@DracoPilamZ I think you're stupid to even say that, it just allows people in power to disclude whoever they want, 'i don't want black people to work in my factory so i don't have to employ them etc.' Anti discrimination laws are neccasary to protect minorities and give them equal opportunity. Same applies to education, do we make education a service? I hope not. What right does someone have to property over someone else, because they were born with it? What constitutes a right?
He's trying to coerce others into countenancing his racism by employing ambiguity to such an extent that the close-minded many may actually believe him. He seems to not be able to recognise that without the Civil Rights Act there wouldn't be a shred of equality for black people in the US. He pertains to believe in freedom for all- libertarianism should be unconditional- yet without the removal of social injustica there can be no freedom, only a spurious delusion.
Ron Paul assumes the best in everyone. It's nice, it's a nice ideal, but it's not the case. Give people the chance to be corrupt, and some of them will.
@Gremmie4 If businesses started denying people business on the basis of their race, everyone would boycott them except perhaps a small handful. It's not really naive idealism as much as just a healthy realization of where people are at, and what effect the idea of liberty and natural rights has. Once people realize they're free and truly free, they want to give it away. This is why blacks started getting more respect after the constitution was written and many of them were liberated in the north
@Gremmie4 Well people often look extreme when they're not trying to pander to everyone or tickle their ears. The truth is often hard to hear... for those who have something to lose.
@heartrocketblast Got nothin' to lose and plenty to gain with the right guy in office, I just don't think RP is the one. Simple as that. We're not going to change each other's minds, so let's just agree to disagree on this one. :)
He wasn't against the civil rights act because of race, but because the government got involved in a shop owner's right to choose who could and couldn't go into their store.
If you look at the big picture, he wants the people to be able to run their property, bodies, and lives how they want. Come on people....
@18elana Bye, I'm not wasting my time with Ron Paul supporters, he's never gonna become President anyway, and Paul is a millionaire so why does he need people to make donations to him for his campaign ? Ron Paul does not care about the working man.
@777Atheist he needs donations because he doesn't take money from big corporations for his campaign, unlike the others. he practices what he preaches. you think the other candidates are throwing all their personal money into the election? ha. but i'm not going to waste my time on someone ignorant and uninformed. so, bye
@18elana Learn how to spell, then we'll talk, you're illiterate, it's no wonder you Paulites are so against public education and want to Privatize our Schools, Ron Paul will never be President anyways, haha .
@18elana Well, I think you need to read your sentence again, you did not capitalize any word at the beginning of your sentences,ha is not a complete sentence, yeah I made a mistake. You made 6 mistakes, dumbass.
@777Atheist wow ok. well first off, not capitalizing a word is not misspelling it. second, i don't give a fuck. this is the internet. third, you made your entire comment one sentence and you capitalized "privatize, schools, president". good try though
The guy's just twisting his words, he's campaigned against racism. I hope he wins not only for the freedom thing, but he's also said he's pro Palestine which sealed the deal for me. Ron Paul for president
Ron Paul is an idiot. A successful country needs a balance of libertarian values and some form of government control to maintain the crazies and bring a set of order into the world. I mean Ron Paul just wants to make everything like the Caveman eras--no rules and regulation. Just do whatever you want. Life isn't a game like Fable Lost Chapters.
I'm glad no one's donating nearly enough money to this guy as they are to Mitt and Obama.
@DaNewLeder You are being ignorant, he wants SMALL government, which is very different of not having any government at all, it's how the founding fathers wanted: a limited government. He is not an anarchist! And by the way, the corrupted corporations are the ones that are donating to Mitt and Obama, both are whores of establishment. Ron Paul is the only one anti-establishment and anti-war.
Well, there you go. Then it's "The People" who own it. And I imagine basic equality laws would be agreed on, on a state to state basis, since all peoples would be in all states.
So Mr. Paul displays that he understands an act probably better than any news anchor and every politician in office today, and somehow it's twisted into him being a racist? Good job morons.
@sweetheart2109 We shouldn't assume that people can't change. Likewise we shouldn't assume that just because the law was able to legislate morality in one instance of history and for a very small portion of Southerners that it is a panacea for the woes that the country is facing today. Does that make sense?
@sweetheart2109 To say that "if Civil Rights Legislation is repealed, then people will go back to being racist" is to assume that people's attitudes haven't changed, and that the offspring of old Jim Crow generations (that by this time many have died) aren't able to change either. In fact, my grandfather's side of the family was quite racist and in favor of Jim Crow policies, but I am strictly opposed to them.
@sweetheart2109 What I'm getting at is that the attempts at repealing Jim Crow were effective in some instances at changing initial attitudes, but since then MOST people have adopted a more colorblind approach and understanding of the necessity of all peoples interacting in an economy
@sweetheart2109 By the same token, if you believe that the federal attempts at repealing racism in American communities has been completely effective, then you should consider the counter evidence presented by "Sundown towns" (sundown.afro.illinois.edu/sundowntowns.php) and Texas in its entirety.
@sweetheart2109 Be honest with yourself: Is the only thing that keeps communities from being racist the law? I don't think so. Sure, initially Jim Crow laws were repealed because of legislation passed by the federal government. But to assume that the changes that these people (in previously Jim Crow communities) have undergone are ephemeral in their effect on behaviors and attitude means that you are probably missing something.
@piratesmvp Oh but we do. That's the problem with democracy. It's the best opportunity for the people to get what they want. But what if a majority of the people are idiots? What a majority of the people believe everything that the two-party system wants them to believe?
@piratesmvp What if the majority of the Republican party are Southern evangelical Christians that can't remove themselves from their indoctrinated, dogmatic euphoria and war-mongering nature? What if the majority of liberals believe that the only way for society to function is to have a State that tells them how to live their lives and provide everything for them?
@piratesmvp How do you combat ignorant idiocy, dogma, and orthodoxy that's been ingrained into people for decades? What do the informed, educated minority do to direct society from its wayward path? Once we can answer that question, we can have total freedom that works, and a Constitution that is respected.
@piratesmvp But you and I have to find the solution for idiocy first. You and I have to find a way to destabilize the big-government controlled media's hold on American minds. That, my friend, is a doozie.
CHRIS MATTHEWS! SHUT THE GODDANE HECK UP! AND LET YOUR GUEST FINISH TALKING. YOU TRYING TO TALK OVER YOUR GUEST IS FRICKEN RUDE AND ANNOYING< THAT IS WHY NO ONE WATCHES YOUR STUPID SHOW! I STOPPED CAUSE OF THIS VERY REASON!
CHRIS MATTHEWS! SHUT THE GODDANE HELL UP! AND LET YOUR GUEST FINISH TALKING. YOU TRYING TO TALK OVER YOUR GUEST IS FRICKEN RUDE AND ANNOYING< THAT IS WHY NO ONE WATCHES YOUR STUPID SHOW! I STOPPED CAUSE OF THIS VERY REASON!
Freedom?? Freedom to choose??? He is anti women rights and gay rights!!!!!! just an fyi folks!!!! he wants laws kept on them...not allowing them to make choices!!!!!! duh folks!!
@petiteAlicious anti-women rights? Just another way of saying anti-abortion, which consequently is anti-infanticide. Is it really to much ask to have laws that prevent people from murdering their own children?
This is why I cannot vote for Ron Paul under ANY circumstance.
As a person of color, I find it hilarious that he thinks it is Constitutional to discriminate based on skin pigmentation. Property rights my arse, he knows what he's doing.
@amitbarfs Actually I agree with Paul. Im a black man, and I hate racism in any direction of any kind. And believe it or not, forcing racist people to serve other races just makes them mad. I'd rather know who those racist pricks are so that I never give their business a dime. If the laws are there, they have to be closet racists and I'll end up giving a person money who will be calling me the n word as soon as I walk out the door.
Fair enough, but my problem with Dr Paul is that he thought your type of principled libertarianism was good enough for communities of color in 1964, when you know it just wasn't so.
For someone who was around in 1964, Paul should know better. The thing is, I think he does, and just as the opposite view a libertarian should have, which is to extend freedom to minorities.
@amitbarfs he said jim crow laws were unjust, which they were. but no one has a right to tell you not to discriminate on your own property. sorry. that's what we have to accept in a free society.
@Owunthrizzel As a black woman, I agree with what you said above BUT...........JIM CROW LAWS were OUTED because the CIVIL RIGHTS BILL. To get rid of this bill would enable JIM CROW LAWS TO BE REINSTATED! Now that's very serious and I'm not about seeing our brothers dangle from trees again cause a bunch of VERY ILL-INFORMED white people are pissed off at OBAMA (his black side that is, lol). This man Ron Paul will make what Obama is doing, a tea and cupcake party, STALIN for sure, people wake up!
@skaismith I doubt that you would find many communities who would seriously try to reinstate jim crow laws. Now the middle of the country probably would, but there arent many minorities there anyway. And they would have their businesses be crucified by the media, but honestly I doubt that type of racism is as big of an issue. We need to worry about the justice system and the education desparity more than a racist store clerk.
@Owunthrizzel I know that there is sooooo very much going on in this country for us to worry about, I don't trust this Ron Paul, he will not deliver us (all americans) but literallu CRUCIFY US ALL! All Presidents since JFK have been SELECTED NOT ELECTED!
@skaismith Outside of the Civil Rights thing, what makes him untrustworthy? He's one of the few politicians I've heard that seriously wants to get us out of the rut we are currently in. Everyone else is content to stay the course even when the economy clearly isnt working and we create bubble after bubble. But Id like to know what Paul does that bothers you so much.
@skaismith Jim Crow was established by the government. "Brothers dangling from trees" was illegal regardless of Jim Crow. Its not even a remote possibility that this could happen. What is possible, however, is that young black males will continue to have their lives ruined by the "justice system". A small minority (and I mean minority) of racists doesn't justify sweeping laws that undermine -all- of our liberties, no matter how well-intentioned.
@VictoryInTruth True what you have said too, I'm just worried about the bigger picture here. this is just one of the main policies I do NOT agree with, that's all :-)
@skaismith You keep saying he's scary, I don't understand though. Most people who like Ron Paul hate racists with a passion. He is running to end the wars, prevent new ones, repeal laws that allow the government to spy and KILL us without a trial. and some people get hung up over the 1964 civil rights act. These are all political tactics. Yes, he's not going to "deliver" us, nobody is going to deliver us. It requires us to be vigilant. Freedom is not free, and Ron Paul's campaign has been tough.
How is he against legalizing abortion if he believes in the whole "Making it illegal doesn't help" thing? The same goes for abortion.... if you make it illegal, women are going to do it anyway, except there will be more back alley abortions and self-induced abortions. Not really consistent here..
If a father does heroin and hurts his son THAT IS WHEN THE STATE SHOULD STEP IN. If a father does heroin treats his son well and is one day thrown in prison (leaving the son with out a father) that is true evil!
HE COULD HAVE MADE A GOOD ARGUEMENT AGAINST AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, BUT THE 1964 cIVIL RIGHTS ACT WAS NEEDED AND IT WASN'T UNCONSTITUTIONAL...THIS GUY KNOWS NOT WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT AS USUAL.
@GregariousGorilla I agree with you. Still will support Ron Paul over any of the other guys. But it seems like hes saying that Property Right are more important then Civil rights. No one is going to go backwards, but its just leaves me confused.
Paul is nuts! If he had his way, hotels and restaurants and the like could once again turn people away because of their race or religion. American should never go back to those horrible days.
@1kkyu Paul is consistant with what he believes. I can't say I agree with everything that he says, but there is a flaw with your statement. Who would honestly turn away minorities even if Paul "had his way"? If I owned a hotel or restaurant I would certainly not turn away paying customers because of their skin color. Today, people are more educated on how everyone is equal. Paul is making the point that small business owners should be free most gov. regulation and that they should have choice
@cmtuckerman I have absolutely no doubt that many businesses, if given the choice, would turn away various people because of their race or religion. I think it's great that you (and others like you) would not turn away people because of their skin color. But racism and anti-Semitism is still common in the U.S. and allowing for "private discrimination" would be a formula for disaster.
Ron Paul is suggesting these freedoms be under state supervision on a more local level, this is a hypothetical situation which would only happen after restructuring. Matthews makes it sound like Paul wants to do it immediately. Either way, we've been in a state of emergency since 1995 so the argument of civil liberties is null and void, there are none.
The civil rights act outlawed these discriminatory practices by property owners and operators of public facilities. It was because of government involvement not despite it that the practice is as Ron Paul says, "Ancient history." Repeal this important legislation and there will indeed be a return to de jure segregation.
Yes, the federal gov is screwed up, but it is made up of Senators and Representatives from the individual states. Some override the decisions of others. And I'm glad. Yes the right was given to African Americans to vote, but federal troops had to be called in to enforce that right in the south, or has everyone forgotten that?
I'm 28 years old. I'm from the south. I remember riding my bike past a barbershop that still had a whites only sign by the barber pole when I was a kid. This is not ancient history. This was the 80's early 90's. There are still places in the south a young black man knows not to go near at all if possible, and not alone if you have to. Places where actually doing research and being well informed mean you are "trying to sound white." I left and haven't gone back. Either he is misinformed...
@steviepanties matthews is a good interviewer- he had questions he didn't know the answer to and ron paul gave them to him.. of course he's going to come out with the extreme questions to keep the interviewee on their toes- the point of his show is to do that (i.e. hardball).. UNLIKE bill o'riley and most people on fox, matthews is willing to be swayed if you give him a good answer, which in my opinion he was swayed in this interview
I am tired of people failing to understand Ron Paul's views regarding the Civil Rights Act. Believing the Civil Rights Act was unnecessary doesn't make an individual racist. He believed we should have deemed laws that institutionalized racism as unconstitutional. Not slap an act on top of the problem. That is very pro-Civil Rights!!!! =) ♥ ya Dr. Paul!
@DefinePrivacy The original constitution was fine with slavery, actually. The US was built on institutionalized racism. What makes the US great is that it changed. But if you repeal the laws that made those changes... the act was needed to actually cancel out earlier provisions in the constitution which maintained the constitution's original form, which was white supremacist.
@ChaosImperial Yes, but these comments are referring to the Civil Rights Act of the 1960s, not the 1800s. So, I am not sure how your statement is relevant. By the 1960s the constitution (14th Amendment) contained an Equal Protection Clause which would have deemed Jim Crow laws as unconstitutional. This is why Ron Paul would have been against the Civil Rights Act because we already had clauses in our amended constitution that would deem racist practices as unconstitutional.
@ChaosImperial Equal Protection Clause resulted in the dismantling of racial segregation in the United States. That clause in itself was enough for the Supreme Court to deem any law that institutionalized racism as unconstitutional. The Civil Rights Act was unnecessary. However, I am not at all opposed to it. Just saying the courts already had the "ammo" to fight racism.
Matthews: "I understand libertarianism... total freedom doesn't seem to work." Then he tries to use emotional arguments to make the viewer FEEL they need the government to protect them. I'll use my own money to protect myself and my home (my neighborhood, my city, my state, my country, and everyone around me) better than a bunch of bureaucrats ever could.
@jrock6467 Desegregation was a FORCED thing. [[The cops came to your playhouse and FORCED you against your will to let a person with no hands sit on ur chair. Where as, your mom should have taught you from birth. Child, do not be afraid of people with no hands. He can’t help that. It is ok to let him sit on the chair. Get over it and let him it there.]] ♥ RON PAUL ♥
@jrock6467 Where our forefathers went wrong was…. Instead of ‘forcing’ U 2 allow people with violet eyes 2 drink from UR glass. They should have educated you. Child, YOU are wrong! You should not be upset that person has violet eyes. That is ok we are all different. U should not freak out about them sitting next to you on the bus JUST because they have violet eyes either. They have a right to be there as much as you do. Deal with it!
CM: Not saying you are racist…I am saying the laws are racist!
RP: Segregation on busses was done by laws.
CM: ?Know why people like you? They want to live in a simpler society…..
RP: We have a totalitarian world. I want 2 legalize freedom. We will be better off with our freedom and not gov control of our personal lives, policing & running the economy.”
CM: “I love ur foreign policy. Don’t get me wrong. I love your foreign policy.”
All the extreme-wing media are the same, i.e. raving one-sided partisan assholes who use junk-logic and thug-tactics.just to get ratings, rather than any standards or integrity.
@sambam2694 he's saying the bill was unnecessary. Essentially what he is implying is that over time the demand of goods, services, and in this case people would be high enough to increase the supply of ways to people work with them. Stores would lose money if they did that today. Consider the early prohibition of snowboards from a ski resort. The supply and use of snowboards went up over time and the best way for these ski resort to make money was to allow them onto their grounds.
@sambam2694 You have to understand friend. The media is spinning him. Its a set up. You fluster them with accusations in cause their emotions to rise, then you make connections that are superficial or non-existent. This irritates them more. Never let them to catch up. What Ron Paul is saying that he wouldn't have voted for because you give power to the government by voting away our freedoms which we don't get back. For instance you don't need laws like that now days or most
@sambam2694 False. The Civil Rights Act was simply a "decorative" act, in my opinion. The amended constitution by the 1960s contained enough laws to deem racist practices as unconstitutional.
He should shut the fuck up and let paul finish his thought. Mathews is famous for interrupting his guests. that is why i can't even watch or listen to his stupid ass show
If that person wants to be a racist let it be its only going to come back to them by society not liking that person and eventually he will be homeless or hated by everyone so its more of a social issue not a goverment issue psshh if anyof yall were president beside ron paul i would definetaly move to canida
I agree with property rights, but, under the 14th Amendment, we all have a right to life, liberty, property, due process of the law, and equal protection under the law. Discrimination against non-criminal individuals for their race, national origin, gender, or sexual orientation should all be illegal. If this were 1950 and it was a libertarian society, I absolutely believe racism would still run rampant. My god, our country enslaved black people! Ron's awesome, but he has to recognize the 14th.
@Volt35 false. the 14th amendment "prohibits state and local governments from depriving persons of life, liberty, or property" -- one can choose not to do business with a racist business owner. That's what freedom is all about. However, the government cannot discriminate but individuals can (foolishly), which is protected under the First Amendment.
@scarecrowhcn I see your point. But in the past, Congress has used the Inter-state Commerce Clause to regulate discriminatory businesses on the basis that they substantially affected the economy. This, however, is not the ideal way to deal with discrimination.
He made a good point comparing drug abuse to alcohol abuse.
It took me awhile to understand Ron Paul's stance on discrimination.
Basically, he says that people have the right to do business with whomever they wish to, and that government can not discriminate based on race, religion, sex, etc.
The 1964 civil rights act is a great law, but it went too far when it infringed on personal property rights, and the freedom of association.
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Ron Paul's really lacks common sense. I mean he actually thinks he can fight for the rights of bigots and racists to discriminate and still win a presidential election. LMAO He has no chance! Enjoy your retirement Ronny! :D
@ViciousOneWon your the man viscious one, You absolutely right.. A "racist" has no rights, nobody should fight for their rights, their not even human beings. It is just common sense. People who drive S.U.V'S are not people either, we should take away all of their rights also, Sucking gas, poluting, degenerates. Please tell me who the people are who deserve protection from the bill of rights, I forgot....
@TIGERSDFW If u believe those things then thats ur right. I believe the American people dont support discrimination based on race, sex, religion, color, and national origin. Our laws prove it. If a candidate does not support the beliefs of the American people, that candidate wont win. Ron Paul is proof of that.
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Ron Paul's Libertarianism, while a laudable goal, requires that everyone have the information that would give them the most informed position for any action, especially when actions being considered are life-threatening (like drug use, gun use, financial decisions [when life's necessities are quantified by economists as desires]).
There are agencies that benefit from ill-informed people and keeping people ill-informed, however.
Giving them the power to continue doing business is horrifying.
Chris Matthews is a fucking douche. Paul said he's against the war on drugs, Matthews turns this into "you think it's ok for parents to be heroine addicts".
... both Pauls defend corporation/businesses over individuals !
And also seem "to use it as an ambiguous two-fer" - in context to the Civil Rights act - with double-speak ! .... pandering to racists and allege they are not !
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Coal mining disaster and Gulf Coast drilling rig ... took the side of corporations .. screw the dead !
Chris just doesn't seem to get the idea of the free market. The beauty of it is that it brings people from all walks of life together in the pursuit of profit. This allowed the world to grow closer because in order to do good business, you need to put aside your hatred. Say Apple said no blacks can work there. What would happen? Most people would find the idea disgusting and stop buying their products. If Apple didn't change, it would go out of business. The free market drives the world!
Why should blacks being discriminated against have to wait for people to stop buying Apple products? They were harmed by not being hired based on race in your hypothetical situation, so the government should remedy that. Simple as that.
@Edgehead10075 They were not harmed. They were not given an opportunity. There is a difference. If I'm donating money to people, but I'm racist, and don't want to donate blacks, I am not harming them, I am simply not being generous to them, based on racist feelings. Harming someone means actually intruding on their personal space, and depriving them of their liberty.
no im from romania where whites are very racist against brown gypsies.So if apple or any other corparation hired gypsies in romania whites would be angry.Plus 50 years ago in usa would whites be angry about a buisness not hiring black? no they would probs be happy about that
ron pauls whole agenda is about freedom, and that makes him racist? "its all one package." stop flip flopping what he says and trying to make him look bad for 2 seconds and figure out what that means. "end the war on drugs" "oh your pro heroin." reporters always do that and it pisses me off. if believing in civil liberties makes you a racist then i guess i am too. and im voting ron paul
@mrguermo1 Freedom for those who are the oppressors to continue to oppress. The status qou. Govt intervention was required to end slavery. The civil rights act was necessary because the constitution deemed Blacks 3/5 human. Freedom ain't free.
he didnt oppose it based on civil rights views he opposed it based on the fact that it was littered with irrelevant sections, and actually proposed an amendment to improve it. part of this countries problems is due to the fact politicians use issues like this to piggyback other issues onto in order to use the "main idea" as a way to force the passing of otherwise frivolous or unrelated regulations.
It's ironic that the supposed racist Ron Paul would end the wars and end the drug war. Those two wars harm more colored people than anything in our country right now. The proplem with the civil rights act is it does take away property rights. If it just got rid of Jim Crow laws that would be ok. Look at it this way if the civil rights act including making all americans turn in weapons I wouldn't vote for it. I would demand a good bill.
@Edgehead10075 He supports freedom and property rights. I went to a white school and all the black kids voluntarily segregated themselves. Are they wrong? Ron Paul was against the Jim Crow laws along with Barry Goldwater who lost the election over this issue. You can get rid of the racist black codes without taking americans property rights away.
This is a huge deal-breaker and this is why I cannot vote for Dr. Paul.
I respect the man for sticking to his guns in defense of personal freedom, but his interpretation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 on that basis is not only wrong, but downright absurd.
@justinvpro this civil rights act thing is a dead issue. people just want to find something to blast ron paul on. i dont agree with ron on this but i also realize that what ron paul stands for and wants to accomplish is much greater than a hypothetical question about the civil rights act. He is certainly not a racist. You cant agree with a person on everything. i understand what ron is saying but i think he is wrong on here. but he is still the best candidate to be our president RON PAUL 2012
@MIvarsson99 did you pay attention to anything ron paul said in this video? or did you just hear that he would oppose the civil rights act, and then you automatically thought RACIST! Watch the video again and this time listen to every word. I dont agree with Ron on this issue, but i sure as hell support him still because he is the best man for the job.
@cruze711 I don't give a damn if he's racist or not. How the fuck does a politician's racism affect my life?
It doesn't.
What affects my life is what politicians WILL DO, not what they feel.
The policies Ron Paul advocates would effect egregious harm upon African Americans and lower income people. That is all that matters. I don't care about his intentions. I would gladly vote for a true racist if his policies were beneficial to America.
@MIvarsson99 you are acting like he WILL make laws to harm non white people. How does he endorse racist laws? What policies? And you do know the president cant make laws right? He can veto or sign them...This whole issue is stupid, the only time he talks about this issue is when people ask him about it. Its not like he is running on this at all
@cruze711 That is true. Presidents do not make laws. They do however, set the tone for the agenda in Washington. Often, things that the president urges his own party to do, in Congress, will become law.
Anyway, admittedly, my comment was intended, in part, for ignorant Ron Paul supporters, most of whom do not understand the U.S. Constitution.
@cruze711 Other things besides Ron Paul's stance on the '64 Act bother me. I hate his blatant refusal to EVER acknowledge that state governments have constitutional limitations upon their authority. He is a madman who pretends that "liberty" means allowing state governments to tread all over the rights of the people but prohibiting the federal government from doing so. If he were a true fan of liberty, Paul would hold ALL levels of government accountable to the mandates of the Constitution.
Even though I agree with everything you've said, to be fair, Ron Paul has said that Jim Crow laws were unconstitutional. Therefore, he has said that states have at least some limitations.
@Edgehead10075 No he didn't. He simply said that he disagreed with Jim Crow laws and would have voted against them. That's not the same as saying that the laws are unconstitutional. I GUARANTEE that you cannot find a link proving that Ron Paul declared Jim Crow laws to be unconstitutional. Find the damn link. I dare you.
First off, don't get mad. Like I said, I agree with what you're saying and think that Paul's view on the Civil Rights Act is disgusting, but I heard Ron Paul say that Jim Crow was unconstitutional. I will look for the video and tell you what it is.
@Edgehead10075 I'm mad at Ron Paul, not you. I'm angry that he's feeding young people misinformation about the Constitution and American traditions. I'm angry because he contradicts himself.
@cruze711 ...also, you should notr that I explicitly stated that the policies that Ron Paul "advocates" will be harmful to America. Advocating a policy is not the same as making a law.
@MIvarsson99 All good points. But like i always say...you cant agree with someone on everything and you cant disagree with someone on everything...i dont agree with everything ron paul says, but who else is out there that will actually do some good for this country and has at least some chance of being president??? Ron Paul>obama,romney,cain,palin, and basically everyone else
Not surprising he is against minimum wage also. Hope he has a fall in the shower before next election.
hmasterpiece85 1 day ago
People who think local segregation wouldn't ever happen again even if it was allowed aren't minorities themselves.
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@DracoPilamZ I think you're stupid to even say that, it just allows people in power to disclude whoever they want, 'i don't want black people to work in my factory so i don't have to employ them etc.' Anti discrimination laws are neccasary to protect minorities and give them equal opportunity. Same applies to education, do we make education a service? I hope not. What right does someone have to property over someone else, because they were born with it? What constitutes a right?
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He's trying to coerce others into countenancing his racism by employing ambiguity to such an extent that the close-minded many may actually believe him. He seems to not be able to recognise that without the Civil Rights Act there wouldn't be a shred of equality for black people in the US. He pertains to believe in freedom for all- libertarianism should be unconditional- yet without the removal of social injustica there can be no freedom, only a spurious delusion.
atheistscepticism 1 month ago
Ron Paul assumes the best in everyone. It's nice, it's a nice ideal, but it's not the case. Give people the chance to be corrupt, and some of them will.
Gremmie4 1 month ago
@Gremmie4 If businesses started denying people business on the basis of their race, everyone would boycott them except perhaps a small handful. It's not really naive idealism as much as just a healthy realization of where people are at, and what effect the idea of liberty and natural rights has. Once people realize they're free and truly free, they want to give it away. This is why blacks started getting more respect after the constitution was written and many of them were liberated in the north
heartrocketblast 1 month ago
@heartrocketblast I understand, and agree to a certain extent, but this is hardly the only -- or biggest -- case of his being extreme.
Gremmie4 1 month ago
@Gremmie4 Well people often look extreme when they're not trying to pander to everyone or tickle their ears. The truth is often hard to hear... for those who have something to lose.
heartrocketblast 1 month ago
@heartrocketblast Got nothin' to lose and plenty to gain with the right guy in office, I just don't think RP is the one. Simple as that. We're not going to change each other's minds, so let's just agree to disagree on this one. :)
Gremmie4 1 month ago
Ron Paul wants the government out of our lives.
He wasn't against the civil rights act because of race, but because the government got involved in a shop owner's right to choose who could and couldn't go into their store.
If you look at the big picture, he wants the people to be able to run their property, bodies, and lives how they want. Come on people....
18elana 1 month ago
@18elana Yeah he wants to bring America to the 1800's , fuck Ron Paul.
777Atheist 1 month ago
@777Atheist if by 1800's you mean a time when the government wasn't corrupt and full of shit, then yeah
18elana 1 month ago
@18elana Slavery, Only rich white males had rights, yeah better times, idiot.
777Atheist 1 month ago
@777Atheist that has nothing to do with Ron Paul..
18elana 1 month ago
@18elana Bye, I'm not wasting my time with Ron Paul supporters, he's never gonna become President anyway, and Paul is a millionaire so why does he need people to make donations to him for his campaign ? Ron Paul does not care about the working man.
777Atheist 1 month ago
@777Atheist he needs donations because he doesn't take money from big corporations for his campaign, unlike the others. he practices what he preaches. you think the other candidates are throwing all their personal money into the election? ha. but i'm not going to waste my time on someone ignorant and uninformed. so, bye
18elana 1 month ago 2
@18elana Learn how to spell, then we'll talk, you're illiterate, it's no wonder you Paulites are so against public education and want to Privatize our Schools, Ron Paul will never be President anyways, haha .
777Atheist 1 month ago
@777Atheist i didn't misspell anything, idiot.
"anyways" isn't a word, by the way.
18elana 1 month ago
@18elana Well, I think you need to read your sentence again, you did not capitalize any word at the beginning of your sentences,ha is not a complete sentence, yeah I made a mistake. You made 6 mistakes, dumbass.
777Atheist 1 month ago
@777Atheist wow ok. well first off, not capitalizing a word is not misspelling it. second, i don't give a fuck. this is the internet. third, you made your entire comment one sentence and you capitalized "privatize, schools, president". good try though
18elana 1 month ago
The guy's just twisting his words, he's campaigned against racism. I hope he wins not only for the freedom thing, but he's also said he's pro Palestine which sealed the deal for me. Ron Paul for president
MzKGeneration 1 month ago
Ron 'Moonbat' Paul 1812!!
9886635574 1 month ago
Ron Paul is an idiot. A successful country needs a balance of libertarian values and some form of government control to maintain the crazies and bring a set of order into the world. I mean Ron Paul just wants to make everything like the Caveman eras--no rules and regulation. Just do whatever you want. Life isn't a game like Fable Lost Chapters.
I'm glad no one's donating nearly enough money to this guy as they are to Mitt and Obama.
DaNewLeder 1 month ago
@DaNewLeder You are being ignorant, he wants SMALL government, which is very different of not having any government at all, it's how the founding fathers wanted: a limited government. He is not an anarchist! And by the way, the corrupted corporations are the ones that are donating to Mitt and Obama, both are whores of establishment. Ron Paul is the only one anti-establishment and anti-war.
anyelina1111 4 days ago
Public property- paid for with public money.
On private property- the force of government should not be used against peaceful people who hold unpopular political beliefs.
porthadlock 1 month ago
@porthadlock
Well, there you go. Then it's "The People" who own it. And I imagine basic equality laws would be agreed on, on a state to state basis, since all peoples would be in all states.
MorpheusOmikron 1 month ago
So Chris- did you refuse to use the whites only laundromat?
porthadlock 1 month ago
I love Ron Paul.
RON PAUL 2012. THIS MAN IS FRIGGEN AMAZING.
MorpheusOmikron 1 month ago
Total freedom doesn't work?!! HE HAS LOST IT.. Ron Paul is schooling the young fool..
edwinr360 1 month ago 2
So Mr. Paul displays that he understands an act probably better than any news anchor and every politician in office today, and somehow it's twisted into him being a racist? Good job morons.
stev0205 1 month ago 2
@sweetheart2109 We shouldn't assume that people can't change. Likewise we shouldn't assume that just because the law was able to legislate morality in one instance of history and for a very small portion of Southerners that it is a panacea for the woes that the country is facing today. Does that make sense?
steviepanties 1 month ago
@sweetheart2109 To say that "if Civil Rights Legislation is repealed, then people will go back to being racist" is to assume that people's attitudes haven't changed, and that the offspring of old Jim Crow generations (that by this time many have died) aren't able to change either. In fact, my grandfather's side of the family was quite racist and in favor of Jim Crow policies, but I am strictly opposed to them.
steviepanties 1 month ago
@sweetheart2109 What I'm getting at is that the attempts at repealing Jim Crow were effective in some instances at changing initial attitudes, but since then MOST people have adopted a more colorblind approach and understanding of the necessity of all peoples interacting in an economy
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@sweetheart2109 By the same token, if you believe that the federal attempts at repealing racism in American communities has been completely effective, then you should consider the counter evidence presented by "Sundown towns" (sundown.afro.illinois.edu/sundowntowns.php) and Texas in its entirety.
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@sweetheart2109 Be honest with yourself: Is the only thing that keeps communities from being racist the law? I don't think so. Sure, initially Jim Crow laws were repealed because of legislation passed by the federal government. But to assume that the changes that these people (in previously Jim Crow communities) have undergone are ephemeral in their effect on behaviors and attitude means that you are probably missing something.
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steviepanties 1 month ago
Total freedom doesn't seem to work? I can't believe we have idiots like Chris Matthews who think the Constitution is optional.
piratesmvp 1 month ago
@piratesmvp Oh but we do. That's the problem with democracy. It's the best opportunity for the people to get what they want. But what if a majority of the people are idiots? What a majority of the people believe everything that the two-party system wants them to believe?
steviepanties 1 month ago
@piratesmvp What if the majority of the Republican party are Southern evangelical Christians that can't remove themselves from their indoctrinated, dogmatic euphoria and war-mongering nature? What if the majority of liberals believe that the only way for society to function is to have a State that tells them how to live their lives and provide everything for them?
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steviepanties 1 month ago
@piratesmvp How do you combat ignorant idiocy, dogma, and orthodoxy that's been ingrained into people for decades? What do the informed, educated minority do to direct society from its wayward path? Once we can answer that question, we can have total freedom that works, and a Constitution that is respected.
steviepanties 1 month ago
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@piratesmvp But you and I have to find the solution for idiocy first. You and I have to find a way to destabilize the big-government controlled media's hold on American minds. That, my friend, is a doozie.
steviepanties 1 month ago
HEY CHRIS! "LET ME FINISH!" NOW SHUT THE FU UP AND LET HIM FINISH
nousernamestaken 1 month ago
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CHRIS MATTHEWS! SHUT THE GODDANE HECK UP! AND LET YOUR GUEST FINISH TALKING. YOU TRYING TO TALK OVER YOUR GUEST IS FRICKEN RUDE AND ANNOYING< THAT IS WHY NO ONE WATCHES YOUR STUPID SHOW! I STOPPED CAUSE OF THIS VERY REASON!
nousernamestaken 1 month ago
CHRIS MATTHEWS! SHUT THE GODDANE HELL UP! AND LET YOUR GUEST FINISH TALKING. YOU TRYING TO TALK OVER YOUR GUEST IS FRICKEN RUDE AND ANNOYING< THAT IS WHY NO ONE WATCHES YOUR STUPID SHOW! I STOPPED CAUSE OF THIS VERY REASON!
nousernamestaken 1 month ago
This is why I laugh on the inside when conservatives claim the republican party is pro civil rights.
TheCaliCapitalist 1 month ago
Freedom?? Freedom to choose??? He is anti women rights and gay rights!!!!!! just an fyi folks!!!! he wants laws kept on them...not allowing them to make choices!!!!!! duh folks!!
petiteAlicious 1 month ago
@petiteAlicious anti-women rights? Just another way of saying anti-abortion, which consequently is anti-infanticide. Is it really to much ask to have laws that prevent people from murdering their own children?
AstroAntaAposAnarch 1 month ago
I dont like the guy on the left. Ron Paul is a prophet
powlo12345 1 month ago
This is why I cannot vote for Ron Paul under ANY circumstance.
As a person of color, I find it hilarious that he thinks it is Constitutional to discriminate based on skin pigmentation. Property rights my arse, he knows what he's doing.
amitbarfs 1 month ago
@amitbarfs Actually I agree with Paul. Im a black man, and I hate racism in any direction of any kind. And believe it or not, forcing racist people to serve other races just makes them mad. I'd rather know who those racist pricks are so that I never give their business a dime. If the laws are there, they have to be closet racists and I'll end up giving a person money who will be calling me the n word as soon as I walk out the door.
Owunthrizzel 1 month ago 2
@Owunthrizzel
Fair enough, but my problem with Dr Paul is that he thought your type of principled libertarianism was good enough for communities of color in 1964, when you know it just wasn't so.
For someone who was around in 1964, Paul should know better. The thing is, I think he does, and just as the opposite view a libertarian should have, which is to extend freedom to minorities.
amitbarfs 1 month ago
@amitbarfs he said jim crow laws were unjust, which they were. but no one has a right to tell you not to discriminate on your own property. sorry. that's what we have to accept in a free society.
chadimus84 1 month ago
@amitbarfs You got it wrong from the premise, my friend. The government doesn't grant freedom, period.
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@Owunthrizzel As a black woman, I agree with what you said above BUT...........JIM CROW LAWS were OUTED because the CIVIL RIGHTS BILL. To get rid of this bill would enable JIM CROW LAWS TO BE REINSTATED! Now that's very serious and I'm not about seeing our brothers dangle from trees again cause a bunch of VERY ILL-INFORMED white people are pissed off at OBAMA (his black side that is, lol). This man Ron Paul will make what Obama is doing, a tea and cupcake party, STALIN for sure, people wake up!
skaismith 1 month ago
@skaismith I doubt that you would find many communities who would seriously try to reinstate jim crow laws. Now the middle of the country probably would, but there arent many minorities there anyway. And they would have their businesses be crucified by the media, but honestly I doubt that type of racism is as big of an issue. We need to worry about the justice system and the education desparity more than a racist store clerk.
Owunthrizzel 1 month ago
@Owunthrizzel I know that there is sooooo very much going on in this country for us to worry about, I don't trust this Ron Paul, he will not deliver us (all americans) but literallu CRUCIFY US ALL! All Presidents since JFK have been SELECTED NOT ELECTED!
skaismith 1 month ago
@skaismith Outside of the Civil Rights thing, what makes him untrustworthy? He's one of the few politicians I've heard that seriously wants to get us out of the rut we are currently in. Everyone else is content to stay the course even when the economy clearly isnt working and we create bubble after bubble. But Id like to know what Paul does that bothers you so much.
Owunthrizzel 1 month ago
@Owunthrizzel Ron Paul will make Obama look like a pansy if were to get into office! VERY SCARY GUY!!
skaismith 1 month ago
@skaismith Jim Crow was established by the government. "Brothers dangling from trees" was illegal regardless of Jim Crow. Its not even a remote possibility that this could happen. What is possible, however, is that young black males will continue to have their lives ruined by the "justice system". A small minority (and I mean minority) of racists doesn't justify sweeping laws that undermine -all- of our liberties, no matter how well-intentioned.
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@VictoryInTruth True what you have said too, I'm just worried about the bigger picture here. this is just one of the main policies I do NOT agree with, that's all :-)
skaismith 1 month ago
@skaismith You keep saying he's scary, I don't understand though. Most people who like Ron Paul hate racists with a passion. He is running to end the wars, prevent new ones, repeal laws that allow the government to spy and KILL us without a trial. and some people get hung up over the 1964 civil rights act. These are all political tactics. Yes, he's not going to "deliver" us, nobody is going to deliver us. It requires us to be vigilant. Freedom is not free, and Ron Paul's campaign has been tough.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
How is he against legalizing abortion if he believes in the whole "Making it illegal doesn't help" thing? The same goes for abortion.... if you make it illegal, women are going to do it anyway, except there will be more back alley abortions and self-induced abortions. Not really consistent here..
SillyIncantations 1 month ago
If a father does heroin and hurts his son THAT IS WHEN THE STATE SHOULD STEP IN. If a father does heroin treats his son well and is one day thrown in prison (leaving the son with out a father) that is true evil!
angerycamel2 2 months ago
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HE COULD HAVE MADE A GOOD ARGUEMENT AGAINST AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, BUT THE 1964 cIVIL RIGHTS ACT WAS NEEDED AND IT WASN'T UNCONSTITUTIONAL...THIS GUY KNOWS NOT WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT AS USUAL.
3dartistguy 2 months ago
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3dartistguy 2 months ago
@bastardoftheparty1 @liberalmike1994 @gregariousGorilla This is the reason why Ron Paul was against the Act: ronpaul.c0m/on-the-issues/civil-rights-act/ (change the 0 to an o)
Xziro3 2 months ago
Hmmm I'm not sure I support this aspect of Ron Paul. I'm actually quite disappointed about this. WHY RON WHY.
GregariousGorilla 2 months ago
@GregariousGorilla what aspect?
jdeerighteousness 2 months ago
@GregariousGorilla I agree with you. Still will support Ron Paul over any of the other guys. But it seems like hes saying that Property Right are more important then Civil rights. No one is going to go backwards, but its just leaves me confused.
myfabien 1 month ago 2
Ha Ha and boo hoo to all the skinhead, nationalist and kkk, that are going to watch their man Ron Paul FAIL again!
bastardoftheparty1 2 months ago
the libertarianism of Ron Paul is as the italian aphorism goes: free foxes in free hen-houses
saintjustx1 2 months ago
Paul is nuts! If he had his way, hotels and restaurants and the like could once again turn people away because of their race or religion. American should never go back to those horrible days.
1kkyu 2 months ago
@1kkyu Paul is consistant with what he believes. I can't say I agree with everything that he says, but there is a flaw with your statement. Who would honestly turn away minorities even if Paul "had his way"? If I owned a hotel or restaurant I would certainly not turn away paying customers because of their skin color. Today, people are more educated on how everyone is equal. Paul is making the point that small business owners should be free most gov. regulation and that they should have choice
cmtuckerman 2 months ago
@cmtuckerman free from*** most gov. regulation...
cmtuckerman 2 months ago
@cmtuckerman people did turn away blacks when they had the ability. why should we give anyone the right to do that.
liberalmike1994 2 months ago
@cmtuckerman I have absolutely no doubt that many businesses, if given the choice, would turn away various people because of their race or religion. I think it's great that you (and others like you) would not turn away people because of their skin color. But racism and anti-Semitism is still common in the U.S. and allowing for "private discrimination" would be a formula for disaster.
1kkyu 2 months ago
@1kkyu
So if some turn a person away from their house due to there skin color or religion the law should govern this.
If that is the case you will find that the law will end up governing everything.
The law does not stop people from being racist. The only thing that can stop people from being racist is education.
bighands69 2 months ago
"total freedom doesn't work" ha
RonPaulorDie2012 2 months ago
Ron Paul is suggesting these freedoms be under state supervision on a more local level, this is a hypothetical situation which would only happen after restructuring. Matthews makes it sound like Paul wants to do it immediately. Either way, we've been in a state of emergency since 1995 so the argument of civil liberties is null and void, there are none.
BxCAD 2 months ago
The civil rights act outlawed these discriminatory practices by property owners and operators of public facilities. It was because of government involvement not despite it that the practice is as Ron Paul says, "Ancient history." Repeal this important legislation and there will indeed be a return to de jure segregation.
TheHerpaderpderp 2 months ago
Yes, the federal gov is screwed up, but it is made up of Senators and Representatives from the individual states. Some override the decisions of others. And I'm glad. Yes the right was given to African Americans to vote, but federal troops had to be called in to enforce that right in the south, or has everyone forgotten that?
ChaosImperial 2 months ago
or doesn't care.
ChaosImperial 2 months ago
I'm 28 years old. I'm from the south. I remember riding my bike past a barbershop that still had a whites only sign by the barber pole when I was a kid. This is not ancient history. This was the 80's early 90's. There are still places in the south a young black man knows not to go near at all if possible, and not alone if you have to. Places where actually doing research and being well informed mean you are "trying to sound white." I left and haven't gone back. Either he is misinformed...
ChaosImperial 2 months ago
@steviepanties matthews is a good interviewer- he had questions he didn't know the answer to and ron paul gave them to him.. of course he's going to come out with the extreme questions to keep the interviewee on their toes- the point of his show is to do that (i.e. hardball).. UNLIKE bill o'riley and most people on fox, matthews is willing to be swayed if you give him a good answer, which in my opinion he was swayed in this interview
CocoaLuv22 2 months ago
I do not know this Ron Paul man but I have new pair of steel toed boots I like to test out on the Matthews fellow
particlejunkie 2 months ago
@particlejunkie You need to know Ron Paul my friend you tube him to find out.
PaleoAthletics 2 months ago
I am tired of people failing to understand Ron Paul's views regarding the Civil Rights Act. Believing the Civil Rights Act was unnecessary doesn't make an individual racist. He believed we should have deemed laws that institutionalized racism as unconstitutional. Not slap an act on top of the problem. That is very pro-Civil Rights!!!! =) ♥ ya Dr. Paul!
DefinePrivacy 2 months ago
@DefinePrivacy The original constitution was fine with slavery, actually. The US was built on institutionalized racism. What makes the US great is that it changed. But if you repeal the laws that made those changes... the act was needed to actually cancel out earlier provisions in the constitution which maintained the constitution's original form, which was white supremacist.
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@ChaosImperial Yes, but these comments are referring to the Civil Rights Act of the 1960s, not the 1800s. So, I am not sure how your statement is relevant. By the 1960s the constitution (14th Amendment) contained an Equal Protection Clause which would have deemed Jim Crow laws as unconstitutional. This is why Ron Paul would have been against the Civil Rights Act because we already had clauses in our amended constitution that would deem racist practices as unconstitutional.
DefinePrivacy 2 months ago
@ChaosImperial Equal Protection Clause resulted in the dismantling of racial segregation in the United States. That clause in itself was enough for the Supreme Court to deem any law that institutionalized racism as unconstitutional. The Civil Rights Act was unnecessary. However, I am not at all opposed to it. Just saying the courts already had the "ammo" to fight racism.
DefinePrivacy 2 months ago
Matthews: "I understand libertarianism... total freedom doesn't seem to work." Then he tries to use emotional arguments to make the viewer FEEL they need the government to protect them. I'll use my own money to protect myself and my home (my neighborhood, my city, my state, my country, and everyone around me) better than a bunch of bureaucrats ever could.
valeo626 2 months ago
Ron Paul is the man.
jrock6467 2 months ago 15
@jrock6467 Desegregation was a FORCED thing. [[The cops came to your playhouse and FORCED you against your will to let a person with no hands sit on ur chair. Where as, your mom should have taught you from birth. Child, do not be afraid of people with no hands. He can’t help that. It is ok to let him sit on the chair. Get over it and let him it there.]] ♥ RON PAUL ♥
FrancineStar 2 months ago
@jrock6467 Where our forefathers went wrong was…. Instead of ‘forcing’ U 2 allow people with violet eyes 2 drink from UR glass. They should have educated you. Child, YOU are wrong! You should not be upset that person has violet eyes. That is ok we are all different. U should not freak out about them sitting next to you on the bus JUST because they have violet eyes either. They have a right to be there as much as you do. Deal with it!
FrancineStar 2 months ago
RP: I WOULD NOT vote against the Jim Crow laws!
CM: Not saying you are racist…I am saying the laws are racist!
RP: Segregation on busses was done by laws.
CM: ?Know why people like you? They want to live in a simpler society…..
RP: We have a totalitarian world. I want 2 legalize freedom. We will be better off with our freedom and not gov control of our personal lives, policing & running the economy.”
CM: “I love ur foreign policy. Don’t get me wrong. I love your foreign policy.”
FrancineStar 2 months ago
Matthews uses the same interview tactics as Bill O'Reilly. Sad.
steviepanties 2 months ago 11
@steviepanties - Freedom to discriminate against blacks if your state allows it.
vjfahey49 2 months ago
@steviepanties its amazing the amount of excuse making paul fans will go through for their master
liberalmike1994 2 months ago
@liberalmike1994
Excuse for what?
bighands69 2 months ago
@steviepanties you mean asking a straight question? Ive never heard bill oreily do that.
liberalmike1994 1 month ago
@steviepanties
All the extreme-wing media are the same, i.e. raving one-sided partisan assholes who use junk-logic and thug-tactics.just to get ratings, rather than any standards or integrity.
I haven't seen one single exception.
SovereignStatesman 1 month ago
@sambam2694
How could you possibly know that?
steviepanties 2 months ago
If blacks would have never had that bill I wouldn't be here today, using this computer. Ron Paul is cool but he really needs to watch what he says.
sambam2694 2 months ago
@sambam2694 he's saying the bill was unnecessary. Essentially what he is implying is that over time the demand of goods, services, and in this case people would be high enough to increase the supply of ways to people work with them. Stores would lose money if they did that today. Consider the early prohibition of snowboards from a ski resort. The supply and use of snowboards went up over time and the best way for these ski resort to make money was to allow them onto their grounds.
ceisen1 2 months ago 2
@sambam2694 the two are more alike then you may think. Just give it some though before you answer.
ceisen1 2 months ago
@sambam2694 You have to understand friend. The media is spinning him. Its a set up. You fluster them with accusations in cause their emotions to rise, then you make connections that are superficial or non-existent. This irritates them more. Never let them to catch up. What Ron Paul is saying that he wouldn't have voted for because you give power to the government by voting away our freedoms which we don't get back. For instance you don't need laws like that now days or most
PaleoAthletics 2 months ago
@sambam2694 False. The Civil Rights Act was simply a "decorative" act, in my opinion. The amended constitution by the 1960s contained enough laws to deem racist practices as unconstitutional.
DefinePrivacy 2 months ago
He should shut the fuck up and let paul finish his thought. Mathews is famous for interrupting his guests. that is why i can't even watch or listen to his stupid ass show
nousernamestaken 2 months ago
If that person wants to be a racist let it be its only going to come back to them by society not liking that person and eventually he will be homeless or hated by everyone so its more of a social issue not a goverment issue psshh if anyof yall were president beside ron paul i would definetaly move to canida
stapia505 3 months ago
I agree with property rights, but, under the 14th Amendment, we all have a right to life, liberty, property, due process of the law, and equal protection under the law. Discrimination against non-criminal individuals for their race, national origin, gender, or sexual orientation should all be illegal. If this were 1950 and it was a libertarian society, I absolutely believe racism would still run rampant. My god, our country enslaved black people! Ron's awesome, but he has to recognize the 14th.
Volt35 3 months ago
@Volt35 false. the 14th amendment "prohibits state and local governments from depriving persons of life, liberty, or property" -- one can choose not to do business with a racist business owner. That's what freedom is all about. However, the government cannot discriminate but individuals can (foolishly), which is protected under the First Amendment.
scarecrowhcn 3 months ago
@scarecrowhcn I see your point. But in the past, Congress has used the Inter-state Commerce Clause to regulate discriminatory businesses on the basis that they substantially affected the economy. This, however, is not the ideal way to deal with discrimination.
Volt35 3 months ago
He made a good point comparing drug abuse to alcohol abuse.
It took me awhile to understand Ron Paul's stance on discrimination.
Basically, he says that people have the right to do business with whomever they wish to, and that government can not discriminate based on race, religion, sex, etc.
The 1964 civil rights act is a great law, but it went too far when it infringed on personal property rights, and the freedom of association.
...and that is why men are allowed to join Curves fitness gym
mhoyer01 3 months ago
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Fight4Canada 3 months ago
Ron Paul's really lacks common sense. I mean he actually thinks he can fight for the rights of bigots and racists to discriminate and still win a presidential election. LMAO He has no chance! Enjoy your retirement Ronny! :D
ViciousOneWon 3 months ago
@ViciousOneWon your the man viscious one, You absolutely right.. A "racist" has no rights, nobody should fight for their rights, their not even human beings. It is just common sense. People who drive S.U.V'S are not people either, we should take away all of their rights also, Sucking gas, poluting, degenerates. Please tell me who the people are who deserve protection from the bill of rights, I forgot....
TIGERSDFW 3 months ago
@TIGERSDFW If u believe those things then thats ur right. I believe the American people dont support discrimination based on race, sex, religion, color, and national origin. Our laws prove it. If a candidate does not support the beliefs of the American people, that candidate wont win. Ron Paul is proof of that.
ViciousOneWon 3 months ago
@ViciousOneWon and obama supports gun control.. yet he won.. so... owned?
sniped101 2 months ago
@sniped101 The American people want gun control laws, so what's ur point?
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DanHall4RonPaul 4 months ago
Ron Paul's Libertarianism, while a laudable goal, requires that everyone have the information that would give them the most informed position for any action, especially when actions being considered are life-threatening (like drug use, gun use, financial decisions [when life's necessities are quantified by economists as desires]).
There are agencies that benefit from ill-informed people and keeping people ill-informed, however.
Giving them the power to continue doing business is horrifying.
SenariXarn 4 months ago
Chris Matthews is a fucking douche. Paul said he's against the war on drugs, Matthews turns this into "you think it's ok for parents to be heroine addicts".
jpete3027666 4 months ago
... both Pauls defend corporation/businesses over individuals !
And also seem "to use it as an ambiguous two-fer" - in context to the Civil Rights act - with double-speak ! .... pandering to racists and allege they are not !
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Coal mining disaster and Gulf Coast drilling rig ... took the side of corporations .. screw the dead !
Jackoutthebox4321 4 months ago
Chris just doesn't seem to get the idea of the free market. The beauty of it is that it brings people from all walks of life together in the pursuit of profit. This allowed the world to grow closer because in order to do good business, you need to put aside your hatred. Say Apple said no blacks can work there. What would happen? Most people would find the idea disgusting and stop buying their products. If Apple didn't change, it would go out of business. The free market drives the world!
ARC2132 4 months ago
Why should blacks being discriminated against have to wait for people to stop buying Apple products? They were harmed by not being hired based on race in your hypothetical situation, so the government should remedy that. Simple as that.
Edgehead10075 4 months ago
@Edgehead10075 They were not harmed. They were not given an opportunity. There is a difference. If I'm donating money to people, but I'm racist, and don't want to donate blacks, I am not harming them, I am simply not being generous to them, based on racist feelings. Harming someone means actually intruding on their personal space, and depriving them of their liberty.
AminCad 4 months ago
@ARC2132
no im from romania where whites are very racist against brown gypsies.So if apple or any other corparation hired gypsies in romania whites would be angry.Plus 50 years ago in usa would whites be angry about a buisness not hiring black? no they would probs be happy about that
989lmao 2 months ago
Ron Paul- 2
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xMiCHaElGaBRiEL 4 months ago
Nope, wrong.
Ron Paul is nuts; get over it.
Edgehead10075 4 months ago
Ron Paul is a very smart man. Long live freedom!
Robert8455 4 months ago
Freedom to discriminate, lol.
Edgehead10075 4 months ago
ron pauls whole agenda is about freedom, and that makes him racist? "its all one package." stop flip flopping what he says and trying to make him look bad for 2 seconds and figure out what that means. "end the war on drugs" "oh your pro heroin." reporters always do that and it pisses me off. if believing in civil liberties makes you a racist then i guess i am too. and im voting ron paul
mrguermo1 4 months ago 13
@mrguermo1 But you see through it that's all that matters. That's exactly how the hold is going to slip.
PaleoAthletics 2 months ago
@mrguermo1 Freedom for those who are the oppressors to continue to oppress. The status qou. Govt intervention was required to end slavery. The civil rights act was necessary because the constitution deemed Blacks 3/5 human. Freedom ain't free.
bastardoftheparty1 2 months ago
@bastardoftheparty1 he only wanted to revise it so that it didnt violate the civil rights of business owners. feedom is free
mrguermo1 2 months ago
he didnt oppose it based on civil rights views he opposed it based on the fact that it was littered with irrelevant sections, and actually proposed an amendment to improve it. part of this countries problems is due to the fact politicians use issues like this to piggyback other issues onto in order to use the "main idea" as a way to force the passing of otherwise frivolous or unrelated regulations.
MrJoSWilson 4 months ago
Actually he opposes it because he believes that a business has the right to not serve blacks (or anyone else).
Edgehead10075 4 months ago
@Edgehead10075 /........uhhhh errr....i wasn't implying otherwise. sorry if i wasn't overly specific.
MrJoSWilson 4 months ago
I've yet to see anything other than hyperbole from MSNBC.
eRealist 5 months ago
weed easier to get than beer? maybe in texas.
tyronesj06 5 months ago
It's ironic that the supposed racist Ron Paul would end the wars and end the drug war. Those two wars harm more colored people than anything in our country right now. The proplem with the civil rights act is it does take away property rights. If it just got rid of Jim Crow laws that would be ok. Look at it this way if the civil rights act including making all americans turn in weapons I wouldn't vote for it. I would demand a good bill.
jneil2007 5 months ago
So what? He supports voluntary segregation, which is wrong.
Edgehead10075 4 months ago
@Edgehead10075 He supports freedom and property rights. I went to a white school and all the black kids voluntarily segregated themselves. Are they wrong? Ron Paul was against the Jim Crow laws along with Barry Goldwater who lost the election over this issue. You can get rid of the racist black codes without taking americans property rights away.
jneil2007 4 months ago
And reps wounded why few blacks vote for them. They are religous nuts, loons, elitist, and bigots. Ron Paul is a bigot.
TheCaliCapitalist 5 months ago
Uh, Ron Paul doesn't represent most Republicans on this issue.
Edgehead10075 4 months ago
This is a huge deal-breaker and this is why I cannot vote for Dr. Paul.
I respect the man for sticking to his guns in defense of personal freedom, but his interpretation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 on that basis is not only wrong, but downright absurd.
justinvpro 5 months ago
@justinvpro So you wont vote for ron paul based on a 'flawed interpretation' ? wow
A libertarian like ron paul cannot be racist. It's the basis of Libertarianism that all humans have equal opportunities and rights.
kwnnlhs 5 months ago
Everyone should have the equal opportunity and right to be served at a place of business that's open to the public.
Edgehead10075 4 months ago
@justinvpro this civil rights act thing is a dead issue. people just want to find something to blast ron paul on. i dont agree with ron on this but i also realize that what ron paul stands for and wants to accomplish is much greater than a hypothetical question about the civil rights act. He is certainly not a racist. You cant agree with a person on everything. i understand what ron is saying but i think he is wrong on here. but he is still the best candidate to be our president RON PAUL 2012
cruze711 5 months ago
Who cares if he's a racist or not. He endorses racist laws so fuck him.
I'd GLADLY vote for a real racist if he will protect people's civil rights, but I will NOT support a fool like Dr. Paul.
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
@MIvarsson99 did you pay attention to anything ron paul said in this video? or did you just hear that he would oppose the civil rights act, and then you automatically thought RACIST! Watch the video again and this time listen to every word. I dont agree with Ron on this issue, but i sure as hell support him still because he is the best man for the job.
cruze711 5 months ago
@cruze711 I don't give a damn if he's racist or not. How the fuck does a politician's racism affect my life?
It doesn't.
What affects my life is what politicians WILL DO, not what they feel.
The policies Ron Paul advocates would effect egregious harm upon African Americans and lower income people. That is all that matters. I don't care about his intentions. I would gladly vote for a true racist if his policies were beneficial to America.
STOP making politics personal, people. It's gay.
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
@MIvarsson99 you are acting like he WILL make laws to harm non white people. How does he endorse racist laws? What policies? And you do know the president cant make laws right? He can veto or sign them...This whole issue is stupid, the only time he talks about this issue is when people ask him about it. Its not like he is running on this at all
cruze711 5 months ago
@cruze711 That is true. Presidents do not make laws. They do however, set the tone for the agenda in Washington. Often, things that the president urges his own party to do, in Congress, will become law.
Anyway, admittedly, my comment was intended, in part, for ignorant Ron Paul supporters, most of whom do not understand the U.S. Constitution.
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
@cruze711 Other things besides Ron Paul's stance on the '64 Act bother me. I hate his blatant refusal to EVER acknowledge that state governments have constitutional limitations upon their authority. He is a madman who pretends that "liberty" means allowing state governments to tread all over the rights of the people but prohibiting the federal government from doing so. If he were a true fan of liberty, Paul would hold ALL levels of government accountable to the mandates of the Constitution.
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
Even though I agree with everything you've said, to be fair, Ron Paul has said that Jim Crow laws were unconstitutional. Therefore, he has said that states have at least some limitations.
Edgehead10075 4 months ago
@Edgehead10075 No he didn't. He simply said that he disagreed with Jim Crow laws and would have voted against them. That's not the same as saying that the laws are unconstitutional. I GUARANTEE that you cannot find a link proving that Ron Paul declared Jim Crow laws to be unconstitutional. Find the damn link. I dare you.
MIvarsson99 4 months ago
First off, don't get mad. Like I said, I agree with what you're saying and think that Paul's view on the Civil Rights Act is disgusting, but I heard Ron Paul say that Jim Crow was unconstitutional. I will look for the video and tell you what it is.
Edgehead10075 4 months ago
@Edgehead10075 I'm mad at Ron Paul, not you. I'm angry that he's feeding young people misinformation about the Constitution and American traditions. I'm angry because he contradicts himself.
MIvarsson99 4 months ago
@cruze711 ...also, you should notr that I explicitly stated that the policies that Ron Paul "advocates" will be harmful to America. Advocating a policy is not the same as making a law.
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
@MIvarsson99 All good points. But like i always say...you cant agree with someone on everything and you cant disagree with someone on everything...i dont agree with everything ron paul says, but who else is out there that will actually do some good for this country and has at least some chance of being president??? Ron Paul>obama,romney,cain,palin, and basically everyone else