks sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hammernut28]

Don't knock it unless you have tried it.

[armandin2048]

@hammernut28 I fly hangliders in the Spanish Pyrenees (where I now live), I have previously also flown sailplanes in the UK. - Both have VNE velocities around 100mph, make use of thermals, ridge, wave and convergence conditions to stay up and are capable of flights of between 500 - 1,000 km.

[armandin2048]

@hammernut28 The paraglider is the slowest form of aviation (I fly with loads in Spain) - but is at least cheap and has the challenge of using thermals etc.. But that is apparently too "dangerous", "interesting" for some people who feel the need to bolt a noisy underpowered 2 stroke engine on it.

If you can't even fly a paraglider without an engine, you really do not have the requisite skills to be in aviation - do us all a favour ang restrict your flying to airline seats!!!!!

[geezer279]

@armandin2048

you complete tree huging cock!!!!!!!!!!!

[armandin2048]

@geezer279 Tree hugging cock? - possibly, Pilot? definitely, powered human kite operator? never - go back to building model aircraft you pathetic little sphincter sucking testicle!

[bikemech121]

Looks like the glider was trimmed to a low angle of attack (short front lines) as it had a lot of speed on. I also wonder if a speed system was used right at the moment of collapse as the pilot lifts his legs. Perhaps the speed system was hooked up somehow thus causing the reduced angle of attack.

[reinerr16]

0:32 ^^

[tailwheelflier]

here s what happened,,somebody had eaten at an "all you can eat beans" restraunt,,,,,,had a bit of gas,,,,and whooph,,,,canopy collapse,,,happened to me once while I was in Vietnam putting carpet on the ceilings of fighter jets,,

[freidenki]

at any rate the unexpected asymetric collaps happens not one second after the pilot retracts his feet and sits back.

[TheNovaAxon]

It seems to me that he lifts his feet from the speedsystem and got immediatly a asymetrical frontstall. But I wasn't there...

[n49945]

This is why hang gliders are way better ^_^

[lineman55]

Watching his flight pattern, I would say he rentered his wake just a bit to soon... glad your ok!

[FlyBoy77]

Perhaps he flew through his own wing wake?

[ultraflight4471]

Was there some trees behind the camera? Rotors? It did'nt appear that there was alot of wind from the wind socks. I fly my wing way on the heavy side. At least he had a good attitude about it as this stuff happens from time to time.

[flightjunkie250]

pilots left there are a few small hangers, a road and some trees. But directly in the path he was flying, there wasnt obstructions for at least 2000 feet. But even at that, the wind wasnt blowing enough to make rotors like that. Late morning flying combined with crossing a ashphalt taxiway may have started a small thermal...contributing to the incident. Hard to say all the "what ifs" and no real idea what happened. He bent his cage back out, and flew later that day though.

[hammernut28]

ryan your a puss! Don't knock the sport until you try it. There is a video called risk and reward. Watch it! Ivan knew the risk of flying in the middle of the day.

It wasn't the first time it had happened to him. If you get proper instruction and use that knowledge you receive, You should never have this problem as long as you follow the rules about flying. 1 Watch the weather! 2 Watch the weather! 3 Get proper instruction from a certified instructor.

[Orcca]

No momento 0:34 o piloto que já estava de pé para o pouso, volta a sentar na selete e leva o pé ao estribo ou acelerador e "pimba", toma a fechada.

Robelio Orcca

Saquarema-Rio de Janeiro

(Brasil)

[geneland]

did he hit prop wash? what causes this?

[mnpd007]

That wing folded so suddenly I found myself looking for the wire that it must have hit.

[ParaglidingUnlimited]

Hello all,

Just for clarification. This video has been edited and it is not whole. The pilot re-entered tight pattern few times so it created strong presence of the prop wash in combination with weather.

In addition, for the "generals" after the battle...There was no time to neither even realize what is happening nor even react to it in time. I believe that the pilot did best what he could and that was go to idle or reach for kill switch and try to survive.

[birdyboy500]

I was the one that videotaped the crash, and no the video had not been edited. I had filmed all that transpired just before the accident. When he attempted to land, he went right over a taxiway. The taxiway created a thermal which collapsed his wing. Had he tried landing 20 feet farther ahead, above the grass, he would have landed safely. Ivan tried landing too early because his car was parked right next to the taxiway. He just didn't want to walk back to his car. Prop wash... not a chance!

[ParaglidingUnlimited]

@birdyboy500 I did not mean that the video was edited the way that would be miss leading but it is not whole. the pilot did few circles / patterns at the same altitude prior what we can see in this video here and that most likely helpted with creation pretty strong mechanical turbulence.

[stainlesslobster]

Sorry to see that Ivan. Hope your okay. Had a blast with you guys in the everglades.(Where's Barbie lol)Well I am a pilot now got some good flights under my belt.Hope I never experiance that.

[bortek666]

Ruki-Nogi celi?

[totalkarband]

It is a Nirvana Alix.

[martialou666]

que c est il passé??

[murrayhay]

The general presumption will be that the pilot is coming in to land... but look at about 00:34 (JUST prior to the asymmetrical) and you will notice the pilot 'retract his undercarriage' (lift his feet) and sit back, this makes me think he is about to do a "low approach and 'go around'...." certainly by 00:35 the pilot (full power?) is WELL ahead of the wing....

[flytheskyvic]

Hi Murray - yes indeed looks like a power-up which increased AoA beyond limits. But he is unlucky though - he must have been close to critical anyway as the forward "swing" of pilot under suddenly increased power is only small. Any tips for avoidance on this one?

[murrayhay]

I still need to get video shot of me doing this but I've flown PG's for years holding 50-75% aysmetrics (not exactly the same as when not held) and the key is to maintain eye contact with the horizon and control YAW with the 'live' brake. The main advice for this clip is ease OFF any brake on the landing approach!

[foroparapente]

murray always the general after the battle

[robrechtvdb]

Was he using his speedbar?

[carlucet]

Hi,

Could you telle use the name of the paragliding?

Thank you for that.

Regards,

Carlucet

[robrechtvdb]

Was he using his speedbar?

[444paraflyer]

Glad to see that Ivan "The Crazy Russian" is Ok. I told him last time we met; "First you land, THEN you fold up your wing!"

Paul

Dayton

[Bamoman]

hey Ivan, glad your OK

Gilligan

[artimax01]

Must have been rotor? Or an old wing!

[Flyfever]

Shit! What on earth caused that collapse? It appeared to be a smooth approach. Did the pilot encounter some kind of rotor?

[Engine272]

Dude...who was videotaping that? He must be a professional:)