God as we understand him, the dilemma of no faith tk 1

[quickcap]

Hi Mister 12 step

I just stopped by to say hello. Hope you are doing well

[12stepp]

Hi quickcap, all is going smoothly today.

I'm glad you stopped by, I was wondering how you were doing. I trust all is well. If you need anything let me know.

[12stepp]

I listen to one of GregSolomon videos and realized there are people who may think I'm making these videos for the wrong reasons or that I get something in return other than knowing I'm helping at least one person.Ther are many lies and gossip floating around intended to hurt me but as long as I stay in Gods pocket he will keep me unharmed. I removed many videos just in case I am doing harm like some say. they were up when they were supposed to be

[susancolemanray]

Yikes! Not only spirituality.......helping others....a whole new experience....didn't Bill W. need to look for other alcoholics?

[Jrunri]

Oh yeah, and I UNDERSTAND all to well :(

[Jrunri]

And maybe some day you'll respect those who don't want a "spiritual" belief system they just want to stop drinking.

[lebarosky]

@Jrunri Please let us know all about the ideas behind the non-spiritual cure for alcoholism and addiction that you have discovered. I look forward to hearing from you on this wonderful topic.

[AzzholesAnonymous]

Thanks for showing firsthand how AA is a new age tool of religious dogma indoctrination.

"Closed minded" if you you don't think the way I think. lol Classic actually

How many times does this guy contradict himself? "It's about finding God but not about finding God" hehehe

[lebarosky]

@AzzholesAnonymous You do not understand the topic on which you comment. Please take the time to familiarize yourself with the subject. The "contradiction" you deride is a well-known paradox inherent in spiritual journeys. I am not sure what axe you have to grind but you might consider applying the haft of it to the lateral surface of your cranium. Have a great day!

[joedigits]

12 step Hope you are better now. Hospital stays are no joke. Hope you have fully recovered.

[andyfreeze1]

Nobody forces anyone to do anything in AA, including developing faith. These are SUGGESTED concepts, not rules of order. The ONLY requirement for membership.... is a DESIRE to stop drinking.

Here is a good suggestion that is biblical, if that is your persuasion. Judge not that ye be not judged.

[spacestate]

When AA functions as just a club, where people with the same problem can talk to each other and give each other support I have no beef with it. When it gets into its religion and forces people to believe in it, it should be abolished.

[andyfreeze1]

You, without sin, cast the first stone.  Maybe you ought to get all spiritual concepts in the world abolished also.

[lebarosky]

@spacestate You have little or no understanding of this subject. You are not familiar with the 12 Steps. The 12 Steps have nothing to do with religion. I am not sure you even listened to this video. Please take the time to familiarize yourself with the subject, prior to making comments suggesting that a life-saving organization should be abolished.

[fucummings]

Jack Norris, and Nell Wing all said that Bill had let them know how badly he felt about his unfaithfulness to Lois. That he nevertheless was seemingly unable to control himself filled him with despair and self-loathing at times and left him feeling unworthy to lead AA.

[BackTheFUNKUpFool]

Hmmmmm...but it is. It has helped people in their efforts to not drink( in some cases, or use drugs). It may not make any sense to you, it makes none to me, but it does to some people. It IS a source for them...therefor, because it doesn't to you, doesn't mean its not at all.

[tobytwirrll]

Henry Ford was a crazy fascist who supported Adolph Hitler's rise to power financially and said many stupid and insane things. Hardly an appropriate person to quote.Nor is the silly "big book" the source of spiritual or any other wisdom.