Johnson rifles are awesome. When I was a kid they were dime a dozen. I remember seeing them for $250 at the Great Western gun show. My dad was regular army and wouldn't have one because they were "Marine rifles". By the time I was old enough to have a job and buy my own they had thinned out plus I had discovered beer and girls. Now you can't touch these things for less than $5k.
I've often wondered how the '41 would have performed if it had been subject to the long product improvement cycle of the Garand.
It's a long process to properly clean a Garand. With the M1941, you simply remove the barrel and clean it from the breech end, nearly impossible to do with a Garand.
The M1941 was never a serious contender for US adoption, although it was used in small numbers by the Marine Corps as a stopgap automatic rifle pending the arrival of large numbers of Garands.
shorter more compact then guarnad but issues here are reload the maginze reminds me of the Kraig jorggans and some the rmy old guard if they were old enough ti remeber it probably saw that in this beauty and were scared of the kraig issue playing out again even with strippers
The barrel moves back slightly because of recoil, after the barrel moves back the tiny distance (its less then 1cm) the bolt rotates slightly to even further delay the round then it moves backwards.
???? When did the 30.06 start off as a 7mm Mauser? If anything, it would be closer to the 8x57 IS. This rifle was in direct competition with the Garand. Army Ordance chose the Garand over this, mainly because of the heavy investment in the Garands development. If this gun had utilized the BAR's 20 rnd magazine (like had originally been proposed) this may have been the top US gun. But...it didn't and that's now history. Upkeep was a pain.
I read in this magazine called "Small Arms Review" that when the Johnson failed to win the competition to win the contract to replace the Springfield bolt action rifle, The Dutch govt in what is now Indonesia placed orders in 7mm. But because the Japanese invaded & occupied the then colony, the rifles intended for the colony where re-chambered to .30-06.
@phildaguy There was never a competition. Garand was accepted in 1936 and tooled-up/in production by 1939. The Gas-Trap Garand was giving the Army issues so they redesigned, reworked, rebarreled all guns then-made. Johnson, whose prototype was available by 1939, took advantage and lambasted the Army and demanded his gun be tested. It tested equal to the Garand in most respects, inferior in some. Garands were already being produced. End of story.
@littleboyrobert1997 the garand inspired the johnson rifle garand started replacing the springfield in i believe 1936 the johnson 1941 rifle was just being designed in 1939
@arevalosocom I totally agree! I have both and find the M1941 Johnson S/A Rifle to be far superior as a shooter. However, one of the beiggest drawbacks to the Johnson is the complexity of its magazine and in the field it takes a lot longer to field strip and clean than a garand.
close but not exact the johnson was a early design before the garand the usmc liked and used the johnson until the garand witch was a full gas operated rifle took over because of a better design they bolth fire 30/06 and are very accurate. for more info go to mag30ths channel and watch the WWII m1941 johnson @ 420 yards on the info bar there is a whole bunch of history and comparison.
@shinymarshtop2 I have both weapons and I would have to say I prefer my Johnson M1941 to my M1 Garand; however, the biggest complaint that most US Marines during WWII had with the Johnson, was not with its performance, but it's maintenance. The rotary magazine was a nightmare to clean in the jungle environment of the South Pacific. The Garand is a far easier weapon to keep clean and functional than the Johnson M1941.
MY johnson shoot better than any thing I have but the final bolt does not stay opened its a marine issue in good hape sn-3369 with no prefix letters
MrGeorgerome 3 months ago
My bot does not stay open after final shot marine issue no prefix number sn-3369
MrGeorgerome 3 months ago
The old man that lives across the street from my friend has one in excellent condition, very cool rifle.
GodnCountry65 4 months ago
Johnson rifles are awesome. When I was a kid they were dime a dozen. I remember seeing them for $250 at the Great Western gun show. My dad was regular army and wouldn't have one because they were "Marine rifles". By the time I was old enough to have a job and buy my own they had thinned out plus I had discovered beer and girls. Now you can't touch these things for less than $5k.
WurledPeas 5 months ago
the jonny gun......
TheAlexagius 6 months ago
I've often wondered how the '41 would have performed if it had been subject to the long product improvement cycle of the Garand.
It's a long process to properly clean a Garand. With the M1941, you simply remove the barrel and clean it from the breech end, nearly impossible to do with a Garand.
The M1941 was never a serious contender for US adoption, although it was used in small numbers by the Marine Corps as a stopgap automatic rifle pending the arrival of large numbers of Garands.
tsmgguy 7 months ago
shorter more compact then guarnad but issues here are reload the maginze reminds me of the Kraig jorggans and some the rmy old guard if they were old enough ti remeber it probably saw that in this beauty and were scared of the kraig issue playing out again even with strippers
kullas924 8 months ago
Saw one of these for sale at a gun shop for $6,000. I wish I had $6,000.
gamerkid1177 9 months ago
wow like no recoil
TheJasonDR 9 months ago
So how do I borrow this rifle to shoot it at Camp Perry during the Vintage and Garand match? I'm serious.
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Blackfork6 10 months ago
ive seen thoughs in a gun show before kinda want one right now but would rather have a m1 carbine
MasterJokoth 1 year ago
boy can you imagine someone comin at you with that thing id be movin
speck444 1 year ago
Garand is a better rifle
MCGCRifleman 1 year ago
so the whole barrel recoils here? or no? i dont quite understad the system yet. i feel like id need to see one in person to grasp it.ha
RebelliousPatriot 1 year ago
@RebelliousPatriot
The barrel moves back slightly because of recoil, after the barrel moves back the tiny distance (its less then 1cm) the bolt rotates slightly to even further delay the round then it moves backwards.
xGothimox 1 year ago
tactical shortpants!!!
phoenixsonoma 1 year ago
I'm positively sure your Johnson rifle started out as a 7mm Mauser round.
phildaguy 1 year ago
@phildaguy @phildaguy
???? When did the 30.06 start off as a 7mm Mauser? If anything, it would be closer to the 8x57 IS. This rifle was in direct competition with the Garand. Army Ordance chose the Garand over this, mainly because of the heavy investment in the Garands development. If this gun had utilized the BAR's 20 rnd magazine (like had originally been proposed) this may have been the top US gun. But...it didn't and that's now history. Upkeep was a pain.
Badco99 1 year ago
I read in this magazine called "Small Arms Review" that when the Johnson failed to win the competition to win the contract to replace the Springfield bolt action rifle, The Dutch govt in what is now Indonesia placed orders in 7mm. But because the Japanese invaded & occupied the then colony, the rifles intended for the colony where re-chambered to .30-06.
phildaguy 1 year ago
@phildaguy There was never a competition. Garand was accepted in 1936 and tooled-up/in production by 1939. The Gas-Trap Garand was giving the Army issues so they redesigned, reworked, rebarreled all guns then-made. Johnson, whose prototype was available by 1939, took advantage and lambasted the Army and demanded his gun be tested. It tested equal to the Garand in most respects, inferior in some. Garands were already being produced. End of story.
asams10 1 year ago
@littleboyrobert1997 the garand inspired the johnson rifle garand started replacing the springfield in i believe 1936 the johnson 1941 rifle was just being designed in 1939
AirsoftPaintball94 1 year ago
I've always admired the 1941 Johnson - would be happy to add one to the collection someday.
Hurricane810kr 2 years ago
that rifle is a big thing. a sweet thing
kjsh987 2 years ago
how would this rifle be compared to a garand
shinymarshtop2 2 years ago
I have fired both and would prefer the 1941 johnson any day of the week. IMHO.
arevalosocom 2 years ago
@arevalosocom I totally agree! I have both and find the M1941 Johnson S/A Rifle to be far superior as a shooter. However, one of the beiggest drawbacks to the Johnson is the complexity of its magazine and in the field it takes a lot longer to field strip and clean than a garand.
roopr 1 year ago
@arevalosocom Why?
TheBelva85 1 year ago
close but not exact the johnson was a early design before the garand the usmc liked and used the johnson until the garand witch was a full gas operated rifle took over because of a better design they bolth fire 30/06 and are very accurate. for more info go to mag30ths channel and watch the WWII m1941 johnson @ 420 yards on the info bar there is a whole bunch of history and comparison.
IKEFOOTBALL77 2 years ago
@shinymarshtop2 I have both weapons and I would have to say I prefer my Johnson M1941 to my M1 Garand; however, the biggest complaint that most US Marines during WWII had with the Johnson, was not with its performance, but it's maintenance. The rotary magazine was a nightmare to clean in the jungle environment of the South Pacific. The Garand is a far easier weapon to keep clean and functional than the Johnson M1941.
roopr 2 years ago
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nruddle5 2 years ago
you should read the story of Marine
Capt. Johnson-
also read about the Marines Raiders- skull and bones of WWII- the rifle saw combat in the bay of pigs and early Nam with Army S. Forces
dberry999666 2 years ago
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nruddle5 2 years ago
ehhhh, BRETT FAVRE!!!!!!!!!
rubenswitzer 2 years ago
LOL!
arevalosocom 2 years ago
You shoot that rifle like an apologist.
spraynpray 2 years ago