Recovered Autistic kids interviews pt 2

[littlelily613]

He still speaks like someone with autism, IMO. He is high-functioning, not autism-free. Autism is a different wiring in the brain. It is not "broken" and cannot be fixed. People with autism can learn through therapy, but they cannot be cured. If they become cured, then they were not autistic to begin with (lots of conditions produce temporary autistic-like symptoms).

[strannick32]

@serial520.

I think you're confusing 'spiritual connection' with 'hypotropic drug trip'

[troutfish70]

This kid was poisoned by metals which acted as a brain toxin That brain toxin and its impacts were treated by mind controlling behavioral techniques The first lie was he was told he was sick when in fact he had been poisoned His mother was lied to his doctor was kept ignorant and the system of abuse just marches on It is a sad reality but the people who claim to want to help us have been killing us and using us as lab rats

[paulwady]

Note his body-language and orientation, as if waiting for someone to strike him at any time? They brought loads of kids to their home & trained him in social skills & he ended up with loads of friends. AMAZING! Must be recovered..

Taking the piss.

Then they discuss his comprehension in reading. Haha! This is a joke?

The Mother has no idea, has she? I want to sell her chelation therapy before someone gets there first! Idiot.

[paulwady]

@paulwady I am sorry to put it crudely, but basically what you have here are two, classic high-functioning Aspies. They all look like that.

Giggle...

[SusanRichardsDay]

@paulwady That is very cruel to say about a mom that is doing the best she can to help her son to learn and be as well as he can. Im sure she worked very hard and she should be commended.

[paulwady]

@SusanRichardsDay Actually No Susan, you misunderstand me. The woman is a very lucky one, who has seriously succeeded as a Mother. For her sons are able to give her what she wants - normal-seeming children.

Tell me. Do you only believe in Disney happy-endings? Or are you a real-world person? This Mom's work is there for us Aspies to see. High-social skills. I was only commenting that, well, they are still autistic, but their futures will be good. So well done everyone. STILL AUTISTIC!

[paulwady]

Respond to this video...A question, please. What is cruel about calling high-functioning and successfully relating and living autistics, what they are?

When they get old enough, they will realize who and what they are anyway. As surely will their parents. Won't matter though. I'd imagine their lives will be good. Very good for aspies, actually. So well done again.

[laila123455]

@11pouncey11 That's horrible.

[Neoherrera]

what is aba?

[laila123455]

This lady is worse than her son!

[creativewriter100]

After he challenges her, he asserts his independence and confidence about having overcome his autism. She then proceeds to counter-challenge and humiliate him, since she obviously felt upset at having her son criticise her approach and praise his tutors instead. So, in a childish sulk she resorts to humiliating her vulnerable child for an injury he never intended.

[creativewriter100]

Also, notice the way he challenges her - 'I was upset because you interrupted me in the middle of something' and then refers to tutors who were also 'willing to play with me,' and that that was the point when he became more mature - implying that the more tolerant tutors facilitated his development.

[creativewriter100]

The comment at the end, about pictures in books facilitating understanding, and then the comment 'It's not babyish', which transparently reveals that she DOES think it's babyish. Also, more generally, it was very vulgar and insensitive of her to discuss his difficulties in front of him in terms that she knew he wouldn't understand. Clearly this is a woman who resents her child and the hardship she went through in bringing him up, and her sadistic little digs are her way of reasserting control.

[creativewriter100]

Her obvious narcissism - expressed in her humiliation of her son (although he might not be able to fully comprehend that humiliation - and that was probably part of the appeal to her - to attack someone who not only lacks the means to retaliate, but also lacks the ability to fully appreciate that an attack has occurred in the first place) - is quite sinister, and makes for uncomfortable viewing.

[creativewriter100]

Part 1 - You're right, abram730. She clearly has disdain for her son and takes delight in reminding him of his limitations and how it was only through her input that he got friends. And asking him 'What makes you think that?' when she knows darn well he'll be unable to reply, so that she can then shoot him down with her patronising comment about why he didn't have friends before the intervention.

[freewaydoggy]

Is the mother originally from England?

[scaleshchess]

what she said about watching the movie before reading the book is so accurate!!

I could never read a book if I didn't have a visual reference to the story.

[zincbender]

He's not recovered. He has just improved tremendously. He's definatly high functioning, but you can't cure Autism. It was easy for me to notice his asd signs. I also have it. It's not really good to assume that a kid with HFA is just going through an awkward stage. Yes, being 13 is hard for anyone but life will always be harder for him. Being verbal dosen't mean that someone is cured of Autism. I have always been verbal but he is actually milder than I am.

[wattaaa]

What a bitch, "YOU ONLY HAVE FRIENDS BECAUSE OF US! YOU'RE A LOSER JOHNNY! A LOSER!"

[whohoo7]

Look up Barry Kaufman, Option Institute. Read Son Rise!

[TwilightLink37]

I have Aspergers. I'm also "recovered" like Will is. I don't think it's recovery that got me to where I am today, it's maturity.

[Renegademoustache]

lol

[ahinski]

Yes "recovered" is a stretch... but take "recovered" will who goes to regular school, does normal 13 yr old boy activities, and has friends and compare him to the non-verbal kids that are stuck in special ed schools banging their heads against the walls. Most 13 year old boys are pretty awkward, stutter, don't make eye contact, say nonsensical things and have trouble with reading comprehension. I wonder what we would think of him if we didn't know he once had a diagnosis of ASD.

[kangoljuice]

well said! i was thinking the same thing. if i didnt know he had asd, would i notice it? not likely; i would just think he was a kid in the middle of the akwardness of puberty.

[thespectacle]

You don't know much about autism. Not all autistic kids are non-verbal that need to be in special ed. I can tell that Will is autistic (High functioning or Asperger's).

I'm autistic and I can show a bit more expression than him. When I was his age I was probably the same though. I have friends and have had boyfriends. No one can tell I'm autistic unless I tell them, but I have not 'recovered'.

[ivanova88]

Will still as autism, probably aspergers.

[anarchy3E]

lies from neurotic mommys that cant handle the simple truth

[tallkkmoore]

I realize that this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but, I think to say that these are "recovered" autistic kids, is a bit deceiving. Yes, they are "improved", but they are still autistic. Usually, when one is said to have recovered from an illness, it is means the illness is gone. Using the word "recovered" implies that they're cured, which, I feel is giving false hope to parents.

[gimpygibble]

Word. I have autism myself, although very mild.

[kangoljuice]

really? my sister is severely-moderately autistic. can you give me an idea of how she thinks???? ive always wondered...

[gimpygibble]

Tbh, I don't really know what to say, since I'm tired and I've been having a huge cluster of anxiety attacks this past month for some reason.

[gimpygibble]

However, I can tell you, sometimes it will be harder for her than it is for normal people for some things.

Just like one of my science projects (it involved drawing a baby face) I could NOT force myself to do it.

Also, I'm quite shy about new things, which possibly explains also why the boy in the video is nervous.

[annanicolewannabe1]

@tallkkmoore Shut up devil! take your negative thoughts else where!

[hereIam0000]

I think it is best not to judge mother and son. They normally say mother knows best. It sounds like she has improved his condition and it is nice that she has bothered to share her story. Lets just respect people not mock mothers of autism ALL THE TIME! Ever heard of peace?????

[superphonics]

I have come to theorize that the toxins act as stimulators rather than existing as the actual source of autism behaviors. I have also found that behavior training with trials or other methods, serve to smooth out the social surface without reaching the actual source as well. The actual source appears to be fear-based and full recovery dependent upon diet with safe but persistent spiritual connection.

[alexisconcerned]

dude. i love you. that is the most lucid serve-up of anything ive seen posted on youtube. i have the same beliefs about asperges/autism.

[Serial520]

@superphonics I feel like spiritual connection would exacerbate the shit out of autism, and create further emotional turmoil.

[Applet2]

where is part 3 (this video cuts off at the end)?

[abram730]

horrible. Pulling the kids strings like that.. Poor kid has to act like a puppet, an animal to make him mom happy. What a selfish and cruel woman.

She wouldn't even let him tell the truth.

[teresamccann]

I am gald to see pro ABA stuff on here and not so much biomedical. There has been more than 20 years of clinical data and researcher showing that behavioral interventions are the best intervention for millions of children with autism(Sulzer-Azaroff & Mayer, 1991).

[popcornwbutter]

This young man has had ABA, but he also gets help from his diet and suplimentation. He is a frequent guest at DAN! conferences. Some children need behavioral support for recovery, but the majority of gains in enjoyment, true personality and emotional connection, happen with nutritional support.