a little tip, move your bow closer to the bridge when you get farther up into the thumb positions. your bow seems to be constantly too close to the scroll, even in those lower positions like I and III, otherwise, fantastic
im not gonna be like everyone else and say the little things about it to make it seem like i know alot, and to show off. but the trill is a little iffy
However, your phrasing could have been better, espicially during the harmonics. The piece takes a slightly more dramatic and more emotional pause after the lively C major section. It would be even more impressive if you were to slow down after the end of the arpeggios, then accent the beginning of the one that follows, giving it more flow.
Again, great work! It is a very challenging and moving piece and you played it very well.
Pino or the other one I'm sure you use words too hard. You are a joung doublebassist player, italian, and it's not beautiful to attack always me. I'm a poor very poor db. player. Magna Grecia but better Maderna.
Addirittura! Mohhhhh.... ah director Silvio da Trasimeno! Ciao!
There's another thesis. Nanny's editor asked him to write a Concert for doublebass and orchestra. Nanny did it. Probably to increase the selling they decided to attribute it to Mr. Dragonetti. In fact, until now, it's a great success among students. It's not a great concert, but it works well. If you like, go to Mr.Stefano Sciascia website and listen to the original concert in A major. Best regards.
Orsù Silvio da Trasimeno, questa l' avevo già sentita. Vabbèèè il giornalaio pezzo di m. si va a fare un bel bicchiere di Brunello sperando di non affogarci dentro.
A silvio Silvio. Non ti rispondo più tanto hai sempre ragione tu! Mi aspetto qualche commento dei tuoi su allievi del Petra. Non ne vedo.
Senti, tu con chi hai studiato. Dal tuo curriculum leggo un nome molto importante. E' possibile? Ora puoi mandarmi a quel Paese come ti pare e piace. Fallo in Inglese, visto che conosci bene tutte le parolacce.
Un salutone dal co........ hai capito bene silviuzzo bello.
just would like to remember that this concert has never written by Dragonetti (probably by Dragottesini ;-)!). Surely it's an Edoard NANNY's concert written while he was the director of Nationa Conservatory in Paris. The only one who has recorded the authentic concert by Domenico Dragonetti has been italian maestro STEFANO SCIASCIA. Look at his web site. Also Fiona Palmer in her wonderful book indicates the correct concert edit by Malaric. So don't call him"Dragonetti Concert" :-((!
the tempo is allegro moderato where the quarter note equals 104 but despite the accelerando in the beginning run there is not many drastic tempo changes besides a poco ritard here and there
PLEASE play that first G with even a little vibrato. Let those harmonics ring. Pick a tempo. Work on your scales and vibrato. Be sure not to play that dotted eighth-sixteenth pattern as an eighth note triplet. It should have more space inbetween the notes. You need to work on some fingers. The e minor section sounded mumbled. Vibrato on those high notes! Play that upper register confidently! The harmonic passage needs to be played way more legato and move your bow closer to the bridge during it.
on the sixteenth note descending scale at the beginning all the notes are really hard to distinguish. part of its probably the recording but he uses way less bow then I would on the notes.
i have the george vance, and the one in the yellow sleeve(with the sheet music and the piano part). i need to find the orchestra part but in standard tuning...
What copy of this music do you have? Most copies that I have don't have any tenor cleff, putting it in there just makes it more overcomplicated. A George Vance book by any chance?
pretty good job pretty good tone. The harmonics were good some were a little off and a little scratchy but overall pretty good. Try to use vibrato on the high notes in the thumb position
I think the severe criticism is unwarranted. He's a student and this is a very difficult piece. One piece of constructive criticism: I strongly feel the player ought to use vibrato-- to add warmth and texture to the notes-- particularly in the higher registers. Watch some of the pros. They really rip those first three notes at the entrance of first movement-- with a warm, intense, vibrated sound.
umm i dont get how someone can ruin a popular piece like the dragonetti concerto and still score high at state. somehow you did. those judges must have been deaf, and how about writting the title, author and which movement you playing so that half the people who see this know what they are looking at? that makes since to me...
Ahh!! Thumb on the first note?!?! Fatal Error! Use first finger!! Tempos are everywhere!! You rush, you drag! In my opinion a rather tasteless interpretation. Please shoot your teacher for letting you do this to such a nice concerto. Practice with a metronome.
I agree. There was some vibrato at the beginning, but it looked nervous and forced.
But sometimes, on the 16th runs, it sounds mushed together and harsh. So I'd practice it slower. If you can't play it slow and make it sound good, you can't play it fast.
well thats wierd wouldnt it be called the nanny concerto in a. did they just throw the dragonetti piece in thier cause it soundedd nice. or was it original works of dragonetti and nanny arranged . yeah im pretty sure it was that!!!
Your just making that up. Domenico Dragonetti died 26 years before Eduard Nanny was even born. Nanny was a famous french player and could easily play this concerto. He wrote it as a tribute to Dragonetti and wrote in in the classical style Dragonetti would have played.
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Great job, Tyler! Congratulations on placing 4th at the 2007 Oregon State Solo Competition (as a freshman)!
DoubleBassFan1 5 days ago
My 8th grade mentor can play this but not as good as quality
joshsilv1999 4 months ago
wonderful! Im a sophomore in highschool and this is my next piece! =)
THEIBEA5T 8 months ago
@THEIBEA5T .......mine too......... weird.
bowflop 3 months ago
Respond to this video... i am also a sophmore....not kidding.
bowflop 3 months ago
nice
you don't see much bass melodies in orchestras, so this is impressive
TheCheesyProductions 1 year ago
@TheCheesyProductions bass melodies are saved for the best moments ;D
oberon06 1 year ago
fantastic playing man,
a little tip, move your bow closer to the bridge when you get farther up into the thumb positions. your bow seems to be constantly too close to the scroll, even in those lower positions like I and III, otherwise, fantastic
bobthedude54 1 year ago
Beautiful....please brother, more videos of Dragonetti
jhidalgo77 1 year ago
Nice I would Love to get My hands on a one of those. and Post some Funk Music Improv
fishfrizbee 1 year ago
dude you shifted like 80 times :DD thats so cool hahaha,
i play the bass to but im poop next to you x)
allyboii1 1 year ago
Orchestral tuning ?
pankracy111 1 year ago
well done
Wierdoinc 1 year ago
She said you are garbage!!!eat shit!
z4835fg 2 years ago
and dont forget your right hand its your voice, and its really terrible.. the right hand its the same or maybe more than the left hand...
u can use, zimmerman the bowing method or bille 3 those maybe can helo u with interpretation
pelonpelonchaz 2 years ago
impressive, I'm working on this peice too for an audition. The first movement is a little shaky but overall great job
saralowdermilk 2 years ago
la verdad eske tienes una muy mala afinacion..... ademas que no tienes nada de sonido
y nada de modulacion al tocar esta cancion
7nikossss 2 years ago
aprende a tocar tienes un sonido malísimo en la parte rapida te falta mas movilidad de la mano pareces robot
carloschanclon66 2 years ago
bad bassist man!
schimmelpenninq 2 years ago
temos omesmo sobrenome
mhaludragonetti 2 years ago
whoa! is that a freakin full size?
StopTheMoti0n 2 years ago
great job bud!!! minor intonation issues, but its on BASS!!! fuck yea
MrAlexbradley 2 years ago
poor sound quality on the recording which, im sure, is the origin of all these criticisms....
Ahnyonghasayo 2 years ago
The timing is a little bit off, make sure you don't cut notes too short or come in too quickly =]
emilieecstasy 2 years ago
thats whats she said
Jockstrap132 2 years ago
im not gonna be like everyone else and say the little things about it to make it seem like i know alot, and to show off. but the trill is a little iffy
seabass888000 2 years ago 2
yeah i know he has his wrist on the bass..... thats a no-no
ecwtheextrem 2 years ago
ma l'intonazione????
francxxx 3 years ago
Good job.
However, your phrasing could have been better, espicially during the harmonics. The piece takes a slightly more dramatic and more emotional pause after the lively C major section. It would be even more impressive if you were to slow down after the end of the arpeggios, then accent the beginning of the one that follows, giving it more flow.
Again, great work! It is a very challenging and moving piece and you played it very well.
Contrabass93 3 years ago
yeah that or i use 2 1 3
and there was a few phrases where i think got off the note to quick. you can hold it out more
plustom 3 years ago
that was good,
but he shouldnt have started with his thumb.
The fingering i use is 2 3 3
But thats just me
PedullaMan21 3 years ago
thumb is fine if you close it and can vibrate with your thumb
dextorgarfunkle 2 years ago
nice job man
i love this song im 13 and im auditioning for
all long island with this
seabass888000 3 years ago
dragottesini,you talk so much, but where are your videos on youtube playin bass?
whobedat1985 3 years ago
you talk so much, where are your videoes on youtube playin bass? thats what i thought
whobedat1985 3 years ago
The question is stupid, my italian friends!
Very stupid. So, no answer!
Zio Pino??? e il resto della compagnia, forse!!!
vitoliuzzi 3 years ago
Pino or the other one I'm sure you use words too hard. You are a joung doublebassist player, italian, and it's not beautiful to attack always me. I'm a poor very poor db. player. Magna Grecia but better Maderna.
vitoliuzzi 3 years ago
Uncle Pinuccio from south Italy don't exagerate.
vitoliuzzi 3 years ago
I love the incredible discrepancy in the comments between what I'm assuming to be random people and professional/really good bassists
necroramo 3 years ago
Addirittura! Mohhhhh.... ah director Silvio da Trasimeno! Ciao!
There's another thesis. Nanny's editor asked him to write a Concert for doublebass and orchestra. Nanny did it. Probably to increase the selling they decided to attribute it to Mr. Dragonetti. In fact, until now, it's a great success among students. It's not a great concert, but it works well. If you like, go to Mr.Stefano Sciascia website and listen to the original concert in A major. Best regards.
vitoliuzzi 3 years ago
Orsù Silvio da Trasimeno, questa l' avevo già sentita. Vabbèèè il giornalaio pezzo di m. si va a fare un bel bicchiere di Brunello sperando di non affogarci dentro.
A silvio Silvio. Non ti rispondo più tanto hai sempre ragione tu! Mi aspetto qualche commento dei tuoi su allievi del Petra. Non ne vedo.
Un carissimo saluto Silvio.
vitoliuzzi 3 years ago
Ciao Dragottesini Silvio da Trasimeno.
Come stai? Ma povero ragazzo lascialo stare.
Senti, tu con chi hai studiato. Dal tuo curriculum leggo un nome molto importante. E' possibile? Ora puoi mandarmi a quel Paese come ti pare e piace. Fallo in Inglese, visto che conosci bene tutte le parolacce.
Un salutone dal co........ hai capito bene silviuzzo bello.
vitoliuzzi 3 years ago
just would like to remember that this concert has never written by Dragonetti (probably by Dragottesini ;-)!). Surely it's an Edoard NANNY's concert written while he was the director of Nationa Conservatory in Paris. The only one who has recorded the authentic concert by Domenico Dragonetti has been italian maestro STEFANO SCIASCIA. Look at his web site. Also Fiona Palmer in her wonderful book indicates the correct concert edit by Malaric. So don't call him"Dragonetti Concert" :-((!
vitoliuzzi 3 years ago
very nice... You must have gotten better by now, would like to hear your progress!
peace, BBP
BankruptBassplayer 3 years ago
the tempo is allegro moderato where the quarter note equals 104 but despite the accelerando in the beginning run there is not many drastic tempo changes besides a poco ritard here and there
keep trying!
nfblackburn13 3 years ago
dissonant, out of tempo and altogether horrid
chevr0letman 3 years ago
ehhhh, hes no stanley clarke. but dont get all bitchy, i know the difference between what this guy does and what stanley does.
jmzach 3 years ago
to me the top four things to a performance are 1)Tone 2)Tempo 3)Rhythm 4)Intonation
Work on number two mostly
futurebass09 3 years ago
With all of the tempo changes this was almost painful to listen to.
jahnke92 3 years ago
PLEASE play that first G with even a little vibrato. Let those harmonics ring. Pick a tempo. Work on your scales and vibrato. Be sure not to play that dotted eighth-sixteenth pattern as an eighth note triplet. It should have more space inbetween the notes. You need to work on some fingers. The e minor section sounded mumbled. Vibrato on those high notes! Play that upper register confidently! The harmonic passage needs to be played way more legato and move your bow closer to the bridge during it.
danielxelliot 3 years ago 2
loosen up ur bow arm.
thats all thats really needed
TehRacooonODoom 3 years ago
You need to fix some bowings
jsxtal 3 years ago
Where? Be specific because I did not see any bowing issues. The recording quality was poor, but the execution was great.
gbear4 3 years ago
on the sixteenth note descending scale at the beginning all the notes are really hard to distinguish. part of its probably the recording but he uses way less bow then I would on the notes.
Perrylax 3 years ago
i have the george vance, and the one in the yellow sleeve(with the sheet music and the piano part). i need to find the orchestra part but in standard tuning...
lesfiend17 4 years ago
i started working on this too. the intro isn't terribly hard, just after that is hard. i need to work on my treble and tenor cleff reading.
lesfiend17 4 years ago
What copy of this music do you have? Most copies that I have don't have any tenor cleff, putting it in there just makes it more overcomplicated. A George Vance book by any chance?
Mecinimi 4 years ago
Do you have to read tenor cleff alot when playing bass?
I'm not a big tenor cleff fan.
achukachu22 3 years ago
I mispelled clef! *runs off crying*
achukachu22 3 years ago
i have played a few different pieces where i had to read both tenor and treble clef in addition to bass so it's good to know them all.
aj517917 3 years ago
pretty good job pretty good tone. The harmonics were good some were a little off and a little scratchy but overall pretty good. Try to use vibrato on the high notes in the thumb position
bigjordan456 4 years ago
Omg you did great!!! I just started working on that song. I just recently finished Gavotte by Lorinzetti
tfot34 4 years ago
ugly record sound
magnificent playing
StephaneGrappelli 4 years ago
i think you did JUST GREAT!
i play the cello, and i want to try bass out now!
thanks for inspiring me!
ace456 4 years ago
I think the severe criticism is unwarranted. He's a student and this is a very difficult piece. One piece of constructive criticism: I strongly feel the player ought to use vibrato-- to add warmth and texture to the notes-- particularly in the higher registers. Watch some of the pros. They really rip those first three notes at the entrance of first movement-- with a warm, intense, vibrated sound.
CycloneJosh 4 years ago
del nabo. es la version mas gacha q eh escuchado. Le falta mucha pero mucha interpretación, y el tiempo está muy mal, acelera el tiempo bien cañon.
pastorius123 4 years ago
This is hardly as bad as all these people are saying. I guess your video attracted a frustrated master-class of db virtuosi.
In any event, nice tone, beautifully executed harmonics. Good job. Great piece, well-played. You entertained the shit out of me, at least.
jbarbri 4 years ago
how can you possibly be comfortable sitting like that
mcrider18 4 years ago
lol its more comfy than u expect :D
sharpienpen 4 years ago
umm i dont get how someone can ruin a popular piece like the dragonetti concerto and still score high at state. somehow you did. those judges must have been deaf, and how about writting the title, author and which movement you playing so that half the people who see this know what they are looking at? that makes since to me...
pricelesspistola321 4 years ago
el, oh, el.
dolofonos 4 years ago
Ahh!! Thumb on the first note?!?! Fatal Error! Use first finger!! Tempos are everywhere!! You rush, you drag! In my opinion a rather tasteless interpretation. Please shoot your teacher for letting you do this to such a nice concerto. Practice with a metronome.
solobasso 4 years ago
nice job overall
i performed this piece last year, and it was awesome.
i just don't agree with the way you phrased some of the sections.
good job :)
kirstinownss 4 years ago
Wonderful Sound!!!
For my personal opinion,
I suggest to play most of the notes on the same string, and can have more glissando.
barrygame 4 years ago
what song is this
frank788892111 4 years ago
Tem um cara da Colômbia que toca muito melhor que você gringo, estude mais ok?
gvt76 4 years ago
Asi es! Mándalo a estudiar!!
solobasso 4 years ago
Ya man this peice is a monster!! I'm performing it in march. Well see how it goes. Good sound but they're right about practicing it slower
zorattoproductions 4 years ago
I played this a while ago, I took a bit more time on the opening part, but it sounds pretty good.
louiedabassist 4 years ago
soem parts are rushed, but nice work
rjsbass 4 years ago
Oh, and it actually sounds like you might have a little too much rosin on your bow, because it's like you're grinding through the notes.
iHaveFeelingsToo 4 years ago
how about some vibrato? Nice big sound though
bassist1627 4 years ago
I agree. There was some vibrato at the beginning, but it looked nervous and forced.
But sometimes, on the 16th runs, it sounds mushed together and harsh. So I'd practice it slower. If you can't play it slow and make it sound good, you can't play it fast.
It still sounds pretty good though.
iHaveFeelingsToo 4 years ago
I think the piano is a bit loud.this always seems to be a problem with duets.
brian777999 4 years ago
How long did it take for you to learn this? I'm working on this one as well .
Beastybassplayer 4 years ago
needs slower practise
germanbow71 4 years ago
very goood
sehonetkr 4 years ago
That sounds really good. What is it called?
cookiemonster1145234 4 years ago
its called the concierto in a major by dragonetti
musicboy516 4 years ago
it was actually written by eduard nanny
dextorgarfunkle 4 years ago
he's right. it is. good comment award!!
solobasso 4 years ago
well thats wierd wouldnt it be called the nanny concerto in a. did they just throw the dragonetti piece in thier cause it soundedd nice. or was it original works of dragonetti and nanny arranged . yeah im pretty sure it was that!!!
pricelesspistola321 4 years ago
eduard nanny wrote the piece for his freind, whatever dragonetti. nanny was not as good at bass as dragonetti
dextorgarfunkle 4 years ago
Your just making that up. Domenico Dragonetti died 26 years before Eduard Nanny was even born. Nanny was a famous french player and could easily play this concerto. He wrote it as a tribute to Dragonetti and wrote in in the classical style Dragonetti would have played.
Anddrew914 2 years ago
i made up the story because stories are awesome
dextorgarfunkle 2 years ago
Great job, Tyler! Congratulations on placing 4th at Oregon State Solo Competition (as a freshman)!
DoubleBassFan 4 years ago
Awesome job, musicboy516! You rock!
chazmare 4 years ago