Actually, the picture quality can last forever so long as the disc is made correctly.
Laser rot is due to a problem in the manufacturing process, impurities in the materials, or both.
In the early 1980s, laser rot was mainly caused by impurities in the adhesive that was used to bond two disc halves together.
If a disc is made properly, it will not succumb to rot so long as you take care of it properly and I have discs dating back to 1981 that still play perfectly
This proves that the concept of mimicking CD technology for video playback is not exactly a new thing. I think what they're talking about is digital error correction and electronic film restoration made possible by computer technology.
I found probably the first ET airing on LaserDisc, it's without audio so if you know where the audio version is, link it to mine. Criterion was the first to do Annotated material for LaserDisc aimed at film buffs and film preservation, and ultimately proper HOME THEATRE, which is what I keep stressing since young kids make fun of a 12 inch video disc, and myself in the process of just promoting it's importance
I get leveled with LaserDisc comments all the time in the gaming forums I frequent, shows how really ignorant some people choose to be, after all discs lent themselves to archives and gaming as well, and 5 inch CD and CD ROM came about because of 12 inch video discs, or LaserDiscs. There really is no contested argument that holds one ounce of water!! These people who ridicule me because I promote Beta and LaserDisc can do what they wish, but I ignore their idea to laugh it off
ill bet those laserdisc commentaries were alot dryer, but a hell of alot more informative, back then. my friend had a original LD copy of Blade Runner and Last Starfighter. Probably worth thousands. BASTERD!!!
Criterion sometimes released these mediocre films on DVD, but because it's Criterion it has to be 30$. WTF I just wanna watch the movie in okay quality. Now I have to wait for standard releases, or Korean/Chinese bootlegs ugh. It just sucks when the movie is not the best, but it's only available on Criterion.
@CenobiteVictim Criterion had to work within the business parameters as well, they didn't have sole discretion to choose a film to put out, and they took plenty of heat for working with Michael Bay on his new films, but hey, Bay loved what they did for LD and Home Theater, he's a true fan and that's what is rather cool if you ask me
Laserdisc never picked up but companies like Criterion and directors like James Cameron set the groundwork for the kinds of special features we see all the time in DVD and Blu Ray these days. This sort of thing was absolutely mind blowing back in the 80s and 90s.
@kaiban42 They aren't, but most studios took up the needed effort, You see films being documented AS they are being made these days, and that makes the DVD release
I've got that same monitor. It was intended as a computer monitor (though with a composite analog input), so is a hardy and high quality monitor. Also, I think that LD would look even tighter on a smaller screen. One of my players is hooked up to a 13" Commodore 1702 monitor, my fave monitor of all time. ;)
@Kev50027 Ah? Really? Mitsubishi made a 50 inch home rear projection first. The only problem is that 16:9 and anamorphic did not catch on in the States, and TVs and LDs with Digital Comb Filters and other scanning improvements were the State of the Art early on, but it did cost you, you may remember stand alone Line Doublers costing $4000 or so?!?!
@Kev50027 Casio invented the handheld LCD TV, did they not?! I paid a premium for one with TFT thin Film Transister. Anyway, I hope you are joking. I owned that same AMDEK-1 Color monitor, it was my graduation gift in 86 and served many years affectively, it's a Hitachi picture tube behind the plastic casing, I know for a fact. It was used composite video exclusively but worked well. I did not own a TV before that. My first was a $200 console that was 25 inch, and 32 inch, for both CRT and HDTV
pinkfloyd : I wonder if they didn't know about the laser rot at that point. This clip is a great find. I didn't even get my first LD player until 1991. I'm a blu-ray consumer now.
They were aware of it to some extent because of the DiscoVision debacle. Thankfully most Laserdiscs (but not all) made after 1990 don't experience much Laser Rot. Been lucky so far with my collection having only two titles to show any rot :knocks on wood:
I have that Exact Laserdisc and what they fail to mention is that there are lots of LD's that get Laser Rot. Including this disc. It doesn't play anymore.
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Actually, the picture quality can last forever so long as the disc is made correctly.
Laser rot is due to a problem in the manufacturing process, impurities in the materials, or both.
In the early 1980s, laser rot was mainly caused by impurities in the adhesive that was used to bond two disc halves together.
If a disc is made properly, it will not succumb to rot so long as you take care of it properly and I have discs dating back to 1981 that still play perfectly
TheLegendkiller2100 1 month ago
laser disc was too big wont no way anybody woulda wanted to have movies in that format
Jay80477 3 months ago
This was in 1985? That means Maltin reported this 2 years before Siskel & Ebert focused on it.
acholl980 4 months ago
This will NEVER catch on...
dakax43 4 months ago
This proves that the concept of mimicking CD technology for video playback is not exactly a new thing. I think what they're talking about is digital error correction and electronic film restoration made possible by computer technology.
MIKON8ERISBACK 6 months ago
@MIKON8ERISBACK Actually CD was developed from laser-disc which came out 4 years before the CD did.
ATARI800XLfan 1 month ago in playlist dvd laserdisc oldies faves
I found probably the first ET airing on LaserDisc, it's without audio so if you know where the audio version is, link it to mine. Criterion was the first to do Annotated material for LaserDisc aimed at film buffs and film preservation, and ultimately proper HOME THEATRE, which is what I keep stressing since young kids make fun of a 12 inch video disc, and myself in the process of just promoting it's importance
MetallicBill 9 months ago
I get leveled with LaserDisc comments all the time in the gaming forums I frequent, shows how really ignorant some people choose to be, after all discs lent themselves to archives and gaming as well, and 5 inch CD and CD ROM came about because of 12 inch video discs, or LaserDiscs. There really is no contested argument that holds one ounce of water!! These people who ridicule me because I promote Beta and LaserDisc can do what they wish, but I ignore their idea to laugh it off
MetallicBill 11 months ago
ill bet those laserdisc commentaries were alot dryer, but a hell of alot more informative, back then. my friend had a original LD copy of Blade Runner and Last Starfighter. Probably worth thousands. BASTERD!!!
SouthOCmixdown 1 year ago
Criterion sometimes released these mediocre films on DVD, but because it's Criterion it has to be 30$. WTF I just wanna watch the movie in okay quality. Now I have to wait for standard releases, or Korean/Chinese bootlegs ugh. It just sucks when the movie is not the best, but it's only available on Criterion.
CenobiteVictim 1 year ago
@CenobiteVictim Criterion had to work within the business parameters as well, they didn't have sole discretion to choose a film to put out, and they took plenty of heat for working with Michael Bay on his new films, but hey, Bay loved what they did for LD and Home Theater, he's a true fan and that's what is rather cool if you ask me
MetallicBill 11 months ago
Laserdisc was the best.
The quality was so much better than VHS...
It is too bad that not too many people supported the format.
Everybody was so hardcore into VHS.
Riddler95 1 year ago
Laserdisc never picked up but companies like Criterion and directors like James Cameron set the groundwork for the kinds of special features we see all the time in DVD and Blu Ray these days. This sort of thing was absolutely mind blowing back in the 80s and 90s.
KoolAidManOG 2 years ago 3
deja vu.
i guess it explains why criterion is releasing so few bluray disks... they are still printing laserdiscs.
8)
kaiban42 2 years ago 4
@kaiban42 :P
rkoguy 10 months ago
@kaiban42 They aren't, but most studios took up the needed effort, You see films being documented AS they are being made these days, and that makes the DVD release
MetallicBill 9 months ago
WOW!!! LAYZORS!!!
dankatznyc 2 years ago
Laserdisc > DVD
TrinityDagon 2 years ago
I'm not gonna buy it until it goes down in price.
Xteaphn 2 years ago 4
thats one giant remote at 1:30
mronionsalad 2 years ago
Wow audio commentary on a laser disc movie,i didn't know laser disc was first to put commentaries in movies.
rkoguy 2 years ago
wonder why they are watching on such a tiny TV?
surely they had better TV's than that in 1985
pookie67 2 years ago
Back then if you shelled out money for a good laserdisc player, that would probably what the average person could afford afterward.
lyriz465 2 years ago 2
I've got that same monitor. It was intended as a computer monitor (though with a composite analog input), so is a hardy and high quality monitor. Also, I think that LD would look even tighter on a smaller screen. One of my players is hooked up to a 13" Commodore 1702 monitor, my fave monitor of all time. ;)
retrothing 2 years ago
TVs were only 10" until 1999, when The Matrix came out. Really, what use is a tiny TV if you can't watch The Matrix on it?
Kev50027 2 years ago
@Kev50027 Ah? Really? Mitsubishi made a 50 inch home rear projection first. The only problem is that 16:9 and anamorphic did not catch on in the States, and TVs and LDs with Digital Comb Filters and other scanning improvements were the State of the Art early on, but it did cost you, you may remember stand alone Line Doublers costing $4000 or so?!?!
MetallicBill 11 months ago
@Kev50027 Casio invented the handheld LCD TV, did they not?! I paid a premium for one with TFT thin Film Transister. Anyway, I hope you are joking. I owned that same AMDEK-1 Color monitor, it was my graduation gift in 86 and served many years affectively, it's a Hitachi picture tube behind the plastic casing, I know for a fact. It was used composite video exclusively but worked well. I did not own a TV before that. My first was a $200 console that was 25 inch, and 32 inch, for both CRT and HDTV
MetallicBill 9 months ago
Great video! Just goes to show how Laserdisc enthusiasts were enjoying for decades the things that DVD and Blu-ray users are now enjoying!
LaserdiscFan 2 years ago 8
pinkfloyd : I wonder if they didn't know about the laser rot at that point. This clip is a great find. I didn't even get my first LD player until 1991. I'm a blu-ray consumer now.
Hollywoodsteve 2 years ago
They were aware of it to some extent because of the DiscoVision debacle. Thankfully most Laserdiscs (but not all) made after 1990 don't experience much Laser Rot. Been lucky so far with my collection having only two titles to show any rot :knocks on wood:
LaserdiscFan 2 years ago
I have old laserdics from 1991 but how can Copy them or converted to DVD's and Blu-rays?
dinfg6 3 years ago
I have that Exact Laserdisc and what they fail to mention is that there are lots of LD's that get Laser Rot. Including this disc. It doesn't play anymore.
pinkfloyd95209 3 years ago