@pokealong1227 Im pretty sure the guys from FFDP use this brand of guitar, M.T from Slipknot USED to but i guess, i personally wouldnt know, i havnt played one yet xD
i got the same guitar but the pickups were bc rich's instead of emg's. i let the pickups change in a shop. now there are kerry king's in and its tuned in drop C theyre great!
I love this guitar and its pretty strong i just drop it off the bed only a chip on the two horns on top and just scratches on back and i drop it on the front side with pick ups and all that :D but i was stupid to let it rest on my amp
hey everyone. does anyone know some good prices for one of these? i found one on ebay for just under 5 grand, excellent guitar, though that is asking a bit much if u ask me.
and dude. wow. your awesome at guitar, and i love the setup u have. awesome. wish i were that good.
unless its hand crafted with a fancy R at the top don't get it for that much.. I have one idenical to that guys for 500$ canadian, swapped the pickups to emga and got a setup for 95$.
love the BC rich warlock and warbeast and beast design but its too big for mny taste... and they dont make any GOTH series with satin black color... ill stick to epiphone Les Paul goth studio
you forget he is A he is testing his distorion B it sounds like random riffs plus i have i no clue why he is wearing ear plugs the picking is obvious and and the lackluster guitar rifss he is playing could be taught to any one in about a day alot of squeaks and bends oh your so metal turn it to drop see and lets hear some chords
drop d dumbass. and the earplugs is cuz hes in a closed off room with an amp that got retubed. and all the high notes hes hitting would prolly blow his ear drums cuz that amps obviously loud as fuck.
why do you have to look metalhead to actually be a metalhead. i myself do not like to associate myself with any style in particular in my gear and how i wear but still i would consider myself a metalhead and 100% aswell
poor davidmetal when his mom used a guitar as a dilso he was hit by it a came retarded calling people nerds crting in his bed asking himself"why am i a nerd"
ahh shit another fucking loser playing a sick guitar FUCK man go back to your play video games and you computer shit fucking neard just because you like the music that dose not mean you can play it!!!
@greenwingfanbase For sure. Whether or not people are "great" players it's always interesting to see what sounds and riffs they come up with. Everyone has a unique way of playing.
i have both and my experience with them is the warlock is more comfortable to sit down and play and its lighter..
so the beast is heavier harder to play sitting down .. but the floyd rose on this guys and the fact its louder acoustically make up for it.
if their the same pickups there really isnt much of a difference.. just depends on which shape you like more. Keep in mind hes using all kinds of stuff to create that tone though.
got a bc rich neck-thru beast couple of moths ago and really impressed with it, good 2 play standing but you will get a bruise on your right thigh. lol. pretty good playing, im sure that guitar will see u through to profession!!
If you really want to get the most out of that guitar then you have to invest in either a crate or a line 6 amp, those are the two complimenting amps for bc Rich like marshal for gibson kinda lol Trust me on that I have the 120 watt line 6 spider three with a few different pedals and sounds amazing with my BC Rich collection :D
Pinch harmonics. Bitch to get down but once you can they are easy. Pluck a note and kinda hit it with the side of your thumb as soon as you hit it. Basically it will make the string vibrate less.
Most easy done on the g string. Plucked right before the middle pick up.
have the pickups set to the bridge to make it easier. Use lots of distortion at first.
Your squealies are INSANE...the emgs help for better PH right? Your tone is sick As well...I used to despise the way the beast sounded AND look, but after seeing this video, and hearing your tone, I'm actually astounded.
can i just ask.. how do i get those really high pitched squeek notes? i could make a really heavy riff then just reply or messege me i just dont know how to do it
I am going to get a BC Rich SOB but I thought about getting the warbeast. The only problem is that there are no fret markers. Any advice from anybody? I also wanted the warbeast because the SOB only has one knob. This guitar is cool and has fret markers and everything but the comments on it at some online websites say that it is not a very good guitar. HELP PLEASE!!
For those of you who want to buy one: Good guitar for the price. They're really cheap and you get your money's worth...if you have enough sense to pick out a " good " one. If there's two guitars that " look " exact hanging on the wall, one of them will play better than the other. Also, it looks as though our little middle eastern friend here has upgraded the stock pickups which can be costly depending on the choice. It's well worth it though. Well played my man, very good stuff.
Omg i have that guitar in the same colour and i have the same strap LMAO.lol no1 is gonna belive me so im gonna have to post a video reply...i dnt have the pickup upgrades though.
Nah I didnt know at first either theyre called pinch harmonics if you wanna know how to do them and its easy just hold your pick so that only like 3 mm of the pick will pick the string then slightly touch the string with your thumb but fast
If you wanna get them perfect when you pick dont pick straightt down. kinda pick at an angle towards the bridge of the guitar that way it is easier to catch the string with ur thumb. bit hard to explain in a comment but hopefully this helps.
have you seen the bc rich draco? even though im bassplayer i want that guitar. neck thru and looks like a dragon... love bc rich stuff all the me(n)tal looks and great sound... own warlock nj bass with widow head (or cockroach as i like to call it..) you have excellent choice of guitars man!
its a BC rich "beast", a word of advice: don't buy that guitar unless your on a budget, or unless you plan to replace the pickups, the stock standards for bc rich suck big time. get a jackson or a dean (for metal) you can still buy cheapish deans and jacksons and get a quality guitar.
Your a pro mayne
adric555 7 months ago
Its cool but i think you are playing a bit too loud if u need earplugs at home
ichverdamischt 11 months ago
I love B.C. Rich. I have never had the pleasure of playing a Beast. Is the body Encumbersome?
Gregchilcott 1 year ago
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BassPlayerBedwell 4 months ago
Son...I AM PROUD
shephard089098 1 year ago 5
he is pro...
StefanSrb95 1 year ago
would you recommend this gutar?
i play metal like Five Finger Death Punch, Slipknot, Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, ect.
pokealong1227 1 year ago
@pokealong1227 i have one myself and i would recomend it although some people wouldnt be happy with the pickups
pho3nix 1 year ago
@pokealong1227 Im pretty sure the guys from FFDP use this brand of guitar, M.T from Slipknot USED to but i guess, i personally wouldnt know, i havnt played one yet xD
assphinktersaiswhat 1 year ago
@assphinktersaiswhat if MT did it was a LONG time ago, and it just really doesnt look to comfortable
pokealong1227 1 year ago
@pokealong1227 honestly wouldnt personally know, i would hold it differently so how this guy is doing it but i guess its all personal preference.
I am keen to try one soon.
assphinktersaiswhat 1 year ago
this guy is good!!!!!
flipedup 1 year ago
yea ur pretty good but i think this guitar is a little much for you especially with the earplugs
gearsofwar4ever426 1 year ago
This video is full of nerds, including me
ticosexy22 1 year ago
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ticosexy22 1 year ago
I want one of these so bad :D
guitargod66six 1 year ago 3
is this guitar a neck thru and how is the sustain?
yakanato 1 year ago
omfg i love the first few harmonics you played
kylerguitarist 1 year ago
i got the same guitar but the pickups were bc rich's instead of emg's. i let the pickups change in a shop. now there are kerry king's in and its tuned in drop C theyre great!
BobBriessinck 1 year ago
are those EMGs bro? Im thinking about getting some..
wisesatyr72 1 year ago
All the music experts are gathered on this comment page.
Jimlead 1 year ago
even tho you messed up on lil parts i still enjoyed this very much good job man
X1xFATMANx1X 1 year ago
Lol great :D
I love this guitar and its pretty strong i just drop it off the bed only a chip on the two horns on top and just scratches on back and i drop it on the front side with pick ups and all that :D but i was stupid to let it rest on my amp
tennisnewbie121 1 year ago
Pretty good. Think Major scales would be better for that guitar though
shauncobra 1 year ago
wholy fuck, amazing solos!!! dudei it literately gave me chills and brought tears to my eyes
muncy333 1 year ago
would you recomend this or the warlock?
360rjm 1 year ago
I have a B.C. Rich Platinum Beast pro and I got mine on ebay for only $300 a verrryy nice guitar
btw nice video man good job :)
acw346 2 years ago
i just got mine for 400, same kind :-)
Rwag69 2 years ago
hey everyone. does anyone know some good prices for one of these? i found one on ebay for just under 5 grand, excellent guitar, though that is asking a bit much if u ask me.
and dude. wow. your awesome at guitar, and i love the setup u have. awesome. wish i were that good.
tommelling22 2 years ago
unless its hand crafted with a fancy R at the top don't get it for that much.. I have one idenical to that guys for 500$ canadian, swapped the pickups to emga and got a setup for 95$.
JYZProductions 2 years ago
q asco wn te sigo disiendo, eri una mierda wn como tanta guitarra pa tal payaso
ql mierda y no savi tocar wn, comprate una de juguete y tiray mas pinta wn pao.
fuck you men you don´t need this guitar, this guitar is for gods not for you
Carbnal 2 years ago
@Carbnal Man, who you think you are? if you like that guitar, get a fucking job and buy it.
There are no guitars for gods, there are guitars you can or can't afford. If he earns his money, who the fuck are you to say "you don't deserve it"?
wanker
agnellone 2 years ago 2
isnt that an aswome guitar i have a beast myself ......it was good just work on smoothness and time
arcaniondeath666 2 years ago
at the very beginning, i wanna learn that
flyingVshreder 2 years ago
oh god his wah pedaling is terrible!!
XanderPrime 2 years ago
love the BC rich warlock and warbeast and beast design but its too big for mny taste... and they dont make any GOTH series with satin black color... ill stick to epiphone Les Paul goth studio
xtruma 2 years ago
what are other peoples opinion and experiences with a emg 85 in the bridge and a 81 in the neck??
kaleluk31 2 years ago
@kaleluk31
its pretty cool, you can do many sounds and songs like the ones this guy is making plus more like enter the sand to songs like blvd of broken dreams
vincentallen2 2 years ago
you forget he is A he is testing his distorion B it sounds like random riffs plus i have i no clue why he is wearing ear plugs the picking is obvious and and the lackluster guitar rifss he is playing could be taught to any one in about a day alot of squeaks and bends oh your so metal turn it to drop see and lets hear some chords
jumanjifro 2 years ago
drop d dumbass. and the earplugs is cuz hes in a closed off room with an amp that got retubed. and all the high notes hes hitting would prolly blow his ear drums cuz that amps obviously loud as fuck.
iBuRzT 2 years ago
get a fucking life. limp dick
jumanjifro 2 years ago
dude i love ur song plz can u tab it out for me ?
Ryanhhy 2 years ago
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man this suckss....whtever this guy is playn sounds like shit
mik677772 2 years ago
wow i remeber watching this video like 2 years ago when i was a guitar noob and i thought this guy was amazing!! now he kinda sucks!
EMG801 2 years ago
Exact same thing here
nozic11111 2 years ago
i thought the same thing
TheInnsmouthShadow 2 years ago
wow what is the first song he plays? i want to learn it badly)
9Nick2 2 years ago
'i myself do not like to associate myself with any style in particular'
there
you just answered your own question
AvyScottandFlower 2 years ago
Why is this guy wearing ear plugs? I can hear his picking..What the fuck....
Nickpatient 2 years ago
i got the same strap on my warlock
meroloc 2 years ago
yeah got that too......and it sucks it badly xD
gistring 2 years ago
Fuck every body you got skills!!!
theunknown48 2 years ago
NERD!!!!!!!!!!
ALTIUSTENDO 2 years ago
I would impale this jewish nerd with the axe up his jew 'axe'
I have a black one like this but I am 100% metalhead!!
..not a concentration camp survivor! LMAO
AvyScottandFlower 2 years ago
why do you have to look metalhead to actually be a metalhead. i myself do not like to associate myself with any style in particular in my gear and how i wear but still i would consider myself a metalhead and 100% aswell
Raxmole 2 years ago
poor davidmetal when his mom used a guitar as a dilso he was hit by it a came retarded calling people nerds crting in his bed asking himself"why am i a nerd"
michaelofdeath96 2 years ago
LOL GOT YOU i knew you would correct me!!! NERD!!!
davidmetal123456 2 years ago
what's wrong with his playing? OO""
TiberiumSoldier 2 years ago
ahh shit another fucking loser playing a sick guitar FUCK man go back to your play video games and you computer shit fucking neard just because you like the music that dose not mean you can play it!!!
davidmetal123456 2 years ago
i beleave its spelt nerd.....
celebrityjim 2 years ago
Good job. I like the BC Rich WarBeast.
SYSTEMofTheDISTURBED 2 years ago
I didn't know glasses made people a nerd...oh wait, it doesn't.
dave5766 2 years ago
i gurantee this kid wears glasses too. lmfao.
Christopherwilder47 2 years ago
i love listening to people play
greenwingfanbase 2 years ago 15
@greenwingfanbase For sure. Whether or not people are "great" players it's always interesting to see what sounds and riffs they come up with. Everyone has a unique way of playing.
robotsforever 1 year ago
all of u shut up this guy is so kl
Ryanhhy 2 years ago 18
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look at his glasses wtf lol lmfao rofl
devellssun666 2 years ago
nerd rage death metal bitches!!!!!
CappedInTheHead 2 years ago
wait remind me why he's a nerd?
wolfeman85 2 years ago
i prefer the B.C Rich Mocking Bird
i have a Bronze Edition Mocking Bird and its amazing
hooplaKID 2 years ago
If a bronze edition is amazing,how its a supreme custom shop mockinbird?
gifenrich 2 years ago
hey wat songs this ? nice playing
how u do ur armonics ?
diepie22 2 years ago
is a b.c. warlock better or worse than a beast?
rhcpfan143 2 years ago
i have both and my experience with them is the warlock is more comfortable to sit down and play and its lighter..
so the beast is heavier harder to play sitting down .. but the floyd rose on this guys and the fact its louder acoustically make up for it.
if their the same pickups there really isnt much of a difference.. just depends on which shape you like more. Keep in mind hes using all kinds of stuff to create that tone though.
JYZProductions 2 years ago
what song is this?
mmafighter2354 2 years ago
this sounds pretty cool, but u need to crank it out and shred! i wanna hear something HEAVY outta that thing
demizeYARMON 2 years ago
tald you man BC RICH best guitars it's rock anyway
tkhrmiz2010 2 years ago
=D whats amp use you???
marshall???
juanceeto98 2 years ago
kool riff
sk8hard900 2 years ago
90% of guitarists are bassists are just awsome and are all cool and dont make fun of even the worst covers
utuber351 2 years ago
Yeah well im really critical. about everything..
utuber351 2 years ago
dude, love the harmonics at the beginning
☻
garrison288 2 years ago
got a bc rich neck-thru beast couple of moths ago and really impressed with it, good 2 play standing but you will get a bruise on your right thigh. lol. pretty good playing, im sure that guitar will see u through to profession!!
tommhurst 2 years ago 3
You should re do this you played better in you're esp and warlock video's
utuber351 2 years ago
Awesome Guitar skills!!! How long have you been playing?
Also...Would you advise me to buy a B.C. Rich NT Beast TBK ?
Response apreciated,
Cheers
darkprofane 2 years ago 3
You consider this awesome skills?
utuber351 2 years ago
Thats what I was thinking
grade456 2 years ago 2
wtf is wrong with you seriously?
kevorules01 2 years ago
I just simply pointed out he played alot better in his other video's amd this is medocre
utuber351 2 years ago
Dude what tuning where you in? and plz write me tabs or send me tabs please man
lamboffod 2 years ago 2
nice effects...
CLAYDUDES1 3 years ago 2
damn thos harmonics kick ass
ZRGORB 3 years ago 2
L2Read info "Amp is a carvin mts just retubed with 4 E34Ls and 5 AX7s."
alcoholiday93 3 years ago 2
are you using a Marshall?, hate there distortion, it sucks :L
scudy4 3 years ago
you'll have to play a lot better than that with that thing of beauty my friend
ApErSoN666 3 years ago 2
And at some point this got annoying coz of the"wah wah"
saedt 3 years ago
This is a lot better than the other "test" vid
saedt 3 years ago
srry i didnt see that youve wrote it in the info...
LPBFMVA7x 3 years ago
wich AMP do you use???
LPBFMVA7x 3 years ago
Sounds like you were trying to write a symphony
Dante31 3 years ago
anyone selling a bc rich guitar?
themetalband 3 years ago
There are quite a few of them on ebay if you want to get it from someone and not a store.
Dante31 3 years ago
If you really want to get the most out of that guitar then you have to invest in either a crate or a line 6 amp, those are the two complimenting amps for bc Rich like marshal for gibson kinda lol Trust me on that I have the 120 watt line 6 spider three with a few different pedals and sounds amazing with my BC Rich collection :D
BEKrustie 3 years ago
irado !
Alysson1000 3 years ago
how much is it?
superale92 3 years ago
what song is this ?
sk8hard900 3 years ago
His own composition :P
synysterdemon 3 years ago
its tight
LKDlynrdskynhead 3 years ago
wow nice. i like it
JESSVL84 3 years ago
I didn't expect anything like that great job man! especially in the first half.
im buying the same guitar this week I can't wait.
JYZProductions 3 years ago
Td say a 24 fret
jimchippington 3 years ago
chears m8 thats what il do.
ohh and tidy red !!!
thanks !
jimchippington 3 years ago
what wud u class it ass 24 or a 25 fret?
meowman94 3 years ago
24 fret
TheAceOfSpades92 3 years ago
is that the NT beast?
coz i dont know what 2 get ?
the NT
the AVENGE
or the WMD ?
HELP ME !!! PLEASE
jimchippington 3 years ago
i wud say if u have the money by the wmd if not get the regualar avenge
meowman94 3 years ago
WMD!!
kiellandiskool 3 years ago
Oh earplugs... hardcore :P
JackSlicerProduction 3 years ago
That is an awesome guitar ;D
Want one in black, but red is cool as well :D
haha :D
wrath687 3 years ago
the harmonic intro is awsome
drummerstar1190 3 years ago
nice guitar isn´t it?
elekttrik 3 years ago 7
sorry, i accidentally pressed thumbs down not up, sorry =(
tdbf2142 3 years ago
Pinch harmonics. Bitch to get down but once you can they are easy. Pluck a note and kinda hit it with the side of your thumb as soon as you hit it. Basically it will make the string vibrate less.
Most easy done on the g string. Plucked right before the middle pick up.
have the pickups set to the bridge to make it easier. Use lots of distortion at first.
And sorry if that didn't help.
Bubbles516 3 years ago
Where can you find a guitar like that? It sounds great.
ObnoxiousBullet 3 years ago
i got one at guitarcenter the other day, but with some different pickups, and in black
me128166 3 years ago
Thanks :)
ObnoxiousBullet 3 years ago
how much does that one cost
jakedemmer 3 years ago
they go from $100 to $3000
ffaking333 3 years ago
Your squealies are INSANE...the emgs help for better PH right? Your tone is sick As well...I used to despise the way the beast sounded AND look, but after seeing this video, and hearing your tone, I'm actually astounded.
PayasoLocaso 3 years ago
can i just ask.. how do i get those really high pitched squeek notes? i could make a really heavy riff then just reply or messege me i just dont know how to do it
123Bulletcrazy123 3 years ago 7
without goin on top e on the last fret
123Bulletcrazy123 3 years ago
pinch harmonics
georgenicale 3 years ago 3
natural harmonics or pinch harmonics
Grimreaperguitarist 3 years ago
I am going to get a BC Rich SOB but I thought about getting the warbeast. The only problem is that there are no fret markers. Any advice from anybody? I also wanted the warbeast because the SOB only has one knob. This guitar is cool and has fret markers and everything but the comments on it at some online websites say that it is not a very good guitar. HELP PLEASE!!
smartypan227 3 years ago
I just baought an amp for ma BC Rick Virgin
jago707 3 years ago
the first part with intro is great but later it gets a bit borring >.>
TheGodheadMetallica 3 years ago
can u send me uid=3035611...
1323725...
Slipknot15969 3 years ago
noise gate!!!!
Slipknot15969 3 years ago
can u send me the tab for that song it sounds so awesome!!!!
Ollieshaz 3 years ago
check my video out i have a green BC Rich Beast
petpillow 3 years ago
For those of you who want to buy one: Good guitar for the price. They're really cheap and you get your money's worth...if you have enough sense to pick out a " good " one. If there's two guitars that " look " exact hanging on the wall, one of them will play better than the other. Also, it looks as though our little middle eastern friend here has upgraded the stock pickups which can be costly depending on the choice. It's well worth it though. Well played my man, very good stuff.
slaughterspecialist 3 years ago 3
how long have u been playin??.. damn..
Korzahn 3 years ago 3
dude that shit sounds wicked, i have the exact same guitar and pickups, whats that your playing in the intro?
beastmp11 3 years ago 2
somebody i know has a black warlock it is so friken awsome
Dgfer09 3 years ago
its not a warlock its a beast
boomr23 3 years ago
Omg i have that guitar in the same colour and i have the same strap LMAO.lol no1 is gonna belive me so im gonna have to post a video reply...i dnt have the pickup upgrades though.
Blinx56 3 years ago
omg i'm in love with that guitar!!! i'm buying one.. i hope soon >_> damn money... everything should be cheaper, btw nice skills :P
n3kc0 3 years ago 2
wait where did my comment go
LedRoseShredder 3 years ago
to hell :O fun for her <.<
MojajaDude 3 years ago
Nice guitar.. nice playing.. how much did you pay for that.. im wanna get a new guitar
MalleusMalefactum 3 years ago
tienes guitarrass muy metaleras
pero noo concuerdan con tu genero
LordBael 3 years ago
BloodylipKaze, Thank You Very Much.
I'll Try That. :-)
Odinsgade 3 years ago
odinsgade, just the opposite you barely touch the string and it screams, then grab it and pull. It's called pinch harmonics.
BloodylipKaze 3 years ago
Hey Dude...!
Nice Playing!
I Have A Question: How Do You Make Thoose Scream Sounds On A Guitar? 00:09 - 00:10
Do You Press Down The Strings So Hard That They Comes With A Different Sound? : -)
Odinsgade 3 years ago
i wanna know the answer to this also lol.
ppl r gonna think we'r huge noobs
MariosGuy 3 years ago
Nah I didnt know at first either theyre called pinch harmonics if you wanna know how to do them and its easy just hold your pick so that only like 3 mm of the pick will pick the string then slightly touch the string with your thumb but fast
LedRoseShredder 3 years ago
thanks dude i had found out :p but i havnt tried them yet i bet they are hard to get down.
MariosGuy 3 years ago
Well kinda but you get used to it Im practicing them I barely knew how to do them yesterday so yeah
LedRoseShredder 3 years ago
If you wanna get them perfect when you pick dont pick straightt down. kinda pick at an angle towards the bridge of the guitar that way it is easier to catch the string with ur thumb. bit hard to explain in a comment but hopefully this helps.
Blinx56 3 years ago 2
oops nvm didnt see bloodykazes comment quess he was more helpful than me
LedRoseShredder 3 years ago
awesome what kind of pickups u got
MariosGuy 3 years ago
I'd rather go on feeling than measuring out 3 millimeters each time i'd like to do a pinch harmonic.
paddan91 3 years ago 3
I took that from some video, of course you wont measure out 3 millimeters. You get used to holding a pick for pinch harmonic, I did.
LedRoseShredder 3 years ago 3
Me too ^^ The shred academy, right? :D
paddan91 3 years ago
they're called pinch harmonics (also called artificial harmonics or squeelies) search for it
ruben12321 3 years ago
man you are the best !!!
kornelo 3 years ago
Do u now where i can buy a whammy bar to BC rich Warlock BK Bronze ||??
xxxYeaYxxx 4 years ago
have you seen the bc rich draco? even though im bassplayer i want that guitar. neck thru and looks like a dragon... love bc rich stuff all the me(n)tal looks and great sound... own warlock nj bass with widow head (or cockroach as i like to call it..) you have excellent choice of guitars man!
spaceofmysteries 4 years ago
the first thing he played was frm road runner united ..its called the end..but he sorta changed it..
XbleedingtofilthX 4 years ago
that is definately the devils guitar
its gnarly man im saving up to buy and customize a beast with either emgs or seymore duncans
GirlwearingLakais24 4 years ago
Bronze series SUCK. Nice guitar and playing dude!
SkidRoses98 4 years ago 3
what song or intro is that? ( at the beggining )
HaxXx1 4 years ago
what model guitar is that? i am looking into buying a new guitar and i have a feeling this wouldnt be bad :P
HaxXx1 4 years ago
its a BC rich "beast", a word of advice: don't buy that guitar unless your on a budget, or unless you plan to replace the pickups, the stock standards for bc rich suck big time. get a jackson or a dean (for metal) you can still buy cheapish deans and jacksons and get a quality guitar.
illblanca 4 years ago
if youre looking into getting a new guitar, i'd look into jackson, ibanez and dean as well as b.c., they all make nice mid-range guitars
donkeypunch22494 4 years ago