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  • interesting story ! great talkers

  • I am a lesbian and I am glad that there are some mormon churches accepting and understanding gays.

  • @Wolfbloodvamps171 The mormon church is one church to my knowledge....which one accepts gay people?

  • This piece is very respectful to homosexuals and Mormons. The path to acceptance really is not paved in the exclusion of those who exclude.

  • homosexual? so what... they are human. God loves them, and people who post such terrible comments about them are not worthy to live in this world. I hope your hatred will be released from your heart...and that the burden will be gine from you.

  • Did you know that people who are homophobic are also gay but they just can't accept their sexuality?

  • yeah, down with all fags! XD

    hahahahahahahahaha

  • You just can't accept your own sexuality and have to bash gays for who they are. I am a lesbian so who I love shouldn't bother you.

  • For everyone who is hating on homosexuals, Where do you think you going when you die? Because Homosexuals offenders are sinners too

  • God is not a She. HELLO?

  • @ironmountain28 How do you know?

  • Seldom are places such as this found without horrendous language and unnecessary misunderstanding..I am saddened.

  • I'm glad I found this. I have a gay friend who is mormon, and homosexual. It was cool to see the parents talking about their gay children. And for those of you who dont think we gay people were born gay...trust me, we were. Why would anyone choose to be hated and discriminated against????

  • EXACTLY!!!! It is so difficult to deal with! I mean, whwn I was a child, I wished I could've changed it... but you can't. And now I've learned to accept myself just the way GOD made me.

  • It doesn't matter whether homosexuality is inborn or chosen. The stigma against it is morally wrong in any case.

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  • You know damn well bitch you not born again.

  • @uraine7626 And....you are???

  • @fraughtonaround What do you mean about that statement?

  • @uraine7626 It wasn't a statement, it was a question. You told someone they were not born again. And I was asking if you believe that you are born again.

  • @fraughtonaround maybe I am not but with so much hatred in someone heart and so much criticizes of others who doesn't effect them as a person one bite...how can they be born again? How can you take a stick out of my eye when you have a pank in yours? I don't condome hatred or criticizism of my fellow man but when that's the only way they know how to do others...something that's they only way they know how to change if someone does them the same way.

  • @uraine7626 I agree with you that if a person has hatred toward others is not born again. But I don't agree that sinking to their level helps them.

  • @fraughtonaround well not all of them...just some of them

  • fucking bigots

  • ...you might hate the smell of smoke but,you don't hate the smoker...you love the baby but,not the nasty diaper. To say that people are born gay is as ridiculous as saying pedaphiles are born to lust for children.Perverted behavior is learned behavior.Does God hate homosexuals? No,he loves them...he hates what they do.

  • Right... so you're saying... you learned to be straight? (assuming that you are). Did someone sit you down one day and tell you to appreciate the way women look and you learned over time to like women? Please. You're a moron. Do some research, there is plenty of evidence that shows that Homosexuality is biologically influenced.

  • my oldest sister is my half sister. my mother had her with another man. she is straight. then she married my father and they had four children. including me. they got divorced when i was two. all four of us turned out gay. when i was six i had a crush on Brad pitt. i remember it vividly. I was attracted to men since i can remember. i'm very sure i was born gay. no one taught me.

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  • @lenopalmer There is a big difference between a child molester a gay person. A gay couple is consensual, and of the age to be able to consent.

  • ....Homosexuals will settle for nothing less then to be told that homosexuality is OK and that there is nothing wrong with it.They are looking to the world to give them the "green light." Who determines what is right or wrong...God or mans opinions.I'll go with God.How do we know God's will? Thru his scriptures and Prophets.The Bible is reliable and the Book of Mormon is true.God loves Homosexuals and we should too but,he does not love thier filthy behavior.

  • YOU BELIEVE GOD CAME TO A MAN IN AMERICA! the bible is a load of shit written by man not God. you are part of a religion that used to approve polygamy. but a monogamous homosexual relationship is bad? please, burn in the hell you believe in. please. i'll see you there.

  • Why are u going to hell???

  • more like: "WHY do u want to go to hell?"

  • @BowDownToTheQueen First thing, mormons don't believe in a burning hell like that.....also, that brings up, if we can accept same sex marriage, why can we not accept CONSENSUAL polygamy?

  • @fraughtonaround I didn't say we couldn't accept consensual polygamy... you guys did. when you pushed for the definition of marriage to be between one man and one woman... Guess you should be on our side.

  • @BowDownToTheQueen Why did you say "you guys"? I never said I was mormon. And I guess I am on your side, I just thought you implied by your last comment that consensual polygamy wasn't ok.

  • @fraughtonaround its not really my cup of tea but i'd be quite the hypocrite for that to be why i stood against it....

  • According to LDS Doctrine, Homosexuals will never be able to achieve Celestial Glory. however, doesnt mean that they go strait to hell either. Personally its something that I have wrangled with since I was a teenager. Do we show distaine or tolerance as Christains? The Bible teaches tolerance. So i go with that, doesnt mean I support it, just means that I compasion and understanding.

  • you are a gift from God. You are a true Christian. you are a beacon. continue truckin

  • I love this family they r good people!

  • hummmmmmmmmm yep

  • Becoming homosexual? Can you do that the same way you can choose to become lactose intolerant?

  • becoming...do you mean starting to act on gay impulses. anyhow, many people proceed in same sex relations with balance and faithfulness. you might not have witnessed it but that does not stopn it from happening

  • I don't get why people turn to a religion.

  • This is a bunch of crap mormons or lds people are not homosexual and they stongly believe in not being so if you are going to say we are you are lying i am mormon and this is a bunch of crap

  • Sure we should. Why not. If there really is a God. He made people gay and straight so blame him not people.

  • no people choose and we were not meant to be gay or homosexual people who think they are are just not right in the head

  • do u choose be straight?

  • I'm afraid you've no idea what you're talking about, mate.

  • How do you know it is wrong. The bible is unreliable and The book of mormom is a lie. So we must turn to science. It tells us that some animals (Humans are animals) display homosexual behavior but usually they are the minority. So this tells us it is normal. Do you choose to be a conservative Christian straight asshole.

  • born being homosexual

    born gay ** BisexualCenter dotcom **

  • I do think regardless of orientation, it is something separate from behavior or even thoughts.

    Very interesting story.

  • It's sad that your life is so ugly that all you can see is the ugly

  • I certainly don't think that homosexuals can 'get well', as you put it. Homosexuality is not an illness. You can't 'fix' it. Homosexuals are attracted to people of the same sex the way that straight people are attracted to one another. It's not like you 'decide' to be gay.

  • I just had to point out to those who read this crap, that Spitzer's study was rejected by the APA for poor scientific practices AND Spitzer himself does not support NARTH and denounces their abuse of his research.

    This ziglet guy is full of pseudo-scientific right-wing Christian crap.

  • If you have religious or other convictions that make you feel like you should change, or have to change, then I say go for it ... but society and all but a few homosexuals would be better off not endouring that just to conform to the comforts of some.

    And yea, NARTH has been blowing the APA's change of wording a little out of proportion ... but the APA's internal stance on the effectiveness of 'conversion therapy' has really not changed ( and inline with even studies funded by Exodus ).

  • What data did the APA use to remove it from the DSM in 1973? This was prompted by homosexuals within. Not by any scientific study. The whole picture must be studied. And the APA has softened their stance on this. This is evident when comparing their brochure from 1998 to their most recent one. They may be catching up with science.

  • I'm so sorry these people had difficulty. I'm so sorry the LDS church now feels they have to "address" this. I'm so sorry everybody's so conflicted. I'm sorry so many people feel pain. But it's all an illusion. The pain is an illusion, the insight is an illusion, the "salvation" and "restoration" is an illusion, and so forth and so on. Illusion leads to pain. In my own experience, for what that's worth, release is only found in ACIM. Google it.

  • haha. guess what i think... i think that all mormons are homosexuals.. bahahha

  • i suppose that this is the longuest video on youtube right now ! 48 minutes and 43 secs !! :o

  • imagine a world where ALL heterosexuals were forced to suppress their desires/feelings about the opposite gender.....wow.

    It's really funny. I will add it to my profile on ***gaysinglehunt.com_***. It's our own community.Share lots of such gay vids, music, article and romantic stories with lots of gay friends.

  • It's always funny how when a religion topic comes up and the debate is regarding whether being "gay" is a sin, many people have different views. This is because christianity isn't a unified religion. There are a million different versions. I used to be a Christian, but I can't follow something that isn't unified. Oh, and if you honestly think being gay is a "sin" and will send you to hell, well then I also believe cows can really fly.

  • What a beautifully done video this was. I appreciate the reverent spirit dealing with these people's experiences with homosexuality. I am grateful to see parents as loving and welcoming. I am glad such people exist.

  • imagine a world where ALL heterosexuals were forced to suppress their desires/feelings about the opposite gender.....wow.

  • All Religion is Control

    The Naked Truth part 1/12 by Jordan Maxwell

    LDS, Kolob nearest planet to God hmmmmm

    sounds like God is an Anunnaki=ET

    Jesus & Satan.....Amen & Set......Sun & Moon

    Matt 28:18-20 End Of Age=Zodiac Calendar=Pegan

  • It's a family.

  • This was very informative, I appreciate what the guy who spoke the longest was talking about, I am a gay convert mormon and it's hard to digest the feelings & yet live a righteous life.

  • P.S. Go watch a fun video.

  • Alright, I didn't watch this whole video. To me it's a waist of time. I am a Utah Mormon and I would like to say I was always taught to love each family member and friend the same. I would like to say that we don't have to love everything they do. That should be the case for everyone in every religion.

  • What exactly do Mormons believe? That Joseph Smith is God? Or similar?

  • actually he doesnt he loves everyone

  • God loved King David, a perverse murderer. God loved Moses, a wild-eyed man of the desert who murdered. God did great things with these men despite their frailty. Remember the great commandments Jesus gave? Love your neighbor as yourself, but love God with everything you have. By saying God hates a faggot/gay, you greatly error. Read your bible!

  • You are right, Jesus does not hate a homosexual (drunkard, drug addict, murderer etc..)but he hates the sin being commited. and if that person does NOT

  • continued from above...

    repent and TURN from their sins and ask Jesus into their lives...Jesus says they will surely perish and exist in hell for ETERNITY!!

  • I know! Sadly most of the people I meet here are atheists and homosexuals. :-(

  • Jesus says they will surely perish and exist in hell for ETERNITY!!

    ...because he loves us? The Bible truly is insane.

  • He does love everyone that he created...But, that does not mean you can do whatever you want.(Sin in the eyes of God)

    It's amazing to me how naive people are, they just don't get it!!

  • ...but God created sin. He also created us (according to you lot anyway) knowing exactly what we would look like, how we would behave and how we would act.

    If you want to believe in God that's fine, but realise that logically an omnipotent God is responsible for EVERYTHING in the universe. Stop picking and choosing the parts of reality you agree with.

  • No, God did not create sin. God is holy and He would not create that which is contrary to His nature. Sinfulness is the opposite of holiness. It is lawlessness (1 John 3:4). God is the author of the Law which is a reflection of His holy character (Exodus 20).

  • No, God did not create sin.

    Then something was created outside of God's control, and therefore God is NOT all powerful :D I find it highly amusing that a few mortals can prove your so-called perfect God wrong, and so many times too. Lol.

  • God did not directly create sin or evil. Humans are the ones who sin and cause evil. But God did create humans with the ability to do evil, because He wanted us to have free will. So you can't blame God for creating sin, you can only brame him for making you free to sin. If you sin, it's still your responsibility. As for homosexuals going to hell, noboby can go to hell unless they wilfully do something they see is wrong. I think homosexuality is wrong, but I can't say all gays go to hell.

  • God did not directly create sin or evil.

    I'll take great pleasure in proving you wrong too then; your 'all-powerful' God cannot be all powerful if things were created outside of his control. Either your God is not all powerful (which would make sense) or you're a bunch of lying retards; which is it?

  • Just because God did not directly create sin or evil doesn't mean he's not in control. Evil only exists because God allows it to. He's still in control and could end evil. But he'd also have to end free will as we know it. True, God probably can't make a contradiction.

    Even if you think I'm wrong, please don't call me a liar as I base my beliefs on what I honestly think is the truth. One who takes "great pleasure" in proving another wrong does not really stand for truth - only his own ego.

  • Just because God did not directly create sin or evil doesn't mean he's not in control.

    Well yes it does actually; if he didn't create it then he is not in control at all. See? Rationality is not your enemy; you just choose to oppose it.

  • I think you misunderstand. Sin and malice are not created like objects are, they're based on the actions of the individual. Our bad actions don't create a new existence. God decided to give humans the ability to make choices. We can chose to do things God would not do Himself, but only because He allows it. Your argument implies that an all-powerful God would be unable to create free beings! Just because He doesn't DIRECTLY control us like puppets doesn't mean he's not all-powerful.

  • Sin and malice are not created like objects are, they're based on the actions of the individual.

    Regardless, you say that they exist. And if they exist, God must have created them. How can you say that God is all powerful and has control over everything, then go onto say that he hasn't created something that exists? Please explain.

  • "How can you say that God is all powerful and has control over everything, then go onto say that he hasn't created something that exists?"

    Because sin is only a human ACTION, it's not an existence. Are you saying that an all-powerful God would be unable to create free beings able to choose their own actions? That's would be illogical.

  • you're close. arguing that god cant allow evil and still be omnipotent is a non sequitur. but i could understand questioning why god would create a world wher evil is possible.

    why create a world that has both good and evil if god could create a world where only good is possible? the argument is that then we wouldn't be free, but i'd trade that for no sickness or death anyday.

  • Even if you think I'm wrong, please don't call me a liar

    If you don't wish for criticism, explain your theory. You claim that God created everything, but he didn't, but he did. It's not much of an argument, is it?

  • "Regardless, you say that they [sin, evil]exist. And if they exist, God must have created them"

    You obviously haven't even taken the time to read the counter-arguments. Sin isn't an existence that you can put in a bottle, it's an ACTION. True, God created a universe where bad actions are possible. Humans are the ones who choose to do wrong, but they aren't creating something new - they're just ACTIONS. God chooses not to DIRECTLY CONTROL our actions, but that doesn't imply he's not omnipotent

  • I never said something was created outside God's control. I never used the word "create" in conjunction with evil. Human acts - no matter how bad - don't add new existance to the universe. And nothing happens that God doesn't allow. Even if our bad acts created a new existence, it wouldn't mean God's not all-powerful unless we could do it against His will. He allows it. I agree that God relaxes his control to give us freedom, but that doesn't mean he's not all-powerful.

  • I never said something was created outside God's control.

    Then you must admit that God created evil. Simple.

  • Evil is an action. God created a universe where evil actions are possible, but humans are the ones who do evil actions. God does allow it. But since he could stop it if he wished, he's still in control. If he tried to stop our bad action and couldn't, only THEN would he be impotent. Comprendo?

  • bistro39 ....I don't beleive in this so called god. To me its all an illusion, based on the biggest lie in the history and existence of the human race. I didn't exist before I was conceived/born, I'm living every day and to the best I can, because when my time is up, I will say to myself, it has been a privilege to have been born, my existence is over. Exactly the way the human race will go.

  • Why not read the whole argument this time? Evil is NOT something that's created. It's an abstract concept that we use to describe a type of human action. God doesn't create or force our actions.

    For the sake of argument, you could strech it and say that God created the concept of evil by creating a universe where evil is possible. But that concept would never be put into practice without human actions.

  • "Family values" in USA : spreading hatred toward gays.

    Family values in European Union:

    1) One year maternity leave for each child

    2) Ability to add your sick parent to your health insurance policy

    3) Ability to obtain health care policy with "preexisting condition"

    4) Free education system for everyone, even most poor kids

    5) Politicians who do not talk about family values, but put their deeds where their mouth are.

    AMERICANS ARE BUNCH OF HYPOCRYTES.

  • this video kind of freaks me out

    why do the mormons need a vid to

    "gently" guide them into this

    they should accept their children anyways

  • talk about selfish!!! me, me, me....even with Christ you are selfish...you are lost! its ironic that you claim something you are so sure about but have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. for someone who has an educational background you know a whole lot about stupid! dumbass

  • Well im hoping for some new meat ring me 07967710439

  • ProudPS3Owner,

    Why?

    I hate people who say things like I hate fags without giving a reason. If I said, I hate black people (<-- not true) you would expect a reason, a justification.

    Please explain to me why you hate homosexuals (not "fags", that's rude)

  • the true fact of the matter is that the lds church does not Hate Gay people it only hates the act that they commit

  • irregardless of what these people do in practice they are all children of Heavenly Father and should be encouraged to give up teir practices not belittled and scorned i have a gay sone I cant stop what he does i can only love him for the person he is i still however encourage him on the right path he has agency

  • Religion = tranquilizer.

    Everything will become a whole lot clearer once you realize it's just like any other addiction, behavioral or chemical or otherwise.

    It may suck to be sober all the time, but that's better than staying so doped up on religion that you don't even notice the real world passing you by.

  • i totally agree with you, religion may bring some good to the world but it blinds people causing more wrong than good.

  • You sir are an immature idiot and i think you may be reading the wrong materials. Re-educate yourself for the sake of everyone you come into contact with.

  • Everyone, look at this fellows comments. I wont bother to say anything hateful, its evident he's just an asshole who gets his jollies from saying stupid, unethical statements having NO basis in fact whatsoever, mark as spam and move on.

  • There are only a handful of passages in the Bible would seem to condemn homosexuality, but the Bible does not, in fact, anywhere condemn homosexuality as a sin. It is a false teaching formed from erroneously translated passages. Your religion is counting the probability that you know nothing about the concept of language translation and accurate historical context, i.e., your ignorance. But the God of the Bible absolutely requires that you understand those concepts in order to know the truth.

  • hey man, the LDS view on homosexuality isnt just based on the bible, it is based on eternal views of marriage and children and the plan of god in which homosexuality does not fit in. the prophets in the bible do condemn homosexuality very clearly so clearly in fact that there is little difference between different christian groups about it, i dont understand how u are thinking that it doesnt.

  • Jesus and the prophets did not speak in the King's English. The original Bible texts were written in ancient Hebrew, Aramiac, and Greek. Those so-called homo-condemning passages are examples of how some scripture was erroneously translated from the original language they were written in. The Bible does not condemn homosexuality- it's a lie.

  • MySecretPunkn... You are so full of shit... but, who cares.. your just more fule for the fire.HA HA

  • LOL, you need to go back and read my comment. How is that not clear?

  • i totaly agree with u that the bible has many errors and is an incompelet text. what i was saying before was that the lds view on homosexuality isnt just from the bible, its from eternal views. the LDS church believes in a modern living prophet who speak with god and teaches the eternal plan of god in which marriage is the centre for his children. read the 'proclaimation to the world' which is an official statement from the prophet.

  • oakfire12,

    If homosexuality does not fit in with the plan of god then why did he make them. God is supposedly omnipotent and omnicient. He would have the power and foresight not to create them or let them come into existence.

  • yeah and if god didnt want all those people in iraq to die then we wouldnt have created america.... duhhh

  • wtf

  • BITCH YOU ARE GAY!!! You're dumb comment only confirms it!

  • so if these videos are issued by LDS, are they condoning homosexuality?

  • Please, "EDUCATE YOUR THINKING".

    That's the only weapon against ignorance and hipocracy. Try to fill other people's shoes and get out of that comfort zone that allows you to judge others... Gay or Straight...

    Peace

  • Be a g0y, NOT a gay!!!!! Google "g0y" or "frot" or "man2manalliance"!!!!!

  • You are a narrow mined idiot who dosent know what what your talking about. It happens in the womb my friend .

    (There is a piece on 60 minutes on this topic) I didnt

    choose to be that way at age 4.

  • Aids kills new borns and Nuns and Priests and Straight people who cheat on their wives. Oh by the way, Aids is

    a straight disease in Africa

  • i think ignorance is a big sin and god should send you to hell for saying this

  • stop posting these ads! we are watching you, tracking you, & would appreciate if you would just STOP!

  • I have wriiten a song and made a video about the same thing. It's called A matter of fact. Will you please have a look at it? Thanks x

  • I meant to say, I know straight people who are, not straight people are. :-P

  • Some people don't care what the bible says. I am one of them. I am gay, and I know straight people are also apathetic toward the bible. Not everyone is Christian/Jewish/Muslim.

  • Is that meant to be satirical? HIV in sub-Saharan Africa is predominantly among heterosexuals. Viruses don't discriminate. Also, heterosexuals engage in sodomy as well.

  • What a fag!!!

  • Its a slippery slope, when you start legitimizing sexual perversions in culture, where will it end? there are women who have sex with dogs. So what will be next, animal human marriages? Will animal-human sex be the next thing they want legalized?! and what about the whole NAMBLA/LGBT thing? and after that pedophilia/pederasty rights?! NO! stop it now!

    look up pederasty on wikipedia, its totally sanctioned by the LGBT! its even a LGBT portal!

  • lol, now thats just silly, stop changing the subject...as if sexuality of another is ANY of your business to begin with. I love people like you, dyed-in-the-wool DUMB

    BTW - homosexuality is between 2 consenting adults dummy... if you hear a dog, cat, horse, whatever saying "lets have sex" to another person then let me know, by all means ;-)

  • I was born gay, of course Christians are hypocrite and liars they will dictate what is in my heart, and my parents brought me up in hatred, self-loathing fear. Not everybody deserves to be parents, mine did not. You don't teach self-loating to children, ignorance is not an excuse.

  • You chose to be gay and you know it. It is natural human instinct to BREED. Kids arent conceived analy. Your either sick or evil.

  • your an idiot when you were a fetus did you think to yourself i want to be straight or i want to be a girl or boy or that you wanted to a narrow minded bastard. i dont think so,just like gay people didnt choose to be gay .

  • I refuse to believe that even the most flaming gays have never gotten would at a naked chick. AIDS in africa was started by homosexuality and spred to hetero women by bisexual men. Then the straight men got it. There is a brief history of AIDS in Africa.

  • Do you mean " wood " , I guarntee you I have never been hard at seeing an Girl or woman. Aids jumped from Certain Tribes eating Monkey Brains and the Disease was

    spread by Straight men going to prostitutes and bring it home to their wives

  • I did not choose to be gay. Did you choose to be straight? If I had a choice I would not of choose to be a gay.

  • Gay People are every were! Haaaa! I whant to Kill them all! They are sick and perverted!

    The goverment Should take care of this problem and call it "THE FINAL SOLUTION"

    What good has Gay people brougth in to this world?

    They have brougth HIV, STDs, Imorality, turned San Fransisco into San Fransisqueer, and ruined many famalies.

  • Amen brother, gays have brought nothing buy evil to the world. AIDS was perpetuated by sodomy, that shit has been proven.

  • If you are a person of religious faith, shame on you. Saying that "gays have brought nothing but evil to the world" is a horrible statement to say about another human being. If anything thing, you're evil, and spread evil. You sound like a horrible person!

  • what good did they bring. If you are a christian you should read up on sodom and gommorah. The bible shows you what God thinks of gays.

  • Why dont you read that Chapter carefully. Sodom and Gommorah was not about homosexuallity

  • Gays are human?

  • are you in their eyes think about that too

  • If I was "in their eyes" I would try to get help, in reality being gay isn't really a good thing, being gay should be considered a disease, that attacks young children, and creates a bad image in families.

    Gays should get professional help, instead of being proud of their disease; they should at least consult a therapist.

  • no, they should be executed

  • so just because I have a gay son means to you that I should leave the church ? that my family is blacklisted wake up and take a good lok at yourself are you a practicing christian if so read your bible more clearly you are the one that needs help

  • yes they are

  • think before you act is it the individual or the act that they practice that you hate take away the act and these people are the same as you and me and I am straight for the record.

  • Please be more clear on that...

    And no I don't think these individuals think and act the same way I do, The world wolud be better without gays..

  • The bible is a piece of shit and it is MAN MADe.. it is not the inspired word of GOD it is the inspired word OF MAN> It is an outdated book wich has no place in this world

  • 6A confession of faith is a good idea since the lachrymation enhances pheromone reception. A sinus lavage (baptism) can also be beneficial.

    Of course, this is what Christ was talking about at the Last Supper.