@stjester - And your recommendation would be... what? Astronomical concepts go over the head of many ordinary folks, and although I didn't write this analogy, I usually have to resort to simple (and sometimes cheesy) metaphors to explain astronomy to my friends. I see that you're a chemist -- I would be very surprised if you didn't have similar relational analogies to explain chemistry to your non-scientific friends. =)
@djxatlanta It's a pity really that the public isn't more interested in science. It would have been much easier to justify funding science and who knows what new discoveries could have been made? A star, 8,700,000 times the brightness of the sun - strange universe. It's funny - I was speaking to an economist a few days ago who lamented the public's lack of knowledge on economics as well. He said, perhaps if such economics were well known to the public, we would not be in a recession right now.
@crazymelkor - Looking at humans as a whole, we pretty much act just like every organism on this planet -- we reproduce, consume energy and create waste. We are more advanced than most species in that we have commerce, act proactively on future events and are capable of compassion and empathy. However, at our stage of evolution, not everyone shares a curiosity in extraterrestrial matters -- either out of incomprehension or its perceived lack of practicality compared to everyday matters.
@djxatlanta That is something that I agree. The problem is if our narrow, short-term thinking may prove to be a fatal flaw. There are plenty of instances of civilizations ignoring consequences and then collapsing. I wonder if we are ignoring the magnitude of global warming for example. The other question is will we ever become that wise? Evolving intelligence or perhaps through genetic engineering augmenting it does not assure that most humans will use it to anywhere near its full potential.
@crazymelkor - well, the magnitude of all the problems facing humanity in the next couple centuries are such that they're incomprehensible and unbelievable to most people, especially when they sound just as crazy as conspiracy theories. But as you pointed out, history is full of examples where warnings were either underestimated, misunderstood or ignored altogether. I'm glad I won't be alive to see the worst of it, but I'm sorry to see its beginning.
Amazing. There are a couple of other huge stars in the same system.
JohnD20004 1 year ago
"a star that outshines the sun as much as the sun outshines the moon" what a stupid analogy
stjester 1 year ago
@stjester - And your recommendation would be... what? Astronomical concepts go over the head of many ordinary folks, and although I didn't write this analogy, I usually have to resort to simple (and sometimes cheesy) metaphors to explain astronomy to my friends. I see that you're a chemist -- I would be very surprised if you didn't have similar relational analogies to explain chemistry to your non-scientific friends. =)
djxatlanta 1 year ago
@djxatlanta It's a pity really that the public isn't more interested in science. It would have been much easier to justify funding science and who knows what new discoveries could have been made? A star, 8,700,000 times the brightness of the sun - strange universe. It's funny - I was speaking to an economist a few days ago who lamented the public's lack of knowledge on economics as well. He said, perhaps if such economics were well known to the public, we would not be in a recession right now.
crazymelkor 1 year ago
@crazymelkor - Looking at humans as a whole, we pretty much act just like every organism on this planet -- we reproduce, consume energy and create waste. We are more advanced than most species in that we have commerce, act proactively on future events and are capable of compassion and empathy. However, at our stage of evolution, not everyone shares a curiosity in extraterrestrial matters -- either out of incomprehension or its perceived lack of practicality compared to everyday matters.
djxatlanta 1 year ago
@djxatlanta That is something that I agree. The problem is if our narrow, short-term thinking may prove to be a fatal flaw. There are plenty of instances of civilizations ignoring consequences and then collapsing. I wonder if we are ignoring the magnitude of global warming for example. The other question is will we ever become that wise? Evolving intelligence or perhaps through genetic engineering augmenting it does not assure that most humans will use it to anywhere near its full potential.
crazymelkor 1 year ago
@crazymelkor - well, the magnitude of all the problems facing humanity in the next couple centuries are such that they're incomprehensible and unbelievable to most people, especially when they sound just as crazy as conspiracy theories. But as you pointed out, history is full of examples where warnings were either underestimated, misunderstood or ignored altogether. I'm glad I won't be alive to see the worst of it, but I'm sorry to see its beginning.
djxatlanta 1 year ago