I can't really credit is information. He doesnt explain purposes very well. He's not preserving homegrown food so he's obviousely not delf sufficient. I think he's simply a guy with too much time on his hands.
@carlfogh lotta people seem to have time on their hands. You seem to so, why not head over to survivalreports channel( since he is the one showing how to pack in these films ) and you can view his movies which are all based on homesteading. But im sure that would require more effort on your part.
I would look to your channel for "information" but it seems you have no uploads......thanks for viewing.
@carlfogh That's some funny $hit! Yep, 25 years of actually doing this stuff, 12 years of living at my retreat and homesteading and 2 years running a commercial cannery packing food in the 90's, your right. Maybe you should watch some of the youtube tards that have packed six buckets total and then act like experts or come with retarded stuff like handwarmers, sheetrock dust and potato chip bags. Good luck to you!
@carlfogh Oh, and I've never "preserved homegrown food", LOL. Yep that's why I have a 15 part Survival Gardening series here on youtube and videos on how to "preserve home grown food." Gotta love youtube, lots of people that like to talk crap but never do anything.
I don't understand why your purchasing sealed food. Then opening it then resealing it into pouches or containers (buckets). Just to expand its product live by one or two years. Whats the point ?.
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Great series of videos!! I am no expert but I bet you should have used latex gloves when opening and touching the inside of those mylar bags... Bacteria on you hands left inside that bag could grow over 20 years and cause adverse affects on the stored food. You video series on LTFS is the best on YT yet so keep up the good work.
No offense sir, and I may be wrong, but I don't think there is much time left. In other words LTS is going to start pretty soon...so let's say maximum storage life of 7-8 years. Would that require Mylar bags? Thanks sir and my wife and I really got a lot from your video. We go to a lot of boards i.e. americcan prepper, survivalistboards, survivalpodcast and my learning style does not do well with reading only.
No offense sir, and I may be wrong, but I don't think there is much time left. In other words LTS is going to start pretty soon...so let's say maximum storage life of 7-8 years. Would that require Mylar bags? Thanks sir and my wife and I really got a lot from your video. We go to a lot of boards i.e. americcan prepper, survivalistboards, survivalpodcast and my learning style does not do well with reading only.
but watching the video of people doing something is what helps me, so you don't know what a life saver these vids are. I am assuming you have more? Wished we could just find a local group, but with this subject comes a lot of paranoia and unfortunatley that keeps people apart, which I believe is going to be the worst thing in a SHTF scenario....just my opinion. Again thanks
I have a quick question. Would it be better to store the rice or grain in 1 gallon bags rather than 5 gallon bags. That way when I open the bucket I can grab what I need. I'm just starting out and would like your opinion.
Oh by the way, great vids ! ! Thanks for sharing...........
@traumajerk You can, but if your packing a lot of food ( say over 100 lbs) imho, it is better to just use 5 gallon bags. In the end its up to the person packing to do it how they see fit.
Can u please tell me what the name of the thing you put in the bucket after you put in the Mylar bag is?what kind of obsorber? where can i get this from..i need the name of it...i need to store dry food in 5 gallon buckets. thanks
@Kwikkill34 I don't think you understand what wheat is used for. If you store wheat you also need to store a mill to grind it up and make your own flour. I think what you are missing is if you store only canned items that is what you are eventually going to eat. When you store wheat you are storing the ability to make hundreds of items in the future and is exponentially healthier than a can of soup with all sorts of preservatives. The point is you should store both to be well prepared.
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
@tfergusonaz I somewhat agree with u. But 5 gallon buckets (especially at this magnitude) take up more space than the ten boxes of food I got stored in a closet. Also, most canned items are good to eat right from the container. Granted, the pellets are too, but u going to run off with a 5-gallon bucket weighing what? 50 pounds? Only to sit around it and eat dry pellets? Ah yes, u said other ingredients too. Seems like a lot of space, as well as no portability.
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
It also says to put a balanced amount of food (not all one food group), incase u have to use the food a lot sooner than anticipated. I believe that what u r doing here would be a waste of food/money/space for most people. Do you have a REAL food backup as well?
@Kwikkill34 6 months of dried items will take up less space and cost less than 6 months of wet packed food ietms. Again everyone has an opinion, and i feel those who sell their plans short by stocking up on canned chesse, bacon, and soups are wasting their money and space ,let alone the time and hassle involved in a yearly to bi yearly rotation of wet packed food stocks.
@delta69alpha I can also see yr point on that, but I am using some of my stuff as necessity (and expiration dates) call for. To me, I am killing 2 birds with one stone. I have a mini grocery store in my place, and I also have security that my family and I would have balanced meals that we might even enjoy, and be totally self-sufficent for 2-3 months, if we had to live only on my storage.
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat. Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking other items. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have. So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage
@Kwikkill34@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have. So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have. So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
I have about 2-3 months of food put up in boxes in a closet. It's REAL food with a long shelf life. The shortest is 4-5 months, the longest are the canned goods that have dates 3 years or more in the future, and as long as they are not damaged, will last much longer.
I understand this is for decades of storage, but who in the heck is going to eat pellets tomorrow or 50 years from tomorrow? Every single long-term food storage site I have visited says to put up food you will EAT.
@Kwikkill34 everyone is entitled to their opinion on what is "long term" and what is not. Most if not all sites chant the mantra "store what you eat". Let me known when people have 6 months of pizza,hot wings,cake,soda,fish,steaks, burgers on hand. Till them people will either store wet packed items( can goods) or dry items ( rcie,beans,wheat,spices).
@delta69alpha Yes, I see your point, but do u have shorter term foods that are balanced foods for times from tomorrow up to, lets say 5 years? Your process may save lives 20-30 years from now, but most people want to do more than survive.
@delta69alpha And by the way I do have dry goods as well, rice, flour, cornmeal and otehr mixes. Granted they only keep a couple years, but I dont know anyone who is going to have the space u require, basically for their entire lives.
@Kwikkill34 i live in a sub 1200 sq ft place with no out buildings.Where there is a will there is a way. Im sitting next to 1k lb in food as i type....for some thats an eye sore( to have a whole room dedicated to preparedness items), for me and my wife....its security in knowing we have what we need.
I asked our local grain elevator about buying grain for human consumption and they said they would not trust all of the farmers that bring their grains to the elevator. I have to agree as we are a people that do things for money and only money these days.
Hey Delta, Thanks for all the videos as I have followed your instructions and am well on my way. This is great information as this is just as important as tactical which is my background. Bullets and beans. After going through this process, it got me thinking about storing my ammo using the same methods. I am wondering if this is ok and will not damage my ammo. I am thinking about placing my ammo in Mylar, throwing is 2 300 cc O absorbers, and sealing it in my ammo cans. Go or No go?
Great Video! I was wondering - In your experience - would you think this is also suitable for long term gun storage?? To prevent it from rusting, etc.
@iwillsurvivewhenshtf Not just our method. All major LTS food companies use mylar bags and O2 absorbers. LTS is not for everyone, but everyone should have some basic dry goods set aside and not just wet packed items(cans goods).
You should buy a vacuum sealer and put your food in portioned sized bags; pint/quart. This way you only used what you need, when you need it. And it makes it easier to ration it out if supply is limited.
Properly prepared food can last almost indefinitely. Archeologists found a sealed jar of rice in China that was over 2000 years old and it was still eatable.
If you guys work on a bench you will find that you have better results and use less effort.
I love the video and have tried it and to seal the mylar i didnt get a heat gun but i did have good luck hith my wifes ceramic hair straitning iron. You can get one at a dollar sroe for about 5-10$
more informative then anything else I've come across in storing food for possible things to come. i work in an Applebee's and get all the pickle barrels for free. I'm curious if i can store multiple bags within one bucket ... and what about storing sugar? and is it better to store canned tuna in oil or tuna is water?
Ive purchased a lot of salt and sugar (granulated) should that also be bagged and sealed in a barrel? Im interested in knowing who "LDS" is who offers free s/h.I think honeyvilles prices shot way up.Ive read all the posts on this thread.Thecrabbit info alone was woth it.Worth it,rabbit info
once its packed and stored away, when time comes to open the stored food to use for a little bit, then what do you do? Do you seal them up again and again ?
if the electric is out and it is a long term event, you will use what you opened. If it is short term, you can use any "hot " item. edge of a cast iron skillet would work, or you can buy a cast iron clothing iron! ;p
what is the best dry items to store. you tell us how to store stuff but not what to store. what would be at the top of your list if you had say 10 5gal buckets ?
The range of items you can store is endless. But i would stick with your basic items. Rice, dried beans,wheat,salt and sugar. You can also toss in some pasta,spices, etc to round it out. The amount of what you store depends on the amount of people you plan to feed and the type of event you are planning for.
salt and sugar do you store that the same way you would a dried bean ? also can you store any item that is dried ( example split peas ?) i got the bags and buckets ready just need to fill em. problem is ill probably end up buying 2lb bags at the store. no place to buy bulk dry items...but will be worth the money.
Yes. I do , with out the o2 absorbers(salt/sugar). I also have peas,and various other beans that were in the 2-5 lb bags. I purchased 50+ lbs on time during a store close out. Check you local sams/costco or discount food stores. Check for sales. Right now with the colder temps, you can take a few extra weeks to buy enough to pack them at once.
last question and iam gonna go buy what i need..... salt and sugar....is there a type that is better then another or just regular everyday salt and sugar will do. thinking raw sugar or table sugar or sea salt vs table salt...and thank you for the vids and advice.
Hey guys, awesome video! Just had a brief question. Would a hair straightener work as well in lieu of the clamshell heater for sealing up plastics / mylar?
Ok there is only two in our family now. We can't use 5 gallons when opened. What do you suggest? Using 1 gallon buckets and 1 gallon mylars? If so what kind of one gallon buckets? The ones w/gaskets too and where would I get them? Also, what type of corn needs to be bought to store to make cornmeal? All I have heard you speak of in your videos are popping corn which you said is a bit course when milled. What's the alternative? Waiting on a reply. Can't wait to get started!
I have Dent Corn, but i have it to make nixtamal for tortillas. I'm pretty sure you would use dent corn for corn meal though. IF you are storing wheat or something else that is whole grain you don't have to worry about eating it fast. It's not going to go bad, so i would stick with the 5 gallon buckets for those things
Rice need water and heat to be cooked If you store rice and you want to use it in a survival situation you may have a problem ....what would you recommend to store that can be eaten any without cooking
Or you could go to an antiques store and buy an old school heat up on the fireplace type cast iron IRON and use that.
If we want to survive and remain free, we have to think outside the box and come with solutions, not just dwell on the problem and think that things are hopeless.
Good job. But these little bag sealers wont work when your power is out. And if FEMA takes command your power wont be on, neither will the phone, internet, cell towers, or water.
AE system. Batteries etc. That and a simple propane stove,set the iron on it...and seal. Thinking Outside the box is what will get us by. Not cowering in fear waiting to be shipped off to a tinfoil dream of fema red and blue camps! :P
Without electricity- purge the air out once the bag is full like we have shown, take heavy duty duct tape and run a strip where the mylar bag lips meet EXCEPT the last inch or so. Fold the corners in just like we did on the video, leaving the last inch open and push all the air out you can. Then tape the last inch or so. Is at as good as sealing it? No but it will work and it's better than doing nothing. Also, go to an antiques store and get - SEE NEXT POST
My oxygen absorbers are 2000cc each. Since I will only be using one absorber per bucket should I put the absorber in the bottom of the bucket or the top?
Thanks for the videos and your comments. They are very helpful.
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Is it just me, or did you clearly use only 2 oxygen absorbers in these demonstrations, only moments after harping and harping and harping on how you need to use a 3rd, extra packet, to ensure ample o2 absorbtion? The whole "stepping over a dollar to save a dime" bit in part 1.
It was explained in part 1 that the O2 's were older ones( over 8 years old) and to be safe that extras could be added to the buckets. There is no need to "save" the absorber with the mindset of " those cost me 13$.." when you reach your recommended absorption rate and you have extra O2 absorbers going to "waste". Just drop them in there. It is better to be safe and have " more" than not.
Whats that saying so many like... 2 is one, one is none ;p
I think you need to rewatch the whole thing. I'm pretty sure I very clearly stated that the absorbers we were using in that demonstration were old and we were doubling up on them for that reason.
Where do you order the mylar bags at this size please? You said this was feed grain can you tell us what type of feed grain and what you actually use this for in cooking?
Shop simpler living and add a dot and a com after that. This was wheat and can be used any number of ways including to make pasta, flour, meat substitute, sprouted for vit C, etc. etc.
What sort of food product do you think would be good to store for dogs to eat? I've been watching your videos and have been storing some rice, beans etc for myself. However, I look outside at my poor dog and wonder what she will eat if TSHTF.
Dry dog food you can get about a 2-3 year rotation out of. Do not bother to pack in mylars, just pour into buckets or barrels. In a few years the top inch or so will become white- where the fats and oils in the food have started to go rancid. Skim that layer off and toss in the pond. Feed the rest to the dogs. It's worked for us for quite some time now.
Very new to these types of posts, very informative. Can you tell me if it is worth buying the freeze dried packets or are they a fad. I live in Yorkshire England so not sure what is on offer over here.
Thanks for the great video. It is very helpful. I was wondering if you can help me with a question: I live in Central NJ and I am having problems finding wheat in bulk. It looks as though my only option is going to be feed wheat from southern NJ. Any tips on finding grain dealers and/or what feed wheats would you recommend to store (brands or important product info)? Thanks again.
I like Honeyville Grains. Their stuff's a touch pricey but they have a flat shipping rate of 4.95 for orders of ANY size.
However, I was wondering how you get the residual dill pickle or whatever flavoring out of the bucket in order to keep your grains from taking up the taste.
Well, I guess the I did the eight or so buckets down in the basement wrong. I just left the tops of the mylar bags open and counted on the rubber gasket on the lid of the bucket, and the O2 absorbers (five per bucket) to maintain product freshness. I'm new to packaging my own storage foods, so your posting really is helpful and informative. Thanks!
Glad they could help, your mistake was one of the many reasons we made these series of movies. You should be able to just re seal with o2's and be good to go. Glad your getting into LTS as well, great work!
I got into WANTING to store food back in college, but couldn't afford to do so. Over the years I stored, can by can, Mountain House foods in #10 can...beats the heck outta MREs! I've got a good supply of MH but started looking into buckets a year or so ago. I looked at Emergency Essentials' products, but learned that I could to the whole foods myself. I agree with you whole heartedly that there are some items you should leave to the pro's with the #10 cans (i.e. milk, etc.)
The best thing to do is to test it yourself and go with what you feel is safe. I would buy a bag, smell,test, and see how clean it is. Then purchase it in bulk if you feel it is safe. If not you can purchase wheat online from vendors like walton,EE,honeyville and the cheapest pre packed is from the LDS with free shipping!
pretty much. I would lean away from buckets that had harsh chemicals,oils etc. Latex water based paint,sheet rock mud buckets etc,wash em out good and you'll be g2g. The bucket really is there to just hold and protect the mylar.
Awesome thanks for the info. Hey about how much corn and wheat would one want to put up for say 6 months? I grow a garden every year and have at least 6 to 9 months of food stored. I can not grow much corn and wheat so i want to have about 6 to 9 months stored. also what exactly am I looking for? I see feed corn at the CO-OP is that what one would store? Also is there any other place that you can get wheat and corn from? and where do you get the mylar at? thanks for any help you can provide.
I wouldn't recommend feed grain as it is not cleaned as properly as food grade. Mouse urine, insects & higher moisture content can ruin the whole deal. Wheat grains need to be high protein grade, be double or triple cleaned, & dried. High protein wheat will ensure proper rising when baking. Insert a bay leaf or two(to ward off insects) & 2 oxygen aborbers added to the mylar bags. I even use a food saver to suck air from the bags. I use a Nutrimill grain mill to turn the wheat into flour.
First off, no one "recommended" feed grain. It was made VERY clear that it was a personal decision as to what to pack. Also, this wheat WAS double cleaned. Bay leaves don't work, trust me, I've opened MANY a bucket of grits, pancake mix, etc. that had bay leaves (lots of them) in there AND weevils. Some "riding" on the bay leaves like it was the Love boat or something!! ALL grains, including those sold directly for human use is exposed to ALL the things you mention. Watch the "Results" videos.
I agree with SurvivalReport. Human grade, grocery store grains & flour contains weevil eggs, mouse urine, etc. In fact, I make it a habit to freeze all grain products for 4 days before using/storing. Insect problem solved.
Very few people use DE because of the hazards involved (inhalation hazard) and little rewards of it. Unless you let your grains sit around for months on end before packing, you won't this. Pack them soon after getting them with oxygen absorbers and mylar and you won't need to mess with things like DE, freezing, etc.
First off, FOOD grade diatomaceous earth is not hazardous as it does not have a sufficient enough amount of silica in it to be so. Secondly, many if not the majority of dry food manufactures & packagers use it extensively for a reason. It not only kills bugs but harmful bacteria as well.
WHO uses it for packaging? Walton, OFD, Honeyville grain, NONE of the major i.e, well known packing houses use this product. The wikipedia page on DE called it an "inhalation hazard" before someone "edited" that part out. It is NOT necessary for packing. If it was, the old grains in the "Results" video here would show infestations, they do NOT.
notayup,walton,EE etc all post on their web sites how they pack their #10's and super pails. The use of DE in packing their LTS foods is not mentioned nor used,per private emails with those companies and others have proven that. Feel free to ask them how they pack .
While we are at it they also do not use dry ice to nitro flush their products. Thanks for commenting and viewing our films.
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As stated earlier many companies use it for dry food packaging and storage that's a fact and it has been since the food grade was invented. As far as the feed companies you listed there is a very high probability that it was already added to their grains before it was delivered to them. Do a little research with a simple search for grain storage & DE or ask a farmer. It is also widely used in grains labeled organic as well since it is in reality an organic matter.
This is going to sound awful but as a constant source of meat consider buying two sets of male and female rabbits. When the going gets tough and food becomes scarce, allow them to breed and eat the offspring. We have three rabbits, 2 female 1 male and are about to get another male. It sounds horrid I know, but if your'e feeding them yourself (part of our garden crop's specifically for keeping them fed & healthy) then u know the meat's clean, GE free & they r a low maintanence high yield "crop".
Actually, I don't think its that awful. My Grandmother kept her family in fresh meat throughout the great depression by raising rabbits in her garage. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Yes that's a common cliche, but fortunately untrue. Rabbits ARE our meat source with occasionally a deer (though not in a year) and occasionally some chicken (not in 2 years). People also say you'll "starve" on them because they have no fat- maybe scrawny wild rabbit but definitely NOT home raised. We will have some videos on rabbit raising out soon and you will SEE the fat. We have a 9 year old son that's only ever eaten rabbit, some chicken and some deer. He's totally healthy and strong!
I never said there is anything wrong with rabbit as a supplementary food source. Rabbit meat is too lean as a SOLE source of meat. It has the lowest amount of protein compared to beef, chicken, turkey, pork ect. and the lowest amount of fat as well. Your body needs fat to function properly. With out it can lead to liver failure and ultimate death. That is one of the reasons people that try zero fat diets usually end up in the emergency room. Do a search on "rabbit starvation it is fact.
See I wasn't talking about a "supplementary food source" we were both talking about it as THE source of meat. "Rabbit starvation" is commonly attributed to wild rabbits. Watch for the rabbit raising videos, it's hard to dispute video proof of the FAT that is on home raised rabbits. Scrawny wild rabbits might be lean, etc. but I've never seen a home raised rabbit that didn't have some degree of fat on it. I've raised rabbits since the early 90's.
Well I wish you luck! Every "survivorman" episode he largely starves for the better part of a week, no exactly a real long term plan...
And it's not "gready" it's greedy (if that actually is what you were trying to write???) If your going to make stupid comments at least spell correctly.
What is the brand and name of your wheat feed? About how much is the bag and where did you get this wheat feed?
survivalist68 2 weeks ago
Hey I wonder if we could use a hair crimper?
2012ANONYMOUSA 4 weeks ago
@2012ANONYMOUSA yes you can.
delta69alpha 4 weeks ago
@2012ANONYMOUSA you can buy them used at a second hand store!
2012ANONYMOUSA 4 weeks ago
Hi can someone anybody please? Can I store standard supermarket rice like this to last 15-30 year shelf life? Thanx
shezzzzzz 2 months ago
I can't really credit is information. He doesnt explain purposes very well. He's not preserving homegrown food so he's obviousely not delf sufficient. I think he's simply a guy with too much time on his hands.
carlfogh 6 months ago
@carlfogh lotta people seem to have time on their hands. You seem to so, why not head over to survivalreports channel( since he is the one showing how to pack in these films ) and you can view his movies which are all based on homesteading. But im sure that would require more effort on your part.
I would look to your channel for "information" but it seems you have no uploads......thanks for viewing.
delta69alpha 6 months ago 3
@carlfogh That's some funny $hit! Yep, 25 years of actually doing this stuff, 12 years of living at my retreat and homesteading and 2 years running a commercial cannery packing food in the 90's, your right. Maybe you should watch some of the youtube tards that have packed six buckets total and then act like experts or come with retarded stuff like handwarmers, sheetrock dust and potato chip bags. Good luck to you!
SurvivalReport 4 months ago
@carlfogh Oh, and I've never "preserved homegrown food", LOL. Yep that's why I have a 15 part Survival Gardening series here on youtube and videos on how to "preserve home grown food." Gotta love youtube, lots of people that like to talk crap but never do anything.
SurvivalReport 4 months ago
Sheetrock has calcium....just sayin!
delanogaston 9 months ago
I don't understand why your purchasing sealed food. Then opening it then resealing it into pouches or containers (buckets). Just to expand its product live by one or two years. Whats the point ?.
Why waist the energy.
u565717 9 months ago
@u565717 More like expanding it from 1-2 years as is, to 15-30 years.
delta69alpha 9 months ago 2
could you use a hair flat iron (used to straighten hair) to seal the mylar bags?
good4u125 9 months ago
@good4u125 If you have a quality straighter, yes. Mine goes up to 450 degrees and it seals mylar beautifully. I've read many others do the same.
ally112409 8 months ago
Would a heat gun work to seal mylar bags?
BoarderX 9 months ago
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ciciliciousnyc 10 months ago
Can I order the wheat grain online? If so at what web address?
123JumpingJacks 11 months ago
Great series of videos!! I am no expert but I bet you should have used latex gloves when opening and touching the inside of those mylar bags... Bacteria on you hands left inside that bag could grow over 20 years and cause adverse affects on the stored food. You video series on LTFS is the best on YT yet so keep up the good work.
CalPara 11 months ago
So if your using food grade you DON'T need mylar bags?
Izaana030505 11 months ago
@Izaana030505 If your correctly packing for LTS you need to use mylar.
delta69alpha 11 months ago
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No offense sir, and I may be wrong, but I don't think there is much time left. In other words LTS is going to start pretty soon...so let's say maximum storage life of 7-8 years. Would that require Mylar bags? Thanks sir and my wife and I really got a lot from your video. We go to a lot of boards i.e. americcan prepper, survivalistboards, survivalpodcast and my learning style does not do well with reading only.
Izaana030505 11 months ago
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No offense sir, and I may be wrong, but I don't think there is much time left. In other words LTS is going to start pretty soon...so let's say maximum storage life of 7-8 years. Would that require Mylar bags? Thanks sir and my wife and I really got a lot from your video. We go to a lot of boards i.e. americcan prepper, survivalistboards, survivalpodcast and my learning style does not do well with reading only.
Izaana030505 11 months ago
@delta69alpha
but watching the video of people doing something is what helps me, so you don't know what a life saver these vids are. I am assuming you have more? Wished we could just find a local group, but with this subject comes a lot of paranoia and unfortunatley that keeps people apart, which I believe is going to be the worst thing in a SHTF scenario....just my opinion. Again thanks
Izaana030505 11 months ago
can you store flour, sugar and mixes like this? even just for about 5 years?
SPCkeith 1 year ago
@SPCkeith yes you can. just make sure it makes a good seal on the mylar. sugar is g2g. flour i would really make sure the seal is good.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
@delta69alpha thanks i just ordered 15 bags and 20 2000cc absorbers i have been putting this off for waaaaaaay to long.
thanks again
SPCkeith 1 year ago
I have a quick question. Would it be better to store the rice or grain in 1 gallon bags rather than 5 gallon bags. That way when I open the bucket I can grab what I need. I'm just starting out and would like your opinion.
Oh by the way, great vids ! ! Thanks for sharing...........
Traumajerk
traumajerk 1 year ago
@traumajerk You can, but if your packing a lot of food ( say over 100 lbs) imho, it is better to just use 5 gallon bags. In the end its up to the person packing to do it how they see fit.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
Can u please tell me what the name of the thing you put in the bucket after you put in the Mylar bag is?what kind of obsorber? where can i get this from..i need the name of it...i need to store dry food in 5 gallon buckets. thanks
jshdy36e9dj 1 year ago
@jshdy36e9dj O2 absorbers. You can pick them up from any prep store on the web. i buy min ethru wendy maes simpler living.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
Thanks so much for your video.
RedSunSystem 1 year ago
what is the name brand of youre wheat
johnscustomrods 1 year ago
Is it GMO wheat? If so, where can you buy wheat that's not been genetically modified? Good advice in these videos though.
gblpst81 1 year ago
I think these may be They have a rubber O ring in the lid
You have to burp the air out to get them shut
Bowdeen 1 year ago
I have access to brand new food grade buckets wioth new sealling lids Do I need the bags also
Bowdeen 1 year ago
@Bowdeen Yes. to be easy about it. For LTS the buckets themselves are not air tight.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
Where can I get a Bag of Feed wheat like that? cost? Online? LBS?
HadesmyBoa569 1 year ago
Also, where is the portable food containers? That is another important necessity in a crysis.
Kwikkill34 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 5 gallon buckets are portable ......
delta69alpha 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 I don't think you understand what wheat is used for. If you store wheat you also need to store a mill to grind it up and make your own flour. I think what you are missing is if you store only canned items that is what you are eventually going to eat. When you store wheat you are storing the ability to make hundreds of items in the future and is exponentially healthier than a can of soup with all sorts of preservatives. The point is you should store both to be well prepared.
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@tfergusonaz I somewhat agree with u. But 5 gallon buckets (especially at this magnitude) take up more space than the ten boxes of food I got stored in a closet. Also, most canned items are good to eat right from the container. Granted, the pellets are too, but u going to run off with a 5-gallon bucket weighing what? 50 pounds? Only to sit around it and eat dry pellets? Ah yes, u said other ingredients too. Seems like a lot of space, as well as no portability.
Kwikkill34 1 year ago
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@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 Portable, but extremely heavy...so really not vry portable after all.
Kwikkill34 1 year ago
It also says to put a balanced amount of food (not all one food group), incase u have to use the food a lot sooner than anticipated. I believe that what u r doing here would be a waste of food/money/space for most people. Do you have a REAL food backup as well?
Kwikkill34 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 6 months of dried items will take up less space and cost less than 6 months of wet packed food ietms. Again everyone has an opinion, and i feel those who sell their plans short by stocking up on canned chesse, bacon, and soups are wasting their money and space ,let alone the time and hassle involved in a yearly to bi yearly rotation of wet packed food stocks.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
@delta69alpha I can also see yr point on that, but I am using some of my stuff as necessity (and expiration dates) call for. To me, I am killing 2 birds with one stone. I have a mini grocery store in my place, and I also have security that my family and I would have balanced meals that we might even enjoy, and be totally self-sufficent for 2-3 months, if we had to live only on my storage.
Kwikkill34 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat. Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking other items. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have. So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 @Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have. So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have. So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
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@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 You have missed the point of storing wheat.Wheat is ground up into flour for baking and cooking. With the ability to have flour you create hundreds of options down the road. If all you store is canned items that is what you eat. With wheat you give yourself the ability to decide what you will have.So long as you store other long term items (sugar, milk, salt) You cant store a loaf of bread very long. The point is you need both short term (1-3 month) and long term storage (1-20 years)
tfergusonaz 1 year ago
I have about 2-3 months of food put up in boxes in a closet. It's REAL food with a long shelf life. The shortest is 4-5 months, the longest are the canned goods that have dates 3 years or more in the future, and as long as they are not damaged, will last much longer.
I understand this is for decades of storage, but who in the heck is going to eat pellets tomorrow or 50 years from tomorrow? Every single long-term food storage site I have visited says to put up food you will EAT.
Kwikkill34 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 everyone is entitled to their opinion on what is "long term" and what is not. Most if not all sites chant the mantra "store what you eat". Let me known when people have 6 months of pizza,hot wings,cake,soda,fish,steaks, burgers on hand. Till them people will either store wet packed items( can goods) or dry items ( rcie,beans,wheat,spices).
delta69alpha 1 year ago
@delta69alpha Yes, I see your point, but do u have shorter term foods that are balanced foods for times from tomorrow up to, lets say 5 years? Your process may save lives 20-30 years from now, but most people want to do more than survive.
Kwikkill34 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 yes see our other movies about short term vs long term food storage
delta69alpha 1 year ago
@delta69alpha And by the way I do have dry goods as well, rice, flour, cornmeal and otehr mixes. Granted they only keep a couple years, but I dont know anyone who is going to have the space u require, basically for their entire lives.
Kwikkill34 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 i live in a sub 1200 sq ft place with no out buildings.Where there is a will there is a way. Im sitting next to 1k lb in food as i type....for some thats an eye sore( to have a whole room dedicated to preparedness items), for me and my wife....its security in knowing we have what we need.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
@Kwikkill34 store rice, legumes, grains, dehydrated fruit and vegetables.
store things you eat yea, just store them for longer term if you want more security
informationwarfare 1 month ago
I bet you could use a hair straightener has your sealer instead of a clothes iron. On a high setting those things get hot. What do you think?
ladyautumn41 1 year ago
@ladyautumn41 Yes you can use one, but imho an iron will work faster.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
I asked our local grain elevator about buying grain for human consumption and they said they would not trust all of the farmers that bring their grains to the elevator. I have to agree as we are a people that do things for money and only money these days.
gbarr7 1 year ago
Hey Delta, Thanks for all the videos as I have followed your instructions and am well on my way. This is great information as this is just as important as tactical which is my background. Bullets and beans. After going through this process, it got me thinking about storing my ammo using the same methods. I am wondering if this is ok and will not damage my ammo. I am thinking about placing my ammo in Mylar, throwing is 2 300 cc O absorbers, and sealing it in my ammo cans. Go or No go?
12UltraMk 1 year ago
how long would one bucket last a family of three one being a child
timothy6487944 1 year ago
Great Video! I was wondering - In your experience - would you think this is also suitable for long term gun storage?? To prevent it from rusting, etc.
Martinbilzen 1 year ago
i dont think that your method would work well for my needs but it appears to work great for you i enjoyed watching the videos either way
iwillsurvivewhenshtf 1 year ago
@iwillsurvivewhenshtf Not just our method. All major LTS food companies use mylar bags and O2 absorbers. LTS is not for everyone, but everyone should have some basic dry goods set aside and not just wet packed items(cans goods).
Thanks for the comments and views. D69
delta69alpha 1 year ago
You should buy a vacuum sealer and put your food in portioned sized bags; pint/quart. This way you only used what you need, when you need it. And it makes it easier to ration it out if supply is limited.
LookUpAtSkyNow 1 year ago
@LookUpAtSkyNow mylar bags come in 1 gallon size as well for those that wish to "sub"pack a bucket.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
Properly prepared food can last almost indefinitely. Archeologists found a sealed jar of rice in China that was over 2000 years old and it was still eatable.
If you guys work on a bench you will find that you have better results and use less effort.
XCritonX 1 year ago
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Do you know if flour is dry enough to store in mylar bags?
Thank you so much. Great Video.
7777Ralph 1 year ago
Do you know if flour is dry enough to store in mylar bags?
Thank you so much. Great Video.
7777Ralph 1 year ago
I love the video and have tried it and to seal the mylar i didnt get a heat gun but i did have good luck hith my wifes ceramic hair straitning iron. You can get one at a dollar sroe for about 5-10$
chekers420 1 year ago
more informative then anything else I've come across in storing food for possible things to come. i work in an Applebee's and get all the pickle barrels for free. I'm curious if i can store multiple bags within one bucket ... and what about storing sugar? and is it better to store canned tuna in oil or tuna is water?
rubberplasticmetal 1 year ago
Ive purchased a lot of salt and sugar (granulated) should that also be bagged and sealed in a barrel? Im interested in knowing who "LDS" is who offers free s/h.I think honeyvilles prices shot way up.Ive read all the posts on this thread.Thecrabbit info alone was woth it.Worth it,rabbit info
minchingpennys 1 year ago
Iodine is an essential nutrient humans get the majority of from salt,thats why the depopulists want it removed.25Lb bags at Smart and final
minchingpennys 1 year ago
Be certain you aleways get iodidew in your salt! 25 lb bags at Smart and Final.
minchingpennys 1 year ago
Where can I get a large bag of Table salt ? I went to a Sam's club and they did not even have one.
urkingod 2 years ago
go to a pool store they have food grade salt but no idione in it
wwssmommy66 2 years ago
once its packed and stored away, when time comes to open the stored food to use for a little bit, then what do you do? Do you seal them up again and again ?
What if there is no electric available ?
urkingod 2 years ago
if the electric is out and it is a long term event, you will use what you opened. If it is short term, you can use any "hot " item. edge of a cast iron skillet would work, or you can buy a cast iron clothing iron! ;p
delta69alpha 2 years ago
zip lock freezer bags, tupper ware
dirtTdude 1 year ago
Where do I get the absorbers and the mylar? I can get the buckets at rural king.
Thanks. :)
Goobyusa 2 years ago
got mine on ebay
sloth9669 2 years ago
Can you store breakfast cereal like bran flakes by using this method?
bseven54 2 years ago 2
what is the best dry items to store. you tell us how to store stuff but not what to store. what would be at the top of your list if you had say 10 5gal buckets ?
sloth9669 2 years ago
The range of items you can store is endless. But i would stick with your basic items. Rice, dried beans,wheat,salt and sugar. You can also toss in some pasta,spices, etc to round it out. The amount of what you store depends on the amount of people you plan to feed and the type of event you are planning for.
D59A
delta69alpha 2 years ago
salt and sugar do you store that the same way you would a dried bean ? also can you store any item that is dried ( example split peas ?) i got the bags and buckets ready just need to fill em. problem is ill probably end up buying 2lb bags at the store. no place to buy bulk dry items...but will be worth the money.
sloth9669 2 years ago
Yes. I do , with out the o2 absorbers(salt/sugar). I also have peas,and various other beans that were in the 2-5 lb bags. I purchased 50+ lbs on time during a store close out. Check you local sams/costco or discount food stores. Check for sales. Right now with the colder temps, you can take a few extra weeks to buy enough to pack them at once.
delta69alpha 2 years ago
last question and iam gonna go buy what i need..... salt and sugar....is there a type that is better then another or just regular everyday salt and sugar will do. thinking raw sugar or table sugar or sea salt vs table salt...and thank you for the vids and advice.
sloth9669 2 years ago
@delta69alpha
LDS canneries have indicated that no oxygen absorbers are needed when packing sugar. Just thought I'd throw that in. Great video BTW!
mmmbad 2 years ago
yes -that is what i said a few post below. They are not needed for salt either!
delta69alpha 2 years ago
@delta69alpha
Okay thanks, I didn't see that!
mmmbad 1 year ago
Look for Co Ops in your area. I can get 50 pound bags of organic wheat for $0.50 to $1.00 per pound depending on the variety.
joshaneli 2 years ago
can you get the wheat at the coop?
jlott00 2 years ago
Hey guys, awesome video! Just had a brief question. Would a hair straightener work as well in lieu of the clamshell heater for sealing up plastics / mylar?
Thanks in advance! :)
SpectreXGaming 2 years ago
SXG,
We have a movie that shows how to use a clothing iron to seal the mylar. A hair iron would work as well.
D69A
delta69alpha 2 years ago
Ok there is only two in our family now. We can't use 5 gallons when opened. What do you suggest? Using 1 gallon buckets and 1 gallon mylars? If so what kind of one gallon buckets? The ones w/gaskets too and where would I get them? Also, what type of corn needs to be bought to store to make cornmeal? All I have heard you speak of in your videos are popping corn which you said is a bit course when milled. What's the alternative? Waiting on a reply. Can't wait to get started!
gloriawest 2 years ago
I have Dent Corn, but i have it to make nixtamal for tortillas. I'm pretty sure you would use dent corn for corn meal though. IF you are storing wheat or something else that is whole grain you don't have to worry about eating it fast. It's not going to go bad, so i would stick with the 5 gallon buckets for those things
colbystudy 2 years ago
Rice need water and heat to be cooked If you store rice and you want to use it in a survival situation you may have a problem ....what would you recommend to store that can be eaten any without cooking
5764830 2 years ago
Finish of reply to Brown55061-
Or you could go to an antiques store and buy an old school heat up on the fireplace type cast iron IRON and use that.
If we want to survive and remain free, we have to think outside the box and come with solutions, not just dwell on the problem and think that things are hopeless.
Good luck. "Dave in Idaho"
SurvivalReport 2 years ago
Agreed! Thanks for the info Dave, good luck to us all!
brown55061 2 years ago
Good job. But these little bag sealers wont work when your power is out. And if FEMA takes command your power wont be on, neither will the phone, internet, cell towers, or water.
How can we seal the bag w/out electricity?
brown55061 2 years ago
AE system. Batteries etc. That and a simple propane stove,set the iron on it...and seal. Thinking Outside the box is what will get us by. Not cowering in fear waiting to be shipped off to a tinfoil dream of fema red and blue camps! :P
D69A
delta69alpha 2 years ago
Without electricity- purge the air out once the bag is full like we have shown, take heavy duty duct tape and run a strip where the mylar bag lips meet EXCEPT the last inch or so. Fold the corners in just like we did on the video, leaving the last inch open and push all the air out you can. Then tape the last inch or so. Is at as good as sealing it? No but it will work and it's better than doing nothing. Also, go to an antiques store and get - SEE NEXT POST
SurvivalReport 2 years ago
great instructional video man! 5/5
thank's
M
skillsofold 2 years ago
and can you use a hair straightener
killeninicent 2 years ago
hey is 5 mils ok to use.
killeninicent 2 years ago
I have those irons used for hair, can I use it or just go with the common cloth iron?
volkssturm1 2 years ago
Your awesome, thanx for this video.
Even though I'm from Australia an not sure if I can get the exact type of feed, I am sure there's an alternative.
Thanks once again :)
HarryPottttter 2 years ago
My oxygen absorbers are 2000cc each. Since I will only be using one absorber per bucket should I put the absorber in the bottom of the bucket or the top?
Thanks for the videos and your comments. They are very helpful.
ojmoss 2 years ago
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Is it just me, or did you clearly use only 2 oxygen absorbers in these demonstrations, only moments after harping and harping and harping on how you need to use a 3rd, extra packet, to ensure ample o2 absorbtion? The whole "stepping over a dollar to save a dime" bit in part 1.
misesrothbard 2 years ago
It was explained in part 1 that the O2 's were older ones( over 8 years old) and to be safe that extras could be added to the buckets. There is no need to "save" the absorber with the mindset of " those cost me 13$.." when you reach your recommended absorption rate and you have extra O2 absorbers going to "waste". Just drop them in there. It is better to be safe and have " more" than not.
Whats that saying so many like... 2 is one, one is none ;p
delta69alpha 2 years ago
I knew I missed something. Thanks
misesrothbard 2 years ago 3
I think you need to rewatch the whole thing. I'm pretty sure I very clearly stated that the absorbers we were using in that demonstration were old and we were doubling up on them for that reason.
SurvivalReport 2 years ago
If you listened he said they are going to repack them. It was just a demonstration.
modeesnuts2 2 years ago
Where do you order the mylar bags at this size please? You said this was feed grain can you tell us what type of feed grain and what you actually use this for in cooking?
thanks!
digitalX198 3 years ago
Shop simpler living and add a dot and a com after that. This was wheat and can be used any number of ways including to make pasta, flour, meat substitute, sprouted for vit C, etc. etc.
SurvivalReport 3 years ago
What are you thoughts on long term storage of dog food for human consumption?
13241bear 3 years ago
Sounds like a pretty bad idea. And dry dog food doesn't store well long term due to the fats and oils in it.
SurvivalReport 3 years ago
What sort of food product do you think would be good to store for dogs to eat? I've been watching your videos and have been storing some rice, beans etc for myself. However, I look outside at my poor dog and wonder what she will eat if TSHTF.
ArashiNage 3 years ago
Dry dog food you can get about a 2-3 year rotation out of. Do not bother to pack in mylars, just pour into buckets or barrels. In a few years the top inch or so will become white- where the fats and oils in the food have started to go rancid. Skim that layer off and toss in the pond. Feed the rest to the dogs. It's worked for us for quite some time now.
SurvivalReport 3 years ago
Very helpful video,,,thank you
jimmyshoeshine55 3 years ago
What do I look for in FEED GRAINS? What types of feed grains can we eat?
M0LONLABE 3 years ago
Very new to these types of posts, very informative. Can you tell me if it is worth buying the freeze dried packets or are they a fad. I live in Yorkshire England so not sure what is on offer over here.
deadrebel2 3 years ago
Thanks for the great video. It is very helpful. I was wondering if you can help me with a question: I live in Central NJ and I am having problems finding wheat in bulk. It looks as though my only option is going to be feed wheat from southern NJ. Any tips on finding grain dealers and/or what feed wheats would you recommend to store (brands or important product info)? Thanks again.
0chapstick0 3 years ago
I like Honeyville Grains. Their stuff's a touch pricey but they have a flat shipping rate of 4.95 for orders of ANY size.
However, I was wondering how you get the residual dill pickle or whatever flavoring out of the bucket in order to keep your grains from taking up the taste.
hrdknox2000 3 years ago
The mylar bag keeps that from happening! The buckets are nothing but a vessel to hold the bag of grains!
delta69alpha 3 years ago
Well, I guess the I did the eight or so buckets down in the basement wrong. I just left the tops of the mylar bags open and counted on the rubber gasket on the lid of the bucket, and the O2 absorbers (five per bucket) to maintain product freshness. I'm new to packaging my own storage foods, so your posting really is helpful and informative. Thanks!
hrdknox2000 3 years ago
Glad they could help, your mistake was one of the many reasons we made these series of movies. You should be able to just re seal with o2's and be good to go. Glad your getting into LTS as well, great work!
Bob
delta69alpha 3 years ago
I got into WANTING to store food back in college, but couldn't afford to do so. Over the years I stored, can by can, Mountain House foods in #10 can...beats the heck outta MREs! I've got a good supply of MH but started looking into buckets a year or so ago. I looked at Emergency Essentials' products, but learned that I could to the whole foods myself. I agree with you whole heartedly that there are some items you should leave to the pro's with the #10 cans (i.e. milk, etc.)
hrdknox2000 3 years ago
The best thing to do is to test it yourself and go with what you feel is safe. I would buy a bag, smell,test, and see how clean it is. Then purchase it in bulk if you feel it is safe. If not you can purchase wheat online from vendors like walton,EE,honeyville and the cheapest pre packed is from the LDS with free shipping!
Bob
delta69alpha 3 years ago
Thank you for the information. I am trying to get together a supply of food for my family for that just in case situation so this really helps.
10speedchris 3 years ago
Can I use any bucket (other than cleaner storage) if using the mylar? And where can i get the grains? thanks
SPCkeith 3 years ago
pretty much. I would lean away from buckets that had harsh chemicals,oils etc. Latex water based paint,sheet rock mud buckets etc,wash em out good and you'll be g2g. The bucket really is there to just hold and protect the mylar.
delta69alpha 3 years ago
Awesome thanks for the info. Hey about how much corn and wheat would one want to put up for say 6 months? I grow a garden every year and have at least 6 to 9 months of food stored. I can not grow much corn and wheat so i want to have about 6 to 9 months stored. also what exactly am I looking for? I see feed corn at the CO-OP is that what one would store? Also is there any other place that you can get wheat and corn from? and where do you get the mylar at? thanks for any help you can provide.
SPCkeith 3 years ago
usaemergencysupply(dot)com has a lot of food for this usage (to put in 5 gal. buckets)
chelle099 3 years ago
what mylar bag would you order form sorbent systems they are very confusing on their site ...
what model number ?
no pictures on site and hard to figure out which one is solid silver bag that iwll fit in 5 and 6 gallon buckets
ThePatriotMind 3 years ago
I wouldn't recommend feed grain as it is not cleaned as properly as food grade. Mouse urine, insects & higher moisture content can ruin the whole deal. Wheat grains need to be high protein grade, be double or triple cleaned, & dried. High protein wheat will ensure proper rising when baking. Insert a bay leaf or two(to ward off insects) & 2 oxygen aborbers added to the mylar bags. I even use a food saver to suck air from the bags. I use a Nutrimill grain mill to turn the wheat into flour.
chick4beatles 3 years ago
First off, no one "recommended" feed grain. It was made VERY clear that it was a personal decision as to what to pack. Also, this wheat WAS double cleaned. Bay leaves don't work, trust me, I've opened MANY a bucket of grits, pancake mix, etc. that had bay leaves (lots of them) in there AND weevils. Some "riding" on the bay leaves like it was the Love boat or something!! ALL grains, including those sold directly for human use is exposed to ALL the things you mention. Watch the "Results" videos.
SurvivalReport 3 years ago
I agree with SurvivalReport. Human grade, grocery store grains & flour contains weevil eggs, mouse urine, etc. In fact, I make it a habit to freeze all grain products for 4 days before using/storing. Insect problem solved.
Schmauey 3 years ago
Have you tried food grade diatomaceous earth for those pesky bugs? I have & it works great. One tablespoon per bucket will do the trick.
Notayup 3 years ago
Very few people use DE because of the hazards involved (inhalation hazard) and little rewards of it. Unless you let your grains sit around for months on end before packing, you won't this. Pack them soon after getting them with oxygen absorbers and mylar and you won't need to mess with things like DE, freezing, etc.
SurvivalReport 3 years ago
First off, FOOD grade diatomaceous earth is not hazardous as it does not have a sufficient enough amount of silica in it to be so. Secondly, many if not the majority of dry food manufactures & packagers use it extensively for a reason. It not only kills bugs but harmful bacteria as well.
Notayup 3 years ago
WHO uses it for packaging? Walton, OFD, Honeyville grain, NONE of the major i.e, well known packing houses use this product. The wikipedia page on DE called it an "inhalation hazard" before someone "edited" that part out. It is NOT necessary for packing. If it was, the old grains in the "Results" video here would show infestations, they do NOT.
SurvivalReport 3 years ago
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Not food grade, go down the page a little bit and read second paragraph under safety considerations. Then search string DE & grain storage.
Notayup 3 years ago
Food grade or not the inhalation issues are still present in both of them!
delta69alpha 3 years ago
notayup,walton,EE etc all post on their web sites how they pack their #10's and super pails. The use of DE in packing their LTS foods is not mentioned nor used,per private emails with those companies and others have proven that. Feel free to ask them how they pack .
While we are at it they also do not use dry ice to nitro flush their products. Thanks for commenting and viewing our films.
Bob
delta69alpha 3 years ago
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As stated earlier many companies use it for dry food packaging and storage that's a fact and it has been since the food grade was invented. As far as the feed companies you listed there is a very high probability that it was already added to their grains before it was delivered to them. Do a little research with a simple search for grain storage & DE or ask a farmer. It is also widely used in grains labeled organic as well since it is in reality an organic matter.
Notayup 3 years ago
So in other words you still can't give us a concrete example of who in the food storage industry uses DE in their packing?
Do you honestly believe DE is NECESSARY for long term food storage?
SurvivalReport 3 years ago
"As stated earlier many companies use it for dry food packaging "
email any of the above and so will I in the next 24 hours. ask them this " Is DE used when packing your LTS items you sell?"
I already have and i can say that they DO NOT. So either the packers are FOS or you are. Which is it?
delta69alpha 3 years ago
This is going to sound awful but as a constant source of meat consider buying two sets of male and female rabbits. When the going gets tough and food becomes scarce, allow them to breed and eat the offspring. We have three rabbits, 2 female 1 male and are about to get another male. It sounds horrid I know, but if your'e feeding them yourself (part of our garden crop's specifically for keeping them fed & healthy) then u know the meat's clean, GE free & they r a low maintanence high yield "crop".
TageKaliandrino 3 years ago 3
Actually, I don't think its that awful. My Grandmother kept her family in fresh meat throughout the great depression by raising rabbits in her garage. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker2idiots 3 years ago 7
My mom ate potatoe soup for 2 years during the great depression.
jingling30 3 years ago
Rabbit meat doesn't have enough protein to survive on long term. You would not want to rely on it as your only source of meat.
Notayup 3 years ago
Yes that's a common cliche, but fortunately untrue. Rabbits ARE our meat source with occasionally a deer (though not in a year) and occasionally some chicken (not in 2 years). People also say you'll "starve" on them because they have no fat- maybe scrawny wild rabbit but definitely NOT home raised. We will have some videos on rabbit raising out soon and you will SEE the fat. We have a 9 year old son that's only ever eaten rabbit, some chicken and some deer. He's totally healthy and strong!
SurvivalReport 3 years ago
I never said there is anything wrong with rabbit as a supplementary food source. Rabbit meat is too lean as a SOLE source of meat. It has the lowest amount of protein compared to beef, chicken, turkey, pork ect. and the lowest amount of fat as well. Your body needs fat to function properly. With out it can lead to liver failure and ultimate death. That is one of the reasons people that try zero fat diets usually end up in the emergency room. Do a search on "rabbit starvation it is fact.
Notayup 3 years ago
See I wasn't talking about a "supplementary food source" we were both talking about it as THE source of meat. "Rabbit starvation" is commonly attributed to wild rabbits. Watch for the rabbit raising videos, it's hard to dispute video proof of the FAT that is on home raised rabbits. Scrawny wild rabbits might be lean, etc. but I've never seen a home raised rabbit that didn't have some degree of fat on it. I've raised rabbits since the early 90's.
SurvivalReport 3 years ago
THANK YOU!!!
zotanoh 3 years ago
Well I wish you luck! Every "survivorman" episode he largely starves for the better part of a week, no exactly a real long term plan...
And it's not "gready" it's greedy (if that actually is what you were trying to write???) If your going to make stupid comments at least spell correctly.
SurvivalReport 3 years ago 2
What a tremendous learning opportunity. So great to find someone who cares. Thank you so very much!!!
videogrl123 3 years ago 2