@garretnd21 ya its the lead part, you are right. not only is it pretty close to the actual instrument patch, but he also plays the melody like jenks. allbeit not as fluent and fluid as jenkees, but still very ethereal and flighty. Really enjoy this track :D moar original content BV!
This has dub step elements. But it is not dub step at all. Same thing with syncopated songs, people think it's reggaeton just because it has the syncopation. Today's music is hard to define due to the huge amount of influence of the genres. After all... who cares what it is as long as you feel it and makes your head bounce like them taxi dolls :)
but of course u can make ur music however u want, I just think if u want to make good dubstep there are certain guidelines that should always be followed.
nice pre-drop section, but i dislike how theres no suspense and it randomly just goes into the dubstep part. Once your in the dubstep part Im not a huge fan of that ticky hi-hat you have there, i think thats a bit too hip-hop, your should probably look into some better dubstep beats and some better drum samples. I think there's a bit to much going on on top of the wobble bass as well, the wobble bass needs to have alot of presence and crazy pumping compression.
Do any of the people talking about drops know what a drop even is or how to create one? This is dubstep, stop bumming Skrillex and pick up some Caspa or Rusko and STFU
OMG THIS IS THE BEST FREAKIN SONG ON EARTH THEY SHOULD PLAY IT ON EVERY SINGLE RADIO STATION ON FREAKIN EARTH OOOMMMGGG LOVE IS SOOO FREAKIN MUCH! I LISTEN TO THIS EVERY DAY JUUST SO U KNOW!!!!!!!!! ;) :O
From a musical theory standpoint, dub's main focus is the "halftime feel" of the drums. Early dub didn't "wub". When dub started in '98, it was commonly just simply mixing B-sides of breakbeat and DnB into a 2-step feel by literally slowing down the vinyl until it felt like it was played in "half-time". Anyone arguing "no drop/shitty wub" needs to do their homework. This is still dub.
@stickmister321 For the sake of youtube comment character confinement, I dropped "step" acknowledging that the argument was between people who harold Skrillex-era artists as the inventors of the genre. Also, I was speaking from first-hand experience, from a time when no one gave any care for sub-genres and classifying music into a category that has no inherent meaning. Knowing the "dub/dubstep" difference had no relevance to my point.
Care to flex your keyboard and argue more? Get a twitter.
WTF YOU GUYS TALKING BOUT??!! THIS IS DUBSTEP. Doesnt need a drop to be dubstep. Dubstep is based on a bass that wobbles. Rusko is one of the premiers of dubstep producers and he doesnt always have drops. Woo Bass has no drops in it, the whole entirety of the songs has a bass that wobbles. You guys have no idea what Dubstep is. If you think Skrillex makes Dubstep, you're wrong cause he DOESNT.
This does sound like Ronald Jenkees! And I totally love his music, so good job! Agree with the others that it would be cool if there was a heavier bass drop, but good beat otherwise!!!
I agree with comment underneath me. While I don't consider this dubstep it does have the signature wobble sound, it may not have typical dubstep structure but you can tell this guy has musical talent which is far more than I can say about half the wannabe producers/DJs on youtube.
Haha guys.. you see the talent in the production, this is obviously the way he wanted it.. when this mofo decides to throw together a track with a drop it'll blow yo fuckin mindzzz
this IS dubstep. the only thing it doesnt have is a drop. but not every dubstep song needs that. it saddens me to see everybody turn dubstep into such a setup. there's different types of dubstep, just like dubstep is a different type of techno.... on another note this was a nice beat. thumbs up man. :)
@davinjamesify The music he make sounds like hip hop and this isn't a dubstep. This is a hip hop genre and just add with a wooble bass to make it sound like dubstep but it still sound like hip hop. There is no other type of dubstep. you can say that dubstep is a different type of techno no no no it isn't. Dubstep is Dubstep, techno is techno. listen to this first Piano tune by Bar 9 this is the real DUBSTEP and it isn't a techno or something. It is DUBSTEP!
@JrsLelanthos um, no. The drop is what everybody likes, so the creators of those songs add them. this isn't techno, rap, rock, or any other form of music except dubstep. no other music has those sounds and wobble bass. and im not going to listen to somebody that spells you're wrong.
@lookploc Who are you to say whats dubstep and whats not? It is infact dubstep, just because you "wub da dub" does not mean you are a dubstep master. this ts dubstep. It has a dubstep beat, a synth, they whole works...oh and a drop
@lookploc Dude I'm a producer, this is fucking dubstep, if you don't think it is, you probably think it has to sound like Skrillex. If it has a bass wobble it's technically dubstep man.
@DjRaymur But there really is no correct definition for dubstep, yes there are types of music that involve modulated LFOs, but this is what dubstep sounded like when it started out, now everyone thinks it's just distorted bass. If I'm mistaken what makes dubstep,dubstep, because I've only been producing for a year, so I'm not going to be a know-it-all.
@IanBpa Of course, there's no correct definition for any genre, simply because every producer has their own style, but you clearly said if it has a "bass wobble" it's technically dubstep, which is wrong.
@JrsLelanthos Actually, incorrect. Dubstep is form of grime, which means no wubs and pitched shit like your skrillex shit. It also means that drop isn't the main point of the song, it's the bass on it. You faggots sicken me, knowing shit from anything... go thumb up your mothee.
I love how people say this isn't dubstep when it clearly is. Skrillex's crap isn't the only form of Dubstep. This is the artistic side to it. I love it this way.
Ok, if you say this isn't dubstep you have no idea what dubstep is. You can't say "Oh dubstep is just stupid heavy modulated bass" No.... This guy... THis guy right here added some flavor in Dubstep.
Too bad you make typical bullshit dubstep now
GumbyFlexTen 3 weeks ago
James Franco ?
frank0nh 3 weeks ago
can you make the song using only the yellow one? please reply
jibsyeah 3 weeks ago
fuck.... all i can say
BoyerzThe 4 weeks ago
2:19 check die donie z'ne kop ! wat een mongol
19NEYO96 4 weeks ago
What is your glasses brand please?
SBYannick 1 month ago
That was so sick
ballalife07 1 month ago
@garretnd21 ya its the lead part, you are right. not only is it pretty close to the actual instrument patch, but he also plays the melody like jenks. allbeit not as fluent and fluid as jenkees, but still very ethereal and flighty. Really enjoy this track :D moar original content BV!
MrMunchauzen 1 month ago
this really reminds me of Ronald Jenkees. u a fan?
MrMunchauzen 1 month ago
@MrMunchauzen i see where youre coming from. i think its the lead. him or juliano.
garretnd21 1 month ago
Beauty man!
EnriqueRomualdez 1 month ago
THIS IS FANTASTIC!!!!! I LIKE IT! good job
xJanaMarkovax 1 month ago
where did you get the yellow one from?
ad93954 1 month ago
IT'S F****** AWESOME
ad93954 1 month ago
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fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck 1000 fuuuckkkk u ROCK!
MikePsyDf 1 month ago
this is just pure and utter awesomeness. my mind has been blown
AFunnyFatGuy 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
....could it be......is that you god?
imInfernize 1 month ago
Fucken sik all you haterz eat shit !!!
maayaa77 1 month ago
Music really can't get easier than this. It's like watching someone type with two fingers.
GibsonGuitarist666 1 month ago
actually dubstep has many forms, and this is one of them .
ToxicDiNoGames 2 months ago in playlist More videos from lilbizquit
This is not dubstep. Wheres the filth?
iSteezyB 2 months ago
Respect those who still make music using hardware. This is great!
Expressionistix 2 months ago
@Expressionistix dont think hes using hardware!
rcbeatsprod 2 months ago
@rcbeatsprod im pretty sure a keyboard is hardware
PGMinions 1 month ago
@PGMinions really? A midi keyboard is hardware? where does the sound come from? could it possibly be coming from the computer?
rcbeatsprod 1 month ago
@PGMinions yes but of course he used a computer to mix all his sounds.... :D (which he did pretty good by the way)
KingDevil444 1 month ago in playlist DUBSTEP!!!
awesome
licandres01 2 months ago
any tips for future dubstep music makers like myself... i really want to get into this stuff :)
Jeremy10896 2 months ago
Pretty sick
TheCrillow 2 months ago
THIS IS SO FUCKING SICK
summerkicks 2 months ago
Your Lead Solo is sick!
LuukkyLuukkVEVO 2 months ago
whats your yellow instrument
nickawesome328 2 months ago
yeahhh!
SubliminalxGh0st 2 months ago
This has dub step elements. But it is not dub step at all. Same thing with syncopated songs, people think it's reggaeton just because it has the syncopation. Today's music is hard to define due to the huge amount of influence of the genres. After all... who cares what it is as long as you feel it and makes your head bounce like them taxi dolls :)
kapovianco 3 months ago
That lead line is fucking sick!
IanBpa 3 months ago
i love you man.. your like the dopest ever. your drops are so creative
Koenigsegg250 3 months ago
what model keyboard is that? thanks
2fastg35 3 months ago
but of course u can make ur music however u want, I just think if u want to make good dubstep there are certain guidelines that should always be followed.
TheTelepathetics 3 months ago
nice pre-drop section, but i dislike how theres no suspense and it randomly just goes into the dubstep part. Once your in the dubstep part Im not a huge fan of that ticky hi-hat you have there, i think thats a bit too hip-hop, your should probably look into some better dubstep beats and some better drum samples. I think there's a bit to much going on on top of the wobble bass as well, the wobble bass needs to have alot of presence and crazy pumping compression.
TheTelepathetics 3 months ago
The arp pad sounds like the pad in "My Love" by Justin Timberlake as well as the drums going down right after the intro. Just a little observation.
aguilas583 3 months ago
SIiickkkkk
losttoes92 3 months ago
Holy shit this must have taken forever to make, mad props n much respect good looks
surfjat15 3 months ago
who the fuck could dislike this ?
Revellated 3 months ago
a bass drop would have been sick
mrsleak95 3 months ago
this sucks
pandoragroove 3 months ago
the drop is true
JeepManJ54 3 months ago
one of the best tunes i have heard in a long time! good work
Joestepp 4 months ago
nice sound but not dub im afraid
NZN0MAD 4 months ago
FUCK YES!!! i looked this for so long to find it again, every thing except the bass track is legit.
onionbuskut 4 months ago
<3 that lead line !!!
nipstarrr 4 months ago
HOW IS IT YELLOW!!!!!!!!
xXD4rKwO7fXxGaming 4 months ago
what keyboards are you using?
timselman1123 4 months ago
Fucking ignorant teenage trolls everywhere.
Joesoj 4 months ago
Do any of the people talking about drops know what a drop even is or how to create one? This is dubstep, stop bumming Skrillex and pick up some Caspa or Rusko and STFU
Joesoj 4 months ago 24
@Joesoj <<<<<<<kNOWS HIS DUBSTEP
jake062490 4 months ago
dubstep or not thats talentt right there!
Casper58808 4 months ago
OMG THIS IS THE BEST FREAKIN SONG ON EARTH THEY SHOULD PLAY IT ON EVERY SINGLE RADIO STATION ON FREAKIN EARTH OOOMMMGGG LOVE IS SOOO FREAKIN MUCH! I LISTEN TO THIS EVERY DAY JUUST SO U KNOW!!!!!!!!! ;) :O
alicia2oal 4 months ago in playlist alicia2oal's favorites
@thuff420. Agreed
Watupwitthat1234567 4 months ago
From a musical theory standpoint, dub's main focus is the "halftime feel" of the drums. Early dub didn't "wub". When dub started in '98, it was commonly just simply mixing B-sides of breakbeat and DnB into a 2-step feel by literally slowing down the vinyl until it felt like it was played in "half-time". Anyone arguing "no drop/shitty wub" needs to do their homework. This is still dub.
OracleOrthros 4 months ago
@OracleOrthros You need to do YOUR homework. Dub is sub-genre of reggae, where they simply just left the vocals out.
In otherhand, dubSTEP WAS the B-side tracks, of course there were mixes of b-sides, but they mostly WERE the B-side tracks, not the way you put it.
Please don't talk about musical theories, when you don't know the difference between dub and dubstep... brats and their trends...
stickmister321 4 months ago
@stickmister321 For the sake of youtube comment character confinement, I dropped "step" acknowledging that the argument was between people who harold Skrillex-era artists as the inventors of the genre. Also, I was speaking from first-hand experience, from a time when no one gave any care for sub-genres and classifying music into a category that has no inherent meaning. Knowing the "dub/dubstep" difference had no relevance to my point.
Care to flex your keyboard and argue more? Get a twitter.
OracleOrthros 4 months ago
WTF YOU GUYS TALKING BOUT??!! THIS IS DUBSTEP. Doesnt need a drop to be dubstep. Dubstep is based on a bass that wobbles. Rusko is one of the premiers of dubstep producers and he doesnt always have drops. Woo Bass has no drops in it, the whole entirety of the songs has a bass that wobbles. You guys have no idea what Dubstep is. If you think Skrillex makes Dubstep, you're wrong cause he DOESNT.
NuonTv 4 months ago
@NuonTv HAhahah-Thumbs up
MrRumblePak 4 months ago
Do jaja je...
TheZemunci 4 months ago
sounds cool man
RealRapMusic187 5 months ago
NICE WORK!!
goff1491 5 months ago
You have an email?
SMade661 5 months ago
@1:12 you look like squintz from the sandlot hahha
youcancallmesammy 5 months ago
2:12 = drop...
Djb579421 5 months ago
Dubstep or not i would still listen to it!
ssidao12 5 months ago 11
The fact the everyone here thinks dbstep needs wobbles and hard bassdrops sickens me..go back to your brostep please.
l337man4 5 months ago
fuckin good shit man ! good work !
Piwy974 5 months ago
This is not bad... But I wanna go HARDERRRRRR MORE WOMPWOMP MY WOMPUSSSSS
thuff420 5 months ago
This is not bad... But I wanna go HARDERRRRRR MORE WOMPWOMP MY WOMPUSSSSS
thuff420 5 months ago
lol 1.15
KbApimp007 5 months ago
lol 1.11
KbApimp007 5 months ago
what is that yellow keyboard?
flchorton 5 months ago
nice shit man
ScopEz787 5 months ago
its pretty bad
tripleraven 5 months ago
Holy crap, I hate that wobble bass sound.
MomoTheBellyDancer 5 months ago
RONALD JENKEES SON :0
n i thought the song was free .... Lookin forward to keepin it on repeat
Unknownsoldierv2 6 months ago
This does sound like Ronald Jenkees! And I totally love his music, so good job! Agree with the others that it would be cool if there was a heavier bass drop, but good beat otherwise!!!
mikeDJLP 6 months ago
Just imagine how sick the drop WOULD'VE been.......
GRILLEDPILLOW 6 months ago
Ronald Jenkees???
Kevinridesscoots 6 months ago
@Kevinridesscoots HE IS NO RONALD JENKEES
AROMANNNNNN 6 months ago
I do this kind of stuff on my single piano.
NeonVars 6 months ago
what kind of keyboard is the yellow one?
DubstepBoyy 6 months ago
@DubstepBoyy Im pretty sure its M-Audio
spartenurmom 6 months ago
I agree with comment underneath me. While I don't consider this dubstep it does have the signature wobble sound, it may not have typical dubstep structure but you can tell this guy has musical talent which is far more than I can say about half the wannabe producers/DJs on youtube.
OrpheriuM 6 months ago
Haha guys.. you see the talent in the production, this is obviously the way he wanted it.. when this mofo decides to throw together a track with a drop it'll blow yo fuckin mindzzz
1996EJV 6 months ago
500 for the wobble bass keyboard? ;D
syorpheus 6 months ago
@syorpheus its a custom sound he created. its a normal keyboard hooked up to a computer
falkentires55 6 months ago
this is awesome!
falkentires55 6 months ago
yes
TOXICPRODUCTIONS11 6 months ago
hey man, fuck the haters, i like it
DeadpanMusic 7 months ago
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NJBZX 7 months ago
this IS dubstep. the only thing it doesnt have is a drop. but not every dubstep song needs that. it saddens me to see everybody turn dubstep into such a setup. there's different types of dubstep, just like dubstep is a different type of techno.... on another note this was a nice beat. thumbs up man. :)
davinjamesify 7 months ago
@davinjamesify The music he make sounds like hip hop and this isn't a dubstep. This is a hip hop genre and just add with a wooble bass to make it sound like dubstep but it still sound like hip hop. There is no other type of dubstep. you can say that dubstep is a different type of techno no no no it isn't. Dubstep is Dubstep, techno is techno. listen to this first Piano tune by Bar 9 this is the real DUBSTEP and it isn't a techno or something. It is DUBSTEP!
NJBZX 7 months ago
@davinjamesify nope. no drop = no dubstep
JrsLelanthos 6 months ago 18
@JrsLelanthos no, thats crap. dubstep isn't defined by the drop its defined by the bass, and sounds.
falkentires55 6 months ago
@falkentires55 ur wrong
JrsLelanthos 6 months ago
@JrsLelanthos You're ignorant. :)
KounterFitDubNBass 6 months ago
@KounterFitDubNBass yes
JrsLelanthos 6 months ago
@JrsLelanthos um, no. The drop is what everybody likes, so the creators of those songs add them. this isn't techno, rap, rock, or any other form of music except dubstep. no other music has those sounds and wobble bass. and im not going to listen to somebody that spells you're wrong.
falkentires55 6 months ago
@falkentires55 nope, not dubstep
JrsLelanthos 6 months ago
@JrsLelanthos WHAT IS THEN FAGGOT THIS IS DUBSTEP Take a look at wikipedia smartass and you'll see this is dubstep
viviemaster 6 months ago in playlist "the beatblog" by Billy Van
@viviemaster LOL U MAD? THIS SHIT AINT DUBSTEP
JrsLelanthos 6 months ago
@viviemaster You have no idea what your talking about this is not dubstep... I would know bc I wub da dub.
lookploc 6 months ago 5
@lookploc This is dubstep, and its sick too. Just because hes not skrillex or Mt. Eden doesn't mean its not dubstep.
CiseDj 5 months ago
@lookploc i would like to see you do this with only 2 keyboards
MusicTemper 5 months ago
@MusicTemper only 2 keyboards? it can be done with one keyboard and easily done without any keyboards...just some software like fl studio.
RealRapMusic187 5 months ago
@RealRapMusic187 my bad im new to keyboarding i didnt know.
MusicTemper 5 months ago
@lookploc this is dubstep, a simply basic dubstep
pedroromero96 4 months ago
@lookploc Who are you to say whats dubstep and whats not? It is infact dubstep, just because you "wub da dub" does not mean you are a dubstep master. this ts dubstep. It has a dubstep beat, a synth, they whole works...oh and a drop
xPunkrockkid311x 4 months ago
@lookploc Dude I'm a producer, this is fucking dubstep, if you don't think it is, you probably think it has to sound like Skrillex. If it has a bass wobble it's technically dubstep man.
IanBpa 3 months ago
@IanBpa what songs do you have playing or played in the radio?
kapovianco 3 months ago
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IanBpa 3 months ago
@IanBpa Mate, I'M A PRODUCER.
I can chuck a synth with an LFO modulation in any genre I make, wouldn't automatically make it dubstep, would it?
DjRaymur 2 months ago
@DjRaymur But there really is no correct definition for dubstep, yes there are types of music that involve modulated LFOs, but this is what dubstep sounded like when it started out, now everyone thinks it's just distorted bass. If I'm mistaken what makes dubstep,dubstep, because I've only been producing for a year, so I'm not going to be a know-it-all.
IanBpa 2 months ago
@IanBpa Of course, there's no correct definition for any genre, simply because every producer has their own style, but you clearly said if it has a "bass wobble" it's technically dubstep, which is wrong.
DjRaymur 2 months ago
@DjRaymur My bad than...
IanBpa 2 months ago
@JrsLelanthos Well Thats just bullshit
Fabijanson 5 months ago
@JrsLelanthos lol noob
ThcMadness 5 months ago
@JrsLelanthos not the case. you must be retarted
IramDubstep 5 months ago
@JrsLelanthos Actually, incorrect. Dubstep is form of grime, which means no wubs and pitched shit like your skrillex shit. It also means that drop isn't the main point of the song, it's the bass on it. You faggots sicken me, knowing shit from anything... go thumb up your mothee.
stickmister321 4 months ago
@JrsLelanthos It has a drop..... 1:13
xPunkrockkid311x 4 months ago
@xPunkrockkid311x not a drop
JrsLelanthos 4 months ago
@JrsLelanthos Its a drop, final word...Ill call up Skrillex if i must
xPunkrockkid311x 4 months ago
@xPunkrockkid311x come at me bro. I aint even mad.
JrsLelanthos 4 months ago
@JrsLelanthos I'm not saying you're mad I just saying it has a drop
xPunkrockkid311x 3 months ago
@xPunkrockkid311x this isn't even dubstep, and it doesn't have a drop
JrsLelanthos 3 months ago
@JrsLelanthos bitch hear the drop at 1:13
mike103g 4 months ago in playlist Liked
@jordanrakei hey what software do you use?
redXsketch 7 months ago
Thumbs up if you downloaded this on itunes even though its not dub step
Reallifetothemax 7 months ago
I love how people say this isn't dubstep when it clearly is. Skrillex's crap isn't the only form of Dubstep. This is the artistic side to it. I love it this way.
MilkshakeMartin 7 months ago
I LIKE DICK
AntdogLeon 7 months ago in playlist Dubstep
reminds me of ronaldjenkees
but good
and not retarded
Aizakkudub 7 months ago
absalute shit tbh boooooooooo
MrYoichiii 7 months ago
whats the name of the black keyboard?? btw awsome vid
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I DUBBING LOVE FUCKSTEP ...wait
sirancilot 7 months ago
UNCE UNCE UNCE DUH UNCE DUH UNCE DUH UNCE! o_o
funkyduyman 7 months ago
What software do you use?
sharktooth32 7 months ago
Hey, I have to same question as The730Days, can someone tell me what brand and if it's a keyboard or synth please and thank you.
helio69 7 months ago
I know that the yellow synth is a Axiom 25, but can anyone tell what the black one is? Is it a keyboard or a synth, and what brand? Thanks. :)
The730Days 7 months ago
Ok, if you say this isn't dubstep you have no idea what dubstep is. You can't say "Oh dubstep is just stupid heavy modulated bass" No.... This guy... THis guy right here added some flavor in Dubstep.
MilkshakeMartin 7 months ago
Excision - X Session Vol.1 is out guys :O
namehereplz13 7 months ago
wat progame is dis
kswizzbeatz 7 months ago
c minor ftw
miloguy3 7 months ago
This is pretty sick bro. Most dubstep nowadays is lacking in musicality.
Hope your new stuff continues this type of thing.
Anybody who tells you this isn't dubstep is an idiot.
DJBludsport 7 months ago
Timberlandstep? Cool!
AntiPirateSquad 7 months ago
Came across this while trying to come up with something, this was inspiring.
hawaiianbraddah1 8 months ago
AY!
LaLaLaura2323 8 months ago
stop complaining, fucking awesome beat! keep it up man
MrZulQ 8 months ago
loving it
xkirky07x 8 months ago
great tune love it !!! nice work..
jambuckerwarblast 8 months ago
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you are the beat labratory
manpug420 8 months ago
dope work my man
AustinCurtisES 8 months ago
wow like it a lot ^^
nice yellow m-audio =)
ArsiekDHOL 8 months ago
i fucking love it !
MC952010 9 months ago
omygod! this is amazing amazing work! :D
Luda12Plyr 9 months ago
a synth that can produce wobbles at will? madness! a man should not have that kind of power it must be destroyed!
Icecool3r 9 months ago
kinda sounds like a Ronald Jenkees lead line, just can't remember what song.
jberkhimer 9 months ago
very sick beat... ima be jammin to this shit for like a week
:) thank you for sharing your tunes
SnowingChicken 9 months ago
loving this man
Ate0per 9 months ago
this is so legit. you my friend are a true musician. i love the lead solo too. dope vids .. keep it up.
brandonshreds 9 months ago
This is fantastic!!!!
ArGyProductions 9 months ago
Gay!
amokonestar 9 months ago
Who cares what genre it is? This is seriously good stuff! Well done sir!
Mappman 9 months ago
i just bought this, well done!:)
hellohiholaify 9 months ago
POUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DUBSTEP!!! MY ASSS!
Damystqc 9 months ago
IN-FUCKIN-SPIRING MAN!
vidzane21 9 months ago
This my shit!
live2xlr8 9 months ago
FkiNg awwwsum brehbreh!
Squintsfrm206 9 months ago
Yo that sounds sick. I can actually rap to it
toodles246810 10 months ago
how many subscribers do you have? well now you got x+1
TheShizzNizz 10 months ago