It would help if you're going to argue against the Bible from the Bible that you'd be able to acturately represent what it says. That being stated, I wouldn't attempt to respond to the post, which is so full of inaccuracy that I would even know where to begin. Your interpretations are just not in the scriptures, sorry to tell you.
@RickRLandon If you are looking for specific examples of Yahweh's absurd commands, then try Numbers 31: 16-18 where it claims god commanded the complete genocide of the Midianites with the added bonus of keeping their virgin daughters "for themselves." If I remember correctly, the first chapter of Joshua outlines the genocidal commandment in full.
Blood Sacrifice: God apparently does not have the capacity to frankly forgive, instead, he demands blood sacrifice. See Hebrews 9:22
After all that ... God still solves his problems by killing people (babies included). He still demands blood sacrifice. He still inflicts his "justice" on the innocent for the crimes of the guilty. Gods punishment can include rape and cannibalism.
All that sophisticated waffle is being mapped onto the bronze age monster in the bible?
All that wordy, philosophy ... the god in the bible is making it up as he goes along. Might makes right or else.
@Danmill23 Please see the responses above. Your not interpreting the text we have properly. On other replies I note that if atheism were true, the atheist would be in no position to call anything "evil" or refer to any being as a monster. Ultimately its atheism that makes the "will to power" the end game. This is just not in the bible.
@RickRLandon "... not interpreting the text ... properly ..." - Have you read the bible? (jk)
Ezekiel 5?
or
Jeremiah 19?
or
Deuteronomy 28?
or
Leviticus 26?
My above comment is based of these (types) of chapters. Perhaps remind youself of each.
The character of god is monstorous, childishly self absorbed, vicious, murderous, trecherous ... You read the chapters (and those around them). This is not an unconsidered opinion. This is not a downloaded opinion. This is what the text says.
@Danmill23 Yes, I have read the bible CAREFULLY in english, in greek, in hebrew, in latin, in syriac, coptic, french, german, and spainish. Again, you've made an interpretation based on a superfical reading on what is most probably a dated and idiosyncratic english translation. Probably with no attempt to understand the cultural context, historical background and the various other factors that are necessary to arrive at a proper understanding of the author's intention.
@RickRLandon Ok. I accept that. You do realize that in those chapters I quote god causes people to eat their children as a punishment. He casues, makes, punishes, curses people to eat their children. Eat their children.
Now my first point is that is clearly what it says(means). It says it four times in four different books. I hear you on the different cultural context etc. But "eating your children" does not go away that easily.
Perhaps you could explain it to me. Start with Deut 28.
@Danmill23 I'd very much like to discuss the proper way to deal with these texts, but with like 500 characters or so imposed here as a response limit, its virtually impossible. Here's the approach, in general: to under Dt 28 need to under Dt as a whole. To understand Dt, need to understand its context in the Torah -- the first 5 books of the OT.
If you'd like to discuss futher send me some direct contact information.
very well done, the most interesting thing I have seen on you-tube. I can't understand why there are only 77 other views. I am new to philosophy and learned much by watching this. Keep up the good work. (no pun intended)
It would help if you're going to argue against the Bible from the Bible that you'd be able to acturately represent what it says. That being stated, I wouldn't attempt to respond to the post, which is so full of inaccuracy that I would even know where to begin. Your interpretations are just not in the scriptures, sorry to tell you.
RickRLandon 10 months ago
@RickRLandon If you are looking for specific examples of Yahweh's absurd commands, then try Numbers 31: 16-18 where it claims god commanded the complete genocide of the Midianites with the added bonus of keeping their virgin daughters "for themselves." If I remember correctly, the first chapter of Joshua outlines the genocidal commandment in full.
Blood Sacrifice: God apparently does not have the capacity to frankly forgive, instead, he demands blood sacrifice. See Hebrews 9:22
Tibberclaw 8 months ago
After all that ... God still solves his problems by killing people (babies included). He still demands blood sacrifice. He still inflicts his "justice" on the innocent for the crimes of the guilty. Gods punishment can include rape and cannibalism.
All that sophisticated waffle is being mapped onto the bronze age monster in the bible?
All that wordy, philosophy ... the god in the bible is making it up as he goes along. Might makes right or else.
Danmill23 11 months ago
@Danmill23
The god gets angry.
The god changes his mind.
The god get convinced to change his mind by mortals.
The god regrets.
old covenet vs new covenent.
Adam, eve, cain, able and the incest problem. (the flexible moral absoluteness of incest)
This collection of attributes hardly inspires me to accept your arguments about the internal correctness on the divine nature.
The god character in the bible is just making it up as he goes along.
or his divine radar is chaos.
Danmill23 11 months ago
@Danmill23 Please see the responses above. Your not interpreting the text we have properly. On other replies I note that if atheism were true, the atheist would be in no position to call anything "evil" or refer to any being as a monster. Ultimately its atheism that makes the "will to power" the end game. This is just not in the bible.
RickRLandon 7 months ago
@RickRLandon "... not interpreting the text ... properly ..." - Have you read the bible? (jk)
Ezekiel 5?
or
Jeremiah 19?
or
Deuteronomy 28?
or
Leviticus 26?
My above comment is based of these (types) of chapters. Perhaps remind youself of each.
The character of god is monstorous, childishly self absorbed, vicious, murderous, trecherous ... You read the chapters (and those around them). This is not an unconsidered opinion. This is not a downloaded opinion. This is what the text says.
Danmill23 7 months ago
@Danmill23 Yes, I have read the bible CAREFULLY in english, in greek, in hebrew, in latin, in syriac, coptic, french, german, and spainish. Again, you've made an interpretation based on a superfical reading on what is most probably a dated and idiosyncratic english translation. Probably with no attempt to understand the cultural context, historical background and the various other factors that are necessary to arrive at a proper understanding of the author's intention.
RickRLandon 7 months ago
@RickRLandon Ok. I accept that. You do realize that in those chapters I quote god causes people to eat their children as a punishment. He casues, makes, punishes, curses people to eat their children. Eat their children.
Now my first point is that is clearly what it says(means). It says it four times in four different books. I hear you on the different cultural context etc. But "eating your children" does not go away that easily.
Perhaps you could explain it to me. Start with Deut 28.
Danmill23 7 months ago
@Danmill23 I'd very much like to discuss the proper way to deal with these texts, but with like 500 characters or so imposed here as a response limit, its virtually impossible. Here's the approach, in general: to under Dt 28 need to under Dt as a whole. To understand Dt, need to understand its context in the Torah -- the first 5 books of the OT.
If you'd like to discuss futher send me some direct contact information.
RickRLandon 7 months ago
@RickRLandon Can you send me a PM here on YT? Let's begin there? ok?
Danmill23 7 months ago
very well done, the most interesting thing I have seen on you-tube. I can't understand why there are only 77 other views. I am new to philosophy and learned much by watching this. Keep up the good work. (no pun intended)
chelatediron 11 months ago
@chelatediron thanks please keep an eye open for more posts, I hope to upload a presentation on
"Truth" is the next few days.
RickRLandon 11 months ago