You should definitely NOT run around shaking children and telling them that there is no Santa Claus, or do the same to adults! Even all the grown men and women that want to have "In Santa Claus We Trust" on US currency, force kids to pledge an allegiance to "one nation under Santa Claus", try to replace The Theory of Evolution with Santa Claus and his little helpers, and try to speak to Santa Claus telepathically to seek guidance on real life issues.
The rule of biblegod is to have complete faith in him, and no faith in man. When a believer says 'it's the exception not the rule' to believers relying on prayer and not medical treatments, (1) they expose how little faith most believers actually have, (2) they go directly against what their own beliefs demand.
It is not the fact that religions are preaching a world view which is being objected to but the content of the world view - surely this is an easy distinction to see. by this guy's logic voicing any opinion against any other opinion would be hypocrisy.
People fight for potato chips in front of the take away , does that mean we have to go and ban the potatoes? We have to ban the person who is fighting and not the chips , sorry atheists your idea of religion is wrong !
People will always have trouble wether religion or not, religion doesn't cause problems but ignorance does , people's ignorance does !
It is a political thing. The only people who are trying to legislate their beliefs on other people are the religious politicians who think that morality can be forced upon others. Your normal every day Christian is not like that and doesn't support it. Sure, you have your occasional ignoramus but only the confused and ignorant are doing it. So, since we know that, why not start a TV show that speaks against religious politicians and not against Christianity as a whole? Thanks.
@loudcymbals You're certain about the "normal everyday Christian" has no interest in imposing their beliefs, moral, "scientific", ect? Change comes from the bottom, the US suggests "normal everyday Christian" do want to impose their beliefs. Some moral issues aren't necessarily dependent on religion, but people should consider what they truly feel is moral and maybe society can benefit from that. Despite the intensity of such beliefs in theists, there is no reason one can't hope for even the...
@Bourtini (cont.) most hopeless to guide themselves in a better stance of rationally considering morals, science, ect.
Secondly, some Christians can appreciate being skeptical about their beliefs, it isn't the objective of this show to rid Christianity (you'd understand if you'd watched). Most importantly, this applies to individuals that can consider being misguided in their moral and scientific beliefs indoctrinated by their religious organizations.
@Bourtini Furthermore: Consider Matt, a once Evangelical Christian that desired true beliefs. I would type the rest, but it is in the video above and was quite clear (promoting being skeptic and rational). The more a society cares about its beliefs, Matt expects to see a better society, and I would agree.
belief in Santa Claus doesnt ruin our judicial system and instill laws that dont make sense that the rest of us non-believers have to follow as a rule of law. And the bible hasnt aided this human race in science or medical breakthroughs. if we still prayed to a god to heal diseases or illnesses then we'd still be living in the dark ages where science and free thought were stagnated because the bible was taught as the answers to the universe and all your questions, its not that easy
atheists shove their beliefs down the throats of others far more than Christians! He fails to realize that his value in science and reason is no more or less subjective than a Christians value in faith.
@MrCaptainSr79 But science is demonstrable. We have to do the best with what we have within the context of the world we live in, and since reason is our means of survival, gathering evidence and making predictions based on that evidence makes sense. Following a collection of books, that everyone interprets differently isn't even on the same level. Most atheists don't shove their beleifs down people's throats, since they want people to think for themselves.
@VanessaTexasGal Note that I said "his value" in science and reason. I never said that science and reason is subjective- it's not. What I'm saying is that his personal value in it is subjective, meaning that his idea that it is good and religion is bad is subject to his opinion. The outcomes created by religion and science are completely different, so it's really just a matter of which outcome the individual interprets as being better.
@MrCaptainSr79 Atheism is the deafult position. You can't shove atheism down a kids throat, because they probably don't believe in any god, untill you tell them that there is a god. You are raised to be a christian, muslim, hindu etc...
@VanessaTexasGal This is based on the premise that because atheism is our genetic, we technically can't be changed to atheism. I'm sure you believe on logic, well look up the genetic fallacy of logic and then explain to me how this does not fall into that category. Just because we start atheist doesn't mean that we stay atheist, or that someone can't try to shove their atheist values down the throats of someone who has been lead to believe otherwise.
I understand that the host relies on evidence for his determination of reality, but he discredits "personal" evidence experienced by the individual alone.
I guess if you don't have a lone experience (doesn't need to be faith based) you wouldn't have faith in something others claim o be true, however, not experiencing something doesn't disqualify its possibility.
@algol291 Of course it does not disqualify the possibility. But he diminishes personal evidence as it should never be enough to convince anyone. Not even yourself, for example I see a dinosaur now walked outside of my bedroom window. I would be omg and I was getting my camera but then it was gone. I go around all the house in the neighborhood and ask if they saw it too?
No of them saw it. So then my personal experience might be faulty.
Naturalism & evolution is the atheists "religion", therefore evolutionary science has in fact legislated the atheists religious views by not allowing any other hypothesis but a naturalistic one
This naturalistic dogma has been established by Poppers illogical falsification method, God can not be proven false, therefore science has affirmed naturalism at all costs from what they do not know & not from what they know. This method defies all rational thought, yet it is liberal logic at it finest
When we debate Christians we usually say (when they get offended) that it isnt about them personally its about the topic.
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But if we step back and look it really is about them.... the problem isnt about what they believe its about how they came to believing it. And most of the time its a major flaw in the persons thought patterns, that directly effects everything about them.
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It really is about them. Its about there insecurities, there wants and desires and the rejection of who they are.
Santa existed,the tradition of presents at festivals+ feasts+marriage existed before christianity.Christians are specificly prohibited from having trees or celebrating christmas(book of jerimiah 3-4), easter and other pagan festivals.Jesus is a false idol he even says specificly to worship GOD by praying not him as he is only the son here to point you in the right direction , the cross isnt christian in fact the christian symbol is a fish.Anymore truths christians ignore about thier faith?
@TamaNewb Its all true tho, every festival in christianity is paganism.Which is da devil!! or evil as many claim.What the hell does a rabbit and eggs have to do witha tortured martyr that was nailed to 4 planks of wood and left to rot in the sun till he died? Why the hell would any sane person celebrate that?
Is the caller really saying being an advocate of reason, thinking, and logic are equivalent to being an advocate of faith, acting without a basis in reality, and myth?
The Hitch test: Name a moral act that a non-believer would not do. Now name an immoral act that a believer would do because they are religious. The first task is extremely hard, the second all too easy. That should tell you something.
@YodaLN Vamo' Argentina carajo ! I go to public university in Córdoba, the second oldest one in América. It is the most conservative province in the country and still you don't see the level of ignorance of the callers
From what I gather, Satanism isn't a religion! Satanists don't actually believe in Satan, but use the idea of Satan being the ultimate rebel!
But even as a Christian, I enjoy watching these guys, they are informative and make you think! If you don't think, you die mentally, or become MORmON!!!
@tattoodfreeek not sure about that "ultimate rebel" idea. I got the impression that Satanism was a confused mix of prometheus worship (the friend to man, bringer of light in greek mythology). I think the "rebel" idea is just something that "skirt chasers" use as a pick up line with borderline hippy chicks, since it reeks of cliche.
@MistahBlonde2 I've watched a fair few videos by a guy on here satanicinternational, and he explains a lot about satanism, he said about how they view satan as the ultimate example of living life for the individual, but they don't "worship" him in the way that Christians worship! If that makes sense??
@tattoodfreeek OK, What has Satan got to do with Atheism ?
Setting aside for a moment the fact that the guys at the church of Satan are just a bunch of hedonistic bozo's with no real supernatural beliefs, Atheists by definition reject the existence of Satan in the same way that they reject his antithesis in the Judeo Christian tradition along with the Norse, Greek, Roman, Egyptian and Hindu (amongst other) gods.
@baldieman64 It was mentioned in the video, if you listen. The caller mentions about Satanism, then the guy says that it's still a religion, a super natural belief. Around about 3.30 to 4.30
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions tons of Earth soil)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
@Mogley52 Since Atheism is just the non-belief in gods there's nothing to refute since there are no "claims" being made by atheism. Get over yourself.
@xephyr1000 When you talk about atheism there are generally two terms in focus, weak and strong atheism.
"Weak atheism" is when someone have lack of faith in a deity or a religion whereas believing that gods do not (or cannot) exist is known as "strong atheism."
So a strong atheist is in need of an explanation, science to why or how you can disprove a religious dogma. There are "claims" being made by atheists all the time, we can use science because science isn´t a belief it is facts.
Atheism is just not having belief in a god. That's all it is. There is a subset of atheists (most often called strong atheists) that do assert that there is no god. But that is not the whole of atheism.
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless.
what is with the emphasis on christians and what jesus does. If any of you read the bible or even just the 4 books most christians follow, you would know jesus wasn't even a christian himself, the religion came out in response to his life. Those who follow it are as fallible as those who follow any other religion or atheists.
Mankind is due for moving to a higher consciousness plane. The same way the suffering of gazelles killed by lions make the species stronger, the suffering of mankind will help us move to the next consciousness level. A greater good comes for the species. The next level is the rejection of greed, materialism and selfishness. Our current capitalist system need to collapse in order to achieve this. If you're not ready spiritually, and doesn't move up, you'll suffer. This is happening now, seek God.
Everyone has a choice to believe,,,Its called except or reject...Unless someone put a gun to your head...Get real Matt.. Ya it in the amendment, freedom of religion,so what...And so is Islam,,,look what they did in 911 in the name of God. Stop slamming Christians.Pick on the Roman Catholics or JWs and of course the Islamic faith as well as other cults that slaughter there flock in the name of God.
This is completely irrelevant, but I sneezed and then looked back up at the screen and Jennifer scratched her face which kinda looked like she was wiping her face off.
Scientist have found the proof that WE ALL originated from Africa. 99.9% of the world scientist are now religion-less because of facts & proof. So don't expect intelligent people to just follow blindly "so called holly" books that have been man made.Why keep fighting?When are people going to wake up?Let's not destroy our world because of mere stupidity & blind faith.Did god really create all these religions so that we can fight among each other?Only 1 religion exist, "The Religion of LOVE."
yes he did not write quran and no body can write one page and God challange mankind and jinn to produce evenone chapterurl quran is reveild to mohammad by Gabriel
Say to them, "Obey God and His Messenger. If you turn away, the Messenger and the people will each be responsible for their own obligations. If you follow the Messenger, you will have the right guidance. The responsibility of the Messenger is only to preach." (54)
by the way mohammad is illetrat person he doent how to wright his name but the quran is the most great book ever reveld
In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful (1) All praise belongs to God, Lord of the Universe, (2) the Beneficent, the Merciful (3) and Master of the Day of Judgment (4) (Lord), You alone We do worship and from You alone we do seek assistance (5) (Lord), guide us to the right path, (6) the path of those to whom You have granted blessings, those who are neither subject to Your anger nor have gone astray. (7)
@eriknielsen68lmaooo honoring my parents is a bad thing ? not stealing is a bad thing ? not murdering is a bad thing ? having compassion for one anoher is a bad thing ?treating others as i would like to be treated is a bad thing ? i like being controlled sorry
@prime440 All those things are good, you just dont get it because you are controlled. I dont need an invisible being to tell me I will go to hell if I dont do certain things. If you need to be controlled, then congratulations, you accomplished that, and you are controlled.
@prime440 You said "i like being controlled sorry"
How sad...you are truly a 'slave' to your religion. You can be convicted of thought crimes. Just thinking about committing a sin is the same as actually committing the sin. It must be extraordinarily difficult to avoid thinking about so many things. But don't worry, it doesn't matter whether you lust after the woman next door or you actually rape and murder fifty children. Sins are insignificant. All you have to do is ask forgiveness.
@CynicalSkeptic1 your a sick person i never promoted any such sickness there is place called hell for people who inflick such horrible crimes and have no remorse for them , thats called evil. a christian who turns away from evil and follows jesus christ and hiswisdom is not anything like those people you claim are controlled by religion. you stereotype christians.
@prime440 Also, you only indicated the 'good' things about your religious beliefs. How about stoning your unruly children to death?...or murdering anyone who works on the sabbath?...or making sure that you don't beat your SLAVES to death? (at least not immediately, it is perfectly alright if they die in a day or two after the beating). How about condoning murder, rape, incest, infanticide, human sacrifice, etc., etc., etc.
@CynicalSkeptic1 since when did jesus christ stone anyone ? as a matter of fact he saved whore from being stoned to death. how many people did jesus christ kill? the answer is no one.your twist what you hear from people who hate cristians into what you seem to think as trueth.look if you dont believe in jesus christ then just say you dont believe stop lying about what christianity is really about.
@prime440 I can't even believe that I have clarify this....YOU WORSHIP THE GOD OF THE BIBLE....and he is the one who committed the atrocities. So, it is truly immaterial what Jesus may or may not have done. They are all parts of the same 'Tri-God' assembly anyway...Yahweh, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost.
There is no way to rationalize all of the malevolent and heinous acts that your god committed. Period.
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@devildog3406 The "golden rule" existed before the Jesus character was created. And he wasn't all sunshine, you know.
Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
He can't take idots to task for doing things to their children, but he feels good to phone in and try to take them to task for having a TV show. He should look up the definition of hypocracy.
about the hill billy fuck saying religion dosent harm aneybody...hmm...osama bin laden and all of the taliban(muslim), that guy in norway(cristian) theres been so meney other deaths from religion but i cant think right now and look at how fucked up the world is no god would let that happen (thats why the devil was thought of,to be an aswer to that satement) i would love for there to be a god and an aftarlife but unfortunately...there isent...you just rot in the ground.
OK, this program is a great program. But cutting the guy off when he tries to speak is not nice, even is he is talking nonsense. Hope they can improve on that.
@devildog3406 Christians claim to have superior morals, so incarceration rates should be lower, not equal to their proportion of general population. Atheists, on the other hand, are underrepresented in prisons.
The caller dodged the question, is it or isn't it right for someone to pray instead of seeking medical treatment for their child? He didn't want to say prayer was ineffective but also didn't want to say it was. So what the hell is it if it's not effective? Useless... Get that through your head without deluding yourselves Christians!!
i'm from the "third world", i can be consider an atheist, and no, we don't have THAT many cases of people negleting medical care for their children because of faith.
actually i dont think he means the religious guy isn't "messed up in other areas" He's saying it's the religion specifically that's causing them to refuse medical treatment. If he didn't have that religion he wouldn't refuse medical treatment. And I feel that's totally accurate. You have entire communities of religious people who refuse medical treatment which is passed on generation to generation. What they have in common is their religion and their refusal of medical treatment.
Here in Brazil, a "third world"country, every teenager above 14 years is surely well known to science explanations. That have never been in court for decide.
Religion brings a good level of mental health to many people and I've actively seen it in my family. In saying that, I'll be the first to challenge the catholic church, the quran and churches who came to my school opposing the useof contraception.
So this guy is saying we started a war with al qaida because they dont believe what we believe?
They started a war with US because we dont believe what THEY do (and because we help israel). fuckin dumb ass, if your gonna slander religion at least get your history straight.
If you don't understand why people challenge the tenets and status of religion, then you haven't understood the position of atheists, and the destructive force of religion.
@BiblePreacher889 You really should check out the statistics for anything you don't like, such as murder, rape, theft, abortion, divorce, etc. If you do, you'll see that, in the U.S., christians top the charts.
@YY4Me133 well wherever you got them from they must be false because the people who commit those crimes arent christian but they go to prison and they LATER become a christian
@Takkun5656 God damn it, I was going to put a really witty comment about how I was going to mushroom slap the caller so hard he'd think I was his step-dad but now you've ruined it. You've invaded the penis territory, I can't use it. Satisfied?
@Takkun5656 your stereotyping way of thinking is evidence of your ignorance, if you dont believe in god then say you dont and stop trying to shove your BS on youtube
Religions worst side effect is obedience. Obedience shouldnt be a quality people admire. Obedience is simply giving up your free will to someone else. And if you give that up, your giving up your morality too, because what if the two clash? What if to be obedient to someone you had to do evil things? Which takes preference? What you KNOW is right? Or what youve been TOLD is right?
I am a Christian and i find the gospel of thomas very interesting. I think there is a lot of both internal and external evidence as to why it was left out of the Bible (i.e. it's not real). First, there is not setting in the entire account, it is only sayings. The 4 Biblical gospels can tell where things happened, how they happened, and give much much more detail. The gospel of thomas is only quatations. Secondly, the disciples question Jesus about circumcision. If this happened
in 1st century Israel, there is no way anyone would have questioned Jesus about circumcision. Everyone did it there and no one would have dared questioned that topic in Israel. The debate about whether circumcision was necessary never came until some time after Christianity came to be established. Hence, the gospel of thomas came about at a later time, and should not be regarded as original or historical. Lastly, there are simply way way fewer copies of it than the biblical gospels.
But if you still want to believe it is legitmate, just keep in mind that the account of the gospel of thomas ends with Jesus basically saying women are inferior, not in role or function, but in value, and that they would HAVE to become men in order to go to heaven. If that's who you think Jesus was, then I think you have a lot more evidence to find to back that up.
@7strawman7 opinions change. like when science discovers something new, we change what we were saying, rather than pathetically clinging to some old book written by some mystics. How about this, we really dont have any authorative truth outside of ourselves. It's the strong independent person that realizes this, and the little weak cowards like you that have to make something up, because they are afraid and need to be controlled.
@EmbraceDorkhood I I assume something without any proof? what the fuck do you think christianity is? A bunch of crap that has absolutely no evidence. only one little bool. I could write a book with a bunch of insane stuff in it, doesnt make it true. If youll believe anything you see in print, then im going to send you a book all about how you should send me a thousand dollars so I can battle a demon or something.
God gave us free will, part of free will is common sense! God isn't against common sense or anything. Common sense would be for them to take their kid to get help. Remember, God helps those that help themselves!
@RealExpression Remember, God annihilates those who dare to disagree with him, and -if you believe the fairy tale of Noah- those who simply existed on the face of the Earth!
Your ignorance and lack of 'free will' in questioning the mythology you've been spoon fed is just sad. You've been fed a legend the Israelites were told by the people of YHW after THEY were defeated by Egypt and after THEY wandered the desert, NOT the Israelites who later re-told the story as their own.
@karlt10 I don't really understand what that has to do with anything I said but okay... And he never annihilated people who disagreed with him. Lol he annihilated sinful evil people.
@RealExpression So, a 5 month old baby who can't speak a word - can only associate a few words with events that then soon take place - has no knowledge, thoughts, or ideas to any form of god, leader, religion, etc., is 'sinful'? I Know it's part of what you tell yourself to make the outlandish, illogical stories of the Bible work, but try using common sense instead of just bowing-down to what you're told.
Also, Noah and his family were the ONLY righteous people? Guess 'god' screwed-up.
Respond to this video.. And yes, I know that Noah's flood never happened. Geology has answered that question many times over. Many theologians will agree that Noah is nothing more than an adaption of the tale of Gilgamesh, whose story in oldest form has been dated to 2,000 BCE, long before the story of Noah started being assembled. All evidence, and writers' marks, points to Noah's tale being written by 2-3 individuals from 850 to 540 BCE.
@karlt10 Except this "tale" of Noah came BEFORE Gilgamesh. Nice try saying it was before, but it wasn't. We have carbon-dated Bible that have been dated before Gilgamesh that mention Noah's flood.
@RealExpression Excuse me? There is NO account of Noah that appears anywhere near the age of Gilgamesh. Not a one. The earliest hard version of Gilgamesh has been dated to 2,000 BCE. The tale of Noah does not appear until about 850 BCE....
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Pleeeease tell me you truly believe there were people who lived for 'hundreds of years' at a time when people were lucky to hit 40 years old.
Also they lived so long because the DNA wasn't as mutated so their was less disease. And things like the air and water weren't polluted as much as in later times.
@RealExpression Holy Crap! You really buy that shit I meet ignorant Christians all the time who don't know their own region, but ones who buy the full line of BS is rare. Wow.
BTW- learn what you preach: Christians/Creationists/Apologists don't claim that all people lived for centuries; they say only chosen people did.
Why do I suspect you don't know where the idea for Yahweh came from?
@karlt10 Lol you aren't making much sense to me. What does people living for centuries have to do with anything? You need to understand basics before you come here and argue.
You make idiotic claim your god only punishes sinful people. I note babies who have done nothing sinful, least of all by a god they did not chose. You avoid a response.
You ignorantly claim the fable of Noah is older than the fable of Gilgamesh. I point you to (creationist) information showing your error. You avoid a response.
You state people lived so long due to DNA, etc. I point out ignorance that not all people were claimed to live that long. You avoid...
Respond to this video... And come on, tell me what you know of the origin of Yahweh, as well as your thoughts on why the gospel of Thomas was left out, as well as lets hear your thoughts on his claims that ANY person could become a 'child of God', same as Jesus.....
You failed to acknowledge I was correct on Gilgamesh being centuries older than Noah.
Not surprising though. Hell. evidence points to the four gospels all being written in the 2nd century AFTER the people who supposedly wrote them.
I'd love to know what you think of the gospel of Thomas; the ONLY one which appears to have been written at the time of 'Jesus', yet was left out of the Bible. Could it be due to his writing 'any' person could become a 'child of God', like Jesus?
@7strawman7 Atheism damned nations? Prove it or shut up. Oh yeah, lust and coveting is the same as rape. Strange your book should ignore such an important insult to women... Oh that's right, according to your book we should sell women and tell them to shut up. And again, the evolution theory doesn't say we evolved from chance. You're clearly in misapprehension.
@7strawman7 LOL, you have got to be fucking kidding me man! I do not worship Dillahunty, nor I consider him a god in any way (in fact, if I did, I'd feel I might be insulting him). The god you believe in has several problems when it comes to determining his existence. ''Un-embodied eternal mind''??? You do realize that makes no sense at all, since the only mind we know of is the one produced by the brain.In other words, no physical BRAIN, no MIND.
@EmbraceDorkhood wow, you are so messed up, I dont know where to begin. first off, why would god create something he cant stand in the first place? Im glad that everything you believe is just a bunch of crazy bullshit, because I couldnt stand some of that shit myself. Little babies going to hell. please. If god created hell, and controls all, he controlled when that baby died, thus sent it to hell with his rule system. your god is fucking evil.
@7strawman7 As I said, atheism means lacking in belief of gods. The rest of your description comes from your prejudice and ignorance.
Morality matters, but not because a book says so, but because we can all get together and peacefully agree that, for instance, rape is a bad thing. Something your holy book missed, by the way.
Cribs don't evolve by chance, they are constructed by humans. And the evolution theory doesn't say we evolved by chance.
You should definitely NOT run around shaking children and telling them that there is no Santa Claus, or do the same to adults! Even all the grown men and women that want to have "In Santa Claus We Trust" on US currency, force kids to pledge an allegiance to "one nation under Santa Claus", try to replace The Theory of Evolution with Santa Claus and his little helpers, and try to speak to Santa Claus telepathically to seek guidance on real life issues.
DeterministicEvil 14 hours ago
The rule of biblegod is to have complete faith in him, and no faith in man. When a believer says 'it's the exception not the rule' to believers relying on prayer and not medical treatments, (1) they expose how little faith most believers actually have, (2) they go directly against what their own beliefs demand.
TheHigherVoltage 1 week ago
It is not the fact that religions are preaching a world view which is being objected to but the content of the world view - surely this is an easy distinction to see. by this guy's logic voicing any opinion against any other opinion would be hypocrisy.
mahmoudyzadeh 2 weeks ago
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People fight for potato chips in front of the take away , does that mean we have to go and ban the potatoes? We have to ban the person who is fighting and not the chips , sorry atheists your idea of religion is wrong !
People will always have trouble wether religion or not, religion doesn't cause problems but ignorance does , people's ignorance does !
MrCobra811 2 weeks ago
It is a political thing. The only people who are trying to legislate their beliefs on other people are the religious politicians who think that morality can be forced upon others. Your normal every day Christian is not like that and doesn't support it. Sure, you have your occasional ignoramus but only the confused and ignorant are doing it. So, since we know that, why not start a TV show that speaks against religious politicians and not against Christianity as a whole? Thanks.
loudcymbals 3 weeks ago
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Bourtini 2 weeks ago
@loudcymbals You're certain about the "normal everyday Christian" has no interest in imposing their beliefs, moral, "scientific", ect? Change comes from the bottom, the US suggests "normal everyday Christian" do want to impose their beliefs. Some moral issues aren't necessarily dependent on religion, but people should consider what they truly feel is moral and maybe society can benefit from that. Despite the intensity of such beliefs in theists, there is no reason one can't hope for even the...
Bourtini 2 weeks ago
@Bourtini (cont.) most hopeless to guide themselves in a better stance of rationally considering morals, science, ect.
Secondly, some Christians can appreciate being skeptical about their beliefs, it isn't the objective of this show to rid Christianity (you'd understand if you'd watched). Most importantly, this applies to individuals that can consider being misguided in their moral and scientific beliefs indoctrinated by their religious organizations.
Bourtini 2 weeks ago
@Bourtini Furthermore: Consider Matt, a once Evangelical Christian that desired true beliefs. I would type the rest, but it is in the video above and was quite clear (promoting being skeptic and rational). The more a society cares about its beliefs, Matt expects to see a better society, and I would agree.
Bourtini 2 weeks ago
I had no idea SRV's Pipeline was the intro song at one point.
HolyEggRollys 1 month ago
belief in Santa Claus doesnt ruin our judicial system and instill laws that dont make sense that the rest of us non-believers have to follow as a rule of law. And the bible hasnt aided this human race in science or medical breakthroughs. if we still prayed to a god to heal diseases or illnesses then we'd still be living in the dark ages where science and free thought were stagnated because the bible was taught as the answers to the universe and all your questions, its not that easy
TheStoicPoet 1 month ago
atheists shove their beliefs down the throats of others far more than Christians! He fails to realize that his value in science and reason is no more or less subjective than a Christians value in faith.
MrCaptainSr79 1 month ago
@MrCaptainSr79 But science is demonstrable. We have to do the best with what we have within the context of the world we live in, and since reason is our means of survival, gathering evidence and making predictions based on that evidence makes sense. Following a collection of books, that everyone interprets differently isn't even on the same level. Most atheists don't shove their beleifs down people's throats, since they want people to think for themselves.
VanessaTexasGal 1 month ago
@VanessaTexasGal Note that I said "his value" in science and reason. I never said that science and reason is subjective- it's not. What I'm saying is that his personal value in it is subjective, meaning that his idea that it is good and religion is bad is subject to his opinion. The outcomes created by religion and science are completely different, so it's really just a matter of which outcome the individual interprets as being better.
MrCaptainSr79 1 month ago
@MrCaptainSr79 Atheism is the deafult position. You can't shove atheism down a kids throat, because they probably don't believe in any god, untill you tell them that there is a god. You are raised to be a christian, muslim, hindu etc...
VanessaTexasGal 1 month ago
@VanessaTexasGal This is based on the premise that because atheism is our genetic, we technically can't be changed to atheism. I'm sure you believe on logic, well look up the genetic fallacy of logic and then explain to me how this does not fall into that category. Just because we start atheist doesn't mean that we stay atheist, or that someone can't try to shove their atheist values down the throats of someone who has been lead to believe otherwise.
MrCaptainSr79 1 month ago
The hope they get aint the issue....its when they try to kill people over it.
SciBishop 1 month ago
Some People from different part of the society are real Hypocrites... Every people should know that...
oldinfant23 1 month ago
I understand that the host relies on evidence for his determination of reality, but he discredits "personal" evidence experienced by the individual alone.
I guess if you don't have a lone experience (doesn't need to be faith based) you wouldn't have faith in something others claim o be true, however, not experiencing something doesn't disqualify its possibility.
algol291 1 month ago
@algol291 Of course it does not disqualify the possibility. But he diminishes personal evidence as it should never be enough to convince anyone. Not even yourself, for example I see a dinosaur now walked outside of my bedroom window. I would be omg and I was getting my camera but then it was gone. I go around all the house in the neighborhood and ask if they saw it too?
No of them saw it. So then my personal experience might be faulty.
NathanWubs 1 month ago
the caller's voice is hilarious, he should do voice acting for south park
ravenouscolonelhart 1 month ago
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Naturalism & evolution is the atheists "religion", therefore evolutionary science has in fact legislated the atheists religious views by not allowing any other hypothesis but a naturalistic one
This naturalistic dogma has been established by Poppers illogical falsification method, God can not be proven false, therefore science has affirmed naturalism at all costs from what they do not know & not from what they know. This method defies all rational thought, yet it is liberal logic at it finest
toobsucker 1 month ago
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toobsucker 1 month ago
Tim needs to lay off Granddad's cough medicine.
RamoneHoffman 1 month ago
When we debate Christians we usually say (when they get offended) that it isnt about them personally its about the topic.
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But if we step back and look it really is about them.... the problem isnt about what they believe its about how they came to believing it. And most of the time its a major flaw in the persons thought patterns, that directly effects everything about them.
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It really is about them. Its about there insecurities, there wants and desires and the rejection of who they are.
TamaNewb 2 months ago
Santa existed,the tradition of presents at festivals+ feasts+marriage existed before christianity.Christians are specificly prohibited from having trees or celebrating christmas(book of jerimiah 3-4), easter and other pagan festivals.Jesus is a false idol he even says specificly to worship GOD by praying not him as he is only the son here to point you in the right direction , the cross isnt christian in fact the christian symbol is a fish.Anymore truths christians ignore about thier faith?
Thelondonbadger 2 months ago
@Thelondonbadger This is all good stuff but its only useful for the atheist laugh. It useless for Christians to hear.
TamaNewb 2 months ago
@TamaNewb Its all true tho, every festival in christianity is paganism.Which is da devil!! or evil as many claim.What the hell does a rabbit and eggs have to do witha tortured martyr that was nailed to 4 planks of wood and left to rot in the sun till he died? Why the hell would any sane person celebrate that?
Thelondonbadger 2 months ago
"You must be hypocritical because you're in favor of something, and are against people who are in favor of something."
/sigh.
JustAnotherHumanist 3 months ago
Is the caller really saying being an advocate of reason, thinking, and logic are equivalent to being an advocate of faith, acting without a basis in reality, and myth?
The Hitch test: Name a moral act that a non-believer would not do. Now name an immoral act that a believer would do because they are religious. The first task is extremely hard, the second all too easy. That should tell you something.
drfoxcourt 3 months ago
@YodaLN Vamo' Argentina carajo ! I go to public university in Córdoba, the second oldest one in América. It is the most conservative province in the country and still you don't see the level of ignorance of the callers
ninioritalin88 3 months ago
From what I gather, Satanism isn't a religion! Satanists don't actually believe in Satan, but use the idea of Satan being the ultimate rebel!
But even as a Christian, I enjoy watching these guys, they are informative and make you think! If you don't think, you die mentally, or become MORmON!!!
tattoodfreeek 4 months ago
@tattoodfreeek not sure about that "ultimate rebel" idea. I got the impression that Satanism was a confused mix of prometheus worship (the friend to man, bringer of light in greek mythology). I think the "rebel" idea is just something that "skirt chasers" use as a pick up line with borderline hippy chicks, since it reeks of cliche.
MistahBlonde2 3 months ago
@MistahBlonde2 I've watched a fair few videos by a guy on here satanicinternational, and he explains a lot about satanism, he said about how they view satan as the ultimate example of living life for the individual, but they don't "worship" him in the way that Christians worship! If that makes sense??
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago 4
@tattoodfreeek OK, What has Satan got to do with Atheism ?
Setting aside for a moment the fact that the guys at the church of Satan are just a bunch of hedonistic bozo's with no real supernatural beliefs, Atheists by definition reject the existence of Satan in the same way that they reject his antithesis in the Judeo Christian tradition along with the Norse, Greek, Roman, Egyptian and Hindu (amongst other) gods.
baldieman64 2 months ago
@baldieman64 It was mentioned in the video, if you listen. The caller mentions about Satanism, then the guy says that it's still a religion, a super natural belief. Around about 3.30 to 4.30
tattoodfreeek 2 months ago
@tattoodfreeek ethical egoism.
mebe84 2 weeks ago
@mebe84 ???? what you talking about??
tattoodfreeek 2 weeks ago
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
Mogley52 4 months ago
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SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
Mogley52 4 months ago
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
Mogley52 4 months ago
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THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions tons of Earth soil)
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
@Mogley52 Since Atheism is just the non-belief in gods there's nothing to refute since there are no "claims" being made by atheism. Get over yourself.
xephyr1000 4 months ago 10
@xephyr1000 When you talk about atheism there are generally two terms in focus, weak and strong atheism.
"Weak atheism" is when someone have lack of faith in a deity or a religion whereas believing that gods do not (or cannot) exist is known as "strong atheism."
So a strong atheist is in need of an explanation, science to why or how you can disprove a religious dogma. There are "claims" being made by atheists all the time, we can use science because science isn´t a belief it is facts.
AllNamesWereOccupied 1 month ago
@xephyr1000 of course there are claims being made by atheists. they CLAIM theres no such thing as a god dont they?
MrSupasexi 2 weeks ago
@MrSupasexi no
xephyr1000 2 weeks ago
@MrSupasexi No.
Atheism is just not having belief in a god. That's all it is. There is a subset of atheists (most often called strong atheists) that do assert that there is no god. But that is not the whole of atheism.
MrFungus420 2 weeks ago
@MrFungus420 That's called "anti-theism".
LerkurlianTamer 1 week ago
@LerkurlianTamer No.
Anti-theism is being against belief in a god...believing that theism itself is a bad thing that should be countered.
You can believe that there is no god but not hold that position.
MrFungus420 1 week ago
@MrFungus420 Sorry, I guess I was confused as to what you meant.
LerkurlianTamer 1 week ago
@MrSupasexi Nop, you are wrong. I simply dont believe in your claim that there is a god.
Sweddude 2 weeks ago
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THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
Mogley52 4 months ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 4 months ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless.
Mogley52 4 months ago
what is with the emphasis on christians and what jesus does. If any of you read the bible or even just the 4 books most christians follow, you would know jesus wasn't even a christian himself, the religion came out in response to his life. Those who follow it are as fallible as those who follow any other religion or atheists.
johnbrown757 4 months ago
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Mankind is due for moving to a higher consciousness plane. The same way the suffering of gazelles killed by lions make the species stronger, the suffering of mankind will help us move to the next consciousness level. A greater good comes for the species. The next level is the rejection of greed, materialism and selfishness. Our current capitalist system need to collapse in order to achieve this. If you're not ready spiritually, and doesn't move up, you'll suffer. This is happening now, seek God.
dejesusluisx 4 months ago
common sense my friend!
flatop59 4 months ago
atheist are hyprocrites.
craventref 4 months ago
Everyone has a choice to believe,,,Its called except or reject...Unless someone put a gun to your head...Get real Matt.. Ya it in the amendment, freedom of religion,so what...And so is Islam,,,look what they did in 911 in the name of God. Stop slamming Christians.Pick on the Roman Catholics or JWs and of course the Islamic faith as well as other cults that slaughter there flock in the name of God.
flatop59 4 months ago
@flatop59 Jesus Christ disco biscuits, man, learn proper grammar, syntax, and terms before you spam this rubbish all over these video comments.
RamoneHoffman 4 months ago
This is completely irrelevant, but I sneezed and then looked back up at the screen and Jennifer scratched her face which kinda looked like she was wiping her face off.
reishvedaur 4 months ago
Scientist have found the proof that WE ALL originated from Africa. 99.9% of the world scientist are now religion-less because of facts & proof. So don't expect intelligent people to just follow blindly "so called holly" books that have been man made.Why keep fighting?When are people going to wake up?Let's not destroy our world because of mere stupidity & blind faith.Did god really create all these religions so that we can fight among each other?Only 1 religion exist, "The Religion of LOVE."
susiejet 5 months ago
@susiejet Well said.
skyrock100 5 months ago
yes he did not write quran and no body can write one page and God challange mankind and jinn to produce evenone chapterurl quran is reveild to mohammad by Gabriel
mazzroa 5 months ago
Say to them, "Obey God and His Messenger. If you turn away, the Messenger and the people will each be responsible for their own obligations. If you follow the Messenger, you will have the right guidance. The responsibility of the Messenger is only to preach." (54)
by the way mohammad is illetrat person he doent how to wright his name but the quran is the most great book ever reveld
mazzroa 5 months ago
@mazzroa That may indicate that Mohammed didn't write it.
backwoodsninja 5 months ago
In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful (1) All praise belongs to God, Lord of the Universe, (2) the Beneficent, the Merciful (3) and Master of the Day of Judgment (4) (Lord), You alone We do worship and from You alone we do seek assistance (5) (Lord), guide us to the right path, (6) the path of those to whom You have granted blessings, those who are neither subject to Your anger nor have gone astray. (7)
read quran the judge
mazzroa 5 months ago
@mazzroa There is no god. You are reading the words of men that want to control you, and it worked.
eriknielsen68 5 months ago
@eriknielsen68lmaooo honoring my parents is a bad thing ? not stealing is a bad thing ? not murdering is a bad thing ? having compassion for one anoher is a bad thing ?treating others as i would like to be treated is a bad thing ? i like being controlled sorry
prime440 4 months ago
@prime440 All those things are good, you just dont get it because you are controlled. I dont need an invisible being to tell me I will go to hell if I dont do certain things. If you need to be controlled, then congratulations, you accomplished that, and you are controlled.
eriknielsen68 4 months ago
@prime440 You said "i like being controlled sorry"
How sad...you are truly a 'slave' to your religion. You can be convicted of thought crimes. Just thinking about committing a sin is the same as actually committing the sin. It must be extraordinarily difficult to avoid thinking about so many things. But don't worry, it doesn't matter whether you lust after the woman next door or you actually rape and murder fifty children. Sins are insignificant. All you have to do is ask forgiveness.
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@CynicalSkeptic1 your a sick person i never promoted any such sickness there is place called hell for people who inflick such horrible crimes and have no remorse for them , thats called evil. a christian who turns away from evil and follows jesus christ and hiswisdom is not anything like those people you claim are controlled by religion. you stereotype christians.
prime440 4 months ago
@prime440 Also, you only indicated the 'good' things about your religious beliefs. How about stoning your unruly children to death?...or murdering anyone who works on the sabbath?...or making sure that you don't beat your SLAVES to death? (at least not immediately, it is perfectly alright if they die in a day or two after the beating). How about condoning murder, rape, incest, infanticide, human sacrifice, etc., etc., etc.
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@CynicalSkeptic1 since when did jesus christ stone anyone ? as a matter of fact he saved whore from being stoned to death. how many people did jesus christ kill? the answer is no one.your twist what you hear from people who hate cristians into what you seem to think as trueth.look if you dont believe in jesus christ then just say you dont believe stop lying about what christianity is really about.
prime440 4 months ago
@prime440 read your bible from front to back. All that twisted shit is in there. You god is not loving or almighty.
eriknielsen68 4 months ago
@prime440 Technically speaking, Jesus is God, so Jesus killed everyone God has killed. Direct or indirect.
TheIncognitusMe 4 months ago
@prime440 I can't even believe that I have clarify this....YOU WORSHIP THE GOD OF THE BIBLE....and he is the one who committed the atrocities. So, it is truly immaterial what Jesus may or may not have done. They are all parts of the same 'Tri-God' assembly anyway...Yahweh, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost.
There is no way to rationalize all of the malevolent and heinous acts that your god committed. Period.
CynicalSkeptic1 4 months ago 2
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allah is fake your an idiot
fourlokoJoker 5 months ago
the reason athiests warn people about religion is because religion is dangerous!
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
not treating their medical issues already is abuse, you cant look up statistics on a single item to compare
mrsquishyboots 5 months ago
@devildog3406 The "golden rule" existed before the Jesus character was created. And he wasn't all sunshine, you know.
Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
YY4Me133 5 months ago
To simplify Matt's comments.........Keep your religion to yourself!!
talover403 5 months ago
you cant question christians. if they could reason, they wouldnt be christians
Jbob9954 5 months ago 18
He can't take idots to task for doing things to their children, but he feels good to phone in and try to take them to task for having a TV show. He should look up the definition of hypocracy.
milesalpha1 5 months ago
about the hill billy fuck saying religion dosent harm aneybody...hmm...osama bin laden and all of the taliban(muslim), that guy in norway(cristian) theres been so meney other deaths from religion but i cant think right now and look at how fucked up the world is no god would let that happen (thats why the devil was thought of,to be an aswer to that satement) i would love for there to be a god and an aftarlife but unfortunately...there isent...you just rot in the ground.
TheJimcat 5 months ago
OK, this program is a great program. But cutting the guy off when he tries to speak is not nice, even is he is talking nonsense. Hope they can improve on that.
MultiWingnut 5 months ago
@devildog3406 Christians claim to have superior morals, so incarceration rates should be lower, not equal to their proportion of general population. Atheists, on the other hand, are underrepresented in prisons.
YY4Me133 5 months ago
The caller dodged the question, is it or isn't it right for someone to pray instead of seeking medical treatment for their child? He didn't want to say prayer was ineffective but also didn't want to say it was. So what the hell is it if it's not effective? Useless... Get that through your head without deluding yourselves Christians!!
MannyXj1 5 months ago
i'm from the "third world", i can be consider an atheist, and no, we don't have THAT many cases of people negleting medical care for their children because of faith.
remdiel 6 months ago
The caller got owned.
robair9911 6 months ago
actually i dont think he means the religious guy isn't "messed up in other areas" He's saying it's the religion specifically that's causing them to refuse medical treatment. If he didn't have that religion he wouldn't refuse medical treatment. And I feel that's totally accurate. You have entire communities of religious people who refuse medical treatment which is passed on generation to generation. What they have in common is their religion and their refusal of medical treatment.
userasdf 6 months ago
"Third world believes" my ass!
Here in Brazil, a "third world"country, every teenager above 14 years is surely well known to science explanations. That have never been in court for decide.
bragdale 6 months ago
Religion brings a good level of mental health to many people and I've actively seen it in my family. In saying that, I'll be the first to challenge the catholic church, the quran and churches who came to my school opposing the useof contraception.
deNIALL92 6 months ago
So this guy is saying we started a war with al qaida because they dont believe what we believe?
They started a war with US because we dont believe what THEY do (and because we help israel). fuckin dumb ass, if your gonna slander religion at least get your history straight.
Vamp6661 6 months ago
@Vamp6661 And this is an argument in support of religion how? Your own argument implies that religion breeds intolerance for those who are different.
PhobicOne 6 months ago
@PhobicOne what are you talking about? that has nothing to do with what i just posted.
Vamp6661 6 months ago
@Vamp6661 "fuckin dumb ass, if your gonna slander religion at least get your history straight."
PhobicOne 6 months ago
@PhobicOne that statement has nothing to do with me supporting religion. that statement is evidence of me attacking the guy on the show with insults.
and im not intolerant i just try to help
Vamp6661 6 months ago
If you don't understand why people challenge the tenets and status of religion, then you haven't understood the position of atheists, and the destructive force of religion.
Pomme843 6 months ago
Atheists are hypocrites. Just like everyone else.
mrhnm 6 months ago
calls a idiot.
lpslostagain 6 months ago
@BiblePreacher889 Links won't post here, so I'm leaving out the beginning, and added spaces:
psychologytoday. com/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201103/misinformation-and-facts-about-secularism-and-religion
adherents. com/misc/adh_prison. html
abortionno. org/Resources/fastfacts. html
YY4Me133 6 months ago
@BiblePreacher889 You really should check out the statistics for anything you don't like, such as murder, rape, theft, abortion, divorce, etc. If you do, you'll see that, in the U.S., christians top the charts.
YY4Me133 6 months ago 42
@YY4Me133 your stats are flawed...
Vamp6661 6 months ago
@Vamp6661 They're not "my" stats.
YY4Me133 5 months ago
@YY4Me133 well wherever you got them from they must be false because the people who commit those crimes arent christian but they go to prison and they LATER become a christian
Vamp6661 5 months ago
@Vamp6661 Citation, please.
YY4Me133 5 months ago
@Vamp6661 Actually they took that into account, the statistics are based on their beliefs as they enter prison.
milesalpha1 5 months ago
@YY4Me133 Teen pregnancy too!
BatliciousBatgirl 6 months ago
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brongarago 6 months ago
@YY4Me133 In the US...
Thatmakessense356 5 months ago
religion is like a penis. you don't shove it down your child's throat.
Takkun5656 6 months ago 89
@Takkun5656 And you don't whip it out and shove it in the faces of people in the street.
UberNoodleX 6 months ago
@Takkun5656 The only problem with that analogy is that a penis isn't make believe.
brongarago 6 months ago
@Takkun5656 That would make sense to Catholic preachers! D:
WakingLife55 6 months ago
@Takkun5656 religion is like a catholic priests penis, they are constantly trying to shove it down childrens thoats
3gmatt1 5 months ago
@Takkun5656 religion is like a penis. that's fucking classic not to mention a good moral code
MrMilagroqq 5 months ago
@Takkun5656 I like "dont whip it out in public" better.
Jeffersonwazright 5 months ago
@Takkun5656 oh, i thought you meant it in the way that if it is not down and flacid, it´s fucking you.
Psity 5 months ago
@Takkun5656 God damn it, I was going to put a really witty comment about how I was going to mushroom slap the caller so hard he'd think I was his step-dad but now you've ruined it. You've invaded the penis territory, I can't use it. Satisfied?
LeoRikimaru 5 months ago
@Takkun5656 your stereotyping way of thinking is evidence of your ignorance, if you dont believe in god then say you dont and stop trying to shove your BS on youtube
prime440 4 months ago
Respond to this video... christian morals are immoral ? what an ignorant fool,
prime440 4 months ago
@Takkun5656 You beeing far to generous, a penis is usefull...
Ludd3332 4 months ago
@Takkun5656 Or indeed any throat for that matter.
Lleanlleawrg 4 months ago
did the retard on the fone confuse atheism with satan worship? haha dumbass
xierotron 7 months ago
I love the way when he can't answer a question and then he shuts people down.
NorthNorth2009 7 months ago
Religions worst side effect is obedience. Obedience shouldnt be a quality people admire. Obedience is simply giving up your free will to someone else. And if you give that up, your giving up your morality too, because what if the two clash? What if to be obedient to someone you had to do evil things? Which takes preference? What you KNOW is right? Or what youve been TOLD is right?
MrDoobious 7 months ago
@karlt10
I am a Christian and i find the gospel of thomas very interesting. I think there is a lot of both internal and external evidence as to why it was left out of the Bible (i.e. it's not real). First, there is not setting in the entire account, it is only sayings. The 4 Biblical gospels can tell where things happened, how they happened, and give much much more detail. The gospel of thomas is only quatations. Secondly, the disciples question Jesus about circumcision. If this happened
thapack45 7 months ago
in 1st century Israel, there is no way anyone would have questioned Jesus about circumcision. Everyone did it there and no one would have dared questioned that topic in Israel. The debate about whether circumcision was necessary never came until some time after Christianity came to be established. Hence, the gospel of thomas came about at a later time, and should not be regarded as original or historical. Lastly, there are simply way way fewer copies of it than the biblical gospels.
thapack45 7 months ago
But if you still want to believe it is legitmate, just keep in mind that the account of the gospel of thomas ends with Jesus basically saying women are inferior, not in role or function, but in value, and that they would HAVE to become men in order to go to heaven. If that's who you think Jesus was, then I think you have a lot more evidence to find to back that up.
thapack45 7 months ago
@EmbraceDorkhood fundie clown! jizzm hits you in the face forever. mark ass trick, trick ass mark, diarhhea dump in your ear.
PageofLegend 7 months ago
@7strawman7 opinions change. like when science discovers something new, we change what we were saying, rather than pathetically clinging to some old book written by some mystics. How about this, we really dont have any authorative truth outside of ourselves. It's the strong independent person that realizes this, and the little weak cowards like you that have to make something up, because they are afraid and need to be controlled.
PageofLegend 7 months ago
@EmbraceDorkhood I I assume something without any proof? what the fuck do you think christianity is? A bunch of crap that has absolutely no evidence. only one little bool. I could write a book with a bunch of insane stuff in it, doesnt make it true. If youll believe anything you see in print, then im going to send you a book all about how you should send me a thousand dollars so I can battle a demon or something.
PageofLegend 7 months ago
Caller has to be ignorant about religion interfering in gov't and law making.
spareaxe 7 months ago
im getting bored of you guys owning Christines
wowkaves 7 months ago
God gave us free will, part of free will is common sense! God isn't against common sense or anything. Common sense would be for them to take their kid to get help. Remember, God helps those that help themselves!
RealExpression 7 months ago
@RealExpression Remember, God annihilates those who dare to disagree with him, and -if you believe the fairy tale of Noah- those who simply existed on the face of the Earth!
Your ignorance and lack of 'free will' in questioning the mythology you've been spoon fed is just sad. You've been fed a legend the Israelites were told by the people of YHW after THEY were defeated by Egypt and after THEY wandered the desert, NOT the Israelites who later re-told the story as their own.
karlt10 7 months ago
@karlt10 I don't really understand what that has to do with anything I said but okay... And he never annihilated people who disagreed with him. Lol he annihilated sinful evil people.
RealExpression 7 months ago
@RealExpression So, a 5 month old baby who can't speak a word - can only associate a few words with events that then soon take place - has no knowledge, thoughts, or ideas to any form of god, leader, religion, etc., is 'sinful'? I Know it's part of what you tell yourself to make the outlandish, illogical stories of the Bible work, but try using common sense instead of just bowing-down to what you're told.
Also, Noah and his family were the ONLY righteous people? Guess 'god' screwed-up.
karlt10 7 months ago
Respond to this video.. And yes, I know that Noah's flood never happened. Geology has answered that question many times over. Many theologians will agree that Noah is nothing more than an adaption of the tale of Gilgamesh, whose story in oldest form has been dated to 2,000 BCE, long before the story of Noah started being assembled. All evidence, and writers' marks, points to Noah's tale being written by 2-3 individuals from 850 to 540 BCE.
karlt10 7 months ago
@karlt10 Except this "tale" of Noah came BEFORE Gilgamesh. Nice try saying it was before, but it wasn't. We have carbon-dated Bible that have been dated before Gilgamesh that mention Noah's flood.
RealExpression 7 months ago
@RealExpression Excuse me? There is NO account of Noah that appears anywhere near the age of Gilgamesh. Not a one. The earliest hard version of Gilgamesh has been dated to 2,000 BCE. The tale of Noah does not appear until about 850 BCE....
you'll have to take the '-' out
religioustolerance.o-r-g/noah_com.htm
icr.o-r-g/article/noah-flood-gilgamesh/
Pleeeease tell me you truly believe there were people who lived for 'hundreds of years' at a time when people were lucky to hit 40 years old.
karlt10 7 months ago
@karlt10 creation_com/noahs-flood-and-the-gilgamesh-epic
Also they lived so long because the DNA wasn't as mutated so their was less disease. And things like the air and water weren't polluted as much as in later times.
RealExpression 7 months ago
@RealExpression Holy Crap! You really buy that shit I meet ignorant Christians all the time who don't know their own region, but ones who buy the full line of BS is rare. Wow.
BTW- learn what you preach: Christians/Creationists/Apologists don't claim that all people lived for centuries; they say only chosen people did.
Why do I suspect you don't know where the idea for Yahweh came from?
karlt10 7 months ago
@karlt10 Lol you aren't making much sense to me. What does people living for centuries have to do with anything? You need to understand basics before you come here and argue.
RealExpression 7 months ago
@RealExpression Come on now...
You make idiotic claim your god only punishes sinful people. I note babies who have done nothing sinful, least of all by a god they did not chose. You avoid a response.
You ignorantly claim the fable of Noah is older than the fable of Gilgamesh. I point you to (creationist) information showing your error. You avoid a response.
You state people lived so long due to DNA, etc. I point out ignorance that not all people were claimed to live that long. You avoid...
karlt10 7 months ago
Respond to this video... And come on, tell me what you know of the origin of Yahweh, as well as your thoughts on why the gospel of Thomas was left out, as well as lets hear your thoughts on his claims that ANY person could become a 'child of God', same as Jesus.....
karlt10 7 months ago
You failed to acknowledge I was correct on Gilgamesh being centuries older than Noah.
Not surprising though. Hell. evidence points to the four gospels all being written in the 2nd century AFTER the people who supposedly wrote them.
I'd love to know what you think of the gospel of Thomas; the ONLY one which appears to have been written at the time of 'Jesus', yet was left out of the Bible. Could it be due to his writing 'any' person could become a 'child of God', like Jesus?
karlt10 7 months ago
this is an interesting show. the only problem i have with it is that they keep hanging up on people.
JAYFORJAY 7 months ago
damn matt dillahunty is smart
4pl3x 7 months ago
@7strawman7 Atheism damned nations? Prove it or shut up. Oh yeah, lust and coveting is the same as rape. Strange your book should ignore such an important insult to women... Oh that's right, according to your book we should sell women and tell them to shut up. And again, the evolution theory doesn't say we evolved from chance. You're clearly in misapprehension.
Murdulo 7 months ago
@7strawman7 LOL, you have got to be fucking kidding me man! I do not worship Dillahunty, nor I consider him a god in any way (in fact, if I did, I'd feel I might be insulting him). The god you believe in has several problems when it comes to determining his existence. ''Un-embodied eternal mind''??? You do realize that makes no sense at all, since the only mind we know of is the one produced by the brain.In other words, no physical BRAIN, no MIND.
mewboy5 7 months ago
@EmbraceDorkhood wow, you are so messed up, I dont know where to begin. first off, why would god create something he cant stand in the first place? Im glad that everything you believe is just a bunch of crazy bullshit, because I couldnt stand some of that shit myself. Little babies going to hell. please. If god created hell, and controls all, he controlled when that baby died, thus sent it to hell with his rule system. your god is fucking evil.
PageofLegend 7 months ago
Only Hyprocrite here is you you fucking Bald headed Babboon. Athsists Rule..
lennonfan123 7 months ago
@7strawman7 As I said, atheism means lacking in belief of gods. The rest of your description comes from your prejudice and ignorance.
Morality matters, but not because a book says so, but because we can all get together and peacefully agree that, for instance, rape is a bad thing. Something your holy book missed, by the way.
Cribs don't evolve by chance, they are constructed by humans. And the evolution theory doesn't say we evolved by chance.
Your ignorance is vast on many levels.
Murdulo 7 months ago