astagfirullah...stop it! mr magar had done this all for us ok!!!....
do not say anything wen u dont even no anythin about it! okayy... whatever u wana say... say it in the day of ressurection. so allah swt can deal with u!!!
No Islamic schools! Then they can't teach them that awful ideology to hate us and not to obey our laws. Send them to Australian schools, so they may become Australians!!! A balance is needed! Ban islamic schools!
No Islamic schools! Then they can't teach them that awful ideology to hate us and not to obey our laws. Send them to Australian schools, so they may become Australians!!! Ban islamic schools!
Hey aussies, how's that europhilia/utopian/mindless constant optimism/internationalist/ welfare-statist/liberal/nonstop immigration/political correct/bullshit way of life workin' out for you?
@peppersdog1 agreed it is a primitive barbaric religion that has no place in laid back australia or any western country. look where it comes from there countries are disgusting they in turn bring it with them and slowly degenerate their new surroundings with their plague like religion, religion of peace ha ha whats peaceful about it? honour killings? beheading? community stonings? terrorism?its a religion governed by fear and punishment makes me sik just thinking about it. it has no place in aus
Only a CATHOLIC STATE will resist your Islamisation!
Secular western governments - the same ones that answer your every 'right' - is now surrendering your land to Islam! Well they need to replace their ageing populations with younger ones to bolster themselves against China! Prepare for a Catholic State - or prepare for your burka!
Islam is a cancer on society. The fundamentalists just want to use the government to gain footholds by building schools and inplementing sharia law. Soon you will see predominantly Islamic societies springing up which do not support the countries they reside in. Then you'll see whats happening in France - Muslims who cause riots because they don't care about the "land of the infidels" or the people they regard as infidels. Do not be fooled by this devious religion. They say its peaceful?
Saudi Arabia is spending billions of dollars throughout the world building mosques and establishing religious schools. If Australian Islamic schools are getting funding from the arabs, then perhaps a law should be established not to allow tax money to go them, which would give them a double advantage over any other religious school. I'd prefer there be no govt. funding whatsoever, but this could be a compromise propostition.
Australia has to end government subsidies to all religious schools. Thomas Jefferson got it right when he insisted on the separation of church and state. Why should I have to give my tax dollars to support Islam? We're just giving the country away to Moslems as they are doing in Europe. Petition your representatives for change.
Australia has to end government subsidies to all religious schools. Thomas Jefferson got it right when he insisted on the separation of church and state. Why should I have to give my tax dollars to support Islam? We're just giving the country away to Moslems as they are doing in Europe. Petition your representatives for change.
muslims should follow the chinese(generally budhists), Indians( hindus) and Filipinos(christians) as examples of good immigrants... these 3 nationalites have different cultures and beliefs yet they can blend in any form of societies and not causing any animosities towards the natives...
Since muslims are usually uneducated lazy burdens on society, you can do little but pass out idle threats.
My channel has links to official UK gov stats proving muslims are the least educated most unemployable group in Britain.
Islam prevents muslims achieving high standards due to all the rubbish they have to remember at an early age, it hobbles their mind for life as statistics show.
Islam has absolutely no place whatsoever in a modern western democracy.
I find it an personal insult of earth shattering proportions, to everything that I represent as a proud democratic liberty loving Australian, that we even have Islamic hate mongers in this country.
@screwuguys619 -- SO true mate... Australian goverment is fucking lost. When will they wake up and realise that just becasue we havent had any deaths relating to islamic extemists, dosnt mean we are immune. WE need to wake up and take action while we can and STOP the fuckers by banning all muslim immigrations
lol... its funny how australia works with immigration, its not like im against it, but they should bloody choose the right person who can fit in the australian society to come in.. but nahhh,, they r bloody letting every tom dick and harry come to australia.. what a joke..
one part of the country is full of asians, one part muslims and i hate these dam Lebanese.. dun know whats gonna happen to australia in the coming years..
@screwuguys619 wooooow 11 sick other shits gave you the thumbs up......by the way....theres a big difference between a terrorist and a fraud......look them both up in the dictionary you ignorant low life.
@farza85 sweet cream on top on ice cream.. who in the blue hell r u.. well since u dont like what iv wriiten i can figure out that ur another muslim fag who is standing up for muslim rights.. lol.. listen douche bag, i dont have to learn from u to look for definitions in the dictionary, i wrote what i felt like writing and there is nothin u can do about it. And the video description is pretty clear, it is somehtin against muslims so why in the hell r u watchin this video.. piss off from here
@screwuguys619 and you get ur white ass out of australia and GIVE THE LAND BACK TO ABRIGNALS...and plus australias multi culltrul and there is need for education for all people so theres no choice...LEAVE MUSLIMS ALONE!
@Gangsterhi5 u fuckin cunt, u take ur stupid good for nothin terrorist fag ass out of my country.. u fuckin wankers r not welcome here so get the fuck out.. yes we took it from the aboriginals and that makes it ours.. and fuck multi cultural, muslims have no culture, all u dickheads know how to do is spread terror, breed like pigs and cse trouble.. so dont u dare tell me what to do, u get the fuck out and take ur scum bag scoundrels with u.
The Australian Labour party (and Liberal party) needs to stop funding faith schools -- those divisive and unnecessary indoctrination camps.
We do not need schools with a slant to a certain faith, anymore then we need schools with a slant to any other ideologies; like scientology/ communism etc.
i m muslim and i coundt agree more,, we should all go to public schools and learn bout everything other then religion,, religion isnt going to get u a real job..
@PR0GRAMMING what a load of crap. they are not divisive nor do they indoctrinate. I went to a christian school and I, like 90% of the senior students attending ended up atheist.
all private schools do is give parents a CHOICE about where they send their children so the schools have to compete in order to get the business and that means better educational outcomes for EVERYONE. if you stopped funding private schools it would cost the taxpayer a LOT more money to send them to public ones.
How dumb you are. Once you allow schools to propagate a narrow subset of religious beliefs, and teach them as fact, you will facilitate tribalism, indoctrination in brethren ideology, the opening up of more crack-pot schools: scientological schools. You'll also get people who take their religion far more seriously than the teachers at your schools. BTW, your personal experiences are not what a rational person would use to make general judgments. We need statistics.
@PR0GRAMMING@PR0GRAMMING its funny because you're the one making the big accusations of indoctrination without STATISTICS. so quite frankly the evidence that I've provided of a school of over 1000 students from religious backgrounds at a religious school, most of whom end up atheist by year 12 is far stronger than the NOTHING you've come up with.
people get indoctrinated by their parents. schools are nothing compared to them. you're just anti-choice because you want to tell people what to do.
Sir, do you know the definition of the word 'indoctrination'? You couldn't possibly, otherwise tripe like 'big accusations of indoctrination' wouldn't seep out of that uninspired mouth. Religious schools manifestly do teach made up nonsense as fact; and expect students to believe uncritically.
Now, until your IQ reaches the bare minimal to make some kind of useful point, could you please refrain from hitting the keys on the plastic keyboard ?
@PR0GRAMMING yes, you are anti-choice. you WANT to have the state force children to believe what YOU think they should believe while quite frankly it is absolutely none of your business. once the government starts messing with the free exercise of religion then it is a very slippery slope.
how about you mind your own business and leave people alone? the world would be a lot better place if idiots stopped caring about what everyone else thought.
Are you reading what I said? It's almost as if your prejudicially jumping to conclusions. Firstly, the state already forces children to adhere to a set of standards. This helps the chances of getting a good education, a human right, so they don't spend all day memorizing the contents of one book while they nod erratically like a parrot at a concrete wall. Secondly, why should parents set the education criterion of their child and not an extended reasoned consensus?
@PR0GRAMMING what a load of utter bullshit. students do not spend all day memorising the bible. you have obviously never been to a religious school in your life. why do you think they do so much better than state schools with final results? because they spend the majority of their time focussing on giving them an excellent education.
basically you're saying that the majority can impose their morals on the minority? sorry but that violates the democratic principal of minority rights.
How all-encompassing is your phrase 'anti-choice' stance? Should parents be allowed to construct a neo-nazi school and teach children total racial supremacy, embedded within a nazi-doctrine? Saying no would qualify your 'choice' option. We do, as a fact, already qualify this. A set of standards must be enforced in all schools. I think part of this standards should include comparative religion, that way, children will not be taught unsubstantiated things as facts.
@PR0GRAMMING you obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you believe it is the schools that indoctrinate children. a couple of lessens of religion a week will not make anyone believe anything. at the MOST it will only reinforce the views that they already have.
oh and the cases of nazi doctrine being taught in schools across the nation were as a direct result of the STATE enforcing a set of standards.
Jack. Your arguments are terrible and clearly the product of a simple mind. I don't know why you take the 'parents know best' line; they don't. A community consensus informed by reason might. And this babble about state-enforced education should always be mentioned alongside the fact that the political representatives were democratically elected - it would have to sit well with the people.
Your harping on about 'choice' is not the stunning rebuke you think it is either.
@PR0GRAMMING parents do not know what is best for their children? and the nanny state does? that is a very arrogant things to say and I dare you to tell that to a parent sometime. 'it would have to sit well with the people' so if all the people in australia thought that creationism was true do you think that gives them the right to ban evolution in the classrooms for everyone?
I'm not going to continue arguing with you as it is pointless. Your arguments are weak and confused. You seem to be making some point about the rights of parents educating their children. I, on the other hand, argue for the rights of their child to get a proper education - A human right.
So why you persist in arguing for the rights of a parent to funnel their child into any crackpottery their parents so please, count me out. I'll be defending the rights of the child.
@PR0GRAMMING 'Your arguments are weak and confused' that really is pathetic mate. rather than address each of my points refuting your arguments you just brush them off and say they're confused.
you obviously do not know what you're talking about but think YOU know what people should be forced to believe.
if all religious schools do is force children to memorise the bible like you claim then why the hell do you consistently do better than their public school counterparts?
@PR0GRAMMING * I meant why the hell do religious schools CONSISTENTLY prepare better far better than their state counterparts? why are their students better educated? if all they do is just read the bible like you claim then public schools which apparently focus all their energy on education should be massively outscoring them.
@PR0GRAMMING and yes I know I repeated myself a little in that comment, it was because I just could not believe how bitter and filled with spite you are. you are as bad as any religious zealot because just like them YOU want to control what children are taught and believe. you are no better than the nutjobs who want all children to be taught intelligent design for 'balance'. just like them, you want the state to meddle with how we are allowed to think.
You are truly unsophisticated. Of course I want to influence what children are taught. I don't want children taught, as fact, that the world is flat, created 6,000 yrs ago, and that homosexuals should be murdered. I want children taught comparative religion, analytical skills and other problem solving skills: skills that are as important, if not more so, than narrower fields of maths, and I want them embedded within standards.
@PR0GRAMMING 'You are truly unsophisticated' coming from the person who starts every comment with a personal attack? grow up mate.
the fact is that RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS DONT TEACH THAT SHIT. show me a private school that teaches that as a subject that has student which graduate and are eligible to go to university. show me, otherwise stop making things up that you obviously have no understanding of.
@PR0GRAMMING oh now i get it youre going through the anti-theistic phase of atheism. most of us went through it when we stop being religious. i know I went through it and was very anti-religion. went all around youtube picking fights with creationists. still get in arguments with them. the point is tho that at a certain point you realize that being an atheists means just that - without religion. it should not be a factor in your life. but when you focus on it so much it BECOMES part of your life
@PR0GRAMMING the fact is that each state already has a program of what students need to be taught in senior subjects if they are to be eligible to get into a university when they graduate. how long do you think a religious school will stay open if all it does is teach the bible and none of their students are eligible for uni? there will just be a lot of pissed off parents
@jacksjapaneseholiday you know its really pathetic how you try to shroud your obvious ignorance and bias on this topic with sad accusations. basically because I disagree with you on a topic you insults me. that is just sad. grow up, learn to mind your own business and realize at the end of the day the vast majority of parents know far better than a government bureaucrat what is best for their children. the government 'solution' frequently ends up being a damn lot worse than the original problem
astagfirullah...stop it! mr magar had done this all for us ok!!!....
do not say anything wen u dont even no anythin about it! okayy... whatever u wana say... say it in the day of ressurection. so allah swt can deal with u!!!
halu1halu 1 month ago
He's a fucking liar, lock him and the others up and shut the place down for good
shiningwhitedragon 2 months ago
school looool , of what ? what do they teach how to kill ,,come on stop this crap and just get them back
TheMusiclover52 2 months ago
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The Koran is written by a man . and Not a Godman or anything but a man.
Im a white dude and I can understand this.
I think its crap.
Learning History is really cool cause you can see its all The Same bullshit today.
Bibles printed as KingJames 1885 & on are MISSING LOTS & not worth reading. Brainwashing suckers is the name of the game.
Your Lost and they know You Are. Your Map has been Changed by Them.
Watch out for Bad Directions.
canadastreetmedia 5 months ago
The Koran is written by a man . and Not a Godman or anything but a man.
Im a white dude and I can understand this.
I think its crap.
Learning History is really cool cause you can see its all The Same bullshit today.
Bibles printed as KingJames 1885 & on are MISSING LOTS & not worth reading. Brainwashing suckers is the name of the game.
Your Lost and they know You Are. Your Map has been Changed by Them.
Watch out for Bad Directions.
canadastreetmedia 5 months ago
NUKE MECCA
Reddylion 9 months ago 2
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No Islamic schools! Then they can't teach them that awful ideology to hate us and not to obey our laws. Send them to Australian schools, so they may become Australians!!! A balance is needed! Ban islamic schools!
swissmaid 11 months ago
No Islamic schools! Then they can't teach them that awful ideology to hate us and not to obey our laws. Send them to Australian schools, so they may become Australians!!! Ban islamic schools!
swissmaid 11 months ago 4
@swissmaid Hear, hear!
Msunbird02 10 months ago
THIS just happened in CALGARY,CANADA...
chadberry75 1 year ago
ill rather die then be Muslim Australian government is blind deport those Muslim dogs
crazyazn171 1 year ago 5
The future of your children if you don't confront Islam NOW
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TheRockZH 1 year ago 2
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Robert Spencer /watch?v=SddesLgxzHM
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Douglas Murray /watch?v=6jOOa8yqie4
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TheRockZH 1 year ago
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PUT THEM IN JAIL THROW AWAY THE KEY AND DONT ALLOW ANY CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD EVER...
AngelicNaMo 1 year ago
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Hey aussies, how's that europhilia/utopian/mindless constant optimism/internationalist/ welfare-statist/liberal/nonstop immigration/political correct/bullshit way of life workin' out for you?
CornFedArmen 1 year ago
When you let LEECHES in, leeches is what you get!..(JD)Canada
Dapruex 1 year ago 3
OBVIOUSLY MUSLIMS!!!, DEVIL RELIGION
1Waddup 1 year ago 2
THEY ARE ALLOWED TO LIE TO THE INFIDEL... keep that in mind!...
Dapruex 1 year ago
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Dapruex 1 year ago
there should be no islamic schools in any civilized country .islam belongs in the desert where it came from
peppersdog1 1 year ago 2
@peppersdog1 agreed it is a primitive barbaric religion that has no place in laid back australia or any western country. look where it comes from there countries are disgusting they in turn bring it with them and slowly degenerate their new surroundings with their plague like religion, religion of peace ha ha whats peaceful about it? honour killings? beheading? community stonings? terrorism?its a religion governed by fear and punishment makes me sik just thinking about it. it has no place in aus
fyt4it 1 year ago
by the way......video maker........its not millions of "daughters" its dollars......common typo......
farza85 1 year ago
for all you know the govt is indirectly funding terrorists right in your backyard. do somethign mates! stop this before its too late!
allahbigbollocks 1 year ago
these muslims are infidels, hypocrites who are going straight to hell fire
QueerIslamicBoxer 1 year ago
Only a CATHOLIC STATE will resist your Islamisation!
Secular western governments - the same ones that answer your every 'right' - is now surrendering your land to Islam! Well they need to replace their ageing populations with younger ones to bolster themselves against China! Prepare for a Catholic State - or prepare for your burka!
amaqula 1 year ago
a challlenge to all muslim brothers and sisters:
mr.muhammad said in sura 2:282 that one male witness is equal to 2 female witnesses in
sharia court.
secular democratic laws say: they both are equal.
who gives women equal rights? you decide.
in the book 101 myths of the bible, Greenberg showed how biblical stories in jewish
bible had their origins in egyptian mythology.
christians and muslims later plagiarized the very same stories in their books.
THINK CRITICALLY
zulfitareen 2 years ago
WTF close all muslim schools. assimilate you donkeys or get the fuck out of Australia we dont want you or need you.
markyaz68 2 years ago 3
Islam is ALLA lies. A God who has to lie to promote its dogma is a liar. No lie is in truth.
GodsSeer 2 years ago
It's so sad that the Government actually believed ANYTHING these guys said. Do Muslims EVER tell the truth?
hibiscusgardens 2 years ago
Islam is a cancer on society. The fundamentalists just want to use the government to gain footholds by building schools and inplementing sharia law. Soon you will see predominantly Islamic societies springing up which do not support the countries they reside in. Then you'll see whats happening in France - Muslims who cause riots because they don't care about the "land of the infidels" or the people they regard as infidels. Do not be fooled by this devious religion. They say its peaceful?
aaronkehl 2 years ago 4
Saudi Arabia is spending billions of dollars throughout the world building mosques and establishing religious schools. If Australian Islamic schools are getting funding from the arabs, then perhaps a law should be established not to allow tax money to go them, which would give them a double advantage over any other religious school. I'd prefer there be no govt. funding whatsoever, but this could be a compromise propostition.
732CharlesM 2 years ago
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Australia has to end government subsidies to all religious schools. Thomas Jefferson got it right when he insisted on the separation of church and state. Why should I have to give my tax dollars to support Islam? We're just giving the country away to Moslems as they are doing in Europe. Petition your representatives for change.
732CharlesM 2 years ago
Australia has to end government subsidies to all religious schools. Thomas Jefferson got it right when he insisted on the separation of church and state. Why should I have to give my tax dollars to support Islam? We're just giving the country away to Moslems as they are doing in Europe. Petition your representatives for change.
732CharlesM 2 years ago
muslims should follow the chinese(generally budhists), Indians( hindus) and Filipinos(christians) as examples of good immigrants... these 3 nationalites have different cultures and beliefs yet they can blend in any form of societies and not causing any animosities towards the natives...
agentofchaos1 2 years ago
right
frenchguy09 2 years ago
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MegaBrits 2 years ago
History, & present day atrocities show Western civilizations what izlam is all about.
ie.- infiltrate, conspire, multiply, leech, intimidate, protest, kill,
- it's a pattern repeated over and over again,
and We, the free people of the West, are sick of izlam, & its slaves.
so, NO we will not tolerate you, or your fascist, misogynistic, hateful cult.
We will not leave you in peace, because we know what you are up to.
We will never respect you, because you do not deserve it.
mustafaweewee 2 years ago 5
u knw if i knew half of u id FUCK U ALL UP
TherealsaifullahG 2 years ago
Since muslims are usually uneducated lazy burdens on society, you can do little but pass out idle threats.
My channel has links to official UK gov stats proving muslims are the least educated most unemployable group in Britain.
Islam prevents muslims achieving high standards due to all the rubbish they have to remember at an early age, it hobbles their mind for life as statistics show.
ISLAM4THICKONES 2 years ago
Islam has absolutely no place whatsoever in a modern western democracy.
I find it an personal insult of earth shattering proportions, to everything that I represent as a proud democratic liberty loving Australian, that we even have Islamic hate mongers in this country.
It makes me furious.
tygasm 3 years ago 10
muslims shouldnt be in or country full stop get them the fuck out!!!
cardiffguy85 3 years ago 6
wow, that guy at the end doesn't ever blink!!!
lol
Totaly14 3 years ago
this piece of shit terrorist is driving on a bmw.. what the fuck is it with the oz govt. get these muslim fucks outts australia
screwuguys619 3 years ago 32
@screwuguys619 -- SO true mate... Australian goverment is fucking lost. When will they wake up and realise that just becasue we havent had any deaths relating to islamic extemists, dosnt mean we are immune. WE need to wake up and take action while we can and STOP the fuckers by banning all muslim immigrations
TEKNOSliberation 1 year ago
lol... its funny how australia works with immigration, its not like im against it, but they should bloody choose the right person who can fit in the australian society to come in.. but nahhh,, they r bloody letting every tom dick and harry come to australia.. what a joke..
one part of the country is full of asians, one part muslims and i hate these dam Lebanese.. dun know whats gonna happen to australia in the coming years..
screwuguys619 1 year ago
@screwuguys619 wooooow 11 sick other shits gave you the thumbs up......by the way....theres a big difference between a terrorist and a fraud......look them both up in the dictionary you ignorant low life.
farza85 1 year ago
@farza85 sweet cream on top on ice cream.. who in the blue hell r u.. well since u dont like what iv wriiten i can figure out that ur another muslim fag who is standing up for muslim rights.. lol.. listen douche bag, i dont have to learn from u to look for definitions in the dictionary, i wrote what i felt like writing and there is nothin u can do about it. And the video description is pretty clear, it is somehtin against muslims so why in the hell r u watchin this video.. piss off from here
screwuguys619 1 year ago
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Dapruex 1 year ago
@screwuguys619 and you get ur white ass out of australia and GIVE THE LAND BACK TO ABRIGNALS...and plus australias multi culltrul and there is need for education for all people so theres no choice...LEAVE MUSLIMS ALONE!
Gangsterhi5 1 year ago
@Gangsterhi5 u fuckin cunt, u take ur stupid good for nothin terrorist fag ass out of my country.. u fuckin wankers r not welcome here so get the fuck out.. yes we took it from the aboriginals and that makes it ours.. and fuck multi cultural, muslims have no culture, all u dickheads know how to do is spread terror, breed like pigs and cse trouble.. so dont u dare tell me what to do, u get the fuck out and take ur scum bag scoundrels with u.
screwuguys619 1 year ago 3
@Gangsterhi5 Since when did Australia belong to Aboriginals?
Msunbird02 10 months ago
idiots it is a real school!
you learn about religion as an extra
abdulr118 3 years ago
The Australian Labour party (and Liberal party) needs to stop funding faith schools -- those divisive and unnecessary indoctrination camps.
We do not need schools with a slant to a certain faith, anymore then we need schools with a slant to any other ideologies; like scientology/ communism etc.
PR0GRAMMING 3 years ago 21
you are ABSOLUTELY correct. this is a global problem and we must toughen up.
ADFX21 3 years ago 8
i m muslim and i coundt agree more,, we should all go to public schools and learn bout everything other then religion,, religion isnt going to get u a real job..
ArabsUnit 3 years ago 8
@ArabsUnit how dare u.. say that... u have to stand up 4 islam....but NO!!!! u'll see wat will happen to u in day of judgement!!!
halu1halu 1 month ago
@PR0GRAMMING Yes I agree faith schools are just to brainwash kids to believing in sky fairies.
MUHAMMADFUCKEDKIDS 1 year ago 2
@PR0GRAMMING what a load of crap. they are not divisive nor do they indoctrinate. I went to a christian school and I, like 90% of the senior students attending ended up atheist.
all private schools do is give parents a CHOICE about where they send their children so the schools have to compete in order to get the business and that means better educational outcomes for EVERYONE. if you stopped funding private schools it would cost the taxpayer a LOT more money to send them to public ones.
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@jacksjapaneseholiday
How dumb you are. Once you allow schools to propagate a narrow subset of religious beliefs, and teach them as fact, you will facilitate tribalism, indoctrination in brethren ideology, the opening up of more crack-pot schools: scientological schools. You'll also get people who take their religion far more seriously than the teachers at your schools. BTW, your personal experiences are not what a rational person would use to make general judgments. We need statistics.
PR0GRAMMING 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING @PR0GRAMMING its funny because you're the one making the big accusations of indoctrination without STATISTICS. so quite frankly the evidence that I've provided of a school of over 1000 students from religious backgrounds at a religious school, most of whom end up atheist by year 12 is far stronger than the NOTHING you've come up with.
people get indoctrinated by their parents. schools are nothing compared to them. you're just anti-choice because you want to tell people what to do.
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@jacksjapaneseholiday
Sir, do you know the definition of the word 'indoctrination'? You couldn't possibly, otherwise tripe like 'big accusations of indoctrination' wouldn't seep out of that uninspired mouth. Religious schools manifestly do teach made up nonsense as fact; and expect students to believe uncritically.
Now, until your IQ reaches the bare minimal to make some kind of useful point, could you please refrain from hitting the keys on the plastic keyboard ?
PR0GRAMMING 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING yes, you are anti-choice. you WANT to have the state force children to believe what YOU think they should believe while quite frankly it is absolutely none of your business. once the government starts messing with the free exercise of religion then it is a very slippery slope.
how about you mind your own business and leave people alone? the world would be a lot better place if idiots stopped caring about what everyone else thought.
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@jacksjapaneseholiday
Are you reading what I said? It's almost as if your prejudicially jumping to conclusions. Firstly, the state already forces children to adhere to a set of standards. This helps the chances of getting a good education, a human right, so they don't spend all day memorizing the contents of one book while they nod erratically like a parrot at a concrete wall. Secondly, why should parents set the education criterion of their child and not an extended reasoned consensus?
PR0GRAMMING 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING what a load of utter bullshit. students do not spend all day memorising the bible. you have obviously never been to a religious school in your life. why do you think they do so much better than state schools with final results? because they spend the majority of their time focussing on giving them an excellent education.
basically you're saying that the majority can impose their morals on the minority? sorry but that violates the democratic principal of minority rights.
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@jacksjapaneseholiday
How all-encompassing is your phrase 'anti-choice' stance? Should parents be allowed to construct a neo-nazi school and teach children total racial supremacy, embedded within a nazi-doctrine? Saying no would qualify your 'choice' option. We do, as a fact, already qualify this. A set of standards must be enforced in all schools. I think part of this standards should include comparative religion, that way, children will not be taught unsubstantiated things as facts.
PR0GRAMMING 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING you obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you believe it is the schools that indoctrinate children. a couple of lessens of religion a week will not make anyone believe anything. at the MOST it will only reinforce the views that they already have.
oh and the cases of nazi doctrine being taught in schools across the nation were as a direct result of the STATE enforcing a set of standards.
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@jacksjapaneseholiday
Jack. Your arguments are terrible and clearly the product of a simple mind. I don't know why you take the 'parents know best' line; they don't. A community consensus informed by reason might. And this babble about state-enforced education should always be mentioned alongside the fact that the political representatives were democratically elected - it would have to sit well with the people.
Your harping on about 'choice' is not the stunning rebuke you think it is either.
PR0GRAMMING 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING parents do not know what is best for their children? and the nanny state does? that is a very arrogant things to say and I dare you to tell that to a parent sometime. 'it would have to sit well with the people' so if all the people in australia thought that creationism was true do you think that gives them the right to ban evolution in the classrooms for everyone?
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@jacksjapaneseholiday
I'm not going to continue arguing with you as it is pointless. Your arguments are weak and confused. You seem to be making some point about the rights of parents educating their children. I, on the other hand, argue for the rights of their child to get a proper education - A human right.
So why you persist in arguing for the rights of a parent to funnel their child into any crackpottery their parents so please, count me out. I'll be defending the rights of the child.
PR0GRAMMING 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING 'Your arguments are weak and confused' that really is pathetic mate. rather than address each of my points refuting your arguments you just brush them off and say they're confused.
you obviously do not know what you're talking about but think YOU know what people should be forced to believe.
if all religious schools do is force children to memorise the bible like you claim then why the hell do you consistently do better than their public school counterparts?
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING * I meant why the hell do religious schools CONSISTENTLY prepare better far better than their state counterparts? why are their students better educated? if all they do is just read the bible like you claim then public schools which apparently focus all their energy on education should be massively outscoring them.
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING and yes I know I repeated myself a little in that comment, it was because I just could not believe how bitter and filled with spite you are. you are as bad as any religious zealot because just like them YOU want to control what children are taught and believe. you are no better than the nutjobs who want all children to be taught intelligent design for 'balance'. just like them, you want the state to meddle with how we are allowed to think.
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@jacksjapaneseholiday
You are truly unsophisticated. Of course I want to influence what children are taught. I don't want children taught, as fact, that the world is flat, created 6,000 yrs ago, and that homosexuals should be murdered. I want children taught comparative religion, analytical skills and other problem solving skills: skills that are as important, if not more so, than narrower fields of maths, and I want them embedded within standards.
A decent education is a human right!
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PR0GRAMMING 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING 'You are truly unsophisticated' coming from the person who starts every comment with a personal attack? grow up mate.
the fact is that RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS DONT TEACH THAT SHIT. show me a private school that teaches that as a subject that has student which graduate and are eligible to go to university. show me, otherwise stop making things up that you obviously have no understanding of.
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING oh now i get it youre going through the anti-theistic phase of atheism. most of us went through it when we stop being religious. i know I went through it and was very anti-religion. went all around youtube picking fights with creationists. still get in arguments with them. the point is tho that at a certain point you realize that being an atheists means just that - without religion. it should not be a factor in your life. but when you focus on it so much it BECOMES part of your life
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING the fact is that each state already has a program of what students need to be taught in senior subjects if they are to be eligible to get into a university when they graduate. how long do you think a religious school will stay open if all it does is teach the bible and none of their students are eligible for uni? there will just be a lot of pissed off parents
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@jacksjapaneseholiday you know its really pathetic how you try to shroud your obvious ignorance and bias on this topic with sad accusations. basically because I disagree with you on a topic you insults me. that is just sad. grow up, learn to mind your own business and realize at the end of the day the vast majority of parents know far better than a government bureaucrat what is best for their children. the government 'solution' frequently ends up being a damn lot worse than the original problem
jacksjapaneseholiday 1 year ago
@PR0GRAMMING labour is piss liberal is shit i dont know what to do anymore
B4IRUTUARU16 1 year ago