@sertox12345 Let's just say when Su-35 drivers have nightmares its always the F-22 in their dreams... when USAF F-22 drivers have nightmares its always US Navy drivers whole stole their F-22's.
Wow. So cool. We need to buy more of these... We have no money, but we can borrow it so as to continue our war with no enemy while the rise of others thru economy is ignored.
@taekarkung What alien technology you stupid man! The algorithms and formulas of Radar wave dispersion and stealth shaping was created in the 60s from a Soviet era scientists. Go google it for fuck sake. Even americans admit that they made quantum leaps in stealth tech cause of him. Search this shit if you don't believe it. You ignorant uneducated americans ffs!
@ANimouz You are the dumb here coz you can't even interpret my comment properly. It is believed that the American got the tech from Aliens that crash landed their triangular shape craft in Roswell. If Russians could build stealth, they would have done it long before the Americans. Don't have to salvage the F-117 wreckage.
@taekarkung Dude seriously just stop talking trash and sounding like an idiot. Just type "Stealth technology and origins" in google or wikipedia. Aliens and bullshit. Seriously grow up.
@ANimouz You are the one rejecting others like you are the only Mr Right here. Can present tech build another Egypt and Mayan's pyramid today? Answer is no because we do not have tech to mold stones. So who build pyramids. Aliens. Stealth could be reverse-engineered from them as well. It's theory, rumor or inside news but possible. You keep reject things will only end up being left behind.
@taekarkung seriously man. Open a book. Read about Teslas technological achievements and you will see that the technology that has created by humans is far FAR FAAAAAR beyond anything you have imagined. Stupid kid seriously.
@ANimouz Hey you are veering off course. We are talking about stealth tech and you are trying to bring up Tesla coil. Can't deny that Russia has many great inventors and some migrated to US. Sikorsky and Nikola Tesla are both Russian scientists. What you are trying to say is that Russia came up with stealth technology but the fact is that the first stealth aircraft that could avoid detection is carrying US badge. Even Sikorsky first helicopter.
@taekarkung Okey now that proves me how uneducated you are. Tesla and Sikorvsky were Serbian and Polish respectably. Seriously kid. Go read a book and stupid believing in random shit you learned on the internet.
@ANimouz Their names sound Russians to me, anyway they were Slavs, close to Russians still. Same goes to F-35, the V/STOL engine and system were invented by Russians from Yakovlev team but they were working for BAe and Lockheed Martin. So the Americans and British got the fame and name as the 1 that came up with perfected V/STOL. Milk is from Cow but Dutch Lady is the brand. Do you get it?
@ANimouz Wow, you come up with GOD now. What false? If you the one who invented explosive and another person got your formula, perfected it and registered then selling it, he would have gotten the fame. Not you. Remember this! Yakovlev can't claim that they built the F-135 V/STOL engine even though their engineers built it for Lockheed and Bae.
@ANimouz "Stealth technology was made from a Russian scientist check it out and stop talking complete bullshit. Jesus christ"
Nope, the means of mathematically modelling the radar return of an aircraft was worked on by Petre Ufimtsev. USA and other nations were working on stealth shaping well prior to the release of Petre's PTD publications.
Many people think America has overated crap. I'm just glad its our crap. Beautiful work Lockheed Martin. I'm sure it will do what it was created to do good enough.
Just heard on the news the other day and it was confirmed by the defence dept. that all top secret documents for U.S. military aircraft such as the F-35 and satellites-(spelling) were stolen by hackers.
@MokomaSusi don't know why you removed your comment, maybe you realised it wasn't correct. F-22's have been flying the whole times since the "announcement" of a grounding.
They were at northern edge just in the last few weeks, and the OBOGS issue has been found and they know how to prevent the problem for replicating while they get the new hardware installed.
@FXWorldBeater I don't care how good a tank, a fighter or a ship is, in an intense war there will be attrition losses. The Israeli Air Force found this out in 1973, despite being the best of the middle east, still began running out of aircraft. ( tanks too!)
So NO we don't have enough, and YES the F-22 is too damn expensive.
Meanwhile our "allies" fly the latest and best models of the F-15 and F-16 !
The F-35, our government out of money, the aircraft delayed/over-budget, is about to be cut.
@rampking1 F-35 will never be cut ... as congress always says "its too big to fail". We have more fighters than any other nation, 4000 4th gen and higher fighters compared to 700 4th gen fighters in russia.
There's no competition.
Also, those superior F-15K's etc you talk of, I'm not sure if they're actually better than our new F-15C's with the Golden Eagle upgrades. F-16's ... no arguments there, the block 60's at UAE are quite an improvement, but quite expensive too.
@FXWorldBeater We are possibly days away from financial distaster for the government and you can say this?
Because of other huge snafu's regarding the Pentagon in the past, there are in place automatic* safeguards regarding military contracts now....I would have to look it up to be honest, but I am talking about finacial trip-wires that Obama himself couldn't over-ride.
The F-15 first flew over 35 years ago, extra goodies is just buying time.
@rampking1 "automatic* safeguards regarding military contracts now" and what you dont understand is that the legacy aircraft MUST be replaced over the next 20 years, they can't be extended any further.
As of 2010, F-35 spending was almost to $68 billion, or more than has been spent on development and procurement for all 188 F-22s. (FlightGlobal)
I totally agree with you about replacing the legacy fighters.
Damn I can't find the actual name of this congressional military safeguard I refer to ...grrrr.
I have nothing personal against the F-35, but like you are mentioning, many aircraft are going to be past their structural lifetime within the next 10 years.
@rampking1 "As of 2010, F-35 spending was almost to $68 billion, or more than has been spent on development and procurement for all 188 F-22s"
Naturally, the F-35 is a far more advanced aircraft and so far almost as many F-35 have been purchased as the F-22 through LRIP 1-4. The unit price won't start to go down until around 2016 when FRP ramps up.
You can't compare the dev costs of the F-35 to the F-22 in any case. The F-35 program is building 3 similar but different aircraft.
@Xiolablu3 Many of the technologies on the F-35 are a lot more advanced than those on the F-22.
EODAS, EOTS, Later generation radar (but smaller energy output) with more modes and better jamming functions, MADL (f-22 still on the old IFDL), newer generation RAM, newer generation engine, HMD.
What the F-22 has over the F-35 as far as technology is the ALR and some of the classified stealth technology that cannot be shared with other countries.
@FXWorldBeater Are you sure? I am not an expert, but I thought the F22 was a no holds barred air superiority fighter, whereas the F35 was (supposedly) a cost effective multi role platform (inc ground attack) I am ready to be corrected. But I gathered that the F35 was to be the 'new' F16/Harrier, which would be lower cost but that meant it could be fielded in large numbers, whereas the F22 was a 'super fighter' aka the 'new' F15, which was far too expensive to be fielded in large numbers.
@Xiolablu3 yup...sure. the f-22 is a better bvr a2a fighter generally (due to speed, stealth, and the awesome rwr) ... but there's a lot more technology in the f-35. Hence why the aircraft needs 8million lines of software code rather than 2 million in the f-22.
but .... there may be certain classified technologies in the f-22 the general public doesn't know about.
@jeandemetz2009 It is a good aircfat indeed, however with all the faults that have been discoverd combined with a ridiculous price tag for a plane that has yet to be deployed in combat elsewhere, I don't see the justification for having it in service when there are aircraft such as the Rafale and Typhoon which are less expensive, more capable, and are actually seeing combat service at this moment
@wartmcbeighn The Rafale and the Typhoon are 4th generation fighter aircraft designed to take on the tasks that European countries are likely to undertake. They perform those tasks very well. The Raptor is a 5th generation fighter designed to ensure air superiority against the next generation of air threats.
@guns020897 THE AIRFRAME WAS DESIGNED 20 YEARS AGO, BUT THE GEAR AND SOFTWARE INSIDE IS STATE OF THE ART, AND IS CONSTANTLY BEING UPGRADED WITH TECH ADVANCEMENTS, ENSURING THIS PLANE TO BE AT THE CUTTING EDGE.
@myluvforuinsatiable They do wear G-suits to keep blood where it's supposed to be, but my point is that the F-22 is capable of far more than the human body can endure, even with the suit.
@OlderG0ds -"but my point is that the F-22 is capable of far more than the human body can endure"
How do you figure? Most modern fighters nowadays are rated at 9-9.5 positive G's. Thanks to modern G suits and training, pilots routinely exceed that during hard maneuvering.
Yes, high G's can be "damaging," even lethal to a pilot, but it can also bend and break even a modern airframe, and over time, severely limit its useful service life (hence the G limits).
@em745aa while its still classified I highly doubt +9g is the Raptors max. Pilots can only handle that much for a short time as well.
But what I've heard a lot is that the newest fighters are more capable than what a human can take which, also a theory about UCAV replacing fighters over time.
@OlderG0ds I've seen +9.5/-3.5 as its "official G rating. Still, even if it were 1 or 2 G's more, over-G-in an airframe isn't good for its longevity.
And then there's AERODYNAMIC stresses to consider--something pilots don't have to deal with.
-"also a theory about UCAV replacing fighters over time."
Don't bet on it. It'll be a LONG time before UAV's are smart enough to fly air superiority missions on their own. And their G-limits won't be any greater than that of current fighters.
@em745aa ABOUT THE UAV BIT, THAT IS A DEFINATE POSSIBILITY. FORGET COMPUTER FLOW, THE HUMAN PILOT SITS IN A SIMULATOR AND CONTROLS IT FROM THERE, OR IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE EXTREME, THE AIRCRAFT VEHICLES AND EVENTUALLY MAN SIZED ROBOTIC SOLDIERS WOULD BE CONTROLLED VIA BRAINWAVES, THINK AVATAR, BUT TERMINATOR INSTEAD OF BLUE ALIEN. THE TECH IS ALREADY BEING RESEARCHED AND PROTOTYPE BRAIN FREQUENCY PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN CREATED. IMAGINE WHAT THE MILITARY HAS. AVATAR SOLDIERS AND VEHICLES.
@HUEJOHNSON -"FORGET COMPUTER FLOW, THE HUMAN PILOT SITS IN A SIMULATOR AND CONTROLS IT FROM THERE"
Then say bye to stealth (i.e. EMCON) and open the door to signal jamming.
-"OR IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE EXTREME, THE AIRCRAFT VEHICLES AND EVENTUALLY MAN SIZED ROBOTIC SOLDIERS WOULD BE CONTROLLED VIA BRAINWAVES, THINK AVATAR"
Sure... Bring on anti-gravity generators and plasma stealth too while you're at it.
@em745aa THE CAPS STAYS WHERE THEY ARE. AS FOR SIGNAL JAMMING ITS CALLED ENCRYPTION. I SAID BRAINWAVE CONTROLLED, BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY CREATED GAMES THAT ACTUALLY USE UR BRAINWAVES TO CONTROL IT. SO IF THATS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, IMAGINE WHAT THE MILITARY HAS THAT WILL BE THE FUTURE, LOOK HOW THEY OPERATE THE UAV'S, THE PILOT AND WEAPONS OPERATOR SIT IN A MOBILE TRAILER REMOTELY CONTROLLING THE AIRCRAFT. STEALTH IS ON THE WAY WITH OPTICAL CAMO, AND ANTI GRAV IS STILL BEING RESEARCHED.
@em745aa SO PLEASE BEFORE YOU MAKE STUPID, SARCASTIC COMMENTS, TRYING STAYING UP TO DATE ON CURRENT TECH TRENDS AND BREAKTHROUGHS, OTHERWISE YOU JUST MAKE YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A TOTAL JERKOFF. PLZ, THX.
@HUEJOHNSON "STAYING UP TO DATE ON CURRENT TECH TRENDS AND BREAKTHROUGHS"
No matter what means of controlling the UAV is, if you need to send a signal to it, then that signal can be jammed. The USAF knows it which is why heavy GPS and Radio jammers are now sent to Red Flag exercises.
The X-47B is built with a lot of autonomous control features so it can get to where it needs to be when it loses a signal. People are still (and probably always will be) in the loop to pull the trigger.
@FXWorldBeater YOU CAN ONLY JAM A SIGNAL IF YOU KNOW ITS FREQUENCY. IF ITS ENCRIPTED, IT DONT MATTER WHAT YOU DO, U NEED TO BREAK THE ENCRYPTION FIRST THEN YOU CAN JAM IT. IF NOT LINKED WIRELESSLY, THEN THE HUMAN WOULD BE STRAPPED INTO A POWERED EXOSUIT CONTROLLED USING BRAINWAVES, THROUGH SOME KIND OF HEAD GEAR, BASICALLY MAKING MAN AND MACHINE ONE. THIS IS BEING RESEARCHED, BUT IS STILL OFF 10-20 YEARS.
@HUEJOHNSON "YOU CAN ONLY JAM A SIGNAL IF YOU KNOW ITS FREQUENCY. IF ITS ENCRIPTED,"
No no, you don't understand jamming. You only need to know the frequency of a signal to jam it, something that is easy to find (comms to drones are done via satellite, bacn or awacs) over lower frequency bands (uhf) for everyone to hear.
When you can match the frequency (easy for uhf), you just make a lot noise on that channel. Thats how most jamming is done today and thats why comms can be jammed.
@FXWorldBeater JAMMING CAN ONLY BE DONE ON UNENCRYPTED TRANSMISSION FREQUENCIES. REMEMBER WHAT HAPPEND TO THE PRED DRONES IN EITHER IRAQ/AFGAN, I CANT REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY, BUT THEY WERE BEING HACKED BECAUSE THE SIGNALS FROM THE OPERATOR TO THE SATELITTE TO THE DRONE WAS NOT ENCRYPTED. STUPID IF YOU ASK ME, BUT THATS THE REASON. YOU CAN HAVE SECURE COMS IF YOUR ENEMY CANT CRACK YOUR CODE AND DECIPHER YOUR FREQUENCY HOW ELSE U THINK SIGNIT WORKS.
@HUEJOHNSON :THE PRED DRONES IN EITHER IRAQ/AFGAN"
That was not jamming, that was signal interception ... totally different thing. You're plain wrong about jamming.
"Noise" jamming is about making a lot of noise on a frequency. Smart jamming (which the Israelies acheived in Operation Orchard in 2007 when attacking the nuclear reactor in Syria) allows jammers to take control of air defense networks and turn radars away, which is what the Israelies did. That requires encryption breaking.
@FXWorldBeater MOST MILITARY TRANSMISSIONS ARE ENCRYPTED, OTHERWISE THE ENEMY WOULD BE ABLE TO HACK, INTERCEPT AND CAUSE MORE OR LESS HAVOC WITH YOUR SYSTEMS, LIKE YOU MENTIONED. THE ISRAELIES ACHIEVED THAT BECAUSE THEY PROB HAVE WAY MORE ADVANCED GEAR THEN THE SYRIANS DO. JAMMING ONLY OCCURS WHEN THE DESIRED FREQUENCEY IS TRACKED, LOCKED ON AND JAMMED. BUT MOST SYSTEMS ARE ENCRYPTED, JUST DEPENDS ON THE STRENGTH OF THE ENCRYPTION.
I think you're having difficulties understanding the concepts. Encryption does not matter, you don't need to decypher encryption to jam a signal.
The measures used to prevent jamming are frequency hopping and phase modulation of the carrier signal.
For comms and datalink channels running on low bands these are easy to receive, replicate the base signal, then broadcast at a much higher amplitude, drowning out the real RF signal ... jamming.
@FXWorldBeater WELL MY FRIEND, U SEEM TO BE VERY WELL INFORMED ON SIGINT. THEN SOME OTHER TYPE OF TRANSMISSION WILL BE NEEDED THAT IS NOT BASED ON RADIO WAVES.
@FXWorldBeater WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. BUT FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD, THESE THINGS WILL BE POSSIBLE. AND YES YOU DO NEED TO CRACK THE ENCRYPTION TO JAM A SIGNAL. U CAN INTERCEPT IT, BUT U CANT JAM IT. ALL THAT ITS GONNA BE IS UNDECYPHERABLE. THE ONLY WAY TO ACTUALLY STOP THE TRANSMISSION FROM GETTING TO WHERE ITS GOTTA GO IS BLOW UP THE TRANSMITTER OR THE RECIEVER. U OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LIMITED IMAGINATION, SUCKS TO BE U.
@HUEJOHNSON "ALL THAT ITS GONNA BE IS UNDECYPHERABLE"
The original message will always arrive at the receiver, but so scrambled because of the extra clutter that the receiver rejects it.
Its like being blind folded, trying to listen to Bob telling you a series of numbers. At the same time 5 other people with identical voices to Bob are telling you different numbers. Every time Bob alters his voice to distinguish himself, they match it.
@FXWorldBeater YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. IF YOU CANT CRACK THE ENCRYPTION YOU CANT JAM THE SIGNAL. ITS THAT SIMPLE. IF YOU CANT CRACK IT, YOU DONT KNOW THE FREQUENCY, IF YOU DONT KNOW THE FREQUENCY YOU CAN JAM IT. ITS LIKE SENDING A LETTER IN THE MAIL. THE LETTER(FREQUENCEY/MESSAGE) IS INSIDE AN ENVELOPE(ENCRYPTION). YOU CANT READ IT UNTIL YOU BREAK OPEN THE ENVELOP.
LOL, no I'm not, and I'm afraid you've got it completely the wrong way around. As transmitters broadcast, they frequently "hop" between frequencies. Enemy Elint assets have numerous passive recievers (eg. F-22 alr-94 has 30 receivers) each of which switch their listening frequencies 1000's of times per second scanning for non-ally frequencies.
As soon as they get a match they begin broadcasting garbage on that frequency as well.
@HUEJOHNSON so thats how frequencies are discovered ... nothing tricky about it, just damn high response equipment. RWR's and Elint assets are capable of matching frequencies with x-band radars. The long burst, long wavelength signals of l-band and uhf are comparitively childsplay to match for modern military scanners.
@FXWorldBeater IF YOU'RE TALKING BOUT RWR'S AND JAMMING RADAR SIGNALS THATS A WHOLE DIFFRENET THING WHAT IM TALKING BOUT. IM NOT TALKING BOUT AIR DEFENSE. WE GETTING WAY OFF TOPIC TO WHAT I ORIGINALLY WAS TALKING BOUT. THIS DEBATE IS MUTATING INTO SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFRENT. I WAS TALKING BOUT THE USE OF BRAINWAVES TO CONTROL WAR MACHINES, OR EVEN HOW THEY CONTROL THE UAVS OF TODAY. RADAR WAVES ARNT ENCRYPTED, COMM WAVES ARE. BIG DIFFRENCE.
@HUEJOHNSON RWR'S are also used to detect radio emissions (especially on the f-22 and rq-170...etc) ... radio for comms and radar emissions are all the same type of em signal. Eg. this is why TV/ Radio stations are used as transmitters for bistatic radars.
Radar uses exactly the same system of frequency hopping as comms channels do for LPI capabilities.
You stated that communications cannot be jammed and that connectivity to drones was uninteruptable .... its pure and total garbage.
@FXWorldBeater I THINK YOU CANT READ OR MUST HAVE SKIPPED SOME PARTS. I SAID UNECRYPTED COMMS CAN BE JAMMED AND OR INTERCEPTED. ENCRYPTED COMMS ARE DIFFICULT TO JAM UNTIL THE ENCYPTION IS BYPASSED. THE TRANSMITION CAN BE LOCATED BUT NOT INTERUPTED UNTIL THE ENCRYPTION IS CRACKED OR A HARM MISSLE IS LAUNCHED AT THE SOURCE. BAHAHAHA!!! HELL THEY INTERCEPTED THE SAT FEED OFF THE PRED DRONES IN EITHER IRAQ/AFGHAN, AND NOW THEY USE SECURE LINKS TO OPERATE THEM.
@TheMrGuyincognito I WAS WAITING FOR A JERKOFF LIKE YOU TO SAY SOMETHING STUPID ABOUT THE CAPS AND START A PROBLEM. DONT KNOW WHY YOU GOT YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD OVER IT. ITS FUNNY, YOU GOT NOTHING BETTER TO SAY ABOUT THE CLIP, OR THE CURRENT DEBATE BUT CHOOSE TO WASTE SPACE TALKING BITCHING ABOUT USING CAPS. MOVE ON PAL, YOU TAKIN UP THE SPACE MY CAPS COULD USE TO SAY SOMETHING INSPIRATIONAL.
@FXWorldBeater OH I UNDERSTAND, MORE THAN YOU WOULD IMAGINE, JUST DONT THINK WE ON THE SAME WAVE LENGTH, MAYBE YOU'RE BEING JAMMED AS WE SPEAK. BAHAHAHA!!!
@FXWorldBeater A WELL TRAINED HUMAN SOLDIER CONTROLLING A WELL, DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED PIECE OF GEAR IS BETTER THAN ANY COMPUTER ANYDAY. THAT COMP CAN ONLY REACT TO ITS PROGRAMING, THE HUMAN ON THE OTHER HAND HAS INSIGHT, AND IMAGINATION. BEING IN CONTROL OF A ROBOTIC SOLDIER, THE HUMAN WOULD NOT HAVE THE FEAR OF DEATH TO CONTEND WITH AND CAN FULLY CONCENTRATE ON THE TASK AT HAND. YOU MUST BE SPEAKING ABOUT YOURSELF, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU UNDERESTIMATE HUMAN BRAIN CAPABILITIES.
@HUEJOHNSON "A WELL TRAINED HUMAN SOLDIER CONTROLLING A WELL, DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED PIECE OF GEAR IS BETTER THAN ANY COMPUTER ANYDAY"
Watching too much star wars and terminator where the robots miss. In real life, robots and computers are much more accurate, faster, can watch more things at once, and can coordinate information better ... simple fact.
@em745aa IN MY OPINION, REPLACING THE HUMAN MIND IN OUR WARFARE WOULD BE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE WE EVER MADE. IF WE REPLACED ALL THE SOLDIERS/PILOTS/SAILORS WITH SMART MACHINES, MIGHT AS WELL GIVE UP AS A SPECIES AND KILL OURSELVES OFF. HUMANITY MUST BE ALWAYS INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING WE DO. UV'S ARE THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE, BUILD THE MACHINES BUT HAVE THE HUMANS CONTROLLING THEM IN A SAFE LOCATION, AND MIND WAVE FREQUENCY CONTROL(THINK AVATAR) IS WHERE ITS GOING.
Why no thrust vector nozzle engines on the F15 ? f-15 f-16 f-18 could improve there a2a ability w/ new vector nozzle engines,while streamlining there bodies to be stealthy, the russian vectoring thrust is better than the u.s, making there a2a better,su-37 is a machine unmatched by nato country and that pisses me off,more people needs to be talking about it,and stop covering it up,a new model f-22 w/ better vector nozzle engines f-22 in just up and down vectoring,russians are fully veroring
@TheMickyGMan1 HAHAHA Shows what you know. The Mig 35 is in dead last according the the latest MMRCA report. It can't even compete with the F16 or 18, let alone the F22.
@TheMickyGMan1 Have you read the MMRCA report? I suggest that you do because it has the Mig 35 not doing so well. The F16 and 18 are both kicking its ass. From avionics, to instantaneous and sustained turned rates, to better bleed rates, the F16 and 18 are blowing the Mig away. There's even an Indian reporter that said taking off in a mig 35 is like taking off in a passenger jet. That's not a compliment.
OMG, at 1:03 that was intentional. I suggest you read what the French pilots had to say about the F22's power in the UAE exercises b4 making any more comments. You want to talk about lack of power, then look at the Mig 35. Russia boasted about the Mig 35's power. After analysis the Indians said they were not impressed. FAIL.
@TheMickyGMan1 I knew u would say that. If u r interested in reading the report I'll find the link and send it to u. its ~ 150 pgs long. No matter what I say will never convince u. MMRCA is a competition between the Gripen, Rafale, Mig 35, EF, F-16 and 18 for India's next large purchase. They are conducting independent trials on each aircraft. The only thing that favors the Russians is that Russia is the only country so far that is willing to do a total technology transfer to India.
Just... beautiful... BTW, am I only one thinking that shape of Raptor's head kinda reminds me of... a Bottlenosed Dolphin? xD I mean, look at 00:30...
What's the use of all this? Are we somehow getting prepared to an eventual or an impredictable alien invasion or something? Can somebody tell me, please??
man that is nise is the su35 better ???
sertox12345 1 week ago in playlist F22 Raptor
@sertox12345 Let's just say when Su-35 drivers have nightmares its always the F-22 in their dreams... when USAF F-22 drivers have nightmares its always US Navy drivers whole stole their F-22's.
OlderG0ds 2 days ago
Some Su-47 needed here :-D
Hirewithus1 2 weeks ago in playlist F22 Raptor
EVERYONE HAIL TO STARSCREAM (or he will blow the s**t out of us!!!!)
orororo91 2 weeks ago
Sickest jet ever made
SakoGTR 1 month ago
Dear Santa, i wish for Christmas F22 Raptor :$
erminTNT 1 month ago
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"The F-22 can hide but it cant run" Mig-31 Foxhound
Moution23 1 month ago
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Gogogogo T-50 PAK FA!
Better than F-22
Franco13SC 1 month ago
even Santa cant get me one of this
minersss 1 month ago
ONLY THE GREAT FLYERS CAN FLY THAT PLANE
blackmanta07 2 months ago
@blackmanta07 yeah and I am one of them
timoboll777 1 month ago
It's starscream
Legoaustyn 2 months ago
Magnificent
meetMr7 2 months ago
I envy the pilot that fly the f22 god I want to fly that beauty any day.
razor00281 2 months ago
I would kill so many vaginas to fly this plane...
rossco2700 2 months ago
what i would do to fly this plane...
PKVCMOSS 3 months ago
i dont understand why any nation or group would want this type of drama... no country should want beef with the U.S.
kevinf2386 3 months ago
@kevinf2386
What did the US do to your country . . . . give it the Internet?
XKS99 2 months ago
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Wow. So cool. We need to buy more of these... We have no money, but we can borrow it so as to continue our war with no enemy while the rise of others thru economy is ignored.
44pullups 3 months ago
ITS THE STARSCREAM FROM TRANSFORMERS MOVIE
eliraptorx 3 months ago
THe best fighjter in the world.
MyAccount4TrollingU 4 months ago
Gives a whole new meaning to 'Cloud cover'
theozfox22 4 months ago
nice, i like the sharp turning ability, the thing turns into a cloud with all that vapour lol
SASNIGHTCRAWLER 4 months ago
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@taekarkung What alien technology you stupid man! The algorithms and formulas of Radar wave dispersion and stealth shaping was created in the 60s from a Soviet era scientists. Go google it for fuck sake. Even americans admit that they made quantum leaps in stealth tech cause of him. Search this shit if you don't believe it. You ignorant uneducated americans ffs!
ANimouz 5 months ago
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@ANimouz You are the dumb here coz you can't even interpret my comment properly. It is believed that the American got the tech from Aliens that crash landed their triangular shape craft in Roswell. If Russians could build stealth, they would have done it long before the Americans. Don't have to salvage the F-117 wreckage.
taekarkung 5 months ago
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@taekarkung Dude seriously just stop talking trash and sounding like an idiot. Just type "Stealth technology and origins" in google or wikipedia. Aliens and bullshit. Seriously grow up.
ANimouz 5 months ago
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@ANimouz You are the one rejecting others like you are the only Mr Right here. Can present tech build another Egypt and Mayan's pyramid today? Answer is no because we do not have tech to mold stones. So who build pyramids. Aliens. Stealth could be reverse-engineered from them as well. It's theory, rumor or inside news but possible. You keep reject things will only end up being left behind.
taekarkung 5 months ago
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@taekarkung seriously man. Open a book. Read about Teslas technological achievements and you will see that the technology that has created by humans is far FAR FAAAAAR beyond anything you have imagined. Stupid kid seriously.
ANimouz 5 months ago
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@ANimouz Hey you are veering off course. We are talking about stealth tech and you are trying to bring up Tesla coil. Can't deny that Russia has many great inventors and some migrated to US. Sikorsky and Nikola Tesla are both Russian scientists. What you are trying to say is that Russia came up with stealth technology but the fact is that the first stealth aircraft that could avoid detection is carrying US badge. Even Sikorsky first helicopter.
taekarkung 5 months ago
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@taekarkung Okey now that proves me how uneducated you are. Tesla and Sikorvsky were Serbian and Polish respectably. Seriously kid. Go read a book and stupid believing in random shit you learned on the internet.
ANimouz 5 months ago
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@ANimouz
lol it's so sad isn't it.
XKS99 4 months ago
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@ANimouz Their names sound Russians to me, anyway they were Slavs, close to Russians still. Same goes to F-35, the V/STOL engine and system were invented by Russians from Yakovlev team but they were working for BAe and Lockheed Martin. So the Americans and British got the fame and name as the 1 that came up with perfected V/STOL. Milk is from Cow but Dutch Lady is the brand. Do you get it?
taekarkung 4 months ago
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@taekarkung Completely false. Stealth technology was made from a Russian scientist check it out and stop talking complete bullshit. Jesus christ.
ANimouz 4 months ago
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@ANimouz Wow, you come up with GOD now. What false? If you the one who invented explosive and another person got your formula, perfected it and registered then selling it, he would have gotten the fame. Not you. Remember this! Yakovlev can't claim that they built the F-135 V/STOL engine even though their engineers built it for Lockheed and Bae.
taekarkung 4 months ago
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@ANimouz "Stealth technology was made from a Russian scientist check it out and stop talking complete bullshit. Jesus christ"
Nope, the means of mathematically modelling the radar return of an aircraft was worked on by Petre Ufimtsev. USA and other nations were working on stealth shaping well prior to the release of Petre's PTD publications.
FXWorldBeater 4 months ago
black ops???? hack lagg
santorottis 5 months ago
usa usa usa
santorottis 5 months ago
Guys congress wants to cut the f 22 like this so this can be spread to stop congress from doing this
TheMasterplayer1 5 months ago
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THaehn 5 months ago
Who cares what it looks like...as long as someday they splash some Iranian or North Korean jets I'm all good with them.
vvsignin1 5 months ago
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@vvsignin1 LOl not happening anytime soon,.....the much vaunted F-22 has been grounded indefinately
wartmcbeighn 5 months ago
I love the look of the F22. Some dont like it, but I think its awesome. AND I am not a yank! (no bias!)
Xiolablu3 5 months ago
america makes very good stuff
ahmed33980 5 months ago
This thing eats Migs for pre flight practice :)
biggus8888 6 months ago
Many people think America has overated crap. I'm just glad its our crap. Beautiful work Lockheed Martin. I'm sure it will do what it was created to do good enough.
kwmkc13 6 months ago
@653dima say what you want. Its still better then what you got,
USSWISCONSIN64 6 months ago
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F 22 это такая хрень. Дорогой и совсем не маневренный истребитель.
653dima 6 months ago
cool theos jets look bad azz
MAGPUL09 6 months ago
Just heard on the news the other day and it was confirmed by the defence dept. that all top secret documents for U.S. military aircraft such as the F-35 and satellites-(spelling) were stolen by hackers.
megashegem 6 months ago
The most beautiful machine ever to take flight, I wish I wasnt 6'2 and retarded so I could fly it.
cedars30 6 months ago 2
@cedars30 that doesn't make sense
branblock1 6 months ago
Wonder why threy canceled it?
NielsShoe 6 months ago
@NielsShoe "Wonder why threy canceled it?"
Don't need many of them right now, there's no airforce on the planet that even comes close to what we have.
FXWorldBeater 6 months ago
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MokomaSusi 6 months ago
@MokomaSusi don't know why you removed your comment, maybe you realised it wasn't correct. F-22's have been flying the whole times since the "announcement" of a grounding.
They were at northern edge just in the last few weeks, and the OBOGS issue has been found and they know how to prevent the problem for replicating while they get the new hardware installed.
FXWorldBeater 6 months ago
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@FXWorldBeater
I had some spelling errors.
"F-22's have been flying the whole times since the "announcement" of a grounding."
Not according USAF officers. Who to believe... some guy from youtube or USAF.
MokomaSusi 6 months ago
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@FXWorldBeater I don't care how good a tank, a fighter or a ship is, in an intense war there will be attrition losses. The Israeli Air Force found this out in 1973, despite being the best of the middle east, still began running out of aircraft. ( tanks too!)
So NO we don't have enough, and YES the F-22 is too damn expensive.
Meanwhile our "allies" fly the latest and best models of the F-15 and F-16 !
The F-35, our government out of money, the aircraft delayed/over-budget, is about to be cut.
rampking1 6 months ago
@rampking1 F-35 will never be cut ... as congress always says "its too big to fail". We have more fighters than any other nation, 4000 4th gen and higher fighters compared to 700 4th gen fighters in russia.
There's no competition.
Also, those superior F-15K's etc you talk of, I'm not sure if they're actually better than our new F-15C's with the Golden Eagle upgrades. F-16's ... no arguments there, the block 60's at UAE are quite an improvement, but quite expensive too.
FXWorldBeater 6 months ago
@FXWorldBeater We are possibly days away from financial distaster for the government and you can say this?
Because of other huge snafu's regarding the Pentagon in the past, there are in place automatic* safeguards regarding military contracts now....I would have to look it up to be honest, but I am talking about finacial trip-wires that Obama himself couldn't over-ride.
The F-15 first flew over 35 years ago, extra goodies is just buying time.
No, the F-15K is no export model, has the works.
rampking1 6 months ago
@rampking1 "automatic* safeguards regarding military contracts now" and what you dont understand is that the legacy aircraft MUST be replaced over the next 20 years, they can't be extended any further.
FXWorldBeater 6 months ago
@FXWorldBeater
As of 2010, F-35 spending was almost to $68 billion, or more than has been spent on development and procurement for all 188 F-22s. (FlightGlobal)
I totally agree with you about replacing the legacy fighters.
Damn I can't find the actual name of this congressional military safeguard I refer to ...grrrr.
I have nothing personal against the F-35, but like you are mentioning, many aircraft are going to be past their structural lifetime within the next 10 years.
rampking1 6 months ago
@rampking1 "As of 2010, F-35 spending was almost to $68 billion, or more than has been spent on development and procurement for all 188 F-22s"
Naturally, the F-35 is a far more advanced aircraft and so far almost as many F-35 have been purchased as the F-22 through LRIP 1-4. The unit price won't start to go down until around 2016 when FRP ramps up.
You can't compare the dev costs of the F-35 to the F-22 in any case. The F-35 program is building 3 similar but different aircraft.
FXWorldBeater 6 months ago
@FXWorldBeater F35 is not more advanced than the F22.
Xiolablu3 5 months ago
@Xiolablu3 Many of the technologies on the F-35 are a lot more advanced than those on the F-22.
EODAS, EOTS, Later generation radar (but smaller energy output) with more modes and better jamming functions, MADL (f-22 still on the old IFDL), newer generation RAM, newer generation engine, HMD.
What the F-22 has over the F-35 as far as technology is the ALR and some of the classified stealth technology that cannot be shared with other countries.
FXWorldBeater 5 months ago
@FXWorldBeater Are you sure? I am not an expert, but I thought the F22 was a no holds barred air superiority fighter, whereas the F35 was (supposedly) a cost effective multi role platform (inc ground attack) I am ready to be corrected. But I gathered that the F35 was to be the 'new' F16/Harrier, which would be lower cost but that meant it could be fielded in large numbers, whereas the F22 was a 'super fighter' aka the 'new' F15, which was far too expensive to be fielded in large numbers.
Xiolablu3 5 months ago
@Xiolablu3 yup...sure. the f-22 is a better bvr a2a fighter generally (due to speed, stealth, and the awesome rwr) ... but there's a lot more technology in the f-35. Hence why the aircraft needs 8million lines of software code rather than 2 million in the f-22.
but .... there may be certain classified technologies in the f-22 the general public doesn't know about.
FXWorldBeater 5 months ago
@FXWorldBeater Hold it, how could I let this get by me?
How are you coming up with "4,000 4th gen and higher fighters"??
Damn it, just threw out the 2011 Air Force almanac...outside the Navy ,I could have given you specific numbers right now.
Btw, even the Polish have F-16 Block 50 fighters now.
rampking1 6 months ago
@rampking1 and I have in front of me, "The Military Balance 2010" and I can give you exact numbers...
627 f-18a-d
387 f-18e-f
522 f-15a-d
217 f-15e
1280 f-16
130 f-22
Not including prowlers, harriers and a-10's.
FXWorldBeater 6 months ago
@FXWorldBeater So, you are actually talking 3000 and change.
However I differ on all these aircraft being 4th generation.
The F-15 and F-16 both came out in the 1970's and the F-18 was an offshoot of the YF-17, also from that decade.
As the Germans found out about the Bf-109 by mistake, you can only upgrade a good aircraft so far , eventually you need to start with a clean slate.
Does your info say how many of our fighters in our inventory are over 20 years old PLUS ?
rampking1 6 months ago
@rampking1 "So, you are actually talking 3000 and change."
About 3600 all up , so rounded up to 4000. Still ... as you can see, significantly more than Russia, with the world's second biggest airforces.
But then there's support aircraft too ... russia having no dedicated frontline jamming aircraft, about 1/12th the number of awacs and tankers....etc.
Those aircraft are I mentioned are 4th gen or + (except some of the last ones). Generally fighters designed from the 70's onward are.
FXWorldBeater 6 months ago
@rampking1 Russia's fleet of anything 4th gen or better (actually there is no 4++ gen fighters in operation by russia)
226 mig-29
402 su-27
248 mig-31
16 su-34
The rest is old trashy su-24's which would experience attrition similar to the Syrian airforce at Bekaa in a modern war.
FXWorldBeater 6 months ago
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Those dirty coward killers bombing defenseless Libyans day and night since 4 months !
NATO bombarding the conference of libyan bishops in Brega (view from far away)
watch?v=Hpy-psuDz6U
same killing of libyan Imams in Brega,Libya + destruction (arb. engl.subs)
watch?v=xTo9-pXIsuw libyan Girl wants no longer to be bombed by nato day and night and prefers to kill herself
watch?v=7KnHv0VNYqU&NR=1
refugees about NATO bombing: watch?v=tD_-zVadgNw&NR=1
edgar0001 6 months ago
basque people are the original white people..yup better believe it n if u dont, look it up.
TheBasqueLand 6 months ago
153 people are RAF pilots and know they will never fly the best.
cwood4ever 6 months ago
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nice but i dont beliave that is more strong and better that the russian su-35
therocklabels 7 months ago
No way! I was there, and it was awesome!
kunta599 7 months ago
F-22 is the cutest and strongest fighter of all!
jeandemetz2009 7 months ago
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@jeandemetz2009 It is a good aircfat indeed, however with all the faults that have been discoverd combined with a ridiculous price tag for a plane that has yet to be deployed in combat elsewhere, I don't see the justification for having it in service when there are aircraft such as the Rafale and Typhoon which are less expensive, more capable, and are actually seeing combat service at this moment
wartmcbeighn 7 months ago in playlist F22 Raptor
@wartmcbeighn The Rafale and the Typhoon are 4th generation fighter aircraft designed to take on the tasks that European countries are likely to undertake. They perform those tasks very well. The Raptor is a 5th generation fighter designed to ensure air superiority against the next generation of air threats.
AcesHighTrooper69 6 months ago
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I've three F-22s (well, YF-22s) but in scale 1/144. But yes, we need a real F-22 for ourselves.
jeandemetz2009 7 months ago
OlderG0ds. No there are two more incoming! 12 o clock! (hylarious) I don´t understand that people. Well hobbies are hoobies...
jeandemetz2009 7 months ago
I was lucky to see one of these at an airshow :D
glowcode 7 months ago
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Ước gì VN có vài chiếc F này để bay trên đầu hải giám TQ cho nó sợ không dám bén mãn đến vùng biển của ta nhỉ....
trandungnt 7 months ago
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Ước gì VN có vài chiếc F này để bay trên đầu hải giám TQ cho nó sợ không dám bén mãn đến vùng biển của ta nhỉ....
trandungnt 7 months ago
I could just see the crew chiefs hurting as they watch this haha.
408turf 7 months ago
that is an impressive turn
Odysseus154 7 months ago
Fuck the X-wing, I want a F-22!!
mayorcete 7 months ago
But will it blend?
MVA15SEAL 7 months ago
2:25 Hoooooook! At least 9 Gs.
414pwz 7 months ago
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414pwz 7 months ago
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This craptor is the same shit as a chinesian clocks in the markets for 1 dollar :D
DirtyThing20 8 months ago
Wow, this jet was made nearly 20 years ago. Imagine what the U.S military has now!
guns020897 8 months ago
@guns020897 F-35
SuperZveruga 8 months ago
@guns020897 THE AIRFRAME WAS DESIGNED 20 YEARS AGO, BUT THE GEAR AND SOFTWARE INSIDE IS STATE OF THE ART, AND IS CONSTANTLY BEING UPGRADED WITH TECH ADVANCEMENTS, ENSURING THIS PLANE TO BE AT THE CUTTING EDGE.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@guns020897 The F22 was not made nearly 20 yrs ago. It was introduced in 2005. First flight 7 September 1997
Scotishirony 7 months ago
@Scotishirony
Well the prototype first flew in 1990, so I wouldn't say he entirely incorrect saying the design is that old.
drbackjack 7 months ago
@drbackjack yeah i may still have the original popular science mag with this design in it from then
Odysseus154 7 months ago
Wow, this was nearly 20 years ago. Imagine what the U.S military has now!
guns020897 8 months ago
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@guns020897 LOL, ur idiot.
DirtyThing20 8 months ago
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crashed at takeoff.... pricks. workin for misery, and satan
dimensionalyspeaking 8 months ago
THIS CLIPS GETS MORE AMAZING EVERYTIME YOU WATCH IT. HONEST TO GOD.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
0:51 Look at dat ass!
reric4three 8 months ago
Starscream!
GalenMarek20101 8 months ago
UmMm What is the MAximum G Force on it ?
myluvforuinsatiable 8 months ago
@myluvforuinsatiable Doesn't matter because it's well beyond the G's a human body can take.
OlderG0ds 8 months ago
@OlderG0ds So they wear some special suits ? to maintain the blood pressure all over the body?
myluvforuinsatiable 8 months ago
@myluvforuinsatiable They do wear G-suits to keep blood where it's supposed to be, but my point is that the F-22 is capable of far more than the human body can endure, even with the suit.
OlderG0ds 8 months ago
@OlderG0ds oh okay..........its so koool !!
myluvforuinsatiable 8 months ago
@OlderG0ds -"but my point is that the F-22 is capable of far more than the human body can endure"
How do you figure? Most modern fighters nowadays are rated at 9-9.5 positive G's. Thanks to modern G suits and training, pilots routinely exceed that during hard maneuvering.
Yes, high G's can be "damaging," even lethal to a pilot, but it can also bend and break even a modern airframe, and over time, severely limit its useful service life (hence the G limits).
em745aa 8 months ago
@em745aa while its still classified I highly doubt +9g is the Raptors max. Pilots can only handle that much for a short time as well.
But what I've heard a lot is that the newest fighters are more capable than what a human can take which, also a theory about UCAV replacing fighters over time.
OlderG0ds 8 months ago
@OlderG0ds I've seen +9.5/-3.5 as its "official G rating. Still, even if it were 1 or 2 G's more, over-G-in an airframe isn't good for its longevity.
And then there's AERODYNAMIC stresses to consider--something pilots don't have to deal with.
-"also a theory about UCAV replacing fighters over time."
Don't bet on it. It'll be a LONG time before UAV's are smart enough to fly air superiority missions on their own. And their G-limits won't be any greater than that of current fighters.
em745aa 8 months ago
@em745aa ABOUT THE UAV BIT, THAT IS A DEFINATE POSSIBILITY. FORGET COMPUTER FLOW, THE HUMAN PILOT SITS IN A SIMULATOR AND CONTROLS IT FROM THERE, OR IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE EXTREME, THE AIRCRAFT VEHICLES AND EVENTUALLY MAN SIZED ROBOTIC SOLDIERS WOULD BE CONTROLLED VIA BRAINWAVES, THINK AVATAR, BUT TERMINATOR INSTEAD OF BLUE ALIEN. THE TECH IS ALREADY BEING RESEARCHED AND PROTOTYPE BRAIN FREQUENCY PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN CREATED. IMAGINE WHAT THE MILITARY HAS. AVATAR SOLDIERS AND VEHICLES.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON -"FORGET COMPUTER FLOW, THE HUMAN PILOT SITS IN A SIMULATOR AND CONTROLS IT FROM THERE"
Then say bye to stealth (i.e. EMCON) and open the door to signal jamming.
-"OR IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE EXTREME, THE AIRCRAFT VEHICLES AND EVENTUALLY MAN SIZED ROBOTIC SOLDIERS WOULD BE CONTROLLED VIA BRAINWAVES, THINK AVATAR"
Sure... Bring on anti-gravity generators and plasma stealth too while you're at it.
Oh, and fix that caps-lock key, plz. Thx.
em745aa 8 months ago
@em745aa THE CAPS STAYS WHERE THEY ARE. AS FOR SIGNAL JAMMING ITS CALLED ENCRYPTION. I SAID BRAINWAVE CONTROLLED, BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY CREATED GAMES THAT ACTUALLY USE UR BRAINWAVES TO CONTROL IT. SO IF THATS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, IMAGINE WHAT THE MILITARY HAS THAT WILL BE THE FUTURE, LOOK HOW THEY OPERATE THE UAV'S, THE PILOT AND WEAPONS OPERATOR SIT IN A MOBILE TRAILER REMOTELY CONTROLLING THE AIRCRAFT. STEALTH IS ON THE WAY WITH OPTICAL CAMO, AND ANTI GRAV IS STILL BEING RESEARCHED.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@em745aa SO PLEASE BEFORE YOU MAKE STUPID, SARCASTIC COMMENTS, TRYING STAYING UP TO DATE ON CURRENT TECH TRENDS AND BREAKTHROUGHS, OTHERWISE YOU JUST MAKE YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A TOTAL JERKOFF. PLZ, THX.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON "STAYING UP TO DATE ON CURRENT TECH TRENDS AND BREAKTHROUGHS"
No matter what means of controlling the UAV is, if you need to send a signal to it, then that signal can be jammed. The USAF knows it which is why heavy GPS and Radio jammers are now sent to Red Flag exercises.
The X-47B is built with a lot of autonomous control features so it can get to where it needs to be when it loses a signal. People are still (and probably always will be) in the loop to pull the trigger.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater YOU CAN ONLY JAM A SIGNAL IF YOU KNOW ITS FREQUENCY. IF ITS ENCRIPTED, IT DONT MATTER WHAT YOU DO, U NEED TO BREAK THE ENCRYPTION FIRST THEN YOU CAN JAM IT. IF NOT LINKED WIRELESSLY, THEN THE HUMAN WOULD BE STRAPPED INTO A POWERED EXOSUIT CONTROLLED USING BRAINWAVES, THROUGH SOME KIND OF HEAD GEAR, BASICALLY MAKING MAN AND MACHINE ONE. THIS IS BEING RESEARCHED, BUT IS STILL OFF 10-20 YEARS.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON "YOU CAN ONLY JAM A SIGNAL IF YOU KNOW ITS FREQUENCY. IF ITS ENCRIPTED,"
No no, you don't understand jamming. You only need to know the frequency of a signal to jam it, something that is easy to find (comms to drones are done via satellite, bacn or awacs) over lower frequency bands (uhf) for everyone to hear.
When you can match the frequency (easy for uhf), you just make a lot noise on that channel. Thats how most jamming is done today and thats why comms can be jammed.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater JAMMING CAN ONLY BE DONE ON UNENCRYPTED TRANSMISSION FREQUENCIES. REMEMBER WHAT HAPPEND TO THE PRED DRONES IN EITHER IRAQ/AFGAN, I CANT REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY, BUT THEY WERE BEING HACKED BECAUSE THE SIGNALS FROM THE OPERATOR TO THE SATELITTE TO THE DRONE WAS NOT ENCRYPTED. STUPID IF YOU ASK ME, BUT THATS THE REASON. YOU CAN HAVE SECURE COMS IF YOUR ENEMY CANT CRACK YOUR CODE AND DECIPHER YOUR FREQUENCY HOW ELSE U THINK SIGNIT WORKS.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON :THE PRED DRONES IN EITHER IRAQ/AFGAN"
That was not jamming, that was signal interception ... totally different thing. You're plain wrong about jamming.
"Noise" jamming is about making a lot of noise on a frequency. Smart jamming (which the Israelies acheived in Operation Orchard in 2007 when attacking the nuclear reactor in Syria) allows jammers to take control of air defense networks and turn radars away, which is what the Israelies did. That requires encryption breaking.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater MOST MILITARY TRANSMISSIONS ARE ENCRYPTED, OTHERWISE THE ENEMY WOULD BE ABLE TO HACK, INTERCEPT AND CAUSE MORE OR LESS HAVOC WITH YOUR SYSTEMS, LIKE YOU MENTIONED. THE ISRAELIES ACHIEVED THAT BECAUSE THEY PROB HAVE WAY MORE ADVANCED GEAR THEN THE SYRIANS DO. JAMMING ONLY OCCURS WHEN THE DESIRED FREQUENCEY IS TRACKED, LOCKED ON AND JAMMED. BUT MOST SYSTEMS ARE ENCRYPTED, JUST DEPENDS ON THE STRENGTH OF THE ENCRYPTION.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON "BUT MOST SYSTEMS ARE ENCRYPTED"
I think you're having difficulties understanding the concepts. Encryption does not matter, you don't need to decypher encryption to jam a signal.
The measures used to prevent jamming are frequency hopping and phase modulation of the carrier signal.
For comms and datalink channels running on low bands these are easy to receive, replicate the base signal, then broadcast at a much higher amplitude, drowning out the real RF signal ... jamming.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater WELL MY FRIEND, U SEEM TO BE VERY WELL INFORMED ON SIGINT. THEN SOME OTHER TYPE OF TRANSMISSION WILL BE NEEDED THAT IS NOT BASED ON RADIO WAVES.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON .... maybe invent a new form of directed energy with a long range, maybe Steven Hawking will help ya out with that.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. BUT FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD, THESE THINGS WILL BE POSSIBLE. AND YES YOU DO NEED TO CRACK THE ENCRYPTION TO JAM A SIGNAL. U CAN INTERCEPT IT, BUT U CANT JAM IT. ALL THAT ITS GONNA BE IS UNDECYPHERABLE. THE ONLY WAY TO ACTUALLY STOP THE TRANSMISSION FROM GETTING TO WHERE ITS GOTTA GO IS BLOW UP THE TRANSMITTER OR THE RECIEVER. U OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LIMITED IMAGINATION, SUCKS TO BE U.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON "ALL THAT ITS GONNA BE IS UNDECYPHERABLE"
The original message will always arrive at the receiver, but so scrambled because of the extra clutter that the receiver rejects it.
Its like being blind folded, trying to listen to Bob telling you a series of numbers. At the same time 5 other people with identical voices to Bob are telling you different numbers. Every time Bob alters his voice to distinguish himself, they match it.
Good luck getting the numbers from Bob.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. IF YOU CANT CRACK THE ENCRYPTION YOU CANT JAM THE SIGNAL. ITS THAT SIMPLE. IF YOU CANT CRACK IT, YOU DONT KNOW THE FREQUENCY, IF YOU DONT KNOW THE FREQUENCY YOU CAN JAM IT. ITS LIKE SENDING A LETTER IN THE MAIL. THE LETTER(FREQUENCEY/MESSAGE) IS INSIDE AN ENVELOPE(ENCRYPTION). YOU CANT READ IT UNTIL YOU BREAK OPEN THE ENVELOP.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON "YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT"
LOL, no I'm not, and I'm afraid you've got it completely the wrong way around. As transmitters broadcast, they frequently "hop" between frequencies. Enemy Elint assets have numerous passive recievers (eg. F-22 alr-94 has 30 receivers) each of which switch their listening frequencies 1000's of times per second scanning for non-ally frequencies.
As soon as they get a match they begin broadcasting garbage on that frequency as well.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON so thats how frequencies are discovered ... nothing tricky about it, just damn high response equipment. RWR's and Elint assets are capable of matching frequencies with x-band radars. The long burst, long wavelength signals of l-band and uhf are comparitively childsplay to match for modern military scanners.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater IF YOU'RE TALKING BOUT RWR'S AND JAMMING RADAR SIGNALS THATS A WHOLE DIFFRENET THING WHAT IM TALKING BOUT. IM NOT TALKING BOUT AIR DEFENSE. WE GETTING WAY OFF TOPIC TO WHAT I ORIGINALLY WAS TALKING BOUT. THIS DEBATE IS MUTATING INTO SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFRENT. I WAS TALKING BOUT THE USE OF BRAINWAVES TO CONTROL WAR MACHINES, OR EVEN HOW THEY CONTROL THE UAVS OF TODAY. RADAR WAVES ARNT ENCRYPTED, COMM WAVES ARE. BIG DIFFRENCE.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON RWR'S are also used to detect radio emissions (especially on the f-22 and rq-170...etc) ... radio for comms and radar emissions are all the same type of em signal. Eg. this is why TV/ Radio stations are used as transmitters for bistatic radars.
Radar uses exactly the same system of frequency hopping as comms channels do for LPI capabilities.
You stated that communications cannot be jammed and that connectivity to drones was uninteruptable .... its pure and total garbage.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater I THINK YOU CANT READ OR MUST HAVE SKIPPED SOME PARTS. I SAID UNECRYPTED COMMS CAN BE JAMMED AND OR INTERCEPTED. ENCRYPTED COMMS ARE DIFFICULT TO JAM UNTIL THE ENCYPTION IS BYPASSED. THE TRANSMITION CAN BE LOCATED BUT NOT INTERUPTED UNTIL THE ENCRYPTION IS CRACKED OR A HARM MISSLE IS LAUNCHED AT THE SOURCE. BAHAHAHA!!! HELL THEY INTERCEPTED THE SAT FEED OFF THE PRED DRONES IN EITHER IRAQ/AFGHAN, AND NOW THEY USE SECURE LINKS TO OPERATE THEM.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON Right or wrong you look like an idiot using all caps
TheMrGuyincognito 8 months ago
@TheMrGuyincognito I WAS WAITING FOR A JERKOFF LIKE YOU TO SAY SOMETHING STUPID ABOUT THE CAPS AND START A PROBLEM. DONT KNOW WHY YOU GOT YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD OVER IT. ITS FUNNY, YOU GOT NOTHING BETTER TO SAY ABOUT THE CLIP, OR THE CURRENT DEBATE BUT CHOOSE TO WASTE SPACE TALKING BITCHING ABOUT USING CAPS. MOVE ON PAL, YOU TAKIN UP THE SPACE MY CAPS COULD USE TO SAY SOMETHING INSPIRATIONAL.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON no point continuing though, you clearly don't understand the basic 101 concepts of radio, em spectrum...etc.
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater OH I UNDERSTAND, MORE THAN YOU WOULD IMAGINE, JUST DONT THINK WE ON THE SAME WAVE LENGTH, MAYBE YOU'RE BEING JAMMED AS WE SPEAK. BAHAHAHA!!!
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON LIDAR.
bujoun76 8 months ago
@bujoun76 WHAT ABOUT IT?
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
@HUEJOHNSON "MAN SIZED ROBOTIC SOLDIERS WOULD BE CONTROLLED VIA BRAINWAVES"
Why would you ever want an uncoordinated, inaccurate, slow reacting human mind controlling your robot movements?
FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@FXWorldBeater A WELL TRAINED HUMAN SOLDIER CONTROLLING A WELL, DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED PIECE OF GEAR IS BETTER THAN ANY COMPUTER ANYDAY. THAT COMP CAN ONLY REACT TO ITS PROGRAMING, THE HUMAN ON THE OTHER HAND HAS INSIGHT, AND IMAGINATION. BEING IN CONTROL OF A ROBOTIC SOLDIER, THE HUMAN WOULD NOT HAVE THE FEAR OF DEATH TO CONTEND WITH AND CAN FULLY CONCENTRATE ON THE TASK AT HAND. YOU MUST BE SPEAKING ABOUT YOURSELF, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU UNDERESTIMATE HUMAN BRAIN CAPABILITIES.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
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@HUEJOHNSON "A WELL TRAINED HUMAN SOLDIER CONTROLLING A WELL, DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED PIECE OF GEAR IS BETTER THAN ANY COMPUTER ANYDAY"
Watching too much star wars and terminator where the robots miss. In real life, robots and computers are much more accurate, faster, can watch more things at once, and can coordinate information better ... simple fact.
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FXWorldBeater 8 months ago
@em745aa IN MY OPINION, REPLACING THE HUMAN MIND IN OUR WARFARE WOULD BE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE WE EVER MADE. IF WE REPLACED ALL THE SOLDIERS/PILOTS/SAILORS WITH SMART MACHINES, MIGHT AS WELL GIVE UP AS A SPECIES AND KILL OURSELVES OFF. HUMANITY MUST BE ALWAYS INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING WE DO. UV'S ARE THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE, BUILD THE MACHINES BUT HAVE THE HUMANS CONTROLLING THEM IN A SAFE LOCATION, AND MIND WAVE FREQUENCY CONTROL(THINK AVATAR) IS WHERE ITS GOING.
HUEJOHNSON 8 months ago
This HUEJOHNSON guy is dominating the arguments lol!
TheRealHawkeye 8 months ago 5
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Why no thrust vector nozzle engines on the F15 ? f-15 f-16 f-18 could improve there a2a ability w/ new vector nozzle engines,while streamlining there bodies to be stealthy, the russian vectoring thrust is better than the u.s, making there a2a better,su-37 is a machine unmatched by nato country and that pisses me off,more people needs to be talking about it,and stop covering it up,a new model f-22 w/ better vector nozzle engines f-22 in just up and down vectoring,russians are fully veroring
hotrod4you2 8 months ago
2:26 Boy I would hate to see the F-22 turn on me like that... OUCH!!!
5xthejoy 8 months ago
@5xthejoy
You and me both, brother!
145Slap789 6 months ago
...and you get paid to fly this thing thrown into the bargain!
poseywosey 8 months ago
flying this beast is probaly the best job in the world
hmavenger1 9 months ago
151 MIG pilots watched this. lol
OlderG0ds 9 months ago 32
@OlderG0ds lol
VocalIntuition 9 months ago
THE BUGATTI OF FIGHTER JETS
fanaticastype 9 months ago
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look it cant even bring its ass up 1:03
TheMickyGMan1 9 months ago
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f-22 =craptor
TheMickyGMan1 9 months ago
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mig-35 su- 35 is better
TheMickyGMan1 9 months ago
@TheMickyGMan1 HAHAHA Shows what you know. The Mig 35 is in dead last according the the latest MMRCA report. It can't even compete with the F16 or 18, let alone the F22.
asusucks 9 months ago
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@asusucks what are you talking about the MIG-29 is much better than the f-18 and the MIG-35 is better than MIG-29 so u know where this is going !!!
TheMickyGMan1 9 months ago
@TheMickyGMan1 Have you read the MMRCA report? I suggest that you do because it has the Mig 35 not doing so well. The F16 and 18 are both kicking its ass. From avionics, to instantaneous and sustained turned rates, to better bleed rates, the F16 and 18 are blowing the Mig away. There's even an Indian reporter that said taking off in a mig 35 is like taking off in a passenger jet. That's not a compliment.
asusucks 9 months ago
OMG, at 1:03 that was intentional. I suggest you read what the French pilots had to say about the F22's power in the UAE exercises b4 making any more comments. You want to talk about lack of power, then look at the Mig 35. Russia boasted about the Mig 35's power. After analysis the Indians said they were not impressed. FAIL.
asusucks 9 months ago
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@asusucks first i cant find the report second its a peace of shit it is its all indian how would they know
TheMickyGMan1 9 months ago
@TheMickyGMan1 I knew u would say that. If u r interested in reading the report I'll find the link and send it to u. its ~ 150 pgs long. No matter what I say will never convince u. MMRCA is a competition between the Gripen, Rafale, Mig 35, EF, F-16 and 18 for India's next large purchase. They are conducting independent trials on each aircraft. The only thing that favors the Russians is that Russia is the only country so far that is willing to do a total technology transfer to India.
asusucks 9 months ago
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T-50 su 30
pal2A31t 9 months ago
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T-50 su 30
pal2A31t 9 months ago
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T-50
pal2A31t 9 months ago
the new sidewinders will be small enough to get two of them in the wing weapon bays
esengnal 9 months ago
Wow I like that plain it's the fastest think out there
davidwork662 9 months ago
i like that part 1:26
Effecto1234 9 months ago
eargasm!!!
mrhatch14 10 months ago
70,000 lbs of Thrust, is there any plain oops plane that has 70,000 lbs of Thrust?ahh nuff said.
cherylz1 10 months ago
Just... beautiful... BTW, am I only one thinking that shape of Raptor's head kinda reminds me of... a Bottlenosed Dolphin? xD I mean, look at 00:30...
venn2001ad 10 months ago
this thing is a cheat
PlatinicPt 10 months ago
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they should have given every citizen 50 cents each instead of wasting money on each of these crap planes.
cantroos 10 months ago
What's the use of all this? Are we somehow getting prepared to an eventual or an impredictable alien invasion or something? Can somebody tell me, please??
CheManiange 10 months ago