Das letzte Jahr der DDR - Der Ausverkauf der DDR

[granskare]

we transitted the DDR in 1975 and sailed right thru from Denmark to Czech

[Halo30201]

@RanuClawtooth

Was soll daran denn nicht stimmen?

Wenn 10 Ostmark nur eine DM waren.

[carinhall1]

Offene Grenzen für Spekulanten,Heuschrecken,verj. Banken, Volksverräter wie ,,S"PD / CDU / FDP / Grüne.

[ANYONE3041937kyc]

@carinhall1 Schwachsinn ein heruntergewirtschaftetes System was seinen niedrigen Standard über Kredite aus dem Westen halten konnte

[carinhall1]

@ANYONE3041937kyc :Heruntergewirtschaftetes System ? - Die BRD hat eindeutig mehr Schulden als es die DDR je hatte. -Der Untergang des Euro ist nur noch eine Frage der Zeit.

[joaquinveyron]

@carinhall1 "Die BRD hat eindeutig mehr Schulden als es die DDR je hatte"

Jep, richtig. Wer stellt den schon einer sozialistischen Schrottrepublick einen Kredit aus?? So doof sind ja nicht einmal die meisten Banken nicht.

Zur Info: Madagaskar, Mali, Mauretanien, Bhutan, Nepal ... haben auch weniger Schulden als die BRD. :-)

Der Westen hat ja auch seit 1990 2000 Mrd. EUR in den kranken Patienten DDR transfriert

[Berlinbeater]

@joaquinveyron: ebenjene immensen Summen hätten seitens der Bundesrepublik nicht getätigt werden müssen, falls die Treuhand nicht im vorauseilendem Gehorsam zugunsten der westdeutschen Industrieinteressen die noch verbliebende Produktionssubstanz der DDR zerstört hätte (die Tschechen haben z.B ihre Industrie wesentlich intelligenter privatisiert)

Abgesehen davon, joaquin, erledigt sich das kapitalistische System gerade vor unseren Augen, falls Sie es überhaupt zur Kenntnis nehmen..^^

[ANYONE3041937kyc]

@carinhall1 Na ja bei dem Namen brauch ich mich wohl nicht wundern. Jemand der sich so nennt dem ist Freiheit wohl kein Begriff. Die Milliarden die der Osten bekommen hat sind nie zurück bezahlt worden, damit wurde Menschen frei gekauft und Menschenrechte gekauft. Welches gute System hat es überdies nötig seine Bürger einzusperren?

Wenn so toll war hätte ja keiner versucht zu fliehen.

[LMB222]

2:11 LOL! Is how f**ed up DDR was?

[LMB222]

@LMB222 sorry for the double

[LMB222]

2:11 LOL! That's not much different from my parents' stories when they went to Soviet Union: a custom officer took a long piece of wire, opened the car's tank, and started looking for gold, or I don't know what.

Thereafter my mother was told that she can't enter in her jeans, because she would surely sell them.

Bottom line: DDR was fucked up.

[gutzje123]

Bei 2.12  " durchleuchtet wird alles was hohl ist."

Da haben unsere Politiker aber ganz schön Glück gehabt

[LMB222]

The "smugglers" were simply doing business, buying cheap, selling more expensive, and the presenter calls them "böse Polen". Still, some Germans prefer to sit and collect Hartz IV, then move their bottoms and do some work.

[LMB222]

Why were those items sold under productions costs, and then confiscated by the customs officers?

[jensenopulus]

@LMB222 'Cause they were dedicated to the East-German citizens. Not to the Polish.

[LMB222]

@jensenopulus This is answer to what exactly? Can't connect it with my question. I was asking what's with buiyng cheap and selling more expensive in another place. In most countries it is called "trade", and people get rich doing it. They have buildings call "supermarkets" and "shopping malls". Can't find them in Germany, though.

[jensenopulus]

@LMB222 Nowadays there are lots of supermarkets and shopping malls. But the economy of the late GDR was very weak, because they wanted to make it possible for every citizen to buy products for the same price everytime. So the government subsidized nearly everything and the products were sold under production costs. At the end of the GDR economy was so weak that people couldn't buy anything they wanted, 'cause some products were unavailable. So the German customs had to avoid that the products...

[jensenopulus]

@LMB222 ... dedicated to the citizens of the GDR were sold to foreigners in big numbers. If they didn't intervene, the people in the GDR wouldn't have been able to survive... Thatswhy the products were confiscated only with no fines for the smugglers.

ok? ;)

[LMB222]

@jensenopulus My point is: "If you introduce such a mental economy, you have no grounds complaining that people buy cheap and sell somewhere else".

As for your other comment, no there are no malls in Germany, and shops are still closed on Sundays.

[jensenopulus]

@LMB222 They've not been prepared for that rush-like sales. Thatswhy they got in trouble. Why do you think, that we've no malls? Do a Googlesearch for "Europapassage" or "Kaufhaus des Westens"... Don't know where you're from. Of course our malls are not that ultra-big like in the US, but they exist. And yes: Sunday is day which is reserved for the church. Nevertheless there are regions where shops and malls (!) are opened on Sundays - e.g. the Isle of Ruegen. BTW this is former GDR-territory. ;)

[LMB222]

@jensenopulus My point is that the reaction of the people in the video is what people call "self-righteous behaviour". Being prepared for this is (was) the problem of those in DDR, and I can clearly see that they blame the visitors. How easy.

As for trade, KaDeWe is a department store, not a shopping mall. "Sundays for church": as a non-religious person I find this argument appalling:isn't the division of church and state written into German constitution? What if I want to celebrate on Friday?

[jensenopulus]

@LMB222 Nobody said that they were right in doing this things. But it had to be done to save the supply of the people in the GDR...

I'm nin-religious too. So I can understand your point. It's right that church and state are devided in Germany but nevertheless the church is able and allowed to make demands like every other institution. And as you can see there exist special regulations for touristic regions.

[LMB222]

@jensenopulus Good to have come to a common point.