Oldwhitehouse metal storm is adaptable to any caliber including missiles. It is great as an anti missile system but works just as well as tank cannons or missile pods on fighters/bombers as well as being adaptable to hand held firearms with practically no recoil and incredible fire rate. Lol it will defeniatly be deployed if it hasn't already.
If Metal Storm has any kind of a future it's in missile defense and since missiles are slated to replace guns as missile defense platforms it seems highly improbable that Metal Storm will ever see deployment.
The video isn't really accurate. Metal storm technology has a much higher rate of fire than that, it unloads the entire magazine before recoil rocks the weapon. In this video it is shooting much slower and the recoil is moving the weapon while it's still shooting.
@UCDEamon yeah yeah, now lets see you reload that damn thing while under fire. Same with the personel weapons...it's fucking muzzle loader and that is teh most damnably SLOW way to reload ever. BTDT...
tanks don't drift... the turn on the spot but they don't drift, way to much friction and they don't go fast enough. also, metal storm is a bitch to reload, it's best used for disposable things, so i don't expect to see something like that.
well dam, i guess they can drift on snow and ice and i suppose it would depend on the type of sand. if it was loose enough it could. in general that they don't though
@FogerRox My father drove M1A1/2's for 10 years, hes told me that the instructors tell you explicitly not to take on a turn at top speed, as for two problems, 1) You'll put far too much strain on the axles and road wheels. 2) You'll most like TEAR THE OPPOSING TRACK OFF. therefore a tank drifting is as intelligent as flying a plane through a wall.
Your years of experience tell you this? Look up any video of a T-80U on a proving ground. Modern tanks are as fast as highway cars, and they drift, and they'll get air. The Abrams is a 1500HP gas turbine (basically a jet engine) pushing around 70 tons like it was styrofoam. You need to stop watching so many movies.
As for Metalstorm, the machine gun shut a lot of people up in 1914. This will do the same.
The Abrams catches air over a berm. In fact I know a certain Gunny who claims he can jump his M1, and shoot in mid air, and hit his target 3000 ft away.
@NuclearArbitor Shows what you know...they do so, as does the M113 (barely older than me) But obviously when I was sitting there watching that M1 and later an M1A1 and later STILL an M1A2(block 20) I was seeing a hologram AND I damn sure didn't see that M113A3 drifting...because I was too busy driving the fucking thing. While we are at it nimrod...I know for a fact that an M35As WITH a water buffalo on the back can drift also...I don't recommend it as your undies tend to bunch afterward.
I believe one of the characters said "what was that last bang" when a kiloton range nuclear explosion went off. The firing mechanism was describes as concussion inducing.
For those of you commenting about the uslessness of tank mounted metalstorm systems this system is used in a fiction book by John Ringo. It is designed to destroy heavily armored air unites i.e. spaceships
Oh and the very fact that it turns side ways to its most vulnerable attitude (in respect to recoil as displayed) is boviously another aesthetic and would have nothing to do with how it would potentially operate in the field.
P.S. The idea of using multitudes of drone helicopters would create a phenominal requirement for computing power, in addition to maintenance and deployment. The tank would be a cheap way out and add the benefit of local human judgement.
You freakin dingleberries. Surely the tank commander (lets assume there is one for hypothetical reasons) would consider the need for holding rounds, or the need for releasing them (duh). The need to let off so many rounds at once could be explained as simply as bunker busting. In addition there could be a mix of rounds contained in the barrel to address the theoretical construction of the target as gathered from intelligence. Its a nice animation made to look good for the sake of it.
You don't need a nuke, that's just the most famous way.
In fact, they have EMP bombs, that's all it does, is release EMP. Won't do anything to anyone standing five feet away from it, but anything electronic will fry within several miles.
true ,just resrched it ferther, NNEMP could disable a metalstorm but if combined with a ADWS(area denial weopon system,also metal storm) the missles or even low powered nukes wouldn't be able to get close enoth
A fair sized EMP bomb detonated at an alititude of about 300 miles AGL could disable most of the electronics in North America. They WOULD be able to get close enough. And a nuke going at sufficient speed would get through before the Metal Storm could locate, target, and kill it.
fair enough, but ADWS's shoot heli out of the sky by shooting the roters because the hull is too slow, plus the targeting system and firing system where partly desighed to kill nukes
Where did I say anything about a helicopter? Helicopters can't go that high anyway. It would be a rocket, and Metal Storm can't reach up 300 miles anyway.
If the electronics are inside the turret they have been hardened against emp. While in no way making them immune to emp it means NNEMP would have to get pretty close to the target.
EMP stands for Electro-Magnetic Pulse. EMP causes electronic devices from cars to wristwatches to fry. One of the very, very few exceptions to this is if all it is is a battery and a switch.
There are ways to shield, or harden, electronics against EMP. This is used in airplanes, military, and government Devices.
Yeah it'd be like taking the main gun from an abrams, and putting... I dunno, was it 100? (I don't remember the numbers from the books.) and firing them all within about 2 seconds of each other. Basically it's, like, pointless in today's battleground.
what about a massive artillery battery with this, i own stock in metal storm, and their system works by stacking rounds, so in that tank u could hold 50-100 or more 155mm shells , the tank would have to probably be grounded for recoil. Not sure if its necessary, 500 little drone choppers with metal storm 3gl's would probably do more good in todays war
no doubt that it has a future, but in what capacity? i dont think it would be wise to blow off all your ammo in a few seconds in a tank. Maybe hook it up to some sort of battle wagon/truck filled with several hundred or thousand rounds
Artillery guns would probably be the best way to go. MetalStorm would not work in tanks or small arms. Normally with artillery, they have a supply train for ammunition and fuel, which would help.
On the note of infantry weapons, having all the rounds stacked in the barrel would cause a huge amount of weight towards that one end. And to reload would require either filling up the barrel with rounds, incredibly dangerous. Or replacing the barrel alltogether.
If you must replace the barrel to reload, then you would need to carry many, many barrels, which would be much, much heavier than simple magazines, and with less rounds in the barrel.
Basically, MetalStorm is good for anti-aircraft/anti-artillery, actually on aircraft, for area denial, and as actual artillery.
Metal Storm is a very good concept...I like the concept of software integration and M.S. weapons on airraft... imagine flying over @ 600miles/hour, and implementin/utilizing 400 downward (90 degrees relative to the wing)pointing barrels with 10 rds of lets say 12.7X101mm (ok, forgive my cartridge designation, I am fond of Russian/ Serbian .50 caliber, the US is 12.7X99mm)explosive ammo, and firing all that within 1.5 to 2 seconds as u r flyin right above such a target
this, I think, would suck, because you have one shot with it and then you have to bug out. Good luck doing said maneuver if you don't have any other weapon to suppress the enemy with during retreat.
Although, it would be great in combined arms supported by infantry and real tanks. Only the big armies have that kind of training, though.
in the battlefield looks has nothing to do with win or lose. MetalStorm has been around for a while now just caught the eye of military in the past few years. First working MetalStorm was the multi-ammo pistol which carrys ammo of many types, .22 to 45. It is electronic fire which the ammos are stacked on top of each other.
you americans can thank australia for the weapon now as it has just been put into use for the first time in a combat situation with the australian sas and it KICKED ARSE
Yeah! I like the books. I actually watched this vid before reading the books, so my imagination while reading was very vivid. :D
demonkoryu 1 year ago
Oldwhitehouse metal storm is adaptable to any caliber including missiles. It is great as an anti missile system but works just as well as tank cannons or missile pods on fighters/bombers as well as being adaptable to hand held firearms with practically no recoil and incredible fire rate. Lol it will defeniatly be deployed if it hasn't already.
cbagdonas 1 year ago
If Metal Storm has any kind of a future it's in missile defense and since missiles are slated to replace guns as missile defense platforms it seems highly improbable that Metal Storm will ever see deployment.
oldwhitehouse 1 year ago
The video isn't really accurate. Metal storm technology has a much higher rate of fire than that, it unloads the entire magazine before recoil rocks the weapon. In this video it is shooting much slower and the recoil is moving the weapon while it's still shooting.
UCDEamon 2 years ago
@UCDEamon
Metalstorm has whatever rate of fire you want it to have which is appropriate to the application and the ammunition type.
SigmaSixxx 1 year ago
@UCDEamon yeah yeah, now lets see you reload that damn thing while under fire. Same with the personel weapons...it's fucking muzzle loader and that is teh most damnably SLOW way to reload ever. BTDT...
GrigoriZhukov 9 months ago
woooooow i had no ide a that ther were idi=iots such as u in this world
ObviouslySATAN 2 years ago
what a crappy and unlogic simulation
Scorpac 2 years ago
The fact that you used the word "unlogic" proves you are an idiot.
EnigmaHood 2 years ago
tanks don't drift... the turn on the spot but they don't drift, way to much friction and they don't go fast enough. also, metal storm is a bitch to reload, it's best used for disposable things, so i don't expect to see something like that.
NuclearArbitor 3 years ago
Really?
Swedish Tank Drifting: watch?v=P5aWAW2hea4
Scurck 2 years ago
well dam, i guess they can drift on snow and ice and i suppose it would depend on the type of sand. if it was loose enough it could. in general that they don't though
NuclearArbitor 2 years ago
and it would depend on the speed they're going. the ripsaw would drift much better on the same conditions.
NuclearArbitor 2 years ago
yeah i know, a drifting tank would need to be going at like 300 miles an hour and need a very skilled driver
taurus494 2 years ago
M1-A goes fast enough to catch air.
FogerRox 2 years ago
@FogerRox My father drove M1A1/2's for 10 years, hes told me that the instructors tell you explicitly not to take on a turn at top speed, as for two problems, 1) You'll put far too much strain on the axles and road wheels. 2) You'll most like TEAR THE OPPOSING TRACK OFF. therefore a tank drifting is as intelligent as flying a plane through a wall.
Direwolf13PS3 1 year ago
@taurus494
Your years of experience tell you this? Look up any video of a T-80U on a proving ground. Modern tanks are as fast as highway cars, and they drift, and they'll get air. The Abrams is a 1500HP gas turbine (basically a jet engine) pushing around 70 tons like it was styrofoam. You need to stop watching so many movies.
As for Metalstorm, the machine gun shut a lot of people up in 1914. This will do the same.
SigmaSixxx 1 year ago
@taurus494 DAMN you little children need to get from behind the monitor and see the REAL damn world.
GrigoriZhukov 9 months ago
look for russian TOS-1
ImJustSkyo 2 years ago
The Abrams catches air over a berm. In fact I know a certain Gunny who claims he can jump his M1, and shoot in mid air, and hit his target 3000 ft away.
FogerRox 2 years ago
i very much doubt that, MBT's go at like 30-40 tops
taurus494 2 years ago
Puh-lease....You mean in WW2, the Medium tank, Sherman did 36mph, the M-1 can do 60 mph as per wiki.
wiki/M1_Abrams
FogerRox 2 years ago 2
you forget that the abrams is a piece of bullshit
taurus494 2 years ago
and actually youve obviously made it up becuase on wikipedia it actually says it has a speed of 45 mph
taurus494 2 years ago
@taurus494 yeah if it shit junk from russia.
GrigoriZhukov 9 months ago
@FogerRox Meters. It's 3000 meters. A 3000 foot shot in an Abrams is gravy.
Halo4Lyf 1 year ago
@FogerRox it's possible...
GrigoriZhukov 9 months ago
@NuclearArbitor There's a vid here of a panther or leopard tank drifting on mud.. the sand bit is probably alittle extreme though for a 65 ton MBT...
pyrewyrm 1 year ago
@pyrewyrm not really, though asphalt does tear up the track pads like a mother.
GrigoriZhukov 9 months ago
@NuclearArbitor Shows what you know...they do so, as does the M113 (barely older than me) But obviously when I was sitting there watching that M1 and later an M1A1 and later STILL an M1A2(block 20) I was seeing a hologram AND I damn sure didn't see that M113A3 drifting...because I was too busy driving the fucking thing. While we are at it nimrod...I know for a fact that an M35As WITH a water buffalo on the back can drift also...I don't recommend it as your undies tend to bunch afterward.
GrigoriZhukov 9 months ago
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your a fuckin homo you ruined my day you pole smokin faggot
voklskier344 3 years ago
it looks like an computer animation... but when it´s real: I WANT ONE!
GtaRockt 3 years ago 2
it is an computer animation dude xD but soon it will be real i think ^^
Kingjeffkoch 3 years ago
me too
venturafor2012 3 years ago
abrams body, new turret, when does my bettalion get one
ted1165 3 years ago
If you were in any form of one you'd know its spelled battalion bud.
SYLACE2 3 years ago 3
Some people, even soldiers, just suck at spelling. One of my friends is in the Marines, and he's terrible at writing xD
bloodwolf117 2 years ago
@SYLACE2 No it's spelt "Bn" sheesh...
GrigoriZhukov 9 months ago
but yeah if firing a few hundred 105mm shells in a second doesent knock it over i doubt drift would do anything bad.....at least not to the tank
althalus12 3 years ago
I believe one of the characters said "what was that last bang" when a kiloton range nuclear explosion went off. The firing mechanism was describes as concussion inducing.
althalus12 3 years ago
Check out the drifting video of an APC.
rogertheseal 3 years ago
how long is it gone 2 reload =)
bohater0 3 years ago
i dont now may take a long time to reload 1 of these things wa does the back open up or u got to put them in the front
tonydeadlock 3 years ago
You remove the entire gun assembly and replace it with another
althalus12 3 years ago
The tanks of the future.
swesomeguy 3 years ago
holy crap that was awsome
liidan15 3 years ago
For those of you commenting about the uslessness of tank mounted metalstorm systems this system is used in a fiction book by John Ringo. It is designed to destroy heavily armored air unites i.e. spaceships
althalus12 4 years ago 3
ufos more like it lol
Slayer166 3 years ago
@althalus12 Didn't they also use a battalion of 'em as indirect fire support weapons at some point in Hell's Faire?
Halo4Lyf 1 year ago
Which book is this from?
RenovatedLocksmith 4 years ago
Metal Storm weapons mounted on the chassis of an M1A1 Abrams tank are featured in When the Devil Dances and Hell's Faire books by John Ringo.
FogerRox 4 years ago
Ah. Thanks for clearing that up. I think that would've been useful to have when the Germans were combating the... what are they called again?
RenovatedLocksmith 4 years ago
Posleen.
althalus12 4 years ago
Ah, yes, thank you. I haven't read the book in a while, I've been working on getting Vorpal Blade and Manxome Foe.
RenovatedLocksmith 4 years ago
Oh and the very fact that it turns side ways to its most vulnerable attitude (in respect to recoil as displayed) is boviously another aesthetic and would have nothing to do with how it would potentially operate in the field.
P.S. The idea of using multitudes of drone helicopters would create a phenominal requirement for computing power, in addition to maintenance and deployment. The tank would be a cheap way out and add the benefit of local human judgement.
visualtonic 4 years ago
You freakin dingleberries. Surely the tank commander (lets assume there is one for hypothetical reasons) would consider the need for holding rounds, or the need for releasing them (duh). The need to let off so many rounds at once could be explained as simply as bunker busting. In addition there could be a mix of rounds contained in the barrel to address the theoretical construction of the target as gathered from intelligence. Its a nice animation made to look good for the sake of it.
visualtonic 4 years ago
im just curious, what happens when an EMP goes off?
Abercr0mbie4life 4 years ago
u need a nuke to make an emp
DEATHCLAWSLAYER 4 years ago
Where the hell did you learn that?
You don't need a nuke, that's just the most famous way.
In fact, they have EMP bombs, that's all it does, is release EMP. Won't do anything to anyone standing five feet away from it, but anything electronic will fry within several miles.
texdav 4 years ago
true ,just resrched it ferther, NNEMP could disable a metalstorm but if combined with a ADWS(area denial weopon system,also metal storm) the missles or even low powered nukes wouldn't be able to get close enoth
DEATHCLAWSLAYER 4 years ago
A fair sized EMP bomb detonated at an alititude of about 300 miles AGL could disable most of the electronics in North America. They WOULD be able to get close enough. And a nuke going at sufficient speed would get through before the Metal Storm could locate, target, and kill it.
texdav 4 years ago
fair enough, but ADWS's shoot heli out of the sky by shooting the roters because the hull is too slow, plus the targeting system and firing system where partly desighed to kill nukes
DEATHCLAWSLAYER 4 years ago
Where did I say anything about a helicopter? Helicopters can't go that high anyway. It would be a rocket, and Metal Storm can't reach up 300 miles anyway.
texdav 4 years ago
it an exaple of it tageting power thats all
DEATHCLAWSLAYER 4 years ago
If the electronics are inside the turret they have been hardened against emp. While in no way making them immune to emp it means NNEMP would have to get pretty close to the target.
althalus12 4 years ago
EMP stands for Electro-Magnetic Pulse. EMP causes electronic devices from cars to wristwatches to fry. One of the very, very few exceptions to this is if all it is is a battery and a switch.
There are ways to shield, or harden, electronics against EMP. This is used in airplanes, military, and government Devices.
texdav 4 years ago
Yeah it'd be like taking the main gun from an abrams, and putting... I dunno, was it 100? (I don't remember the numbers from the books.) and firing them all within about 2 seconds of each other. Basically it's, like, pointless in today's battleground.
IAmSquiggo 4 years ago
You're an idiot.
EnigmaHood 2 years ago
what about a massive artillery battery with this, i own stock in metal storm, and their system works by stacking rounds, so in that tank u could hold 50-100 or more 155mm shells , the tank would have to probably be grounded for recoil. Not sure if its necessary, 500 little drone choppers with metal storm 3gl's would probably do more good in todays war
Lpriimo6 4 years ago
no doubt that it has a future, but in what capacity? i dont think it would be wise to blow off all your ammo in a few seconds in a tank. Maybe hook it up to some sort of battle wagon/truck filled with several hundred or thousand rounds
willypete2171 4 years ago
Artillery guns would probably be the best way to go. MetalStorm would not work in tanks or small arms. Normally with artillery, they have a supply train for ammunition and fuel, which would help.
On the note of infantry weapons, having all the rounds stacked in the barrel would cause a huge amount of weight towards that one end. And to reload would require either filling up the barrel with rounds, incredibly dangerous. Or replacing the barrel alltogether.
texdav 4 years ago
true but the bullets are cassless, the cases make up most of the weight.
reloading it would be the same as normal shells but just longer (due to no moving parts the tubes dont get as hot as convetional weopons
DEATHCLAWSLAYER 4 years ago
They are used as AAA. Just really, really heavily armoured AAA.
althalus12 4 years ago
anti-aircraft-? 3 a's?
robduude 3 years ago
anti aircraft artillery
BlackOps05 3 years ago
anti-everything :-P
Murtage33e 3 years ago
not far from the truth
BlackOps05 3 years ago
If you must replace the barrel to reload, then you would need to carry many, many barrels, which would be much, much heavier than simple magazines, and with less rounds in the barrel.
Basically, MetalStorm is good for anti-aircraft/anti-artillery, actually on aircraft, for area denial, and as actual artillery.
texdav 4 years ago
Metal Storm is a very good concept...I like the concept of software integration and M.S. weapons on airraft... imagine flying over @ 600miles/hour, and implementin/utilizing 400 downward (90 degrees relative to the wing)pointing barrels with 10 rds of lets say 12.7X101mm (ok, forgive my cartridge designation, I am fond of Russian/ Serbian .50 caliber, the US is 12.7X99mm)explosive ammo, and firing all that within 1.5 to 2 seconds as u r flyin right above such a target
Kamenolom 4 years ago
this, I think, would suck, because you have one shot with it and then you have to bug out. Good luck doing said maneuver if you don't have any other weapon to suppress the enemy with during retreat.
Although, it would be great in combined arms supported by infantry and real tanks. Only the big armies have that kind of training, though.
luckyhat4 4 years ago
Relax buddy...you have at least 8 to 10 rds per barrel times the 6 barrels...which is roughly 60 125mm or 155mm rounds/shells
Kamenolom 4 years ago
well a tank doing a handbrake turn
army764 4 years ago
ugly as hell
metalmoep 4 years ago
in the battlefield looks has nothing to do with win or lose. MetalStorm has been around for a while now just caught the eye of military in the past few years. First working MetalStorm was the multi-ammo pistol which carrys ammo of many types, .22 to 45. It is electronic fire which the ammos are stacked on top of each other.
mammoth321 4 years ago
Looks like the only way to reload that tank is with a crane (good luck with that on a battlefield)
vinze2121 4 years ago
Read the John Ringo series "Posleen". "A Hymn before battle" & "Gust Front". Some good sci fi.
FogerRox 4 years ago
My bad - it mentioned Metal Storm so I assumed it was being designed or something. It's still a very cool idea.
vinze2121 4 years ago
doing what shoot dingo?
yk1012 4 years ago
you americans can thank australia for the weapon now as it has just been put into use for the first time in a combat situation with the australian sas and it KICKED ARSE
jusfuknwidya 5 years ago