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  • wow.... some of you people sound pationate about what occured in this race. Try sounding more inteligent. Knox congrats, moitessier anyone who wants to know why he abandoned the race read the long way. Moitessier showed true passion for what he was doing and also gave his competitors and friends the upmost respect. try to make friends with the gods you wont regret it.

  • RIP Nigel Tetley. The overwhelming sympathy that Crowhurst now seems to get has completely obscured not only Tetley's extraordinary achievement but also his tragic death (the details of which are in Chris Eakin's excellent 2009 book A Race Too Far).

  • What kind of dreaded sea is that at 2:27 and counting??? It looks like a damn river rapid!!!

  • unlike most of the contributers I know Knox, having been the Personnel officer who promoted him to Chief Officer in BI. This was between bringing Suhaili back from India and his first circumnavigation. He would have failed if he was less single-minded, but I am sure that he is not a liar.

  • Moitessier might just be my hero

  • Tubelogin, are you aware how silly and childish you sound? Like an angry, proud child. Your statements are not truths— they are not even truths in your own mind. They are just some thoughts, passing around like bits of plankton in the water. And rather less valuable than plankton, as well.

  • You have a big mouth. You throw insults around like it is no problem. Calling someone's mother out is not proper. If I ever meet you in person, you will remember me.

  • The first person to circumnavigate single handed was the American Slocombe (not sure of spelling) in the 1890's. The first person to solo without landing, and return to his point of departure was Knox. The classic example of a misleading claim is that Magellen was the first to circumnavigate the world. Not so, he died on the way, but the captain of the only ship in his fleet to finish the voyage, never gets credit. I think you have to return to your departure to call it circumnavigation.

  • Slocum. Joshua Slocum.

  • we are amazing as a country we have done more and achieved more than any other country we have more to be pround of than any other country fucking accept it its hard when a country is a leader of this world there will always be haters just like urself get over it we are great

  • u know what u sound like a fuckin idiot man u also sound like a fuckin twisted retard the words u use to describe england are both twisted and borderlining on being psychotic are u sure ur not a fucking mass murderer hahah cause u sound like ur completely twisted in the head maybe u should go see a psychiatrist

  • yeah whatever i havent got time for this pathetic shit go sort urself out and try and calm urself down uve lost ur mind

  • the REAL winner is Moittesier because he spoke the damn truth. europe, money, capitalism, races, fame, competition, the whole damn western discivilisation is disgusting and right to make one vomit.

    He gave up his 5000 pound prize and buggered off to South Pacific where there's more peace and heart than in the dirty eurotrash western vampiric civilisation of child murderers, liars, war criminals, and colonising swine.

  • who the fuck knows what knox did? knowing the damn english, knox may've whiled away in the atlantic too.

    BTW, ridgley admitted to having those plans too to hide out, fake logs, and return like a hero but was dismasted so it's hard to say.

    chichester's the same tale. '82, '86 races were swept by the french sailing elite. the britz are just silly liars, cheats, little US slags.

  • what the fuck are u talking about u silly twat why dont u calm down alittle and stop slagging off england, aint nuthing wrong with english u ignorant fuck ur just as bad as the eurotrash western vampiric civilisation of child murderers, liars, war criminals, and colonising swine that u talk about.

  • england has contributed an awful lot to this world what the fuck has ur country done nuthing if u dont like it fuck off we conquered the world and have alotta things to be proud of im sick of people like you who put down my country just because we are actually a fucking great country we were the ones who came up with the fucking idea to have a round the world yacht race if u didnt want to return to civilisation cause ur brain got fucked up as a result of 10 months at sea dont blame england

  • what a fucking stupid cunt u really are i dont know who u are mate but u seriously need to get a fucking life u are probably a french dickhead as all french people are just like you u think u know about everything and u always think ur right about everything go and stick ur attiude up ur french ass u are a complete asshole man its people like u who bring alotta hate into this world people like u who are just like nazis but u dont fucking realise it fuck off

  • if you dont like the english so much stop writing in our language and write in ur own fucking language

  • knox-johnston did not cower in the Atlantic..he made the circumnav..he was spotted in various different places during the race by ships..and you can fake ships logs, but it's impossible to fake them 100%..thats why crowhurst commited suicide..he faked his logs but knowing he was certain to get 2nd position he knew his logs would come under close scrutiny..he could'nt live with the shame of being exposed as a cheat..and what's your problem with us brits dude?

  • see above regarding the problem with england.

    crowhurst got caught in Brazil and the gaffe was blown. but Ridgley admitted to having the same plan. the idea to snake around the commitment was known to all. i dont trust the britzie lying scum to sit on the toilet the right way. that's all.

    the first to circumnav is B Moitessier! here you go again lying your english bullshit again. knox mightve won the challenge but Bernard was firt to solo circumnavigate. accept it, you loser britzie.

  • actually the first to circumnav alone was Francis Chichester..and dude..i'm not english, i'm Welsh..so you can say anything you want about the English, I don't give a toss

  • no, he wasnt. see that's that anglo perverted history creeping in again. whats next? newton invented gravity?

    look, chichester had a stop. Moitessier is the first to solo circum nav the earth. britz and their elite navies can go bugger themselves.

    welch? why the hell do you aid the anglo bitch then? they raped you, genocided you, they have prince of wales in london. that's not a compliment! they use wales for language BBC racist jokes.

    you oughtta stand tall and kick the anglo sack too.

  • unfortunately dude..history does not go by what you say..you have no idea what you are talking about..you are clearly insane dude..go get help!

  • well, no. it's you whose as brainless as a yank.

  • oh yeah dude..get you're facts straight..crowhurst landed in rio salgado argentina for repairs, not brazil..and yeah he would have been disqualified..but in fact he was not caught then..the people on the shore did not know he was in the race at the time.

  • what are you blabbing about? yes they did. he told them and the brazil navy knew. he parked right in front of navy shack there. he gave wrong names in attempt to lie but told them anyway about the race. his name and repairs are in the navy log books. he'd be blown to bits had he come back and claimed he made without stops.

  • It was definitely Argentina dude..It was Rio Salado!

  • stop worrying whether he put to port in brazil or argentina. the point is he violated the rules and had southAm navy know it.

    in general, the anglo bitches have raped you and your welch family so long you're more brainwashed than most of the london sewage.

    1) chichester had a stop. not a solo circumnav then!

    2) first to solo circumnav is Bernard Moitessier

    3) knox achievement pale both in sailing and personally being a classist bastard

    4) most UK sailors thought about hiding out like crowhurst

  • just because chichester made a stop in sydney, does'nt mean he did'nt sail solo..when he was at sea he was on his own you berk! you have a real attitude problem with us don't you..jerk off! stop trolling vids and do something decent. which country are you from anyway?

  • OK last time with your moron arse.

    putting to port means he did NOT circumnavigate. it means he sailed solo to sydney and then on after a long rest. that's all.

    the first to solo circumnavigate is B Moitessier. That is the record and it belongs to France.

    Britzies and their colony of dickheads like you can go bugger each other with your anglo bullshit tales of cheats, knox classists, and perverts who rewrite history in favour of the bloody stupid island poodles.

  • Like I said dude..you need helping..you're living in a fantasy world..you did'nt answer my question dicksplat..which country are you from?

  • He's from Anguilla, and hes a predujiced piece of shit; if anyone is a nazi, its him.

  • You clearly know nothing. The world disagrees with you.

    From wikipedia's entry on Moitessier, which I trust more than a cheese eating internet surrender monkey:

    "Although Moitessier stood a very good chance of winning, he abandoned his effort seven months into the race" "Sir Robin Knox-Johnston went on to both win the race and become the first man to circumnavigate the globe alone without stopping".

    You're just upset about the Battle of Trafalgar. And Waterloo and Agincourt.

  • And in fact the only reason Crowhurst drifted in the Atlantic was because Teignmouth Electron was so hastily built it was practically falling apart..I seriously doubt she would have survived the Roaring Forties.

  • The Teignmouth Electron (Donald Crowhurst's boat) was just sold this month to an american artist. It has been sitiing on a lonely beach for 25yrs, falling apart. A new chapter of this story begins.....

  • Thanks that's really interesting to know. I had heard that the boat had been used as a charter boat by some people who are running a dive business locally. And a lady who is an artist made a documentary about the boat but I don't know if it's the same lady who has bought it. I have a feeling that the first artist was English. Can I ask what your interest in the boat is?

    Tim

  • How Crowhurst he must have felt out there alone on the ocean, only him knowing the mistake he had made and the coverup he attempted. What agony it must have been for him making the decision to never return to his family and loved ones. They said he went mad, but the perceived difference between madness and adventure is whether or not you are successful. Crowhurst was a man with an impossible dream - I can't help but be drawn to that.

  • I agree with you.But it's interesting that all of the other blokes later achieve circumnavigations. I don't know if you have read the book about Crowhurst "the strange last voyage..." It was a bit hard on him. I think he was disturbed but honourable and that's why he couldn't go back - Tim

  • I agree, Tim. I just got back from 'Deep Water'. It's playing here in LA (Nuart theatre) - I'm a big tough guy, but it almost brought me to tears. I'll have to check Amazon for the book - Hugh

  • Another book you might like to read, Hugh, is The Long Way by Bernard Moitessier, it's the one that got me into all this stuff 25 years ago. He finishes his trip in Tahiti. A mate of mine and keen sailor was by chance berthed a couple of boats away. He's got some great stories about about BM. I also am friends with Loick Fougeron, a fine bloke, heart of gold and made of steel. He too tells some good tales about the race. Tim

  • Good to hear Tetleys voice again - He used to vist my father often - I used to go on to his boat whilst it was in preparation for the race - At the age of eight I would sit inside with him and his girlfriend Eve who I had a crush on.Ha! My father was a friend and after the circumnavigation he did a slide show and narration in his basement for just me and my father. His death was a shock

  • That a lovely story. I have much respect for Nigel Tetley as do the other other competitors in the race.

    Loick Fougeron and Bernard Moitessier got to know him very well whist they were preparing there boats together. They were very fond of him. Do you have any of those photos?

    I made this film 8 years ago, I'd still like to see a full lenght film made. I know about "deep water" but I live in Australia now and it hasn't been released here. Cheers Tim

  • Once the main reinforcing work had been done on Victress it moved from Hooe to Milbay Docks where Moitessier was.Its funny as my father Nigal and another chap moved their yachts from Whitby to Plymouth between 1965 and 1967. Nigel moved first Then my father with his job and then a friend of both - The yachts being Nigels Victress - Ziska my fathers yacht and Ludana Fred Bessants. Ziska is now rebuilt in the USA see my youtube sightand Ludana is in Holland used for team building events.

  • @tkatim. I recommend Chris Eakin's excellent 2009 book A Race Too Far - Tetley's widow Eve was extensively interviewed and it covers all the Golden Globe entrants. IMO too much attention has been paid to Crowhurst (and the re-casting of him as a some kind of philosopher-hero is also IMO a bit sickening) atthe expense of the fascinating- and in this case also tragic - stories of the others.

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