VXL SUMMIT, How to

[cmijn1]

Approx how much was the twin vxl setup altogether?

[mempey]

@cmijn1 The prices are in the description.

[MrSkylinenightkid]

Awesome video, but I think it's the wrong part # on the pinion gears. Should it not be #TRX 3949 in 32pitch 19T pinion gear ? The #TRX 2419 is in 48pitch. The SUMMIT'S original pitch on the spur is 32pitch.

[cmijn1]

Thanks for replying so fast

[cmijn1]

Is it 100% waterproof?

[mempey]

Sure is.

[mrharleyman09]

i didnt think so,,i kinda figured they were full o shit ,,thanks bro...im doin it and will update a video on it when do..working on a rear boom for my summit now so will have a video up tomorrow or next day.

[mrharleyman09]

I've heard that running a brushless motor backwards constantly actually causes it to over heat and thermal shutdown,,is that a problem you or jetlag or anyone else u know of had with this setup?...I'm really thinking about doing it to mine..

[mempey]

@mrharleyman09 Neither of us have had any problem whatsoever. I really disagree with what you have heard. The motor is designed to go either way, it does not matter what direction, the motor does not know the difference.

[richandiben]

Is it essential to have an esc for each motor?

[mempey]

@richandiben Yes

[gtadude24245]

If you put one to 50/100 will the other one change???

[mempey]

I guess so.

[luminaracer]

i was wondering if you have a problem with it cogging like unsensored brushless motors do, because i do alot of low speed crawling and i was just curious

[mempey]

It does cogg a little but it isn't a big deal to me. If I want to do some serious crawling, I just get one of my Axials out and run it.

[kaivanfreak]

do it have 2 gears or only one because of the twin vxl?

[mempey]

The Transmission is the same, 2 speed and locking diffs.

[kaivanfreak]

@mempey cool :D

[dedblow]

So, you went from the Mamba to the twin VXL. Did your waterproofing on the mamba fail? Or do you have more than one Summit?

[mempey]

Yes the waterproofing failed and I ruined the Castle Esc. I went with the VXL since it is waterproof, it runs great.

[crackpot261]

twin vxl or mamba monster?

[mempey]

@crackpot261 I have no idea what you are asking. Use a full sentence please.

[crackpot261]

@mempey i mean is it better to have two vxls on the summit or a mamba monster

[mempey]

@crackpot261 Really the only reason why I put the Twin VXL setup in there is because it is waterproof. I think the Mamba is a bit faster but the Summit was born to get wet.

[20214415]

Great video!!

How does it do for slow rock crawling? Does it cog or surge at low speeds?

I think u already touched on this, but do u think a single vxl 3500 system could power a summit? If u were to try what gearing would u use to prevent overheating? What battery setup would u use for a single setup?

Thanks in advance for any questions u can answer!

[mempey]

@20214415 It does cog but it really isn't the best rock crawler anyway. I would be a little afraid of just using one vxl. I think that the gearing change would make it a little better as far as running temp but the Summit is an awfully big truck for such a little motor. I have a single vxl in my E-Maxx and it gets pretty warm.

[solobender]

does it still have locking diffs

[mempey]

@solobender Yes, why wouldn't it.

[jason28w]

dude you are so badass thank you for makeing this video .

[mempey]

lol, thanks. you are welcome.

[MultiDookey]

Speed run! Please?

[mempey]

I'm working on it, might be a while though. Pretty busy lately.

[TheMagicmole77]

You swap the motor leads not the battery leads. if you swap the battery leads the ESC will burn :O

[jonadube]

hey mempey could u send me the link on how to mesh the twin motors?

[mempey]

It is the same as just doing one. I have done it so many times that I just do it by feel. But I would just put a piece of paper between the spur and pinion like usual. Just search youtube for how to set rc gear mesh.

[SuperSnoozie]

what mods will i have to make to do this to my 3905 emaxx

[JASORT818]

hi mempey i was wondering your summit has the mamba monster that was waterproof why do you change it to this one? is it better?

[mempey]

I waterproofed the mamba esc but it still got ruined. I went with the 2 vxl setup since it is waterproof from the factory. I wish Castle made a waterproof Mamba system. i would rather have that.

[myrcrevo1]

what if you put a fan on or will it still overheat

[mempey]

Probably, the problem is, the VXLhas a lot of speed, but not much torque. It is better to have 2 of them in such a heavy truck.

[myrcrevo1]

instead of two motors can you put one on and get the same power as the Titan 775

[mempey]

I don't think it will be strong enough for the Summit, it will probably overheat.

[watterpin]

@mempey I've done a single vxl summit. Didn't overheat... but it was 20 degrees out. You can see it in my videos. I don't know how long the motors will last that way. This year I'm going to double up on it. Thanks for showing us how!

[kylea1985]

im just curious if anyone has tried to fit dual 775 motors on a summit using the revo motor plate?

[mempey]

I am not sure, that is a pretty big motor, it might work though.

[Blakester569]

do you need the proline mashers?

[mempey]

No, I just wanted something different. They work great.

[tmaxxalltheway]

what color is that green for top

[mempey]

Olive Drab Green.

[98Ps3lover]

with my slash 4x4, i reverse the white and yellow, and leave the blue alone.... is there any real difference?

[Blakester569]

how do you correctly clean your summit?

[mempey]

I usually take the battery out and hit it with a garden hose. If I am going to do a real good cleaning, I spend an afternoon taking apart everything that has moving parts and cleaning them out real good. I try to pay special attention to the bearings. UltimateRCNetwork has a great tutorial on how to clean bearings. I always hit the moving parts with WD40 after any water gets on it.

[Blakester569]

@mempey thats what I do, Thank you

[MaTtJaNiToR2597]

When are you going to do a running vid??

[mempey]

Probably not going to do a whole video on it. I will put it in a video at some point later.

[SCHMULBACH22]

@mempey can you just put a single vxl in that?

[foxracer858crn]

@SCHMULBACH22 i want to know the same thing

[MaTtJaNiToR2597]

Can it do a standing backflip???

[mempey]

It will almost do a double.

[MaTtJaNiToR2597]

How fast does it go??

[mempey]

Very fast.

[Summit467]

what batteries do you run with that setup?

[mempey]

2s mainly, 3s is too crazy.

[myrcrevo1]

when ever you get ready to sell any of your traxxas truck tell me please

[cripin2021]

where can we find part 2? i wanna see this beast in action!

[mempey]

I might do one eventually, but trust me, it's quick.

[cripin2021]

I like that intro & ending song, i think i've heard it before. what is it?

[mempey]

Thinks, I think it was Demon Speeding by Rob Zombie

[cripin2021]

@mempey if so then its no wonder ive heard it :p

[charlygun1]

hey whats up mempey name is charlie i got a summit with the same set up but it only has one esc for both engine. It still runs really fast but i was just wondering if it made a difference to have two esc's. Also you think that if i upgraded to a single mamba monster with lipo's will it be faster than the two twins that i have now. There the 550 motors from a revo. Thanks.

[mempey]

It wont make a difference adding another esc if you have brushed motors. You have to do that if you have 2 brushless motors. A mamba is crazy fast but not waterproof. That's why I put 2 Velinions in it.

[Hobbieguy321]

Hey mempey how do you cleen your trucks after a run cuz your are always super cleen!!

[mempey]

Check out UltimateRCnetwork's channel, he has some cleaning videos.

[traxfan32]

im getting ready to install v twin's like yours in my e maxx 3905. With the wide ratio two speed, what gearing do you think I should try in it? Gonna use 4s and run in dirt and grass.

[mempey]

You might try 19 tooth pinions and whatever the stock spur is.

[MaTtJaNiToR]

Hey mempey, How fast do you think it goes??

Thanks

[mempey]

Too fast to control. I had to change to a smaller pinion and go easy on it. lol

[TheGDaaR]

I got an EMaxx comming in a few days and I was wondering if you think this would be a good setup for it? also what is the song called? thanks

[mempey]

It is a good setup for the E-Maxx, the song is Robb Zombie-Demon Speeding

[Zegnazz]

I dont have a summit, but I really want one, and If I got one, I would do this setup. Will the Motors or esc's Ever burn out or break? Please respond or make a video for this question. Thanks mempey =D

[mempey]

All motors will eventually burn out or break. I haven't had any trouble with these.

[bigmikie]

i cant get my pinnion gears to mesh up with my spur gear any suggestions

[mempey]

I sent you a personal message with a video link on how to do it.

[RCcarperson8]

Awwwww, I read the comments about the running video not being soon. I is sad :(

[nabilgravityoxygen]

I didn't really get how you managed to get the mashers on geodes due to difference in the bead. However, just to share, on my rustler, I regularly use proline 30-series tires on Traxxas All-Star wheels. This combination has the same issue of difference in bead. What I do is cut off the upper layer (which actually is the hurdle for the tire bead ) of the wheel/rim with hobby knife. There is a technique to use the kife which makes cutting extremely simple. It has been working for me flawless.

[Bastelkiste1]

You said in your Summit overview video that you waterproofed the MM and that it works great underwater. So did you MM-ESC smoked up or did something other happend?

[mempey]

No, I sprayed it with too high of water pressure and it got wet and just quit working.

[traxxas5308]

When's part 2 coming

[GtGills]

Do you have any problem with the esc button getting stuck

[mempey]

No, I have never heard of that problem.

[sandstrom1994]

Hi Mempey!

I have a question for you: What I can recall, you first upgraded the Summit with the mamba monster set up? And now when you have changed to another brushless set up, what are the differences between these to ways of propelling this truck?

I believe the mamba isn't waterproof. Was that the main reason why you did this change to your truck?

Love your videos, keep 'em coming (when you've got the time of course :) )

Greetings from Sweden!

[Ryguy1188]

Good Work! Cant wait till part 2 is uploaded!

[mempey]

I am taking a break from RC and Youtube for a while, I have a lot going on. Sorry, but don't expect a running video for a while.

[Ryguy1188]

Great video. I've been looking for this for a while. I can't wait till part 2 is up. Please post it asap, so I can get this combo!

Cheers

[mempey]

Right now I don't have plans to do a running video. I know I said I was going to but I am just way to busy right now to do it.

[PRESTONBARCLAY99]

amain hobbies is way better than tower

[mempey]

It takes them twice as long to ship to me, so I mainly use Tower.

[RCNEWStv]

Thats slick, I built an E-maxx a couple years back with a v-twin, and they really can haul a**. I never thought of doing it to my summit, so I cant wait to see pt2! Great vid.

[mempey]

Thanks man, It does run pretty well, fast. It will probably be a while on a running video. I have a ton of stuff going on. I am going to have to lay off of videos for a while. :(

[JayZ240]

Ahhhhhhh Mempey.... Where is part two Bro. I wanna make my Summit brushless and I am open to two VXL verses Tekin RX8 but I gotta see it run.

[mempey]

I will do a running video in a while, I am super busy these days. Patience.

[MrGmadden]

excellent job, Now go outside and get to bashing. I have been chained to this desk too long and need to see some insane HQ bashing!  Please and thank you

[mempey]

Thanks, probably gonna be a while on the running vid, I have a lot going on right now, RC has to take a break for a while.

[MrGmadden]

@mempey I totally understand. Just don't let the dust get too thick. Mine have been mocking me for the past year, but like you, I am a little to busy.

[shlong67]

wow thats expensive mod,wheres part 2??? wanna see it rip

[plorwax]

thanks for this and the color of the body and wheels is bad ass.

[mempey]

Thank you!

[traxxasslash95]

Cool, but with the erevo motor mount do you still have 2-speed or does the mount bolt onto the stock mount?

[mempey]

Still 2 speed, the only thing different is the mount from the E-Revo.

[3brosRCSam]

THATS SICK also thx for answering one of the questions that i had.

[r2koooolmi]

hahahah meat and potatos!!!!! great now im hu ngery haha sweet truck

[douhnutz]

twin vxl..thats expensive :) might as well get a mamba monster or even a rx8 :) Nice build though :) im jealous :)

[mempey]

The Mamba isn't waterproof.

[douhnutz]

@mempey thats good point :)

[nabilgravityoxygen]

@mempey Thanks for sharing.. I understand that you opted for twin VXL over MMM because VXL is waterproof. TraxxasVXL-3s and other EVX2s are actually waterproof to a degree only. I have them in my Rustler VXL and Summit and have had problems. To be accurate, in reality, they are water resistant.

[cripin2021]

@nabilgravityoxygen if theyre only water resistant, they have a high degree of resistance. Last spring i took my slash vxl up into the hills to mess around, and it was downpourin like no tomorrow. I took it thru a deep puddle and it just sorta floated for a bit before i got it out. No water damage, in fact the only problem i encountered after that was was gravel gettin into the notch in the gearbox cover (if u own a slash u know what notch im talkin). the vxl passes the winter-in-oregon test!

[kabe628]

why did you changed the mamba monster?

[keeton520]

@kabe628 i think he did it to keep it water proof maybe without destroying warrenty on the castle

[benkoa79]

@kabe628 i thing becous mamba is not waterprof

[kabe628]

you painted them or dyed them in black???

[mempey]

I mentioned that I painted them.

[goastdoggg]

FYI for everyone. Easy off oven spray removes the Chrome plating on plastic wheels. Spray and give it about 15 min then wipe off.

[team222badbrad]

NO NO NOT TWO OF "The battery leads". 4:02

Switch two of the three MOTOR leads... :-)

Looks awesome BTW.

I spy two AR Drone outdoor canopies!

[mempey]

Oops, sue me, I didn't script anything I said, that was only the 3rd take and I was getting over it. lol

Thanks, and yes those are Drone canopies.

[team222badbrad]

@mempey Just bursting your bubble!

I might sue because I want to take that truck off your hands! I won't if you trade my brushed Summit for your twin brushless... :-)

[kylea1985]

very sweeeeett!!! 

[chebbytruck]

hey man got a question for you,how do you get your rc's so clean lol? i can't get mine that clean most of the time, do you have something you spray on them and rinse or what?

[mempey]

I use Simple Green most of the time, but I also don't get them that dirty very often. When I do, I hose them off immediately after running.

[kilgoja]

hmm i was wondering if that wheel/tire setup would work or not...i wanna get the geode wheels next and was trying to decide between the chevron or masher tires...didn't know if the mashers would fit or not lol

[mempey]

It's a little tricky, but the will fit.  The Mashers perform VERY well.

[hbzax10]

Why didn't you just leave the mamba in it?

[mempey]

It isn't waterproof.

[GJCrawler]

Wallet killer.lol,sweet vid man Thumbs up:)

[mempey]

I took them out of my Villain, so I already had them. I probably wouldn't have done it if I had to buy them. I just wanted it to be waterproof.

[jtc817]

Nice Summit, can't wait for the running vid