If it weren't for colonialism the African people would be at the mercy of nature. More so than they are today. Instead of people killing people, Africans would be at the mercy of drought, famine, and pestilence. Although these causes of death are ever present in Africa, they indeed been minimized.
Although infant mortality rates, life expectancy, and literacy rates are unacceptable in Africa, they would be much much lower if weren't for European colonization.
@InfiniteUniverse88 if there was no colonization, there would still be wild fauna and flora and trees and natural resources and even just fucking grass where my grandparents grew up and built my family's village in what used to be sahel grasslands. the famines brought about by drought are also at fault of unstable governments brought about as a result of colonization. western civilization, in my opinion, has done more harm than help in every place it has touched. bless all uncontacted tribes.
I don't understand. Europe was also exploited and conquered by the Romans like the Africans were by the Europeans. And the Arabs also conquered and exploited Europeans. Everybody exploited each other. Why must Europe take the most blame only for being the most recent exploiter? It's silly.
@GreenBottleCap because the atrocities committed by white europeans in africa were far worse? Massacre and torture of natives, destruction of culture, exploitation of resources, forced relocation and land seizure just to satisfy the bloodlust of imperialist white men. there is actually no difference between 20th century dictators like Pol pot and Hitler with 19th century european imperialists (like that evil dutch faggot leopald II)
@pakheng Let's see.. Europe was full of tribes as well. They believed in different religions, had a different culture, etc. The Romans 'latinized' ahuge part of Europe (doesn't matter if they're Euro). Then we also had the Muslim armies. Ottomans had the Balkans while the Moors had Iberia (Spain and Portugal). Both of them were later stopped from progressing by Catholic armies. Part of Europe was invaded by Khan (Which I think was the most evil fuck of all) continued in second comment
@pakheng You also had things like constant pirates from Arabia taking slaves from the coast of Ireland. Now.. In my opinion, Europe would of never have become powerful without Christianity to replace Paganism, and the elimination of tribes. The Romans built roads, libraries, etc. Same thing with the Euros in Africa (funnily enough Genghis Khan didn't even do that shit). The Moors also changed culture in Iberia. Continued in third comment.
@pakheng I come from Portugal. If you go to Portugal, you will see many, many buildings that look middle-eastern. Why? Moorish conquest. The Spanish and Portuguese language got heavily influenced by Arabic.
I see that you live in Hong Kong. I think you're pretty idiotic to think that colonization was bad for Hong Kong. Without British intervention, it wouldn't be what it is today. Perhaps you are just a child feeling rebellious. The most evil conqueror was an Asian, deal with it.
@GreenBottleCap What are you trying to say? what has the mongolian chinggis Khan got to do with me? Yea his golden hoard fought all the way to hungary. Yet his exploitation in Europe was NOTHING compared to those assholes like leopald and other european monarchs in Africa,
Anyway, I answered your question. european atrocities in Africa was much worse than any other foreign invaders, you guys destroyed their WHOLE culture (as you are portugese don't even get me started on the americas).
@pakheng Lol? Genghis Khan was a cruel piece of shit. He made women dance in front of him before he raped them. He killed a large fraction of the world population at the time. Nothing compares to what he did.
Europe's culture was destroyed as well. Again, Europe was full of pagan tribes like Africa. If anything colonization gave Africa a backbone.
I suggest you read up on our colonization strategies.
@GreenBottleCap I don't get what you are trying to say here. I didn't actually expect a reply from you in the first place. You pose a question on (in your opinion) a perceived bias in european imperialism in Africa. You wanted an answer and I gave it to you. I wasn't expecting an argument to arise here, I just gave you an answer to a perceived (in your part) conundrum of colonialism.
@pakheng I'm just trying to say that Europe's conquest wasn't the worst of all great conquests. Just because it was the most recent great conquest doesn't make it any worse than the other great conquests that took place in history.
@GreenBottleCap Indeed, all historical conquests possess some element of exploitation, cultural and population genocide. But history is notably fickle and selective, ( I majored in history after all) and the historical past will always give way to the recent one. You are correct in essence of course, today most (if one is not African) will not remember much about this particular episode of imperialism, most will use Adolf Hitler and the Nazis as a contemporary example. Great powers will exploit.
@GreenBottleCap The defining difference between the previous conquests you mention and Europeans involvement in Africa is the legacy, which is the continued exploitation by big business and perpetual civil war caused by Europe's policy of divide and conquer. NOTHING good came from Europe's greed.
As long as God who created man in different forms lives ,he will grant potency to our cry for judgement on the white race. Human history has never seen such disingenuous moral monsters like those who come from the Caucasian West.
does america or its corporaations want to dominate the world?
does america robs its own citizens?
the war in vietnam and the bombing of cambodia was enough for of america,
obama was on the j lenna show tonight and not 1 word from him of the crisis on the streets on america , or maybe there is no crisis,,but he makes good rhetoric to get elected again,,there are so many nice decent american that do not want superpower america,.
South Africa could indeed take off economically, like china, if they had just one more missing ingredient.....billions of Chinese!!! The MOST VALUABLE natural resource of China is an national average IQ over102!!! The GREATEST IMPEDIMENT to economic growth in SA is a national average IQ under 76!!! Let's be honest people...economically, BLACK = LACK....and it always will for this most primitive, impulsive and violent of all races.
@DarwinzFriend Are you serious? Human history has never seen such disingenuous moral monsters like those who come from the Caucasian West. The West, by and large, defend their violence claiming that it was done for the good of the rest. The colonial violence was to civilize the natives. The truth is pain, truth is hard to look at on a full spectrum; what is unfortunately true is that white people are very viciously cunning deceitful, duplicitous, arrogant, ignorant. fuck you
@ajahamza I can't claim to understand your shame and constant frustration at belonging to the lowest, most primitive, most despised and most outnumbered of the races of man. When I graduated from college, I had 4 friends of mixed black heritage who were at the TOP of their class, and had better grades than me; yet,I got hired LONG before them, then watched as the laziest of my white friends got jobs before them. The few good blacks suffer because of the reputation of the 90% bad blacks.
@DarwinzFriend lol.... Whiteness is a dysfunction that cripples not only blacks and other people of color, but also devoids whites from the virtues of truth, knowledge, and true altruism for the sake of living in a euphroia created by them for them. The sickness of whiteness causes whites to live in extreme denial, severe paranoia, and addicted to happiness and superiority even at the cost of other people’s humanity
@DarwinzFriend lol... blacks are the most despised? Have you look at the world lately? Place a map of the world on the wall. Then blindfold yourself and as in pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey, stick a pin on the map. You can do this all day long and wherever that pin lands, WE can document through world history and actual facts, that the white race has been there and murdered, raped and robbed the indigenous people (black, Brown, Red and Yellow).
@DarwinzFriend WE can also document that the white race found these civilizations and cultures superior to what they came from in savage Europe. We agree here, Blacks were never as talented as Whites as far as radical raw hatred - used as a 'tool' to take over the world. you are just one of a whole generation of whites bigots who peddled notions of black inferiority. Sometimes I begin to wonder, is superiority being keen to look down on others and see them as nothing more than low lives?
@TheSpeckofdust you idiot the majority of India is shit. We would never bow down to you. WHy don't you go and kill some of your daughters because of ur hatred of them. Go make me some slurpies Punja.
@GozzyWozzy Undoubtedly. But America never colonized any african lands. America has too much respect for human dignity to do such, unlike British and French scum
@shotsky94 America is colonizing Africa right NOW. it is not on the media but they are. Look at Libya, Gaddaffi is trying to help Africa. Look what they did to Angola. They killed many good leaders, there are raping the lands of Africa. It is neocolonialism. They need the resources in order to feed their economy of America. America is probably doing worse to Africa than the French and British. They support terrible leaders in Africa using the IMF and World Bank.
@GozzyWozzy America is liberating Libyan people. America is a great country. America doesnt kill good leaders. America takes out the bad guys, and spreads democracy. America is great. Atm, America is also helping to stabilize the wartorn Central African Region. I love America. You should too!
@shotsky94 Who told you these lies? You need to go deep into the stories don't believe the propaganda they tell you on CNN. It is bullshit. Gadaffi was trying to help Africa. He funded a satellite in Africa that made Europe lose $500 million a year. He also wanted to set up the african monetary fund with$70 billion with no interest. He wants to heelp Africa but America doesn't want that Eisenhower sent a hit on Patrice Lumumba a great leader. US supports bad leaders like Idi Amin
@GozzyWozzy Nah. He was an evil man. They even found a horrific graveyard in which he killed so many people. US didn't support Idi Amin. US only supports good people. America may make mistakes sometimes. But it will always defend freedom and democracy from tyranny and oppression
@shotsky94 Please men!!stop saying lies!!please,US ALWAYS HAVE KILLED NUMEROUS GOOD LEADERS ARROUND THE EARTH!! that's what the government of your country has done all the time!! the killed Lumumba in Congo, they killed Gaitan in Colombia,Allende in Chile,and countless people who defended the soveraignty of their countrys from the claws of the horrible consumism in which lies the excessive North American way of life!! and please stop saying AMERICA WHEN YOU'RE REFERING TO US, SOUTH ALSO EXISTS!!
The europeans colonized them and got them to kill each other off while he steal the gold from under there feet! I Pray that one day we will see who the true enemy is and stop killing our own! Its sad when u think about how everybody who is Non african over there raping the land and our attention is on trying be equal to and accepted by the thief
Anywhere europeans went to the past to exploit resources, those places have become shitholes, anywhere europeans put a fuckin feet to become "owners of the land" have become lands of hate and desperation :S THANKS EUROPE FOR "CIVILIZED" THE WORLD IN SUCH HORRIBLE WAY.. filling us all with racial hate arround the earth
Anywhere europeans went to the past to exploit resources, those places have become shitholes, anywhere europeans put a fuckin feet to become "owners of the land" have become lands of hate and desperation :S THANKS EUROPE FOR "CIVILIZED" THE WORLD IN SUCH HORRIBLE WAY.. filling us all with racial hate arround the earth
No offense, but those places were mostly shitholes before Europeans arrived. Did you ever hear of genocide or starvation or mass death while the Europeans were there? They brought Africa medicine, technology, knowledge, religion, food, different plants and countless other great things. And immediately after the Europeans left, they reverted back to barbarism. Your just a typical ungrateful and ignorant moron, Africa benefited tremendously from Europe.
@ImperialTexas Yes While europeans were in Africa anihilated a large number of tribal groups, but there are two very sad cases, those cases were the mass killing of Herero and Namba people, aproximately, 100.000 Herero and 10.000 Namba were anihilated by germans, it was the first documented genocide in twentieth century and people died, mainly, because of STARVATION. And that it's just a case, the also killed numerous people in Congo, Guinea, everywhere...
I`m not any ungratefull moron, because they don't left anything in Africa. They came to Africa, took the knowledge of native people about plants, and made their medicines, they took the resources of african soil and made their technology, they whiped out the knowledge and religion of africans and made them hate their selves, they STARVED the Africans in order to rule over the lands and countless horrible things. And like europeans used to rule with iron hand they left an horrible authority
I'm glad your liberal and socialist brainwashing is complete. They came to Africa in the 19th century already far more advanced than the natives, they didn't steal any knowledge. And even if they did, well you should still be thankful that they were the ones with the brainpower to create the medicine and technology from your resources while you obviously didn't. Let's face it, there were good and bad things about colonialism but you only see the bad.
@ImperialTexas There are good and bad things about EVERYTHING. There are even good things about Hitler and Stalin as well. The issue is do the good things outweigh the bad things? When you impose your way of life on another people, when you literally rob that land of money, resources, etc. etc. it sets the country back for a long time. Almost every former colony still struggles today with basic things, there is a reason for that. They are still suffering from the after effects of colonialism.
@ImperialTexas It is white cunts like that what i think that Whiteness is a dysfunction that cripples not only blacks and other people of color, but also devoids whites from the virtues of truth, knowledge, and true altruism for the sake of living in a euphroia created by them for them. The sickness of whiteness causes whites to live in extreme denial, severe paranoia, and addicted to happiness and superiority even at the cost of other people’s humanity
and administrative lack that lead to the selfish and gentry advantage taking the old BARBARISM OF COLONIZATORS to rule the newborn "free"... So, who are the morons? the ignorants? Europeans have and fathomless and eternal debt with Africa!!
You have no idea do you? Yes there were atrocities committed and many bad things happened, but so did several good things. And Europe was barbaric? Africa was still living in the veritable stone ages in the 19th century with tribal warfare and killings, Europe elevated Africa's status if anything.
@ImperialTexas Until lions tell their tale, the story of the hunt will always glorify the hunter. If anything, your response just goes to prove my point that the "racial superiority" that infected the Europeans to the point of murdering millions for their own personal gain was not only justified but that it’s still seen as being morally correct, The Hubris of white people never cease to amaze me
@MrvelvetviruS Stop blaming the endless problems of Africa on Europe. Europe is a better continent, where we have law and order, stable governments, and make medical and technological progress. Africa is a backwards continent, which made no use of its abundant natural resources, so you have no right to say the Europeans were wrong in taking them. We send you aid and your diseased governments seize it for themselves and let their people starve. If Africa was more like Europe, it would be better.
@Atrollin1 the aid never reaches the people. All the countries get is debt and the money goes to investment projects which employs multinationals who take the resources for themselves. The west is funded by the south.
@AtrollinThe problem is not that black folks can’t get along or rule ourselves, or that we lack morals, or any of the subliminal messages white cunt like you would have us believe. The problem is that Africa is, and has been for centuries, the lifeline of Europe and the U.S.
@Atrollin they stole and divided up our land amongst themselves, committed the greatest genocide the world has ever known through the slave trade, robbed Africa of its greatest resource through the theft of human bodies and then saw to the continued theft of all our oil, diamonds, gold, coltan, and other natural resources through colonialism, and now neo-colonialism.
@Atrollin But there is an ideology that justifies this parasitic grip that Europe and the U.S. have on Africa. Europeans shove this crap down our throats and call it our history. .
@ajahamza Not all of it. We have to celebrate "black history month" which supposedly defeats the often twisted accounts, but all it manages to achieve is a generalization of every black person alive.
Also, it doesn't give mention to the ancient white people who were taken as slaves by non-whites, but because they're a smaller proportion, they get overlooked.
@Atrollin1 You want blacks to take responsiblity for the fact that whites were taken as slaves by non whites? I cant remember in history of black people taking whites as slaves. But off course if is the Eurocentric version of history, you will accept as non twisted. All blacks alive are the victims of the tyranny of white inhumanity, so what your point? There is a reason why its called black history and not white history. You want to know about white slave, go read white history.
@MrvelvetviruS Yes, thanks Europe, for stopping what's going on in Africa now.
Zimbabwe, now white people are gone, proudly boasts political oppresion, inhumane torture of its people, hyperinflation, poverty and starvation and a generally backwards society. Come to Europe and it's a different picture... actually, you probably will be coming for the better life we have over here when your own country becomes unbearable.
@Abdikarimelmi What do you mean with Angola? Some 26000 Portuguese just went there. The Chinese own Angola now. And Namibia? Europeans didn't leave Namibia.
The Europeans rule the world, and have for nearly half a millennium now. We have done horrible things and committed atrocities sure, but so has every other people. Europe is the reason were living in the world we are now, without our technology, knowledge, secularism, and inventions we'd still be living in the middle ages. You should be grateful for that instead of slandering the reason for your existence...
2:29 "By exploiting linguistic, ethnic, and cultural differences between the peoples of the north and south [of Uganda], Britain's divide and rule policies created a tension between them that helped to maintain British rule."
Does anyone know the details/specifics of how these differences were exploited? By what means? How exactly? Any sources (preferably books) which go into detail about this exploitation of difference?
I have a few books on African history, Shillington's History of Africa states that "during the colonial period the British had treated the 'kingdom' of Buganda as though it were a distinct seperate unit with in the Protectorate of Uganda. At the same time the British use of 'indirect rule' had emphasised the continuing role of the kabaka (king) in Baganda political life. Kabaka Mutesa II was determined to retain Buganda's special status in any future independant Ugandan state. ---
@Erectoralporicy Sorry. I've just noticed that your reply is much longer (and in several parts) than that which appeared in my You Tube inbox. Thanks!
--- Under the terms of the independence constitution of 1961 Buganda was allowed to excercise its own internal self-government, seperate from central government and under the direct control of the kabaka. The government which took Uganda to independence in October 1962 was a political alliance between Milton Obobote's northern-based Uganda People's Congress and the Buganda royalist party, the Kabaka Yekka Movement. Obote became prime minister and the following year ----
----- Kabaka Mutesa was installed as ceremonial president. Support for Obote's party strengthened after independence and he was able to dispense with his political alliance with the Buganda royalists. In April 1966 Obote declared a new constitution in which he himself became executive President. The special status of Buganda ended violently.." (Shillington, 390)
Essentially what happened with colonialism was the English use of indirect rule was also used as a tactic to give some ---
--- groups special privileges, such as the Ganda people, while giving the rest of an area's population average privileges. Giving the Ganda people the right to retain a kebaka was an exploitation of cultural and ethnic differences amongst peoples in Uganda. Upon Uganda's independence rather than, dividing these to groups into seperate countries, they tied the two factions together in a cooperative government - with one faction being embittered towards the other having been favoured.
By doing this, there is a great possibility of civil war and dispute within a newly founded countries. Once this is established it becomes easy to maintain influence without liability, and very little commitment. This achieved by pandering to one of the groups in dispute, in exchange for lucrative transactions within markets, resources, and creating arrangements within a Military-industrial complex.
@Erectoralporicy Thanks for the reply, but your explanation was general in tone. I'm interested in obtaining specific and detailed information as to the socio-political and perhaps socio-economic mechanics of how the British exploited Uganda's ethnic differences; a book title would be preferred.
By the way, this film in its entirety is absolutely horrific. I couldn't finish watching it; it was making me sick.
@josephinechristelle what does that even fucking mean? Africans were running around naked when europeans entered the interior. Parts of africa didnt have the wheel. Africa was brough thousands of years forward by europe and had the africans not had the hubris to believe they could govern a modern economy and revolted against colonialism theyd today face far fewer problems and even be a compeitive region. But keep thinking blacks are good whites bad the blacks are the only ones hurt in the end.
@Seaworldexists Running around naked? I see you're very knowledgeable on the subject... Even so? Who asked them to come there destroying the cultures, customs, languages, self-esteem etc. Who goes abroad to massacre, disrespect, dehumanize, steal from people and expect them to thank you in return? I'd love for you to go back in time and witness every atrocity against INNOCENT children, men, women and look at those people in the eyes telling them: Oh well at least now you'll have the wheel.
@josephinechristelle It is the whtie mans burden to civilize the africans. Their culture was weak and ineffective. They were basically in the state of nature thousands of years behind the europeans. It is time for the great powers to once again take over the administration of africa. Most of Africas rulers are far less humane than the colonial governors.
@Seaworldexists What you're saying reflects your ignorance and racist mind that I can't help but laugh (are you for real? 21st century, really?). Have you ever heard of something called Human rights and a nation's sovereignty?
@josephinechristelle The only thing that rules the world is power. Human rights are a myth. Prejudices are mankinds most reliable source of judgement as they draw from the well of human history and not just the fickle fashion of the day. You are made ignorant by your belief that all are equal when they clearly are not. Even worse you are willing to subject the people of africa to plauge, genocide, and famine so they can have 'national soverignty' (AKA some barbaric dictator).
@Seaworldexists Running around naked? I see you're very knowledgeable on the subject... Even so? Who asked them to come there destroying the cultures, customs, languages, self-esteem etc. Who goes abroad to massacre, disrespect, dehumanize, steal from people and expect them to thank you in return? I'd love for you to go back in time and witness every atrocity against INNOCENT children, men, women and look at those people in the eyes telling them: Oh well at least now you'll have the wheel.
@blazay590 could the reason be in the immense level of corruption in the african states? Another would be economic miss-management since independence, for example in zimbabwe. And probably the most likely reason is the lack of education. Look europeans did massively horrible things in africa, a clear example of that is the Congo. But, not everything was bad. I would recommend doing some reading/studying the colonial period, and comparing it with what is happening now in africa with the chinese.
Europe bollocksed the world by colonizing the entire planet, then failing everyone who relied on them for order and stability. How did they fail? European power collapsed in the fraticidal wars of WW1 and WW2. The departure of colonial power left chaos worldwide, that many people are still trying to dig out of. The United States has spent the last 50 years naively and ignorantly trying to quell and police post-colonial conflicts, even though it should really be europeans' responsibility.
I am a retired Businessman and I have to say this video is garbage, England has given money and aid to africa for 200 years, we tried to help them yet them still remain backward. They are in the mess due to their own lazy attitudes and culture
The fault lies on both sides. Japan is developed, but if it came to England and made Englishmen work, behave and live in an Japanese manner, how many Englishmen would manage to do so? Africa was backward during its first contacts with European powers, but it never was given the opportunity to develop by itself, according to its own rules. Japan was, and see where it is today. Africa wasn't, and it still is failing to find itself in a reality created by foreigners. Simple like that
your own thinking is backward, you think money can free people? What has your money done to develop africa? absolutely nothing? You even insult their culture. Well i dont expect you to understand their culture because basically you have no culture of your own. There is a saying, you can't blame a fool, which you prove to be. Doing something many times and expecting a different result is stupidity, and that's exactly what you are doing with your money. Leave Africa alone you moron.
@xcalibur4l ahahah sure, we were great before, and so after. what they did, in 400.000 years? just cry for help
they're far more brutal and racist than we do, anyone as been in africa knows it. ppl just able to make 10 children, worthless animals is what they really are, period, open your eyes in uk niggs just able to riots for rob some shit.
@Jimmyretired WRONG ! I should be thanking my ancestors ! It was because of my ancestors and their sacrifice at the hands of a merciless people who still have blood on their hands when they raped young children in cold blood, and chopped off their hands as was done in the Congo by the racist belgians, It is all of this and more that gives the present generation of white people the ability to walk around with their chest out as if they have some economic inginuity.
@MrSpritzmeister white people did nothing it was better before colonization look at it now full of war do ue know why they hate europeans because u colonized them they will hate white people till the end of time because of ur fucking greed for land now look what you did wants all of africa espesially zimbabwe get nukes they will head for europe and we are all doomed 2012 the arabs and africans hate europeans but pretend to like them afghanistan at war with the palestine/israel they hate the us
@DivinelyMochaDipped I am sure there had been diseases in Africa before, its not like europeans invented diseases so all of the humankind could suffer collectively together. Dont be an idiot.
and if they did bring medicine, they probably overpriced the shit for their own selfish gain. u really want to sit over there on the other side of ur computer and act like these people owe euros any kind of gratitude? yeah right. they should love europeans about as much as native americans in the united states should. i'm not gonna categorize ALL your ppl, but y are those of u who are so arrogant...so arrogant. just wondering.
@DivinelyMochaDipped who is ALL my people??? my first comment was mainly to see what happens if I say that there was a alot of things that europeans brought to africa, that were not bad. Obviously, alot of horrible things happened, I never contested that. The joke has been on my side the whole time.
Without colonialism Africa would look like a Mad Max film starring apes. Africa thrived under colonialism. Ethiopia & Liberia were the only nations never colonized & today they stand as the 2 most poorest & backward nations on Earth. Blacks r the most ungrateful lifeforms on the planet. The only talking species on Earth completely incapable of saying "thank you." They know they owe everything they have today to the White man, but they'd never admit it out loud cause they're stupid & primitive.
@NNNForum without africa helping europe whites would still be living in dark caves waiting for lightning to strike a tree for fire. You backward pale savages go around the world fucking everything up living in our once great nations because yours sucked couldnt even run your own bath water. Even bees did more the world then you backward pale apes. I would say thank you for letting me know how evil and fucked up you whites truley are I dont even know why i say thank you you shits arent even
If it weren't for our wars and the UN, we would still be rulling in Africa, and Africa wouldn't be so devasted and perhaps fully industrializated. But the United states needed to stick their nose in everything and ruin our empires. Europeans shall rule again in Africa !
You can see this now with the invasion adn subsequent occupation of Afghanistand adn Iraq. Certainly now in Libya and Eygpt etc. Same old internationslists committing the most horrific crimes thru-out modern history (2-300 yrs) without mercy or remorse. One has to ask who these ppl are? What makes them cold blooded psychopaths
And then you talk about colonialism while showing kids with arms chopped off. Who did that? Whites rarely chop off arms AFAIK. You want to make it about race? Be honest. You help nobody when you can't get the facts straight.
If you want to pretend that colonialism was pure greed & evil, wile its victims were pure innocents, you will throw away a lot of progress. Punish the true criminals but & acknowledge those who did good, in spite of their positions of power over others, many did do right by natives.
Grow up & cut the easy, reducing-everything-to-a lie that only sounds consistent with the same lies that have been told for decades. It ended with Hitler, & for him it was about race, but look who stopped him.
Of course for Noam Chomsky never even heard of Islamic imperialism, it's the white man that ruined the bliss of mankind. Sure. Britain brought rule of law, & in many cases the abuses were punished once the government found out.
The history of man is that our new technologies bring new problems. Shit happens & justice happens a bit later, some times it takes decades. Basically the end of WWII & war crimes trials were the end of a century of war, leaving only the remnants to play out.
@constructivereconcil I can't stand Chomsky for a number of reasons. Europe and Western Civilization is a modern scapegoat for the flaws of human nature. Pre-colonial African civilizations were also imperialistic, brutal and slave traders. They just ran into a more powerful force when Europeans came into the picture. The same goes for the rest of the world that European powers conquered.
@bxjam85 Just because it will happen doesn't mean you have to excuse it. This idea that that Europe is a scapegoat for things Europe is doing is ridiculous. America and Europe supported dictators,started wars, and worse off used the IMF and World Bank to screw many poor nations INCLUDING parts of America and Europe. And this isn't some radical liberal speaking, there is too much destruction being done.
@blueiguy1 I did not say that we should excuse imperialistic behavior. I am anti-imperialistic. I am not, however, anti-hegemonic in instances where my freedom from unprovoked aggression is threatened. America and Europe did support dictators but only because they were the lesser evils. For example, America supported the autocratic Shah of Iran to ward off the Islamic Republic that dominates now. America supported a dictatorial president in Cuba to ward off the communists, etc. etc.
@bxjam85 Very good point. Although you say its the lesser of two evils too me it would seem as "destroying the seed before it grows". In the case of Congo 5.7 million people have died as a result of Mabuto. All because he was a "Capitalist" but thats not what the country wanted. Why should we decided who is the leader of another country if it works for them. Communism is only bad to those who say its bad.For example China owns the world so why don't any Capitalist challenging that.
@blueiguy1 Because China isn't really communist anymore. China is now described by economists and political scientists as an authoritarian, state capitalist nation. They started accepting some capitalist policies in the 1970's due to economic stagnation. They needed to be able to compete with the West. Also, you're talking about the Cold War era, when the Soviet Union was assisting rebels in the overthrow of states. Personally, I'm happy that the U.S. fought that tyrannical disease.
Noam Chomsky; the epitome of the delusional hippie. Conflating everything that was wrong about European cultivation in the most destructive age of man due to the industrial revolution and Darwinism. Chomsky's opening remarks are so reduced to such conflation as to be nearly meaningless. It only stands to represent a gut-level anger from those who are encouraged to see themselves only as victims.
you should stop wasting your time helping africans, they are beyond repair its in their dna to screw their countries up, I lived in kenya for a while and they cannot even run a bath yet alone a country just forget them pal, they fucked up their own back yard now they want to live in the uk and america and rob of the whiteman
@Jimmyretired you clearly lost your mind.. in gods eyes what nationality is better than the other? None. If its in black peoples DNA to screw things up its in the whites to rape, euthanize, sterilize, abandon and ostracize all other nationalities that are not black!
@Jimmyretired you clearly lost your mind.. in gods eyes what nationality is better than the other? None. If its in black peoples DNA to screw things up its in the whites to rape, euthanize, sterilize, abandon and ostracize all other nationalities that are not black!
@droffensivePhd Dangerous for who? For the structural power that "domesticated" I presume. "let it be so" is what i say. Remember, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
The things is they were tribes in huts but if the white man left them alone what would they have become prob move on from huts to cities like the Aztecs and tribes in SOuth america then prob move on to Cities like Cario and alexandria like in egypt
and by that point u knows what might have became of them because by that point the white man swooped in burned down there cities and imposed there Way of doing things on things
History is the witness and it is verifiably the case that Western contacts with Africa have had most negative consequences. It began with the slave trade, then colonialism, neocolonialism, the Cold War and through all these Westerners stripped and exploited Africa for Africa’s human, mineral and sundry other resources.
@Seaworldexists they didnt have problems with millions of people starving to death every day and the environment was better off before colonisation. Economically smart for Europe? Pretty sure all those slaves did a fair bit of work for Europeans, Pretty much everywhere was better off before the white people got there
@openblue07 Okay its nowhere near a million per day but the fact that africa can support one billion people is the miracle of westernization. We can look at the bad parts of African society today but consider what it was like before europe a tribal society where 60% of men died violent deaths. Life was nasty brutish and short and Europe unfortunately was not in africa long enough.
@Seaworldexists the life you describe sounds a lot like the life of a slave/ Hahaha there simply was no starving people before Europe got there, the people there are not better off now. Europe took slaves and resources and gave disease and famine
@openblue07 No starving people beforeeuropeans came? How thats possible I dont know but even if youre right the population wouldve been signifiacntly lower than 100 million simply because tribal socieites cannot sustain a high population and therefore Europeanization has allowed 900 million more people to survive in africa. I see you havent ditched your computer yet so I take it you agree life without western technology would be hellish.
@Seaworldexists so you believe that the taking of slaves and raping of the land by Europeans was good for the people of Africa? haha life would be hellish? You think there are no people living hellish lives today?
Your ignorance is amusing, So raping a women is good because it might allow an extra person to live?
@openblue07 Taking of slaves isnt really colonialism Im referencing the scramble for africa but lets look at slavery. 1620-1808 millions are transferred to the americas. Slavery was bad but living in a tribal society was probably just as bad or not much better. But today the dsescendents of laves in america, and the caribbean are a hell of a lot better off than had they been left in africa.
@Seaworldexists You sir are crazy if you believe the slaves were better off than they had been as free men in their own land. The only people that are a hell of a lot better off than they were before slavery are the white people. The ridiculous size of the gap between rich and poor comes from the taking of resources and people like happened in Africa. You really believe colonisation was bad for europeans and good for africans, the euros just did it out of the kindness of their hearts?
@Seaworldexists i dont believe life in tribes was always hellish. It could be hard at some points im sure but certainly not as bad as being taken to another country and forced into slavery. The Maori tribes of New zealand, native tribes of papa new guinea, clans of ireland and scotland, aboriginal tribes of australia, civilisations of south america, all these tribal groups have recordings of life which was not always helish.
@openblue07 Its not the point tribal life was far worse than life in an industrialized society. Africa was about 6-10,000 years behind europe and we moved them in a period of 70 years forward within 100 years of us.
@Seaworldexists That really depends on what you mean by being behind. Certainly industry was worse for the land and sustainability of environments than tribal life. Have you read much about life for the poor in these society's that went to Africa? Why do you think so many people were keen to leave these places? I am going to take a guess that you have not been to Africa?
@openblue07 No africa again is about 100 years behind us I wouldnt want to live in 1911 if i could live in 2011. But in 1870 they were about 6000 years behind us so I think thats an improvement. As for the environment the more carbon weve put into the atmosphere the better life has been on earth.
@Seaworldexists I think you will find life has got a lot worse for a large amount of animals in africa that were completely fine before europeans arrived. The countries have been forced into european ways of doing things, this does not mean they have improved just changed.
@openblue07 But its clear youre one of those white hating anarchoprimitivists from your last comment so jsut throw out your computer pitch a tent in the middle of the woods and live off of raddishes and turnips its really awesome.
@Seaworldexists i dont hate anyone, why do you assume people have to hate a certain group? I certainly dont hate technology, im not a big fan of turnip dont mind radish. I just disagree with your belief that the Europeans helped out the africans by enslaving them and raping their land.
@openblue07 You said white people cause havoc wherever they go. Africa was given a structure for modern life they are more advance in everyway be it cultural, political or technologically than they were.
If it weren't for colonialism the African people would be at the mercy of nature. More so than they are today. Instead of people killing people, Africans would be at the mercy of drought, famine, and pestilence. Although these causes of death are ever present in Africa, they indeed been minimized.
Although infant mortality rates, life expectancy, and literacy rates are unacceptable in Africa, they would be much much lower if weren't for European colonization.
InfiniteUniverse88 3 weeks ago
@InfiniteUniverse88 if there was no colonization, there would still be wild fauna and flora and trees and natural resources and even just fucking grass where my grandparents grew up and built my family's village in what used to be sahel grasslands. the famines brought about by drought are also at fault of unstable governments brought about as a result of colonization. western civilization, in my opinion, has done more harm than help in every place it has touched. bless all uncontacted tribes.
TinyVessels00 4 hours ago
0:21 I'll finish the rest tomorrow.
QBisbest 4 weeks ago
Albions are the vampires of the world.
sireforhire 1 month ago
I don't understand. Europe was also exploited and conquered by the Romans like the Africans were by the Europeans. And the Arabs also conquered and exploited Europeans. Everybody exploited each other. Why must Europe take the most blame only for being the most recent exploiter? It's silly.
GreenBottleCap 1 month ago
@GreenBottleCap because the atrocities committed by white europeans in africa were far worse? Massacre and torture of natives, destruction of culture, exploitation of resources, forced relocation and land seizure just to satisfy the bloodlust of imperialist white men. there is actually no difference between 20th century dictators like Pol pot and Hitler with 19th century european imperialists (like that evil dutch faggot leopald II)
Btw, romans were europeans themselves.
pakheng 1 month ago
@pakheng Let's see.. Europe was full of tribes as well. They believed in different religions, had a different culture, etc. The Romans 'latinized' ahuge part of Europe (doesn't matter if they're Euro). Then we also had the Muslim armies. Ottomans had the Balkans while the Moors had Iberia (Spain and Portugal). Both of them were later stopped from progressing by Catholic armies. Part of Europe was invaded by Khan (Which I think was the most evil fuck of all) continued in second comment
GreenBottleCap 1 month ago
@pakheng You also had things like constant pirates from Arabia taking slaves from the coast of Ireland. Now.. In my opinion, Europe would of never have become powerful without Christianity to replace Paganism, and the elimination of tribes. The Romans built roads, libraries, etc. Same thing with the Euros in Africa (funnily enough Genghis Khan didn't even do that shit). The Moors also changed culture in Iberia. Continued in third comment.
GreenBottleCap 1 month ago
@pakheng I come from Portugal. If you go to Portugal, you will see many, many buildings that look middle-eastern. Why? Moorish conquest. The Spanish and Portuguese language got heavily influenced by Arabic.
I see that you live in Hong Kong. I think you're pretty idiotic to think that colonization was bad for Hong Kong. Without British intervention, it wouldn't be what it is today. Perhaps you are just a child feeling rebellious. The most evil conqueror was an Asian, deal with it.
The end.
GreenBottleCap 1 month ago
@GreenBottleCap What are you trying to say? what has the mongolian chinggis Khan got to do with me? Yea his golden hoard fought all the way to hungary. Yet his exploitation in Europe was NOTHING compared to those assholes like leopald and other european monarchs in Africa,
Anyway, I answered your question. european atrocities in Africa was much worse than any other foreign invaders, you guys destroyed their WHOLE culture (as you are portugese don't even get me started on the americas).
pakheng 1 month ago
@pakheng Lol? Genghis Khan was a cruel piece of shit. He made women dance in front of him before he raped them. He killed a large fraction of the world population at the time. Nothing compares to what he did.
Europe's culture was destroyed as well. Again, Europe was full of pagan tribes like Africa. If anything colonization gave Africa a backbone.
I suggest you read up on our colonization strategies.
GreenBottleCap 1 month ago
@GreenBottleCap I don't get what you are trying to say here. I didn't actually expect a reply from you in the first place. You pose a question on (in your opinion) a perceived bias in european imperialism in Africa. You wanted an answer and I gave it to you. I wasn't expecting an argument to arise here, I just gave you an answer to a perceived (in your part) conundrum of colonialism.
pakheng 1 month ago
@pakheng I'm just trying to say that Europe's conquest wasn't the worst of all great conquests. Just because it was the most recent great conquest doesn't make it any worse than the other great conquests that took place in history.
GreenBottleCap 1 month ago
@GreenBottleCap Indeed, all historical conquests possess some element of exploitation, cultural and population genocide. But history is notably fickle and selective, ( I majored in history after all) and the historical past will always give way to the recent one. You are correct in essence of course, today most (if one is not African) will not remember much about this particular episode of imperialism, most will use Adolf Hitler and the Nazis as a contemporary example. Great powers will exploit.
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pakheng 1 month ago
@GreenBottleCap The defining difference between the previous conquests you mention and Europeans involvement in Africa is the legacy, which is the continued exploitation by big business and perpetual civil war caused by Europe's policy of divide and conquer. NOTHING good came from Europe's greed.
TheSlySight 1 month ago 2
Modernization.
GreenBottleCap 1 month ago
ALL THEY TALK ABOUT IS THE JEWISH GENOCIDE NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THE MANY GENOCIDES OF AFRICA IN CONGO NAMIBIA ALL OVER ANGOLA
oworigt 1 month ago
Thanks for sharing
nellie2581 2 months ago
As long as God who created man in different forms lives ,he will grant potency to our cry for judgement on the white race. Human history has never seen such disingenuous moral monsters like those who come from the Caucasian West.
ajahamza 2 months ago in playlist Colonialism & Post-Colonialism
i guess if you fight against this then your labeled a bad guy communist dictator and killed
poor gaddafi
Myworthlessaccount 2 months ago
does america or its corporaations want to dominate the world?
does america robs its own citizens?
the war in vietnam and the bombing of cambodia was enough for of america,
obama was on the j lenna show tonight and not 1 word from him of the crisis on the streets on america , or maybe there is no crisis,,but he makes good rhetoric to get elected again,,there are so many nice decent american that do not want superpower america,.
suirvale 3 months ago
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South Africa could indeed take off economically, like china, if they had just one more missing ingredient.....billions of Chinese!!! The MOST VALUABLE natural resource of China is an national average IQ over102!!! The GREATEST IMPEDIMENT to economic growth in SA is a national average IQ under 76!!! Let's be honest people...economically, BLACK = LACK....and it always will for this most primitive, impulsive and violent of all races.
DarwinzFriend 3 months ago
@DarwinzFriend Are you serious? Human history has never seen such disingenuous moral monsters like those who come from the Caucasian West. The West, by and large, defend their violence claiming that it was done for the good of the rest. The colonial violence was to civilize the natives. The truth is pain, truth is hard to look at on a full spectrum; what is unfortunately true is that white people are very viciously cunning deceitful, duplicitous, arrogant, ignorant. fuck you
ajahamza 2 months ago
@ajahamza I can't claim to understand your shame and constant frustration at belonging to the lowest, most primitive, most despised and most outnumbered of the races of man. When I graduated from college, I had 4 friends of mixed black heritage who were at the TOP of their class, and had better grades than me; yet,I got hired LONG before them, then watched as the laziest of my white friends got jobs before them. The few good blacks suffer because of the reputation of the 90% bad blacks.
DarwinzFriend 2 months ago
@DarwinzFriend lol.... Whiteness is a dysfunction that cripples not only blacks and other people of color, but also devoids whites from the virtues of truth, knowledge, and true altruism for the sake of living in a euphroia created by them for them. The sickness of whiteness causes whites to live in extreme denial, severe paranoia, and addicted to happiness and superiority even at the cost of other people’s humanity
ajahamza 2 months ago
@DarwinzFriend lol... blacks are the most despised? Have you look at the world lately? Place a map of the world on the wall. Then blindfold yourself and as in pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey, stick a pin on the map. You can do this all day long and wherever that pin lands, WE can document through world history and actual facts, that the white race has been there and murdered, raped and robbed the indigenous people (black, Brown, Red and Yellow).
ajahamza 2 months ago
@DarwinzFriend WE can also document that the white race found these civilizations and cultures superior to what they came from in savage Europe. We agree here, Blacks were never as talented as Whites as far as radical raw hatred - used as a 'tool' to take over the world. you are just one of a whole generation of whites bigots who peddled notions of black inferiority. Sometimes I begin to wonder, is superiority being keen to look down on others and see them as nothing more than low lives?
ajahamza 2 months ago 5
@DarwinzFriend Seems to me @ajahamza's foot is all in ya ass like you riding a schwinn bicycle without the seat.
4zahra 2 months ago
please stop trolling atrollin, this issue is far too serious to make light of
samyou3l 3 months ago
"You can't say to yourself, 'I am son of a bitch'."
ashutoshmikku 3 months ago
@TheSpeckofdust you idiot the majority of India is shit. We would never bow down to you. WHy don't you go and kill some of your daughters because of ur hatred of them. Go make me some slurpies Punja.
GozzyWozzy 3 months ago
America didn't participate in this. America has always defended freedom, unlike these imperialist European scum. I love America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shotsky94 3 months ago
@shotsky94 No the CIA has killed many good African leaders. Look up John Stockwell he used to work for the CIA.
GozzyWozzy 3 months ago
@GozzyWozzy Undoubtedly. But America never colonized any african lands. America has too much respect for human dignity to do such, unlike British and French scum
shotsky94 3 months ago
@shotsky94 America is colonizing Africa right NOW. it is not on the media but they are. Look at Libya, Gaddaffi is trying to help Africa. Look what they did to Angola. They killed many good leaders, there are raping the lands of Africa. It is neocolonialism. They need the resources in order to feed their economy of America. America is probably doing worse to Africa than the French and British. They support terrible leaders in Africa using the IMF and World Bank.
GozzyWozzy 3 months ago
@GozzyWozzy America is liberating Libyan people. America is a great country. America doesnt kill good leaders. America takes out the bad guys, and spreads democracy. America is great. Atm, America is also helping to stabilize the wartorn Central African Region. I love America. You should too!
shotsky94 3 months ago
@shotsky94 Who told you these lies? You need to go deep into the stories don't believe the propaganda they tell you on CNN. It is bullshit. Gadaffi was trying to help Africa. He funded a satellite in Africa that made Europe lose $500 million a year. He also wanted to set up the african monetary fund with$70 billion with no interest. He wants to heelp Africa but America doesn't want that Eisenhower sent a hit on Patrice Lumumba a great leader. US supports bad leaders like Idi Amin
GozzyWozzy 3 months ago
@GozzyWozzy Nah. He was an evil man. They even found a horrific graveyard in which he killed so many people. US didn't support Idi Amin. US only supports good people. America may make mistakes sometimes. But it will always defend freedom and democracy from tyranny and oppression
shotsky94 3 months ago
@shotsky94 Please men!!stop saying lies!!please,US ALWAYS HAVE KILLED NUMEROUS GOOD LEADERS ARROUND THE EARTH!! that's what the government of your country has done all the time!! the killed Lumumba in Congo, they killed Gaitan in Colombia,Allende in Chile,and countless people who defended the soveraignty of their countrys from the claws of the horrible consumism in which lies the excessive North American way of life!! and please stop saying AMERICA WHEN YOU'RE REFERING TO US, SOUTH ALSO EXISTS!!
MrvelvetviruS 3 months ago 2
@MrvelvetviruS No. America never did any of those things. America only kills the good guys like Gaddhafi!
shotsky94 3 months ago
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The europeans colonized them and got them to kill each other off while he steal the gold from under there feet! I Pray that one day we will see who the true enemy is and stop killing our own! Its sad when u think about how everybody who is Non african over there raping the land and our attention is on trying be equal to and accepted by the thief
smdh!
missnaturalbeauty21 3 months ago
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Anywhere europeans went to the past to exploit resources, those places have become shitholes, anywhere europeans put a fuckin feet to become "owners of the land" have become lands of hate and desperation :S THANKS EUROPE FOR "CIVILIZED" THE WORLD IN SUCH HORRIBLE WAY.. filling us all with racial hate arround the earth
MrvelvetviruS 4 months ago
Anywhere europeans went to the past to exploit resources, those places have become shitholes, anywhere europeans put a fuckin feet to become "owners of the land" have become lands of hate and desperation :S THANKS EUROPE FOR "CIVILIZED" THE WORLD IN SUCH HORRIBLE WAY.. filling us all with racial hate arround the earth
MrvelvetviruS 4 months ago 12
@MrvelvetviruS
No offense, but those places were mostly shitholes before Europeans arrived. Did you ever hear of genocide or starvation or mass death while the Europeans were there? They brought Africa medicine, technology, knowledge, religion, food, different plants and countless other great things. And immediately after the Europeans left, they reverted back to barbarism. Your just a typical ungrateful and ignorant moron, Africa benefited tremendously from Europe.
ImperialTexas 3 months ago
@ImperialTexas Yes While europeans were in Africa anihilated a large number of tribal groups, but there are two very sad cases, those cases were the mass killing of Herero and Namba people, aproximately, 100.000 Herero and 10.000 Namba were anihilated by germans, it was the first documented genocide in twentieth century and people died, mainly, because of STARVATION. And that it's just a case, the also killed numerous people in Congo, Guinea, everywhere...
MrvelvetviruS 3 months ago
I`m not any ungratefull moron, because they don't left anything in Africa. They came to Africa, took the knowledge of native people about plants, and made their medicines, they took the resources of african soil and made their technology, they whiped out the knowledge and religion of africans and made them hate their selves, they STARVED the Africans in order to rule over the lands and countless horrible things. And like europeans used to rule with iron hand they left an horrible authority
MrvelvetviruS 3 months ago
@MrvelvetviruS
I'm glad your liberal and socialist brainwashing is complete. They came to Africa in the 19th century already far more advanced than the natives, they didn't steal any knowledge. And even if they did, well you should still be thankful that they were the ones with the brainpower to create the medicine and technology from your resources while you obviously didn't. Let's face it, there were good and bad things about colonialism but you only see the bad.
ImperialTexas 2 months ago
@ImperialTexas There are good and bad things about EVERYTHING. There are even good things about Hitler and Stalin as well. The issue is do the good things outweigh the bad things? When you impose your way of life on another people, when you literally rob that land of money, resources, etc. etc. it sets the country back for a long time. Almost every former colony still struggles today with basic things, there is a reason for that. They are still suffering from the after effects of colonialism.
Legacy285 2 months ago
@ImperialTexas It is white cunts like that what i think that Whiteness is a dysfunction that cripples not only blacks and other people of color, but also devoids whites from the virtues of truth, knowledge, and true altruism for the sake of living in a euphroia created by them for them. The sickness of whiteness causes whites to live in extreme denial, severe paranoia, and addicted to happiness and superiority even at the cost of other people’s humanity
ajahamza 2 months ago in playlist Colonialism & Post-Colonialism
and administrative lack that lead to the selfish and gentry advantage taking the old BARBARISM OF COLONIZATORS to rule the newborn "free"... So, who are the morons? the ignorants? Europeans have and fathomless and eternal debt with Africa!!
MrvelvetviruS 3 months ago
@MrvelvetviruS
You have no idea do you? Yes there were atrocities committed and many bad things happened, but so did several good things. And Europe was barbaric? Africa was still living in the veritable stone ages in the 19th century with tribal warfare and killings, Europe elevated Africa's status if anything.
ImperialTexas 2 months ago
@ImperialTexas Until lions tell their tale, the story of the hunt will always glorify the hunter. If anything, your response just goes to prove my point that the "racial superiority" that infected the Europeans to the point of murdering millions for their own personal gain was not only justified but that it’s still seen as being morally correct, The Hubris of white people never cease to amaze me
ajahamza 2 months ago in playlist Colonialism & Post-Colonialism
@MrvelvetviruS Stop blaming the endless problems of Africa on Europe. Europe is a better continent, where we have law and order, stable governments, and make medical and technological progress. Africa is a backwards continent, which made no use of its abundant natural resources, so you have no right to say the Europeans were wrong in taking them. We send you aid and your diseased governments seize it for themselves and let their people starve. If Africa was more like Europe, it would be better.
Atrollin1 3 months ago
@Atrollin1 the aid never reaches the people. All the countries get is debt and the money goes to investment projects which employs multinationals who take the resources for themselves. The west is funded by the south.
LuxuryLimin 3 months ago
@AtrollinThe problem is not that black folks can’t get along or rule ourselves, or that we lack morals, or any of the subliminal messages white cunt like you would have us believe. The problem is that Africa is, and has been for centuries, the lifeline of Europe and the U.S.
ajahamza 2 months ago
@Atrollin they stole and divided up our land amongst themselves, committed the greatest genocide the world has ever known through the slave trade, robbed Africa of its greatest resource through the theft of human bodies and then saw to the continued theft of all our oil, diamonds, gold, coltan, and other natural resources through colonialism, and now neo-colonialism.
ajahamza 2 months ago
@Atrollin But there is an ideology that justifies this parasitic grip that Europe and the U.S. have on Africa. Europeans shove this crap down our throats and call it our history. .
ajahamza 2 months ago
@ajahamza Not all of it. We have to celebrate "black history month" which supposedly defeats the often twisted accounts, but all it manages to achieve is a generalization of every black person alive.
Also, it doesn't give mention to the ancient white people who were taken as slaves by non-whites, but because they're a smaller proportion, they get overlooked.
Atrollin1 1 month ago
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@Atrollin1 You want blacks to take responsiblity for the fact that whites were taken as slaves by non whites? I cant remember in history of black people taking whites as slaves. But off course if is the Eurocentric version of history, you will accept as non twisted. All blacks alive are the victims of the tyranny of white inhumanity, so what your point? There is a reason why its called black history and not white history. You want to know about white slave, go read white history.
ajahamza 1 month ago
@MrvelvetviruS Yes, thanks Europe, for stopping what's going on in Africa now.
Zimbabwe, now white people are gone, proudly boasts political oppresion, inhumane torture of its people, hyperinflation, poverty and starvation and a generally backwards society. Come to Europe and it's a different picture... actually, you probably will be coming for the better life we have over here when your own country becomes unbearable.
Atrollin2 3 months ago
@MrvelvetviruS Actually, those places became shitholes when Europeans LEFT. Look at Zimbabwe
rapartist43 1 month ago
@rapartist43 But look at Angola and Namibia.
Abdikarimelmi 1 month ago
@Abdikarimelmi What do you mean with Angola? Some 26000 Portuguese just went there. The Chinese own Angola now. And Namibia? Europeans didn't leave Namibia.
rapartist43 1 month ago
@MrvelvetviruS All countries once occupied by the British were better then than they are now.
ShavedKnuckle 2 weeks ago
@MrvelvetviruS Maybe its because the people already living there were shitholes
MTPatriot 2 weeks ago
The Europeans are the Masters of Deception second only to the Devil himself. This will ultimately be their undoing.
Globalfaction 4 months ago in playlist COLONIALISM IN AFRIKKKA
@Globalfaction
The Europeans rule the world, and have for nearly half a millennium now. We have done horrible things and committed atrocities sure, but so has every other people. Europe is the reason were living in the world we are now, without our technology, knowledge, secularism, and inventions we'd still be living in the middle ages. You should be grateful for that instead of slandering the reason for your existence...
ImperialTexas 3 months ago
@Globalfaction
Try fixing your own problems before cursing others you useless scum.
vikingWindmill 2 months ago
This video has opened my eyes!
Black people = good
White people = bad
It all makes sense now!
Also, isn't The Notorious E.D Amin a rapper?
RBISMYLIFE 4 months ago
2:29 "By exploiting linguistic, ethnic, and cultural differences between the peoples of the north and south [of Uganda], Britain's divide and rule policies created a tension between them that helped to maintain British rule."
Does anyone know the details/specifics of how these differences were exploited? By what means? How exactly? Any sources (preferably books) which go into detail about this exploitation of difference?
bapyou 4 months ago
@bapyou
I have a few books on African history, Shillington's History of Africa states that "during the colonial period the British had treated the 'kingdom' of Buganda as though it were a distinct seperate unit with in the Protectorate of Uganda. At the same time the British use of 'indirect rule' had emphasised the continuing role of the kabaka (king) in Baganda political life. Kabaka Mutesa II was determined to retain Buganda's special status in any future independant Ugandan state. ---
Erectoralporicy 4 months ago
@Erectoralporicy Sorry. I've just noticed that your reply is much longer (and in several parts) than that which appeared in my You Tube inbox. Thanks!
bapyou 4 months ago
@bapyou
--- Under the terms of the independence constitution of 1961 Buganda was allowed to excercise its own internal self-government, seperate from central government and under the direct control of the kabaka. The government which took Uganda to independence in October 1962 was a political alliance between Milton Obobote's northern-based Uganda People's Congress and the Buganda royalist party, the Kabaka Yekka Movement. Obote became prime minister and the following year ----
Erectoralporicy 4 months ago
@bapyou
----- Kabaka Mutesa was installed as ceremonial president. Support for Obote's party strengthened after independence and he was able to dispense with his political alliance with the Buganda royalists. In April 1966 Obote declared a new constitution in which he himself became executive President. The special status of Buganda ended violently.." (Shillington, 390)
Essentially what happened with colonialism was the English use of indirect rule was also used as a tactic to give some ---
Erectoralporicy 4 months ago
@bapyou
--- groups special privileges, such as the Ganda people, while giving the rest of an area's population average privileges. Giving the Ganda people the right to retain a kebaka was an exploitation of cultural and ethnic differences amongst peoples in Uganda. Upon Uganda's independence rather than, dividing these to groups into seperate countries, they tied the two factions together in a cooperative government - with one faction being embittered towards the other having been favoured.
Erectoralporicy 4 months ago
@bapyou
By doing this, there is a great possibility of civil war and dispute within a newly founded countries. Once this is established it becomes easy to maintain influence without liability, and very little commitment. This achieved by pandering to one of the groups in dispute, in exchange for lucrative transactions within markets, resources, and creating arrangements within a Military-industrial complex.
Erectoralporicy 4 months ago
@Erectoralporicy Thanks for the reply, but your explanation was general in tone. I'm interested in obtaining specific and detailed information as to the socio-political and perhaps socio-economic mechanics of how the British exploited Uganda's ethnic differences; a book title would be preferred.
By the way, this film in its entirety is absolutely horrific. I couldn't finish watching it; it was making me sick.
bapyou 4 months ago
The so called "good things" that Europeans brought to Africa could never come anywhere close to the value of ONE human life.
josephinechristelle 4 months ago
@josephinechristelle what does that even fucking mean? Africans were running around naked when europeans entered the interior. Parts of africa didnt have the wheel. Africa was brough thousands of years forward by europe and had the africans not had the hubris to believe they could govern a modern economy and revolted against colonialism theyd today face far fewer problems and even be a compeitive region. But keep thinking blacks are good whites bad the blacks are the only ones hurt in the end.
Seaworldexists 4 months ago
@Seaworldexists Running around naked? I see you're very knowledgeable on the subject... Even so? Who asked them to come there destroying the cultures, customs, languages, self-esteem etc. Who goes abroad to massacre, disrespect, dehumanize, steal from people and expect them to thank you in return? I'd love for you to go back in time and witness every atrocity against INNOCENT children, men, women and look at those people in the eyes telling them: Oh well at least now you'll have the wheel.
josephinechristelle 4 months ago
@josephinechristelle It is the whtie mans burden to civilize the africans. Their culture was weak and ineffective. They were basically in the state of nature thousands of years behind the europeans. It is time for the great powers to once again take over the administration of africa. Most of Africas rulers are far less humane than the colonial governors.
Seaworldexists 4 months ago
@Seaworldexists What you're saying reflects your ignorance and racist mind that I can't help but laugh (are you for real? 21st century, really?). Have you ever heard of something called Human rights and a nation's sovereignty?
josephinechristelle 4 months ago
@josephinechristelle The only thing that rules the world is power. Human rights are a myth. Prejudices are mankinds most reliable source of judgement as they draw from the well of human history and not just the fickle fashion of the day. You are made ignorant by your belief that all are equal when they clearly are not. Even worse you are willing to subject the people of africa to plauge, genocide, and famine so they can have 'national soverignty' (AKA some barbaric dictator).
Seaworldexists 4 months ago
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@Seaworldexists Running around naked? I see you're very knowledgeable on the subject... Even so? Who asked them to come there destroying the cultures, customs, languages, self-esteem etc. Who goes abroad to massacre, disrespect, dehumanize, steal from people and expect them to thank you in return? I'd love for you to go back in time and witness every atrocity against INNOCENT children, men, women and look at those people in the eyes telling them: Oh well at least now you'll have the wheel.
josephinechristelle 4 months ago
@blazay590 could the reason be in the immense level of corruption in the african states? Another would be economic miss-management since independence, for example in zimbabwe. And probably the most likely reason is the lack of education. Look europeans did massively horrible things in africa, a clear example of that is the Congo. But, not everything was bad. I would recommend doing some reading/studying the colonial period, and comparing it with what is happening now in africa with the chinese.
MrSpritzmeister 5 months ago
Europe bollocksed the world by colonizing the entire planet, then failing everyone who relied on them for order and stability. How did they fail? European power collapsed in the fraticidal wars of WW1 and WW2. The departure of colonial power left chaos worldwide, that many people are still trying to dig out of. The United States has spent the last 50 years naively and ignorantly trying to quell and police post-colonial conflicts, even though it should really be europeans' responsibility.
cbmccarthy 6 months ago
I am a retired Businessman and I have to say this video is garbage, England has given money and aid to africa for 200 years, we tried to help them yet them still remain backward. They are in the mess due to their own lazy attitudes and culture
Jimmyretired 6 months ago
@Jimmyretired
The fault lies on both sides. Japan is developed, but if it came to England and made Englishmen work, behave and live in an Japanese manner, how many Englishmen would manage to do so? Africa was backward during its first contacts with European powers, but it never was given the opportunity to develop by itself, according to its own rules. Japan was, and see where it is today. Africa wasn't, and it still is failing to find itself in a reality created by foreigners. Simple like that
ConradInternational 6 months ago
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Kralovsti 5 months ago
@Jimmyretired
your own thinking is backward, you think money can free people? What has your money done to develop africa? absolutely nothing? You even insult their culture. Well i dont expect you to understand their culture because basically you have no culture of your own. There is a saying, you can't blame a fool, which you prove to be. Doing something many times and expecting a different result is stupidity, and that's exactly what you are doing with your money. Leave Africa alone you moron.
Kralovsti 5 months ago
@Jimmyretired Hey jimmyretard, you're a backward, uneducated, inhuman shit.
bufon63 4 months ago
@Jimmyretired we give more aid to the UK in the way of resources and interest payments on debt than u give back in aid.
so shut the fuck up and educate yourself.
silly thing. without looting african resources the UK will be a shit hole.
for fuks sakes that is what the libyan war is about.not democracy but oil.
xcalibur4l 4 months ago
@xcalibur4l ahahah sure, we were great before, and so after. what they did, in 400.000 years? just cry for help
they're far more brutal and racist than we do, anyone as been in africa knows it. ppl just able to make 10 children, worthless animals is what they really are, period, open your eyes in uk niggs just able to riots for rob some shit.
mattvlad3 4 months ago
What the europeans done , and are doing , is discusting !!!!
They have power to unite the world and make it a heaven, but instead they chose to be racist, and greedy.
truthhitmanisback 6 months ago
@truthhitmanisback you should be thanking europeans for giving you civilisation and a good way of life
Jimmyretired 6 months ago
@Jimmyretired WRONG ! I should be thanking my ancestors ! It was because of my ancestors and their sacrifice at the hands of a merciless people who still have blood on their hands when they raped young children in cold blood, and chopped off their hands as was done in the Congo by the racist belgians, It is all of this and more that gives the present generation of white people the ability to walk around with their chest out as if they have some economic inginuity.
truthhitmanisback 6 months ago
@Jimmyretired
No they shouldn't.
DivinelyMochaDipped 6 months ago
This documentary fails to tell the story of what good things europeans brought like medicine.
MrSpritzmeister 7 months ago
@MrSpritzmeister white people did nothing it was better before colonization look at it now full of war do ue know why they hate europeans because u colonized them they will hate white people till the end of time because of ur fucking greed for land now look what you did wants all of africa espesially zimbabwe get nukes they will head for europe and we are all doomed 2012 the arabs and africans hate europeans but pretend to like them afghanistan at war with the palestine/israel they hate the us
mrcrordry 7 months ago
@MrSpritzmeister so fuck you yo motherfucking peace of shit
mrcrordry 7 months ago
@MrSpritzmeister
Europeans did a horrible thing to Africa, they were better off without Euro invasion.
ChampCarforlife 7 months ago
@MrSpritzmeister
LOL, Well they who brought the disease in the first place? -___-
LMAO.
DivinelyMochaDipped 6 months ago
@DivinelyMochaDipped I am sure there had been diseases in Africa before, its not like europeans invented diseases so all of the humankind could suffer collectively together. Dont be an idiot.
MrSpritzmeister 6 months ago
@MrSpritzmeister
lmfao i'm not an idiot. trust me. i'm just trying to piss you off. and i can tell that it may have gotten to ya a little bit.
:-P
DivinelyMochaDipped 6 months ago
@MrSpritzmeister
and if they did bring medicine, they probably overpriced the shit for their own selfish gain. u really want to sit over there on the other side of ur computer and act like these people owe euros any kind of gratitude? yeah right. they should love europeans about as much as native americans in the united states should. i'm not gonna categorize ALL your ppl, but y are those of u who are so arrogant...so arrogant. just wondering.
DivinelyMochaDipped 6 months ago
@DivinelyMochaDipped who is ALL my people??? my first comment was mainly to see what happens if I say that there was a alot of things that europeans brought to africa, that were not bad. Obviously, alot of horrible things happened, I never contested that. The joke has been on my side the whole time.
MrSpritzmeister 5 months ago
Without colonialism Africa would look like a Mad Max film starring apes. Africa thrived under colonialism. Ethiopia & Liberia were the only nations never colonized & today they stand as the 2 most poorest & backward nations on Earth. Blacks r the most ungrateful lifeforms on the planet. The only talking species on Earth completely incapable of saying "thank you." They know they owe everything they have today to the White man, but they'd never admit it out loud cause they're stupid & primitive.
NNNForum 7 months ago
@NNNForum without africa helping europe whites would still be living in dark caves waiting for lightning to strike a tree for fire. You backward pale savages go around the world fucking everything up living in our once great nations because yours sucked couldnt even run your own bath water. Even bees did more the world then you backward pale apes. I would say thank you for letting me know how evil and fucked up you whites truley are I dont even know why i say thank you you shits arent even
SupremekaiD5 7 months ago
@NNNForum worth a thank you .
SupremekaiD5 7 months ago
@NNNForum You mean the white man owes everything to blacks and never say "thank you." Since we created you ungrateful bastards!
whayes8084 5 months ago
@whayes8084 created what? you're not able to create an alphabet, you're a step back in the evolution, period
mattvlad3 4 months ago
sick
MWSARSCA 7 months ago
Highly entertaining now I'm going to go take a dump chompski.
future4you 7 months ago
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If it weren't for our wars and the UN, we would still be rulling in Africa, and Africa wouldn't be so devasted and perhaps fully industrializated. But the United states needed to stick their nose in everything and ruin our empires. Europeans shall rule again in Africa !
HenrySims 8 months ago
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HenrySims 8 months ago
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Niggers are WORTHLESS thats why they get smashed on and taken advantage of....and cuz they are sooo very stupid.
mrtundra45 8 months ago
You can see this now with the invasion adn subsequent occupation of Afghanistand adn Iraq. Certainly now in Libya and Eygpt etc. Same old internationslists committing the most horrific crimes thru-out modern history (2-300 yrs) without mercy or remorse. One has to ask who these ppl are? What makes them cold blooded psychopaths
Badwolf182 8 months ago
Colonialism fucked up Africa. That's all there is to it. The Europeans pull out, the Africans kill each other.
Bad move, Europe, bad move.
grungedog3 8 months ago
And then you talk about colonialism while showing kids with arms chopped off. Who did that? Whites rarely chop off arms AFAIK. You want to make it about race? Be honest. You help nobody when you can't get the facts straight.
constructivereconcil 8 months ago
If you want to pretend that colonialism was pure greed & evil, wile its victims were pure innocents, you will throw away a lot of progress. Punish the true criminals but & acknowledge those who did good, in spite of their positions of power over others, many did do right by natives.
Grow up & cut the easy, reducing-everything-to-a lie that only sounds consistent with the same lies that have been told for decades. It ended with Hitler, & for him it was about race, but look who stopped him.
constructivereconcil 8 months ago
Of course for Noam Chomsky never even heard of Islamic imperialism, it's the white man that ruined the bliss of mankind. Sure. Britain brought rule of law, & in many cases the abuses were punished once the government found out.
The history of man is that our new technologies bring new problems. Shit happens & justice happens a bit later, some times it takes decades. Basically the end of WWII & war crimes trials were the end of a century of war, leaving only the remnants to play out.
constructivereconcil 8 months ago
@constructivereconcil I can't stand Chomsky for a number of reasons. Europe and Western Civilization is a modern scapegoat for the flaws of human nature. Pre-colonial African civilizations were also imperialistic, brutal and slave traders. They just ran into a more powerful force when Europeans came into the picture. The same goes for the rest of the world that European powers conquered.
bxjam85 8 months ago
@bxjam85 Just because it will happen doesn't mean you have to excuse it. This idea that that Europe is a scapegoat for things Europe is doing is ridiculous. America and Europe supported dictators,started wars, and worse off used the IMF and World Bank to screw many poor nations INCLUDING parts of America and Europe. And this isn't some radical liberal speaking, there is too much destruction being done.
blueiguy1 8 months ago
@blueiguy1 I did not say that we should excuse imperialistic behavior. I am anti-imperialistic. I am not, however, anti-hegemonic in instances where my freedom from unprovoked aggression is threatened. America and Europe did support dictators but only because they were the lesser evils. For example, America supported the autocratic Shah of Iran to ward off the Islamic Republic that dominates now. America supported a dictatorial president in Cuba to ward off the communists, etc. etc.
bxjam85 8 months ago
@bxjam85 Very good point. Although you say its the lesser of two evils too me it would seem as "destroying the seed before it grows". In the case of Congo 5.7 million people have died as a result of Mabuto. All because he was a "Capitalist" but thats not what the country wanted. Why should we decided who is the leader of another country if it works for them. Communism is only bad to those who say its bad.For example China owns the world so why don't any Capitalist challenging that.
blueiguy1 8 months ago
@blueiguy1 Because China isn't really communist anymore. China is now described by economists and political scientists as an authoritarian, state capitalist nation. They started accepting some capitalist policies in the 1970's due to economic stagnation. They needed to be able to compete with the West. Also, you're talking about the Cold War era, when the Soviet Union was assisting rebels in the overthrow of states. Personally, I'm happy that the U.S. fought that tyrannical disease.
bxjam85 8 months ago
Noam Chomsky; the epitome of the delusional hippie. Conflating everything that was wrong about European cultivation in the most destructive age of man due to the industrial revolution and Darwinism. Chomsky's opening remarks are so reduced to such conflation as to be nearly meaningless. It only stands to represent a gut-level anger from those who are encouraged to see themselves only as victims.
Thanks for nothing, Chomsky.
constructivereconcil 8 months ago
you should stop wasting your time helping africans, they are beyond repair its in their dna to screw their countries up, I lived in kenya for a while and they cannot even run a bath yet alone a country just forget them pal, they fucked up their own back yard now they want to live in the uk and america and rob of the whiteman
Jimmyretired 8 months ago
@Jimmyretired you clearly lost your mind.. in gods eyes what nationality is better than the other? None. If its in black peoples DNA to screw things up its in the whites to rape, euthanize, sterilize, abandon and ostracize all other nationalities that are not black!
jasminekingbaby 8 months ago
@Jimmyretired you clearly lost your mind.. in gods eyes what nationality is better than the other? None. If its in black peoples DNA to screw things up its in the whites to rape, euthanize, sterilize, abandon and ostracize all other nationalities that are not black!
jasminekingbaby 8 months ago
This time for Africa. That's all I freakin have to say
darlingyoung1 9 months ago
@Davidsondaini GO DIE
unfukkkmee 9 months ago
When you domesticate a pet and own it for ages," I said, "letting them back into the wild is dangerous.
They won't be able to fend for themselves and they'll probably starve to death."
"That's true enough," replied my black history tutor "but what's that got to do with decolinization of Africa?
droffensivePhd 9 months ago
@droffensivePhd Dangerous for who? For the structural power that "domesticated" I presume. "let it be so" is what i say. Remember, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
hivedrone83 9 months ago
@unfukkkmee fuck u 2 cracka ass cracka
noedig1000 9 months ago
@noedig1000 BURN IN HELL
unfukkkmee 9 months ago
@KKKSuperFan dirty ass cracka i hope you die slowly
noedig1000 10 months ago
The things is they were tribes in huts but if the white man left them alone what would they have become prob move on from huts to cities like the Aztecs and tribes in SOuth america then prob move on to Cities like Cario and alexandria like in egypt
and by that point u knows what might have became of them because by that point the white man swooped in burned down there cities and imposed there Way of doing things on things
Norg1 11 months ago
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SirHappyThe1st 10 months ago
History is the witness and it is verifiably the case that Western contacts with Africa have had most negative consequences. It began with the slave trade, then colonialism, neocolonialism, the Cold War and through all these Westerners stripped and exploited Africa for Africa’s human, mineral and sundry other resources.
MrCrocodilehunter 11 months ago
3.43 What does he say the latest tragedy is? What's the name of the tragedy?
Phirelord77 11 months ago
@Phirelord77 I think its Darfur that you're asking about x
mellymoocow2 10 months ago
Koin is like a christian taliban
mastaODI56 11 months ago
Im not sure colonialism was economically smart for europe but those savages in africa sure as helll benefited from it.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists lol thought you were being serious for a second
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 they didnt have the wheel in parts of africa before the 1870s. Get real.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists they didnt have problems with millions of people starving to death every day and the environment was better off before colonisation. Economically smart for Europe? Pretty sure all those slaves did a fair bit of work for Europeans, Pretty much everywhere was better off before the white people got there
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 Okay its nowhere near a million per day but the fact that africa can support one billion people is the miracle of westernization. We can look at the bad parts of African society today but consider what it was like before europe a tribal society where 60% of men died violent deaths. Life was nasty brutish and short and Europe unfortunately was not in africa long enough.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists the life you describe sounds a lot like the life of a slave/ Hahaha there simply was no starving people before Europe got there, the people there are not better off now. Europe took slaves and resources and gave disease and famine
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 No starving people beforeeuropeans came? How thats possible I dont know but even if youre right the population wouldve been signifiacntly lower than 100 million simply because tribal socieites cannot sustain a high population and therefore Europeanization has allowed 900 million more people to survive in africa. I see you havent ditched your computer yet so I take it you agree life without western technology would be hellish.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists so you believe that the taking of slaves and raping of the land by Europeans was good for the people of Africa? haha life would be hellish? You think there are no people living hellish lives today?
Your ignorance is amusing, So raping a women is good because it might allow an extra person to live?
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 Taking of slaves isnt really colonialism Im referencing the scramble for africa but lets look at slavery. 1620-1808 millions are transferred to the americas. Slavery was bad but living in a tribal society was probably just as bad or not much better. But today the dsescendents of laves in america, and the caribbean are a hell of a lot better off than had they been left in africa.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists You sir are crazy if you believe the slaves were better off than they had been as free men in their own land. The only people that are a hell of a lot better off than they were before slavery are the white people. The ridiculous size of the gap between rich and poor comes from the taking of resources and people like happened in Africa. You really believe colonisation was bad for europeans and good for africans, the euros just did it out of the kindness of their hearts?
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 So there was no gap between europeans in 1870 and africans they had the same amoubt of wealth give me a break.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists Ask the kids that were starving to death on the streets of England at the time how rich they were.
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 I would tell those kids ur only alive because of industry.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@openblue07 Life in a tribe is by definition hellish.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists i dont believe life in tribes was always hellish. It could be hard at some points im sure but certainly not as bad as being taken to another country and forced into slavery. The Maori tribes of New zealand, native tribes of papa new guinea, clans of ireland and scotland, aboriginal tribes of australia, civilisations of south america, all these tribal groups have recordings of life which was not always helish.
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 Its not the point tribal life was far worse than life in an industrialized society. Africa was about 6-10,000 years behind europe and we moved them in a period of 70 years forward within 100 years of us.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists That really depends on what you mean by being behind. Certainly industry was worse for the land and sustainability of environments than tribal life. Have you read much about life for the poor in these society's that went to Africa? Why do you think so many people were keen to leave these places? I am going to take a guess that you have not been to Africa?
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 No africa again is about 100 years behind us I wouldnt want to live in 1911 if i could live in 2011. But in 1870 they were about 6000 years behind us so I think thats an improvement. As for the environment the more carbon weve put into the atmosphere the better life has been on earth.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists I think you will find life has got a lot worse for a large amount of animals in africa that were completely fine before europeans arrived. The countries have been forced into european ways of doing things, this does not mean they have improved just changed.
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 Who cares about the animals when the humans are better off?
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@openblue07 But its clear youre one of those white hating anarchoprimitivists from your last comment so jsut throw out your computer pitch a tent in the middle of the woods and live off of raddishes and turnips its really awesome.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago
@Seaworldexists i dont hate anyone, why do you assume people have to hate a certain group? I certainly dont hate technology, im not a big fan of turnip dont mind radish. I just disagree with your belief that the Europeans helped out the africans by enslaving them and raping their land.
openblue07 11 months ago
@openblue07 You said white people cause havoc wherever they go. Africa was given a structure for modern life they are more advance in everyway be it cultural, political or technologically than they were.
Seaworldexists 11 months ago