chickenfloyd video sept.5/10, he referred to Pacquiao, a native of the Philippines, as “a yellow chump,” and said “Once I stomp the midget, I’ll make that [expletive] make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice.” added, “I’m going to cook that [expletive] with cats and dogs. Have some rice with a little barbecue dog.” He also referred to Pacquiao by using a derogatory slang term for a homosexual. Chickenfloyd resorted to racial attack, because of his envy, anger, and hatred of Manny!
chickenfloyd video sept.5/10, he referred to Pacquiao, a native of the Philippines, as “a yellow chump,” and said “Once I stomp the midget, I’ll make that [expletive] make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice.” added, “I’m going to cook that [expletive] with cats and dogs. Have some rice with a little barbecue dog.” He also referred to Pacquiao by using a derogatory slang term for a homosexual. Chickenfloyd resorted to racial attack, because of his envy, anger, and hatred of Manny!
fuck! I cant see the comment here that I must reply. I didn't lost my logic and I am not a PActard as Mayweather balls suckers say. Mayweather himself made his intentions double rediculous 1st he wants random testing now he wants 14 days cut off, what the fuck? it undermines the randomness of the test he wants and he said this when Pacquiao camp said go to NSAC and have your demands be approved there. Rules have long been existed that the Mayweathers themselves benifited being a steroids user.
He said 14 days cut off trying to acomidate that cheating piece of shit Faggy PacRoids and it still wasnt good enough for him. Personally I think Floyd should keep it 100% random and dont change anything for that cheating fag Faggy PacRoids.
The issue on a rediculous PBF drug test is a test how the brain of the americans work hahaha... funny to know there are people in america a supposed to be educated people believed gossip from a convicted criminal and a known bad mouth, a family of criminals. This proves wherever you are there are equal percentage of idiots in each country approximately
@pedomohd LOL! Yeah you sure told us Americans, we are so stupid we are just the most POWERFUL NATION in the world. What idiots we Americans are. LOL! What a NOOB! Sorry buddy I hate to break you're heart but There are ALOT more people that suspect Pac other than the Mayweathers. Common sense, not gossip will tell you that Pac is acting suspiciously and anyone who says differently either has none or is filipino PERIOD.
It's hard for Pac fan's especially Asian fans to look at this situation logically and objectively. But I can't find the logic in Pac's actions. Why is he afraid to take random drug tests? Why would he choose to spend money out of the ring in court proving his innocence vs getting paid inside the ring proving his innocence? Doesn't add up. I don't think he's guilty but you gotta be naive not to be suspicious. Don't let pride cloud your logic. I know Pac is like god to you guys but he's human.
u cant find logic in pac's situation cuz your not a promoter OR an advisor.. pacman is 'just doin his job'. if he feels uncertain about something why would his team jepardize that? u think hes walking away from 40 mill? u think hes guna let some baby like floyd trashtalk all over his hard work? hes handling the situation perfectly .. and if u want him to bend over like a bitch over another test then suck his asian dick.
What does being a promoter have to do with forming an opinion? From and promotion standpoint, the only way his actions make sense to me is if they still intend to fight later this year. He's walking away from 40mil plus spending money in court vs getting paid in the ring proving his innocence. Floyd reduced his demands with Pac and agreed to a 2week window which Pac declined. If anyone is the baby it is clearly Pac. Why is Pac afraid to test? at14days he can't claim that it will weaken him.
suck his asian dick? asians have the smallest dicks in the world what is there to suck? how about a shove my big 8 inch cock down your mothers throat you dick sucking PacTart. You asian PacTarts say the gayest shit!
think about it.... team pacquiao tried to compremise with team mayweather.. but no.. they continue to keep up unnecessary roadblocks. does mayweather actually wana PROVE hes on something?? or does he JUST wana weaken pacman?? they can take the test right after the fight... which would explain EVERYTHING.. but no... floyd wants to weaken pacman and make HIMSELF look better.. and your naive if u cant see that. there is perfect logic. u just gota think business..
Yeah team Pac really tried to compromise, thats why they declined to take the test, even at 14 days out. Pac complained about drawing blood before the Morales fight which was @ 48hrs. Even at 48hrs which in reality wont have any effect on him physically, I can respect his psychological hesitance, but two weeks out? C'mon man, he should have no issues testing up to 14days out. That is if he is clean. I think it's fair to say that @14 days Pac has no legitimate reason for not testing.
If he was thinking business he would have taken the test. The clottey fight is a joke, Floyd has a better drawing opponent in Mosley. Business wise Floyd/Pac makes the most sense. Pac could have taken the test, given the fans the fight they wanted, earned one of the biggest paydays in boxing history and quieted the questions surrounding his legacy all in one shot. All he had to do was take random tests and @ 14 days out I fail to see the logic in his inability to test. His actions are suspect.
pacquiao aint god?? hes an alltime great fighter. theres a difference. was sugar ray. ali. tyson gods? no. they were respected for their skills. dont let conspiracies and rumours cloud your logic. the blood testing unnecessary. there are other ways to test.
@swiffstep Believe me I KNOW Pac is not god because there is no such thing, anyways all I'm saying is that many of his fans particularly asians look at him like a god like figure, they feel he can do no wrong and because of this assumption they believe without proof that he could never use PED'S. I RESPECT Pac for his skills and he is my fav fighter but I am not a moron, it's OBVIOUS he is SUSPECT! NOT GUILTY BUT SUSPECT!
and about 'asians look at him like a god like figure' so what. you see the same thing with whites, blacks, latinos defending their kind so wtf kinda an argument is that. pac has undisputed reason to be respected as alltime greatness. ppl just cant get over that fact an asian is on top. so he must be on peds! i dont blame ya'll, its never been seen before til now. but dont get obsessed with all the conspiracies its just a way out for mayweather to cloud the publics view and not risk his 0.
@swiffstep Asian's tends to be more prideful in general. I'm pretty sure people who suspected Maguire and Mosley weren't getting death threats from defensive, enraged, psycho fans. I'm not SHOCKED that an asian is on top, like I said he is my favorite fighter, but at the same time if my favorite fighter cant take a RANDOM drug test in todays age of steroid use then I think that is SUSPECT! Why? because I don't let pride cloud my logic. Floyds not risking his 0, thats why he's fighting Mosley LOL
so i guess mayweather and mosely fall in the same boat then? if they both use drugs before fights. fine. but dont say oh painkillers isnt close to peds. drugs are drugs. floyds jr and sr are hypocrites. hmm apparently ur blind for thinkin floyd chose to fight mosely. he didnt even want it. and what u talkin about clottey aint on the list? did u get the memo hes regarded as a top ww under pac mosely may? ppl were biased in his fight with cotto.
Painkillers are NOTHING compared to HGH,EPO,ANDRO,CLEAR ETC. Not even close, if they were everyone would use them. Neither Pac nor his camp care about xylocaine so It's a non issue, but if it makes you feel better about Pac to know that Floyd uses a LEGAL pain killer then so be it. Clottey is not a legit contender for Manny. Regarded as a top WW? Maybe but still under Mosley & he is not mentioned in p4p rankings Lol! If you Don't think Pac is gonna murder Clottey I would love to wager with you.
there is no real evidence against barry bonds either you tit. wake up, the sport needs to be taken from corruption to the real playing field. Pac just happens to be at the forefront of the reformation of the sport. If he cant do random, fuck him. The sport wont stay on easily passed urine tests for long.
@pacisacherrypicker tellin me to wake up? wtf.. if u wana accuse him of doin drugs when hes been tested clean 100% then your saying that all of champions in history are all cheaters cuz they werent tested either. manny took the same tests.. and if u change the whole sport than everything in the past would be miscredited. i agree that the corruption in boxing should be cleaned out. but this is rediculous.. just let the guy take it right after the fight. thats when its counts the most anyway
Do you know anything about peds? After the fight is useless, because if you know when you have to test, you can take what you need to and when. the drugs we are refrerring to are used mostly in hard training and need to be cycled off to be effective. the whole point of random is to monitor red blood cell count as well, that is a big flag in blood doping, whether they know what to look for or not.
manny refused cuz its not in the rules of the commission. fighters dont make new rules for their opponents, especially when they are threatened. if the commission had it in the rules.. team pac woulnt have a reason to refuse. but i know what your guna say... oh... boxing doesnt have valid testing anymore etc.. save it. floyd is worried he'll lose his O. if he was as good as he claims he woulda signed the contract regardless like a fearless fighter. but nope.
@swiffstep Really, so because it's not in the commission Pac couldn't have agreed to the randoms? Funny how Mosley agreed tot them. Ur pretty much saying that Floyd, with a perfect record should fight a highly suspected user who refuses to take a random drug test? Thats moronic LOL! Mosley admitted to PED use for multiple fights and still passed the NSAC tests. They are NOT EFFECTIVE. Pac is the one ducking, and over a blood test? Neither FIGHTERS are scared to fight but Pac's scared to TEST!
even if shane used peds in some of his fights it doesnt really take that much away from his wins..hes a warrior that fought everyone. floyd is undefeated but who has he beat? guys that werent even on his level. he injects painkillers into his body before he gets in the ring. if he was as good as he claims he should be steppin up to bigger challenges. your only excuse is that since mosely got away with it so must pac! but its conpsiracies and rumours started by team mayweather gain advantage
@swiffstep Using PED's doesn't take much away from a win? You're joking right? U say this but complain about xylocaine? LOL! Sorry man you are reaching, xylocaine is no where near the enhancer PED's are plus it's legal in vegas where the majority of Floyd fights are held. So NEXT! Stepping up to bigger challenges? HMM apparently you didn't get the memo that Floyd is fighting Mosley WIth RANDOMS. Let's see, Mosley is ranked #3 P4P and Clottey, where is he on the list, oh yeah he isn't. NEXT
@swiffstep No I have no excuses, just FACTS. Mosley being able to skate around the commission's tests is PROOF to me that current tests are not the most effective tests available for PED'S and that they can be easily beaten. No, of course this doesn'' mean Pac is guilty, but Pac's illogical reasons for not wanting to take randoms and NEED to RELY on the standard INEFFECTIVE testing leaves suspicions with UNBIASED fans.
@capoeiraike Floyd knew it and so he used steroids too same logic applies to all now. So let him stop fighting in Nevada, ist time to make boxing put in a plain playing field. The most suspicious boxer is Floyd Maweather actually.
@pedohohn, What R U talking about? First of all you're talking about a LEGAL substance that NOBODY cares about. Neither Psc, nor his camp care about xylocaine. The only people who cry about xylocaine are whining Pac fanatics who have absolutely no clue as to how PED'S work. Xylocaine is nowhere near HGH,EPO,CLEAR,ANDRO, ETC! Ahhhhh no sorry, everybody KNOWS Floyd uses Xylocaine which would make him the least suspicious boxer, LOL! especially now since him AND MOSLEY have agreed to RANDOMS.
@vbo437, I cant say if pac is clean or dirty for sure, but his actions are certainly suspect and indicative of someone who has something to hide. Floyd on the other hand is clean and willing to prove it to the world and yet these dumbasses like pedomohd choose to be biased and demonize Floyd for trying to prove the fighters will be truly clean. That is truly retarded. Anyways, it is nice to see another voice of reason and logic amongst the sea of pactards. Peace.
brou no one can run for a 40 million dollar fight for 2 spun of blood ramdon test no one 40 million dollar fight wtf??????????? this man have something to hide and the real tru he don't whant to get cut.
@vbo437, Real talk man, No man, especially with nothing to hide turns down 40 mil, a chance to cement his legacy, set an example of fairness in pro sports, and the chance to shut up his accusers over a SIMPLE BLOOD TEST. NO CLEAN MAN WOULD DO THAT. I don't know why these fools can't see that. It's simple logic. Peace bro.
@capoeiraike why not suspect Floyd on using steroids when they are a family of drug trafficckers and criminals frequently punish by the US laws? They the first suspect as dirty people living dirty lives. Where is the proof Pacquiao is taking roids?
Why not accuse floyd? because Floyd was willing to take that drug test Faggy PacRoid was not and Faggy Pac made like 5 different excuses of why he didnt want to take that blood test. Floyd and Mosley are both taking random blood test for their next fight on May 1st... Floyd doesn't hide anything, there for I have no reason to believe that Floyd is cheating.
yeah right you PacTart! Faggy PacRoids is just as dirty as Margarito is. As a matter of fact isnt Faggy PacRoids considering Margarito as a next opponent? Over looking Paul Williams and Devon Alexander who are both clean and would hand him his ass?
@Venus1Star where is the proof if you are talking about fairness? maybe you are only serving your own stomach and never even bother to think an accused is innocent until proven guilty. The mayweathers find it impossible to prove their allegations in court and they have to pay moral damages on their irresponsible dirty mouth. Why not anybody amongst the mayweather dick suckers even bother to question the integrity of NSAC and qucik on PAcquiao?
Where is the proof you ask? I'll tell you like I tell every other PacTart... The proof is in Pacs Blood that pac refuses to submit for 40 mill. Refusing a blood for 40 mill? shit if that isnt fucking proof to you than what do you need? You need for Pac to go in a ring with needles sticking out of his ass? Another question? name me one athlete that has been tested for PED with then having proof first? Now name me one athlete that has refused a blood test that turned out clean @ da end
@Venus1Star why not take a haitr sample and have it tested? then you can prove he is using PED. For Floyd its is already obvious being a family of drug traffickers, woman beaters, etc... in short a family of criminals dont need any proof their convictions aNd admittance of guilt many times not once, is more than enough
OK you ass! How many times need I say that Floyd Mayweather is taking a fucking random blood test, so how can you say he is taking drugs if he and mosley are taking the most effective drug test in the world. What does it matter if his father trafficked drugs, guns or even fucking body parts? Floyd is taking the USDA Olympic drug test... That is proof that he is clean... unlike Faggy PacRoids. Faggy PacRoid makes his own dates when he wants to be tested how fucking stupid.
IGF-1 is a steroid that stays in the blood for only 24 hours. Ofcourse Manny has something to hide... his steroid contaminated blood. Give me one "LOGICAL" explination why he wouldn't take that test? Blood test needs to be random... Floyd and Mosley did it and they sold more than Pac when he fought clottey... so they did something right. Pac is a cheating pussy.
Ok, then they can take it just minutes after the fight. Why does Gayweather insist on taking it before the fight when that won't prove anything? If he takes a blood test 2 days before the fight, he could just start juicing right after the test is over.
Dude if IGF-1 says in the blood for 24 hours... Pac can take it one day before the fight and show up clean one day after. He can also take EPO that only shows up in the blood for about 19 hours... dont you get it? None of you PacTarts ever do. Like I said give me one "LOGICAL" ADULT" explination to why Faggy cant take that blood test.
If he takes the test minutes after the fight, it would still show. There's no way he can time the dosage so it dissappears from his system just minutes after the fight. Oh, and you still haven't given me info on where I can information on it.
Right you ass! so why is there random blood testing done all over the world? to all different types of athletes then? Arguing with you PacTarts is so fucking annoying you answer with more questions... never have anything to bring to the table in an argument. Do this you fucking pacTart you find the info on IGF-1 that says that its stays in the blood for longer than I said and pretty much everyone says... bring something to the table for once instead of just more questions.
First of all, part of an argument is asking more questions. It's because you don't have answers to those questions that you're getting so annoyed. Second of all, the burden of proof is on you. If you claim that drug lasts only 24 hours, it's not up to me to prove it's not true. It's up to you to prove it is true. If there's an article on it online, you can easily send me the link.
One reason HGH is so hard to detect, even with the best blood tests, is because the pituitary gland puts it out in pulses - not as a constant stream - and it clears the system very quickly. Since the body clears it so fast the best way to detect it is threw a random blood test wouldnt you say you fucking PacTart? I'm gonna send you a link you fucking PactTart! bring something to the table you stupid tart for once not just questions.
Evidently you didn't read the article thoroughly. It also says that it's hard to tell if a blood test can even detect it. Plus, even if they could, it would have to be taken almost at the same time the drug is applied. In order to work, several blood tests would have to be taken at different times.
Exactly genius! the best way to stay on top of a slick cheater like Manny is to test randomly... it is the best weapon against drugs that are hard to detect. Manny wouldnt be sure when to take his IGF-1 because he wouldnt know when they might come knocking on his door. The USDA will also save blood samples for the future... and as their blood testing advances they will keep testing manny's blood. Now you know why Manny is so afraid.
What I'm saying is, even a random blood test wouldn't work. The only way to detect it is to give him several blood tests which is out of the question, because that would weaken him for sure.
OK so now its time for you to bring something to the table. Show me scientific facts that state that random blood testing can weaken an athlete. Remember this before you go on your quest... the human body can make up to a pint of blood in about 24 hours... the healthier the person the faster they make blood. Remember this also Mosley and Floyd both took the random blood test and fought all 12 rounds... and so do cyclist and many other athletes.
Lance Armstrong a "Cancer Surviver" got random blood tested and rode his bike around the entire France... and WON the tour the farnce several times, but little cheating hiding pussy Faggy PacRoids cant have less than a tea spoon of blood drawn for a blood test? He's either really fucking stupid or hiding something. There you go some more real data for you, you can look up Lance Armstrong if you want.
It's a phobia. Do you know what that means? It's psychological. That may seem like a copout to you, but if you were in the biggest fight of your career, the smallest psychological disadvantage could cost him everything. Oh, and I've taken blood tests before. They take well over one tea spoon.
@osamabad Phobia? dude look up people with real phobias right here on youtube, theres a video of a man who runs at the sight of peaches because he has a phobia to them.. I'll send you the link. Unless Manny was clinically diagnosed with a "phobia" dont mention the word. He doesn't have a phobia.. Manny is a excuse making PUSSY big difference. 1 teaspoon 2 3 what ever... I know that athletes from all over the world male and feamale take that test and perform great. Why cant manny?
Manny is either hiding something or just a plain idiot. So if you know manny is that stupid why do you support his dumb beliefs? I bet you if Manny's fans didn't support his rediculous excuses... manny would be forced to actually learn how the human body and blood testing really works. So long as PacTarts support him them what reason does he have to actually learn anything? This man is so fucking stupid and supersticious and he is running politically in his country? LOL
I don't support his excuses. Maybe he's just making excuses for losing to Morales, but that doesn't change the fact that he still believes it. If a fight is this crucial, he can't afford to have a psychological disadvantage. Besides, how would a 14 day window prove anything? He could just start juicing after the test is over.
Do you believe that there is a possibility that Pac might be juicing? because that to me is the difference of a PacTart or not. PacTarts are so up Manny's ass that in their eyes Manny would never do such a thing. I dont put anything past anyone. I think random blood testing is the best thing that can happen to boxing and manny isnt the only boxer I suspect of cheating.
There's a possibility. I just don't think there's substantial evidence. If I were using HGH, I would just agree to the 14 day window and start juicing as soon as the test is over. How is using a 10 extra days gonna make the difference?
Well you never know what new tricks the USADA has up its sleeves, so you might submit blood 14 days before the fight and they might have the technoligy avilable to determine if you been doping or not. They can also store the blood for future analysis. Honestly I have never seen anyone turn down a blood test that turned out to be clean in the end... so to me Manny turning down that blood test makes him look very guilty.
What you just said doesn't make sense. If he starts taking it after the test is over, it won't matter how effective it is. There won't be any in his blood. He might as well take it after.
How you figure if you was fighting 14 days from now... and got tested today... you will have 2 weeks to juice up and not worry about being tested again. Truthfully you and I arent chemist all I know is that there are PED's and every day there is a different way to beat it and cheat... and till this day random blood testing is the most efficient way of testing available.
What do you mean? If they get tested once, that's it. They're not gonna get tested after the 14 day window. That's what was agreed upon. It has nothing to do with chemistry or technology. I just think PED's wouldn't be the reason he won't take the test. Why would he put himself through all this greaf just to have an extra 10 days to juice?
I dont think manny would do this you dont think Manny would do that... guy you are starting to sound like a PacTart. If you are a PacTart reasoning with you is out of the question because you dont think manny would do anything and you buy in to what ever excuse he gives. Manny is a grown man and I want a grown man answer to why cant he take a random blood test... fuck superstitions, phobias, 14 days, 30 days. I dont have to treat manny as if he's a little girl hes a man.
Ok, then just answer my last question. How would an extra 10 days make a significant difference? The article you showed me said, HGH doesn't do that much in general, let alone just an extra 10 days of using it.
Dude fuck 10 days or 14 days you are getting way too technical for trying to explain why Pac wouldnt take a damn blood test. Truthfully your question doesn't even make sense. You are trying to figure out whats in Pacs head as if you are some kind of psychologist on why he wont take that blood test. You have way too many theories and your theories with Pacs excuses and superstitions makes this a dead argument. Talk Facts!
My argument is, if he were taking HGH and that's the reason he won't agree to a 14 day window, he would've given in by now, because an extra 10 days wouldn't make a significant difference.
I'll give you 2 facts (FACT #1) The USADA random blood test is the most efficient blood test for finding cheaters
(FACT #2) There has never been an athlete that refused a random blood test that turned out being clean in the end. Look at Mark Maguire for example.
When dealing with Pac I have to deal with too many damn theories, superstitions ,weird beliefs, and excuses from his fans. They keep trying to tell me whats in Pacs head nothing solid EVER!
These are your facts? your facts are based on a theory, the theory that Manny says he lost to Morales because of a blood test. No matter how you put it it still goes back to Faggy PacRoids rediculous theory.. that you and all other PacTarts buy... by the way are you Filipino?
Well if you have a boxer that used to get beat up and SUCKED! now suddenly he is accomplishing the impossible what would you think? Floyd is smart "safety first" why should he care about pac being a girl?
When did he "suck" exactly? Your "facts" are not supported by numbers. All I hear is "his head is HUGE" and "he used to suck". And the Morales thing is not a theory. He talked about it in an interview years ago. That's why I'm a little suspicious of Gayweather's true intentions in demanding that blood test. He never wanted it before, now we're suopposed to believe he's so concerned about steroid use? Where was this concern before?
You asked me if there's a possibility that Pac might be juicing. Well, let me ask you: Do you think it's possible that this drug test demand could be a tactic against him by the Gayweather camp, especially since they already knew of his concerns earlier on?
Dude I could give a fuck about Manny's concerns how many times do I have to say that. I don't have to look at manny as if he's a fucking child and neither does Floyd ore anyone else. Manny is a fucking man! Faggy PacRoids is either juicing or he is seriously that much of a bitch that he is afraid of needles. Bitch or Cheater both bad i said that b4.
Oh, and stop asking my why I support his superstition about blood testing. You wanna talk about arguing like a child? Well, let's talk about your childish view that the fans (or PacTarts as you would put it) have some kind of say in what decisions he makes. It's not like we meet him in a conference room and advise him on what to do and say.
Well he's a boxer and boxers "HURT PEOPLE" sometimes even "KILL PEOPLE" . The people that want Pac to take that blood test are people that think about other boxers and the well being of the sport. PacTarts could care less about the well being of any other boxer... shit most of them dont know any other boxer. Pacs Cheating is "DANGEROUS" and I wouldnt want to see anyone get there lives ruined by some fucking cheating juice head or even killed. So my VIEWS are for a good purpose.
These "concerned people" lost a blood sample he gave them a month before the Morales fight. Then what do they do? They tell him just 2 days before the fight (when they could've told him weeks earlier) and make him take another one so close to the fight. That's part of the reason he's suspicious and paranoid. A mistake like that hardly ever happens. I
So fucking what? I have seen boxers win fights gushing blood out there noses all 12 fucking rounds... and Manny thinks he lost because of a blood test near the fight? Dude that is some real fucking bitch shit! Manny was always open to get hit and had gotten knocked out before in other fights... he lost because he's a bum. Manny's tactic has always been just swing swing swing. He has no defense Y is he so shocked that he lost? Fuck him and his crying... Get the fuck over it already.
Even the bloodiest fights don't take as much blood as a blood test. Do some fucking research. And on top of giving blood, he couldn't eat or drink, because it would screw up his weight. And once and for all: When do you think he started using? And when did he suck? How long have you been following his career?
It could have been incompetence, it could've also been a set-up. So don't try to make it sound like these people are angels concerned for people's lives. They're partly to blame for this whole blood test controversy. There's just as much reason to suspect them as there is him.
Who are these people who tested him? It only shows how fucking incompetent the boxing comission blood testing really is... who losses blood samples? Have you heard anyone tested by the USADA go threw that? This is more of a reason the the USADA should be testing instead of the boxing commission. Anyway that's still no excuse for manny to be such a bitch.. or in my opinion taking HGH.
"HGH,EPO,CLEAR,ANDRO, ETC" If you scroll down you will see that someone else posted these already... but you are a fucking PacTard. With info RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE!! you still dont know shit. You never answered me... ARE YOU FILIPINO? You must be the way you worship Pac.. You PacTard.
Yes, I am. So what? The concern should be the validity of our arguments, not how emotionally invested we are in them. But if you want to bring up emotional investment, it seems like you really have it out for Pac. So far you have brought up the fact that he has no defensive game, and you keep bringing up his "political career" which have no bearing on this argument.
Packs stupidity has allot of bearing on this argument and his political career is just an example of how stupid he is and even dumber his country men that voted for him. Pac is bearly educated and he's a congress man isnt that stupid? Are there really that many PacTards in the Philippines? You know he won that election by a landslide right? Pac being afraid of needles and blaming the morales fight is such a stupid excuse of him and his fans.
I didn't want him to win! No educated Filipino wanted him to win! It's sad. Yes. But it has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Do you just wanna go and say that Filipinos are stupid? If that's what this whole thing was about, go ahead and say it instead of keeping up this PED charade.
If you wanna say he's stupid and uneducated for thinking the blood test could weaken him, go ahead. If you wanna say he's a pussy for being afraid of giving a little blood, be my guest. Hell, I even agree with you a little. That doesn't prove he's a juicer, does it? In fact, it proves the opposite.
Sounds to me like you just don't like him or maybe you just don't like Filipinos or people in third world countries for that matter. Maybe you're just insecure about the fact that someone from a third world country actually stands a chance of beating one of the greatest American fighters. Your comments are filled with hateful words that don't sound like they're coming from an objective observer.
Are you serious you PacTard? I like Nonito Doniare he is Filipino and I bet you anything you are gonna have to look up who he is. Most of you PacTards dont know any other boxer but Pac not even the other ones from your country. Stop using the race card guy you get more and more pathetic with every post.
You're right. I do have to look him up. The fact that I do shows that he's not that well known yet, but god forbid he should actually become as famous as Pacquiao you would start a smear campaign against him as well. I was wrong. You don't have a problem with Filipinos, you just have a problem with them excelling in sports that were once dominated by westerners.
Check out the video on my page called "Manny Pac exposed" You can see freddy roach his OWN TRAINER admiting that manny fights weaker dehydrated guys.. like Oscar and Hatton and Cotto. LOL. His own trainer knows Manny is a fucking piece of shit. All that drugs for what?
and really what do you mean by HOW IS JUICING UP 14 DAYS GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE? Are you telling me that if Pac or any other juicer has 14 days which they know that they are not gonna be tested... it won't work in there benefit? That is where you lost me why because that is just so fucking stupid to say... are you on fucking crack guy? You make no sense at times.
You are too stuck on what I told you about HGH also guy... Pac could be taking anything... prob some shit we never even heard of. HGH is just what he is suspected of taking could be any other PED. I would never believe Pacs excuses... he cant possibly be that stupid... he just won a damn congress election... he cant be that fucking retarded and superstitious.
He hasn't won yet, and believe me, the people voting for him are the stupid ones. He's just cashing in on a golden opportunity. You said that HGH leaves your system after a day. That's why you believe he's taking it. Any other PED would be detected by conventional methods. This is the problem by Pac haters. You guys keep changing your theories. Everytime one is proven wrong, you come up with another one.
You are a serious PacTart! Guy if I knew what Pac was taking just by looking at him THEN WE WOULDN'T NEED A FUCKING TEST YOU PACTART!! I Mentioned HGH just to let you know that there are drugs that are in and out of your system... You didn't know that there was such drugs as a matter of fact I had to send you articles to educate you. Its not just HGH there are different types of steroids and EPO also.
check this video called (Mayweather vs Mosley - Pacquiao EXPOSED) You will see Pacs own trainer admiting that they only seeked out Oscar, Hatton and Cotto because they knew they were damaged goods. LOL. Roach also admits that he dint want no part of mosley haha "WHOM FLOYD BEAT!" Wow no confidence in Manny his own trainer LOL. I knew deep down roach knows that Manny is a BUM!
There you go again! Making more statements that have no bearing on this argument. But for the record, people always make excuses everytime he beats someone. His critics are never satisfied with any win. If he does take this blood test, passes it, and goes on to beat Mayweather, would you then be satisfied, or will you make another excuse?
If Pac takes that blood test and beats Mayweather I will call him one of the best ever. A random blood test all the way till the day of the fight... by the USDA.
Oh, now it has to be till the day of the fight? You know very well about his concerns about doing that. If you had kept the 14 day window in your argument, you would have had something solid, but now it's starting to seem like you have the same intentions as the Gaywether camp.
See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
If you yourself say that every guy he's beaten recently is "damaged goods", then why do you also say he's "accomplishing the impossible"? Your arguments are inconsistent. First you say he wins because he's on PED's. Now you're saying it's because he fought weakened opponents. I think you just don't like him, so you'll do anything to discredit him. If your "roid thoery" doesn't pan out, you'll find another way to prove he's a fraud.
Did you watch the video? what do you think? his own trainer is admiting that they have selected their opponents based on their weaknesses, Roach admits that Oscar was a tired Oscar and when he fought Manny it was almost like when younger Oscar fought older Chavez. He also admits that he wouldnt risk pac with Mosley cause Mosley is too good... well floyd beat mosley. Dude his own trainer called him a fraud that's pretty much game over guy. That's like a check mate.
The fact that you're bringing that video up shows just how pathetic and desperate you are. He hasn't even taken the blood test or fought Gayweather yet, and already you have a new "backup" excuse lined up just in case. I gotta hand it to you. You're really on top of things.
See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
@osamabad See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
@osamabad See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
Wow any other person would be like wow man I cant believe Freddy Roach is admiting to selecting weaker aponents and being afraid of Mosley WHOM FLOYD BEAT, but you just turn around and blame it on me. You are like a wife who covers her ears when they tell her her man is cheating on her. You are a loyal sucker. haha.
You really need to decide what it is you wanna argue about. First you're talking about him using steroids, and now you're talking about him cherry picking his opponents. Why do you keep bringing up crap that has no bearing on our argument? The truth is, I can say the same things about Gayweather, but I don't because it's beyond the scope of this conversation.
Since when are there specific rules in an argument you stupid PacTartd? If you dont wanna talk no more then stop fucking writing back... do I have a gun to your head you PacTartd? I can't learn anything from you anyway... none of you Pactards ever has anything to say but cry and complaint.. You should thank me for educating you a bit... you really know nothing about anything.
Did you know that Gayweather guest stars in reality shows? He's nothing but a self-promoting attention whore. In fact he'd be much better as an actor or reality star than a boxer. He should be the next host for The Contender.
I dont wanna discuss anything with you PacTard I havent learned a single thing from you. All you do is ask questions and then get upset when I slap you in the face with facts. You didn't ask me who were the boxers who beat manny up when I posted it before? You crying bitch? You didnt ask me if I have manny's head measurements? about HGH? about other drugs? All you do is ask and then cry when the facts hit you about your Gay hero Faggy Pacroids.
Really now is more about what you dont wanna hear about your hero. The more you dont wanna hear it the more I wanna tell you... LOL.. I love abusing you. You have no come back cause you dont know anything about boxing or any other boxer but Pac. Your like a sitting duck. Your come backs are questions... and speculations I'm throwing videos, articles, names and facts at you... you stupid PacTard.
Back up? dude there isnt a single thing that I have said about Fake Ass Faggy PacRoids that isnt a fact. He's a pussy how ever you look at it. From getting beat up in the past and knocked out, to selecting fighters based on there weaknesses ,to not taking a blood test. I honestly believe he is taking some kind of EPO and now its been confirmed by his OWN TRAINER!!! That manny is a big fake. I dislike him even more now. He's more of a pussy than I thought he was.
Between the roids and the cherry picking, you make it sound like Roach could take any bum from the streets and make him famous. If that's the case, why would he get someone from the other side of the world? Wouldn't it be easier to get someone local? Let me guess: Affirmative action? Yeah, that's it. Old Freddie is doing his part to give third worlders a fair shake in the boxing world.
Pac has PacTards that follow him defend him and watch all his fights... Freddy knows that by building Faggy PacRoids up he can milk the PacTards. 90% of PacTards never watched boxing before pac only know the names of Pacs apponents and wont watch boxing after Pac... so freddy needs to milk those idiots as much as he can. It isnt hard to throw a blanket over Pac fans heads and fuck them in the ass. LOL
Its the impossible to Manny. If Manny was getting beat by bums knocked out, outpunched, dropped and even has draws with bums like Agapito Sanches... how is he beating bums that are much bigger than him. For how Pathetic Manny fights it is the impossible. Come on man he got knocked out by Medgoen Singsurat. Although Cotto, Oscar and Hatton were washed they are still better than the bums manny faced in the past. Manny is a fraud how ever you put it.
Wow, you're gonna bring up a fight which was over a decade ago, when he was less experienced. You wanna talk about filtering information? How about the fact that you totally igonored all the guys he's knocked out, and focused solely on the one guy that knocked him out?
The fact is, he only lost 3 matches in his career (Morales being one of them). Yet somehow he sucked back then according to you. The fact of the matter is, you've used his previous victories as "proof" that he's on steroids, because he can't beat guys that big, but you later said that those guys were weakened and that's why he beat them. You're constantly changing your argument.
How is he beating bums bigger than him? Last I checked, he weighed the same as his opponents. Those fights you're mentioning were years ago when he was a lot smaller. And if he sucked so bad, why did Roach take him under his wing? If he was gonna feed someone PED's, he may as well pick someone who was already good to begin with, so he wouldn't have to pick weak opponents as well.
Is that another question you pacTartd? are you gonna cry and pull the race card again if you dont like my answer? Dude Freddy Roach himself is saying that he picks easy opponents for Pac... why are you asking me? You are acting as if I'm making it up I showed you a fucking video for crying out loud. Freddy admits Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto were damaged goods and thats why he picked them.. he also says HE IS SCARED OF MOSLEY!!! Mayweather beat mosley... floyd wasnt scared! Pac is PUSSY
You can't fucking make up your mind. Whenever you get backed into a corner, you just steer to another topic and get upset when I tell you to stick to the argument. But I'll humor you. I watched the video. Most of the "facts" were posted as quotes from other people, not Roach. He didn't say they were scared of Mosley. He said there was more money in fighting Cotto.
So why did mayweather sell more PPV by fighting Mosley than when Pac fought Cotto?? Floyd sold 1,400,000 and manny sold 1,250,000. And why did Roach say Mosley is not Oscar he is better than Oscar? but fought Oscar and not Mosley? Dude I really feel like I'm abusing you LOL. You couldnt back me into a corner with a bulldozer... I cant help it if I'm over welming you with facts you PacTard. hahaha
Notice that you never refresh the page... you will keep talking about what I bring up never bringing in some fresh new info yourself. Come on man! Give me some facts! Numbers! Names! you are getting boring... not challenging at all. I'm almost done with you dont be too shocked when I just stop responding to your lame ass.
I wouldn't be surprised either. You just keep saying the same things, even when they have nothing to do with what we're saying. You run out of arguments so you come up with new ones. By the tone of your last post, you're starting to sound worried. I have several posts here (not questions) that you have yet to respond to.
You have presented a lot of facts. Facts that have nothing to do with the argument. Notice you haven't even brought PED's in a while. I post a comment, and instead of refuting it, you shove another unrelated fact in my face.
Besides, Mosely is old and would have to lose a lot of weight to fight Manny. An old weight drained fighter? Hmmmmm, that sounds familiar. He slaughtered De La Hoya and his critics did nothing but bitch about how it wasn't a fair match up. If he had fought Shane, I garuntee your dumbasses would be saying the same thing.
Don't tell me guy tell Freddy Roach Manny's trainer who already admited that shane was too much of a risk for Pac. He even says "SHANE ISN'T OSCAR" meaning that he knows Oscar is done but shane isnt. Yeah it does sound Familiar... Faggy Pac made Cotto struggle down to 144 because he knows cotto has a hard time making that weight. Your boy Faggy PacRoids is PUSSY! a FAKE! a CHEATER and has a big head hahaha
Why did you say there is no Money in fighting shane when Floyd and Shane made 1,400,000 PPV you stupid pactard? Is it that people rather see Flod fight? than Faggy PacRoids? LOL. Is Floyd more entertaining to watch? Is Pac a boring piece of shit? and only PacTards watch him?
Are you fucking retarded? I never said that. I said Roach (incorrectly) predicted there wasn't as much money in it. Plus, Gaywether was a better match for him since they're closer in size.
You're showing clear signs of desperation. First you steer the topic away from PED's. Then you keep repeating questions I've already answered. Then you make up stuff I never said.
So, according to you, even Cotto was weight drained. News flash: Gayweather and Mosley are bigger than Cotto! If he can't beat Cotto without bitches like you complaining about his weight, how would he beat the other 2 without you saying the same thing? Maybe he's wasting his time trying to beat anyone, since all you do is come up with a new excuse.
flashing news!!!! maywether HAS a CUNT! he he ehe he
mememe1966ful 7 months ago
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chickenfloyd video sept.5/10, he referred to Pacquiao, a native of the Philippines, as “a yellow chump,” and said “Once I stomp the midget, I’ll make that [expletive] make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice.” added, “I’m going to cook that [expletive] with cats and dogs. Have some rice with a little barbecue dog.” He also referred to Pacquiao by using a derogatory slang term for a homosexual. Chickenfloyd resorted to racial attack, because of his envy, anger, and hatred of Manny!
432cestus80 1 year ago
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chickenfloyd video sept.5/10, he referred to Pacquiao, a native of the Philippines, as “a yellow chump,” and said “Once I stomp the midget, I’ll make that [expletive] make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice.” added, “I’m going to cook that [expletive] with cats and dogs. Have some rice with a little barbecue dog.” He also referred to Pacquiao by using a derogatory slang term for a homosexual. Chickenfloyd resorted to racial attack, because of his envy, anger, and hatred of Manny!
432cestus80 1 year ago
Dude, do you have the tagalog version of that article? The english translation is so bad, I can't understand it.
osamabad 1 year ago
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I wanna see that 24/7 on mosley and maybreezeweather taking a random test. I know and all most of the boxing fun that this maynot happenning at all.
DraGorian777 1 year ago
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DraGorian777 1 year ago
fuck! I cant see the comment here that I must reply. I didn't lost my logic and I am not a PActard as Mayweather balls suckers say. Mayweather himself made his intentions double rediculous 1st he wants random testing now he wants 14 days cut off, what the fuck? it undermines the randomness of the test he wants and he said this when Pacquiao camp said go to NSAC and have your demands be approved there. Rules have long been existed that the Mayweathers themselves benifited being a steroids user.
pedomohd 1 year ago
He said 14 days cut off trying to acomidate that cheating piece of shit Faggy PacRoids and it still wasnt good enough for him. Personally I think Floyd should keep it 100% random and dont change anything for that cheating fag Faggy PacRoids.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
The issue on a rediculous PBF drug test is a test how the brain of the americans work hahaha... funny to know there are people in america a supposed to be educated people believed gossip from a convicted criminal and a known bad mouth, a family of criminals. This proves wherever you are there are equal percentage of idiots in each country approximately
pedomohd 2 years ago
@pedomohd LOL! Yeah you sure told us Americans, we are so stupid we are just the most POWERFUL NATION in the world. What idiots we Americans are. LOL! What a NOOB! Sorry buddy I hate to break you're heart but There are ALOT more people that suspect Pac other than the Mayweathers. Common sense, not gossip will tell you that Pac is acting suspiciously and anyone who says differently either has none or is filipino PERIOD.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
It's hard for Pac fan's especially Asian fans to look at this situation logically and objectively. But I can't find the logic in Pac's actions. Why is he afraid to take random drug tests? Why would he choose to spend money out of the ring in court proving his innocence vs getting paid inside the ring proving his innocence? Doesn't add up. I don't think he's guilty but you gotta be naive not to be suspicious. Don't let pride cloud your logic. I know Pac is like god to you guys but he's human.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
u cant find logic in pac's situation cuz your not a promoter OR an advisor.. pacman is 'just doin his job'. if he feels uncertain about something why would his team jepardize that? u think hes walking away from 40 mill? u think hes guna let some baby like floyd trashtalk all over his hard work? hes handling the situation perfectly .. and if u want him to bend over like a bitch over another test then suck his asian dick.
swiffstep 2 years ago
What does being a promoter have to do with forming an opinion? From and promotion standpoint, the only way his actions make sense to me is if they still intend to fight later this year. He's walking away from 40mil plus spending money in court vs getting paid in the ring proving his innocence. Floyd reduced his demands with Pac and agreed to a 2week window which Pac declined. If anyone is the baby it is clearly Pac. Why is Pac afraid to test? at14days he can't claim that it will weaken him.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
@swiffstep
suck his asian dick? asians have the smallest dicks in the world what is there to suck? how about a shove my big 8 inch cock down your mothers throat you dick sucking PacTart. You asian PacTarts say the gayest shit!
Venus1Star 1 year ago
think about it.... team pacquiao tried to compremise with team mayweather.. but no.. they continue to keep up unnecessary roadblocks. does mayweather actually wana PROVE hes on something?? or does he JUST wana weaken pacman?? they can take the test right after the fight... which would explain EVERYTHING.. but no... floyd wants to weaken pacman and make HIMSELF look better.. and your naive if u cant see that. there is perfect logic. u just gota think business..
swiffstep 2 years ago
Yeah team Pac really tried to compromise, thats why they declined to take the test, even at 14 days out. Pac complained about drawing blood before the Morales fight which was @ 48hrs. Even at 48hrs which in reality wont have any effect on him physically, I can respect his psychological hesitance, but two weeks out? C'mon man, he should have no issues testing up to 14days out. That is if he is clean. I think it's fair to say that @14 days Pac has no legitimate reason for not testing.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
If he was thinking business he would have taken the test. The clottey fight is a joke, Floyd has a better drawing opponent in Mosley. Business wise Floyd/Pac makes the most sense. Pac could have taken the test, given the fans the fight they wanted, earned one of the biggest paydays in boxing history and quieted the questions surrounding his legacy all in one shot. All he had to do was take random tests and @ 14 days out I fail to see the logic in his inability to test. His actions are suspect.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
pacquiao aint god?? hes an alltime great fighter. theres a difference. was sugar ray. ali. tyson gods? no. they were respected for their skills. dont let conspiracies and rumours cloud your logic. the blood testing unnecessary. there are other ways to test.
swiffstep 2 years ago
@swiffstep Believe me I KNOW Pac is not god because there is no such thing, anyways all I'm saying is that many of his fans particularly asians look at him like a god like figure, they feel he can do no wrong and because of this assumption they believe without proof that he could never use PED'S. I RESPECT Pac for his skills and he is my fav fighter but I am not a moron, it's OBVIOUS he is SUSPECT! NOT GUILTY BUT SUSPECT!
capoeiraike 2 years ago
and about 'asians look at him like a god like figure' so what. you see the same thing with whites, blacks, latinos defending their kind so wtf kinda an argument is that. pac has undisputed reason to be respected as alltime greatness. ppl just cant get over that fact an asian is on top. so he must be on peds! i dont blame ya'll, its never been seen before til now. but dont get obsessed with all the conspiracies its just a way out for mayweather to cloud the publics view and not risk his 0.
swiffstep 2 years ago
@swiffstep Asian's tends to be more prideful in general. I'm pretty sure people who suspected Maguire and Mosley weren't getting death threats from defensive, enraged, psycho fans. I'm not SHOCKED that an asian is on top, like I said he is my favorite fighter, but at the same time if my favorite fighter cant take a RANDOM drug test in todays age of steroid use then I think that is SUSPECT! Why? because I don't let pride cloud my logic. Floyds not risking his 0, thats why he's fighting Mosley LOL
capoeiraike 2 years ago
so i guess mayweather and mosely fall in the same boat then? if they both use drugs before fights. fine. but dont say oh painkillers isnt close to peds. drugs are drugs. floyds jr and sr are hypocrites. hmm apparently ur blind for thinkin floyd chose to fight mosely. he didnt even want it. and what u talkin about clottey aint on the list? did u get the memo hes regarded as a top ww under pac mosely may? ppl were biased in his fight with cotto.
swiffstep 2 years ago
Painkillers are NOTHING compared to HGH,EPO,ANDRO,CLEAR ETC. Not even close, if they were everyone would use them. Neither Pac nor his camp care about xylocaine so It's a non issue, but if it makes you feel better about Pac to know that Floyd uses a LEGAL pain killer then so be it. Clottey is not a legit contender for Manny. Regarded as a top WW? Maybe but still under Mosley & he is not mentioned in p4p rankings Lol! If you Don't think Pac is gonna murder Clottey I would love to wager with you.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
this is way most good man hide
because you something great and positive. most people torn it around a make you look bad. it happens all the time.
MHEE1NICOLESWEETY 2 years ago
pacquiao was tested DOZENS of times during the last few years and has been clean his entire career...
there is NO REAL evidence...
it seems now that even mayweather fans are making excuses... typical.
some of you ppl need to realize we are witnessing something special. and not some fake ass wanabe fighter
swiffstep 2 years ago
there is no real evidence against barry bonds either you tit. wake up, the sport needs to be taken from corruption to the real playing field. Pac just happens to be at the forefront of the reformation of the sport. If he cant do random, fuck him. The sport wont stay on easily passed urine tests for long.
pacisacherrypicker 2 years ago
@pacisacherrypicker tellin me to wake up? wtf.. if u wana accuse him of doin drugs when hes been tested clean 100% then your saying that all of champions in history are all cheaters cuz they werent tested either. manny took the same tests.. and if u change the whole sport than everything in the past would be miscredited. i agree that the corruption in boxing should be cleaned out. but this is rediculous.. just let the guy take it right after the fight. thats when its counts the most anyway
swiffstep 2 years ago
@ swiffstep
Do you know anything about peds? After the fight is useless, because if you know when you have to test, you can take what you need to and when. the drugs we are refrerring to are used mostly in hard training and need to be cycled off to be effective. the whole point of random is to monitor red blood cell count as well, that is a big flag in blood doping, whether they know what to look for or not.
svntsvn 2 years ago
manny refused cuz its not in the rules of the commission. fighters dont make new rules for their opponents, especially when they are threatened. if the commission had it in the rules.. team pac woulnt have a reason to refuse. but i know what your guna say... oh... boxing doesnt have valid testing anymore etc.. save it. floyd is worried he'll lose his O. if he was as good as he claims he woulda signed the contract regardless like a fearless fighter. but nope.
swiffstep 2 years ago
Excuses.
svntsvn 2 years ago
ignorance
swiffstep 2 years ago
@swiffstep Really, so because it's not in the commission Pac couldn't have agreed to the randoms? Funny how Mosley agreed tot them. Ur pretty much saying that Floyd, with a perfect record should fight a highly suspected user who refuses to take a random drug test? Thats moronic LOL! Mosley admitted to PED use for multiple fights and still passed the NSAC tests. They are NOT EFFECTIVE. Pac is the one ducking, and over a blood test? Neither FIGHTERS are scared to fight but Pac's scared to TEST!
capoeiraike 2 years ago
even if shane used peds in some of his fights it doesnt really take that much away from his wins..hes a warrior that fought everyone. floyd is undefeated but who has he beat? guys that werent even on his level. he injects painkillers into his body before he gets in the ring. if he was as good as he claims he should be steppin up to bigger challenges. your only excuse is that since mosely got away with it so must pac! but its conpsiracies and rumours started by team mayweather gain advantage
swiffstep 2 years ago
@swiffstep Using PED's doesn't take much away from a win? You're joking right? U say this but complain about xylocaine? LOL! Sorry man you are reaching, xylocaine is no where near the enhancer PED's are plus it's legal in vegas where the majority of Floyd fights are held. So NEXT! Stepping up to bigger challenges? HMM apparently you didn't get the memo that Floyd is fighting Mosley WIth RANDOMS. Let's see, Mosley is ranked #3 P4P and Clottey, where is he on the list, oh yeah he isn't. NEXT
capoeiraike 2 years ago
@swiffstep No I have no excuses, just FACTS. Mosley being able to skate around the commission's tests is PROOF to me that current tests are not the most effective tests available for PED'S and that they can be easily beaten. No, of course this doesn'' mean Pac is guilty, but Pac's illogical reasons for not wanting to take randoms and NEED to RELY on the standard INEFFECTIVE testing leaves suspicions with UNBIASED fans.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
@capoeiraike Floyd knew it and so he used steroids too same logic applies to all now. So let him stop fighting in Nevada, ist time to make boxing put in a plain playing field. The most suspicious boxer is Floyd Maweather actually.
pedomohd 2 years ago
@pedohohn, What R U talking about? First of all you're talking about a LEGAL substance that NOBODY cares about. Neither Psc, nor his camp care about xylocaine. The only people who cry about xylocaine are whining Pac fanatics who have absolutely no clue as to how PED'S work. Xylocaine is nowhere near HGH,EPO,CLEAR,ANDRO, ETC! Ahhhhh no sorry, everybody KNOWS Floyd uses Xylocaine which would make him the least suspicious boxer, LOL! especially now since him AND MOSLEY have agreed to RANDOMS.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
@capoeiraike good coment pacman = juice maywether 100% natural p4p clean champ not on juice.
vbo437 2 years ago
@vbo437, I cant say if pac is clean or dirty for sure, but his actions are certainly suspect and indicative of someone who has something to hide. Floyd on the other hand is clean and willing to prove it to the world and yet these dumbasses like pedomohd choose to be biased and demonize Floyd for trying to prove the fighters will be truly clean. That is truly retarded. Anyways, it is nice to see another voice of reason and logic amongst the sea of pactards. Peace.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
brou no one can run for a 40 million dollar fight for 2 spun of blood ramdon test no one 40 million dollar fight wtf??????????? this man have something to hide and the real tru he don't whant to get cut.
vbo437 2 years ago
@vbo437, Real talk man, No man, especially with nothing to hide turns down 40 mil, a chance to cement his legacy, set an example of fairness in pro sports, and the chance to shut up his accusers over a SIMPLE BLOOD TEST. NO CLEAN MAN WOULD DO THAT. I don't know why these fools can't see that. It's simple logic. Peace bro.
capoeiraike 2 years ago
bro i am 100% with you nice coment .
vbo437 2 years ago
@capoeiraike why not suspect Floyd on using steroids when they are a family of drug trafficckers and criminals frequently punish by the US laws? They the first suspect as dirty people living dirty lives. Where is the proof Pacquiao is taking roids?
pedomohd 1 year ago
@pedomohd
Why not accuse floyd? because Floyd was willing to take that drug test Faggy PacRoid was not and Faggy Pac made like 5 different excuses of why he didnt want to take that blood test. Floyd and Mosley are both taking random blood test for their next fight on May 1st... Floyd doesn't hide anything, there for I have no reason to believe that Floyd is cheating.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@pedomohd
yeah right you PacTart! Faggy PacRoids is just as dirty as Margarito is. As a matter of fact isnt Faggy PacRoids considering Margarito as a next opponent? Over looking Paul Williams and Devon Alexander who are both clean and would hand him his ass?
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star where is the proof if you are talking about fairness? maybe you are only serving your own stomach and never even bother to think an accused is innocent until proven guilty. The mayweathers find it impossible to prove their allegations in court and they have to pay moral damages on their irresponsible dirty mouth. Why not anybody amongst the mayweather dick suckers even bother to question the integrity of NSAC and qucik on PAcquiao?
pedomohd 1 year ago
@pedomohd
Where is the proof you ask? I'll tell you like I tell every other PacTart... The proof is in Pacs Blood that pac refuses to submit for 40 mill. Refusing a blood for 40 mill? shit if that isnt fucking proof to you than what do you need? You need for Pac to go in a ring with needles sticking out of his ass? Another question? name me one athlete that has been tested for PED with then having proof first? Now name me one athlete that has refused a blood test that turned out clean @ da end
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star why not take a haitr sample and have it tested? then you can prove he is using PED. For Floyd its is already obvious being a family of drug traffickers, woman beaters, etc... in short a family of criminals dont need any proof their convictions aNd admittance of guilt many times not once, is more than enough
pedomohd 1 year ago
@pedomohd
OK you ass! How many times need I say that Floyd Mayweather is taking a fucking random blood test, so how can you say he is taking drugs if he and mosley are taking the most effective drug test in the world. What does it matter if his father trafficked drugs, guns or even fucking body parts? Floyd is taking the USDA Olympic drug test... That is proof that he is clean... unlike Faggy PacRoids. Faggy PacRoid makes his own dates when he wants to be tested how fucking stupid.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star, Dude, don't waste you're time. Pactards have no concept of basic logic.
capoeiraike 1 year ago
@capoeiraike
Yeah I know man these pacTarts are serious worshipers. I'm realizing that.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
He was willing to take it right after the fight. That should prove he's got nothing to hide.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
IGF-1 is a steroid that stays in the blood for only 24 hours. Ofcourse Manny has something to hide... his steroid contaminated blood. Give me one "LOGICAL" explination why he wouldn't take that test? Blood test needs to be random... Floyd and Mosley did it and they sold more than Pac when he fought clottey... so they did something right. Pac is a cheating pussy.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Ok, then they can take it just minutes after the fight. Why does Gayweather insist on taking it before the fight when that won't prove anything? If he takes a blood test 2 days before the fight, he could just start juicing right after the test is over.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Dude if IGF-1 says in the blood for 24 hours... Pac can take it one day before the fight and show up clean one day after. He can also take EPO that only shows up in the blood for about 19 hours... dont you get it? None of you PacTarts ever do. Like I said give me one "LOGICAL" ADULT" explination to why Faggy cant take that blood test.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
If he takes the test minutes after the fight, it would still show. There's no way he can time the dosage so it dissappears from his system just minutes after the fight. Oh, and you still haven't given me info on where I can information on it.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Right you ass! so why is there random blood testing done all over the world? to all different types of athletes then? Arguing with you PacTarts is so fucking annoying you answer with more questions... never have anything to bring to the table in an argument. Do this you fucking pacTart you find the info on IGF-1 that says that its stays in the blood for longer than I said and pretty much everyone says... bring something to the table for once instead of just more questions.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
First of all, part of an argument is asking more questions. It's because you don't have answers to those questions that you're getting so annoyed. Second of all, the burden of proof is on you. If you claim that drug lasts only 24 hours, it's not up to me to prove it's not true. It's up to you to prove it is true. If there's an article on it online, you can easily send me the link.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
One reason HGH is so hard to detect, even with the best blood tests, is because the pituitary gland puts it out in pulses - not as a constant stream - and it clears the system very quickly. Since the body clears it so fast the best way to detect it is threw a random blood test wouldnt you say you fucking PacTart? I'm gonna send you a link you fucking PactTart! bring something to the table you stupid tart for once not just questions.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
I have to ask question because of your outrageous claims. If I said Mayweather cheats, there's no way you wouldn't ask questions.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Evidently you didn't read the article thoroughly. It also says that it's hard to tell if a blood test can even detect it. Plus, even if they could, it would have to be taken almost at the same time the drug is applied. In order to work, several blood tests would have to be taken at different times.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Exactly genius! the best way to stay on top of a slick cheater like Manny is to test randomly... it is the best weapon against drugs that are hard to detect. Manny wouldnt be sure when to take his IGF-1 because he wouldnt know when they might come knocking on his door. The USDA will also save blood samples for the future... and as their blood testing advances they will keep testing manny's blood. Now you know why Manny is so afraid.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
What I'm saying is, even a random blood test wouldn't work. The only way to detect it is to give him several blood tests which is out of the question, because that would weaken him for sure.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
OK so now its time for you to bring something to the table. Show me scientific facts that state that random blood testing can weaken an athlete. Remember this before you go on your quest... the human body can make up to a pint of blood in about 24 hours... the healthier the person the faster they make blood. Remember this also Mosley and Floyd both took the random blood test and fought all 12 rounds... and so do cyclist and many other athletes.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
Lance Armstrong a "Cancer Surviver" got random blood tested and rode his bike around the entire France... and WON the tour the farnce several times, but little cheating hiding pussy Faggy PacRoids cant have less than a tea spoon of blood drawn for a blood test? He's either really fucking stupid or hiding something. There you go some more real data for you, you can look up Lance Armstrong if you want.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
It's a phobia. Do you know what that means? It's psychological. That may seem like a copout to you, but if you were in the biggest fight of your career, the smallest psychological disadvantage could cost him everything. Oh, and I've taken blood tests before. They take well over one tea spoon.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad Phobia? dude look up people with real phobias right here on youtube, theres a video of a man who runs at the sight of peaches because he has a phobia to them.. I'll send you the link. Unless Manny was clinically diagnosed with a "phobia" dont mention the word. He doesn't have a phobia.. Manny is a excuse making PUSSY big difference. 1 teaspoon 2 3 what ever... I know that athletes from all over the world male and feamale take that test and perform great. Why cant manny?
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
Manny is either hiding something or just a plain idiot. So if you know manny is that stupid why do you support his dumb beliefs? I bet you if Manny's fans didn't support his rediculous excuses... manny would be forced to actually learn how the human body and blood testing really works. So long as PacTarts support him them what reason does he have to actually learn anything? This man is so fucking stupid and supersticious and he is running politically in his country? LOL
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
I don't support his excuses. Maybe he's just making excuses for losing to Morales, but that doesn't change the fact that he still believes it. If a fight is this crucial, he can't afford to have a psychological disadvantage. Besides, how would a 14 day window prove anything? He could just start juicing after the test is over.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Do you believe that there is a possibility that Pac might be juicing? because that to me is the difference of a PacTart or not. PacTarts are so up Manny's ass that in their eyes Manny would never do such a thing. I dont put anything past anyone. I think random blood testing is the best thing that can happen to boxing and manny isnt the only boxer I suspect of cheating.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
There's a possibility. I just don't think there's substantial evidence. If I were using HGH, I would just agree to the 14 day window and start juicing as soon as the test is over. How is using a 10 extra days gonna make the difference?
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Well you never know what new tricks the USADA has up its sleeves, so you might submit blood 14 days before the fight and they might have the technoligy avilable to determine if you been doping or not. They can also store the blood for future analysis. Honestly I have never seen anyone turn down a blood test that turned out to be clean in the end... so to me Manny turning down that blood test makes him look very guilty.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
What you just said doesn't make sense. If he starts taking it after the test is over, it won't matter how effective it is. There won't be any in his blood. He might as well take it after.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
How you figure if you was fighting 14 days from now... and got tested today... you will have 2 weeks to juice up and not worry about being tested again. Truthfully you and I arent chemist all I know is that there are PED's and every day there is a different way to beat it and cheat... and till this day random blood testing is the most efficient way of testing available.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
What do you mean? If they get tested once, that's it. They're not gonna get tested after the 14 day window. That's what was agreed upon. It has nothing to do with chemistry or technology. I just think PED's wouldn't be the reason he won't take the test. Why would he put himself through all this greaf just to have an extra 10 days to juice?
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
I dont think manny would do this you dont think Manny would do that... guy you are starting to sound like a PacTart. If you are a PacTart reasoning with you is out of the question because you dont think manny would do anything and you buy in to what ever excuse he gives. Manny is a grown man and I want a grown man answer to why cant he take a random blood test... fuck superstitions, phobias, 14 days, 30 days. I dont have to treat manny as if he's a little girl hes a man.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Ok, then just answer my last question. How would an extra 10 days make a significant difference? The article you showed me said, HGH doesn't do that much in general, let alone just an extra 10 days of using it.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Dude fuck 10 days or 14 days you are getting way too technical for trying to explain why Pac wouldnt take a damn blood test. Truthfully your question doesn't even make sense. You are trying to figure out whats in Pacs head as if you are some kind of psychologist on why he wont take that blood test. You have way too many theories and your theories with Pacs excuses and superstitions makes this a dead argument. Talk Facts!
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
My argument is, if he were taking HGH and that's the reason he won't agree to a 14 day window, he would've given in by now, because an extra 10 days wouldn't make a significant difference.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
I'll give you 2 facts (FACT #1) The USADA random blood test is the most efficient blood test for finding cheaters
(FACT #2) There has never been an athlete that refused a random blood test that turned out being clean in the end. Look at Mark Maguire for example.
When dealing with Pac I have to deal with too many damn theories, superstitions ,weird beliefs, and excuses from his fans. They keep trying to tell me whats in Pacs head nothing solid EVER!
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Here are some facts for you:
1) The last time he lost was to Morales. That was also the last time he'd given blood too close to the fight.
2) Mayweather never made these blood test demands with anyone else. And he already knew about Manny's concerns about giving blood close to the fight.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
These are your facts? your facts are based on a theory, the theory that Manny says he lost to Morales because of a blood test. No matter how you put it it still goes back to Faggy PacRoids rediculous theory.. that you and all other PacTarts buy... by the way are you Filipino?
Well if you have a boxer that used to get beat up and SUCKED! now suddenly he is accomplishing the impossible what would you think? Floyd is smart "safety first" why should he care about pac being a girl?
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
When did he "suck" exactly? Your "facts" are not supported by numbers. All I hear is "his head is HUGE" and "he used to suck". And the Morales thing is not a theory. He talked about it in an interview years ago. That's why I'm a little suspicious of Gayweather's true intentions in demanding that blood test. He never wanted it before, now we're suopposed to believe he's so concerned about steroid use? Where was this concern before?
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
And don't even bring up unfounded theories. Would you like me to enumerate the ones you've brought up so far?
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Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
You asked me if there's a possibility that Pac might be juicing. Well, let me ask you: Do you think it's possible that this drug test demand could be a tactic against him by the Gayweather camp, especially since they already knew of his concerns earlier on?
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Dude I could give a fuck about Manny's concerns how many times do I have to say that. I don't have to look at manny as if he's a fucking child and neither does Floyd ore anyone else. Manny is a fucking man! Faggy PacRoids is either juicing or he is seriously that much of a bitch that he is afraid of needles. Bitch or Cheater both bad i said that b4.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Oh, and stop asking my why I support his superstition about blood testing. You wanna talk about arguing like a child? Well, let's talk about your childish view that the fans (or PacTarts as you would put it) have some kind of say in what decisions he makes. It's not like we meet him in a conference room and advise him on what to do and say.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Well he's a boxer and boxers "HURT PEOPLE" sometimes even "KILL PEOPLE" . The people that want Pac to take that blood test are people that think about other boxers and the well being of the sport. PacTarts could care less about the well being of any other boxer... shit most of them dont know any other boxer. Pacs Cheating is "DANGEROUS" and I wouldnt want to see anyone get there lives ruined by some fucking cheating juice head or even killed. So my VIEWS are for a good purpose.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
These "concerned people" lost a blood sample he gave them a month before the Morales fight. Then what do they do? They tell him just 2 days before the fight (when they could've told him weeks earlier) and make him take another one so close to the fight. That's part of the reason he's suspicious and paranoid. A mistake like that hardly ever happens. I
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
So fucking what? I have seen boxers win fights gushing blood out there noses all 12 fucking rounds... and Manny thinks he lost because of a blood test near the fight? Dude that is some real fucking bitch shit! Manny was always open to get hit and had gotten knocked out before in other fights... he lost because he's a bum. Manny's tactic has always been just swing swing swing. He has no defense Y is he so shocked that he lost? Fuck him and his crying... Get the fuck over it already.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Even the bloodiest fights don't take as much blood as a blood test. Do some fucking research. And on top of giving blood, he couldn't eat or drink, because it would screw up his weight. And once and for all: When do you think he started using? And when did he suck? How long have you been following his career?
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
It could have been incompetence, it could've also been a set-up. So don't try to make it sound like these people are angels concerned for people's lives. They're partly to blame for this whole blood test controversy. There's just as much reason to suspect them as there is him.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Who are these people who tested him? It only shows how fucking incompetent the boxing comission blood testing really is... who losses blood samples? Have you heard anyone tested by the USADA go threw that? This is more of a reason the the USADA should be testing instead of the boxing commission. Anyway that's still no excuse for manny to be such a bitch.. or in my opinion taking HGH.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
No, they haven't before. Then again, nobody ever lost their sample with that other place either. Shit happens, doesn't it?
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
I was asking you to name the drugs, numbnuts.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
"HGH,EPO,CLEAR,ANDRO, ETC" If you scroll down you will see that someone else posted these already... but you are a fucking PacTard. With info RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE!! you still dont know shit. You never answered me... ARE YOU FILIPINO? You must be the way you worship Pac.. You PacTard.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Yes, I am. So what? The concern should be the validity of our arguments, not how emotionally invested we are in them. But if you want to bring up emotional investment, it seems like you really have it out for Pac. So far you have brought up the fact that he has no defensive game, and you keep bringing up his "political career" which have no bearing on this argument.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Packs stupidity has allot of bearing on this argument and his political career is just an example of how stupid he is and even dumber his country men that voted for him. Pac is bearly educated and he's a congress man isnt that stupid? Are there really that many PacTards in the Philippines? You know he won that election by a landslide right? Pac being afraid of needles and blaming the morales fight is such a stupid excuse of him and his fans.
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osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
I didn't want him to win! No educated Filipino wanted him to win! It's sad. Yes. But it has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Do you just wanna go and say that Filipinos are stupid? If that's what this whole thing was about, go ahead and say it instead of keeping up this PED charade.
osamabad 1 year ago
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@Venus1Star
If you wanna say he's stupid and uneducated for thinking the blood test could weaken him, go ahead. If you wanna say he's a pussy for being afraid of giving a little blood, be my guest. Hell, I even agree with you a little. That doesn't prove he's a juicer, does it? In fact, it proves the opposite.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Sounds to me like you just don't like him or maybe you just don't like Filipinos or people in third world countries for that matter. Maybe you're just insecure about the fact that someone from a third world country actually stands a chance of beating one of the greatest American fighters. Your comments are filled with hateful words that don't sound like they're coming from an objective observer.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Are you serious you PacTard? I like Nonito Doniare he is Filipino and I bet you anything you are gonna have to look up who he is. Most of you PacTards dont know any other boxer but Pac not even the other ones from your country. Stop using the race card guy you get more and more pathetic with every post.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
You're right. I do have to look him up. The fact that I do shows that he's not that well known yet, but god forbid he should actually become as famous as Pacquiao you would start a smear campaign against him as well. I was wrong. You don't have a problem with Filipinos, you just have a problem with them excelling in sports that were once dominated by westerners.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Check out the video on my page called "Manny Pac exposed" You can see freddy roach his OWN TRAINER admiting that manny fights weaker dehydrated guys.. like Oscar and Hatton and Cotto. LOL. His own trainer knows Manny is a fucking piece of shit. All that drugs for what?
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
and really what do you mean by HOW IS JUICING UP 14 DAYS GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE? Are you telling me that if Pac or any other juicer has 14 days which they know that they are not gonna be tested... it won't work in there benefit? That is where you lost me why because that is just so fucking stupid to say... are you on fucking crack guy? You make no sense at times.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
You are too stuck on what I told you about HGH also guy... Pac could be taking anything... prob some shit we never even heard of. HGH is just what he is suspected of taking could be any other PED. I would never believe Pacs excuses... he cant possibly be that stupid... he just won a damn congress election... he cant be that fucking retarded and superstitious.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
He hasn't won yet, and believe me, the people voting for him are the stupid ones. He's just cashing in on a golden opportunity. You said that HGH leaves your system after a day. That's why you believe he's taking it. Any other PED would be detected by conventional methods. This is the problem by Pac haters. You guys keep changing your theories. Everytime one is proven wrong, you come up with another one.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
You are a serious PacTart! Guy if I knew what Pac was taking just by looking at him THEN WE WOULDN'T NEED A FUCKING TEST YOU PACTART!! I Mentioned HGH just to let you know that there are drugs that are in and out of your system... You didn't know that there was such drugs as a matter of fact I had to send you articles to educate you. Its not just HGH there are different types of steroids and EPO also.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
If there are, name them. I'll check for myself.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Name for what guy? what the hell are you talking about?
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
check this video called (Mayweather vs Mosley - Pacquiao EXPOSED) You will see Pacs own trainer admiting that they only seeked out Oscar, Hatton and Cotto because they knew they were damaged goods. LOL. Roach also admits that he dint want no part of mosley haha "WHOM FLOYD BEAT!" Wow no confidence in Manny his own trainer LOL. I knew deep down roach knows that Manny is a BUM!
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
There you go again! Making more statements that have no bearing on this argument. But for the record, people always make excuses everytime he beats someone. His critics are never satisfied with any win. If he does take this blood test, passes it, and goes on to beat Mayweather, would you then be satisfied, or will you make another excuse?
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
If Pac takes that blood test and beats Mayweather I will call him one of the best ever. A random blood test all the way till the day of the fight... by the USDA.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Oh, now it has to be till the day of the fight? You know very well about his concerns about doing that. If you had kept the 14 day window in your argument, you would have had something solid, but now it's starting to seem like you have the same intentions as the Gaywether camp.
osamabad 1 year ago
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@osamabad
See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
"Well if you have a boxer that used to get beat up and SUCKED! now suddenly he is accomplishing the impossible what would you think?"
Sound familiar?
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
What? what sounds familiar?
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
If you yourself say that every guy he's beaten recently is "damaged goods", then why do you also say he's "accomplishing the impossible"? Your arguments are inconsistent. First you say he wins because he's on PED's. Now you're saying it's because he fought weakened opponents. I think you just don't like him, so you'll do anything to discredit him. If your "roid thoery" doesn't pan out, you'll find another way to prove he's a fraud.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Did you watch the video? what do you think? his own trainer is admiting that they have selected their opponents based on their weaknesses, Roach admits that Oscar was a tired Oscar and when he fought Manny it was almost like when younger Oscar fought older Chavez. He also admits that he wouldnt risk pac with Mosley cause Mosley is too good... well floyd beat mosley. Dude his own trainer called him a fraud that's pretty much game over guy. That's like a check mate.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
The fact that you're bringing that video up shows just how pathetic and desperate you are. He hasn't even taken the blood test or fought Gayweather yet, and already you have a new "backup" excuse lined up just in case. I gotta hand it to you. You're really on top of things.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
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@osamabad See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
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@osamabad See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
See how much of a cum guzzling PacTard you are? any other person would have been like WOW I cant believe his own trainer is admiting to selecting opponents based on there weaknesses but not you PacTards even after Freddy Roach admits that they are afraid of Mosley. Dude his own trainer is admiting to those things WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? Nothing! All that is new to me... if anything" I have even LESS RESPECT FOR PAC" after seeing Roach admit that he's a bum himself.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
Wow any other person would be like wow man I cant believe Freddy Roach is admiting to selecting weaker aponents and being afraid of Mosley WHOM FLOYD BEAT, but you just turn around and blame it on me. You are like a wife who covers her ears when they tell her her man is cheating on her. You are a loyal sucker. haha.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
You really need to decide what it is you wanna argue about. First you're talking about him using steroids, and now you're talking about him cherry picking his opponents. Why do you keep bringing up crap that has no bearing on our argument? The truth is, I can say the same things about Gayweather, but I don't because it's beyond the scope of this conversation.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Since when are there specific rules in an argument you stupid PacTartd? If you dont wanna talk no more then stop fucking writing back... do I have a gun to your head you PacTartd? I can't learn anything from you anyway... none of you Pactards ever has anything to say but cry and complaint.. You should thank me for educating you a bit... you really know nothing about anything.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Ok, let's do away with the rules altogether, shall we? From now on, we can say anything negative about each fighter, even if it's unrelated.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Did you know that Gayweather guest stars in reality shows? He's nothing but a self-promoting attention whore. In fact he'd be much better as an actor or reality star than a boxer. He should be the next host for The Contender.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
So, I'm gonna give you a minute to ultimately decide what it is you wanna discuss. Make your decision, then we'll talk
osamabad 1 year ago
Respond to this video...
I dont wanna discuss anything with you PacTard I havent learned a single thing from you. All you do is ask questions and then get upset when I slap you in the face with facts. You didn't ask me who were the boxers who beat manny up when I posted it before? You crying bitch? You didnt ask me if I have manny's head measurements? about HGH? about other drugs? All you do is ask and then cry when the facts hit you about your Gay hero Faggy Pacroids.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
Really now is more about what you dont wanna hear about your hero. The more you dont wanna hear it the more I wanna tell you... LOL.. I love abusing you. You have no come back cause you dont know anything about boxing or any other boxer but Pac. Your like a sitting duck. Your come backs are questions... and speculations I'm throwing videos, articles, names and facts at you... you stupid PacTard.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
Back up? dude there isnt a single thing that I have said about Fake Ass Faggy PacRoids that isnt a fact. He's a pussy how ever you look at it. From getting beat up in the past and knocked out, to selecting fighters based on there weaknesses ,to not taking a blood test. I honestly believe he is taking some kind of EPO and now its been confirmed by his OWN TRAINER!!! That manny is a big fake. I dislike him even more now. He's more of a pussy than I thought he was.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Between the roids and the cherry picking, you make it sound like Roach could take any bum from the streets and make him famous. If that's the case, why would he get someone from the other side of the world? Wouldn't it be easier to get someone local? Let me guess: Affirmative action? Yeah, that's it. Old Freddie is doing his part to give third worlders a fair shake in the boxing world.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Pac has PacTards that follow him defend him and watch all his fights... Freddy knows that by building Faggy PacRoids up he can milk the PacTards. 90% of PacTards never watched boxing before pac only know the names of Pacs apponents and wont watch boxing after Pac... so freddy needs to milk those idiots as much as he can. It isnt hard to throw a blanket over Pac fans heads and fuck them in the ass. LOL
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
Its the impossible to Manny. If Manny was getting beat by bums knocked out, outpunched, dropped and even has draws with bums like Agapito Sanches... how is he beating bums that are much bigger than him. For how Pathetic Manny fights it is the impossible. Come on man he got knocked out by Medgoen Singsurat. Although Cotto, Oscar and Hatton were washed they are still better than the bums manny faced in the past. Manny is a fraud how ever you put it.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Wow, you're gonna bring up a fight which was over a decade ago, when he was less experienced. You wanna talk about filtering information? How about the fact that you totally igonored all the guys he's knocked out, and focused solely on the one guy that knocked him out?
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
The fact is, he only lost 3 matches in his career (Morales being one of them). Yet somehow he sucked back then according to you. The fact of the matter is, you've used his previous victories as "proof" that he's on steroids, because he can't beat guys that big, but you later said that those guys were weakened and that's why he beat them. You're constantly changing your argument.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
"Manny is a fraud how ever you put it."
I think that proves my point. You just wanna discredit him any way you can.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
How is he beating bums bigger than him? Last I checked, he weighed the same as his opponents. Those fights you're mentioning were years ago when he was a lot smaller. And if he sucked so bad, why did Roach take him under his wing? If he was gonna feed someone PED's, he may as well pick someone who was already good to begin with, so he wouldn't have to pick weak opponents as well.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Is that another question you pacTartd? are you gonna cry and pull the race card again if you dont like my answer? Dude Freddy Roach himself is saying that he picks easy opponents for Pac... why are you asking me? You are acting as if I'm making it up I showed you a fucking video for crying out loud. Freddy admits Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto were damaged goods and thats why he picked them.. he also says HE IS SCARED OF MOSLEY!!! Mayweather beat mosley... floyd wasnt scared! Pac is PUSSY
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
You can't fucking make up your mind. Whenever you get backed into a corner, you just steer to another topic and get upset when I tell you to stick to the argument. But I'll humor you. I watched the video. Most of the "facts" were posted as quotes from other people, not Roach. He didn't say they were scared of Mosley. He said there was more money in fighting Cotto.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
So why did mayweather sell more PPV by fighting Mosley than when Pac fought Cotto?? Floyd sold 1,400,000 and manny sold 1,250,000. And why did Roach say Mosley is not Oscar he is better than Oscar? but fought Oscar and not Mosley? Dude I really feel like I'm abusing you LOL. You couldnt back me into a corner with a bulldozer... I cant help it if I'm over welming you with facts you PacTard. hahaha
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@osamabad
Notice that you never refresh the page... you will keep talking about what I bring up never bringing in some fresh new info yourself. Come on man! Give me some facts! Numbers! Names! you are getting boring... not challenging at all. I'm almost done with you dont be too shocked when I just stop responding to your lame ass.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
I wouldn't be surprised either. You just keep saying the same things, even when they have nothing to do with what we're saying. You run out of arguments so you come up with new ones. By the tone of your last post, you're starting to sound worried. I have several posts here (not questions) that you have yet to respond to.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
You have presented a lot of facts. Facts that have nothing to do with the argument. Notice you haven't even brought PED's in a while. I post a comment, and instead of refuting it, you shove another unrelated fact in my face.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Here are some unrelated facts. Gayweather Sr. was a juice head. Gayweathers are known for being criminals.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Besides, Mosely is old and would have to lose a lot of weight to fight Manny. An old weight drained fighter? Hmmmmm, that sounds familiar. He slaughtered De La Hoya and his critics did nothing but bitch about how it wasn't a fair match up. If he had fought Shane, I garuntee your dumbasses would be saying the same thing.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Don't tell me guy tell Freddy Roach Manny's trainer who already admited that shane was too much of a risk for Pac. He even says "SHANE ISN'T OSCAR" meaning that he knows Oscar is done but shane isnt. Yeah it does sound Familiar... Faggy Pac made Cotto struggle down to 144 because he knows cotto has a hard time making that weight. Your boy Faggy PacRoids is PUSSY! a FAKE! a CHEATER and has a big head hahaha
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
He said they weren't gonna risk fighting a bigger fighter if he's that good. Which makes sense, because that would give him an unfair advantage.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Mosley is 5'9 Oscar is 5'10 LOL. try a different excuse you PacTard! Pac is just PUSSY!!!! afraid of Mosley. hahaha. This is too easy.
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Did you not get my last comment regarding Mosley and Oscar? Oh, you did. You just ignored it like you did so many of my other comments.
osamabad 1 year ago
@osamabad
Why did you say there is no Money in fighting shane when Floyd and Shane made 1,400,000 PPV you stupid pactard? Is it that people rather see Flod fight? than Faggy PacRoids? LOL. Is Floyd more entertaining to watch? Is Pac a boring piece of shit? and only PacTards watch him?
Venus1Star 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
Are you fucking retarded? I never said that. I said Roach (incorrectly) predicted there wasn't as much money in it. Plus, Gaywether was a better match for him since they're closer in size.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
You're showing clear signs of desperation. First you steer the topic away from PED's. Then you keep repeating questions I've already answered. Then you make up stuff I never said.
osamabad 1 year ago
@Venus1Star
So, according to you, even Cotto was weight drained. News flash: Gayweather and Mosley are bigger than Cotto! If he can't beat Cotto without bitches like you complaining about his weight, how would he beat the other 2 without you saying the same thing? Maybe he's wasting his time trying to beat anyone, since all you do is come up with a new excuse.
osamabad 1 year ago